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Persephonia's avatar

Why this is being pushed anyways is very simple:

If Pfizer can get to the youngest children and get this vax on the childhood vaccination list they are FOREVER protected against any future liability from ANY age group.

They will be able to push this garbage onto children without ever worrying that they can be held accountable for long term (or any) detrimental effects.

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CK's avatar

Yep exactly I just hopped on here to say this. If they can get onto the childhood vaccine schedule they won’t be held liable once their EUA protection runs out. It’s disgusting and criminal that anyone in positions of authority is going along with this.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

But it neeeds full approval, right? I might edit my article and mention it since my articles often get some traction from social networks.

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Persephonia's avatar

I would think that it would need 'full approval' - but keep in mind that Cormirnaty (Pfizer's brand name product - not actually available in the US as far as I know) has already been granted 'full approval' so I think that may be moot.

My suspicion is that the plan has always been to have the FDA grant the 'full approval' to Cormirnaty (done but not available yet) and then push hard to get the Pfizer- BioNTech on the childhood vaccine schedule - then once full enduring liability protection is assured they bring their brand name to the market full force.

Just a continuance of the slight of hand maneuvers we have seen to date.

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CK's avatar

Yes I agree. Technically they already have the approval in Comirnity, once they get the trials for kids complete they will get it on the childhood schedule, which gives it liability protection, then the EUA will go away and it will be our kids that suffer the health consequences for their entire lives.

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Mark Luersen's avatar

Technically, there would be no liability shields if fraud was discovered.

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Hawks Perch's avatar

"...if fraud was discovered" The fraud and malfeasance was already uncovered in early trial data, and hence why [they] are working eight days a week to squash the reveal of their documentation for 75 years. This is genocide.

WH, CDC, NIH, Pfizer and others all have no vax mandate - as proven by Chief Mafioso Bourla himself, due to his rejection by Israel to visit because he was unvaxxed. Let that sink in.

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Mark Luersen's avatar

It's only a matter of time until this makes it into the courts. Hopefully sooner than later.

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Hawks Perch's avatar

Honest, untainted, uncontrolled courts are hard to come by in the present era. Especially when DoJ et.al. are corrupt and compromised. Just look to the ongoing charade of justice with Monstersanto and the thousands of lymphoma/cancer claims being thwarted (I've experienced this personally)....

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Richard A's avatar

The law is VERY "elastic" and when you have the amounts of money the pharmaceutical industry has You can PURCHASE "justice" . At the very LEAST you can put off financial penalties for YEARS. The political protection provided by bought politicians make criminal penalties very remote EVER

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YYR's avatar

Worse, these shots create customers for life, so the younger the victim, the more potential future revenue stream.

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Persephonia's avatar

They may not have factored in the ADE effects of killing off many of these life long customers?

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Hawks Perch's avatar

I will let Dr. Henry Kissinger explain: (although the 'debunkers' have tried to quash this)

"Once the herd accepts mandatory forcible vaccination, it's game over! They will accept anything –– forcible blood or organ donation –– for the 'greater good.' We can genetically modify children and sterilize them –– for the 'greater good.'

Control sheep minds and you control the herd. Vaccine makers stand to make billions, and many of you in this room today are investors. It's a big win-win! We thin out the herd and the herd pays us for providing extermination services."

Comments made during a speech to the World Health Organization Council on Eugenics on February 25, 2009.

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Persephonia's avatar

Brutal. Do you have a source for this?

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JustANobody's avatar

Look at above source listed.. WHO on Eugenics Feb 25 2009. I believe its still searchable.

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CK's avatar

They may not have but if the ones that survive are permanently disabled they still will need to be on medication for the rest of their lives.

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JJ's avatar

This gig will be cancelled before that can happen so they need to jab as many arms now while they have willing or coerced participants. If everyone dies in 10 years they will be retired in the Bahamas with not a care in the world.

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Persephonia's avatar

'If everyone dies in ten years' - exactly how are they retiring? Food does grow on trees but it certainly doesn't miraculously just show up in your refrigerator. All that we take for granted in our society requires people - specifically 'blue collar' workers, farmers etc to produce. Technology is not 'stand alone' - computerized systems can be great, until they are not and then you need the trades.

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CK's avatar

Yes! I have said this exact statement to my husband. It’s sickening and it’s already happening with the current childhood vaccine schedule. So I am nervous what this shot will do to their health.

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Melissa D's avatar

Have you seen Dr. Paul Thomas’s latest study? Reaffirms what I already knew—so glad I abstained from injecting any of this garbage into my kids, who are now healthy and happy teens. Much to the chagrin and chiding of “well-meaning” family members, I stuck to my guns.

