Nah, the HVAC crew isn't giving kickbacks, they are being primed for the future, when they might be relied upon for setting up toxic ventilation for FEMA camps, Quarantine camps, Reeducation camps, Detainment camps, .... Extermination Camps !! This will be extra-lucrative for them too, but they must be prepped and plied first. lol
I know nothing about your specialty, but I smell the air from the room where I am not cooking flow through from the kitchen. That goes for several houses where I helped out as well. So indeed, no air filter, no airco, can keep the germs from spreading. Best thing is to open all windows and doors and let fresh air in!
Fresh air is awesome. Unfortunately in some beautiful places there's an overabundance of pollen certain times of the year, in which case air filters really help those with allergies.
Do any of you ever go for a walk in fresh air only to be assaulted by fragrant dryer pads overwhelming the fresh air as the chemical ‘fragrance’ billows from the neighbors’ homes dryer vents?
It’s a legal but annoying form of air pollution imho.
Luckily I currently live in an area with lots of conservation land, but I do recall walking on one path where there seemed to be an artificial fragrance wafting from a nearby house.
We live in the country, on our own 27 acres of wooded land. When walking on the path in our woods, we often smell the toxic, fake fragrance from a neighbor’s dryer vent, depending on the wind direction that day. We stopped buying fabric softener years ago…plain vinegar is better…cheaper, no toxic chemicals or disgusting smells; laundry comes out smelling like nothing - as it should.
this year the pollen all came at once here in GA. Usually the pines are first, then come the oaks. I have both in my yard and my car looked like a molded cheese! Luckily I am not too bothered by them.
Actually, pollen is an ancient Chinese adaptogen, bee pollen in honey from the locale around you, and expensive honey products often contain it, although Klaus the Hideous suffocating in a vat of it would certainly be tragic. May 15 here and I've seen one bumblebee and one other bee only. No mosquitos, hardly any black flies, no butterflies. It is eerie.
I am happy to report that so far this spring from my front door, I've seen bumblebees buzzing, mama birds feeding their hatchlings, deer grazing, a giant coyote prowling(!), turkeys strutting, squirrels climbing and scurrying... The pollen onslaught has just begun...
try THIS on for size...cut out Dairy & be pleasantly surprised, as was this now ex-allergic & happily kleenex-less ol'mechanic...eg., thesun.co.uk/fabulous/health-and-fitness/15355854/five-foods-to-cut-out-for-hay-fever-sufferers/ Think about it- pollen,dust, pet dander,etc= neverending torture. Bottom line, you can't shut out all that stuff, but you can control your body's reaction/immune system to it by cleaning up the fuel/food you consume. easy-peasy
About 30 years ago I found out which foods on the list gave me the most trouble: certain cheeses, most nightshades, and coffee. Eliminating those was a life-saver! Much more recently I've eliminated the sweets, certain fruits, most of the tiny amount of alcohol I had been consuming, and certain nuts. Eliminating those has significantly improved my quality of life.
So far I've been happily consuming the fattiest dairy: ghee, butter, heavy cream, crème fraîche, extra cream plain yogurts...
To quote the immoral words of Bill Clinton, it depends on the definition of "is".
Seriously, humans can tolerate a certain amount of biological and chemical junk in the air, many buildings have worse air inside than out, and we should all strive to reduce indoor and outdoor pollution and improve our immune systems.
to think of all the chemicals most people use to clean with ! I haven't cleaned with anything but peroxide and vinegar in years. I avoid spraying for bugs, although not always possible. I especially dislike these home perfumes, most I am allergic to.
People don’t realize that all those toxic fragrances have to be processed by their liver. I can’t stand going down certain aisles in the grocery store. If one’s home is clean, no fake fragrances needed.
cannot go in the aisles with that stuff, trying to buy the only washing powder I can use at dollar stores where there is a less massive amount. Get nauseated in these aisles !
Achieving excellence in building ventilation is an appropriate goal for new buildings and for buildings with major renovations. For other buildings, the ROI may not justify the changes.
The best way to avoid avoid metabolic syndrome, related chronic diseases, and Covid is:
1) Eat real food, including plenty of animal-based products and natural oils (like ghee and olive oil).
2) Avoid sugar, corn syrup, and most other natural and artificial sweeteners.
3) Avoid processed foods, especially processed carbs and seed/vegetable oils.
4) Stop snacking and investigate intermittent fasting.
5) Get plenty of fresh air and sunshine, while avoiding sunburn.
6) Exercise moderately.
7) Sleep long enough each night.
8) Find non-drug and non-alcohol stress coping mechanisms that work for you.
9) Pray.
10) Communicate with friends.
These items are proven to have beneficial effects and beneficial side-effects, though they are quite unhealthy for the profits of Big Farma and Big Pharma.
I've been Carnivore since 2019, i doing so, I reversed ALL my " you're getting about that age" at 61, I still take ZERO McPharma drugs. I eat between 1 - 1.5 lbs a day
I could never imagine before that by eliminating everything but red meat would give me excellent Health.
The young person in our home was recently casually discussing going carnivore, due to some health stuff. But after I made liver, which this young person eagerly consumed and had second helpings (‼️‼️‼️), this young person also decided carnivore was too difficult, as the liver really wasn't THAT good. Haha.
We eat mostly meat (but not truly nose to tail), veggies, and some fruits. Have eaten this way for several years, although the young person and I occasionally eat a few other things as well. For example, on road trips.
It's a great way to eat. Although frankly, it also is currently incredibly frustrating to be HAVING to adhere so religiously to this way of eating due to aforementioned health concerns. New concerns arose several months ago so we've severely tightened up the diet. 😩 No young person (or older adult, actually, but especially a child) should have a state of health that obliges them to religiously forego the very occasional convenience of grabbing a burger at a fast food place (with bun), or eating the hot dog and chips at the youth camp out. Sigh. We are hoping the current restrictions are temporary.
Our government continues poisoning us through so many venues - geoengineering, glyphosate, injections (which we no longer take but got as babies), EMFs and the ghastly towers everywhere, and so on. It never used to be so hard to feel well.
I had quite a sweet-tooth, but ever since I went keto, I've found that I enjoy almost any food without added sauces or flavorings, even kale, which I used to dislike.
Kale! Being able to tolerate or even enjoy kale is the ultimate sign that you've subjugated the natural taste sense to your will. Liking kale is not natural, it requires hypnotizing your tongue.
No, not really. It's still at the very bottom of the list of foods that I regularly consume. Something that is particularly delicious to me these days is high-fat ground beef or ground-pork cooked with a little bit of onions. Poached eggs, bacon, prosciutto, Peking duck, other duck, pork belly, fatty steaks, lamb chops...always taste great too.
