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Leon's avatar

I know of several that I'd need to get more details for but one I can confirm definitively-

Date: 8/10/2021

Location: Australia

Relationship: younger brother

Age/gender/health: 30yo; Male; Healthy & active; no medications

Vax status: 2 doses of AZ- 3 weeks apart, 2nd dose 30/08/2021

Covid: Nil

Other: Died suddenly and unexpectedly in his sleep; Autopsy result: 'Unascertained natural causes'

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Leon, I am sorry for your loss, but I appreciate a GREAT exemplary response. I am pinning it to set an example.

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Charlotte's avatar

I’m so sorry about the loss of your younger brother. And so soon after the vax, that’s terrible.

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freelearner's avatar

I'm so sorry for your loss. My husband lost his younger brother years ago in a car accident and I truly feel for you. It will get easier, and I hope you are semi-okay.

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Katherine's avatar

I am so deeply sorry. This insanity must stop. May God help everyone during this time of such loss.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

So incredibly sad. There is a great youtube channel called the Grief Channel, an organization in the UK that puts on the Good Grief festival posts there if you are struggling with shock and grief.

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Madeleine Love's avatar

Thanks for the report. I'm so sorry.

I'm shocked that someone was given two doses of AZ 3 weeks apart - it was meant to be three months. Then they reduced it to 8, maybe 6 weeks. I didn't know they'd reduced it to 3 weeks.

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Itcountsnow91's avatar

So sorry to hear this. May he rest in peace. Sending healing and peace to you and yours.

Fuck that vaccine.

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Chris's avatar

I am so sorry for your loss. God bless you

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Mtone's avatar

Condolences for your loss.

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Person: Damar Hamlin

Relationship to deceased: Former sportsball fan

Info: Age 24, Male, Professional football player

Jab status: At least 2 jabs, maybe 4 jabs

Covid status: What's Covid?

Does anybody actually think this is Damar Hamlin in the videos below? Tiffany Dover 2.0.

https://files.catbox.moe/czxd5w.webm

https://files.catbox.moe/6ifmsp.webm

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Tonetta's avatar

Actually, Dover family members’ fb pages did put up some photos of tiffany in October 2022. Of course they could be shopped, but in one she has her arm around her now much grown son, while standing next to her sister in law who is holding her one year old boy, so born in October 2021. On another sister in law’s page she is pictured with husband on halloween. Same hairstyle as in the thanksgiving picture, same dimple, mouche, smile, etc. If it isn,t Tiffany, it is her twin sister separated at birth. Nevertheless, very strange that she did not simply step forward but completely disappeared. Jordan Schachtel though in one of his substacks did include a youtube video taken after she had recovered from the shot and explained what happened.

So.. where tiffany is concerned i would err on the side of alive. However the video of Damar is ridiculous. In a little golf car covered with hoodie, sunglasses (!), and wearing a mask! Unrecognizable, so likely not him, plus the waving as you is indeed utterly unbelievable.

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

How do you explain this?

https://files.catbox.moe/i5gl36.jpg

SearchQuarry wiped this record not long after in early 2021 IIRC.

There was also a documentary last year which could've saved everybody's time by simply having Tiffany appear on screen or speak. It didn't happen.

https://files.catbox.moe/kaz74g.jpg

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Tonetta's avatar

I cant explain. I find it strange that she did not and does not speak out if alive, and likewise why the hospital or others would have to go the length of signing an NDA if she suffered no further harm. All very strange.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

That's not him. No face video...

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God,seriously's avatar

Why the triangle?

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Hmm, I wonder.

https://files.catbox.moe/kukk71.jpg

How could someone who underwent intensive CPR for 9 minutes less than 3 weeks earlier lift their arms up like that? Chest compressions BREAK ribs, ya know?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6545505/

Not to mention he "has been on oxygen" since the incident, and yet he's walking around MASKED. No interviews? No thanks for the $9M in donations to the toy drive from which GoFundMe gets 30%. No nothing! They're not even trying!

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Leener's avatar

Where are his parents? Why haven’t we heard from them? I only remember statements from his uncle. Why haven’t his parents mentioned if he had receive the Covid shots?

