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el gato malo's avatar

apple is getting absolutely dragged on twitter today because, wait for it, they turned off a set of key collaboration tools used by protesters in china ahead of the protests (that included iphone factories) because the government asked them to.

they are not used to people getting to hear about things like this.

old twitter helped them suppress it.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1597286986674769920?s=20&t=kgr-3gGM3BROd5clYhTLag

i suspect they are bristling in response.

i'd be surprised to see them do it. they are already in trouble this Q and banning twitter would cause significant defections.

and you can just use it as a web ap from your phone anyway. it's not like parler where they needed to kill a growing user base.

and musk will get a sideload out.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

But in any case the plot thickens!!!

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el gato malo's avatar

<insert cat eating popcorn meme>

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Peter Robinson: All right, so briefly, what would you say to someone who's still... Honestly, there may be viewers who won't take it from Anthony Fauci, but might take it from Jay Bhattacharya. What would you say to someone who still hasn't gotten vaccinated?

Jay Bhattacharya: I mean, you think that for someone who's older, especially, the vaccine is incredibly important. COVID is very deadly disease as we talked about for people who's older. And the vaccine, while we haven't... It's only been in human use for 10 months, right? So we don't know all of the side effects, but we've seen enough to know it's pretty safe.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Remember something: old people are NOT our future, they will NOT be giving births to babies, building homes, trains, bridges etc -- and they are also much more likely to get sick from Covid.

I advice all people of all ages, including my relatives, to NOT take Covid vax.

But I also recognize that "they vaccinated old people" is not nearly as momentous of a crime as "they vaccinated young people"

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Duchess's avatar

Igor, I am an old people. Old people have value...in my school, granparents are taking care of the kids, teaching and passing down wisdom...don't give them short shrift...please. EVERY life has value. Let's not go down the utilitarian pathway...that leads to murdering everyone no longer contributing to society.

Can't have kids - kill you. Not being productive/disabled/handicapped/mentally ill - Kill them.

This is what the Nazi's did FIRST.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am also "old" -- in the sense that I am done having kids. I am 51. We definitely have value. But vaxing young people was such an unspeakable crime, beyond anything else.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

This feels like digging through a pile of horseshit to find a pony.

"He's only killing the olds, so..."

The hospital protocols themselves are unimaginably cruel deaths for the elderly, too.

Def. agree that killing the kids is on a whole other level, as is jabbing pregnant women.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Exactly, jabbing the kids is a crime on another level!

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Duchess's avatar

Women who got jabbed deep down know it is not right...they can't smoke, drink or eat fish for god's sake...but an experimental jab?Remember the whole Zika thing? It was because they got a bad DPT shot. Well known to anyone who cared to look into it.

And what about their sperm donors? We don't even know how much THAT has to do with it......so maybe this group not so smart? So shall we include the elderly the mentally ill the handicapped and those with an IQ lower than 70 is the not so bad category if they die?

I am really afraid for the jabbed youg women (and men/young men) who are NOT pregnant cause they are not married or haven't found the one......these young people... ..may not be able to EVER have a kid...THAT is MY WHOLE OTHER LEVEL. BUT ALL OF IT IS EVIL.

And I personally think every University/college who is quietly dropping the jab mandates need to have their ENDOWMENTS sued until there is nothing left.

Let's face it, most people took an EXPERIMENTAL JAB WITH NO LONG TERM SAFETY INFORMATION.

The entire thing was EVIL. JUST EVIL.

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baker charlie's avatar

So it is OK to throw out old people like used bic lighters or milk past the sell by date. Even though we worked all our lives. The social contract vis a vis things like social security used to be a recognition of the fact they had contributed to society during their lifetime.

It may not be as devastating to the future to kill old over young, but it is not ethical, should be considered as much of a crime and we are prematurely losing a vast pool of wisdom that stretches back to the days before you could just push buttons and sit in your 'smart' house all day.

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I guess it's not so bad that people with learning disabilities were vaxxed too? People like my daughters peer group. My daughter has Downs Syndrome and remains unvaxxed, (despite some very scary moments when social services and our GP weighed in. Sleep was in very short supply during those months). However, she is surrounded by her friends and support staff who are vaxxed and boosted up the wazoo, and at risk from their shedding. I guess it's also ok that unbeknownst to us, her GP placed a DNR on her medical notes and we cannot get it removed. After all, she'll never cure cancer or have children so what does it matter?

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cmpalmer75's avatar

Has Bhattacharya spoken about the jabs recently or has he gone dark? It's very had to reconcile his credentials and experience with his claims about the jabs. Marik and Kory were pro-jab in the beginning, but they changed their position in light of the data. Very hard to understand how anyone thought the jabs were a good idea. If we knew, why didn't they?

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I am not your Other's avatar

Good question. There are still some (e.g., Dr Been, Dr Campbell) who have to dance to keep YT channels and so speak in code. Bhattacharya might have projects and funding in the balance and so his hands are tied? He seems too smart to still believe they are any good.

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Bhattacharya might have projects and funding in the balance and so his hands are tied?

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If this is the case, then Bhattacharya is a fraud. People have been injured. People are dead. I don't give a crap about his other projects.

I don't know Dr. Been, but Campbell changed his mind. He's only been dancing since...and not very well.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

They choose to dance with YT and people die as a result.

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I am not your Other's avatar

Sadly, Jay is still at Stanford. And lives in the Bay Area. And likely he is not ready to move. So ... too bad. Guess more people are going to need to drop dead.

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Mary Ann's avatar

How depressing is that. Here in the UK the covid vaxxes killed old timers in nursing homes on their last legs. How could Jay say something like this? I want to scream right now, but I won’t.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

And, per Michael Yeadon, the elderly cannot mount a proper response to vaccines anyway. It was never going to help them, and it hasn't. There's a reason why they have a higher dose flu vaccine for people age 65+.

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Duchess's avatar

Bingo. Ditto for cancer patients, etc. etc. etc.

