I wonder if there's a correlation between presentation at the emergency room and the prevalence of depression, suicide, drug abuse that indicate worsening mental health of populations globally. People running to the hospital for a sniffle, or standing in line for tests without any symptoms are psychologically damaged. We're creating a generation of hypochondriacs, a natural extension of decades of indoctrination in safe spaces and social conformity by the failed education system.
This is very interesting point. In fact, I believe that the vaccine effectiveness measured initially is for a significant part a placebo effect. They do better because they feel safe.
On the other hand the unvaccinated face tremendous pressure every day from the government and the people around them that can lead to worse outcomes of covid.
Zero evidence for my claim of course, but it is known that mental problems (anxiety, depression) contribute to worse outcomes.
In fact I feel more relaxed now that I have almost no contact with MOREONS and CovIDIOTS. No need to engage in banter with fools and imbeciles thanks to the segregation policies of the government.
Not being allowed into restaurants is a minimal inconvenience and I've swapped the summer ice hockey league (Pure Bloods not allowed) for more mountain biking.
And then there is the euphoria that a Pure Blood experiences seeing the Injected CovIDIOTS experiencing extreme rates of infection from Omicron. Hopefully they have permanently damaged their immune systems and they'll soon start dropping like flies.
If I am out on a trail on my bike and I see a CovIDIOT keel over I'll glide up to it ... pause for a drink of water... and ask 'how you feeling bud... you don't look so good'... and as it gasps 'help me'... I'll explain that all those Pfizer shots + boosters have wrecked your body... there's no helping you... then I will saddle up ... and kick the CovIDIOT to force it off of the track... and continue on my way...
It really is unfortunate that NZ has no predators such as wolves or bears... that might put a quick end to the CovIDIOT's suffering as it lays there waiting to die. We don't even have vultures to pick the carcass clean.
I appreciate the sentiment Eddy, I’m angry too, but our fellow humans who have fallen for the narrative, and “done what’s right”, without doing the work of further investigation (hat tip Igor), deserve our pity in my opinion.
Not everybody has resistance to such high degrees of organised social coercion, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the War enlistment effort, which of course didn’t have the whole Internet and social media angle to work with.
The people who deserve our anger are the current leaders who are doubling down on failed unscientific policies, even when they must know by now the harm to the innocent that is being caused, which is nothing short of evil.
Vote the bastards out, every single one of them, from either side, whoever played the “game” of pitting one segment of society against the other.
Hand the country over to a coalition of random fringe politicians, who will mostly rise to the occasion once given the reality of political responsibility.
Keep up the biking brother - looking forward to getting back to NZ once this madness abates - am way overdue to hit the slopes of the Remarkables. (Am Aussie ;-) )
Yeah. Let's not be judgmental. The TV and media and social media bombardment is almost totally irresistible for most people.
Also check out "Asch experiment". When in a group setting, several people (accomplices of the psychologist) confidently stated and agreed on some clearly and obviously nonsensical thing, 70% of test subjects agree with them when asked, after they see those accomplices express this obviously false opinion.
And 70% of people in general are vaccinated.
30% do not fall for Asch experiment and 30% are unvaccinated.
I was in a half full cinema screen (about 50 people) when I smelt smoke. No one moved. After a minute of sniffing I went to reception to report the smell (turns out they were aware of the issue). But I left 49 people in the cinema who would have happily sat there and burned to death . . .
A friend tried to engage me in discussion. I said "What can I achieve in 1 minute to try and deprogram you from 2 years of government propganda ? Probably nothing."
The reality is ... we are running out of cheap energy .. and there is no solution to that.
I have to confess... I fully support the injection program because it is going to pre-empt the suffering that is certain when the lights go off permanently and 8B hungry predators are unleashed on each other.
Will I get the injection? Nope.
I cannot endure the thought of knowing that what I am receiving is a Lethal Injection .. that is too abhorrent to endure.
But the other reason is that I fear the side-effects. The last thing I want is to have a deep brain thrombosis or a heart attack and die -- and miss the Big Show (extinction)... And the shine would come off the end of the world party if one was suffering from the Pfizer Jitters or Pfizer Heart....