These are the real questions in my mind: why are all the family members staying silent after their loved ones are seriously injured or killed?

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Why have his doctors not offered an explanation for his heart attack or confirmed that it was from a direct hit to the heart?? ( I have not learned the medical term because I’ve watched the video in slo mo multiple times and it wasn’t that )

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

They tried to say it was "commotio cordis" but the tackle was nothing like getting hit directly in the chest by a baseball or hockey puck.

The narrative writers know most people never played sports and rarely left the house, so of course, the normies bought it.

It was definitely a heart attack though caused by a clot or dislodged amyloid mass.

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MJH's avatar

Those clips are very suspicious, but there is at least one clear photo of him wide awake in hospital.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Could have been "photoshopped." His loved ones don't look happy.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

You could be right! SO SAD FOR ALL!

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Leener's avatar

I couldn’t get them all to display, but in the one clip with the mask it looks like a female. I was unable to review the videos as they wouldn’t display on my device

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Tiffany Dover 2.0.

Where has she been since she keeled over a few seconds after being jabbed in Dec 2020 at a Chattanooga hospital on live TV?

They had an entire documentary about her last year where they simply could've just had her appear and speak on camera to quiet the people who think she's dead. Did they do that? NOPE!

They're BOTH dead.

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Leener's avatar

I don't know about Damar, but I've wondered about Tiffany for a few years. I saw a video a few weeks ago of someone searching death records in her town and her name showed up. Same name, age and family associations.

It's hard to believe someone could DIE and it could be covered up for years!

I think Damar is alive but probably not doing as well as we've been told. Weird that his parents are not talking, but that seems to be the MO for all of these things. Also strange about the Go Fund Me for an NFL player with insurance who was injured while working, so it's worker's comp injury that would be fully covered. He doesn't need a Go Fund Me!

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Maxstirner's avatar

his fundme thing was for a charitable cause

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Contract paid in full by "special arrangement" which doesn't affect Bills' salary cap. He wasn't a superstar, but still. The sportsball leagues are very serious about their salary caps.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/damar-hamlin-breaking-new-contract-arrangement-paid-full-buffalo-bills-health-update

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Leener's avatar

Don’t know if you saw this but it’s a video of Damar that recently came out on YT. IT surprised me.

https://youtu.be/IziQ2N-rxLo

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dar's avatar

yay, no.3 for me, CCT...=Text in image=

4.6 BILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY vs 100 FT AWAY IN AN NFL STADIUM with HUNDREDS OF CAMERAS

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Madeleine Love's avatar

unlikely

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Leener's avatar

Damar has a video out on YT.

https://youtu.be/IziQ2N-rxLo

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freelearner's avatar

July 2, 2022

very close friend of a very close friend (both friendships approx 20 years long)

female, 46, slightly overweight, rec. drug user and had been to a Grateful Dead concert one week prior

Vaxxed 4 times, covid 2-3 months prior

Began feeling sick 5 days prior to death, called the ER about 3 days in but was told symptoms were too non-specific to warrant any particular action. Legs went numb on day 5, and husband and son took her to the ER. She was dead within mere hours from organ failure, they said it must be a blood infection but no autopsy was done. Total shock from everyone in her life, she was very active until she caught a "bug" as was presumed.

Also of note, son could not be with her in her last hour of consciousness because only one visitor was allowed. At the time he was 22.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am so sorry for your loss. And appreciate the info. 46 yo slightly overweight people should not die from organ failure

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Janet's avatar

Horrible. That a close relative is not allowed at death in the hospital is cruelty and frankly torture. Like they own your body in life and in death. I spit on that hospital death trap. Might as well call them morgues now. So sorry for your friends loss.

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freelearner's avatar

Trust me, I felt like burning the place down when I heard. I don't know how the people who work there can do this / put up with this. Just inhuman.

