Execution is too good for them. Permanent jail, on public display, and a diet of bugs. For 'public display', I'd settle for permanent surveillance with cameras linked to a special TV/internet channel where people can log in any time to watch them, Big Brother style. No privacy breaks - remember these people want to chip you for 24-hour biometric surveillance. Also monthly mRNA shots.
The Law Does Provide For Execution. Problem is the TREASONOUS behind the curtain continue to RE-IMAGINE new definitions for old evils to make them sound benign and as good. WE...The Dolts allowing ourselves to be manipulated CONTINUE TO ALLOW AND USE WOKE LANGUAGE AS RE-DEFINED AS THEY DEMAND.
Time to stop defining the Insurgents Invading at the Southern Border as 'Immigrants' when they are in fact the Soros/Catholic Social Service's HUMAN HERD. They are INVITED AND FINANCED AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE via Laundered Funding to the U.N. and disbursed to the billionaire's NGO'S. MUST BEGIN TO USE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE AND NOT THE LANGUAGE TO WOKE FASCISTS CHOOSE to make EVIL SOUND GOOD.
Not mentioning important subjects correct and let alone completely formulated, which is only that necessary when interacting with bad people. Especially when the bad guys choose to contact you. This is indeed a very big problem, and probably the main cause of the continous ever changing tortures they spread over us the people, while please take this moment to notice that the intervals between one 'disaster' and the next one, had become shorter and shorter.
At this very moment in my opinion they make themselves look so obviously ridiculous and greedy by the immense succes of selling fake disasters to the whole world because WEF people are now infiltrated in all governments globally. Choosen by the people to represent them, instead of the WEF. And of course this what the government told the voters they should do.
Almost in every country in the world the law has an exact crime description in its own article. It is called something like this:
'Betrayal of the people/ betrayal of the country, is a fact when democratically choosen representatives, are giving away (part of) their powers to a 'third party' and which is not clearly explained before their voters choose them to represent them'
Well this is exact the committed crime about all democratic governments took against their own countries/voters.
The punishments for committing this crime are not really a joke.
Does anybody here know why this law/facted fact of crime isn't used to have (all) those government(s) to stop allowing their people being tortured by people who are not choosen by them at all, not qualified nor installed by law. Because of the latter reason the people of governments doing this, are in fact
personally responsable and accountable for everything they decide to do or allow others to do to their people!
And they inherently so have to pay for all damage!
And that, I guess, is way too much for them evil ones to ever be able to pay. But even worse is the fact they risk paying all they have for the caused damage, and after all go to jail as well: for comitting the crime I just mentioned above in this comment...and they do this all to realising the evil weird useless plans of a few even more evil people.
So this fact is in my opinion even far more effective (and safe!) to stop the evil ones torturing us or have others to do that for them/because they have plans for themselves for which they want us to pay with our money first and after doing that, you
have to pay with your life and or those of the ones you love.
Same question here: why isn't this used every day in court sinds at least beginning of 2020?
I hear your frustration and hints of pain based within the universal 'cognitive dissonance' the Psycho-Predators depend upon to keep themselves safe. Many are no longer in pain and 'cognitive dissonance' has been replaced with RAGE.
The overlapping crises and chaos is NOT EFFECTIVE TO DISTRACT ANY LONGER. There is more coming and it's not going to be long.
You are very right, I do feel a lot of pain for many many years now ever since way before this covid madness.
I hope very much you are right about the distraction is no longer effective..you seem to me a person who knows were to talk about and were about not to, so I am lightly optimistic now about this, for once
In reality, they probably are masked and jabbed. They are also "horrified" at the kids getting the bug and then giving it to them. In some ways they are correct - they stuffed their immune systems so badly with the jabs that they are at far greater risk of serious trouble. Still, it gives one an understanding of their priorities - sacrifice everything for themselves including the kids - no parental instincts there (to give up all for the kids).
I think that you have a rather positive view of the situation and I truly mean no offence. I was like that before this Covid nightmare started. Now, I know better - people like this are idiots and if they were only stuffing themselves, I would have no problem with it. It is after all a personal choice that I would accept. The problem is that they are not satisfied to stuff themselves, they want to do it to all of us and they do have critical mass. That makes them dangerous and not worthy of any of sympathy or understanding. Please make no mistake - if given the power, they would give you no quarter and they would gleefully do to you all kinds of harm in the name of the greater good.
In my opinion, the stakes will get higher as the jabs have clearly impaired the innate immune systems of probably billions. These people are not going to be happy when the reality will hit home (it is unavoidable for the great majority). Unfortunately, 99% of the population is of the kind that is mad that some managed to avoid the jabs - their anger will be mostly directed at the "anti-vaxxers" not because they the anti-vaxxers were wrong. On the contrary, because they were right and thus do not have to suffer with crippled immune systems. I have already seen it. Many of my former colleagues, who were stupid enough to get jabbed as soon as they could, are angry that I did not take any jabs and I have not had Covid. In the words of a couple of them - "It is not fair that you did not get inoculated whereas we had to do it to keep everyone safe". Is it rational thinking? No. By jabbing themselves they put everyone at greater risk of all sort of problems but that is all they are capable of, as far as I can tell.
Your guess was spot on - all my former colleagues have PhDs in different types of STEM. Clearly a PhD in science does not equate common sense & critical thinking. It is what it is and maybe they will wake up someday. On the other hand I have no doubt that our side will come out on top simply because we can still think critically whereas they cannot.
Categorizing - quacks and irresponsible, selfish lowlifes who endanger everyone. Analyse us? Not possible - they lack the capacity to think without being totally biased.
What is happening with those parents in the first place is immense stupidity: They are unfit for life, and if they manage to curtail their bloodline, so be it. The gene pool is getting sorted. Pity the kids if they are unable to resist, that is all.
Oh there are so many advantages of childhood .. but sadly, when too young children are unable to make their own informed decisions and many suffer in every way imaginable due to parental decisions and bias - parents will make value judgements based on their own perceptions .. bottom line is .. children who are unable to make informed decisions need PROTECTING and that is something we are not good at in Britain, despite “shouting from the rooftops” the excellence of our child protection and safeguarding teams! Child Protection MUST start from birth, l do not mean the “heavy handed engagement” but rather a softly, softly approach with good observation. It is my opinion that EVERY child should know that there is an “independent” adult who is easily accessible with whom they may consider the alternative narrative with ..
I do not agree. That same logic is used to take away parents rights to raise their children the way they see fit. That has been historically used to allow governments to step into personal freedoms as well as target members of families where parents are informed upon by the children. So no I don’t agree with you.
Utterly utterly agree. The government does not know what is best for YOUR child that YOU birthed. There is no soft approach. Also, parents have the right to indoctrinate their children. Like it or not. You may hate what they are teaching them, but it is none of your business.
Well it’s certainly not the government. What have you seen them do right, ever? We have a Constitution. It doesn’t say anything about governmental rights over parents.
The Constitution is indeed silent on that. At least the letter of the Constitution is, and the word "parents" is not mentioned at all. Granted. However, hiding behind that omission is problematic. Take the following two Amendments, to be used whenever the Constitution happens to be silent on something:
Amendment IX: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Amendment X: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The issue in question is neither delegated to the federal government nor prohibited to the States. And last I checked, children are people too.
And that's *before* we even get into the 14th Amendment either. Or international humanitarian law either, for that matter.
If we had decent child protective services it would be wonderful, however they are many times worse than the parents. Foster parents who do it for money & don’t care about the kids, for example. It’s unfortunate that any idiot can birth a child but there’s not much we can do about it. We can try to have a society that lives by & teaches morals & ethics, but as you can see that hasn’t worked out very well either.
The Rothbardian slope is indeed much slipperier than it appears. Those who wish to deny children human rights should be VERY careful what they wish for.
Yukon Dave, you're right. Skye is also, to some degree, right. However, the child should be trained as part of his or her schooling how to research matters, using sites like PubMed (and dozens of others) as their source of information. The idea of an "independent" adult is interesting -- just think about WHO that independent adult would typically be. One only has to consider our school systems, universities and electorate to perform this thought experiment!
We are going to have to “agree to disagree” on this - No parent has the absolute right to knowingly offer up their child for medical research. Then to go into melt down when they realise the lifetime effects or indeed mourn a death. Am l hard? No l am a mother of two children - grown and flown to far flung places - l made the decision not to vaccinate my children. They caught all the “usual childhood diseases” survived along with their class mates and developed a very healthy immune response. We are well, slept well, exercised daily, stimulated our minds daily and had lots of fun too - lots of outdoor living and adventures produced very healthy children. No, l am not wealthy, we were just healthy. I should add a caveat here: my children were born healthy with no issues. So, l respect your opinion and welcome all different opinions to mine - with respect - without debate and looking at “the alternative narrative” how can we ever make informed choices?
Some kids don't win the parent lottery. That doesn't justify opening the door to massive govt meddling. One could inadvertently be advocating a system where the government overrides parents to jab kids. It can cut both ways.
If not the parents then who should make the decision? Obviously no one should take covid shots, but in the case of say an experimental treatment for a serious disease, it is the parent who must give or refuse informed consent, because the child cannot and no one else can be trusted to.
And yet we are living in a world where the government WILL step in and take guardianship of your child if you refuse chemotherapy, or some life-saving surgery etc! :-(
Refusing shots is one thing, but when refusal of that leads to the state refusing to educate your kids, the hospitals refusing to let you in, or your boss refusing to let you work, then how many decisions currently ARE in the hands of the parents - or even the individual...? :-\
Our systems have massive cracks and have been hijacked by evil people!!!
Thats all true. Fortunately, most of the things that they are withholding have little actual value. Them withholding education would finally push us over the edge into homeschooling, the hospital refusing to let us in would keep us from services that seem increasingly sketchy, and I've definitely lost jobs before. Somehow by the grace of God we survived.
Exactly. But I'd still like to think that if I had a comminuted fracture in my leg that a hospital would put me back together? However, I'm not so sure these days. So I try to be careful - and we tell our kids to be careful - so that we won't GET to that point of needing to go to hospital!
As for the jobs and homeschooling stuff, we, too, have that sorted.
But most people take all this government 'care' for granted. It's only when they're the recipient of "you're not welcome to use our services unless you do XYZ first" that they question things...and even then, most still do the required XYZ... :-(
I think, very few people participate in our society willingly anymore. Most want to be less engaged with a society that, I think, disgusts us all in one way or another, but find it difficult to withdraw. I suspect that even more than 'dedollarization' and 'financial collapse' the people who run our society realize that debt is the only glue holding us together any more, which is why they work so hard to make sure that the people they need the most are in terrible debt. To be clear, financial solutions are only valid to financial problems and their are tons of problems that improved finances won't touch, but if your chains are made of debt get out of them as fast as possible. If your chains are modern conveniences and technology, find way loose. Don't let these people run your life, they will run it into the ground.
Unfortunately, involuntary participation in our society is why almost all of the things society provides are crap, because the providers are just providing as part of a get rich quick scheme and not cause they believe in what they are providing, they are just making money for their startup, or to flip houses or some other bozo plan, our civilization is a hollow shell, the Long March through the Institutions has succeeded but they have turned everything they conquered into garbage.
Our civilization is past its peak, we are on the backside of the civ curve, all of the virtuous feedback loops have become vicious, we have some control of the speed of our descent but no power to change the direction. We can take the Germanic route and burn down the Eternal City when it has rotted out, we can take the Chinese route and preserve Deep State mandaranism and functionaries as a mummified mockery of what was once alive.
But if we have any hope for new life then we must find once again a God who cannot be mummified, the God of the Empty Tomb
Yes, society IS hollow and meaningless. Even chit-chat with neighbours seems hollow afterwards these days.
I think we all need to study philosophy and the WHY of everything and ask a tonne of questions!! And spend time out in Nature, and just ENJOY what's nice about this world! Without all that, why bother?
You're right, we're on the downhill slide of civilisation's peak now. I've been aware of that for quite some time. And getting further and further into society, fashion, the MSM - it's all garbage. It really is. But I do like some of the modern conveniences (like dishwashers and washing machines & fridges!). Mobile phones I can do without. Computers are OK - just.