No sirreee... no vaccines for me. Pure Blood to the end!
It's ok for the MOREONS to be injected because they think the injections are saving them from the Bogey Man ... and if they die or are maimed... who cares... they are what is known as ... superfluous.
If the original shots (I refuse to call them vaccines now) are a failure, and especially so after a fairly short time, it's moronic to believe the boosters would work better. More is not better.
Logic 102: All Tesla owners are Triple Injected ... all Triple Injected are MOREONS... all Tesla Owners are MOREONS... but all MOREONS are not Tesla owners because most MOREONS are barnyard animals and as we know - only the highly trained circus animals have jobs that pay enough to own a Tesla.
Of all the people I follow regarding covid (here and in other places) you are the only one pointing out that omicron is not a blessing in disguise.
Admire the fact that you follow your own ideas and data. Honestly don't know how it is going to play out, your data looks solid as always so I am inclined to believe you. However other data seems to suggest that omicron cases might be peaking already. Time will tell I guess.
I am also very hopeful for a miracle story, a fairy tale ending to this insanity. So far I am not seeing that, but I have not lost hope yet. And thanks
Are Delta deaths still overlapping with Omicron? I know there is no real way to tease this out. I’m just hopeful that the majority of Covid deaths would be from people who stayed on Ventilators for a while with Delta. That would allow for the Omicron to truly be the milder version we hear about.
I’ve also heard about data-smuggling where a lot of vaccine deaths somehow get recorded as Covid deaths, but I believe this is more of an issue in the US than the UK. However, don’t the vaccine side effects often present as Covid-like symptoms? And with such an unreliable test with so many false positives….
Interesting that it’s concentrated in the 20-39 age group. Boosting may have been low on Dec 5th but has been really high in the past couple of weeks. Seven day average is over 800 thousand and they’re still pushing it hard. 20-39 is the age group I’ve really noticed standing in those queues. They really stick out to me so they must be pretty high now
I wrote a post about it. "Boris Johnson's biggest blunder". Boosters have negative effectiveness in the first two weeks and giving them out is like putting gasoline on fire,.
Interesting. So 69% of those infected with Omicron were double or triple vaccinated and the vaccination rate for the UK is 82% of those over 12. So there is seemingly some protection offered by the vaccines? Or am I misreading that? Also, of the deaths I didn't see anywhere that it's indicated their vaccination status, can you direct me to where that's found?
Oh sorry, I'm referring to the UK technical briefing. Page 23 has the distribution of cases for vaccination status. I can't find anywhere they refer to vaccination status for deceased, which I find frustrating, especially because this is basically nonexistent elsewhere, too. It's like no one is publishing that info....
That would mean 18% of UK is unvaccinated. Although presumably more have been vaccinated since that report was released, since it only includes up to Dec. 17.
The comparison of Omicron v Delta hospitalisations could need to account for total cases of each in the period. Omicron is approx 70% of all cases now in UK I believe
Thanks, I should have read the Guardian article completely; however, John Campbell reports a R=1.2 also, which makes no sense in terms of such a rapid shift from delta to omicron, or R values in SA. John is good at reporting official numbers but not at (peer) reviewing them.
Apparently where a PCR fails to detect the S protein its considered Omicron; however, running PCR at too high an amplification also can cause failure. In any case, if it is not 70% now it will be soon. What I am curious about but would have to actually plot is whether delta is still growing and whether delta infected patients may also be omicron infected.
so it went from 12% to 73% in one week with new cases at 120k. Absent modeling, for which do not have time - it seems too fast unless it was circulating earlier than Dec 1 and not being tested for accurately until very recently.
Do not forget additional people arriving to the USA. Omicron may spread via some strange "lateral" means and possibly one person can infect hundreds in certain settings (like a movie theater).
Speculation: the study from Umeå in Sweden this summer showed how the vaccines efficiency drops off, and this shows how the boosters' drop off. But surely the rate of the drop off isn't static, right? It could be dynamic, increasing or decreasing, couldn't it?