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Janet's avatar

OMG. You are correct. 😱

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Torgul's avatar

Hi Igor. Mark Crispin Miller keeps a running list of the DS and likely Adverse reactions with bi-weekly (tri?, anyway quite often) sub-stack posts and has been doing so for quite some time. You may already know, but just in case.

https://substack.com/profile/37258171-mark-crispin-miller

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I wish ONE mainstream reporter (or team of reporters) would just pick, say, 50 of Mark's examples and follow-up with all 50 of them. Then report how many seem authentic or at least find out if any public health official tried to investigate the cause of these deaths. Instead, we get the assumption that EVERY one of these reports is wrong and could not be from a vaccine injury.

Well, if you investigated even a small number of them you would see it's very possible and likely at least some of these deaths were caused by the "vaccines." So the key to the operation is to NOT investigate that which you don't want to "confirm."

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Len Kinder's avatar

Thanks, Torgul. This link works better for me: https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/archive

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MAGA_From_Heaven's avatar

What a way to make a buck!

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Torgul's avatar

It is indeed better :). Thanks.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

My friend's 23 yo Godson died of pulmonary embolism in mid-2022. Fully vaxxed for college.

My friend's 36 yo niece felt awful after first shot; died a few day after second in mid-2021. Worked in healthcare...mandatory.

My friend's BIL in early 50s died of heart attack a few weeks after being injected in spring of 2021. He was an evangelist for these injections. This friend has had 6 relatives pass away over the last 18 months.

Several others that are a degree apart.

I know of 2 cases of lower body paralysis lasting 6 weeks.

Stroke, heart attack. A complete disaster. People who pushed this need to pay for what they've done. Nuremberg Code violations demand the ultimate penalty.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Good grief.

Naked evil for the world to see. But their eyes are scaled.

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freelearner's avatar

Also, Igor, perhaps you could do a future post about non-sudden but suspected vax related deaths, as well? My father was hospitalized about 6 weeks post-Moderna and died 7 1/2 weeks post vax, but it seems quite clearly vax related. I do think it's useful, though, to separate sudden and "a while later" deaths as the mechanisms are likely different, and causality is less certain with longer time frames.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

You can report that right here

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freelearner's avatar

June 26, 2021

my father

72 years old, only condition was psoriasis

2 doses Moderna, lots 030A21A and 017B21A, mid and end April 2021

No covid

Hospitalized Jun 17, confusion/dementia, atrial fibrillation, wheezing/cough, kidney failure, liver failure, severe weakness, inability to eat

No fever, when I suggested UTI I was told there was only "marginal" at best evidence of infection, so probably not UTI

Cardiac arrest 2x on June 25

Removed from life support June 26

Death certificate says septicemia, no autopsy done

If anyone is wondering why he didn't receive care sooner I can only say my parents hid this from me until it was impossible to hide. My mom has no awareness consciously that it could have been the vaccine, to this day. I feel like their denial of his illness was linked to their inability to think he could be suffering side effects. In other words, I feel the propaganda that the vaccine was SAFE AND EFFECTIVE prevented them from recognizing what was happening until a very late stage. Not that I believe he could have been saved in an American hospital anyway.

I'm sorry Dad that I didn't try to talk you out of it -- I just knew it would never work.

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Freedom's avatar

All the family members I tried to warn, just thought of me as an uninformed fool. Sadly, most people just don’t want to hear it, we can’t blame ourselves when things go wrong. Blessings to you, freelearner.

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Katarina Christoforou's avatar

Same here, I'm going to keep trying though, what else can we do? x

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Survive and stay healthy naturally. My advice? Stay out of

the "clutches" of AMA doctors in the U.S. Vultures!

I post publicly and freely on MeWe.

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Katarina Christoforou's avatar

I am in the UK, but yes, I am my own doctor now, always was, I never went unless I had already diagnosed. I did human biology to a high level, but studied law not medicine. Not being a herd thinker gives me the edge over your average jabbing doctor.

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Janet's avatar

Same here.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

So sorry about your dad.

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Torgul's avatar

Indeed.

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Katarina Christoforou's avatar

My condolences x

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Anja's avatar

💔

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Katherine's avatar

There is a death signal at 5 months out, as well.

