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I smelled the rat in 2019 and was educated by George Webb. By January 2020 I knew the fix was in. As a physician in the Apex of my career I have 25,000 patients most of which thought I was a Normie. First off I boldly spoke on the radio weekly for four hours espousing do not trust vaccinations. You are not a laboratory rat. Secondly, I thought Covid virus itself was bogus, which I’m certain most people even your intelligent audience could understand. Anyway, I told every patient every acquaintance every person in a grocery store or pharmacy don’t take the shot. It will give you blood clots cancer and destroy your immune system. I also prescribed ivermectin and hydroxycloraquin to anybody. Of course, I got investigated, but they couldn’t argue with me by my merely sticking to the fact that this is experimental and it has not been tested and there is no emergency you people were intentionally killing people. Sadly, it continues to today.

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Kathryn O'Connor's avatar

Wow!! I would love to have you as my doctor!!! Your patients - and everyone who knows you - are very fortunate people!!!

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Edwin Muir's avatar

BE SURE TO BE GIVING THE REQUIRED SINCERE THANKSGIVING .

1 Thessalonians 5:18

“In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. luke 10:19 KJV”

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Steghorn21's avatar

God wasn't there. It was brave humans who fought against this.

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Edwin Muir's avatar

Isaiah 42:22 “But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.” DEAR Saints, be among they who command deliverance in *JESUS* all powerful Name , Decree restoration Job 22:28 , as we know who the theives are ! Evil spirits using atheist Globalists AGENDA 30, DEPOPULATION. SPIRIT OF LUCIFER ON CANE murdered Able. Be Bold!

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Edwin Muir's avatar

True repentance shall bring mercy, but no guarantees of no chastening. For whatsoever is not of faith is sin. 2 Tim 1:3. And wrinkles will be ironed out of all our garment,s so we are not ashamed on that day. Rev 6:10,11, Malachi 4:3. 1 Corinthians 15:52

“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” Getting offended is a NO,NO! to a dinkum Christian. Ask Paul and Silas Acts 16:22 to 28. Again in 14:19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead. 20 Howbeit, as the disciples stood round about him, he rose up, and came into the city: and the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe. 1 Corinthians 10:13, Proverbs 16:1-3 KJV “The preparations of the heart in man--walk in the light beloved. Jude 20 kjv & Ephes 2:5,6 = Gal 2:20 so Luke 11:13 & revel in Rev 5:6 > Isaiah 11:2 of the Seven Spirits sent at any Saints request 1 John 5:14,15 > Ps 149 XO,

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Bandit's avatar

How wonderful it would be to have a doctor like you. Instead of the money/vaccine happy one I fired. Now, I have no doctor.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

I “have” a doctor but won’t ever go back to see him. In fact I will never trust doctors again. I take care of myself but I know that one day I’ll need medical attention and when I do I’ll go the holistic route….

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If you learn Chinese Traditional Medicine, Orthomolecular medicine and Ajurvedic medicine you may never need a doctor ever again. It's been more than ten years since I didn't need one. I don't know much about Ajurvedic medicine but the first two were enough to allow me to " doctor" myself from literally anything including covid. I encourage you to learn about the first two kind of medicine. The vitamins, supliments, healing herbs and mushrooms will be your best friends. They will keep you out of trouble and healthy for a long time.

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Paul Kemp's avatar

I finally found some very complete sources of orthomolecular nutrition in January 2013 and haven't had so much as a cold since. No Covid, nothing except the aches of arthritis at 74 and I'm working to remedy that with nutrition. Wish more people would start investing in solid nutrition, avoiding the junk foods, toxics, glyphosate, so they could enjoy their Golden Years like they should! Funny how this precious Truth is now labeled "misinformation"!

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Paul Kemp's avatar

Thanks for this info about boron, which is included in the supplements I take, though perhaps not sufficient to counter years of insufficiency. I'll work on beefing up the amounts of boron and other necessary minerals, etc., that are needed for my body to repair itself. (That has worked in the past for me.)

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Joanna's avatar

Yes. I get osteopathic manipulative treatments too. Many D.O.s doing good work out there.

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K.Lib4's avatar

I had one doctor in early 2021 who, when trying to convince me to get the shots, told me that the mRNA technology has been used in veterinary medicine for 100 years. 100 years?!? She was either lying or stupid, so I couldn’t go back. The next guy almost pulled a muscle with the biggest and most condescending eye roll when I told him I had had covid and wasn’t getting the shots. I guess he’s still my doctor, but I don’t trust him and I have no plans to go back.

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David Rinker's avatar

Incompetence and fraud are not the monopoly of modern medicine, rather an innate part of the human condition. This includes holistic medicine, think snake oil. Best to do your own thinking and research, and take the best of both.

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Andy Expresso's avatar

For sure, unless I am mangled in a auto accident. I will take care of myself. There is way more information available for us that its now possible without much effort.

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Overcomer's avatar

Dito that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Overcomer's avatar

Nebulize with H2O2 and never get another virus, ever. No sinus problems/ stuffy nose/ sinus infection etc. https://archive.org/details/1-rapid-virus-recovery-by-dr.-thomas-levy/page/11/mode/2up

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Joanna's avatar

Me too.

I’m thinking next year if everything is going along as usual I will cancel my Medicare.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Yep. I fired mine too. I wrote them a letter asking them how they sleep at night.

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Bandit's avatar

I just didn't go back.

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Nancy's avatar

Naturopaths are generally anti vaxx. But around here, don’t take insurance and we can’t pay $350.00 and upwards for an appointment. Had great alternate meds for 40 years. Through death or retirement they are gone. Now that I need that am with a traditional one who can’t understand why I never got the jab and won’t take osteo drugs! Got sickof interviewing drs. She keeps me in B12 shots and checks thyroid often. So I’ll stay for now. My energy dr(no insurance) treats all problems. Will be list if she leaves!

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Zade's avatar

My primary doc is an idiot. Probably on her tenth "booster".

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Nancy's avatar

🤣

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Insurance. You and most consumers want the coverage to keep out of pocket expenses down. But for insurance coverage most all insurance carriers will only cover practitioners who are regulated by the state. They say they don't want to pay claims to Bob's Garage Clinic, fraud prevention. Which, at some level makes sense. But...with state regulation comes state mandates. And with insurance comes the same exact corporate entities that push the jabs in the first place.