Like what if the initial drop off rate is from 95% protection first week, to 15% week 25 after second shot, and then back up again, and then back down to 15% after 20 weeks, and again and again until you need a shot every week?
Since I don't have any medical background, all I can do is speculate and try to ask questions more knowledgeable people can dismiss, investigate, debate and so on.
I wonder if there's a correlation between presentation at the emergency room and the prevalence of depression, suicide, drug abuse that indicate worsening mental health of populations globally. People running to the hospital for a sniffle, or standing in line for tests without any symptoms are psychologically damaged. We're creating a generation of hypochondriacs, a natural extension of decades of indoctrination in safe spaces and social conformity by the failed education system.
This is a pandemic of foolishness.
This is very interesting point. In fact, I believe that the vaccine effectiveness measured initially is for a significant part a placebo effect. They do better because they feel safe.
On the other hand the unvaccinated face tremendous pressure every day from the government and the people around them that can lead to worse outcomes of covid.
Zero evidence for my claim of course, but it is known that mental problems (anxiety, depression) contribute to worse outcomes.
As a Pure Blood, I don't feel any anxiety.
In fact I feel more relaxed now that I have almost no contact with MOREONS and CovIDIOTS. No need to engage in banter with fools and imbeciles thanks to the segregation policies of the government.
Not being allowed into restaurants is a minimal inconvenience and I've swapped the summer ice hockey league (Pure Bloods not allowed) for more mountain biking.
And then there is the euphoria that a Pure Blood experiences seeing the Injected CovIDIOTS experiencing extreme rates of infection from Omicron. Hopefully they have permanently damaged their immune systems and they'll soon start dropping like flies.
If I am out on a trail on my bike and I see a CovIDIOT keel over I'll glide up to it ... pause for a drink of water... and ask 'how you feeling bud... you don't look so good'... and as it gasps 'help me'... I'll explain that all those Pfizer shots + boosters have wrecked your body... there's no helping you... then I will saddle up ... and kick the CovIDIOT to force it off of the track... and continue on my way...
It really is unfortunate that NZ has no predators such as wolves or bears... that might put a quick end to the CovIDIOT's suffering as it lays there waiting to die. We don't even have vultures to pick the carcass clean.
I appreciate the sentiment Eddy, I’m angry too, but our fellow humans who have fallen for the narrative, and “done what’s right”, without doing the work of further investigation (hat tip Igor), deserve our pity in my opinion.
Not everybody has resistance to such high degrees of organised social coercion, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the War enlistment effort, which of course didn’t have the whole Internet and social media angle to work with.
The people who deserve our anger are the current leaders who are doubling down on failed unscientific policies, even when they must know by now the harm to the innocent that is being caused, which is nothing short of evil.
Vote the bastards out, every single one of them, from either side, whoever played the “game” of pitting one segment of society against the other.
Hand the country over to a coalition of random fringe politicians, who will mostly rise to the occasion once given the reality of political responsibility.
Keep up the biking brother - looking forward to getting back to NZ once this madness abates - am way overdue to hit the slopes of the Remarkables. (Am Aussie ;-) )
Yeah. Let's not be judgmental. The TV and media and social media bombardment is almost totally irresistible for most people.
Also check out "Asch experiment". When in a group setting, several people (accomplices of the psychologist) confidently stated and agreed on some clearly and obviously nonsensical thing, 70% of test subjects agree with them when asked, after they see those accomplices express this obviously false opinion.
And 70% of people in general are vaccinated.
30% do not fall for Asch experiment and 30% are unvaccinated.
I was in a half full cinema screen (about 50 people) when I smelt smoke. No one moved. After a minute of sniffing I went to reception to report the smell (turns out they were aware of the issue). But I left 49 people in the cinema who would have happily sat there and burned to death . . .
A friend tried to engage me in discussion. I said "What can I achieve in 1 minute to try and deprogram you from 2 years of government propganda ? Probably nothing."
The reality is ... we are running out of cheap energy .. and there is no solution to that.
I have to confess... I fully support the injection program because it is going to pre-empt the suffering that is certain when the lights go off permanently and 8B hungry predators are unleashed on each other.