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CK's avatar

Yes! Unfortunately, I was bullied into vaccines by my pediatrician during PP depression but I’m glad I was informed of the dangers before this garbage was rolled out. This is the study that the CDC should have been conducting all these years instead of promoting their vaccine schedule and continuously adding to it with no independent safety studies. Meanwhile, Dr. Thomas has been defending his medical license ever since. It’s absolutely maddening!

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Whole bunch of gullible true believers and also skeptical indie journos that should have known better are heading directly into a nightmare of cognitive dissonance.

They got duped. Which would be okay at first. But at some point, folks are aware and just lying to themselves.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

The issue is that now there will be repercussions, investigations, and hopefully punishments. So the herd of vaccine promoters is becoming aware that they are actually in danger, and are desperate to either double down on lies, or find some new distractions (Russia, climate)

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Thomas's avatar

Worse still, it will be a short life.

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Hélène de F's avatar

Exactly what I have read. 😡

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Jestre's avatar

They do nothing in adults either. Or worse than nothing.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

At least they produce fake antibodies in adults

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Persephonia's avatar

Don't they also provide ADE as a bonus? Credit where credit is due after all.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am very skeptical about the health of the vaccinated going forward.

But I am also very concerned even about the "unvaccinated" and will write about it too.

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Persephonia's avatar

Are you familiar with Dr. Vanden Bossche? They have done everything to discredit him also but just look at his CV to know that their claims of him being a hack are not true. Anyways, he suggests the biggest danger at this point for the unvaccinated is two fold: first is mental health issues due to exclusion from society or we may end up in camps or worse; second is that through continued mass vaccination evolutionary pressure drives the virus to mutate in a more pathogenic direction that evades vaccines. While this would potentially be deadly for the vaccinated, in this case depending on the severity even the unvaccinated would be at risk if the mutation was pathogenic enough that our intact innate immune system could not fight it off.

This is all speculation of course - but he and many of the top immunologists in the world are very concerned about the likelihood of this development.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Here's the thing. Geert is an amazing person. I love him. But he makes predictions for the future and the future is notoriously hard to predict.

I keep watching out for people getting reinfected. I purposely search reddit, twitter for personal stories and news articles.

It does appear that while the vaccinated are at particular risk of reinfections, some vaccine-free persons get reinfected also. It is possible that with each infection, Covid takes us down a notch.

At this point two things are becoming prominent

1) The vaccinated will NEVER become "naturally immune" and thus there will NOT be "herd immunity" and Covid will never go away

2) The concept of "natural immunity" for the vaccine-free being protective forever, is unproven and while I am hopeful, I also must be skeptical. I am okay so far but not 100% certain of the future.

Still, I would not trade my natural immunity for the vax, of course, but what I am saying is that our Covid pandemic is just getting started.

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Em's Rule's avatar

Correct. I am vaccine free and got Covid in October 2020. Ten days of exhaustion! I just got over 4 weeks of Covid this week (still tired) It was NOT mild and was serious! I am in excellent health and was shocked to be knocked flat by another round with Covid. Here's what I wrote about it. https://emsrul.substack.com/p/on-the-brink-with-covid

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Persephonia's avatar

You are correct that the future is hard to predict - I would say near impossible. Perhaps the truth is that covid going forward is endemic. Just like the flu and common cold (also coronavirus) we will forever more be getting it. I never believed they could eradicate covid in the first place - so I guess the move to thought that this would go from pandemic to endemic was an easy one for me.

Those that damaged their immune systems with the vax will be worse off, those with stronger immune systems will be better off, and as you age or don't take care of your body (get fat, eat poorly, etc) your chances of bad outcome increase - just like with colds and flu.

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Richard A's avatar

And Dr. Bossche has many examples of this exact thing happening- one example is Meriks disease. Check my spelling though

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Persephonia's avatar

Marek's I believe, although this example is confusing for many readers because the ADE results in a near if not 100% mortality amongst the unvaccinated. The ADE we will see with these vaccines will affect the vaccinated - to what extent is speculation - let's hope it is not 100%

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DWB's avatar

At this point, even if the unvaccinated are untouched, if huge numbers of vaccinated people die or become disabled, civilization ends for everyone. I think the number is around 20%.

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Persephonia's avatar

Am I understanding correctly that if we have 20% of the population die or become disabled civilization ends for everyone? Not doubting you but curious where this figure originates.