I want people to be REAL again, and our values to be REAL again. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure how real any of society has been my whole life, and I'm 44. Sometimes I think my grandparents got the best of it, even though they went through WWII. But anyway, we're here, and I guess we have to make the most of it!
I'm not sure that finding 'God' is necessarily the answer for everyone, but we DO need hope - and a better future.
That's a complicated topic. No kids shouldn't get sex change operations or hormone blockers without parental consent, but that doesn't mean parents should be allowed to volunteer their children for experimental drugs aka the vaccine. It depends on what the treatment is because many of us also think parents should not be allowed to determine and force genital surgery on children who are born hermaphrodites/intersex and yet there is a lot born though it is seldom talked about. Surgeons see these kids as money making guinea pigs where they force children with mild hypospadias to have genital surgery repeatedly, some almost every year of their life all so they can stand up to pee like a "normal" boy and make the child endure tremendous pain from repeated surgery and scar tissue. The same with children who have CAH they are forced by their parents and surgeons to endure what is basically medical rape.
Most people desire to fit in, to belong. It's particularly critical during childhood years that they learn how to establish good friendships and to avoid the destructive ones. Parental role is to provide helpful guidance, encouraging open dialogue so that healthy choices are made. That becomes extremely difficult to do when the educational institutions are infiltrated by destructive influences that are supported and protected by the institutions and governments.
The child needs to be trained first and foremost by their parents, who have hopefully survived well enough to make good enough decisions. If they don't, miserableness ensues. Eventually, some kids down the ancestral line will react by making better decisions. Yes, they'll be damaged. But they'll also get on a better path.
For the lucky ones, the parents will make enough bad decisions that will not break their kids, but will nevertheless teach their kids to not trust other people, and then their kids will have a chance at truly changing things - because they question everything.
School is not the answer. University is not the answer. Government is not the answer. The answer has always been within ourselves. And the sooner everyone starts listening to their intuition, the better.
'Tis a shame, of course, for the littlies that are not yet old enough to either think or act for themselves - they are entirely at the whim of their parents. But, that is just how it is. Offspring are meant to be with their parents. That is how Nature works - for better or for worse. Bad parental decisions = unhealthy kids. Eventually those genetic lines will die out. Just give it time (although, yes, it is awful to watch that scenario unfold!!!).
I learned a very very important thing: even bad decisions parents make, are good to their children if those parents made the dicision with love for their children and because they sincerly thought they choose the best option for their kids.
So...very very important because this is what goes wrong and does indeed damage the kids: if the parents choose (partly?) what was best for themselves! And by far the most damage will be caused to their child if they also lie to child by stating their decision was made by them in the childs interest!!
And my guess is that you haven't thought about this facts, because you automatically choose for the best interests of your kids....then there is probably a while nobody on your list...than your partner/husband/wife/all mentioned before ;-)) and than maybe you have yourself listed next....
This is in fact the sad truth that the parents who don't think very much about the interests of others and unfortunately mostly even less of the interests of (their own) children, are the same peope who are not interested in parenting for the sake of their children and will not ever learn that thing of which I guessed you know very well: thinking about good parenting is thinking in the interests of your children and to do so, you need to think from the childs point of view and not your own. Of course to serve this childs point of view/skills/talents/interests you can and have to use your life experience, always combined with you love for your child.
And in your case...you know... automatically etc etc etc
Oh, I DO think a great deal about the best interests of our children, because I grew up in a single parent household where my mother made almost all decisions that suited HER. She changed our names and said we wanted them changed. We were 6 and 8. She made us be vegetarian and didn't think about the consequences of that. I got very little protein growing up. Ate way too much ice-cream and dairy products (and I'm allergic to dairy but no-one ever checked me for that as a kid!) as well as eggs to compensate, plus when I starting working at 14, I bought tuna and ham with my own money - and ate it outside because we weren't allowed meat inside the house! I also have asthma but was never checked for that. Fell on my backside and broke my coccyx but was never taken for an X-ray. Just sat on a cushion for a week. My first memory is of a broken collarbone and my mother saying "I know it hurts, darling" - and taking my skivvy off OVER my head instead of cutting the damned thing off! Money was a bit tight, shall we say? Our health came in a lowly 5th or 6th place I suppose. Got left alone a lot as kids/teenagers. My mum was out at work literally half the evenings each week. She never explained anything. She rarely stepped in when we were suffering. I'm not sure she knew how to? Occasionally I got a pat on the head. Was told I was loved about 3 times my whole childhood that I remember. I could give you hundreds of other examples, including being hit with a stick and called every name under the sun. So I know AAALLL about bad parenting. I experienced it far too much. However, we had a roof over our heads and I got a good schooling and I ended up with nice friends (who had nice families!) and so I got to experience surrogate families and what 'normal' family life is like - although I rather knew what I had was NOT normal! I just didn't know how to change it at the time. Nevertheless, lots of time, hard work and perseverance has shown me that you CAN change things a lot in just one generation.
My Mum is not a bad person. She's a product of her own parents, and never received enough love herself. Plus she's Asperger's. She was also the recipient of domestic violence which ended the marriage and left her a single parent at a time when most parents were 'happily married'. Yes, she made lots of bad calls - but she also made some very good calls in there. And we survived (although much of that was by luck, I think!). I understand it all now but it wasn't much fun going through it all, let me tell you! And I would NEVER put anyone through what I went through as a kid. If all kids went through what I went through I think most would've committed suicide by now, I honestly, do.
And no, my Mum still doesn't make great decisions and yes, she still makes them for herself. She's not changed. Both my parents are pretty selfish. Always have been. I understand this now. I guess I keep her at arm's length now. It's safer that way. But she still sees my kids and we talk a few times a week on the phone. She's still my mother, I suppose: not that I need mothering anymore because I'm well and truly grown up, and she wasn't much of a mother anyway, but there you have it.
My father, well, he's even less in my life these days! He has made some very bad calls yet could never understand why I was so screwed up by my childhood! Ha!!
Anyway, I won't say I'm a perfect parent, but I'm pretty good, and my kids are happy with me (I check in with them now and then to see and they are all still very happy with me!). We have also recently made a major geographical move to help them along, and they are glad for these changes. We are, too!
I think I've just done most things opposite to what happened to me growing up and we're in a pretty good place, ha ha!!
Sorry for the long post, Mig, but I just wanted you to know that I DO know how the other half lives - because that's what happened to me & my sister growing up. Our father had a shitty upbringing (violence, alcoholism, no money etc) and my Mum grew up in money, but had no love or even nice clothes. So I guess my sister & I were both starting out behind the 8-ball - but we've overcome a lot of obstacles to be better mothers than the last few generations our family have seen! We've made different decisions in there (she's pro-covid, I'm anti-covid etc) but we're both much more loving parents than those before us were. I guess it's complicated.
And it's not that my parents don't love me. They do! In their own ways. They just weren't much good at raising kids and should never had had them TBH.
Thank you for your story! I am blessed with the same background, and I knew this from the moment I red your comments, and enjoyed your immense positive power.
You needed it. To survive. And I think you are doing great, but that you are ready to put the crown on your work for yourself, and to do this is the best gift to yourself and even better for your children.
Let me try to explain to you what I mean.
You are the example to your children. The way you live is their way in future.
Doing things the opposite of what you know is bad, is better of course than doing them bad again. But opposites are in most cases the other side of the 'unbalanced' medal. There are like uncountable ways in between.
And just one is YOUR way. There is no such thing as parents that love you, or holy ways to do things. And if they do exist, the holy way IS your way.
The last step is to trust your own intuitions, thoughts, knowlegde and, most important: feelings. To wonder what it is you feel, and act accordingly.
Example: It is you that decide if your parents add something to your life that is valuable or not, and after that you can decide if they are worthwhile to meet your children, and if they are, how you can manage that they do not damage you or your children anymore.
You have not learned to be protected by your parents. But you must protect your children. And, very important, you cannot and must not protect your parents. That is their call. They are responsable for their own lives, and not you. You are not in the position to live their lives, but you must live your own for yourself and your kids.
Everybody that is not capable of loving you and worse if it wants yours, and even far far worse it gets when your children are being treated wrongly.
If something is not good, bad or a treat to you and or your children, is up to you.
If your parents love you, you can feel it. If you don't feel love for your parents in your heart, which is most likely in your situation, and you keep on tolerating damagable persons like your parents in your family, so will your children in theirs.
It is possible to think of what you want and do not want your parents do in your family. You can ask them and when they don't, they can have all reasons in the world, but that doesn't mean anything more than that to you. So you, nor your family, is going to pay the price for their problems anymore.
And what that is and how to do it? Try to think that you could choose anything in the world, and put yourself and your family first...
Believe me, this is harder to do than you think
But...believe me please on this one too: the rewards of developing yourself are unbelievably big, to you and to your children as well, really, automatically, you can almost litteraly see it happen on them the moment you choose your own choices..just because...they are yours!
Yes, we made a decision to move 1000km north...and my mother recently moved 700km south of where we were (to be near my sister who moved there a year earlier)...so now we're 1700km apart in Australia - instead of 300km apart like we used to be! My Dad lives in southern California. We're just a tad spread apart in our family ha ha. I've got cousins all over the globe and aunts/uncles here and there, too.
We don't make our family decisions based on what's best for our parents. We do what's best for us and our kids. And our move has been a good one. Not perfect, but much better than where we were!
Ultimately, my hubby & I are just waiting for our parents to die. They're all in their 70s. They have some health issues. It's just how it is.
It's not easy growing up in the households we grew up in, Mig, this is true!!! But my hubby & I also know that WE need to grow, and we no longer live in our parents' shadows. We are our own people, and we have done a lot of work to get where we currently are, and we know there's still a lot more work to continue on down the paths we have chosen.
I love my intuition and I trust it greatly. And we have plans and ideas for our future, as well as providing opportunities for our kids, and we are slowly working towards our goals. It feels good :-)
Everything in the UK is pretty shit but we allow our leaders to constantly lie and big-up everything about "Great Britain" and yet really it is all lies.
Yes, but that usually happens when they are older and can think things through with more information. Not in childhood. My parents worshiped money at all costs. Their body, minds and souls utterly devoted. I rejected that. Very easy given the harm it caused. Mindless zealotry leads to very very bad things.
It is probably the very least exercised of the advantages of childhood, especially where indoctrination is begun at birth and carried into adolescence.
Children rarely know they are being "indoctrinated". For them it is normal life. And they are indoctrinated, so to speak, by everything since they are almost a blank slate and easily absorb what people say and do. Teachers, babysitters, parents, neighbors, other children...
Some people remain as children forever. They are eternally malleable and shift their "opinions" with every new thing/idea that comes along. You see it with the jab. Some do not want to know facts. They want a parent and willingly go along with their parent's POV. When people mature and gain the ability to reason and have a knowledge base they then can decide (right or wrong) which way is for them. Parent's way or another way. Hopefully parents instill wholesome virtues in their children and when they become an adult they will not depart from it.
Ignorance of one's being indoctrinated is directly related to overall ignorance in general.
If one hasn't seen enough of the world to determine whether any particular situation is normal or not, one won't have the mental database to demarcate the wheat from the chaff.
I read my mother's nursing textbooks in 6th grade, having entered 1st grade reading at a third grade level with a junior high school vocabulary. I didn't lack said database.
I congratulate you on your superior nature, mind and general abilities to suss out the truth in all things at such a young and tender age Vonu. You are a rare one.
I really don't think I was as different as the opportunities that my mother and eight year older sister gave me by starting to read to me as soon as I was home from the hospital and not stopping until I could read to them. By the time that most get to first grade, they have been dulled by watching unchallenging television babysitters.
The children are in my opinion just as aware as their parents. And children are less indoctrinated then grownups, because the simple fact they are younger.
It is very well possible to learn a child validate what grown ups are telling them. And it is even possible to learn them to talk about it with you the parent, and not for instance the teacher. The teacher is going to chance your child instead of her-or himself, and then your child is 'lucky'. Mostly those teachers become mad as hell and stay so forever, denying it ofcourse, but they can't help it, because they are afraid of a child that sees who they really are, and that is something they themselves wish to avoid completely on a full-time basis from the moment they became almost aware of themselves
I don't know if you are confused, and if you are, I am as well.
I think Vonu is talking from just a little bit an different point of view. It might still be possible you actually would agree when understanding each others reasons to your comments.