I was told that coconut oil was super, but some jars of it made my food taste good and others made it taste bad, so I've switched to ghee, preferably grass-fed, which reliably tastes so much better.
Swine have been injected with mRNA vaccine for at least two years. Bill Gates wants to inject cattle next, very soon. Epoch Times has a two part documentary about this. What they don’t cover is that San Diego had a hothouse full of mRNA vax edible plants recently. I don’t know what happened to those plants but the technology is advancing rapidly. I have put a link with Tom Renz, the attorney fighting back on originally Military mandates but he is calling attention to this issue now as well.
They already are. Its called 'Sequivity'. Now you need to check out the natural local farms for untainted meat. Some companies do state their farmers do not use it.
Sounds like the Gates of Hell. It's annoying that billionaires not only use their ill-gotten gains to feed their insatiable egos, but they also try to assuage their guilt by trying to force people to accept their twisted schemes to "save the planet".
Plants may best be viewed as medicines... Someday soon I may further dial down the cooked green vegetables and further dial up the beef, lamb, and butter.
First I want to tackle fasting well beyond 16 hours, which is all I've been doing so far.
It's really disturbing if lettuce is just the tip of the iceberg of adulterating our food supply!
Seriously, I hope organic food is spared, though I know that man-made badness can be spread by the wind, regardless of whether it's intentional or not.
They only seem difficult because of marketing, which has convinced us we need to eat this crap. Once you see, amd admit, that we’re victims of marketing (propaganda), it becomes easier.
What laypeople will not understand, but need to, is that HVAC effectively worsens the conditions that might promote propagation by increasing aerosolization and then distributing aerosolized particles. It’s not just bad for virions, it’s just poorer air quality all around. The reason the systems are designed the way they are is to conserve heating and cooling energy.
Which brings us to the practical reason why this set of recommendations is absolutely ridiculous. Introducing filters (especially very tight ones) and greater amounts of outside air will mean that the overwhelming majority of systems will need to be replaced. This is because heating and cooling capacity of a system is designed around airflow rates and energy input to accomplish heating and cooling. More filtration reduces flow rate dramatically. More outside air means you need to cool or heat the outside air before it gets introduced to the system, fundamentally increasing energy input (dramatically). Even small amounts of increase in outside air into the mix has huge effect.
Virtually every system in existing buildings will not have sufficient heating or cooling capacity. And that means replacing the big equipment pieces, and likely increasing number of pieces. More condensers, more air handlers, more heat exchangers, more roof top units, it goes on and on.
And the benefit of this for people? Hardly anything. This will just line the pockets of the HVAC manufacturers, the engineers paid to design retrofits, and give the CDC cover in their pretend game to ‘protect public health’.
So basically the same people yelling about energy efficiency and climate change are, once again, doing something ridiculous that is not at all energy efficient and, according to their worldview, will make the alleged climate change worse.
After 1918 this happened too, for new public spaces. My region (NE Ohio, Lake Erie coast) had/has many of these buildings where Air Exchanges were high but without active recirculation/filtration. One hundred percent of mechanically drawn in air was fresh. This can be seen in old schools where the classroom heater pulls outdoor air. This may actually work for pathogen removal. A local 1927 theater I worked with had steam radiators on the perimeter but the giant Scirroco blower in the basement pulled outdoor air through the biggest nested steam heated iron waffles I’ve ever seen and distributed the air under the auditorium seating. A single pass. Fantastic indoor air quality. You’d walk into the front entrance greeted with a breeze from the positive pressure indoors. Horrendously costly to run. Same with the air conditioning installed in 1950. No recirc. Breathtaking utility costs. The 70s energy crisis repealed those regs. All the schools built that way were demolished by the State government 20 years ago with new inflatable ones in their place. I presume this is part of the plan – first hit the public sector to “upgrade” at outrageous cost to the taxpayer. With a filtration/ heat recovery system so obtuse it won’t work for long, if at all. Probably not at all for reasons Igor points out.
PS what’s wrong with shielded UV wall sconces like one can find in 1920s - 30s hospital supply catalogs? They proved to reduce transmission. Probably too cheap. Mandates have to hurt, don’t-you-know
Yes, this is the opposite of energy efficiency. Even new buildings with this kind of basis of design will consume double or triple the energy for heating, cooling, and ventilation.
Natural immune system health is still the cheapest and most effective strategy. ASHRAE knows nothing about immune health. They are people who look at problems as engineering equations and formulas. Completely hair-brained.
YES RFKjr’s Defender covered the HVAC scam about a year ago, noting that various aerosolized solutions would be pumped into the lungs of helpless children. What will happen when they develop cancer in increasing numbers? Big pharmaceutical will sell cures, including more chemicals pumped through HVAC systems.
TFish’s comment would apply to both old and new buildings. Retrofitting old buildings is likely more expensive than fitting extra equipment to new build during construction but still more expensive in both cases. The extra energy usage remains with the building for the rest of the building’s useful life. The recommendations by CDC and ASHRAE sound good in principal but they are simplistic, expensive and unlikely to make any noticeable difference.
How about a randomized control trial?
Retrofit every second floor (or some other ratio) of an open plan high rise office block and see if it makes any difference.
Such a trial would be a farce. Most of these kinds of structures utilize centralized systems. So any retrofit would essentially replace the existing system, except perhaps the ductwork and distribution systems (maybe). The end effect is essentially still likely doubling of heating/cooling equipment at minimum, with corresponding increase in energy expense.
It’s not a viable path and will not help anything.
All of these systems will dehumidify the air, resulting in more aerosolized particles which will remain suspended for much much longer periods.
The healthiest places have always been taking advantage of natural ventilation. This isn’t always practical in heavy heating or cooling climates, however.
I agree it would have little to no effect and drive up energy use.
Not sure how office blocks are set up in the US but hear in Australia the typical office block has a common fresh air shaft for multiple floors, one to four AHUs per floor with VAV boxes out in the space. So you can get pretty good isolation between floors. The use of isolated zones helps the smoke exhaust system prevent smoke spreading between floors in a fire. It’s a bit more complicated than that as the smoke exhaust system also uses differences in pressure and reconfiguration of some of the air paths but essentially the air zone are pretty much isolated by floor in a typical office tower even in normal operation so you could run a trial and randomized by floor level.