Will I get the injection? Nope.
I cannot endure the thought of knowing that what I am receiving is a Lethal Injection .. that is too abhorrent to endure.
But the other reason is that I fear the side-effects. The last thing I want is to have a deep brain thrombosis or a heart attack and die -- and miss the Big Show (extinction)... And the shine would come off the end of the world party if one was suffering from the Pfizer Jitters or Pfizer Heart....
No sirreee... no vaccines for me. Pure Blood to the end!
It's ok for the MOREONS to be injected because they think the injections are saving them from the Bogey Man ... and if they die or are maimed... who cares... they are what is known as ... superfluous.
And that is why I am unvaccinated - peace of mind after considering what is best for me both now AND in the future.
Apparently, fluvoxamine shows efficacy in treating covid patients. That drug is usually used to treat anxiety… interesting.
A very interesting thought
If the original shots (I refuse to call them vaccines now) are a failure, and especially so after a fairly short time, it's moronic to believe the boosters would work better. More is not better.
It is beyond moronic
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-insist-that-true-vaccines-havent-been-tried-yet
Injections sounds more ... sinister. Injections are what they give to murderers on death row :)
"Soon booster effectiveness will need to be measured by the hour.
All these people wasted their day, waiting in line, pretty much for nothing."
Nah, not wasted. Those heart attacks and guillain-barre syndrome episodes aren't going to simply propagate themselves overnight!!
Come on man you and I know that this happens due to climate change
There surely must be a very tight correlation between climate change groupies and CovIDIOCY...
inability to discern bullshit is the key trait here... Also called "critical thinking"
Logic 102: All Tesla owners are Triple Injected ... all Triple Injected are MOREONS... all Tesla Owners are MOREONS... but all MOREONS are not Tesla owners because most MOREONS are barnyard animals and as we know - only the highly trained circus animals have jobs that pay enough to own a Tesla.
Of all the people I follow regarding covid (here and in other places) you are the only one pointing out that omicron is not a blessing in disguise.
Admire the fact that you follow your own ideas and data. Honestly don't know how it is going to play out, your data looks solid as always so I am inclined to believe you. However other data seems to suggest that omicron cases might be peaking already. Time will tell I guess.
I am also very hopeful for a miracle story, a fairy tale ending to this insanity. So far I am not seeing that, but I have not lost hope yet. And thanks
That's because Igor is not a MOREON. If he was a MOREON he would read CNN and the BBC and be told to think about omicron.
Yeah, likewise. I appreciate you presenting the counterfactual
Dr Chetty, from South Africa, says (and I paraphrase) that Omicron is the variant that you would want to catch since it is presenting so mild. He believes it is nonsensical to boost when there is a mild variant which could help everyone reach herd immunity. https://covexit.com/dr-shankara-chetty-interview-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-omicron/
Per Jessica Rose: Omicron is a live-attenuated viral vaccine...
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/omicron-is-a-live-attenuated-viral
Yet companies are going full steam ahead with the Biden vaccine mandates :(
Yup. It's a fight to the death: the death of vaccine mandates/passports or the death of liberty.
The obvious solution is to increase the frequency of the boosters!
And what about these new magic Pfizer anti-covid pills? Surely those will help.
And then there's the Moderna anti-covid chewing gum.
Astra Zeneca has the long-suck anti-covid lollies .
Make sure to eliminate all generic cheap medications, as they are against science
Are Delta deaths still overlapping with Omicron? I know there is no real way to tease this out. I’m just hopeful that the majority of Covid deaths would be from people who stayed on Ventilators for a while with Delta. That would allow for the Omicron to truly be the milder version we hear about.
I’ve also heard about data-smuggling where a lot of vaccine deaths somehow get recorded as Covid deaths, but I believe this is more of an issue in the US than the UK. However, don’t the vaccine side effects often present as Covid-like symptoms? And with such an unreliable test with so many false positives….