The reasons Vonu have are not as much clear to me as yours, but I think Vonu probably means as well as you do.
Vonu commented and I cititate litteraly:
-'You shouldn't let it bother you since there are plenty of native born Americans with advanced degrees that don't do any better.'-end of citate
Doesn't Vonu say in this comment that when comparing my knowledge of the english language to that of native born Americans with advanced degrees, that I know as much as those native Americans...?
Because that seems like an enormous compliment to me! I just grew some inches because of it ;-)
Thank you for recommenting on my comment. Could you please tell me more about what you mean by 'indicating' my juvenility. I am really curious, because it is probably meaningful and at least interesting to know (learn;-)!) your explanation. And with 'explanation' I do mean just what you were thinking, and only if you want/like to write it down for me, but if not, I understand and I am okay with wathever you choose:-)
I am an educated adult I guess and I am in fact also coincidently a teacher for teenagers with big and or many problems,- or as I prefer to describe them is 'as young people surrounded by other people with problems for too long'.
I am natively dutch, so I am writing in a, to me, foreign language.
The way I used the word 'learn' -as like versus the word 'teach'- is probably the dissapointing result of my small knowledge of the english language ;-))
Although your are completly right about my mentally young age anyway!
I will never 'grow up' like most other adults I suppose. I am almost fifty years old now, so I guess it is not going to happen anymore anyway. I am perfectly okay with that now, but easy it isn't most of the time, and nowadays I am okay with that inconvience too;-)
She looks like the kind of imbecile that would have confessed to thought crimes in the 1930's in the Soviet Union. The fact that she had kids is SCARY, though granted, in this case the kids turned out have two working neurons.
Emanuel just lied when he said the jabs prevent serious illness and death. The facts say otherwise. He should be banned from life for spreading misinformation
They didn’t get us. Last year was the toughest year of my long life. Everything I thought was true blew up in my face. That may have to happen to all the blind ones before they get it and it might be much worse for them.
He is the equivalent of the witch doctor that sell potions to "smart" customers that makes them impervious to bullets (this actually happened and the "customer" got a Darwin award).
She probably ratted out her neighbors for having a party when numbers of people were restricted or businesses that weren’t forcing masks a year or so ago
Although this is real-life horror of course, it is extremely funny the way the stupid evil lady shows where she really stands for: nothing in general, and evilness just when it comfortably shows up. Juch. Yek. Brrr scary people really nobody needs or to expect anything good of ever. For sure as well. Groce
While I do not believe any use of recreational drugs to be either good or healthy, a parent who outsources her responsibilities to the police has abandoned all pretense of moral authority.
It's not a parent's job to enforce the law, but to teach her children right from wrong. That means what happens in the family stays in the family.
Of course! The police is to be called only when a life is in danger and the police can probably save it. That kinds of things. And protecting your children is against every threat for every individual, so that includes policemen as well. ;-))
I had a similar experience in college. My mom was concerned about the weed and other stuff. Her cousin Sylvia, wife of a Jewish gangster, was friends with Harry Anslinger who was considered the great godfather of the war on drugs. So Harry recommended my mom take me to the Georgetown Free Clinic where we we met with hippie psychiatrist Bert Schoenfeld MD. After talking with me, Bert told her that he’d be a lot more concerned if I was not participating in these illicit activities. After that she never nagged about it again.
In the years that have followed I’ve learned a whole lot about Mr Anslinger and his passionate battle with Mother Nature. But I’ll always appreciate the thoughtful advice he provided 50 years ago.
I’ve felt the same way for many years. Envisioning an awakened state of being at a young age prompted a search down many avenues that were off the everyday beat and path. And all these years of being devoted to the truth (inner and worldly) brought me to one direction - always let the heart be my guide. I often consider this is how I ended up seeking out fellow freedom warriors. While it’s often a challenge to face the madness that’s all around, the company I’ve found myself in is wonderful!
While going through a fairly deep dive into the rabbit hole about 10 years ago after starting to question the 9/11 narrative, I mostly remained quiet since there were so few others who could even listen. But then in 2020 the scamdemic appeared - for me and some other truth seekers simply refused to just shut up and comply. No freaking way was I going just let these crooks have their way.
In the process it really felt like I was a stranger in a strange world and began finding people in online forums to share our understandings. I found the Brave New Life people who held bi-weekly Zoom meetings and reached out to anyone who lived nearby. Everything led to becoming part of a thriving freedom community full of some of the most intelligent, interesting and decent folks I’ve ever met.
What I’m getting at here is simply a recommendation to anyone who has found themself in this kind of predicament - Don’t be shy about reaching out. I honestly feel we are all going through a transformation of human awareness that’s just as exciting as it is uncertain. I’ve found it best to stay connected with the heart as much as possible…… and by all means seek out the company of those who feel the same. Heaven on earth might be right around the corner 🎆 https://youtu.be/sZpZuIWu1tw
'When my mother found a joint in my dresser drawer, she cried for days until I agreed to see a psychiatrist!' End of citate
This is about your mother emotional blackmailing you, her daughter, to force you to do what she wants. This is a very damaging action of your mom towards you!
I am really happy you went accidently to one of the very few psychiatrist who exactly know what they are doing, and who are therefore capable of actually helping people instead of suppoting the damagable behaviour to you, which I see still happens all the time everywhere.
If your parents are mentally ill, it is for children maybe better to decide important things on their own instead of their parents.
I feel with you for this because my mother is also mentally ill and or was indeed very damageble to me. At the age of thirteen I wanted her to take responsability for what she has done: had me been born, putted me on this earth, while she herself prefered doing things in life all but with me. I concluded that I was a burden to her as well as to myself. She said she couldn't help it, I tried all but couldn't either. She was to blame for my existance so I asked her to undo that. I couldn't care less how she would do it, but all about that she would (un)do it.
She forced me to see a psychiatrist a too and I guess I saw about 10 at least and even more other mental healtcare workers. All bad, only how much of a threat they were to my mental health varied a little bit from a little bit bad to lifethreatened.
So the moment a realised I had not to expect anything good from 'mental health care' and my mom ofcourse took no responsability at all, so I must live with what I got. And with what I got I promised myself to make the best out of the situation. That was sometimes hard, and mostly impossible but I made it, I guess, if I keep on trying to grow mentally, I remain on the right track.
I learned enough to know one thing:
If a child decides to chance gender (sex) without informing his or her parents, every essential minimal loving care every child needs, has not been present in this childs life.
Therefore I think it is necessary to first lovingly 'built' the child, by having the child supported and loved the parents should have done, or some other way to lovingly teach the child the lacking emotional skills, and whatever the child is lacking more.
When this had been done like the child understands what is done wrongly to it, that his or her parents didn't know any better, or didn't want to know any better and which this means for him or her.
When this is clear, the child can make his own decisions, but before this moment, his or her decisions all tend tend to scientifically and genetically have the goal, in one way or the other, to get his or her parents to do whatever they should have done: and that is approving of their child, love and supporting it unconditionally
I am not save nor peacefully living. I cannot explain here publicly because I might be recognised by some bad people and that could be very dangerous not only for me, but even more to others.
This is also why I am trying to clear some things up for you.
This is not about labelling people but about you being able to see who and or what is a threat to you.
Example: a question: did, after your joint discovery by your mother which made her cry for days, nothing happen in your life the same bad or even worse?
Example another question: was your mom relieved by the fact the psychiatrist found out there was nothing wrong with you?
And another: did your mom feel better after seeing the psychiatrist?
And a very different question: were you in need for attention of your mother at the moment she found your joint, when looking deeply in your heart?
I smoked weed once and my mother noticed and never said something about it in my whole life. In the beginning I was relieved, but when I noticed she was going to completely ignore it, I felt very very disappointed. If your mother doesn't talk about her daughter smoking weed, in my opinion proved again she didn't care. Which is actually true indeed I know now
But it can be all completely different in your situation!
I was shocked and appalled my kids didn't want to further destroy their immune systems and face a life of increased vulnerability to disease or the possibility of sudden death...WTF is wrong with them!
Lies, lies and more lies. Kudos to the 'young and invincible' who see through the propaganda. Let's hope they pull off the masks, too, and refuse the antisocial distancing propaganda he's still pushing.
Hmmm I haven’t seen that but I know just what you mean. I’m gonna check it out. That is the flip side of course. There is perhaps much more damage to come. It’s tragic. But it’s also just history. They are exposing themselves and more and more people are done with it all. Maybe I’m naïeve but I am more optimistic than ever.
Well we have definitely been shunned by family, so there’s that. It’s stupid and hurtful but there’s also plenty of people who didn’t do that so I feel it’s pretty even Steven. Despite all the propaganda I think people already have the character they have. Some percentage will bow down and some percentage will say 🖕🏼
You are a hero. That is something that is not whitin my reach untill now. If I see that myself, I am litterly ill for weeks and it remains in my head hurting like for ever...:-((
I did not say it was easy. However, one needs to have a look at the other side from time to time because that way, one can come up with more effective ways to counter their BS.
Exactly! I know! And that is why you are my hero, because you 'bite the dust'. If 'to bite the dust' is an existent proverb, but you seem to know a lot anyway, so what I mean by that must be easy for you to understand I guess;-)
You are too kind. I am just a husband and father that wants a good life for my wife and kids. Sometimes that means I have to do things that I would normally NOT do but that is real life I guess.
I'm actually quite proud of her children that they are able to look at the information from both sides and make an informed decision because too many young people and older adults didn't even investigate the info before rolling up their sleeve.
Why is a mother making an appt for vaccination for a 22 year old “child”? Secondly, these days THE LAST PERSON I WOULD TAKE MEDICAL advice from regarding the experimental biologicals is a DOCTOR!!!! They are unable to give truthful advice due to loss of earning a living. They have been gagged.
It's not uncommon for the children to continue living with the parent(s). Mothers tend to continue being caregivers to them providing cooking, cleaning, laundry and other freebee services including Personal Assistant to book medical appointments. LOL !!
Yep, the medical community has managed to destroy its reputation in record time. I would have more faith in a shaman when it comes to medical advice. The doctors nowadays make "escorts" look honourable.
I wish I could laugh but they're still causing harm to so many by their words and twisted or controlled thinking. They are actually affecting our lives by their lies and/or ignorance. Those people that have been jabbed with one or 5 or 6 (I don't know how many there are anymore), have jobs that we need them to do. Yes, perhaps selfish on the one hand, but because of all their arrogance, selfishness, stupidity, obedience, etc. our lives, the economies, everything could fall apart. How do we get food when the truckers, food processors, manufacturer workers are all dead? How do children get educated when the teachers have gotten all these shots and start getting sick? What's going to happen? There are endless questions that have no answers. This is beyond insane.
God knows what is going to happen. God is in control of it all. We are not. Because humans have forgotten God, and think they are in control, we have all this chaos. The evil Elites imagine they rule the world and us.
True, the hubris humanity has shown...we think we can control disease and climate change. Long after we are gone, and even if we poison the planet...the planet will remain, and we will be like a blink in the eye in existence.
Amen to that! However, it’s not that easy for all to do - your advice is excellent, but l would say “find like minded folks” stick with them and if you cannot escape cities make emergency evacuation plans, speak to relatives, friends, look at easily reachable safe areas - prep, prep and prep with emergency supplies including medication .. have all bags packed safe and ready - keep your vehicle fuelled up .. buy power packs for mobiles and first aid kit. Wind up radios, torches and batteries and do not forget ignition! T lights and a shovel .. l have done all this and more, tested it out in my car as to the fit and speed l can load it .. and don’t forget you may not be alone - so get acquainted with road maps and a compass - use smaller roads, lock all doors and stop for no one. I have a gravity fed water purifier and a decent all weather fast pitch tent. NO! None of us thought/ imagined this would come to be in our lifetimes .. but it was inevitable that “having eaten from the tree of knowledge” we over cultivated our intellect and neglected our emotional and spiritual growth, giving up
our duty as custodians of our truly amazing planet and the natural world - with all its incredible species on land and in the air and sea - We are now facing the unimaginable horrors of Armageddon!
Unvaccinated are pretty much already awake, at least I think we are.
I think a lot of us realize that a lot of hard times are coming. I could be wrong, but at least here in Georgia we are no longer being pressed to get vaccinated.