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Duchess's avatar

Tha'ts okay Mary Ann, I just screamed for both of us.

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Rosa the Riveted's avatar

😂😂

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Brandy's avatar

You hear him say some really smart things and then... *bam*... this. Someone said it’s about (not interupting) funding for his university but IDK.

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Duchess's avatar

Good point.

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Dean's avatar

Wow, unbelievable. Has he heard of Paxlovid? To my mind it changes the whole equation. If you're unvaccinated and high risk you can take Paxlovid and it will work, bam. If you're vaccinated, you'll probably get rebound disease. So if you get vaxxed now you are both exposing yourself to serious harm from the vax, and at the same time slashing the likelihood that Paxlovid will work for you. What possible sense would that make?

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I am not your Other's avatar

That is one of the worst drugs with something like 600 adverse reactions. No way. Never. Use FLCCC protocol, D and C supplements, IVM or HCQ, etc.

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

Paxlovid falsely claims to do what ivermectin actually does. Even before getting into the side effects and the cost. So really it's like the vaccine in pill form... Not safe, not effective, and all the benefit is to Pfizer's bank account...

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Al X G's avatar

You mean Paxlovid - made by Pfizer? Gee no thanks.

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Duchess's avatar

Will cause cancer. Not good. Not like IVM or HCQ with 70nyears of safety studies.

My God, the polio vaccines we took as kids give us cancer...

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Dr Linda's avatar

What an ass

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Well now, isnt THAT special...'s avatar

Apple threatens alot. I doubt they'll do anything. So far Musk is the only person to follow through on any plan to do anything with soc media...

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Rosa the Riveted's avatar

😼🍿

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Mark's avatar

Just a heads up if you haven’t seen it....Alison Fauci, daughter of Anthony Fauci, has been employed as a senior software engineer at a company called the Empower Project since May of 2022.

She was previously employed by TWITTER for seven years.....

Kind of makes one wonder what she was doing there.

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Duchess's avatar

Igor, Don't you hate it when you are right?

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Igor where can I write to you? The website link said invalid url, what does the the alert mean. One I can see the other is just the same person?

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Never mind

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el gato malo's avatar

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598090996281413638?s=20&t=v--TuJNUJKnNviDAPfuPtA

it appears that apple will not be removing twitter and that cook is saying they never intended to and that it was "a misunderstanding."

maybe this is a nice way to allow a climbdown, maybe the whole thing really did get blown out of proportion and dimension, but either way, looks like bluebirds can still eat apples.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya pushed toxic drugs and framed them as safe and effective.

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Truthbird's avatar

The entire medical establishment did this. The entire medical-pharmaceutical-industrial-military complex, did this, I mean.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Yeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaawwwwwww.

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Pawletto's avatar

My impression is that Bhattacharya, like many other important voices, are not so much focused on the side effects of the vaccine, but more focused on the effects of the authoritarian lockdown and mandates. There's this great soup of concerns at play (vax side effects, mandates, censorship, wokeism, WEF, energy, climate hysteria, etc), and for them, that ingredient's not their focus. I am not in agreement with his suggesting "we've seen enough to know it's pretty safe," but I'll continue applauding most everything else he is speaking out on.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

The great soup of concerns is one of the reasons that this is Not a Movement.

B/c everybody hast their heroes and pet causes and everybody thinks everybody else should feel the same way.

And they don't.

And everybody makes a metric shit ton of excuses absolving their good guy. This goes for Trump, Malone, Stew Peters, and on and on, and Berenson and Alex Jones, and...

"but, but...he was against (blank!)"

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Duchess's avatar

But Sage, this is people. Even when extermination is staring us in the face...it is human nature. We are all different.

Personally, I am fascinated by the woman who got run over by a car, and her first thought is for the run in her nylons.

This is most people (myself included...having totalled a rental car).

I think most people are in some kind of shock.

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Truthbird's avatar

Duchess, I think you mean to say that everyone is suffering from some kind of trauma. I agree with you. That doesn't absolve anyone from evil behavior.

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Duchess's avatar

I wasn't meaning to excuse evil...but that people are different, they focus on trivial things when faced with something overwhelming...like the good guys...Kory on treatment and IVM, and Kirsch on the CDC not seeing safety warnings. etc.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Well my role in the People is to make sure that you remember that you got run over by a car.

Am I failing? Yes.

Grandly.

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Truthbird's avatar

I think of Substack as a platform on which to host digital salons, analogous to the flesh-and-blood salons held in European cities in the 1700s and 1800s. You're hosting a digital salon, and only those who appreciate and enjoy your style participate in it. You're not failing any more than we all are in the effort to avert complete planetary catastrophe.

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Duchess's avatar

No you are NOT FAILING. Far from it.

YOu have woken us all up to the evil that is here, and you keep our spirits up, and

you have provided a place for us to gather and laugh together at the end of the

world.

Sage, how has your substack grown? A lot I bet. and for each reader, be assured there are more out there than you see or know about, and we each take what you find and try and post it other places.

Don't you DARE say you are failing.

WE KNOW we have been hit by a car thanks to you never letting up.

And we need constant reminders too, as we are lying in the street in shock.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Maybe if you weren't so **negative**, Sage! And could come down from off your snarknado? Too twisty.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Even "good guys" get stuff wrong sometimes. Not that it absolves them from anything, just that purity tests aren't much of a solution.

Might be a good thing that "this is Not a Movement". Movements get coopted very quickly.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

The question is not whether they are "good".

"Purity tests" is the standard trope that just means "Stay off my guy" but "fuck that other dude".

It just means, "I will decide who is legit, and fuck you."

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Shy Boy's avatar

Two f-bombs in one response? And I was using your own term, in quotes? Huh.

As usual, not sure what you're saying. Not sure that YOU'RE sure what you're saying.

But let the record show I don't have a "my guy" dog in that fight.