Traditional Naturopathy ABHORS shots, injections of any kind. Petrochemical Big Pharma products of any kind. The naturopathic Doctors and schools they go to that expanded into giving injections are NOT real naturopaths. To the degree that they integrate traditional naturopathy into their practices they are good, better than MD's. But when they cross over into allopathic medicine giving injections and writing prescriptions they are no longer what their name implies. They are by definition allopathic practitioners who use naturopathic remedies.

And if any alternative healing modality takes insurance, like licensed chiropractic, accupuncture, homeopaths, etc, that means they have taken on a silent partner in their businesses with veto power and the ability to mandate their care they provide you. Licenses, certifications and registrations are permissions from government. And what government giveth, government can taketh away.

Think about during the pandemic when businesses were forced to close. It wasn't unlicensed businesses that they could close. Occupancy licenses, liquor licenses, medical practice licenses, cosmetology licenses, professional licenses of all kinds are what government's threatened to take away if they didn't close, enforce distancing, mask rules, etc. You'd be hard pressed to find many businesses at all in any US jurisdiction that were completely unlicensed that were forced to close by police or agencies.

The license is their most effective pressure point to control society. Unlicensed holistic healers could and did continue to operate as they wished during the closures and restrictions. They had freedom. And were able to provide care to their clients. But you pay, not insurers. Trade-offs. I choose freedom. And will pay more for it. Especially when the alternative is a profession that Hitler used to exterminate millions with: Allopathic Doctors.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Yes, "health" insurance has some consequences that are not all sweetness and health.

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Nancy's avatar

Very well stated. However there comes a time when allopathic is needed, insurance is a blessing.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Trauma injuries. Broken bones and holes that need to be mended and sewn up. That's it. I'd rather die at home, on a beach or mountaintop to die hooked up to beeping machines under bright lights with petrochemicals coursing through my veins surrounded by masked, heartless, phony strangers who treat me like cattle slicing and dicing my insides up. Saddled with massive medical bills that take my estate from my offspring (even with insurance that costs more than my mortgage payment each month). I've seen family members leave this world like that. Not for me.

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STH's avatar

Keep calling around. I just switched to a a new naturopath (the last one told me to be sure to get vaccinated 3 mos after I RECOVERED from the nasty alpha variant!) Bye Bye you nutjob! Anyway, my new one only charged $165 for a complete physical. Insurance will still cover labs. So unless you’re at the doctors every few months it’s not too bad.

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Nancy's avatar

Where are you? I’m in Eastern PA, near Princeton, nj.

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Jen's avatar

All the ND schools were bought, requiring vaxxes for faculty, staff and students.

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Nancy's avatar

😡

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Nancy's avatar

Above not great meds, great drs

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Bandit's avatar

I read it twice and got what you meant. 😊

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Amy144's avatar

You may want to consider a high-quality oral b12 supplement, rather than shots, which can be less effective. Details below if you're interested (and no I'm not affiliated. The site is for info, not sales.)

https://www.medicalmedium.com/blog/healing-benefits-of-b12

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Kim's avatar

What is an energy doctor?

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Reiki is one type. There's other types of Asian and holistic energy healers, too.

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Kim's avatar

Ah. I understand. I used to make use of acupuncture for body tune-ups but where I live now is devoid of that, and so much more.

I was wondering if you were talking about Dr. Tennant and his Synergy devices. Or infrared therapies.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I imagine that would be considered, too. There are currently efforts in several states to license and regulate energy work as though it is dangerous in public practice. They call it hocus-pocus nonsense, then try to claim it's a threat to public safety. Speaketh with forked tongue.

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Duchess's avatar

Me neither.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Dr Coleman states in one of his books, that the period the UK docs went on strike, deaths and illnesses went down. And he is a doc too LOL but he is in the good camp

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Same with Peds patients over Covid .

The death rate of babies and toddlers went down over Covid years. Mothers not bringing them in to the Peds offices. So they didn't die. You figure it out...

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reality speaks's avatar

this is true. I look at the death statistics in the State of Illinois. They keep separate data on what they call infants IE under the age of 1. The death rate for infants drop 20% in 2020 and 2021 compare to the 5 year prior average.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

if that is not a sure sign that doctors and more especially all those jabs are killing babies instead of saving them. How can all these chemicals be good for a developing kid !

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

RS,

Yes, someone needs to publish this and bring it to all the Media that will print it Attention.

Can you imagine the Excuses the Media that Won't Print It or Announce It would have ? What would they say? This is not relavent to our Society?

We don't care about toddler deaths ?

I told our Pediatrician, Proud ProVax and she cast her eyes downward, which told me she Knew.

Then she wrote me a letter ---- get this ----kicking us out of her practice.

😊 Well, people handle difficult circumstances in either one of two ways....1) come clean ( or cleanish ) or just ignore silently or 2) get angry because of their own guilty bad behavior

She was the latter obviously.

Best

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Edwin Muir's avatar

INTERESTING Ingrid ?!

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Edwin Muir's avatar

Rejoice in the *LORD JESUS* and live forever, truly an incredible deal. John 1:12 ,18 & 3:16,17 XXX. And no fears Psalm 23 and Psalm 91 warns of the pestilence that walks in darkness. Thanks our GOOD,GREAT *FATHER GOD* & *JESUS* THE ROCK OF AGES.

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Mark's avatar

ALL of the "doctors" "nurses" and other "health care" professionals who incessantly pushed for "the vaccination to save a nation" drove many 10's of millions of us away from ever trusting a doctor or health care professional again;

my original doctor of over ten years suddenly "retired" when the shots became mandatory for all health care workers in Australia; she would actually have a conversation with me about the "shots" and respected my decision not to partake in the experiment; she told me the she also was not going to submit to being a lab-rat;

i lost 3 more doctors during the pandemic that never was; they all tried their level best to seduce me into "taking one for greater good" any time i had an appointment with them;

they refused to take any evidence i had regarding the very real harms that could be endured by having the "largest world wide vaccine experiment ever undertaken" shots injected into our bodies;

they even refused to accept that i was in the high risk category for developing any type of thrombosis after the AZ shot as i had previous history of having a (injury induced) blood clot that nearly killed me; AZ was the first "vaccine" in Australia and even the main media networks were reporting on "adverse reaction blood clots from AZ" but the "doctors" were still insisting that i get injected.....

as a result, i avoid going to any doctor now; i no longer take any "prescription medicines" as a result of my "doctor hesitancy" and i feel better for it;.

i should of avoided "doctors" long ago;

perhaps if there were more good doctors such as yourself, the entire Plandemic1984 would never of gained the traction it did and there wouldn't be huge numbers of excess deaths being recorded all over this earth.