But then again, you are probably talking about the consequences of vaccination, and I would agree. I have loved ones who vaccinated and boosted, and now are sick or sicker than they were before.
I absolutely share your concern about societal collapse. That being said I have found the only way to cope is a fervent desire is to watch it burn. A phoenix will rise from the ashes and by all accounts it’s going to be beautiful. A world we deserve.
I hope you're right. I appreciate you're positiveness. I can't even imagine what's going to happen before that. This is so complicated and intertwined.
"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?" - Matthew 6:25-27
I repeat to myself often a scripture “ You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,nor the plague that destroys at midday.”from Psalm 91. It calms me down. Got me through some horrible days when forces ramped up to take our lives away summer of 2021. Family and friends were part of that.
The cartridge box is the solution for when the ballot box and the jury box fail to respect the inalienable rights that come to us from the hand of God.
And neither the jury box nor the ballot box have been particularly respectful of late.
We all have our good and bad periods. It’s totally normal during this crazy planetary shift. I figure, I needed positivity when I was down, happy to share mine when I am up. Thank goodness for substack and being able to give and take!
Good point--it certainly seems unavoidable these days. I used to always wish I lived at another time in history. But there is always something. So this is it for us...
You're lucky you can laugh. It's great that it helps you. I hope I can get to that point. I'm not there yet. Laughter does relieve stress. That's for sure. When the two people I know on my street died from these shots it was very hard to deal with knowing they died at the hands of others. So, it's hard for me to laugh. Yesterday, I was talking with someone I know who just had a baby about 5 months ago and they recently had to bring him to hospital. She said to me, "that RSV is rough stuff". I couldn't say a word but I wanted to scream. Too much stress. I do need a few good laughs.
It doesn't take luck to laugh, a lot of times it is a necessity. You can laugh or you can cry, or go off into a dark place. I don't think hope enters into it for those of us who can laugh, who need to laugh. We just HAVE to. Like in the old Jimmy Buffett song "If we didn't laugh we would all go insane."
We may not know people who died on our street, but we see them as statistics daily now. The injuries keep piling up like rationalizations. I have spoken to the injured, and we share something with them in that like us unvaccinated, we are largely ignored or discarded.
Recently on Twitter, someone was posting that "red states" did worse than blue ones in regards to Covid. Even now he was making political points. I wanted to counter with all cause mortality for states that adhered to the vaccination regimens and those that did not...but we are already seeing a lot of those statistics.
In the end though, no one wins. The losses are great and keep piling up. Red Team and blue team, vacc and no vacc team, it all blurs together after a while.
Agree. It's about humanity and those who start dividing us into red, blue, this religion, that one or none at all, etc. are guilty of creating hate, too. This is about good vs evil. And, to show how stupid these morons who talk about red vs blue, I know plenty of injured and dead people in a "blue" state. And, NYC would have been considered a pretty bad place to get covid. But, these morons don't even know that the reality is most people died of other things (especially dangerous hospital protocols) not covid.
To every problem you named but the damage of vaxx itself there is a possible solution.
I think that when we need those solutions, we are going to be aware of creating a lot of dysfunctioning systems, especially for our kids and teens. Lots of room for progress is what I can think of, don't worry until you have to. And if you have to? You don't have time to worry because you can work on a solution. Thats is called life and I guess you will be equiped fully to handle it all perfectly, even if you aren't equiped at all.
You can do it, and if not, nobody can and think of something else.
Have faith in yourself, that is still possible, unless you just became an idiot or an arsehole yourself but technically it is not really possible to change your character, the chance of winning the lottery is far bigger.
So just take it easy and take good care, probably the same as ever, and relax...
I have an issue with the use of the word reasoning - these two creatures are incapable of it and in all truth they probably never had the capacity in the first place. My shoes probably have more reasoning capacity. Still, the problem is that there are way too many of these imbeciles around and that is how the mandates and all the absurd "measures" could be enforced.
My brother and his family fist bumped me the last time they came to visit. Before then it was all hugs. I didn't press it, it made me sad. Made me wonder if there was talk of the unvaccinated plague spreader. Even worse, I didn't want to know the answer to the question, but I am sure his whole family was vaccinated.
Don't worry about it. At least they're fist bumping you and not being absolute morons and disowning you. It's not their fault the governments/health agencies deliberately chose to suppress any information that would provide adequate, proper informed consent. An honest set of authorities would have laid out the pros and cons, the risks/benefits, the knowns and unknowns. Instead they scared the bejeeves out of the population and made them all believe the mRNA injectable Kool-Aid was their only choice for salvation, to avoid death. (I thought I was being smart by waiting several months. nope!). By now they know something isn't quite right as they line up for their fourth or fifth dose. Elon Musk freeing Twitter has opened a large community portal to the uncensored side of truths that allows many more to observe and realize the deceptions from those government and health authority agencies.
I think your right about the fist bumping thing, with a few caveats.
I think we all are responsible for our agencies lying to us. If we are a government for the people by the people, then ultimately, as the cliche goes, get the government we deserve. Somewhere along the line, we screwed up. Originally the institutions like the CDC, the NIH and others were created to provide recommendations and information that would allow us to make informed decisions. The danger is at some point the institution thinks it knows better than the people it dispenses information to what the best course of action is. They also make other determinations, like which information is even good for us.
Here is an exercise in common sense. What is the risk reward for a person age 0-19 to get a vaccine with a .0003% fatality rate? What about .506% for someone 60-69 years of age? What about .123% for someone 50-59 years of age.
The thing is, I'm not even sure if we need authorities at all, but rather servants. We have to stop thinking about our government in terms of "authority" at all. The problem is when we start thinking we know better than others what is best for them, and come instead to them with humility. But we know humility is in short supply. When was the last time the government or anyone in authority apologized for anything?
And it's our fault, we let this go on way too long.
They tried to scare the bejeeves out of the population. My problem is that I've been a scared wimp most of my life so I recognize irrational fear when I see it. And I knew that the fact that we could pinpoint a date when our country locked down was an indicator that this was imaginary and not real. In a real pandemic, the chaos would preempt the imposition of order, not the other way around.
They won't see you at all? Do they usually spend the holidays with you and not so much this time around?
I spent Christmas alone again this year. Last year I was in the hospital recovering from an amputation, this year I spent it alone due to logistics of going anywhere again due to my amputation.
So your sister is vaccinated and you're not? No matter how this pans out, it is not going to end well. Here's something she needs to explain to you, why did she exclude you from Christmas for not being vaccinated when getting vaccinated doesn't provide or confer any protection?
As far as myself goes, a lot of terrible is my responsibility. I probably could fill a book with all that I did (or didn't do) to be treated the way I am treated. I am the architect of my own destiny here.
It is all about how they have been vaccinated and they vaccinated their infant and toddler children. Before they did that, I sent them some information (I am an RN retired) about the quackzines and they were offended. ALSO, my son in law developed severe headaches some months after their vaccines. It turns out he has papilledema and had to undergo many many invasive tests. I sent him information on VAERS and he exploded. Okay so I went too far but I was not pushy and sending a barrage of emails but he just went nuts. So since then I have been completely banned from the family and the children.
Oh that is very sad. Our governments and health authorities intentionally drove a wedge between those who question and those who accept whatever they are told....
She and Dr. Death should be masked, jabbed, and get a room together. Bravo for the kids.
You're too kind.
You're right, Debra. Kindness is not warranted with these criminals. If the law provided for it, these fools should be executed.
Execution is too good for them. Permanent jail, on public display, and a diet of bugs. For 'public display', I'd settle for permanent surveillance with cameras linked to a special TV/internet channel where people can log in any time to watch them, Big Brother style. No privacy breaks - remember these people want to chip you for 24-hour biometric surveillance. Also monthly mRNA shots.
I seem to have lost my Christmas spirit. :-)
How about a public display where their head is shoved through a hole which they can't pull their head out of.. and there are fleas swarming all over?
You know - how he treated dogs in one experiment. Seems like karma!
A few hours a day?
You're evil... I like that :P!
Ha, ha...
That is a very well considered and really an ultimate good solution indeed!
The Law Does Provide For Execution. Problem is the TREASONOUS behind the curtain continue to RE-IMAGINE new definitions for old evils to make them sound benign and as good. WE...The Dolts allowing ourselves to be manipulated CONTINUE TO ALLOW AND USE WOKE LANGUAGE AS RE-DEFINED AS THEY DEMAND.
Time to stop defining the Insurgents Invading at the Southern Border as 'Immigrants' when they are in fact the Soros/Catholic Social Service's HUMAN HERD. They are INVITED AND FINANCED AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE via Laundered Funding to the U.N. and disbursed to the billionaire's NGO'S. MUST BEGIN TO USE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE AND NOT THE LANGUAGE TO WOKE FASCISTS CHOOSE to make EVIL SOUND GOOD.
Here here! and the Libertarian party is sounding better and better each day.
Not mentioning important subjects correct and let alone completely formulated, which is only that necessary when interacting with bad people. Especially when the bad guys choose to contact you. This is indeed a very big problem, and probably the main cause of the continous ever changing tortures they spread over us the people, while please take this moment to notice that the intervals between one 'disaster' and the next one, had become shorter and shorter.
At this very moment in my opinion they make themselves look so obviously ridiculous and greedy by the immense succes of selling fake disasters to the whole world because WEF people are now infiltrated in all governments globally. Choosen by the people to represent them, instead of the WEF. And of course this what the government told the voters they should do.
Almost in every country in the world the law has an exact crime description in its own article. It is called something like this:
'Betrayal of the people/ betrayal of the country, is a fact when democratically choosen representatives, are giving away (part of) their powers to a 'third party' and which is not clearly explained before their voters choose them to represent them'
Well this is exact the committed crime about all democratic governments took against their own countries/voters.
The punishments for committing this crime are not really a joke.
Does anybody here know why this law/facted fact of crime isn't used to have (all) those government(s) to stop allowing their people being tortured by people who are not choosen by them at all, not qualified nor installed by law. Because of the latter reason the people of governments doing this, are in fact
personally responsable and accountable for everything they decide to do or allow others to do to their people!
And they inherently so have to pay for all damage!
And that, I guess, is way too much for them evil ones to ever be able to pay. But even worse is the fact they risk paying all they have for the caused damage, and after all go to jail as well: for comitting the crime I just mentioned above in this comment...and they do this all to realising the evil weird useless plans of a few even more evil people.
So this fact is in my opinion even far more effective (and safe!) to stop the evil ones torturing us or have others to do that for them/because they have plans for themselves for which they want us to pay with our money first and after doing that, you
have to pay with your life and or those of the ones you love.
Same question here: why isn't this used every day in court sinds at least beginning of 2020?
I hear your frustration and hints of pain based within the universal 'cognitive dissonance' the Psycho-Predators depend upon to keep themselves safe. Many are no longer in pain and 'cognitive dissonance' has been replaced with RAGE.
The overlapping crises and chaos is NOT EFFECTIVE TO DISTRACT ANY LONGER. There is more coming and it's not going to be long.
You are very right, I do feel a lot of pain for many many years now ever since way before this covid madness.
I hope very much you are right about the distraction is no longer effective..you seem to me a person who knows were to talk about and were about not to, so I am lightly optimistic now about this, for once
Thank you very much!
The WEF/globalist/talmudist tentacles are so outstretched and intertwined throughout civil society that only a military coup could do what you ask.
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In reality, they probably are masked and jabbed. They are also "horrified" at the kids getting the bug and then giving it to them. In some ways they are correct - they stuffed their immune systems so badly with the jabs that they are at far greater risk of serious trouble. Still, it gives one an understanding of their priorities - sacrifice everything for themselves including the kids - no parental instincts there (to give up all for the kids).
I think that you have a rather positive view of the situation and I truly mean no offence. I was like that before this Covid nightmare started. Now, I know better - people like this are idiots and if they were only stuffing themselves, I would have no problem with it. It is after all a personal choice that I would accept. The problem is that they are not satisfied to stuff themselves, they want to do it to all of us and they do have critical mass. That makes them dangerous and not worthy of any of sympathy or understanding. Please make no mistake - if given the power, they would give you no quarter and they would gleefully do to you all kinds of harm in the name of the greater good.