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

Have Martin Kulldorf or Sunetra Gupta said anything about the vaccines?

I really admired all of them for the GBD and all they did there, but at this point, it's really disappointing if they all continue to push the lie about safe and effective. Aseem Malhotra and John Campbell and others all have a reputation and career to protect too, but they are stepping up.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Kulldorff flipped after he got out of the Mob.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/i-found-an-honest-vaccine-scientist

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B/c "the Science" takes a back seat to the tribal influences.

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

Nice! He always stood out to me as someone who had an extra obsession with truth and honesty.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

If you have to leave Harvard to flip, how obsessed were you?

How malleable is your obsession if it relies on leaving your tribe?

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

Is it because of that? I don't know. Have you checked the dates for when he started questioning vaccines and when he left Harvard? At any rate, it's better that he said it than not saying it, which would still be easier for him.

BTW, I live in Israel. We have a fairly brave group of doctors who fought against our ministry of health and the government mandates. But most of them supported the vaccine at first. Took them a long time to come around. They've been fairly critical of it for several months now, though. Point is, it really is very difficult for people from inside the establishment to dare speak against vaccines and the public health/pharma establishment. They have too much to lose. Well paid jobs, prestige, tenure, grant money. But I do expect them to do it anyway, which is why I feel disappointed with Bhattacharya. I still appreciate all he has done, but I'd like to see him take that extra step.

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Pawletto's avatar

Well surely you're aware of just how much cheerleading Malhoutra (I admire him btw) was doing for the vaccines, so maybe cut Jay B. some slack. I don't think he's cheerleading for the vaccine the way Malhoutra was doing (as a practicing physician, with patients, unlike JB).

Michael Shellenberger said recently (long interview with Tucker Carlson) that humans are the primary influencer on climate change, despite many serious voices who recognize the climate changing/warming, yet are not shouting the hubris of "humans are the sole cause." That was one moment out of an hour that I felt was unfortunate at best, but I'm not going to discount all the rest of the great interview! (Likewise, Lomborg accepting the same thing, but focusing on the economic/social costs of following a "wind/solar uber alles" approach to energy.)

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

I do cut him considerable slack, for all that he's done around lockdowns and just for being such a nice, thoughtful dude.

But I also reserve the right to feel disappointed with him or anyone else who has all the data at his fingertips but won't speak out on vaccine harm. He should know, and probably does know.

BTW, I mentioned Malhoutra specifically because he's someone who first believed in the vaccines. But when he saw the data, he had the integrity to admit his mistakes and reverse course, with all the heat I'm sure he's taking for it.

Oh and I appreciate both Schellenberger and Bjorn Lomborg. even though they make me roll my eyes every time they recite the mandatory line about taking the IPCC at their word and that most global warming is man-made, etc...

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Pawletto's avatar

Well said! Thanks.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Well Kirsch came on my board and said Mulhotra is a hero.

Everybody gets a fucking trophy.

Cut whoever you like some slack. That is your option, sure.

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HardeeHo's avatar

He did what? He was part of the GBD (https://gbdeclaration.org/). And those that thought the vaccine was safe were caught up before we understood the corruption in the NIH. He thought in July 2020 (https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Statement%20of%20Jay%20Bhattacharya%20--%20House%20Testimony.pdf) that the FDA would do it's job. But by Sep 21 he warned about mandates https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/status/1439461936823889924. By Feb 2022 he had become angry about being misled https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/status/1491948702948200448. And he has been well trashed by his peers https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/stanford-professor-who-challenged-lockdowns-declares-academic-freedom-dead/.

I think you have the wrong guy.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

See you are mixing up a lot of issues here.

You know how I know? B/c I personally asked in a private DM conversation to address VAERS after his testimony in Congress.

I have a person on my board who ate dinner with him as he still pushed the jabs for the olds in Sonoma.

You can come back and say, Sorry, Sage, I was talking about stuff that I didn't understand because I like to have comic book heroes. But you probably won't.

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/el-gato-bhattacharya

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/dr-jay-bhattacharya-continues-to

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HardeeHo's avatar

I see your focus is on his position on vaccines and since I got the first two shots, I discount that issue more than you might. I suspect he s wrong about vaccine utility, even for seniors like myself at 82 with various medical issues. I personally am not offended if I differ with someone over a point or two. I still see Bhattacharya as being right over other issues. And from https://sagehana.substack.com/p/dr-jay-bhattacharya-continues-to we have some agreement. Whether Bhattacharya eventually comes to terms with the harms like John Campbell remains to be seen.

I took exception to "Dr. Jay Bhattacharya pushed toxic drugs and framed them as safe and effective." - I don't see him as "pushing" and assess he evolved to thinking "safe-effective" was not fully true; I sense a maybe in his discussion.

OTOH, the real criminals are authorities who refuse to do PSAs for Vit D and mouth/nose sanitation, both within reach of the masses.

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I'm going to read your articles, Sage, and I don't think you're replying to me, but my point in this section of the comments is that its often best not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater." Lauding someone's good work does not require that one places them on a pedestal, nor makes one blind to their faults.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/el-gato-bhattacharya

Watch the video(s).

Or continue to conflate mandates and lockdowns with pushing the jabs so you can keep your Heroes the way you want them.

Your choice.

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cat's avatar

"Toxic drugs" such as????

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Such as the experimental gene editing mRNA injections wrongly called, "vaccines".

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cat's avatar

I thought Dr Jay signed the Barrington thing. Didn't he?

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cmpalmer75's avatar

He was co-author with Sunetra Gupta (Oxford) and Martin Kulldorff (Harvard). The Great Barrington Declaration preceded the jabs and focussed on non-medical interventions.

https://gbdeclaration.org

Kuldorff on the jabs:

https://brownstone.org/articles/are-the-covid-mrna-vaccines-safe/

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Mary Ann's avatar

He authored it

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CK's avatar

Just from Pfizer:

Protonix

Prempro

Chantix

Zoloft

Effexor

That’s the start. How much time do you have?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The VA warned veterans about taking Chantix because it could cause a psychotic break...like suicide.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Well, the VA is still pushing the covid death shots and boosters.