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Richard A's avatar

Covid was all ever ONLY about power. It was never about our health- because it was never a threat in the first place, research shows between 65-80 percent of the deaths could have been avoided by "early treatment" unlike EVERY other illness, where you treat ASAP to AVOID further progression, they tell you to go home and only get treated when you can no longer breathe

There ONLY focus was/is on "vaccines" and now the truth of THAT is coming out and can no longer be denied, even the hypnotized will not be able to deny it much longer

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Allen's avatar

Vaccines are barbaric- all of them.

There has never been a product of any kind so filled with historical misinformation, purposeful deception and outright fraud. The belief that injecting synthetic chemicals made by habitually criminal companies who profit from perpetual disease somehow produces health is not only ridiculous and unproven— it is a foundational teaching of a dangerous religious cult that western medicine has become.

From their inception to today's mRNA monstrosities vaccines have done nothing but cause massive and systemic harm to the human biological system.

Furthermore the biggest fraud in history might be the medical industrial complex itself. For the past 100 years and more they've been claiming credit for things that builders, sewerage workers, water treatment plants, gutter designers, roofers, fridge inventors, electricians etc have created.

Myocarditis (and Pericarditis) are not the only side effects caused by these particular shots, and even older people have been dying from heart conditions that suddenly appeared post-injection. Seniors and those with underlying health conditions are at particular risk from ADE, the destruction of their already weak immune systems. There has been a startling rise in aggressive cancers, for example, in the wake of these shots.

To suggest that these shots can be beneficial to certain groups of people is wrong and misleading. They are dangerous for all people.

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MLR's avatar

Where are the pediatricians and pediatric associations denouncing covid immunizations for children with no co-morbidities ?!

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The Beach Is My Bliss's avatar

I can think of nothing more insane than people adamantly supporting the continued jabbing of human beings, all while not being the least bit interested in discussing what the Chinese and American governments unleashed upon the world.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I can think of no innocent explanation for what's going on. And it's only going to get worse. They didn't steal the election for Joe Biden just to have him wander about in urine-soaked trousers stammering inanities to an until-recently obsequious press corps. Strap yourselves in, the show's just getting started.

Pray, prepare, and when the time comes help all who need it.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

sad, and mean, but true

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Martin's avatar

I live in NSW Australia. The msm here is a bald faced propaganda machine. I have not watched TV for 20 years, as it is extremely bad for my stress levels, the most I can manage is a cursory flick through msm websites. I have found that our national broadcaster (ABC) is by far the most treasonous in its unashamed championing of the vaccines and also its relentless "hit pieces" on those who oppose the mandates.

The divisions in our society are deep. Distrust is often expressed overtly. I have two brothers who refuse to speak to me, which I relate to the Orwellian concepts of "right think" and "crimestop". In this environment it is difficult to discuss vaccines with other adults who are on the other side of the divide.

However, as I have two kids at primary school, I have been in touch with their teachers and principal since early November (when the FDA approved the jab for 5-12 year olds}. I've expressed my concerns and asked that such concerns be raised at staff meetings with reference to covid policy. And if more parents with similar concerns take whatever simple communicative actions they can, weight of numbers will begin to tell.

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Darby Shaw's avatar

I really think the plan is eventually to add the Covid vaccine to the recommended mandatory vaccine schedule for all children. Beyond the obvious - more SALES for Pfizer -- expanding to this younger age group will eliminate the control group once the mandates are in place. Otherwise, if they make 5-year-olds the cutoff, researchers will be able to compare health outcomes in 5-year-old vaxxed vs. 4-year-old unvaxxed. Pfizer and the CDC don't ever want ANYBODY to be able to make that comparison.

This is all I can think of.

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Hawks Perch's avatar

It's about sterilization and population reduction.

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Castigator's avatar

Try the Mark of the Beast for size, from cradle to grave. The journey may be swift.

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Hidden Markov Respecter's avatar

The Feds are going to regret this. In their urgency to shoehorn every single beating heart into their vaxxplan before the virus simply departs, just so they could convincingly say at political rallies and in fundraisers that all were "protected" by their benevolence, they forgot to ask in a serious way: "Is it safe?" If the long-term fallout is fundamentally UNsafe then pitchforks and torches will be the least of their worries.

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shasta's avatar

I have witnessed many kids with the disease from 0yo to 13yo. It is a stupid illness for them. 2 hours of symptoms at the most!!! At the most!!!!!

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Daniel's avatar

It is pure nonsense to vaccinate children against covid, but parents easily go along with the fear and act with a protective reflex for their offspring. You can't just talk the fearful out of it. I have tried but they regard you as someone with conspiracy beliefs and bad intentions. The best thing is to send them an article from Reuters about the decision in Sweden not to vaccinate children under twelve.