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Barney Rubble's avatar

Boy I bet that was a lonely club. I knew Fauci Hillary and Gates had some connection so my earliest reading led me to believe this was political more than medical. That led me to reading all about Pandemic Preparedness and the challenges of mRNA research. That led me to know that certain people in the NIH would benefit financially. Surviving into May doing what I do in combination with the fact the virus had never been isolated cemented my resolve. We went back to living as normal as life would allow by traveling for Memorial Day 2020 and continuing since as much as Bidenomics has allowed. The Electsurrection™️ of "Whos gonna take the shot" further cemented it. Christine Masseys FOIA work proves it.

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Dee Dee's avatar

Just looking at Fauci made me uneasy...then I found Kary Mullis, he told me everything I needed to know.

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Barney Rubble's avatar

Yes. I excluded my Fauci - Aids rabbit hole and his experimenting on the children at Saint Josephs I think it was.

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Joanna's avatar

I read that story ! That definitely sealed the deal on Fauci for me.

Dr Mangele!

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Jacktheglide's avatar

Well said! 😑

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Victoria's avatar

My practice is much smaller, and I didn’t have a radio program, but I told all of my patients early on (like as soon as they started mentioning a “vaccine” was coming) not to take it. I used all manner of arguments (no proof that they would be safe or effective, prior attempts at a Coronavirus vaccine were dismal failures, etc.) I prescribed HCQ and Ivermectin. And got busted by the state AG. Still have my license, but got stuck with a fine (and a mandatory class on “medical ethics” 🤨🙄).

But I think the thing that got my patient’s attention more than anything, was my brother who died from the kill shot a week or so after his 2nd injection. (He was a talented but naive CRNA who thought his older sis was a “conspiracy theorist”.) I shared his story with everyone who would listen. I’m know I convinced many because I heard stories x from my patients that their friends/relatives changed their minds or refused additional “vaccines” when they shared my brother’s story.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Can you do Telemedicine?

Or only in your State?

Be careful, you may not want to say the State here.

If you work with AFLD - America's Front Line Doctors you can Telemedicine around the country because their Goldcare Health Insurance covers it. They would really appreciate you as a provider one would think.

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Duchess's avatar

And we will all sign up.

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Commoncents's avatar

Thank you John you saved countless lives. Bravo

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Don Paul's avatar

Thanks, John. Are your statements from 2020 public and how can they be shared?

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Former UK resident's avatar

The irony is George Webb took the shots and now has a health issue .... (If you are referring to the investigative journalist).

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Zade's avatar

Why did you have the guts to stand up, and so many MDs chickened?

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john herzog's avatar

Not really I’m an eagle Boy Scout so long ago I learned the truth and action are the best policy

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Zade's avatar

Well then there's hope for my sons, who are also Eagle Scouts.

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reality speaks's avatar

thank you for standing up to the lies.

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Mark G. Meyers's avatar

Thank you for seeing it. I enjoy hearing about people on the left, which includes many educated people, and people who may get emotional and even activist. Well, I just published "An Open Letter to Educated People of the Modern World", because I'm asking people to look at democratic ways of responding to this. Cheers, and keep up the vigilant work.

https://markgmeyers.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-the-educated-persons

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JohnG's avatar

John, if Covid isn't real, what do you think killed (and nearly killed) numerous unvaccinated people I knew/know back in the summer-winter of 2021? Thanks,

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The deaths in early 2020 were from the 2019 flu vaccine. Which was a new technology and for different types of strains than they've made vaccines before for, not just the normal new evolutionary strains they have for years. New jab.

And vaccines shed and spread the very disease they are supposed to prevent. They lied about that in the CV shots, but it was true for the flu vax and it's been true for the mRNA jabs. The high death rates in 2021 were the result of the jabs themselves, both to recipient and to those they infected. Vaxxes shed for about 50-80 days after inoculation, but the highest levels in the first few weeks. It's why when you overlay charts of vaccine uptake campaigns with CV deaths, with a 3-6 week time shift you can trace them nearly perfectly. All over the world. Doesn't follow national borders as infections are believed to normally spread. It follows vaccine uptake campaigns. RFK Jr's book, The Real Anthony Fauci lays out those charts clearly for us to see, but it was available on public reporting agencies in real time, too. For those who bothered to check and see, spot the patterns.

Nature had very little to do with the deaths from the pandemic. Man-made, from start to finish.

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JohnG's avatar

Interesting. How many people would have to be involved and keeping a secret in this case?

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Open secrets aren't really secrets:

This publication describes a brand-new style of flu vaccine that came online for the 2019-2020 flu season. Mammalian cell-based instead of egg-based. Claims that it was studied for efficacy...but no mention of safety trials:

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/first-cell-based-quadrivalent-vaccine-available-for-2019-2020-flu-season

"A new cell-based seasonal influenza vaccine has been issued marketing approval by the European Commission and will be available for the 2019/2020 flu season.

Flucelvax® Tetra (Seqirus) is the first cell-based quadrivalent influenza vaccine (QIVc) to be made available in Europe and is licensed for use in individuals aged nine years and older.

To date, there have been no randomised controlled trials comparing the efficacy of QIVc and standard egg-based quadrivalent vaccines (QIVe)"

“This real-world study, along with other emerging evidence, indicates that cell-based influenza vaccines may result in better influenza-related outcomes compared to standard egg-based vaccine options in some seasons"

"In the UK, the potential advantages of QIVc, which is cultured in mammalian cells rather than eggs"

“We are pleased to be bringing Flucelvax Tetra to the UK next season and have sufficient capacity at our cell-based manufacturing facility in the US to also ensure supply in September 2019"

This article is interesting. It says that they added live-attenuated influenza vaccines to the schedule. It goes on to say that flu vaccines most definitely, positively, absolutely don't cause the flu, and by that definition won't shed...even after all of the science on vaccines admit that live-attenuated vaccines do shed. Curious:

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/20192020-influenza-vaccine-update

"The 2019–2020 influenza vaccine recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have remained mostly the same, with the exception of adding the LAIV to the immunization schedule."