In my opinion, the stakes will get higher as the jabs have clearly impaired the innate immune systems of probably billions. These people are not going to be happy when the reality will hit home (it is unavoidable for the great majority). Unfortunately, 99% of the population is of the kind that is mad that some managed to avoid the jabs - their anger will be mostly directed at the "anti-vaxxers" not because they the anti-vaxxers were wrong. On the contrary, because they were right and thus do not have to suffer with crippled immune systems. I have already seen it. Many of my former colleagues, who were stupid enough to get jabbed as soon as they could, are angry that I did not take any jabs and I have not had Covid. In the words of a couple of them - "It is not fair that you did not get inoculated whereas we had to do it to keep everyone safe". Is it rational thinking? No. By jabbing themselves they put everyone at greater risk of all sort of problems but that is all they are capable of, as far as I can tell.
Your guess was spot on - all my former colleagues have PhDs in different types of STEM. Clearly a PhD in science does not equate common sense & critical thinking. It is what it is and maybe they will wake up someday. On the other hand I have no doubt that our side will come out on top simply because we can still think critically whereas they cannot.
Categorizing - quacks and irresponsible, selfish lowlifes who endanger everyone. Analyse us? Not possible - they lack the capacity to think without being totally biased.
What is happening with those parents in the first place is immense stupidity: They are unfit for life, and if they manage to curtail their bloodline, so be it. The gene pool is getting sorted. Pity the kids if they are unable to resist, that is all.
THIS! 1000%.
Avoid them as much as possible - do not waste your time on them as they are beyond hope.
Amen!
Great reply! Couldn’t have said it better myself! I hope the kids stand their ground!
One of the greatest advantages of childhood is the ability to reject the religion of your parents.
Oh there are so many advantages of childhood .. but sadly, when too young children are unable to make their own informed decisions and many suffer in every way imaginable due to parental decisions and bias - parents will make value judgements based on their own perceptions .. bottom line is .. children who are unable to make informed decisions need PROTECTING and that is something we are not good at in Britain, despite “shouting from the rooftops” the excellence of our child protection and safeguarding teams! Child Protection MUST start from birth, l do not mean the “heavy handed engagement” but rather a softly, softly approach with good observation. It is my opinion that EVERY child should know that there is an “independent” adult who is easily accessible with whom they may consider the alternative narrative with ..
I do not agree. That same logic is used to take away parents rights to raise their children the way they see fit. That has been historically used to allow governments to step into personal freedoms as well as target members of families where parents are informed upon by the children. So no I don’t agree with you.
Utterly utterly agree. The government does not know what is best for YOUR child that YOU birthed. There is no soft approach. Also, parents have the right to indoctrinate their children. Like it or not. You may hate what they are teaching them, but it is none of your business.
You are right. Parents should have the right to execute their children if they so choose to.
Bad parents make bad decisions, but government is not the solution.
So what is the solution then?
Transparency so parents can make the educated decision how to best protect their children. Parents and rest of the public have been denied the truth.
Well it’s certainly not the government. What have you seen them do right, ever? We have a Constitution. It doesn’t say anything about governmental rights over parents.
The Constitution is indeed silent on that. At least the letter of the Constitution is, and the word "parents" is not mentioned at all. Granted. However, hiding behind that omission is problematic. Take the following two Amendments, to be used whenever the Constitution happens to be silent on something:
Amendment IX: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Amendment X: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The issue in question is neither delegated to the federal government nor prohibited to the States. And last I checked, children are people too.
And that's *before* we even get into the 14th Amendment either. Or international humanitarian law either, for that matter.
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If we had decent child protective services it would be wonderful, however they are many times worse than the parents. Foster parents who do it for money & don’t care about the kids, for example. It’s unfortunate that any idiot can birth a child but there’s not much we can do about it. We can try to have a society that lives by & teaches morals & ethics, but as you can see that hasn’t worked out very well either.
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The Rothbardian slope is indeed much slipperier than it appears. Those who wish to deny children human rights should be VERY careful what they wish for.
And by that, I mean Murray Rothbard.
They do have that right. It is sanctioned and promoted by the government.
What is sanctioned & promoted by the government? Unless it’s specifically spelled out in the Constitution, they don’t have the right or the authority.
I believe Raptor's comment was a clever dig at Debra's comment, most likely referring to abortion being legal. Even if it is a false equivalence.
Yukon Dave, you're right. Skye is also, to some degree, right. However, the child should be trained as part of his or her schooling how to research matters, using sites like PubMed (and dozens of others) as their source of information. The idea of an "independent" adult is interesting -- just think about WHO that independent adult would typically be. One only has to consider our school systems, universities and electorate to perform this thought experiment!
How many different kinds of logic does it take to determine that any given law is not lawful?
I didn't learn any new kind of logic when I learned to analyze legal writing, which requires only a grasp of what is correct and incorrect.
The same argument has been made by people who support sex change operations and other medical procedures without parental consent.
Parents should have the right to make stupid decisions, unfortunately.
Hello Rose
We are going to have to “agree to disagree” on this - No parent has the absolute right to knowingly offer up their child for medical research. Then to go into melt down when they realise the lifetime effects or indeed mourn a death. Am l hard? No l am a mother of two children - grown and flown to far flung places - l made the decision not to vaccinate my children. They caught all the “usual childhood diseases” survived along with their class mates and developed a very healthy immune response. We are well, slept well, exercised daily, stimulated our minds daily and had lots of fun too - lots of outdoor living and adventures produced very healthy children. No, l am not wealthy, we were just healthy. I should add a caveat here: my children were born healthy with no issues. So, l respect your opinion and welcome all different opinions to mine - with respect - without debate and looking at “the alternative narrative” how can we ever make informed choices?
Some kids don't win the parent lottery. That doesn't justify opening the door to massive govt meddling. One could inadvertently be advocating a system where the government overrides parents to jab kids. It can cut both ways.
Yes!
I have a son with WPW. I fought early vacations. 16 years I fought them. When he was in high school I gave in because they threatened
Expulsion. But I drew the line at the jabs. No long term safety data. That was the difference.
If not the parents then who should make the decision? Obviously no one should take covid shots, but in the case of say an experimental treatment for a serious disease, it is the parent who must give or refuse informed consent, because the child cannot and no one else can be trusted to.
And yet we are living in a world where the government WILL step in and take guardianship of your child if you refuse chemotherapy, or some life-saving surgery etc! :-(
Refusing shots is one thing, but when refusal of that leads to the state refusing to educate your kids, the hospitals refusing to let you in, or your boss refusing to let you work, then how many decisions currently ARE in the hands of the parents - or even the individual...? :-\
Our systems have massive cracks and have been hijacked by evil people!!!
Thats all true. Fortunately, most of the things that they are withholding have little actual value. Them withholding education would finally push us over the edge into homeschooling, the hospital refusing to let us in would keep us from services that seem increasingly sketchy, and I've definitely lost jobs before. Somehow by the grace of God we survived.
Exactly. But I'd still like to think that if I had a comminuted fracture in my leg that a hospital would put me back together? However, I'm not so sure these days. So I try to be careful - and we tell our kids to be careful - so that we won't GET to that point of needing to go to hospital!
As for the jobs and homeschooling stuff, we, too, have that sorted.
But most people take all this government 'care' for granted. It's only when they're the recipient of "you're not welcome to use our services unless you do XYZ first" that they question things...and even then, most still do the required XYZ... :-(
I think, very few people participate in our society willingly anymore. Most want to be less engaged with a society that, I think, disgusts us all in one way or another, but find it difficult to withdraw. I suspect that even more than 'dedollarization' and 'financial collapse' the people who run our society realize that debt is the only glue holding us together any more, which is why they work so hard to make sure that the people they need the most are in terrible debt. To be clear, financial solutions are only valid to financial problems and their are tons of problems that improved finances won't touch, but if your chains are made of debt get out of them as fast as possible. If your chains are modern conveniences and technology, find way loose. Don't let these people run your life, they will run it into the ground.
Unfortunately, involuntary participation in our society is why almost all of the things society provides are crap, because the providers are just providing as part of a get rich quick scheme and not cause they believe in what they are providing, they are just making money for their startup, or to flip houses or some other bozo plan, our civilization is a hollow shell, the Long March through the Institutions has succeeded but they have turned everything they conquered into garbage.
Our civilization is past its peak, we are on the backside of the civ curve, all of the virtuous feedback loops have become vicious, we have some control of the speed of our descent but no power to change the direction. We can take the Germanic route and burn down the Eternal City when it has rotted out, we can take the Chinese route and preserve Deep State mandaranism and functionaries as a mummified mockery of what was once alive.
But if we have any hope for new life then we must find once again a God who cannot be mummified, the God of the Empty Tomb
Yes, society IS hollow and meaningless. Even chit-chat with neighbours seems hollow afterwards these days.
I think we all need to study philosophy and the WHY of everything and ask a tonne of questions!! And spend time out in Nature, and just ENJOY what's nice about this world! Without all that, why bother?
You're right, we're on the downhill slide of civilisation's peak now. I've been aware of that for quite some time. And getting further and further into society, fashion, the MSM - it's all garbage. It really is. But I do like some of the modern conveniences (like dishwashers and washing machines & fridges!). Mobile phones I can do without. Computers are OK - just.
I want people to be REAL again, and our values to be REAL again. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure how real any of society has been my whole life, and I'm 44. Sometimes I think my grandparents got the best of it, even though they went through WWII. But anyway, we're here, and I guess we have to make the most of it!
I'm not sure that finding 'God' is necessarily the answer for everyone, but we DO need hope - and a better future.
Never Never give in. Never.
Once you do you have lost who you are.
Exactly. Which is why I keep fighting and finding new ways to keep moving forward.
I will NOT have imbeciles make stupid decisions for me or my kids!
Exactly.
That's a complicated topic. No kids shouldn't get sex change operations or hormone blockers without parental consent, but that doesn't mean parents should be allowed to volunteer their children for experimental drugs aka the vaccine. It depends on what the treatment is because many of us also think parents should not be allowed to determine and force genital surgery on children who are born hermaphrodites/intersex and yet there is a lot born though it is seldom talked about. Surgeons see these kids as money making guinea pigs where they force children with mild hypospadias to have genital surgery repeatedly, some almost every year of their life all so they can stand up to pee like a "normal" boy and make the child endure tremendous pain from repeated surgery and scar tissue. The same with children who have CAH they are forced by their parents and surgeons to endure what is basically medical rape.
I believe children should not make life changing decisions until they are 18. Then have it.
I have lived with my sons wpw. The risk of a pacemaker was too great for me. He’s 18 now. He can make that decision for himself.
How is the right to make stupid decisions different from the right to make intelligent ones?
They should be well warned to beware those who dress and talk strangely and recommend that they join in.
Most people desire to fit in, to belong. It's particularly critical during childhood years that they learn how to establish good friendships and to avoid the destructive ones. Parental role is to provide helpful guidance, encouraging open dialogue so that healthy choices are made. That becomes extremely difficult to do when the educational institutions are infiltrated by destructive influences that are supported and protected by the institutions and governments.
The child needs to be trained first and foremost by their parents, who have hopefully survived well enough to make good enough decisions. If they don't, miserableness ensues. Eventually, some kids down the ancestral line will react by making better decisions. Yes, they'll be damaged. But they'll also get on a better path.
For the lucky ones, the parents will make enough bad decisions that will not break their kids, but will nevertheless teach their kids to not trust other people, and then their kids will have a chance at truly changing things - because they question everything.
School is not the answer. University is not the answer. Government is not the answer. The answer has always been within ourselves. And the sooner everyone starts listening to their intuition, the better.
'Tis a shame, of course, for the littlies that are not yet old enough to either think or act for themselves - they are entirely at the whim of their parents. But, that is just how it is. Offspring are meant to be with their parents. That is how Nature works - for better or for worse. Bad parental decisions = unhealthy kids. Eventually those genetic lines will die out. Just give it time (although, yes, it is awful to watch that scenario unfold!!!).
I learned a very very important thing: even bad decisions parents make, are good to their children if those parents made the dicision with love for their children and because they sincerly thought they choose the best option for their kids.
So...very very important because this is what goes wrong and does indeed damage the kids: if the parents choose (partly?) what was best for themselves! And by far the most damage will be caused to their child if they also lie to child by stating their decision was made by them in the childs interest!!