Occupant comfort using 100% outside air on a Sydney design day 94 deg F DB, 74 deg F WB ain’t going to happen with existing plant. New plant and equipment probably wouldn’t even fit in the available space. Imagine telling a commercial landlord that not only will they have to pay for the additional capital cost of the new plant and equipment but they will also have to reduce their leased area (income) to make make way for bigger plantrooms and use more energy. This ain’t going to happen except for possibly government owned building were they don’t have any commercial constraints. The more you look into it the dumber it gets. All most all commercial buildings are designed to maximize lease area and minimize energy use by using maximum recirculation of the air on hot or cold days. They’re probably already using maximum ventilation (free cooling/heating) when it’s available in swing seasons. There is no free lunch except for HVAC consultants and contractors.
AHUs and VAVs aren’t going to affect overall cooling or heating load. Increasing outdoor air exchange is going to tax the capacity of the system overall. Fresh air intake is very often upstream of area isolation, which is typically an aspect of the distribution system.
Big towers and large buildings using systems like cooling towers or other large scale systems are dead on arrival. Mechanical space planning is designed to be efficient, not scalable by 200+%.
Agreed it’s a huge financial burden. The fact that ASHRAE is in on this means this will likely become part of the Mechnical Code, enshrining stupidity into building design.
Your correct in regards to the VAVs not affecting the cooling loads but the AHUs and would be mostly were all the ventilation changes take place at least in any systems I’ve retrofitted with energy upgrades. It’s where the return air mixes with the outside air and meets the main fan driving air flow into the space so this is where I’d expect most of the changes to take place. It gets more stupid the more I think about it. It can be done, it’s not even that hard. I can think of a few ways to do it but they all involve increasing flows or changing temperatures beyond what was originally intended. There isn’t much headroom in a well designed system most are close to the upper limit both electrically and mechanically in the interests of energy efficiency, space and original build costs (value engineered 😀). Even if you used enthalpy exchange units to recover energy from the exhaust air (they won’t fit in most of the plantrooms I’ve come across) it’s a lot of added complexity for for little or no gain. Upsizing the main plant would be a nightmare in most of the buildings I’m familiar with.
If ASHRAE are on it, it will also mean it will get incorporated into codes worldwide, for all their faults, they are still the leading authority when it comes to HVAC best practice.
Maybe, I need to look into this some more. I smell an income opportunity. 😀
I used to be heavily involved in this sort of stuff (energy efficiency upgrades) when I worked for a major multi national building controls company. I’m a bit out date with the current trends in the space but there aren't too many different ways to combine HVAC pumps, fans, coils, valves, dampers, ducts compressors and heat exchangers. I’m sure I could get back up to speed in no time.
Always a pleasure to go with you into the weeds on any given topic. 👍
We get HCQ and IVM taken away as a choice because we don't have RCTs "proving" that they work (even though we do). But masks, forced jabs, lockdowns, and now this. NONE "proven" to work, and quite the opposite.
Is natural immunity still a conspiracy theory, or has that returned to the "scientific consensus"?
Just when you think the grifting cannot get any worse..... but hey, the HVAC industry waited patiently, they deserve to make excess profits off of Covid too!
The latest attempt to bring kids into the fray of this is claiming they are all being subjected to Long Covid. Long Covid which now has so many symptoms you could make it synonymous with "side effects of living."
I am willing to entertain Long Covid, but using Queensbury rules, we should also investigate vaccination as well. I think people are having symptoms, just that Covid might not be the culprit. Especially in regards to "Fatigue" and "Brain Fog." Yes, Covid could cause that, as it is a symptom of recovering from a disease. How many of us have heard someone recovering from a disease say "I am still not at 100%." And yet we act as if this is new in regards to Covid.
Or it could be depression and a symptom of those with mass formation. I think when cognitive dissonance continues, the amouht of mental calculations that go on to convince yourself that a pandemic is still dangerous drains the life out of you.
Not to mention that a lot of people have just abandoned positive thinking.
It’s a perfect bioweapon. It does not prevent you from getting CoVid and perhaps makes you more susceptible to it, then the side effects from the injection are obfuscated and blamed on COVID- so you line up for your next shot.
Does any know anyone who is unvaccinated and has "long Covid"? I have not seen any of the researchers or doctors who we trust say that Long Covid is a thing. They usually say it appears to be a side effect of the vaccine. Yes thanks to the vaccine, people have virus spike proteins passing through the blood brain barrier. This is not something that would happen with a respiratory virus. The body will contain the respiratory infection to the respiratory system.
I suppose perhaps it depends on the definition of long covid.
I can assure you that even the unvaxed can experience very prolonged symptoms, including extreme fatigue and very dark depression. I sailed through 3-4 days of acute illness, had early treatment, good vitamin D levels, etc. A week or so later, bam, the awful, prolonged effects hit. Lasted at least 4-6 weeks and improved with homeopathy, praise God.
Another unvaxed person I know had similar, minus the depression. Extreme fatigue, persistent bronchospastic cough. For multiple weeks.
I've been thinking on this as well. What do you think the odds are that someone suffering from "Long Covid" is vaccinated? I would say it's probably around 100%. Because if you believe in Long Covid, you obviously believe the narrative.
I had some of the symptoms associated with Long Covid, but I've had them before the virus as well, hence why I call it "Long Diabetes." Blood sugar fluctuations also cause fatique and brain fog. Also being isolated in your house for days on end can cause depression...
Actually it is a thing. I experienced it, along with another person I know. And we eat clean, have great vitamin D levels, did all the early treatment, etc.
Now, I also absolutely believe that jab injuries are being erroneously blamed on long covid.
I am talking to a teacher on twitter who is assuring me there was no panic that stimulated the mitigation techniques employed during the pandemic. When I went through why all the mitigation efforts were ridiculous and ineffective she then spouted the narrative line about how dangerous covid was to children, to teachers, social workers, cafeteria workers...and when I pointed out "there, that is the panic I was talking about" she said I was gaslighting her...which is what she'd been doing when she claimed the mitigation measures were not based on panic.
The problem with a lot of this thinking is it is based on "feelings." Remember Walensky used feelings as her guide as to why her son couldn't go to summer camp, and she got her masking instructions from CNN, but hey she wasn't actually sworn in as the CDC director so "Let's keep on keeping on with the insanity"
Sorry that your kids had to endure a terrible mother, but am glad she is now the ex Mrs. Swanson. How is the canoe woodworking going?
Sadly, making poor decisions based on “feelings” is a hallmark of women in the workforce. <Don’t hate me for my strong belief -- backed up by evidence -- that women should stay home, raise their children themselves, and serve their families>
As women, we were created with nurturing hearts -- hearts full of feeling and intuition. This characteristic does NOT translate well to high-powered careers and the attitude required to “succeed with the men” 🙄
It’s ridiculous how so many women insist on a career at the expense of the areas in which they could TRULY shine and excel. Feminism is a dark, deeply demented ideology that has infected almost everything.