These articles tell us about the WHO's process is and what they decided the 2019-2020 vaccine recommendations would be. I'll note that the first link speaks to concerns with preparing for H3N2 from the prior year, while the second link says they ended up not developing that specific strain of vaccines, after all, and the third link says they went ahead and included the H3N2 variant, after all:

https://elemental.medium.com/inside-the-making-of-the-flu-vaccine-c5d6f8cd174c

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/who-vaccine-recommendations-are-used-pharmaceutical-companies-develop-produce-and-license-influenza

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/918053

Now, this is an interesting story from CNN that came out in November, 2019, an important time frame in the evolution of the CV story. Note the discussion about the need to develop a new type of all-purpose vaccine, a desire to test it widely, one that focused on a protein they link to a particular virus...like, say, a spike protein. Fauci is frequently quoted in it:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/29/health/universal-flu-vaccine/index.html

"But a universal flu shot would theoretically cover every strain of the flu using what’s known as an ice cream cone approach."

"Last spring, doctors at the NIH started testing universal flu shots on Sonn and other study participants to see how their bodies respond.

“I have a personal connection to the flu,” Sonn explained. “My grandfather was orphaned due to the flu epidemic in April 1919.”

The 1918-1919 Spanish flu pandemic infected a third of the world’s population and killed 50 million people.

Losing his parents at 6 years old left a mark on Sonn’s grandfather, and subsequently on Sonn himself.

“He really had great trust in science and medical research, so I know he would be proud I’m taking part in this,” Sonn said.

One of the most useful things about the universal flu shot is that if it works out as hoped, it will also protect against flu pandemics like the one that killed Sonn’s great-grandparents.

In a flu pandemic, a new strain of flu virus emerges. Since very few people have immunity to it, it can spread quickly and easily.

There have been four flu pandemics in the past century: in 1918-1919; in 1957-1958; in 1968; and in 2009.

The research got an extra push in September when President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at developing a better flu vaccine.

Fauci said it could take less time – but still many years – to develop a semi-universal flu shot, which would protect against not all flu viruses, but rather a group of flu viruses."

"The faster and more precise method is not to grow the virus at all and instead just create the virus’ protein, he said.

“We clone the gene that codes for the specific protein we want,” Fauci said. “I don’t even want to see the virus. I just need the sequence of that virus, the genetic map of that virus. And you could send that to me by email.”

That’s the technology that’s being used to create the vaccines being trialed on participants like Sonn right now.

“We feel like we’re pioneers, and our volunteers are pioneers,” Ledgerwood said."

Experimental technology they were trying out in the summer of 2019. Everyone who took the jab has been made unwitting "pioneers" since 2020. Especially now learning that large percentages of the CV biotech injections were placebos, like an actual (stealth) trial would have. That experimental mammalian cell-based vaccine technology in the 2019-2020.

Only sounds like a secret to those who weren't informing themselves back then.

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JohnG's avatar

Great points Freedom Fox, thank you. Definitely makes me much less skeptical of your viewpoint. Hopefully time will bear out the truth on all this. What a disaster.

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Username's avatar

"It was a super antigen as Malone would say. Unbelievably , it was more or less the cloned amino acid sequence from Chinese cobra venom. "

This is VERY interesting! May we have web links where we can go to learn more about this?

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JohnG's avatar

Thank you John for your honest response. I hope you are wrong.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Thank you!

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Indeed. Too bad George decided to get vaxxed to keep traveling but he knows what he did.

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Charlotte's avatar

I religiously sent all of your posts to my friend in Sweden, she, of course, never got the jab. And then she worked overtime to try and stop her parents. They ended up getting 2 AZ and her father one mRNA booster, but she feels they still dodged a bullet because there was only one mRNA in the mix. For 2.5 years they called her crazy and were really annoyed at her American friend (who is apparently nuts but kind of friendly) for sending all of this anti-vax propaganda :) At the very end, she was successful in talking her mom out of the booster- success! So thank you Igor!

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am very glad to hear Charlotte

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Zade's avatar

The AZ shots were good at killing people. Viral vector that still causes spike production in your body.

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Madame DeFarge's avatar

Exactly! Whatever the means of introducing the entire spike into our bodies, the full spike is extremely harmful. It's the equivalent of vaccinating with large amounts of arsenic. The first version of the BioNTech (Pfizer) vaccine deliberately omitted a key part of the spike, and would have been just as effective (or ineffective, because vaccinating into the face of a pandemic in which the virus is continually mutating is absurd, immediately generating Original Antigenic Sin in those vaccinated). However, for marketing (not scientific) reasons, Ugur Sahin (BioNTech's CEO) pulled the plug on V.1 and continued developing V.2, which has the deadly *full* spike. Almost all the other vaccines also use the full spike.

But regardless, vaccinating into a pandemic with rapidly mutating viruses assures that the entire effort will not only be worthless but actually harmful.

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Zade's avatar

I never saw the logic. Let's see, the spike kills people. Yeah, let's inject a substance that causes your body to pump out huge numbers of spike in we-don't-know-how-many organs for however many months.

Sahin probably realized the partial spike wouldn't create the desired immune response, so to peddle the jab he needed the full spike.

The whole thing is a giant science fair idea, inflicted on billions for fun and profit.

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Madame DeFarge's avatar

Your point about the "logic" hits the nail on the head!

As for Sahin and V1 vs V2 of the Pfizer vaccine, both generated approximately the same amount of antibodies, but V1 generated a few more, quite trivial, side effects (headaches and such). So even though Sahin is knowledgeable enough to be aware of and to understand the benefits of de-fanging the spike by using most but not all of it, he decided to dump V1 (which they could have continued to test) and focus only on V2, with the entire, and frequently lethal, spike.

One can find the details simply by going to PubMed and gathering papers about the vaccine to which he contributed, most notably the few papers describing V1 of the BioNTech vaccine.

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Zade's avatar

Thanks for the suggestion to search his papers out on pubmed! Early into the pandemic I looked for publications on mRNA technology in vaccines and found some papers, and I remember seeing reports of test animals dying. I wish I could remember where that was. That right there confirmed my decision to stay away from the mess.

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Madame DeFarge's avatar

You were smarter than I!

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shibumi's avatar

Well, the AZ and JJ are, I think viral vector vaxxes, which are still somewhat experimental. Plus... they use DNA rather than RNA.

https://portal.ct.gov/vaccine-portal/Vaccine-Knowledge-Base/Articles/mRNA-vs-Viral-Vector?language=en_US

If I knew people who took the viral vector vaxxes, I would use the same post vaxx protocols as the mDNA. Right now, Pfi$er is taking the brunt of the bad publicity, but that might mean that AZ, JJ and Moderna have paid their hush $$$$.