Recently received an email that veterans can get the booster and the flu shot the same day.

...and they still make us wear a mask.

So...they stopped caring about us a long time ago.

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Duchess's avatar

I have a box of Chantix sitting under my bathroom sink.

Maybe if I get diagnosed with lung cancer from years of smoking, I will

try it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hopefully, the drug will be inert.

I would miss your comments!

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If that’s all you do wrong in life chances are good you are happy and will often live a long life. It’s the pharm drugs and fake food big ag and big chem and vaccines that do us in now. I had many elder patients who did the same thing but they also ate at home and cooked from scratch and worked hard and usually went to church of some kind were generally happy folks. So long as they stayed away from conventional docs, treating their illnesses was fairly easy. Not so much the younger generations.

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Mary Ann's avatar

My cousin killed himself. He took chanting🥲🥲

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I think there are many pharmaceutical drugs whose side effects include suicide, and the mRNA covid "vaccines" are unquestionably among that category. I say this because some of the extreme adverse reactions which I experienced after my second dose of Pfizer's covid "vaccine" were so excruciatingly painful, debilitating, and disabling that I was suicidal. Had the reactions not eventually subsided (after weeks of intense physical agony for each of the specific symptoms) I'm sure I would have killed myself.

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Rosa the Riveted's avatar

Remdesivir, paxlovid...

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Blair's avatar

I believe Run-Death-Is-Near is made by Gilead Sciences.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Remdesivir was developed by University of North Carolina Chapel Hill.

The same folks who weaponized the coronavirus before it was shipped off to Wuhan for finishing touches.

https://sph.unc.edu/sph-news/remdesivir-developed-at-unc-chapel-hill-proves-effective-against-covid-19-in-niaid-human-clinical-trials/

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Duchess's avatar

And a girl at Harvard....Fauci has a huge investment in Gilead...as do others.

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Duchess's avatar

Most are. I stick to those we find in nature...aspirn (Willow tree)

HCQ (quinine derivative), Antibiotics (Mold) and painkillers (Opium poppies).

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ForestDi56's avatar

I use the originals. No need for the pharm folks to try to improve things. 🥰

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CW's avatar

Actually 1 of the hottest account spreading protests info and footage is from China is on twitter right now, banning twitter app = helping CCP to suppress protest info too.

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Shy Boy's avatar

CCP has had Apple by the Foxconn cojones ever since they started making iPhones.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Ouch

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Skye's avatar

Absolutely right!

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Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

What is a “sideload out”? Looks vaguely obscene.

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Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

Loading apps using methods other than the APP store. Should be more common but the APPs do not have security certificates from Apple/Google so can cause issues. Some cases require Jailbreaking and I don't think the latest iPhone has been cracked yet.

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Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

Thank you.

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Brandon G's avatar

You know Musk better than anyone, how do we know he is not lying?

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Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

He is in a unique position. Part of the elite but almost powerful enough to give them the finger. He has NASA over a barrel for a little while still, the only reliable way to send people up to the space station. He may turn into a Joseph Goebbels or a Oskar Schindler, time will tell.

Odd how the Ukraine war smouldered for years until the USA no longer needed Russia to send crew to the space station. I doubt that USA will ask China for help and the other options are not ready yet/ever so Elon is the guy at this time. The electric car stunt has less pull as others are entering the market, it is simply a profitable battery marketing exercise at this time.

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I forgot to mention Elon may also have a secret weapon with Starlink that can avoid abusive denial of service attacks from the internet overlords. Not every elite wannabe has a social media platform and a communications network that does not need national grids. Be kind of a cool world where the elite are eliminated by access to a censorship free network and platform.

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Duchess's avatar

We don't.

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Lee Muller's avatar

And so the sorting begins. Now is the time to pick which side of history to be on if you haven't already.

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Free Range Poverty Lawyer's avatar

Unfortunately it will be a choice between competing technofascists.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Some may slip though the cracks. Later, seeds may sprout.

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Duchess's avatar

Yes. And behind my back I always hear, times winged chariot drawing near...I was supposed to find out how to retire today, so I can concentrate on finding a place and figuring out how to get out from under paper assets and leave everything to my young nieces and nephews.

I didnt even call the dealer to schedule an oil change. God I need to get my ass in gear.

Because I will not survive the coming population cull. No, not jabbed, but old.

And we old people are expendable.

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Yes we are but also invaluable. Do you think any woke kid is going to wake up with certainty? They are all lost, I mean look at what they are facing? They will need help.

Where are planning to retire?

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Skye's avatar

Yes, the Great Divide is upon us. I have watched the British Government carrying out certain actions for a long while now - NONE in the “public interest” l am still waiting for condemnation by the British Government of the atrocities carried out by Xi - they are quick enough to carry out Orders and institute mass genocide and eugenics upon their people!

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Lisa Pearce's avatar

Whilst here in Australia our govt drool over the CCP. Maybe because, they r by proxy the CCP.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Apple and Google will go down in history as authoritarian censorers in the spirit of mind control of the people.

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Skye's avatar

Any “people” left? Or TRANSHUMAN robots carrying out the Agenda and of course

all the illegal immigrants of fighting age being housed in hotels and extremely nice accommodation will in fact be the re-pop in the TRUE COLONIALIST fashion that Britain has never truly walked away from - they will be the serfs or army if needed!

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Duchess's avatar

Trust me, they won't need all of them either. They have too many kids.

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Their kids will be disappearing for the culties to torture. That’s probably what this whole immigrant thing is about, keep us distracted so they can feed.

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And probably even more kids the more immigrants flood in, the poorest tending to keep having kids

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Yeah, immigrants are often compliant...but their children are less so

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cgg's avatar

A lot of focus is on FB and Twitter and rightfully so - they aren't innocents by any stretch of the imagination; but IMHO, these two are far, far worse.