I’m not saying women aren’t intelligent, etc., but I’m sure right-thinking people reading this know that.
Speaking of feelings...my heart hurts for what she likely put you through, Ron. It seems you’re well on the other side of that now, thank the Lord. Please remember, we aren’t all like that. Some of us (too few, tragically) love men, their unique talents, and choose to honor the men in our lives. Long live the patriarchy, for without it, I wouldn’t have this gloriously beautiful life I’m living! 💗
Adam Carolla has a not so PC way of presenting this. He calls it "chick think." But this isn't a gender thing. He would be the first to tell you there are a lot of us men out there that think this way.
Sure, women generally, probably by one or two standard deviations, have this more, but this tendency exists in all of us. One of the reasons why women might have this more is because we wouldn't survive otherwise. A mom nurtures and offers grace in spite of a child's failures and problems. A child can be horrible, petulent, rebellious, entitled, selfish, and just downright mean A dad is usually the one who steps in and says "this s has got to stop now. He's usually the one who gives the brother back the toy the other brother took, or sent the kid to his room for talking smack to his mom.
For us men, feelings are expressed in gambling and poor decisions in substance abuse. Also we translate it into poor impulse control such as fighting and indulging in high risk behavior. The point I was trying to make is that in reality it doesn't matter who is behind it...but that it needs to stop. If there is such a thing as toxic masculinity (and there is) then there also is toxic femininity. Or maybe a better way of putting it is gender based overreaction without balance. We need both sides, the male side that is supposed to proceed to do pragmatic things in spite of feelings, and women who are there to make sure the voiceless are heard and are not run over without thought, and that all voices are heard, which also is a pragmatic. Whsat kind of society would we be living in if we don't listen to those who either have no voice, or have not developed on to speak for themselves?
The objective is not to change her mind. That train has long left the station. A teacher is in the "suck zone" of indoctrination. But anything we can do to question, disrupt, interrupt, or otherwise interfere with their scrolling through the echo chamber of acceptable opinion...will have returns to them.
How many of us have had an abusive relationship with our government over the past three years....longer actually?
I'm pretty sure airplanes have a higher air exchange rate than 5/hour being advocated by these rules. And yet, that didn't matter, we were all forced to wear stupid not effective masks in airplanes all the time with abusive power hungry stewardesses to yell at us, or worse.
UVC lamps for ducts are not expensive and do reduce pathogens, a very cheap intervention that works for all viruses (help reduce flu incidences). If adding HEPA filters, that would also help reduce a lot of allergy ills too. I don't know why the governments didn't advocate doing this.
I went to elementary & secondary school a long time ago. We did not have air-conditioning - we had a wall of operable windows in every classroom. Heat was provided by hot water radiators that did not have air ducts and did not move air around the building. Fresh air was abundant, even some in the winter.
Opening windows is a bit difficult in a modern high rise office block or large public building. You’d need to retrofit windows that open and in some cases even extra windows.
Hello Again. Interesting article about air flow. As an engineer, and later on in life as an MD, causes me to think differently about various issues. Your article is educational and pertinent. Thanks for the article.
More government overreach. The incompetent CDC is now in the HVAC business? OMG, what will our crazy government do next. I am ready to scream from the government incompetence I see everyday.
OMGOSH!!! It truly never ends. And you MUST know what’s down the line...after the buildings have all be retrofitted, right? It’s residential properties! Yayyy! 🤢
Yes I’ve heard rumblings from the WEF cabal and un agenda 2030 of mandated energy retrofits to residences so severe that homeowners will either lose the home (at a fire sale price) or be stuck with a stranded asset they can’t use or sell. Higher priced areas will likely wind up in the ownership of blackrock and lower will involve a buyout of some kind, people being forced into smart cities.
Well, Klaus did promise You Will Own Nothing (and they will own everything)
No doubt. Hopefully, when we get out to our acreage in Idaho, we’ll be insulated enough from this craziness to stave off the worst of it -- at least for a time.
“All of the above measures had one thing in common: they were adopted without proof that they would stop the transmission of COVID-19. Another thing they had in common was that they did not work.
The people begging for the measures to be enacted often displayed magical thinking, expecting their favored measure to work like magic sticks, whereas, at most, they would only slightly slow down the inevitable.”
Magical thinking indeed. Something is better than nothing!!!
Irene, all of these crisis and solutions are brought to us and enabled by the global fiat money system that is based on nothing. corporations have learned well how to become attached to the feeding troughs of big government.
Centers for Death and Chaos: Facemask all the fecking buildings so we can get HVAC kickbacks.
Me: Don’t just do something, stand there.
"Don’t just do something, stand there." is a corollary of the Hippocratic Oath.
"Never let a crisis go to waste." is a corollary of the Hypocrites Oath.
I think the medical motto for Covid was : First, do harm.
In the mortal words of George Dubya Bush, "Mission accomplished!"
The latter is exactly the same thing as the military-industrial-complex that Ike warned us about.
The Hippocratic Oath is not a political statement ; it is a moral statement: “First, do no harm.”
Nah, the HVAC crew isn't giving kickbacks, they are being primed for the future, when they might be relied upon for setting up toxic ventilation for FEMA camps, Quarantine camps, Reeducation camps, Detainment camps, .... Extermination Camps !! This will be extra-lucrative for them too, but they must be prepped and plied first. lol
I know nothing about your specialty, but I smell the air from the room where I am not cooking flow through from the kitchen. That goes for several houses where I helped out as well. So indeed, no air filter, no airco, can keep the germs from spreading. Best thing is to open all windows and doors and let fresh air in!
Fresh air is awesome. Unfortunately in some beautiful places there's an overabundance of pollen certain times of the year, in which case air filters really help those with allergies.
Do any of you ever go for a walk in fresh air only to be assaulted by fragrant dryer pads overwhelming the fresh air as the chemical ‘fragrance’ billows from the neighbors’ homes dryer vents?
It’s a legal but annoying form of air pollution imho.
Luckily I currently live in an area with lots of conservation land, but I do recall walking on one path where there seemed to be an artificial fragrance wafting from a nearby house.
We live in the country, on our own 27 acres of wooded land. When walking on the path in our woods, we often smell the toxic, fake fragrance from a neighbor’s dryer vent, depending on the wind direction that day. We stopped buying fabric softener years ago…plain vinegar is better…cheaper, no toxic chemicals or disgusting smells; laundry comes out smelling like nothing - as it should.
this year the pollen all came at once here in GA. Usually the pines are first, then come the oaks. I have both in my yard and my car looked like a molded cheese! Luckily I am not too bothered by them.