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Wesley B's avatar

Another huge one at 15-18 months it seems according to a lot of the "died suddenly" groups on telegram like https://t.me/covidbc Anyone can open this link on a pc and hit "preview channel" link to see the posts on a standard web browser like chrome. The vast majority are "person got vaccinated on x date and advertised it publicly on Facebook/Instagram" or a "look at my three doses vax card" and then a sudden death obituary....

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Dan P's avatar

Hello Igor. I’m sure you are familiar with Mark Crispin Miller’s Substack where he frequently lists many famous and not so famous people who have either died suddenly or have been adversely affected by the jabs which is sometimes even stated as the cause in the actual news reports from all over the world. These news reports are everywhere and I love your idea of reaching out and compiling more data. These single events which are sad and ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE are mostly insignificant unless we can piece together thousands to show the significance of damage being done on a massive scale every single day that is absolutely unprecedented. Godspeed!

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/sir-michael-flatley-has-aggressive?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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MAGA_From_Heaven's avatar

I prefer J. Wilderness's video compilations on YouTube... he has a gift for dramatizing the strangeness of this whole scenario...

https://youtu.be/8vLKvfF8R6E

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Charlotte's avatar

This is wonderful! I think you will find (imho) a link between the proximity of vax and a case of covid. I guess the spike protein overwhelms the body and then you have to see where it ends up and in what final form. Can lead to blood clots, embolism, stroke or myocarditis.

My neighbor, formerly overweight banker, 42 years old, lost weight at beginning of covid got really fit. Got J and J early in 2021. Then got a Moderna booster in January 2022, got covid in March and was diagnosed with severe myocarditis at the end of March. Has a colleague who had exactly the same thing. Both are suffering flare ups of the myocarditis if they do too much sports or lifting.

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this little authoritarian's avatar

"Oh but myocarditis is mostly mild and temporary"...uh uh

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Glenda's avatar

I don’t understand how people can choose to be so ignorant as to fool themselves that any damage to the heart is temporary.

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this little authoritarian's avatar

You can be sure that they call the myocarditis caused by covid-19 as "serious".

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Janet's avatar

Many dead in 2 years. 50% in five. Cardiologists say. It used to be called an old man’s disease.

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Castigator's avatar

50% in five may be an underestimation. In Canada, Dr. Hoffe put the figure at 60 or 70 percent.

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Katherine's avatar

We can pray that many recieved "blanks," and that treatments are found to heal the injuries. If 60% of 66% of Americans are gone in 5 or 10 years our nation is finished and will be repopulated by those continents and nations which did not take the jab....

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Castigator's avatar

Making linear projections is always fraught with pitfalls since complex, real-life processes tend to be dynamic. However, what sticks to mind is the pre-covid Deagel forecast of U.S. population reaching ca 100 mln by 2025. Subsequent to publication, the figure was predicated on a nuclear war as justification. Funny that, for the forecasts for both Russia and Germany were not commensurate.

Dr. Hoffe (at the instigation of Dr. Burkhardt, I believe) used the D-dimer test to make projections. C. Pardekooper makes a summary of the findings here: https://howbad.info/ddimer.pdf

Frankly, the more one looks into it, the worse it comes out.

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freelearner's avatar

That's awful to hear. I had been hoping that the 50% estimate was based on older people in the past, and maybe it wouldn't be anywhere near as high for these younger people. In other words I was really hoping to hear that estimate was dropping, not rising.

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Janet's avatar

My hubby got one JNJ but no more. Won’t get flu shots either now. He doesn’t like me talking about this but something got to him. He’s 76 with a few issues. Already had a stroke and triple bypass 25 yrs ago. I think we both had a mild Covid February before jabs in our area. I hope your neighbor gets better. Being hobbled by heart issues at 42 is terrible. His life is changed forever and probably shortened. Sad and infuriating. Heads need to roll— literally.

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Dan Dahlen's avatar

My best friend ever, my grandson died suddenly at age 26. June 26, 2021. He was a beautiful, super strong, vibrant go setter. Energy to die for. What a shameful loss. Zero health issues. Sat in his lawn chair and dropped dead.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am so, so sorry, it is devastating and so unfair

Do you have vax and covid dates for him?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Do you have vax and covid dates for him?

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Bailout Failure's avatar

😔 so sorry for your loss.