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Mark's avatar

AZ was/is banned for use in Australia; media reported: no problems though, it just didn't meet the required "safety standards"....

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Mark, I got two AZ shots in Australia, although by the second one (Dec 2021) it was getting harder to find a clinic still offering them. After that I wasnt interested in any more, so don't know if they were still somewhat available in 2022. My memory is that (after the clots got some early publicity) they werent recommended here for women of child-rearing age (I was 67, so the Drs were happy to give it to me).

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Mark's avatar

well that was pretty bloody stupid of you;; i don't know what you read into my comment but i had absolutely no intention of getting any of the shots;

Doctors were happy to poison anyone that they got a chance to and collected $50 for every shot they gave.

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Jenni Dall's avatar

Hey Mark we're on the same page! I agree the shots are a very bad idea. You called it correctly!!

Just thought you might want to know that AZ weren't actually banned in Oz back then (though they may well be now for all I know).

Take care 🌻

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Obelisk's avatar

Turns out we probably saved more lives than the jabs, hats off to you Igor 👏

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SEF's avatar

That's exactly what the gold-standard randomized clinical trials showed- the mRNA jabs save NO lives overall

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/04/09/covid-vaccines-increase-risk-of-heart-related-deaths-by-up-to-50-lancet-analysis-of-trial-data-finds/

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Obelisk's avatar

"Whoever said vaccines actually need to save lives or prevent disease or have any sort of net benefit??? No one ever said they would!!!!" -science believer

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Mark St's avatar

- "The Science" believer is more accurate.

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Obelisk's avatar

For the greater good obviously! Lol

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

One reason the studies may have shown that Republican minds were NOT changed as much as Dems is that Republicans were already hip to what was going on ( they knew ) and they were just reading out of interest of what was going on with everybody else. That would describe the readers that I know.

Cheers!

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Kate's avatar

I agree with that, but I wonder if the same results would have obtained if Trump had been (recognized as) elected. Maybe the Biden presidency saved many Republican lives from death by Covid vax.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Kate,

I just used and advised the " Trump Cocktail " to cure the cold/ flu " virus " ( if there really was really one ). Don't you remember? He supposedly got it, Guliani supposedly did, Chris Christie supposedly did ; all these older, fat , probably not ideally healthy VIPs were better in 3 days. So I copied them. Simple.

Vit D, Ivermectin, Vit C, etc etc. I did not need the Monoclonal Antibody which they had but I had the hospital in place to go to if I did need it. Trump made it free for EVERYONE. O'Biden shut it down. I did finish with a Z pack because after any bad respiratory virus, after it burns itself out, typically opportunistic bacteria move in and cause a secondary bacterial pneumonia, and that is exactly what happened.

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shibumi's avatar

I read up on these vaxxes. Didn't care who was recommending them-- including my doctor-- I wasn't going to put something in my body that did not have 10 plus years of research.

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Mark's avatar

i looked out my window and didn't see dead bodies everywhere; i went for walks and did not see dead or dying people anywhere; i asked people near crematoriums if the smoke stacks were pumping out smoke non-stop; i asked people if they were seeing "officials" in Hazmat suits picking up those that allegedly died at home...

i quickly figured out that someone wasn't telling us the truth based on facts and as such, did some research into the "vaccines" that will save us all from extinction;

i soon learned about the "spike proteins" and how they attack the blood cells; that was all i needed to know.

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Shan's avatar

I agree with you, Shibumi. When the vax was just about to be released/approved in the US I told my husband I wasn’t taking any of them, or giving them to our kiddo, until they had years of safety data behind them. But by this point, I knew the IFR for C19 was much lower than they were making it out to be and I knew that my family had almost zero risk factors for hospitalization/death by Vid. I just wasn’t that afraid.

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Mark St's avatar

The worrisome thing is an unknown number of those trials are rigged or flawed.

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Masaki Fujii's avatar

I learned that past clinical trials took around 10 years.

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bagel with a schmear's avatar

According to Turtles All the Way Down there has never been a true vaccine trial bc. they NEVER used a true placebo.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

With Trump, it was just one of many options. Smart people would probably use the therapeutic he and the VIPs were using.

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Kathryn O'Connor's avatar

Good point!

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CK's avatar

My guess is that those R’s who were anti-jab would largely stay anti-jab. Given Biden and Harris’ public distrust in the “Trump vaccine” I wonder how many democrats would have avoided the shot if Trump had stayed in office. Would the media have gotten behind the push like they did?

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STH's avatar

Good point Kate! I never thought of that. But Trump never would have mandated them. So there’s that.

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Donny, Donny Darko's avatar

I can accept Trump knew nothing about the Vaccine Industrial Complex. I appreciate he didn't mandate them. What I don't accept is him still taking credit for Warp.

By now he should know. By now he should be saying, "I made a HUGE mistake. I aided and facilitated mass genocide for the WEF/NWO depopulation agenda. I should have listened to Atlas, fired Fauci, and gutted the FDA."

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Igor Chudov's avatar

That's possible yes

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Datagal's avatar

Agree. Also I think Christians are more likely to be Republican and the devout Christians I know were already anti vax or hesitant.

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Overcomer's avatar

If you believe and follow the demonrat party platform can you be a christian?

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Edwin Muir's avatar

Whatsoever is not of FAITH IS SIN, Fear is no reliable: We have James 5:15-16 for Jude 20 believers.

King James Version

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Back from the dead Ed. *G* B U doubters, it took 7 dead prem babies to jerk me accross being open to *GOD`S* John 3:16 : 17 mercies midnight Aug 29th 1974, never looked back since. AMAZING GRACE.

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Kathryn O'Connor's avatar

My thoughts exactly!

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Carl Eric Scott's avatar

Change "is that Republicans were already hip to what was going on" to "is that more Republicans than Democrats were already hip to what was going on," and this comment works. Otherwise, nope.

Plenty of top conservative thinkers, and not just hyper-loyalist Trumper ones, were not at all hip to it and have done some very unhip and unconservative things, such as aiding in the suppressing of the story. https://pomocon.substack.com/p/adjunct-suppressors Just today, see Bret Swanson's Infonomena stack, we got what is to my knowledge the FIRST EVER NON-DISMISSIVE MENTION of the vax-harm claims in the pages of the oh-so-GOP Wall Street Journal. And don't get me started on "conservative" governors and governor-office staff. These mums-the-word "conservative" "leaders" led a lot of rank-and-file GOP to get jabbed. Many of these persons still don't know.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I did not consider myself republican until a few years ago. If I had previously been asked, I would have said independent. Now, if I had to chose between the 2, republican.