Make sure you save all that pollen. Klaus the Louse Schwab wants you to eat it with the bugs.
hahaha that might make them look more appetizing or so?
Actually, pollen is an ancient Chinese adaptogen, bee pollen in honey from the locale around you, and expensive honey products often contain it, although Klaus the Hideous suffocating in a vat of it would certainly be tragic. May 15 here and I've seen one bumblebee and one other bee only. No mosquitos, hardly any black flies, no butterflies. It is eerie.
Yes, pollen has some medicinal properties.
I am happy to report that so far this spring from my front door, I've seen bumblebees buzzing, mama birds feeding their hatchlings, deer grazing, a giant coyote prowling(!), turkeys strutting, squirrels climbing and scurrying... The pollen onslaught has just begun...
try THIS on for size...cut out Dairy & be pleasantly surprised, as was this now ex-allergic & happily kleenex-less ol'mechanic...eg., thesun.co.uk/fabulous/health-and-fitness/15355854/five-foods-to-cut-out-for-hay-fever-sufferers/ Think about it- pollen,dust, pet dander,etc= neverending torture. Bottom line, you can't shut out all that stuff, but you can control your body's reaction/immune system to it by cleaning up the fuel/food you consume. easy-peasy
Thanks! That advice is nothing to sneeze at. :-)
About 30 years ago I found out which foods on the list gave me the most trouble: certain cheeses, most nightshades, and coffee. Eliminating those was a life-saver! Much more recently I've eliminated the sweets, certain fruits, most of the tiny amount of alcohol I had been consuming, and certain nuts. Eliminating those has significantly improved my quality of life.
So far I've been happily consuming the fattiest dairy: ghee, butter, heavy cream, crème fraîche, extra cream plain yogurts...
Is fresh air really fresh? Chemtrails all over the place.
To quote the immoral words of Bill Clinton, it depends on the definition of "is".
Seriously, humans can tolerate a certain amount of biological and chemical junk in the air, many buildings have worse air inside than out, and we should all strive to reduce indoor and outdoor pollution and improve our immune systems.
to think of all the chemicals most people use to clean with ! I haven't cleaned with anything but peroxide and vinegar in years. I avoid spraying for bugs, although not always possible. I especially dislike these home perfumes, most I am allergic to.
People don’t realize that all those toxic fragrances have to be processed by their liver. I can’t stand going down certain aisles in the grocery store. If one’s home is clean, no fake fragrances needed.
cannot go in the aisles with that stuff, trying to buy the only washing powder I can use at dollar stores where there is a less massive amount. Get nauseated in these aisles !
Why is no one in Congress or the media explaining this chemtrail thing to the common man ?
Why do they let it continue.?
Are there no more Statesmen anywhere to be found ???
I've only known India to recommend that.
Achieving excellence in building ventilation is an appropriate goal for new buildings and for buildings with major renovations. For other buildings, the ROI may not justify the changes.
The best way to avoid avoid metabolic syndrome, related chronic diseases, and Covid is:
1) Eat real food, including plenty of animal-based products and natural oils (like ghee and olive oil).
2) Avoid sugar, corn syrup, and most other natural and artificial sweeteners.
3) Avoid processed foods, especially processed carbs and seed/vegetable oils.
4) Stop snacking and investigate intermittent fasting.
5) Get plenty of fresh air and sunshine, while avoiding sunburn.
6) Exercise moderately.
7) Sleep long enough each night.
8) Find non-drug and non-alcohol stress coping mechanisms that work for you.
9) Pray.
10) Communicate with friends.
These items are proven to have beneficial effects and beneficial side-effects, though they are quite unhealthy for the profits of Big Farma and Big Pharma.
#2, 3, & 4 are the toughest! Though if you could manage 2 and 3, 4 would probably come pretty easily.
Once eating lots of natural fat (butter on veggies, bacon, cheese, cream, non-lean beef, etc), intermittent fasting becomes a lot easier.
I used to think I would NEVER be able to fast, but once I changed my diet, I was able to do so.
I've been Carnivore since 2019, i doing so, I reversed ALL my " you're getting about that age" at 61, I still take ZERO McPharma drugs. I eat between 1 - 1.5 lbs a day
I could never imagine before that by eliminating everything but red meat would give me excellent Health.
That's great.
The young person in our home was recently casually discussing going carnivore, due to some health stuff. But after I made liver, which this young person eagerly consumed and had second helpings (‼️‼️‼️), this young person also decided carnivore was too difficult, as the liver really wasn't THAT good. Haha.
We eat mostly meat (but not truly nose to tail), veggies, and some fruits. Have eaten this way for several years, although the young person and I occasionally eat a few other things as well. For example, on road trips.
It's a great way to eat. Although frankly, it also is currently incredibly frustrating to be HAVING to adhere so religiously to this way of eating due to aforementioned health concerns. New concerns arose several months ago so we've severely tightened up the diet. 😩 No young person (or older adult, actually, but especially a child) should have a state of health that obliges them to religiously forego the very occasional convenience of grabbing a burger at a fast food place (with bun), or eating the hot dog and chips at the youth camp out. Sigh. We are hoping the current restrictions are temporary.
Our government continues poisoning us through so many venues - geoengineering, glyphosate, injections (which we no longer take but got as babies), EMFs and the ghastly towers everywhere, and so on. It never used to be so hard to feel well.
Oooo, helpful ideas.
If you want info about this way of eating, check out Dr Jason Fung’s book Obesity Code, whether you are overweight or not. Highly recommend.
I had quite a sweet-tooth, but ever since I went keto, I've found that I enjoy almost any food without added sauces or flavorings, even kale, which I used to dislike.
Kale! Being able to tolerate or even enjoy kale is the ultimate sign that you've subjugated the natural taste sense to your will. Liking kale is not natural, it requires hypnotizing your tongue.
No, not really. It's still at the very bottom of the list of foods that I regularly consume. Something that is particularly delicious to me these days is high-fat ground beef or ground-pork cooked with a little bit of onions. Poached eggs, bacon, prosciutto, Peking duck, other duck, pork belly, fatty steaks, lamb chops...always taste great too.
I was told that coconut oil was super, but some jars of it made my food taste good and others made it taste bad, so I've switched to ghee, preferably grass-fed, which reliably tastes so much better.