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Monic's avatar

So sorry 😞💔

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Katherine's avatar

Dear Lord, I am so, so very sorry. God give us the Strength to Stop this Madness.

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Monic's avatar

Uncle, 88, died in May 2022...nobody will really question it because of his age.

But he was before his third shot, driving, in perfect health. After the third shot end November 2021, he went to the hospital for lack of breath in January 2022. Stayed for almost 2 weeks. Got out with an oxygen tank. Was always short of breath. In May, he collapsed in the hallway.

Montréal, Canada

A friend’s mother 92. Was full of life 2 years ago. Was still cooking in her apartment. After 3-4? shots. Needed help to get dressed, washed, fed.

Heart scarring, kidneys failing, and difficulty to breathe. Passed away 2 weeks ago.

Again, old, nobody question the fast speed of her decline.

Windsor, Ontario, Canada. January 11, 2023

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am sorry for your loss but I appreciate the details. Did they have Covid also? If so when?

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Monic's avatar

The 92 years old yes, not my uncle, that I know of.

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Glenda's avatar

And why do so many, even the vax cautious, continue to recommend these injections to the elderly? Why would I want to risk dying badly and possibly sooner when I’m enjoying an active, happy and healthy “old age”? I had 2 1/2 years of neuromuscular spasms, pain and numbness after a pneumonia shot (1/20), I didn’t need (I wasn’t lying around in a nursing home bed), but took compliantly according to the Medicare vaccine schedule. I now have neuropathy and sciatica when I didn’t before. Never again. Very distrustful now regarding all “medical” advice.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

SO TRUE! 21st Century PHARMACEUTICAL VULTURES!

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Madeleine Love's avatar

My independent 90yo mother, living alone, catching ubers around town, was fine after her first AZ. Didn't survive the 2nd. She had multiple falls and was admitted to hospital 3 days later. She was moved out to a nursing home and died a few days later.

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Glenda's avatar

My heart goes out to you. I miss my mom and dad every day, but to be completely honest, I’m glad they didn’t live to see this abomination or the deterioration of the country they loved.

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Flying Nun's avatar

My dad also died a couple of months after his first AZ. He was 86 and very disabled, so, again, nobody questions it. No specific cause of death on his death certificate, just a list of conditions he had. He had to have the vax to cross state lines in Australia. Only reason. Never exposed to covid.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

My died suddenly friend at age of 27.

Mateo hit his head on a rock during a moving job, I was later told

Last I saw him and shook his hand, prior to his demise, he was sweating, and freaked out after shaking my hand, needing to wash it immediately....

He was never alone during his work, moving, but the guy who told me said they'd found him 45 minutes later , dead.

Something smelled badly about the story but I could not say any more than what I was told.

Broke my heart to hear of his passing.

Don't know if , how many injextions, etc.

This was long before the died suddenly had become a thing, and I only thought he may have been vaxxxidented long after wards.

R I p Mateo, my good friend

Sorry for the Harmacide

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Lisa Liberty's avatar

Good idea. Better than doing nothing at all.

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Ellen's avatar

I think Steve kirsch is working on something similar

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Ed Dowd’s book CAUSE UNKNOWN, too … but talking about people we know is different.

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STH's avatar

I know of several (16)? But I don’t have enough detail to be credible. 😖

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Igor Chudov's avatar

See if you know a few of them well enough to report, even 2 or 3 would be great

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STH's avatar

It’s not easy? My daughters coworkers 40yo friend just dropped dead jogging in Central Park NY. Likely vaxxed due to NYC. That’s all I the detail I have. Another friends 32yo boyfriend for sure vaxxed, died in his sleep Spr of 22’ and his parents won’t release the autopsy results. Another acquaintance’s elderly father died within 24hrs of his shot in the old folks home fall of 21’. She said she was reporting it to VAERS. She’s not a good friend just a friend of a friend, so I’m not grilling her for more detail. I could go on an on. I’m just waiting for a first line friend or family to go. 😑

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

You might try telling them what natural things to stop the damage.

I keep trying.