Covid symptoms and vaccine symptoms mainly happen because of Spike-protein
Interesting that it’s concentrated in the 20-39 age group. Boosting may have been low on Dec 5th but has been really high in the past couple of weeks. Seven day average is over 800 thousand and they’re still pushing it hard. 20-39 is the age group I’ve really noticed standing in those queues. They really stick out to me so they must be pretty high now
I wrote a post about it. "Boris Johnson's biggest blunder". Boosters have negative effectiveness in the first two weeks and giving them out is like putting gasoline on fire,.
I have read the report, and I don’t understand. How can/do they estimate booster effectiveness after 10 weeks?
Because they’ve been boosting since September
But omicron has only been around for a month so how can they estimate how quickly the booster will fade?
Interesting. So 69% of those infected with Omicron were double or triple vaccinated and the vaccination rate for the UK is 82% of those over 12. So there is seemingly some protection offered by the vaccines? Or am I misreading that? Also, of the deaths I didn't see anywhere that it's indicated their vaccination status, can you direct me to where that's found?
Could you refer me to a specific page of a specific document? Thanks
Oh sorry, I'm referring to the UK technical briefing. Page 23 has the distribution of cases for vaccination status. I can't find anywhere they refer to vaccination status for deceased, which I find frustrating, especially because this is basically nonexistent elsewhere, too. It's like no one is publishing that info....
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043680/technical-briefing-33.pdf
Hi. Table 4 on page 23 is for hospitalizations, not just cases, right?
If so, exclude the "unlinked" persons as their status is not known.
We get: 27/(27+1+7+74+17) = 21% of admitted are never vaccinated.
The rest, 79%, are vaccinated.
The UK seems to be 25% fully unvaccinated "pure blood" citizens, per https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
So... 25% pure bloods as percent of population... 21% of hospital admissions.
Not a lot of admission data yet to make firm conclusions
Oh yes, hospitalized, not cases! The UK website says that 82% of the population have received two doses, as per this page: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.119131146.284753693.1627451226-1172121892.1614662490
That would mean 18% of UK is unvaccinated. Although presumably more have been vaccinated since that report was released, since it only includes up to Dec. 17.
That's population over 12
Covid-19 mortality: One per mille. Protection? I am only concerned about protection from the poison death shots masquerading as vaccines.
The comparison of Omicron v Delta hospitalisations could need to account for total cases of each in the period. Omicron is approx 70% of all cases now in UK I believe
70% is from a CDC site report that is clearly erroneous. UK at 17%
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/23/if-omicron-is-the-dominant-variant-in-uk-why-is-the-number-of-confirmed-cases-so-low
Not CDC see https://youtu.be/4qzKh_S4Qs0
Thanks, I should have read the Guardian article completely; however, John Campbell reports a R=1.2 also, which makes no sense in terms of such a rapid shift from delta to omicron, or R values in SA. John is good at reporting official numbers but not at (peer) reviewing them.
Apparently where a PCR fails to detect the S protein its considered Omicron; however, running PCR at too high an amplification also can cause failure. In any case, if it is not 70% now it will be soon. What I am curious about but would have to actually plot is whether delta is still growing and whether delta infected patients may also be omicron infected.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
so it went from 12% to 73% in one week with new cases at 120k. Absent modeling, for which do not have time - it seems too fast unless it was circulating earlier than Dec 1 and not being tested for accurately until very recently.
ok, using https://cmmid.github.io/visualisations/covid-transmission-model and a R4, there is no way that there was one case December 1 (or Nov 24 when SA reported) and 70,000 cases per day today.
Do not forget additional people arriving to the USA. Omicron may spread via some strange "lateral" means and possibly one person can infect hundreds in certain settings (like a movie theater).
?
Speculation: the study from Umeå in Sweden this summer showed how the vaccines efficiency drops off, and this shows how the boosters' drop off. But surely the rate of the drop off isn't static, right? It could be dynamic, increasing or decreasing, couldn't it?
Like what if the initial drop off rate is from 95% protection first week, to 15% week 25 after second shot, and then back up again, and then back down to 15% after 20 weeks, and again and again until you need a shot every week?
Since I don't have any medical background, all I can do is speculate and try to ask questions more knowledgeable people can dismiss, investigate, debate and so on.
Anyways, God Jul to you all!