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Persephonia's avatar

Before even broaching the topic of child vaccination ask them if they have heard that there is now a demand in the dating market for 'unvaccinated' mates (This is apparently a growing area now) - I have come a cross some articles saying this. Apparently, men who are interested in having a family are looking to reduce the potential of selecting a lifelong partner who may end up being infertile. This of course is a real concern if there are any fertility issues going forward (as these would most likely effect women more than men).

Then ask them how it is they know there are no long term fertility issues when this has not been studied.

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Persephonia's avatar

Then ask them if perhaps Swedish scientists know something that ours don't.........

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Jeff's avatar

Does anybody still in doubt that the reasons are:

1 Depop mostly via reduction in a birth rate;

2. Eliminate the control vax-free cohort.

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Ira Leifer's avatar

I will start with the greed of the pusher - start addiction early and pHarma gets a lifetime customer (of boosters). But I think Persephonia's comment - getting the liability of the childhood vaccine schedule - is the spot on (particularly given FDA financial conflicts of interest).

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Richard A's avatar

If you read "the REAL Anthony Fauci" by RFK Jr. All your questions will be answered. Fauci has done the same things over and over again since he gained control about 30 years ago over ostensibly ONE agency, but he, and his "people" have vastly more power than just over ONE agency. You will learn that Fauci is a shill for the pharmaceutical industry. And will NEVER use cheap effective drugs, if he can push untried, dangerous EXPENSIVE drugs instead

You will learn of the vast amounts of money he has made in the public/private sector and the fact that NOW public/,private partnerships NOW are limited to only $150,000 a year per drug, per person. It used to be unlimited. You will learn of the potential cheap effective (tetracycline among them) that showed promise in treating AIDS and his refusal to use them or allow a CENT to be used for research on them. Instead he was able to make AZT the only drug used. This is the exact format he used with covid,not allowing HCQ or IVM or ANY cheap, effective drug.instead government is only allowed to use Redisivor (which nurses nicknamed "run- death is near" because of its deadliness) You will learn of the catastrophe that is Fauci in the entire government medical research system and the over 6 billion he hands out yearly and his power and influence gained by this money. You will learn a LOT,

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Lysias's avatar

Fauci is 81 years old. What need does he have for more money?

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Hawks Perch's avatar

One only need look at the entire charade through the lens of EUGENICS to see what is really going on here.

All of this nightmare has it's roots in the maniacal quest for societal control and monetary gain without regard to consequences nor carnage inflicted. But that too serves their aspirations. (the Hegelian problem/reaction/solution play).

Thanks in large part to over 100 years Rockefeller funded pseudo-science, designed precisely to create an never-ending revenue stream from an ocean of unhealthy dependent dupes. This crime is long in the making and has served the Wall St. crowd and their political minions exceptionally well.

See these two superb documentaries on how/why Big Oil diverged to create Big Pharma. Go straight to Part 2 (Why...) for the lowdown on highbrow population reduction.

https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/

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JustANobody's avatar

I just became the one in a thousand. It was long but well worth it to understand how it all ties together. Thank you for posting this. Everyone should watch in its entirety!!!!

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zuFpM5*M's avatar

The moderna 'spikevax' approval press release also included the language about how while the full approval and EUA product are physically the same they are legally separate. The FDA is in collusion with the drug companies to protect the drug companies from liability for damages that both parties know the product is doing by essentially creating a new approved-not approved framework that is no where found in law. It is an usurpation of congressional authority.

It is also clear that this was cooked up with the approval and cooperation of the White House. How can we tell? The administration was very keen to vaccinate the military, and there is a longstanding court precedent that military cannot be compelled to take EUA vaccines set during controversy over the anthrax vaccines. So Biden needed 'full approval' to steamroll the military and yet the drug companies needed EUA to protect their loot. The FDA obligingly created this new framework. I doubt it will stand up to judicial scrutiny, but it takes time and effort to get that sort of question before a judge.

Now the key to long term profit is the childhood vaccine schedule along with annual boosters for adults. For that, it is even better if the vaccine doesn't work well in children because then the CDC will just add more shots of it to the schedule. So I heard RFK, Jr. say that the childhood vaccine schedule unlocks the full liability protection as well so that is the other motivation to get the covid vaccines on it. At this point, I simply assume that, regardless of any data or side effects, whatever result is most profitable for pharma will emerge gradually from the regulatory bodies.

I sincerely hope that we can make more progress on stopping this soon. My wife is telling me how her co-workers are agonizing but leaning towards getting the vaccine for their children due to state threats to exclude them from education and their own irrational fear of covid in children. It doesn't matter what she says to them about it. They won't even believe that covid mortality in children is near zero. We have to stop the people at the top soon.

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