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As a family, we caught Covid over Christmas 2019/20 (yay for Alpha).

My wife and 2 adult children have each had 2 vaccine shots. I am unvaccinated.

My wife has since had Covid a further 2 times, my eldest is on her 4th instance, my youngest on her 2nd.

I have never had Covid since Jan 2020. At least not that I have noticed !!

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Potatodots's avatar

No, her theory doesn't hold up at all.

People who are healthy do everything healthy, are not exposed to toxins still do get sick. It cannot all be explained as the body ejecting poisons.

There is the germ theory, and the terrain theory and the systems out of balance theory that all have some basis. If you have been blessed by not having contract any of the lab created covid-19s, you are very blessed.

I can provide several papers regarding isolating viruses, but I am sure that you would find flaws galore not to accept some might have relevance.

I had Wuhan and it was beyond anything I had experienced before. I do not understand how you can go with the "there are no viruses" when several have been synthesized and they do infect and raise hell. There are substantial proofs of viral transmission studies - the ultimate test of is there an agent that is transmissible.

Dr.Vollmer was emphatic but she still didn't explain. She just kept banging the "it's in your head" drum.

I agree that the pcr didn't test for SARS2 - they still do not due to big flaws. Serology does better. The CDC pcr that was granted EUA and was then licensed had zero SARS2 sequences or primers, and that is in the EUA application. The CDC claimed that it didn't have any SARS2 sequences, so made selections from its "library." Apparently, everyone else had sequences given the literature starting in January 2020 but the CDC couldn't figure anything out. That FDA gave its approval is blatant in everyone's face criminal fraud that the agencies, MsM, medical and scientific communities went along with!? O.M.G. SARS2 like other diseases are clinical diagnoses. A "test" cannot ever be equivalent to a "confirmed case," and it is indeed a "pandemic" of fraud and a huge psy-op. But the agents of illness the cabal continues to spread, and the jabs - yes that is poison.

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John's avatar

"I had Wuhan and it was beyond anything I had experienced before."

Maybe you did experience something different but that says nothing of what the cause was. Perhaps you were exposed to some radiation or toxic chemicals.

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Georgi's avatar

The first vaxx then covid (optimistic) anecdote:

We caught Omicron as a family in March 2022. Kids and myself unvaxxed, wife with 2 shots ca. 9M earlier.

In August 2022 we got massive Omicron exposure: multiple days in a small apartment together with grandparents coughing and sneezing all over the place, also confirmed by positive tests. None of us got covid! Me and the kids expectedly cause unvaxxed, but my vaccinated wife did dodge it as well. This means she, as a vaccinated person, did build reasonable immunity after her infection.

There is hope for sure. Just stop getting those boosters.

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Ray's avatar

polio is a fraud

its toxic poisoning

this time is the jabs, they create a toxin , NY is high dense and highly jabbed = polio/toxic poisoning

let's take a look at history and polio!

1824: Metal workers had suffered for centuries from a paralysis similar to polio caused by the lead and arsenic in the metals they were working with. English scientist John Cooke observed: 'The fumes from these metals, or the receptance of them in solution into the stomach, often causes paralysis.'

1890: Lead arsenate pesticide started to be sprayed in the US up to 12 times every summer to kill codling moth on apple crops.

1892: Polio outbreaks began to occur in Vermont, an apple growing region. In his report the Government Inspector Dr. Charles Caverly noted that parents reported that some children fell ill after eating fruit. He stated that 'infantile paralysis usually occurred in families with more than one child, and as no efforts were made at isolation it was very certain it was non-contagious' (with only one child in the family having been struck).

1907: Calcium arsenate comes into use primarily on cotton crops.

1908: In a Massachusetts town with three cotton mills and apple orchards, 69 children suddenly fell ill with infantile paralysis.

1909: The UK bans apple imports from the States because of heavy lead arsenate residues.

1921: Franklin D. Roosevelt develops polio after swimming in Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick. Toxicity of water may have been due to pollution run-off.

1943: DDT is introduced, a neurotoxic pesticide. Over the next several years it comes into widespread use in American households. For example, wall paper impregnated with DDT was placed in children's bedrooms.

1943: A polio epidemic in the UK town of Broadstairs, Kent is linked to a local dairy where cows were washed down with DDT.

1944: Albert Sabin reports that a major cause of sickness and death of American troops based in the Philippines was poliomyelitis. US military camps there were sprayed daily with DDT to kill mosquitoes. Neighboring Philippine settlements were not affected.

1944: NIH reports that DDT damages the same anterior horn cells that are damaged in infantile paralysis.

1946: Gebhaedt shows polio seasonality correlates with fruit harvest.