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Swine have been injected with mRNA vaccine for at least two years. Bill Gates wants to inject cattle next, very soon. Epoch Times has a two part documentary about this. What they don’t cover is that San Diego had a hothouse full of mRNA vax edible plants recently. I don’t know what happened to those plants but the technology is advancing rapidly. I have put a link with Tom Renz, the attorney fighting back on originally Military mandates but he is calling attention to this issue now as well.
They already are. Its called 'Sequivity'. Now you need to check out the natural local farms for untainted meat. Some companies do state their farmers do not use it.
Sounds like the Gates of Hell. It's annoying that billionaires not only use their ill-gotten gains to feed their insatiable egos, but they also try to assuage their guilt by trying to force people to accept their twisted schemes to "save the planet".
Kale is best used for lining the dividers between the other vegetables at the grocery store.
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Kale is full of toxins.
Yeah, though less than spinach (see https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/kale-vs-spinach#kale).
Plants may best be viewed as medicines... Someday soon I may further dial down the cooked green vegetables and further dial up the beef, lamb, and butter.
First I want to tackle fasting well beyond 16 hours, which is all I've been doing so far.
Soak you veg and fruit in a solution of baking soda or vineger and water.
It get rid of alot of posions they spray on them. However there is no getting mrna out of them. I hear lettice is already gmo.
It's really disturbing if lettuce is just the tip of the iceberg of adulterating our food supply!
Seriously, I hope organic food is spared, though I know that man-made badness can be spread by the wind, regardless of whether it's intentional or not.
They only seem difficult because of marketing, which has convinced us we need to eat this crap. Once you see, amd admit, that we’re victims of marketing (propaganda), it becomes easier.
What laypeople will not understand, but need to, is that HVAC effectively worsens the conditions that might promote propagation by increasing aerosolization and then distributing aerosolized particles. It’s not just bad for virions, it’s just poorer air quality all around. The reason the systems are designed the way they are is to conserve heating and cooling energy.
Which brings us to the practical reason why this set of recommendations is absolutely ridiculous. Introducing filters (especially very tight ones) and greater amounts of outside air will mean that the overwhelming majority of systems will need to be replaced. This is because heating and cooling capacity of a system is designed around airflow rates and energy input to accomplish heating and cooling. More filtration reduces flow rate dramatically. More outside air means you need to cool or heat the outside air before it gets introduced to the system, fundamentally increasing energy input (dramatically). Even small amounts of increase in outside air into the mix has huge effect.
Virtually every system in existing buildings will not have sufficient heating or cooling capacity. And that means replacing the big equipment pieces, and likely increasing number of pieces. More condensers, more air handlers, more heat exchangers, more roof top units, it goes on and on.
And the benefit of this for people? Hardly anything. This will just line the pockets of the HVAC manufacturers, the engineers paid to design retrofits, and give the CDC cover in their pretend game to ‘protect public health’.
It’s a farce. Don’t believe a bit of it.
So basically the same people yelling about energy efficiency and climate change are, once again, doing something ridiculous that is not at all energy efficient and, according to their worldview, will make the alleged climate change worse.
After 1918 this happened too, for new public spaces. My region (NE Ohio, Lake Erie coast) had/has many of these buildings where Air Exchanges were high but without active recirculation/filtration. One hundred percent of mechanically drawn in air was fresh. This can be seen in old schools where the classroom heater pulls outdoor air. This may actually work for pathogen removal. A local 1927 theater I worked with had steam radiators on the perimeter but the giant Scirroco blower in the basement pulled outdoor air through the biggest nested steam heated iron waffles I’ve ever seen and distributed the air under the auditorium seating. A single pass. Fantastic indoor air quality. You’d walk into the front entrance greeted with a breeze from the positive pressure indoors. Horrendously costly to run. Same with the air conditioning installed in 1950. No recirc. Breathtaking utility costs. The 70s energy crisis repealed those regs. All the schools built that way were demolished by the State government 20 years ago with new inflatable ones in their place. I presume this is part of the plan – first hit the public sector to “upgrade” at outrageous cost to the taxpayer. With a filtration/ heat recovery system so obtuse it won’t work for long, if at all. Probably not at all for reasons Igor points out.
PS what’s wrong with shielded UV wall sconces like one can find in 1920s - 30s hospital supply catalogs? They proved to reduce transmission. Probably too cheap. Mandates have to hurt, don’t-you-know
Yes, this is the opposite of energy efficiency. Even new buildings with this kind of basis of design will consume double or triple the energy for heating, cooling, and ventilation.
Natural immune system health is still the cheapest and most effective strategy. ASHRAE knows nothing about immune health. They are people who look at problems as engineering equations and formulas. Completely hair-brained.
Cimate emergency/change is all lies.
It will use more power, which would seem to be at odds with the "green" goals the administration is imposing everywhere else.
YES RFKjr’s Defender covered the HVAC scam about a year ago, noting that various aerosolized solutions would be pumped into the lungs of helpless children. What will happen when they develop cancer in increasing numbers? Big pharmaceutical will sell cures, including more chemicals pumped through HVAC systems.
TFish’s comment would apply to both old and new buildings. Retrofitting old buildings is likely more expensive than fitting extra equipment to new build during construction but still more expensive in both cases. The extra energy usage remains with the building for the rest of the building’s useful life. The recommendations by CDC and ASHRAE sound good in principal but they are simplistic, expensive and unlikely to make any noticeable difference.
How about a randomized control trial?
Retrofit every second floor (or some other ratio) of an open plan high rise office block and see if it makes any difference.
Such a trial would be a farce. Most of these kinds of structures utilize centralized systems. So any retrofit would essentially replace the existing system, except perhaps the ductwork and distribution systems (maybe). The end effect is essentially still likely doubling of heating/cooling equipment at minimum, with corresponding increase in energy expense.
It’s not a viable path and will not help anything.
All of these systems will dehumidify the air, resulting in more aerosolized particles which will remain suspended for much much longer periods.
The healthiest places have always been taking advantage of natural ventilation. This isn’t always practical in heavy heating or cooling climates, however.
I agree it would have little to no effect and drive up energy use.
Not sure how office blocks are set up in the US but hear in Australia the typical office block has a common fresh air shaft for multiple floors, one to four AHUs per floor with VAV boxes out in the space. So you can get pretty good isolation between floors. The use of isolated zones helps the smoke exhaust system prevent smoke spreading between floors in a fire. It’s a bit more complicated than that as the smoke exhaust system also uses differences in pressure and reconfiguration of some of the air paths but essentially the air zone are pretty much isolated by floor in a typical office tower even in normal operation so you could run a trial and randomized by floor level.