And my guess is that you haven't thought about this facts, because you automatically choose for the best interests of your kids....then there is probably a while nobody on your list...than your partner/husband/wife/all mentioned before ;-)) and than maybe you have yourself listed next....
This is in fact the sad truth that the parents who don't think very much about the interests of others and unfortunately mostly even less of the interests of (their own) children, are the same peope who are not interested in parenting for the sake of their children and will not ever learn that thing of which I guessed you know very well: thinking about good parenting is thinking in the interests of your children and to do so, you need to think from the childs point of view and not your own. Of course to serve this childs point of view/skills/talents/interests you can and have to use your life experience, always combined with you love for your child.
And in your case...you know... automatically etc etc etc
Oh, I DO think a great deal about the best interests of our children, because I grew up in a single parent household where my mother made almost all decisions that suited HER. She changed our names and said we wanted them changed. We were 6 and 8. She made us be vegetarian and didn't think about the consequences of that. I got very little protein growing up. Ate way too much ice-cream and dairy products (and I'm allergic to dairy but no-one ever checked me for that as a kid!) as well as eggs to compensate, plus when I starting working at 14, I bought tuna and ham with my own money - and ate it outside because we weren't allowed meat inside the house! I also have asthma but was never checked for that. Fell on my backside and broke my coccyx but was never taken for an X-ray. Just sat on a cushion for a week. My first memory is of a broken collarbone and my mother saying "I know it hurts, darling" - and taking my skivvy off OVER my head instead of cutting the damned thing off! Money was a bit tight, shall we say? Our health came in a lowly 5th or 6th place I suppose. Got left alone a lot as kids/teenagers. My mum was out at work literally half the evenings each week. She never explained anything. She rarely stepped in when we were suffering. I'm not sure she knew how to? Occasionally I got a pat on the head. Was told I was loved about 3 times my whole childhood that I remember. I could give you hundreds of other examples, including being hit with a stick and called every name under the sun. So I know AAALLL about bad parenting. I experienced it far too much. However, we had a roof over our heads and I got a good schooling and I ended up with nice friends (who had nice families!) and so I got to experience surrogate families and what 'normal' family life is like - although I rather knew what I had was NOT normal! I just didn't know how to change it at the time. Nevertheless, lots of time, hard work and perseverance has shown me that you CAN change things a lot in just one generation.
My Mum is not a bad person. She's a product of her own parents, and never received enough love herself. Plus she's Asperger's. She was also the recipient of domestic violence which ended the marriage and left her a single parent at a time when most parents were 'happily married'. Yes, she made lots of bad calls - but she also made some very good calls in there. And we survived (although much of that was by luck, I think!). I understand it all now but it wasn't much fun going through it all, let me tell you! And I would NEVER put anyone through what I went through as a kid. If all kids went through what I went through I think most would've committed suicide by now, I honestly, do.
And no, my Mum still doesn't make great decisions and yes, she still makes them for herself. She's not changed. Both my parents are pretty selfish. Always have been. I understand this now. I guess I keep her at arm's length now. It's safer that way. But she still sees my kids and we talk a few times a week on the phone. She's still my mother, I suppose: not that I need mothering anymore because I'm well and truly grown up, and she wasn't much of a mother anyway, but there you have it.
My father, well, he's even less in my life these days! He has made some very bad calls yet could never understand why I was so screwed up by my childhood! Ha!!
Anyway, I won't say I'm a perfect parent, but I'm pretty good, and my kids are happy with me (I check in with them now and then to see and they are all still very happy with me!). We have also recently made a major geographical move to help them along, and they are glad for these changes. We are, too!
I think I've just done most things opposite to what happened to me growing up and we're in a pretty good place, ha ha!!
Sorry for the long post, Mig, but I just wanted you to know that I DO know how the other half lives - because that's what happened to me & my sister growing up. Our father had a shitty upbringing (violence, alcoholism, no money etc) and my Mum grew up in money, but had no love or even nice clothes. So I guess my sister & I were both starting out behind the 8-ball - but we've overcome a lot of obstacles to be better mothers than the last few generations our family have seen! We've made different decisions in there (she's pro-covid, I'm anti-covid etc) but we're both much more loving parents than those before us were. I guess it's complicated.
And it's not that my parents don't love me. They do! In their own ways. They just weren't much good at raising kids and should never had had them TBH.
Thank you for your story! I am blessed with the same background, and I knew this from the moment I red your comments, and enjoyed your immense positive power.
You needed it. To survive. And I think you are doing great, but that you are ready to put the crown on your work for yourself, and to do this is the best gift to yourself and even better for your children.
Let me try to explain to you what I mean.
You are the example to your children. The way you live is their way in future.
Doing things the opposite of what you know is bad, is better of course than doing them bad again. But opposites are in most cases the other side of the 'unbalanced' medal. There are like uncountable ways in between.
And just one is YOUR way. There is no such thing as parents that love you, or holy ways to do things. And if they do exist, the holy way IS your way.
The last step is to trust your own intuitions, thoughts, knowlegde and, most important: feelings. To wonder what it is you feel, and act accordingly.
Example: It is you that decide if your parents add something to your life that is valuable or not, and after that you can decide if they are worthwhile to meet your children, and if they are, how you can manage that they do not damage you or your children anymore.
You have not learned to be protected by your parents. But you must protect your children. And, very important, you cannot and must not protect your parents. That is their call. They are responsable for their own lives, and not you. You are not in the position to live their lives, but you must live your own for yourself and your kids.
Everybody that is not capable of loving you and worse if it wants yours, and even far far worse it gets when your children are being treated wrongly.
If something is not good, bad or a treat to you and or your children, is up to you.
If your parents love you, you can feel it. If you don't feel love for your parents in your heart, which is most likely in your situation, and you keep on tolerating damagable persons like your parents in your family, so will your children in theirs.
It is possible to think of what you want and do not want your parents do in your family. You can ask them and when they don't, they can have all reasons in the world, but that doesn't mean anything more than that to you. So you, nor your family, is going to pay the price for their problems anymore.
And what that is and how to do it? Try to think that you could choose anything in the world, and put yourself and your family first...
Believe me, this is harder to do than you think
But...believe me please on this one too: the rewards of developing yourself are unbelievably big, to you and to your children as well, really, automatically, you can almost litteraly see it happen on them the moment you choose your own choices..just because...they are yours!
With love to you, Mig
Yes, we made a decision to move 1000km north...and my mother recently moved 700km south of where we were (to be near my sister who moved there a year earlier)...so now we're 1700km apart in Australia - instead of 300km apart like we used to be! My Dad lives in southern California. We're just a tad spread apart in our family ha ha. I've got cousins all over the globe and aunts/uncles here and there, too.
We don't make our family decisions based on what's best for our parents. We do what's best for us and our kids. And our move has been a good one. Not perfect, but much better than where we were!
Ultimately, my hubby & I are just waiting for our parents to die. They're all in their 70s. They have some health issues. It's just how it is.
It's not easy growing up in the households we grew up in, Mig, this is true!!! But my hubby & I also know that WE need to grow, and we no longer live in our parents' shadows. We are our own people, and we have done a lot of work to get where we currently are, and we know there's still a lot more work to continue on down the paths we have chosen.
I love my intuition and I trust it greatly. And we have plans and ideas for our future, as well as providing opportunities for our kids, and we are slowly working towards our goals. It feels good :-)
Everything in the UK is pretty shit but we allow our leaders to constantly lie and big-up everything about "Great Britain" and yet really it is all lies.
Yes, but that usually happens when they are older and can think things through with more information. Not in childhood. My parents worshiped money at all costs. Their body, minds and souls utterly devoted. I rejected that. Very easy given the harm it caused. Mindless zealotry leads to very very bad things.
It is probably the very least exercised of the advantages of childhood, especially where indoctrination is begun at birth and carried into adolescence.
Children rarely know they are being "indoctrinated". For them it is normal life. And they are indoctrinated, so to speak, by everything since they are almost a blank slate and easily absorb what people say and do. Teachers, babysitters, parents, neighbors, other children...
Some people remain as children forever. They are eternally malleable and shift their "opinions" with every new thing/idea that comes along. You see it with the jab. Some do not want to know facts. They want a parent and willingly go along with their parent's POV. When people mature and gain the ability to reason and have a knowledge base they then can decide (right or wrong) which way is for them. Parent's way or another way. Hopefully parents instill wholesome virtues in their children and when they become an adult they will not depart from it.
Ignorance of one's being indoctrinated is directly related to overall ignorance in general.
If one hasn't seen enough of the world to determine whether any particular situation is normal or not, one won't have the mental database to demarcate the wheat from the chaff.
Well, Yes. Precisely. Children, the people who live in childhood, lack said database.
I read my mother's nursing textbooks in 6th grade, having entered 1st grade reading at a third grade level with a junior high school vocabulary. I didn't lack said database.
I congratulate you on your superior nature, mind and general abilities to suss out the truth in all things at such a young and tender age Vonu. You are a rare one.
I really don't think I was as different as the opportunities that my mother and eight year older sister gave me by starting to read to me as soon as I was home from the hospital and not stopping until I could read to them. By the time that most get to first grade, they have been dulled by watching unchallenging television babysitters.
The children are in my opinion just as aware as their parents. And children are less indoctrinated then grownups, because the simple fact they are younger.
It is very well possible to learn a child validate what grown ups are telling them. And it is even possible to learn them to talk about it with you the parent, and not for instance the teacher. The teacher is going to chance your child instead of her-or himself, and then your child is 'lucky'. Mostly those teachers become mad as hell and stay so forever, denying it ofcourse, but they can't help it, because they are afraid of a child that sees who they really are, and that is something they themselves wish to avoid completely on a full-time basis from the moment they became almost aware of themselves
Your use of "learn" indicates your juvenility.
I don't think that Mig's first language is English so one incorrect word in an otherwise totally understandable post is neither here nor there.
(Maximium apologies if I am confused here Mig)
I don't know if you are confused, and if you are, I am as well.
I think Vonu is talking from just a little bit an different point of view. It might still be possible you actually would agree when understanding each others reasons to your comments.
The reasons Vonu have are not as much clear to me as yours, but I think Vonu probably means as well as you do.
Vonu commented and I cititate litteraly:
-'You shouldn't let it bother you since there are plenty of native born Americans with advanced degrees that don't do any better.'-end of citate
Doesn't Vonu say in this comment that when comparing my knowledge of the english language to that of native born Americans with advanced degrees, that I know as much as those native Americans...?
Because that seems like an enormous compliment to me! I just grew some inches because of it ;-)
I'm actually saying that you are doing a better job of applying your knowledge of English than those who are manifestly better equipped to do so.
Now I am growing another inches! And almost start to being arrogant and walking next to my shoes as well...
Thank you so much for that, it doesn't happen to me very often or easily that I feel proud of anything I did, but in fact now I do!!
What if the one incorrect word prevents an understandable post?
It didn't though.
I wouldn't have known without clarification, not being psychic.
Thank you for recommenting on my comment. Could you please tell me more about what you mean by 'indicating' my juvenility. I am really curious, because it is probably meaningful and at least interesting to know (learn;-)!) your explanation. And with 'explanation' I do mean just what you were thinking, and only if you want/like to write it down for me, but if not, I understand and I am okay with wathever you choose:-)
Educated adults don't learn others, they teach them.
Aha thank you for clearing that up to me!
I am an educated adult I guess and I am in fact also coincidently a teacher for teenagers with big and or many problems,- or as I prefer to describe them is 'as young people surrounded by other people with problems for too long'.
I am natively dutch, so I am writing in a, to me, foreign language.
The way I used the word 'learn' -as like versus the word 'teach'- is probably the dissapointing result of my small knowledge of the english language ;-))
Although your are completly right about my mentally young age anyway!
I will never 'grow up' like most other adults I suppose. I am almost fifty years old now, so I guess it is not going to happen anymore anyway. I am perfectly okay with that now, but easy it isn't most of the time, and nowadays I am okay with that inconvience too;-)
You shouldn't let it bother you since there are plenty of native born Americans with advanced degrees that don't do any better.
I say, "Amen" to that!
I say "Amen" to that!
Amen
She wouldn't be appalled if they wanted to switch their sex or preferences. What a totally brainwashed nut she is.