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Both will do just about whatever any government will tell them to. Transhumans the lot too, likely happy to depopulate the useless eaters

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Authoritarians can't hold on to power indefinitely

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Duchess's avatar

Books. We need to save the books, and these Substacks. Paper last a very long time. Digital crap..nope, gone in an instant.

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My son has a huge library of classics. I pick up all the good 'DIY' manuals I can find, extra points if they feature non-power tools and systems. One of my older freinds has a community lending library of books full of skills and survival. That said, everybody should be preserving knowledge. It is being lost as the old are killed off prematurely by the governments.

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I got a book stashed away on early american tools and living.

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Me Mcc's avatar

The quiet fight has been happening for the last two years when US "president" Biden was installed. It will get more ugly before it gets better. We still have to find a way to stop mandates, vaccine passports and the sellout of our nation's rights, stop digital ID and money, 5G emp being used on the masses, etc. all the while being aware that the media is in on it all.

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I am not at all sure that this mess was a pre planned depopulation scheme...... I think that it started out as a coverup of illegal GOF work and a lab leak.

But I do think that various western organizations (especially the WEF, US bio defense, megalomaniacal billionaires, the US Democratic Party, and European governments) latched on to it to advance their own agendas ...... many of which are overlapping. Remember Rahm Emmanuel’s comment about ‘not letting a crisis go to waste’?

This has resulted in a fight over all of the things that you listed, and we had better figure out a way to win or the world will be a truly miserable place to live......

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I actually think it has been planned for decades and in the US, "they" are so furious at Trump because he delayed their plans by 4 years. Look back at Killery from that time...she had even taken to wearing the uniform of China at that time. They saw the "virus" (bioweapon) that actually only had a .2% death rate as their opportunity to push things...trying to make up time. Anyway, yes... we better figure it out quickly. They are right now having dry runs on digital ID and centralized banking. People better speak with their wallets while they still can because after this it will be more extreme... at least when people have time after securing some food.

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I guess that it doesn’t really matter whether it was pre-planned or if it is just the bad guys taking advantage of an opportunity. Either way we are still in the same place, with our lives and freedoms at risk from people who believe that they are the ones who need to control everyone and everything.

Because they are better or smarter or something.......

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Me Mcc's avatar

Should be "speak with their wallets..."

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Skye's avatar

Great Post - well summed up Me Mcc 👏👏👏👏

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Duchess's avatar

Yes. Thanks for this summary. We have a lot to do.

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JudyC's avatar

I don’t think Musk is the savior of truth and fairness, but I do believe he will not go down without a fight. I don’t see him rolling over on this. He’ll come up with something to combat what they’re doing. Apple and Google will “deplatform” Twitter….let’s see what Musk does next. Time for some other big players to step in and help free speech! Alternative platforms beware…they’ll try to pull the same thing on you, too. No one is safe from these bullies who want us all to live in THEIR echo chamber!

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He likes chess games it appears 😉

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Stan_R's avatar

The Emperor Elonicus...CJ Hopkins Nov 27

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-emperor-elonicus

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Duchess's avatar

San_R...LOVE.Thanks for that. CJ is quite right.

I am grateful that at the end of the world...I am in the world with you and all these

terrific substack writers.

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Me Mcc's avatar

Yes, I fear he's just a part of it based on his past. After all, he made a great amount of his money off the government.

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Duchess's avatar

I wish I had your faith. I think he is a CIA asset.

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Shy Boy's avatar

But but but... maybe he's "our" CIA asset? Haha.

He's Paypal Mafia! His fortunes are all from subsidies! His grandpa invented Techocracy! He tortures simians! Fauci only tortured beagles. Yeah, there's more to Musk than people like to acknowledge.

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Truth

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Skye's avatar

There is only one hope for the world - Collective thought and Direct Action. Yes, you are right it is well beyond time that we heard from some other big players .. well beyond time! Any suggestions who they may be?

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The elites of the world can not stand the reality of not controlling the narrative and the news we consume. Allowing us to freely communicate with someone half way across the world and realizing what we were told by the authorities is a lie is a direct threat to the elites. Apple is well aware and will do all they can do to comply with the ruling elites dictates

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Duchess's avatar

What would happen if they shut off the internet for only some of us?

Any ideas? Mine was a mimeo machine, but it won't work long distance.

Ham radio?

Anyone?

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Me Mcc's avatar

I'm not sure. At this point, better foster some local contracts for resources and stock up on ammunition. I'm hopeful we can stop things...but also realistic.

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Phil Davis's avatar

People must understand that we are beyond corruption. It is no longer that term because corruption is now the whole system. What we have is a vast crime syndicate involving all federal agencies, all large corporations the military apparatus, the media, and especially the intelligence complex. They all work together in a black market type of power structure. There are more active than others, but this is all business as usual and has been for several decades.

Nothing is coincidence.

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shibumi's avatar

A short story related to corruption:

I went to Walmart today (mistake, didn't buy anything) and some of their self service check outs were set to "credit and debit only, no change." It's the same at Home Depot. Some are cash/credit, some are only credit.

How long before all the self service check outs are all credit?

And how long after that will the stores stop accepting cash? Doesn't matter if it's illegal NOT to accept cash, who is going to stop them?

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Its the same in Australia. Self serve checkouts everywhere and cashless payments preferred. Some places insist you pay with a card and there is a small surcharge attached to call debit card payments. Some places offer you the safety and convenience of ordering food with a QR code at the table and that also has a small surcharge attached. So its basically daylight robbery in a new form. Yet, people happily go along with it and think it’s quaint if you pay with cash.

I left.

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Skye's avatar

This is becoming the “norm” in Britain now. The brain dead 🐑 go along with it mindlessly - Exactly as planned .. the awake and aware - the pure bloods too must take DIRECT ACTION in whatever way they can - l do everyday knowing that l may be called to pay the ultimate sacrifice!