Occupant comfort using 100% outside air on a Sydney design day 94 deg F DB, 74 deg F WB ain’t going to happen with existing plant. New plant and equipment probably wouldn’t even fit in the available space. Imagine telling a commercial landlord that not only will they have to pay for the additional capital cost of the new plant and equipment but they will also have to reduce their leased area (income) to make make way for bigger plantrooms and use more energy. This ain’t going to happen except for possibly government owned building were they don’t have any commercial constraints. The more you look into it the dumber it gets. All most all commercial buildings are designed to maximize lease area and minimize energy use by using maximum recirculation of the air on hot or cold days. They’re probably already using maximum ventilation (free cooling/heating) when it’s available in swing seasons. There is no free lunch except for HVAC consultants and contractors.
AHUs and VAVs aren’t going to affect overall cooling or heating load. Increasing outdoor air exchange is going to tax the capacity of the system overall. Fresh air intake is very often upstream of area isolation, which is typically an aspect of the distribution system.
Big towers and large buildings using systems like cooling towers or other large scale systems are dead on arrival. Mechanical space planning is designed to be efficient, not scalable by 200+%.
Agreed it’s a huge financial burden. The fact that ASHRAE is in on this means this will likely become part of the Mechnical Code, enshrining stupidity into building design.
Your correct in regards to the VAVs not affecting the cooling loads but the AHUs and would be mostly were all the ventilation changes take place at least in any systems I’ve retrofitted with energy upgrades. It’s where the return air mixes with the outside air and meets the main fan driving air flow into the space so this is where I’d expect most of the changes to take place. It gets more stupid the more I think about it. It can be done, it’s not even that hard. I can think of a few ways to do it but they all involve increasing flows or changing temperatures beyond what was originally intended. There isn’t much headroom in a well designed system most are close to the upper limit both electrically and mechanically in the interests of energy efficiency, space and original build costs (value engineered 😀). Even if you used enthalpy exchange units to recover energy from the exhaust air (they won’t fit in most of the plantrooms I’ve come across) it’s a lot of added complexity for for little or no gain. Upsizing the main plant would be a nightmare in most of the buildings I’m familiar with.
If ASHRAE are on it, it will also mean it will get incorporated into codes worldwide, for all their faults, they are still the leading authority when it comes to HVAC best practice.
Maybe, I need to look into this some more. I smell an income opportunity. 😀
I used to be heavily involved in this sort of stuff (energy efficiency upgrades) when I worked for a major multi national building controls company. I’m a bit out date with the current trends in the space but there aren't too many different ways to combine HVAC pumps, fans, coils, valves, dampers, ducts compressors and heat exchangers. I’m sure I could get back up to speed in no time.
Always a pleasure to go with you into the weeds on any given topic. 👍
We get HCQ and IVM taken away as a choice because we don't have RCTs "proving" that they work (even though we do). But masks, forced jabs, lockdowns, and now this. NONE "proven" to work, and quite the opposite.
Is natural immunity still a conspiracy theory, or has that returned to the "scientific consensus"?
Just when you think the grifting cannot get any worse..... but hey, the HVAC industry waited patiently, they deserve to make excess profits off of Covid too!
Why bother? No one is going back to the office. 😜😜
Because they are either sick, dying or dead
The latest attempt to bring kids into the fray of this is claiming they are all being subjected to Long Covid. Long Covid which now has so many symptoms you could make it synonymous with "side effects of living."
Long COVID symptoms cover all vaccine side effects, just to be on the safe side😉
Myocarditis? Long Covid. Blood Clots? Long Covid. Fatigue and Brain fog, Long Covid. Turbo Cancer: Long Covid.
exactly. I don't think "long covid" is a thing at all. Not to mention the fact that covid isn't an issue to begin with.
I am willing to entertain Long Covid, but using Queensbury rules, we should also investigate vaccination as well. I think people are having symptoms, just that Covid might not be the culprit. Especially in regards to "Fatigue" and "Brain Fog." Yes, Covid could cause that, as it is a symptom of recovering from a disease. How many of us have heard someone recovering from a disease say "I am still not at 100%." And yet we act as if this is new in regards to Covid.
Or it could be depression and a symptom of those with mass formation. I think when cognitive dissonance continues, the amouht of mental calculations that go on to convince yourself that a pandemic is still dangerous drains the life out of you.
Not to mention that a lot of people have just abandoned positive thinking.
It’s a perfect bioweapon. It does not prevent you from getting CoVid and perhaps makes you more susceptible to it, then the side effects from the injection are obfuscated and blamed on COVID- so you line up for your next shot.
Does any know anyone who is unvaccinated and has "long Covid"? I have not seen any of the researchers or doctors who we trust say that Long Covid is a thing. They usually say it appears to be a side effect of the vaccine. Yes thanks to the vaccine, people have virus spike proteins passing through the blood brain barrier. This is not something that would happen with a respiratory virus. The body will contain the respiratory infection to the respiratory system.
I suppose perhaps it depends on the definition of long covid.
I can assure you that even the unvaxed can experience very prolonged symptoms, including extreme fatigue and very dark depression. I sailed through 3-4 days of acute illness, had early treatment, good vitamin D levels, etc. A week or so later, bam, the awful, prolonged effects hit. Lasted at least 4-6 weeks and improved with homeopathy, praise God.
Another unvaxed person I know had similar, minus the depression. Extreme fatigue, persistent bronchospastic cough. For multiple weeks.
I've been thinking on this as well. What do you think the odds are that someone suffering from "Long Covid" is vaccinated? I would say it's probably around 100%. Because if you believe in Long Covid, you obviously believe the narrative.
I had some of the symptoms associated with Long Covid, but I've had them before the virus as well, hence why I call it "Long Diabetes." Blood sugar fluctuations also cause fatique and brain fog. Also being isolated in your house for days on end can cause depression...
Actually it is a thing. I experienced it, along with another person I know. And we eat clean, have great vitamin D levels, did all the early treatment, etc.
Now, I also absolutely believe that jab injuries are being erroneously blamed on long covid.
There is no Covid as I just told a doctor so long Covid? I agree with you.
A proper diet for human beings is likely to mitigate Long Covid and many of the "side effects of [modern] living."
I am talking to a teacher on twitter who is assuring me there was no panic that stimulated the mitigation techniques employed during the pandemic. When I went through why all the mitigation efforts were ridiculous and ineffective she then spouted the narrative line about how dangerous covid was to children, to teachers, social workers, cafeteria workers...and when I pointed out "there, that is the panic I was talking about" she said I was gaslighting her...which is what she'd been doing when she claimed the mitigation measures were not based on panic.
Sounds like my ex wife.
You cannot even have an adult conversation with insanity such as you have described. I know this all to well.