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Christine the Strawberry Girl's avatar

Same. I know of 5 heart attacks in their 50’s (childhood friends that I no longer know all their details, previous health status), one heart failure that was diagnosed prior to the shots but died after the shots...not sure if it was first or second. 2 children collapsed and one died at their school in my community. I know of 2 brain bleeds one was a 23 year old very athletic and fit woman died after her 2nd and the other was a 52 yo woman (also a childhood friend) died after her 3rd. I was told she had Transverse Myelitis after her 3rd shot but was misdiagnosed and died in icu from brain hemorrhage, single mom left 2 boys.

Loads of patients have died where I work but really can’t share those details on here. But, I’ve seen some strange deaths. Death certificates are no longer going into charts and I have a suspicion I know why.

Then there’s the many coworkers who are gone. Some retired (lucky) but some are just gone, no one knows their stories. It’s all “coincidence & antidotal”.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

OMG. This is incredibly sad.

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Iva's avatar

I know a school director in his 40’s to die of heart attack when the shots started, everyone was shocked after his unexpected death.

Language teacher in her 50’s - breast cancer after shots, no details known.

Boss at job lost 30kg in few months and had 3 operations in 3 months- looks like turbo cancer to me, he is 56 years old.

A colleague in his 40’s dead of cancer- had chronic diseases before, therefore strong suspicion that he had all the shots and boosters available.

A colleague dead of cancer after shots, about 60 and overweight.

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Janet's avatar

😢

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

Relationship: My best friend

date: 2/2/22

age: 52

Male, cancer remission of 3 years at time of vaccination

Covid status - nil

2 x AstraZeneca, 3 weeks apart (as vulnerable group). 2nd dose September 2022 (don’t know precise date).

Accelerated deterioration commenced November 2022 and he went home to his mother for care in December - a landmark decision given their relationship. Over Xmas and NY he lost significant weight and his cancer was re-announced when a large 10 cm dark matter likely a Timor or intestinal/ pancreatic capillary leakage and blockage (vaccine injury?). I spoke last to him on the Australian day long weekend 26/27/28/29 Jan 2022. He died in his sleep 3 days later. I did everything I could after the first jab to get him to hold doctors accountable for vax injury- they told him to go away and come back when he wanted to be vaxxed. In the meantime, terrified by prospect of dying of Covid he not only got vaxxed but fell entirely into the hands of pharma-oncologists-Covid doctors. Being his appointed health power of attorney over the past 5 years meant I was able to stay up to date with his cancer blog including his medical and pain journey from diagnosis, prognosis and long term remission followed by a rapid onset and acceleration of a “tumour”. In his wishes he was cremated quickly and without ceremony so an autopsy could not be performed on actual cause of death.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Thanks for posting separate stories in separate messages

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Bailout Failure's avatar

I feel youre griev and powerlesness. I am so sry for your loss.

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

Thankyou for your kindness

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

How can I edit the years for 2nd jab and deterioration so they are changed from 22 to 21

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Owl's avatar

Would you please double-check the dates? Was his 2nd dose Sept 2021, and decline Nov 2021 if he passed Feb 2022?

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

Yes correct- I keep forgetting I’m now in 23! So: dose 2 - sep 21. Deterioration November 21. Death Feb 22

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

These dates are correct

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Goddess Purpurea's avatar

Location Bundaberg QLD Australia

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Adam Brown's avatar

You should also ask for links to online obituaries. Those reports would carry the name and other details of the deceased and generally would be more credible. Every suspected "died suddenly" case I know of has an obituary somewhere, or a GoFundMe, etc. They rarely mention the vaccine but it will contain plenty of info to ensure you gather no duplicates and the deaths are real.

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Dawn's avatar

My cousin died on Jan 15th suddenly. 54. His obituary says “passed peacefully” because he had a major heart attack in his sleep. My family in that area (New England) are fully on board with every mandate and vaccination, so they will never even blame the V. In fact, my dad thought I was nuts to even mention the V because my cousin had a minor heart attack and type II diabetes, but he had worked hard to drop 30 lbs and get healthy the last 4 years and was doing rather well. That is what made it sudden. People don’t believe the V is killing anyone, they will stay in their cognitive dissonance and blame anything but the V.

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