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So, I've started selling things at holiday craft shows. I take ONLY cash. And I have a sign that says something like "cash only please. Cash promotes freedom of monetary choice." It's a watered down message for sure, and I have lost sales, but it's a stand, no matter how small.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yay for you!

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shibumi's avatar

Thank you. I've even had conversations with random people about CBDCs and the danger.

One woman from TX made a very valid point: what do you do for money when there is an extended power outage? Things that make you go hmmmm...

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Copernicus's avatar

Hadn’t considered the power outage scenario! Good point!!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Yep. And, how long before you need to scan your QR code to access the food on the shelves behind the glass partitions and locked doors?

Asking for a friend with no QR Code.

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shibumi's avatar

During the two years of "c0vid" my husband and I would go out to dinner. They would have QR codes on the table. We tried to use it once, and then decided to opt out.

Aka "yeah, we need a menu, thanks."

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Copernicus's avatar

Yep, me too!

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

The governments of the world colluded to murder and maim their citizens with bioweapons.

Oh sorry.

Wrong post. I commented on the wrong post.

I like to eat Doritos.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Maybe you commented on the wrong post, but your comment is on the mark!!!

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Truthbird's avatar

I suspect Sage was being ironic when she said she'd commented on the wrong post.

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Shy Boy's avatar

It's a general purpose comment... That's all Sage ever talks about. Mass murder bioweapons and Doritos. She's got a whole substack full of it. Nice place to visit!

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goodnightrose's avatar

Tbf, included are sea life, vintage cars, floofy outerwear and all of your sacred cows.

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macDuff's avatar

if "we" were really bothered, we could put an end to this rapidly. Everybody who knows how to root an apple or a google phone helps everybody around them root their phone and put a non-sold-out system on it. Then we hook up every internet box on the planet with a vpn and open wifi. Overnight (or maybe 5 or 6 days, that's a lot of rooting and routing) everybody can keep using their device but stop using the gsm network, use only the big isp's wifi networks with a group of vpn providers who seize the opportunity by offering 1 euro a month subscriptions or even free with limited total bandwidth.

That would get their attention. It's sure that they don't think we're capable of that, and they're surely right.

But we could do it if the desire was there.

The CIA might have to put on a pair of sneakers for the first time this century.

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Truthbird's avatar

I don't have a smartphone. Probably a lot of people in my age cohort and older (I'm 66) don't either. We want to be able to participate in digital communication. How would we do that in your scenario?

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with your 15 year old dell laptop with the wifi on the open wifi internet box.

I don't have a cell phone either. I don't need it, I connect 300 families together on internet depriving the local operators of 6000 euros a month.

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Skye's avatar

How? I am seriously interested - but not a techie

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MB's avatar

Can you point me to a tutorial of how this is done?

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macDuff's avatar

https://presearch.com/search?q=how%20to%20root%20an%20iphone

just ask your question in natural language. That's the whole point of a search engine. It's a good case of the "capitalist" selling the rope we use to hang him.

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Thank you. I was actually wondering how to network multiple families on one Wi-Fi access point. It seems most search results assume some basic networking knowledge (which I do not possess). But I appreciate the link you sent as it introduced me to a new search engine. I usually use Brave or Quant (to avoid google), but Presearch looks good too. Thanks for the lead!

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Kevin Powell's avatar

And when the "big isp's" simply turn off their free wifi?

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macDuff's avatar

I"m in France. Here, we have control of our boxes. Is it different where you are? Where are you?.

Pretty easy to hook up a wifi device on that box with a cable.

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I don't know. I know next to nothing about internet technology. I never even had a computer, or any kind of modern communication technology at all, for that matter, in my life until I was nearly fifty years old. My step-mom showed me around the basic internet (I have very rudimentary computer skills) and my techy sister set up my computer for me. It's all a black box to me.

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macDuff's avatar

my idea would call for you to use your device to find the names of available wifi networks without passwords. You would connect to it and you'd be with people who wanted you to win and for google and apple to lose. It's that easy.

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Skye's avatar

Many on the dark net

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Truthbird's avatar

I keep reading about how many people want to GET RID of wifi because of its manifold deleterious health effects. Here you are clamoring for MORE of it. This simply does not add up.

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I can only speak for France, where I live, but I bet it's the same everywhere. I have been using wifi devices for 20 years for which I can control the power output. My devices have always been able to be reduced to one milliwatt, the definition of zero decibels.

The devices delivered by the operators are at the legal maximum. That would be 100 mw in 2.4 ghz, 500 mw in some 5ghz frequencies and 1 watt in other 5 ghz frequencies.

Some good laptops can do the same. Most cannot. So the one that can hurt you the most is the one that can't be controlled.

But you could buy a usb device which you could keep at 1 milliwatt and turn off the one that the manufacturer of your laptop decided (no doubt coerced) to not permit you to reduce below the minimums.

Now for 20 years people have made no effort to understand anything, even though it's as easy as using a search engine and asking intelligent questions.

If you want to blame me for the vast majority of humanity being lazy shits, please go ahead, I don't mind. I won't take it personally.

It's probably the best you can do right now.

Talk to me after you've had time to absorb some of what I've just told you.

I encourage you to have this conversation with me, it might be the first time that it gets even this wide of an audience.

Please continue. It will be a pleasure.

Of course, everybody can use a piece of ethernet cable covered with lots of layers of aluminum foil and steel wire and have none of these problems.

It's just not as convenient.

Please take this conversation as far as you want. I am an expert on this subject.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Brilliant. ❤

I've read all the concerns. Read that someone (one living in Thailand, one elsewhere) is raising chickens near a newly installed 5g tower: they're not laying. (Or hatching.)

Etc.

I know a very tiny bit about Faraday Cages. (Don't use them.)