My ex also works for the city department of mental health...As a licensed clinician. A sick joke indeed.
They, in many cases, personally know the levers to local power in any given area and they aren’t afraid to let you know that.
From CPS to the cops she was covered.
Fortunately for me she is a terrible mother and I had a lawyer who a few years later got a judge appointment from our Governor.
The problem with a lot of this thinking is it is based on "feelings." Remember Walensky used feelings as her guide as to why her son couldn't go to summer camp, and she got her masking instructions from CNN, but hey she wasn't actually sworn in as the CDC director so "Let's keep on keeping on with the insanity"
Sorry that your kids had to endure a terrible mother, but am glad she is now the ex Mrs. Swanson. How is the canoe woodworking going?
Applied my final coat of varnish.
Sadly, making poor decisions based on “feelings” is a hallmark of women in the workforce. <Don’t hate me for my strong belief -- backed up by evidence -- that women should stay home, raise their children themselves, and serve their families>
As women, we were created with nurturing hearts -- hearts full of feeling and intuition. This characteristic does NOT translate well to high-powered careers and the attitude required to “succeed with the men” 🙄
It’s ridiculous how so many women insist on a career at the expense of the areas in which they could TRULY shine and excel. Feminism is a dark, deeply demented ideology that has infected almost everything.
I’m not saying women aren’t intelligent, etc., but I’m sure right-thinking people reading this know that.
Speaking of feelings...my heart hurts for what she likely put you through, Ron. It seems you’re well on the other side of that now, thank the Lord. Please remember, we aren’t all like that. Some of us (too few, tragically) love men, their unique talents, and choose to honor the men in our lives. Long live the patriarchy, for without it, I wouldn’t have this gloriously beautiful life I’m living! 💗
I'll take some of that hate on me.
Adam Carolla has a not so PC way of presenting this. He calls it "chick think." But this isn't a gender thing. He would be the first to tell you there are a lot of us men out there that think this way.
Sure, women generally, probably by one or two standard deviations, have this more, but this tendency exists in all of us. One of the reasons why women might have this more is because we wouldn't survive otherwise. A mom nurtures and offers grace in spite of a child's failures and problems. A child can be horrible, petulent, rebellious, entitled, selfish, and just downright mean A dad is usually the one who steps in and says "this s has got to stop now. He's usually the one who gives the brother back the toy the other brother took, or sent the kid to his room for talking smack to his mom.
For us men, feelings are expressed in gambling and poor decisions in substance abuse. Also we translate it into poor impulse control such as fighting and indulging in high risk behavior. The point I was trying to make is that in reality it doesn't matter who is behind it...but that it needs to stop. If there is such a thing as toxic masculinity (and there is) then there also is toxic femininity. Or maybe a better way of putting it is gender based overreaction without balance. We need both sides, the male side that is supposed to proceed to do pragmatic things in spite of feelings, and women who are there to make sure the voiceless are heard and are not run over without thought, and that all voices are heard, which also is a pragmatic. Whsat kind of society would we be living in if we don't listen to those who either have no voice, or have not developed on to speak for themselves?
Very well articulated.
She sounds fun
It was a delightful conversation that ended with her telling me "more gaslighting."
Thanks for trying!
The objective is not to change her mind. That train has long left the station. A teacher is in the "suck zone" of indoctrination. But anything we can do to question, disrupt, interrupt, or otherwise interfere with their scrolling through the echo chamber of acceptable opinion...will have returns to them.
How many of us have had an abusive relationship with our government over the past three years....longer actually?
Haha doesn’t she though? 🙄😂🙄
I'm pretty sure airplanes have a higher air exchange rate than 5/hour being advocated by these rules. And yet, that didn't matter, we were all forced to wear stupid not effective masks in airplanes all the time with abusive power hungry stewardesses to yell at us, or worse.
I was threatened with being put on a no-fly list
Why don't they advise ozonation, and UVC irradiation of ducts and ceiling space (above eye level even for tall people)?
I consider ozonation to be like using soap; it will do a great job to clean up the air, but it needs to be used carefully.
UVC lamps for ducts are not expensive and do reduce pathogens, a very cheap intervention that works for all viruses (help reduce flu incidences). If adding HEPA filters, that would also help reduce a lot of allergy ills too. I don't know why the governments didn't advocate doing this.
Whatever happened to opening windows for fresh air???
I went to elementary & secondary school a long time ago. We did not have air-conditioning - we had a wall of operable windows in every classroom. Heat was provided by hot water radiators that did not have air ducts and did not move air around the building. Fresh air was abundant, even some in the winter.
Opening windows is a bit difficult in a modern high rise office block or large public building. You’d need to retrofit windows that open and in some cases even extra windows.
How can people tolerate that? They have my sympathy, I am sorry for them.
Hello Again. Interesting article about air flow. As an engineer, and later on in life as an MD, causes me to think differently about various issues. Your article is educational and pertinent. Thanks for the article.
Regards,
Hugh
What an interesting career!
More government overreach. The incompetent CDC is now in the HVAC business? OMG, what will our crazy government do next. I am ready to scream from the government incompetence I see everyday.
As Washington elected officials privately invests in hvac related companies...
quick, check that twitter page that follows Pelosi's husband's investments- whatever HVAC company he invests in, that's the one to buy
Right?
OMGOSH!!! It truly never ends. And you MUST know what’s down the line...after the buildings have all be retrofitted, right? It’s residential properties! Yayyy! 🤢
Yes I’ve heard rumblings from the WEF cabal and un agenda 2030 of mandated energy retrofits to residences so severe that homeowners will either lose the home (at a fire sale price) or be stuck with a stranded asset they can’t use or sell. Higher priced areas will likely wind up in the ownership of blackrock and lower will involve a buyout of some kind, people being forced into smart cities.
Well, Klaus did promise You Will Own Nothing (and they will own everything)
No doubt. Hopefully, when we get out to our acreage in Idaho, we’ll be insulated enough from this craziness to stave off the worst of it -- at least for a time.
“All of the above measures had one thing in common: they were adopted without proof that they would stop the transmission of COVID-19. Another thing they had in common was that they did not work.
The people begging for the measures to be enacted often displayed magical thinking, expecting their favored measure to work like magic sticks, whereas, at most, they would only slightly slow down the inevitable.”
Magical thinking indeed. Something is better than nothing!!!
And yet nothing from nothing leaves nothing.
'Ya GOTTA have SUM'thin.....' B. Preston, 1974
Irene, all of these crisis and solutions are brought to us and enabled by the global fiat money system that is based on nothing. corporations have learned well how to become attached to the feeding troughs of big government.