She looks like the kind of imbecile that would have confessed to thought crimes in the 1930's in the Soviet Union. The fact that she had kids is SCARY, though granted, in this case the kids turned out have two working neurons.
How do you know that?
Don't be a complete moron. She's on MSNBC and is a vaxtard. Of course she's going to applaud and support trans mental illness.
You must have been looking in a mirror when you posted that strictly ad hominem comment.
Emanuel just lied when he said the jabs prevent serious illness and death. The facts say otherwise. He should be banned from life for spreading misinformation
Banned “from” life. I like that. Many actually need to be banned from life. Let’s start with————- (fill in the blank).
Fauci goes first. And it has to be very publicly done.
Like they tried to do to us.
Isn't that exactly an excellent argument for NOT doing it? To me it is.
I do agree on them must be taking away from our society, and locked up forever.
They didn’t get us. Last year was the toughest year of my long life. Everything I thought was true blew up in my face. That may have to happen to all the blind ones before they get it and it might be much worse for them.
All first and second level management at HHS, DOD, FDA, CDC, DOJ and all of the military branches.
He also lied in saying that an N95 will stop the spread. There is data to the contrary.
"better than nothing" is not the same as "it works" - and even the "better than nothing" claim is a tad controversial.
He is the equivalent of the witch doctor that sell potions to "smart" customers that makes them impervious to bullets (this actually happened and the "customer" got a Darwin award).
Not "banned for life", but rather, "banned from life", as in executed.
I picked that up. Thought it was clever. (Can’t find my wink emoji)
😂💯👍🏻
Zeke Emanuel, dual Israeli citizen.
She would have ratted out her neighbors hiding some Jews in Nazi Germany in the 1940’s
Would?
Or will?
There are those parts even of the US where that is not half as far off from coming reality as we would like to think.
I know
Indeed, and that's horrifying!
And in the rest of at least 'the wester' countries too!!!!
She probably ratted out her neighbors for having a party when numbers of people were restricted or businesses that weren’t forcing masks a year or so ago
Reminds me of the old lady who called the police because her neighbor was walking around her own backyard sans clothing.
When the police asked how she could tell the neighbor was naked at that distance, she showed them her binoculars.
Although this is real-life horror of course, it is extremely funny the way the stupid evil lady shows where she really stands for: nothing in general, and evilness just when it comfortably shows up. Juch. Yek. Brrr scary people really nobody needs or to expect anything good of ever. For sure as well. Groce
Indeed, some Karens who did that even had the GALL to BRAG about doing so in a Medium article!
We had a thing in the UK where people made up their own rules during lockdown and then "debated" about how bad people were for "breaking the rules".
For example - he went out twice today to the shop to purchase unessential items.
You were allowed to go to the shop and buy whatever they would sell you.
I was going to say she would have loved East Germany and grassing her neighbours up to the Stasi.
Probably snitched on her neighbour trying to get a breadth of fresh air without the mask on.
When she found a joint in her daughter’s drawer, she called the police. Oh wait, I forgot cannabis is now legal.
Yes this kind of people exists. But I cannot possibly imagine what is guiding those satanic soulles look-a-like people
While I do not believe any use of recreational drugs to be either good or healthy, a parent who outsources her responsibilities to the police has abandoned all pretense of moral authority.
It's not a parent's job to enforce the law, but to teach her children right from wrong. That means what happens in the family stays in the family.
Of course! The police is to be called only when a life is in danger and the police can probably save it. That kinds of things. And protecting your children is against every threat for every individual, so that includes policemen as well. ;-))
Who did? The blondie in the video?
I had a similar experience in college. My mom was concerned about the weed and other stuff. Her cousin Sylvia, wife of a Jewish gangster, was friends with Harry Anslinger who was considered the great godfather of the war on drugs. So Harry recommended my mom take me to the Georgetown Free Clinic where we we met with hippie psychiatrist Bert Schoenfeld MD. After talking with me, Bert told her that he’d be a lot more concerned if I was not participating in these illicit activities. After that she never nagged about it again.
In the years that have followed I’ve learned a whole lot about Mr Anslinger and his passionate battle with Mother Nature. But I’ll always appreciate the thoughtful advice he provided 50 years ago.
I’ve felt the same way for many years. Envisioning an awakened state of being at a young age prompted a search down many avenues that were off the everyday beat and path. And all these years of being devoted to the truth (inner and worldly) brought me to one direction - always let the heart be my guide. I often consider this is how I ended up seeking out fellow freedom warriors. While it’s often a challenge to face the madness that’s all around, the company I’ve found myself in is wonderful!
While going through a fairly deep dive into the rabbit hole about 10 years ago after starting to question the 9/11 narrative, I mostly remained quiet since there were so few others who could even listen. But then in 2020 the scamdemic appeared - for me and some other truth seekers simply refused to just shut up and comply. No freaking way was I going just let these crooks have their way.
In the process it really felt like I was a stranger in a strange world and began finding people in online forums to share our understandings. I found the Brave New Life people who held bi-weekly Zoom meetings and reached out to anyone who lived nearby. Everything led to becoming part of a thriving freedom community full of some of the most intelligent, interesting and decent folks I’ve ever met.
What I’m getting at here is simply a recommendation to anyone who has found themself in this kind of predicament - Don’t be shy about reaching out. I honestly feel we are all going through a transformation of human awareness that’s just as exciting as it is uncertain. I’ve found it best to stay connected with the heart as much as possible…… and by all means seek out the company of those who feel the same. Heaven on earth might be right around the corner 🎆 https://youtu.be/sZpZuIWu1tw
Dear Victoria,
You wrote, and I citate:
'When my mother found a joint in my dresser drawer, she cried for days until I agreed to see a psychiatrist!' End of citate
This is about your mother emotional blackmailing you, her daughter, to force you to do what she wants. This is a very damaging action of your mom towards you!
I am really happy you went accidently to one of the very few psychiatrist who exactly know what they are doing, and who are therefore capable of actually helping people instead of suppoting the damagable behaviour to you, which I see still happens all the time everywhere.
If your parents are mentally ill, it is for children maybe better to decide important things on their own instead of their parents.
I feel with you for this because my mother is also mentally ill and or was indeed very damageble to me. At the age of thirteen I wanted her to take responsability for what she has done: had me been born, putted me on this earth, while she herself prefered doing things in life all but with me. I concluded that I was a burden to her as well as to myself. She said she couldn't help it, I tried all but couldn't either. She was to blame for my existance so I asked her to undo that. I couldn't care less how she would do it, but all about that she would (un)do it.
She forced me to see a psychiatrist a too and I guess I saw about 10 at least and even more other mental healtcare workers. All bad, only how much of a threat they were to my mental health varied a little bit from a little bit bad to lifethreatened.
So the moment a realised I had not to expect anything good from 'mental health care' and my mom ofcourse took no responsability at all, so I must live with what I got. And with what I got I promised myself to make the best out of the situation. That was sometimes hard, and mostly impossible but I made it, I guess, if I keep on trying to grow mentally, I remain on the right track.
I learned enough to know one thing:
If a child decides to chance gender (sex) without informing his or her parents, every essential minimal loving care every child needs, has not been present in this childs life.
Therefore I think it is necessary to first lovingly 'built' the child, by having the child supported and loved the parents should have done, or some other way to lovingly teach the child the lacking emotional skills, and whatever the child is lacking more.
When this had been done like the child understands what is done wrongly to it, that his or her parents didn't know any better, or didn't want to know any better and which this means for him or her.
When this is clear, the child can make his own decisions, but before this moment, his or her decisions all tend tend to scientifically and genetically have the goal, in one way or the other, to get his or her parents to do whatever they should have done: and that is approving of their child, love and supporting it unconditionally
Your are very welcome.
I am not save nor peacefully living. I cannot explain here publicly because I might be recognised by some bad people and that could be very dangerous not only for me, but even more to others.
This is also why I am trying to clear some things up for you.
This is not about labelling people but about you being able to see who and or what is a threat to you.
Example: a question: did, after your joint discovery by your mother which made her cry for days, nothing happen in your life the same bad or even worse?
Example another question: was your mom relieved by the fact the psychiatrist found out there was nothing wrong with you?
And another: did your mom feel better after seeing the psychiatrist?
And a very different question: were you in need for attention of your mother at the moment she found your joint, when looking deeply in your heart?
I smoked weed once and my mother noticed and never said something about it in my whole life. In the beginning I was relieved, but when I noticed she was going to completely ignore it, I felt very very disappointed. If your mother doesn't talk about her daughter smoking weed, in my opinion proved again she didn't care. Which is actually true indeed I know now
But it can be all completely different in your situation!
The world has gone mad mate, utterly fucking bonkers!
And now they are vax victimisers.
I was shocked and appalled my kids didn't want to further destroy their immune systems and face a life of increased vulnerability to disease or the possibility of sudden death...WTF is wrong with them!
It is also probably something along the line - "They are so irresponsible and inconsiderate to endanger ME by not being jabbed to their eyeballs".
You really want to know THE PARENTS and what is wrong with them, their PARENTS it’s a sadly declining generational melee!
Lies, lies and more lies. Kudos to the 'young and invincible' who see through the propaganda. Let's hope they pull off the masks, too, and refuse the antisocial distancing propaganda he's still pushing.
Amen to that!
I was disgusted at 17 seconds. Couldn't finish it.
you are forgiven :-)
I almost threw up also
I went a little further but was getting to furious to keep going.
Aww you guys by the end I was laughing. These people are ridiculous clowns. 🤡
Agreed and clowns can be scary and dangerous. I was thinking along those lines when I watched the clip of Joe Rogan and hoetz.
Hmmm I haven’t seen that but I know just what you mean. I’m gonna check it out. That is the flip side of course. There is perhaps much more damage to come. It’s tragic. But it’s also just history. They are exposing themselves and more and more people are done with it all. Maybe I’m naïeve but I am more optimistic than ever.
I don’t remember who posted it in their Substack . Short but telling.
Ditto
Hotez.
Nope, this is so bad, it is not even funny. Just my opinion.
How is covid mania in Holland?
Is it much like the US? shunning of family if you do not go along with the regimen and narrative?
Well we have definitely been shunned by family, so there’s that. It’s stupid and hurtful but there’s also plenty of people who didn’t do that so I feel it’s pretty even Steven. Despite all the propaganda I think people already have the character they have. Some percentage will bow down and some percentage will say 🖕🏼
Yep, like a cheap, crummy horror show. Thankfully it was shortish in length and immensely instructive in the depth of human depravity.
You are a hero. That is something that is not whitin my reach untill now. If I see that myself, I am litterly ill for weeks and it remains in my head hurting like for ever...:-((
I did not say it was easy. However, one needs to have a look at the other side from time to time because that way, one can come up with more effective ways to counter their BS.
Exactly! I know! And that is why you are my hero, because you 'bite the dust'. If 'to bite the dust' is an existent proverb, but you seem to know a lot anyway, so what I mean by that must be easy for you to understand I guess;-)
You are too kind. I am just a husband and father that wants a good life for my wife and kids. Sometimes that means I have to do things that I would normally NOT do but that is real life I guess.
Münchausen syndrome by proxy is the real pandemic
Oohhh good one! So true.
BINGO
So true and so sad!
And then the most complex form I guess
Seems to be true. Didn’t work with her kids. Up next—rat poison in their cereal?
Let’s not entertain for a second that her children might have a point.
I'm actually quite proud of her children that they are able to look at the information from both sides and make an informed decision because too many young people and older adults didn't even investigate the info before rolling up their sleeve.
Why is a mother making an appt for vaccination for a 22 year old “child”? Secondly, these days THE LAST PERSON I WOULD TAKE MEDICAL advice from regarding the experimental biologicals is a DOCTOR!!!! They are unable to give truthful advice due to loss of earning a living. They have been gagged.
It's not uncommon for the children to continue living with the parent(s). Mothers tend to continue being caregivers to them providing cooking, cleaning, laundry and other freebee services including Personal Assistant to book medical appointments. LOL !!
Yep, the medical community has managed to destroy its reputation in record time. I would have more faith in a shaman when it comes to medical advice. The doctors nowadays make "escorts" look honourable.
This pathetic line of reasoning is so easily destroyed at this point that I feel laughing is the only response.