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Befferz's avatar

Me too. 💯

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M. Dowrick's avatar

I have affected a handful of people, maybe more into declining any further covid jabs. Sadly, I have also sensed a division in my family due to my views on experimental biologicals. I don’t know if this rift will ever heal. But I do wonder how family can turn on one another after being in each others lives for 65-70 years. Are our relationships that delicate, unimportant, that one’s views on the plandemic cannot be tolerated. Time will tell. The problem is I am at the end of life. My husband always reminds me, life has a beginning, a middle and an end and he and I are in the end bit. Grateful for all those who have been willing to stick their neck out to provide data, statistics, research that what we were being told, simply was not true. Grateful to you, Ivor, for all of your efforts, kindness and intelligence.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Mary Ann - I too have wondered how family can turn on one another. My twin sister and I no longer have a relationship with our older (by 11 years) twin brothers (they are 75). We have come to the conclusion that our once very close relationship was not what we thought it to be. It is more important for them to be right - and that we agree with them - than to have a relationship with us. It’s so sad. Most likely the next time we see them, they will be in an urn. 😢

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Foundry Girl's avatar

I have been reading The Psychology of Totalitarianism by Matthias Desmet which does a great job of explaining this weirdness. I too have family that has distanced themselves. I don’t know if they will ever see the truth of the situation. Desmet terms it mass formation. I feel certain that if the authorities were hunting for the antivaxers to put them in camps or to put them to death, my sister would rat me out in a New York second. It’s difficult to come to terms with.

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Patty's avatar

Not sure if you ever have heard of John Bradshaw, but he also discusses this within the realm of addiction, dysfunctional families and even companies. Group dynamics. Patriarchal / Matriarchal / Monarcheal systems. where one person or entity has all the power.

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Foundry Girl's avatar

I have indeed heard of John Bradshaw. His work was incredibly eye opening for me and opened a path to begin a lengthy healing process.

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Patty's avatar

Very good. He was amazing.

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MeriBear's avatar

I have friends who stopped after the first one, friends who never got it, an employee of ours who didn’t get it, and my brother who woke up after two shots. To a greater or lesser extent, Ui can say my spouse and I were responsible for these outcomes. We, of course, declined any jabs.

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Daphne's avatar

Yes, Igor - I was able to with your help! (Even some former and completely unaware “Fauci fans” 🥺) My strategy was to share some of your posts, along with those from Spartacus; A Midwestern Doctor; Sasha Latypova and a couple of others. Thank you for all you continue to do 🙏🏻

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Igor Chudov's avatar

awesome

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Hilary Wallace's avatar

I had so many arguments with my spouse about this jab and was unsuccessful at stopping him completely (a mixture of travel and my nagging though delayed his action and he ended up getting one J&J rather than the Pfizer which our ‘kind’ authorities had earmarked for us). I do believe though that I managed to stop him getting an mRNA booster 2 months later when it was clear that the one shot J&J was not what it was claimed to be. I’m afraid I had to be a real nag but it was worth it. Luckily I don’t think there were any major side effects from that one shot.

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Madame DeFarge's avatar

Though the mRNA components of Moderna and BioNTech vaccines do pose their own unique problems, the biggest problem of all was use of the entire spike of the virus. This idiocy (shared by all the other vaccines) is what is causing most of the damage.

The very idea of vaccinating into the face of a pandemic is moronic, as has been amply proven. Those (led by Fauci) who actively prevented early, effective treatment should not be jailed, electrocuted, or hung, but rather need to be burnt at the stake. I repeat, burnt at the stake. Nothing short of this will adequately punish these criminals, nor will it effectively deter them from repeating such mass murders in the future.

Burn them all at the stake. Burn them slowly, but burn them to a crisp.

Never Forget!

Never Forgive!

Never Again!

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Duchess's avatar

I wholeheartedly concur.

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Hal's avatar

Publicly hung, drawn and quartered should be reintroduced for their knowing genocide.

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Duchess's avatar

I have taken up knitting, and have my knitting needles at the ready

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Patty's avatar

and or hanging they did after the Nuremberg trials.

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STH's avatar

Hilary- I have a son and three good friends who all caved and took the J&J. So far, two years out, all are fine. Fingers crossed they discontinued them because they weren’t killing enough people. I don’t know anyone with a serious adverse event from the J&J if they made it past the first month. I’m sure they’re out there? But it’s the mRNA ones that seem to be doing the most damage.

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Val's avatar

I am a co- founder of Safertowait.com a UK based team (minuscule - 4 of us and all with other commitments). We focussed on parents. Vaccine uptake was 11% first dose and 7% second dose for 5-11 years in the UK. We organized with ASITP UK to deliver 100s of thousands of leaflets through letterboxes. 100,00 in two counties alone out of 100 that I know about for accurate numbers. Sober, cautious message with medical facts and a message to wait for longer term data for kids worked. In solidarity with you.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Huge THANKS to you! I remember your website and how it was blocked everywhere

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Val's avatar

We had a copycat website, which launched within hours of ours. We had signaled on the leaflet to watch out for our launch. Only one page was ever created by them discrediting us. It was the only website Google showed in its search. But we got through with the hard copies and then with the site. They under estimated our persistence!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Kudos. ❤

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Val's avatar

100,000 that should have said.

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Tom Tunes's avatar

Great work! Really smart!

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Deo Gratias's avatar

I convinced one brother and his wife to forgo vaccination altogether. I convinced a number of people (maybe a dozen or so) to avoid boosters. But they had other evidence at that point too, so maybe I was just reinforcement..

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I am a registered Republican. Although at this point in time, I prefer to say I am a humanitarian.

I was all in on the shots. Got two in March/April of 2021. I started looking into early treatment in September of 2021, because I thought, how can it be that there is no treatment at this point???? It didn’t make sense. Then a friend who was also vaxxed got Covid pneumonia and ended up in the ER the following month. Again, it didn’t make sense. I started reading every day. Very quickly I found the many substack authors speaking truth.