You sir (or Madame) seem to have done extensive legwork and research, and have the intelligence to implement solutions, thereby effectively thwarting "them".

Good ONYA!

Please, oh please, start a Substack!

We need access to you and your data. Not just your very well written and explained comments.

Thank you.

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macDuff's avatar

I have friends with 100 chickens that don't lay many eggs since their son has been sick. No 5g in the equation. I'll consider the safer wifi substack.

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Tsipora Pereira's avatar

Sounds great. Why don't you write a manual for the uninitiated? We'd pay for it.

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macDuff's avatar

if you just ask the right questions you'll see it's been there for a long time. "root" for android, "jailbreak" for apple. It's important enough to "them" that what you'll see is that there are devices which are much more adapted to that, probably for most folks the thing to do is sell yours used and buy one which was born to be wild.

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do you think they're ready to give up their main source of income to stop this?

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they didn't invent the term "internet kill switch" to be afraid to use it.

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Tsipora Pereira's avatar

I grasp the problem more or less but in order to solve it I would need to have these instructions broken down into safety pins and sellotape, so sorry.

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macDuff's avatar

you'll do it when the whole situation starts to disgust you like it should. It will help if you get a new neighbor or an old one who is doing that regularly for the good of humanity.

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Tsipora Pereira's avatar

The situation disgusts me quite enough as it is but the good thing is I have never yet owned an iphone. I'd have to make sure to get the right one when I do but I am hoping to live out my life happily (please God) without one.

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The Alive One's avatar

You cant do that so easily with an Apple device but you can with Android.

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macDuff's avatar

for the iphone it's called "jailbreak" rather than root. I've never tried. I understood that Steve Jobs sold his soul to the devil, I never found him interesting. I still find M. Wosniak interesting, he's what is good about computing, Jobs was a poor lost soul. Yes, they were kept down by the psychopaths who have now promoted them to the peak of the forces of evil until Jobs sold his soul.

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I never said its impossible. Just easier with Android. EFoundation, Graphene OS are good examples. I installed one last year on a Pixel and used it for a while. Was a very buggy experience. But at least my device was more anonymous on the network.

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STH's avatar

What if they do the same to Substack???

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Google or Microsoft could buy and shutter substack

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el gato malo's avatar

and THAT is why you need to download and save your whole email list regularly.

these communities are of great value and you cannot leave the keys to them in anyone's hands but your own.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Thinking of moving to my own domain like eugyppius

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Alex #DoNotComply's avatar

Own domains are also not 100% safe. The possible scenario is that providers like Godaddy would be pushed by govt and remove your domain or restrict access to it.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Domain's easy. Hosting's more of a commitment. Substack makes monetization and commenting easy, but you can always take donations.

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Duchess's avatar

It is a great thought. I hope you do.

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Duchess's avatar

EXACTLY. KO-FI or mimeo machine.

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freelearner's avatar

My God, I hope they wouldn't sell.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I pray for this

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shibumi's avatar

Well, a solution of sorts would simply be to start sending out your own newsletter. Even if you can't comment on a site, the information is still valuable, and if you have people's email addresses, well... you can keep in touch that way.

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There are at least 50 important names in the resistance, you are one and you can get the word out to the core teams.

I am a low level Vitamin-D3 advocate but I also have paranoid tendencies so I see choke points.

I strongly urge you and anyone who can to save their contact lists from gMail and backup FaceBook if still using them. Investigate their own domain outside of their own jurisdiction.

Then there should be a committee formed with perhaps the help of GNU, linux (tiny chance Torvalds was compromised), The EFF and Anonymous to build a distributed fault tolerant messaging system that relies on trust (or better yet INTEGRITY like in a recent SubStack post) to authenticate users. If you vouch for a bad person you loose reputation and trust when they are exposed. The system could be built to co-exist with one of the open source mesh networks that work without carriers where carriers are compromised. A time may come that people cannot send an email or make a phone call openly to people outside their family.

If every copy of Ubuntu/GNU-linux included a censorship free messaging platform it would become popular.

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Shy Boy's avatar

2023 is TOTALLY going to be the year of Linux on the Desktop!

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baker charlie's avatar

My ancient Dell rocking Xubuntu and TOR browser awaits the new wave.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Easily. When you are (very likely) platformed by the same facilitators who run the US Government, the WEF, major corporations institutions and our dear friends Silicon Valley what would we expect? Anyone actually know who their digital backbone is provided by?

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Both are great non-violent protest targets.

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Rosa the Riveted's avatar

I don't do the substack app. I have open windows with all my daily reading, revolver.news, substack, etc. I try not to use apps

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cgg's avatar

Ditto that. I use apps as a last resort.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Viva la Open Web

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Skye's avatar

This is indeed a grave concern. It is a possibility and one l am sure that has been considered. Why would they allow ANYONE to have ANY platform to share any information, ideas, and rally the “battle cry” .. Shutting down Free Speech is PRIORITY ONE on the Agenda - the people are awake and aware now .. and that will bring with it massive world wide dissent .. and that .. IS NOT ON THE AGENDA!

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they already did and you didn't notice. Eye-gore thinks that pathogenic virus particles with no metabolism get inside of the nuclei of living cells via brownian motion or perhaps the evil will power of the psychopaths and that once in there they reprogram the reproductive system of the cell and create new supply lines to be able to manufacture so many copies of their own inanimate non-arses that the poor living cell explodes.

And he acts like he's a scientist.

So that would seem to be proof that substack is a wholly owned subsidiary of the psychopathic banking cartel which is running our world.

Please help me to see where I've perceived the situation in error if you find that to be the case.

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What is with you? Every comment I see from you is pushing your theory that there's no such thing as a virus. We get it. You don't agree with Igor. What we should agree on is these crazy covid propagandists trying to erase our rights or straight out kill us and fight then instead of fighting each other, because the way you're going about isn't convincing anyone to jump on your bandwagon. IMO

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Does that mean that you can point me to the controlled experiment with the falsifiable hypothesis which proves that inanimate objects can reprogram living cells and create new structures with new functions in those cells?