I wish I could laugh but they're still causing harm to so many by their words and twisted or controlled thinking. They are actually affecting our lives by their lies and/or ignorance. Those people that have been jabbed with one or 5 or 6 (I don't know how many there are anymore), have jobs that we need them to do. Yes, perhaps selfish on the one hand, but because of all their arrogance, selfishness, stupidity, obedience, etc. our lives, the economies, everything could fall apart. How do we get food when the truckers, food processors, manufacturer workers are all dead? How do children get educated when the teachers have gotten all these shots and start getting sick? What's going to happen? There are endless questions that have no answers. This is beyond insane.
God knows what is going to happen. God is in control of it all. We are not. Because humans have forgotten God, and think they are in control, we have all this chaos. The evil Elites imagine they rule the world and us.
True, the hubris humanity has shown...we think we can control disease and climate change. Long after we are gone, and even if we poison the planet...the planet will remain, and we will be like a blink in the eye in existence.
Or health care when in pain !!
NonVaxxed need to wake up soon.
Hard times for all are coming.
Get out of cities !!
Amen to that! However, it’s not that easy for all to do - your advice is excellent, but l would say “find like minded folks” stick with them and if you cannot escape cities make emergency evacuation plans, speak to relatives, friends, look at easily reachable safe areas - prep, prep and prep with emergency supplies including medication .. have all bags packed safe and ready - keep your vehicle fuelled up .. buy power packs for mobiles and first aid kit. Wind up radios, torches and batteries and do not forget ignition! T lights and a shovel .. l have done all this and more, tested it out in my car as to the fit and speed l can load it .. and don’t forget you may not be alone - so get acquainted with road maps and a compass - use smaller roads, lock all doors and stop for no one. I have a gravity fed water purifier and a decent all weather fast pitch tent. NO! None of us thought/ imagined this would come to be in our lifetimes .. but it was inevitable that “having eaten from the tree of knowledge” we over cultivated our intellect and neglected our emotional and spiritual growth, giving up
our duty as custodians of our truly amazing planet and the natural world - with all its incredible species on land and in the air and sea - We are now facing the unimaginable horrors of Armageddon!
Unvaccinated are pretty much already awake, at least I think we are.
I think a lot of us realize that a lot of hard times are coming. I could be wrong, but at least here in Georgia we are no longer being pressed to get vaccinated.
But then again, you are probably talking about the consequences of vaccination, and I would agree. I have loved ones who vaccinated and boosted, and now are sick or sicker than they were before.
I absolutely share your concern about societal collapse. That being said I have found the only way to cope is a fervent desire is to watch it burn. A phoenix will rise from the ashes and by all accounts it’s going to be beautiful. A world we deserve.
The "Great Reset" is coming, but its scriptwriter will not be Klaus Schwab; rather it will be John the Revelator.
That being said, there is a curious comfort in that. We at least know there's a good ending to it all.
Yes. What keeps me going and praying for discernment.
I hope you're right. I appreciate you're positiveness. I can't even imagine what's going to happen before that. This is so complicated and intertwined.
Ultimately, all we ever have is faith.
"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?" - Matthew 6:25-27
It may not be much, but on most days it's enough.
I repeat to myself often a scripture “ You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,nor the plague that destroys at midday.”from Psalm 91. It calms me down. Got me through some horrible days when forces ramped up to take our lives away summer of 2021. Family and friends were part of that.
My go to is Psalm 23. Quiets the mind in a noisy world!
Oh yes!! Especially the first part ending with “he restores my soul”.
Nice. But in the meantime, we have our guns and bullets.
The cartridge box is the solution for when the ballot box and the jury box fail to respect the inalienable rights that come to us from the hand of God.
And neither the jury box nor the ballot box have been particularly respectful of late.
We all have our good and bad periods. It’s totally normal during this crazy planetary shift. I figure, I needed positivity when I was down, happy to share mine when I am up. Thank goodness for substack and being able to give and take!
Good point--it certainly seems unavoidable these days. I used to always wish I lived at another time in history. But there is always something. So this is it for us...
I have these exact thoughts everyday. The only thing that helps is laughing.
I sympathize, trust me. I'm still losing my mind.
You're lucky you can laugh. It's great that it helps you. I hope I can get to that point. I'm not there yet. Laughter does relieve stress. That's for sure. When the two people I know on my street died from these shots it was very hard to deal with knowing they died at the hands of others. So, it's hard for me to laugh. Yesterday, I was talking with someone I know who just had a baby about 5 months ago and they recently had to bring him to hospital. She said to me, "that RSV is rough stuff". I couldn't say a word but I wanted to scream. Too much stress. I do need a few good laughs.
Okay then... I have a joke about vaccination, but most people on here won't get it.
Good one Billy! It took me about 30 seconds to get it!
Lay it on us, Billy😁
It doesn't take luck to laugh, a lot of times it is a necessity. You can laugh or you can cry, or go off into a dark place. I don't think hope enters into it for those of us who can laugh, who need to laugh. We just HAVE to. Like in the old Jimmy Buffett song "If we didn't laugh we would all go insane."
We may not know people who died on our street, but we see them as statistics daily now. The injuries keep piling up like rationalizations. I have spoken to the injured, and we share something with them in that like us unvaccinated, we are largely ignored or discarded.
Recently on Twitter, someone was posting that "red states" did worse than blue ones in regards to Covid. Even now he was making political points. I wanted to counter with all cause mortality for states that adhered to the vaccination regimens and those that did not...but we are already seeing a lot of those statistics.
In the end though, no one wins. The losses are great and keep piling up. Red Team and blue team, vacc and no vacc team, it all blurs together after a while.
Agree. It's about humanity and those who start dividing us into red, blue, this religion, that one or none at all, etc. are guilty of creating hate, too. This is about good vs evil. And, to show how stupid these morons who talk about red vs blue, I know plenty of injured and dead people in a "blue" state. And, NYC would have been considered a pretty bad place to get covid. But, these morons don't even know that the reality is most people died of other things (especially dangerous hospital protocols) not covid.
To paraphrase an old story.
A man was depressed and went to a counselor to get help.
The counselor remembered that he had seen an ad for a comedian that night.
He said why don’t you go see Jimmy Dore tonight.
To which the man replied. “I am Jimmy Dore.”
Injured and non injured alike, we all need each other’s support.
To every problem you named but the damage of vaxx itself there is a possible solution.
I think that when we need those solutions, we are going to be aware of creating a lot of dysfunctioning systems, especially for our kids and teens. Lots of room for progress is what I can think of, don't worry until you have to. And if you have to? You don't have time to worry because you can work on a solution. Thats is called life and I guess you will be equiped fully to handle it all perfectly, even if you aren't equiped at all.
You can do it, and if not, nobody can and think of something else.
Have faith in yourself, that is still possible, unless you just became an idiot or an arsehole yourself but technically it is not really possible to change your character, the chance of winning the lottery is far bigger.
So just take it easy and take good care, probably the same as ever, and relax...
you are probably right...
Same here I was set to feel upset by this delusional mother but in the end I just laughed at the crazy 🤡
I have an issue with the use of the word reasoning - these two creatures are incapable of it and in all truth they probably never had the capacity in the first place. My shoes probably have more reasoning capacity. Still, the problem is that there are way too many of these imbeciles around and that is how the mandates and all the absurd "measures" could be enforced.
Her kids probably told her "fuck off, Mom. It is now common knowledge these jabs kill. Are you up-to-date with your will and life insurance?"
She would probably leave her estate to "Saint Fraudci" or other totally trustworthy and munificent organizations like the IRS.
I couldn't even watch that whole video. My blood was starting to boil from anger and disgust. Such twisted thinking is mind boggling to me.
wowww
what happened to the kids? How did this "evolve"
Those oldsters do not like deviating from the plan, so I am sure this mom is in a lot of pain.
Perhaps she is even feeling disrespected and full of shock and grief.
These kids are going to die and weight of the cause will be on her shoulders.
I need to look around the nets, but hubbs read somewhere that the millennials are totally disrespecting their parents. I guess that works both ways
My daughters and their hubbies and children are shotting fully.
Hubbs and I are not sure we want to be around all of that shedding either.
So perhaps that is .... well, what it is.
Yes, this is sad, sorry to hear
Shedding is a serious concern.
and now, tainted blood banks. The same crap was done with HIV.
Yep. I lose hearing, and occasionally develop dizziness when around the shedders. Good thing these effects depart quickly.
My brother and his family fist bumped me the last time they came to visit. Before then it was all hugs. I didn't press it, it made me sad. Made me wonder if there was talk of the unvaccinated plague spreader. Even worse, I didn't want to know the answer to the question, but I am sure his whole family was vaccinated.
Don't worry about it. At least they're fist bumping you and not being absolute morons and disowning you. It's not their fault the governments/health agencies deliberately chose to suppress any information that would provide adequate, proper informed consent. An honest set of authorities would have laid out the pros and cons, the risks/benefits, the knowns and unknowns. Instead they scared the bejeeves out of the population and made them all believe the mRNA injectable Kool-Aid was their only choice for salvation, to avoid death. (I thought I was being smart by waiting several months. nope!). By now they know something isn't quite right as they line up for their fourth or fifth dose. Elon Musk freeing Twitter has opened a large community portal to the uncensored side of truths that allows many more to observe and realize the deceptions from those government and health authority agencies.
I think your right about the fist bumping thing, with a few caveats.
I think we all are responsible for our agencies lying to us. If we are a government for the people by the people, then ultimately, as the cliche goes, get the government we deserve. Somewhere along the line, we screwed up. Originally the institutions like the CDC, the NIH and others were created to provide recommendations and information that would allow us to make informed decisions. The danger is at some point the institution thinks it knows better than the people it dispenses information to what the best course of action is. They also make other determinations, like which information is even good for us.
Here is an exercise in common sense. What is the risk reward for a person age 0-19 to get a vaccine with a .0003% fatality rate? What about .506% for someone 60-69 years of age? What about .123% for someone 50-59 years of age.
The thing is, I'm not even sure if we need authorities at all, but rather servants. We have to stop thinking about our government in terms of "authority" at all. The problem is when we start thinking we know better than others what is best for them, and come instead to them with humility. But we know humility is in short supply. When was the last time the government or anyone in authority apologized for anything?
And it's our fault, we let this go on way too long.
They tried to scare the bejeeves out of the population. My problem is that I've been a scared wimp most of my life so I recognize irrational fear when I see it. And I knew that the fact that we could pinpoint a date when our country locked down was an indicator that this was imaginary and not real. In a real pandemic, the chaos would preempt the imposition of order, not the other way around.
I completely agree.
This is criminal. We elect these people, and then they give themselves huge salaries
well you plucked a nerve, Woody
my daughters and hubbies are behaving like absolute morons and disowning us.
My younger daughters hubb is a super control freak.
They won't see you at all? Do they usually spend the holidays with you and not so much this time around?
I spent Christmas alone again this year. Last year I was in the hospital recovering from an amputation, this year I spent it alone due to logistics of going anywhere again due to my amputation.
that is terrible Jimmy that you do not have a caring family to come and care for you and love you.
Hubbs and I were shut out of younger daughters Christmas. She invited my sister over but not me and hubbs. We are "a problem"
So your sister is vaccinated and you're not? No matter how this pans out, it is not going to end well. Here's something she needs to explain to you, why did she exclude you from Christmas for not being vaccinated when getting vaccinated doesn't provide or confer any protection?
As far as myself goes, a lot of terrible is my responsibility. I probably could fill a book with all that I did (or didn't do) to be treated the way I am treated. I am the architect of my own destiny here.
it is not about the vaccinations.
It is all about how they have been vaccinated and they vaccinated their infant and toddler children. Before they did that, I sent them some information (I am an RN retired) about the quackzines and they were offended. ALSO, my son in law developed severe headaches some months after their vaccines. It turns out he has papilledema and had to undergo many many invasive tests. I sent him information on VAERS and he exploded. Okay so I went too far but I was not pushy and sending a barrage of emails but he just went nuts. So since then I have been completely banned from the family and the children.
😪🙏
Oh that is very sad. Our governments and health authorities intentionally drove a wedge between those who question and those who accept whatever they are told....
The kids watched Died Suddenly on their phone.