I red pilled my husband and a couple close friends who trusted me enough to read what I sent them. Since then, I have only planted seeds. At this point, I’m afraid the brain washing cannot be reversed. Many are no longer getting the shots but have no idea of the carnage they have left in their wake. Nor do they want to know. Lost many friends and family. But have gained even more with the many kindred spirits I have found. You find some if you use the term PLANDEMIC when just chatting. If they are awake, they jump on it.

Igor -Thank you for speaking truth. I am grateful to you and all the others who have risked so very much. God bless you.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

And thank YOU Laura, and please stay healthy

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I will Igor. I am cared for by a physician at Dr. Sherri Tenpenny’s practice.

😘❤️

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Chris's avatar

I'd be interested to hear from the comments whether people are Republican or Democrat, and where they started out, and where "misinformation" aka studying led or changed them. ~Republican here; I wasn't "swayed" only in the sense of i already was never going to get it.

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Stephanie's avatar

Republican here. I was aware of the "virus" very early. I think it was on New Years Eve, Dec 31, 2019, that I saw my first report on youtube. I alerted my family and college students that lived out of state just to be aware. I began watching Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity on Youtube and from there Dr. John Campbell(Until he was a vax believer) he has since come to his senses and I have begun watching him again. I knew I would never take the vax when I researched how long it takes to bring a vaccine to the public. As soon as warp speed was announced I knew I would not partake and would do everything to keep my family from taking it. My father watched the same youtubers as I and came to the same conclusion as I did about the vax at about the same time. We all remain vax free.

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Duchess's avatar

That was it!! Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity...and you know who else? Dr. Vernon Coleman, aka the Old Man in the Chair!

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Ernie Rockwell's avatar

Dr. Coleman fan here. I love anyone who has had the courage to tell it like it is, including him, Dr. Rima Laibow, Dr. Yeadon, and our cadre of Substackers like Igor.

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MeriBear's avatar

Yup! The first thing I said when we saw the initial reports - this is a depopulation plan.

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SEF's avatar

I am a FORMER Democrat- I initially had strong suspicions that the vaccines might do more harm than good. I became 100% convinced that they indeed do more harm than good once I saw the gold-standard randomized clinical trial results that showed "4 killed for every 3 saved" overall even at the height of the pandemic (initially just the Pfizer RCT results courtesy of Alex Berenson, then Moderna RCT results confirming the same trend soon afterwards): https://dailysceptic.org/2022/04/09/covid-vaccines-increase-risk-of-heart-related-deaths-by-up-to-50-lancet-analysis-of-trial-data-finds/

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Brandy's avatar

Good for you for looking at the study results. So many people are STILL unaware of this fact. It’s depressing. I was telling my family member recently that “everyone now knows it was a fraud” and she looked at me like I had said something totally crazy. I can’t even imagine making it this far and not even being suspicious.

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, I have a friend who is a physician who was recently with a group of physicians at a social function. My friend asked another in the group how was the other’s young granddaughter who’d been diagnosed w long VID. My friend and I are 99% certain it’s actually v injury.

The girl is still struggling. My friend urged the other to have the family call her, as she is treating a lot of long VID.

Others in group: “really? There is treatment for that?”

Friend: “oh, yes. Definitely. We’re seeing a lot of long VID and vaks injury.”

Others: “well, I guess that is one way to call it.” No clue whatsoever that vaks injury is happening. None. Zero.

Doctors are not taught to look for vaks injury. And they ARE taught the things are safe. So they are usually quite literally unable to see it.

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Brandy's avatar

The medical system primarily serves big pharma. It’s so sad.

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Tom Tunes's avatar

As a retired MD I get exactly that impression talking to former colleagues.

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Stephenie's avatar

I would say I’m an independent voter, but much to my chagrin I cast my ballot for Biden in 2020, just to show where I was back then. Luckily I am a voracious reader of wide ranging material and had stumbled across enough random information (not even on substack!!!) that led me to question if the shots would even work, but I figured it was probably worth it for at-risk individuals who were targeted first, including my mom. I had COVID in March 2020 and figured I didn’t need it and didn’t want the risks either. When they started claiming previously infected individuals needed it as well and then shortly after the carrots brought out the sticks I knew I would never ever put that shit in my body. And basically that’s when I finally found substack and man was that a relief!

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Copernicus's avatar

After the carrots brought out the sticks.

Exactly.

Who needs carrots if it is a great product? That should have clued in far more people than it did.

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Richard A's avatar

I wasn't working in late 2020 and 2021 and devoted just about all my spare time to reading everything I could about the subject of pandemics.

I've always been pro-vaccine but no more. I always had trust and respect for the medical profession, that has gone down altho I realize the disincentives available to "progressives" along with "peer pressure". Doctors spend enormous amounts of time studying and are at the top levels of society thus are very vulnerable to specific pressure to get them to shut up. Corruption obviously has effects too, and Fauci used corruption to bribe all authorities and even hospitals. The amount of cynicism involved in killing so many must be monumental.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

C Jay,

I would bet most here are neither Repub or Dem and just Free Thinkers.

Perhaps, described by some as Libertarian.

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Stephanie's avatar

I vote Repub but I am a Libertarian at heart.

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Datagal's avatar

I was a registered Libertarian but changed to R so I could vote for Trump in CA’s 2016 and 2020 primaries. Staying an R, though I’m very unhappy with the DC uniparty.

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shibumi's avatar

I vote R but I am an anti-collectivist at heart.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

I like a term I saw recently: politically homeless.

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Patty's avatar

Registered independent and increasingly borderline libertarian every day. Will change my party to vote in the primaries, if needed

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Robin Baker's avatar

I'm a former Libertarian, who converted 7 years ago and became a registered Constitutionalist; I tend to align, at least theoretically, with Republicans more than Democrats. there's not much difference In practice, though, between the two halves of the Uni-party, and I have little to no respect for those who currently populate the DC hive. (Actually, I feel pretty much the same way about those in Denver right now, too, but I am definitely grateful not to have still been in CA through this!)

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Duchess's avatar

Same. Dr. Lee Merritt Dr. Sukhit Bahkdi, and many others helped. I wish I could remember where and when I first found out the ALL THE ANIMALS DIED.

That set my teeth against it...that and the fact that I NEVER volunteer (not for surveys, not for lab rat status)...unless you are gonna pay me a zillion dollars...why should I help anyone when my time is valuable? Pay me if you want me to answer your stupid survey. My rate is $50.00 or any portion thereof.