I have a hard time going along with people who are fooling themselves. It's not like I"m against any action you want to take. Tell me what your idea is for getting us all out of this mess?

I'm afraid that if we stop them this time without getting to the bottom of the pathogenic virus hoax that they'll just do it again and eliminate some of the mistakes they made. Then we'll be back with half of you convinced that the new virus is real and the other half trying to defend your rights to not be vaccinated. If we could get people to face reality it seems like a better plan.

So, you had time to write to me "what's with you?", the least you could do is show me your controlled repeatable experiment which proves the existence of pathogenic virus particles.

And if you can't, at least have the courage to admit that you're believing in something that you don't understand in violation of Stevie Wonder's warning from his song "superstition".

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I don't understand a lot of things and don't claim to. I would like to find out more about what you're own ideas so please, give me some links so I can decide for myself because you just saying it's so doesn't convince me at all.

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ok. You're asking me to prove that something doesn't exist. On the other hand, you are taking the word of people who are claiming that something exists without any proof. I suppose that your justification would be that they are "experts". This is a logical fallacy known as "the appeal to authority".

The fake "vaccine" makers are going to make more than 100 billion dollars this year that they wouldn't make if everybody demanded proof that pathogenic virus particles exist.

So if they know that pathogenic virus particles don't exist, or if the don't know that they do exist, they keep more than 100 billion dollars by ignoring this issue completely.

I have nothing at stake.

If you want to learn some things, that's good. I'll be happy to give you a couple of things to look at.

There are 2 nobel prizes which have been given for alleged discoveries of pathogenic virus particles.

Chronologically the first was the "tobacco mosaic virus". If you look at his experiment, you will see that there is no control. I was taught at school that an experiment without a control is of no value, because you don't end up knowing what the real cause is.

The second nobel prize for discovery of a pathogenic virus was for "polio".

John F. Enders got this prize. He said himself regarding his experiment, "I got the same results with the control, that's going to need to be looked at."

I don't know of any better proof than that that the pathogenic virus theory is a psy-op to gain control of us by fear and to absorb lots of our money for nothing (and the chicks for free) and to put us all in worse health, thus assuring still more profits as they have a monopoly with their control of the medical surveillance systems.

And as I said, I am unable to find any repeatable (and repeated) controlled experiment which demonstrates the existence of any pathogenic virus.

Please explain why I would need to prove that it doesn't exist and the people who are making 100s of billions and hurting us all in so many way don't need to prove the positive for you?

Let me know if this line of reasoning doesn't make sense to you.

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Rosa the Riveted's avatar

It makes sense. I get it now.

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Disgustedwithallofit's avatar

Big picture: 68 million people never took the COVID shot. 68 million critical thinkers will always come up with a way to overcome the barriers that the leaders of the sheep put in their way.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

68 million of us that the Biden regime wants to put in "re-education" camps.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Good luck with that. A significant fraction of us are 2A diehards.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes we are...

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

The number of unjabbed critical thinkers, world-wide, is much higher.

#TrudeaumustgoNOW 🆘️

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Paving the Way's avatar

In 2017 we were exposing it all, including the underlying assumptions behind woke and race hustling etc. Ron Paul had already exposed the illegitimacy and tyranny of the FED in 2008-2012. It was just a matter of time before all the PSYOPS were exposed. They came after truth on the internet. Things slowed down a bit until COVID and a new crop of truth-tellers emerged.

Billions are being made and power is maintained on the illusions of the West.

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Stephanie B.'s avatar

I predicted to a friend about a week ago that Elon Musk was going to go ahead and start his own big tech empire to just side-step all these censor-happy brutalists. He's now just talking about making his own phone. He should just go ahead and make alternatives to everything - phone, app store, search, etc. Not that I want a new monopoly but Apple and Google are out of control and need to be taken down a peg.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

exciting time

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Skye's avatar

Frightening times when chaos abounds and the many headless chicken go run around the sheep .. Absolutely love your posts Igor - each one keeps my cellular activity activated despite being hit hard with the G .. Thank you for what you do!

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The Mallorn Tree's avatar

So often I see shallow, baseless misinformation spread on the media by the government or certain elites regarding covid, or climate change, or white supremacists, bigots etc.

In every occasion it's clear the reporter could tear their claims to shreds by simply asking a few obvious questions, or pointing out simple facts. Like, why do you say we need to lock down when places that locked down did no better on covid? Why do you always quote the worst case scenarios from IPCC despite their failed track record? Why is NATO risking nuclear war rather than pushing for peace talks? Etc.

Yet these questions never get asked and the public just get constantly brainwashed with the same shallow messaging.

That can only happen with concentrated control of the media. Both MSM and the Alphabet/Meta duopoly that controls most of the conversation on the internet.

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Skye's avatar

Excellent post! Truth speaking at its finest!

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Mad Hedgehog's avatar

I don’t understand why everyone is so excited about anticipated free speech on Twitter. Musk appointed ADL as a content moderator. This speaks volumes. Although, ADL’s main task is to attack everyone who dares to criticize Jews, it is openly anti-White, pro-LGBTQ, pro-CRT, pro-open borders, etc. I don’t expect to see much difference overall with ADL.

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Timothy Williams's avatar

Alex Jones is a key test case. He is anathema to ADL. If he is restored, Twitter’s commitment to free speech will be confirmed.

However, I think you are right and that Jones will not be restored. Twitter will continue to censor, but with slightly softer gloves.

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Shy Boy's avatar

AJ? Another CIA clown. Twitter will be GAB-level free speech only when Kanye gets a platform. Shadowbanning doesn't count.

(Not endorsing Kanye's position on anything, just he makes a better canary. Also, isn't he trying to buy Parler? Very Trumpy of him.)

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Stan_R's avatar

This is 100% Bingo

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