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Robin Baker's avatar

I read that same article! In fact, I know that I saved it on my old laptop, and am going to have to search for it now, because it will drive me crazy until I remember the author. You're right, though, about that part being a huge bugle blast! When I read about all of the various creatures who were put through that study and not one survived (or would have, as they euthanized the ill at any symptom's appearance)... That was when I knew to keep trusting my gut and not the "authorities". Prior to that moment, I really did question myself a lot, but was determined to err on safety's side for my own choice regardless.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Never went near Fauci's Ouchies or the nose jabbing. Elections in the U.S.?

Sadly, IMPO (In My Prayerful Opinion!) they have become just huge FAKE

"Elephant and Donkey Shows" that I won't watch or take part in!

They are "selections" NOT honest elections.

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Copernicus's avatar

Please go vote.

If you are registered and don’t vote, you give Them an unvoted voter in whose name They can cast a ballot.

Please, go vote even though it doesn’t seem to make a difference.

And also, please connect with your state elexion integrity group and find out how you can begin to work with them for change.

WE are the change we’ve been waiting for. If not you, then who?

What is your country worth to you?

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Well. . .I have an important question for YOU. Why (WHY!) should I vote when my participation (voting) will only endorse a vote for THEIR corrupt system? This U.S. Government , "the two-horned beast" of Revelation 13:18, a very long time ago turned its governing power over to The Christian Vatican in Rome, the "beast" of Revelation 13:1.

This beast (Papacy) began Christianity (the cross) in The Third Century A.D., Islam in The Sixth Century A.D (Crescent Moon and Star)., Communism (hammer and sickle) and The Nazis (crooked cross) in The 20th Century. Yeah. Please (PLEASE!) connect the dots!

No, I am not registered now and won't be. What is the worth of America to me? A government that permits and promotes the jabbing of babies and anyone with poisonous quackcines may be the ruling power of this country. However, it's NOT my government!

I post publicly and freely on MeWe. HAPPY INDEPENDENCE!

ETERNAL LIFE BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!

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misterkel's avatar

You forgot:

NEITHER. Never claimed a party affiliation, because I look at issues and decide what is true.

Taking your truths from your party is a recipe for sheep-hood. R or D, doesn't matter.

Pendulums swing as we all know.

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Sunshine's avatar

When did Mankind ever, across continents, simultaneously rise up and say 'No!' to anything? This was a First, but it won't be the last.

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shibumi's avatar

Makes you believe that a bunch of people, like a "forum of world economists" are pushing the buttons of everyone and planning a "great reset" that most of us are not supposed to surive.

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Randy's Substack Subscription's avatar

The "persecution" dumped on those of us who refuse (most received FAR more than I did), this is just one arena in a very large battlefield with many, many battle lines. The war continues and we must not become lax in our vigilance!

Thank you, again, Igor. I remain unvaxed, but am now upgraded!

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Awesome and thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Randy's Substack Subscription's avatar

My sincere appreciation and pleasure, sir!

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Alan Banner's avatar

I have a significant group that I've been sending information to since February 2020 after I started looking into the likely ground zero. Around half refused the vaccines and had no trust at all in the official narrative, aka lies. That held firm. Of the other half, most had one dose and no more and became concerned about the safety, but there were a couple who had full sets and have had covid 3 and 4 times each.

I've not said "I warned you" because that would have come across as sanctimonious and condescending and I have no idea what pressures they were put under by friends and families to comply.

One of our friends verbally threatened me - my wife has a congenital heart condition - for not protecting others, specifically my wife, and told me that if she died I would be responsible for her death.

Suffice it to say that I haven't spoken to that friend in over two years and have no plans to do so.

The rampant stupidity was amplified by the fact that my wife, now retired, (classed as highly vulnerable), was a nutritional medicine consultant and knows far more about the body and how to naturally treat "issues" than anyone I'm ever likely to know but her knowledge was summarily dismissed by her zombified friend. They still see each other from time to time but the subject of covid is never raised so I don't know if her friend has realised just how vile and wrong her comments were but I expect she will live the rest of her life in denial anyway.

To summarise: yes, I did make a difference and that was pleasing, but not for my own gratification or in any way overestimating my influence, just simply that I helped slow down a travesty that was being foisted upon a gullible public.

I've written to Igor a few times and had a couple of replies but with 52,000 subscribers he will have reached a lot more people than I have.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yes but only because of people like you!

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Alan Banner's avatar

I've been told many times that I should have started a blog, even signed up for substack account for some other things that I write about in the middle of the night, but it became clear that it only works if you have the time to spend on it and do it justice. I don't, whereas when you broke your foot, that gave you the time and the incentive to put the work in. You've built it well, keep going.

BTW, my real name isn't Alan Banner, that's a pseudonym I use as I will be on file with MI5 and don't need to poke the bear any more than necessary.

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Alan Banner's avatar

I’ve been asked by a few people as to why I’d be on a “watch list”… it’s because I stood for parliament in 2005 as the health spokesman for a small political party that hasn’t survived. My “crime”? Advocating health policies that actually were about health and not sickness management predicated on developing drugs that created a lifetime of dependency. Unfortunately I was way ahead of my time and after a short while promoting policies, some of which were adopted a few years later, that went counter to the official narrative of “more hospitals, better drugs and more doctors and nurses”, I was sacked in favour of someone who hadn’t the first idea about health… pretty much like all MPs now. There is nobody in parliament with any chance of countering the status quo unless you’re the PM in a cast iron position and can withstand attacks from the myriad vested interests as well as having the guts to do it… that’s why I didn’t run again.

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Dr Linda's avatar

What a very nice thing to say, Igor.

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The Beach Is My Bliss's avatar

I kept the pressure on my 30-something-year-old daughter to not go near that poison. She had friends early on who were pressuring her but I put my foot down and told her, "If you never listen to another thing I say, just please listen to me on this one." Thankfully, she did.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Congrats

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The Beach Is My Bliss's avatar

It helped that she is super aware and cares about her health.

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Copernicus's avatar

You must be so incredibly relieved.

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The Beach Is My Bliss's avatar

I'm so relieved. Unfortunately, her boyfriend got three shots. He also got incredibly sick from the second and third ones and promptly caught COVID a couple of months after the booster. I pray for him all the time that he will dodge the bullet that seems to be hitting so many in his position.

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Sadly, there are reports of massive amounts of spike protein in the testes, post-jab https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/covid-19/watch-german-pathologist-finds-covid-jab-spike-protein-in-testes-of-dead-man/

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