1949: Endocrinologist Dr Morton Biskind, a practitioner and medical researcher, found that DDT causes 'lesions in the spinal cord similar to human polio.'

1950: US Public Health Industrial Hygiene Medical Director, J.G. Townsend, notes the similarity between parathion poisoning and polio and believes that some polio might be caused by eating fruits or vegetables with parathion residues.

1951: Dr. Biskind treats his polio patients as poisoning victims, removing toxins from food and environment, especially DDT contaminated milk and butter. Dr. Biskind writes: 'Although young animals are more susceptible to the effects of DDT than adults, so far as the available literature is concerned, it does not appear that the effects of such concentrations on infants and children have even been considered.'

1949-1951: Other doctors report they are having success treating polio with anti toxins used to treat poisoning, dimercaprol and ascorbic acid. Example: Dr. F. R. Klenner reported: 'In the poliomyelitis epidemic in North Carolina in 1948 60 cases of this disease came under our care... The treatment was massive doses of vitamin C every two to four hours. Children up to four years received vitamin C injection intramuscularly... All patients were clinically well after 72 hours.'

1950: Dr. Biskind presents evidence to the US Congress that pesticides were the major cause of polio epidemics. He is joined by Dr. Ralph Scobey who reported he found clear evidence of poisoning when analyzing chemical traces in the blood of polio victims.

Comment: This was a no no. The viral causation theory was not something to be questioned. The careers of prominent virologists and health authorities were threatened. Biskind and Scobey's ideas were subjected to ridicule.

1953: Clothes are moth-proofed by washing them in EQ-53, a formula containing DDT.

1953: Dr. Biskind writes: 'It was known by 1945 that DDT was stored in the body fat of mammals and appears in their milk... yet far from admitting a causal relationship between DDT and polio that is so obvious, which in any other field of biology would be instantly accepted, virtually the entire apparatus of communication, lay and scientific alike, has been devoted to denying, concealing, suppressing, distorting and attempts to convert into its opposite this overwhelming evidence. Libel, slander, and economic boycott have not been overlooked in this campaign.'

1954: Legislation recognizing the dangers of persistent pesticides is enacted, and a phase out of DDT in the US accelerates along with a shift of sales of DDT to third world countries.

(Note that DDT is phased out at the same time as widespread polio vaccinations begin. Saying that, polio cases sky rocket only in communities that accept the polio vaccine, as the polio vaccine is laced with heavy metals and other toxins, so the paralysis narrative starts all over again. As the polio vaccines cause huge spikes in polio, the misinformed public demand more polio vaccine and the cycle spirals skyward exponentially)

1956: the American Medical Association mandated that all licensed medical doctors could no longer classify polio as polio. All polio diagnosis would be rejected in favor of Guillian-Barre Syndrome, AFP (acute flaccid paralysis), Bell's Palsy, Cerebral Palsy, ALS, (Lou-Gehrig's Disease), MS, MD etc etc. This sleight of hand was fabricated with the sole intent of giving the public the impression that the polio vaccine was successful at decreasing polio or eradicating polio. The public bought this hook, line and sinker and to this very day, many pro vaccine arguments are ignited by the manufactured lie regarding the polio vaccine eradicating polio.

1962: Rachel Carson's Silent Spring is published.

1968: DDT registration cancelled for the US.

2008: Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) is still a raging in many parts of the world where pesticide use is high, and DDT is still used. AFP. MS, MD, Bell's Palsy, cerebral palsy, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Guillian-Barre are all catch basket diagnosis, all similar in symtpoms, tied to heavy metal poisoning and high toxic load.

2008: WHO states on its website: 'There is no cure for polio. Its effects are irreversible.'

Conclusion: Modern belief that polio is caused by a virus is an ongoing tragedy for the children of the world. Public funds are wasted on useless and dangerous vaccines when the children could be treated with antitoxins. A call into failing vaccine mythology is warranted, as is a complete investigation of the real agenda being executed against humanity involving science, chemicals, vaccines, the medical field in general, and the government.

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marsilius's avatar

thanks for this. before covid, i--following the company line--thought that vaccine conspiracy theorists were nuts. just like they wanted me to think. then i caught covid in june 2020. when these vaccines came out, i desperately wanted them to work--to end this "pandemic." and bc i knew almost all of my loved ones would take them. but i was totally suspicious of the claims at the time that natural immunity, what i had, was insufficient since natural immunity was always prized before covid. i'm indebted to martin kulldorff for stating that natural immunity was sufficient. so i didn't take the poison but followed its effects and how it's covered in the press. bc of that whole experience i'm rethinking old dogmas re vaccines in general. so, again, thank you for this

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

Humanity has been given the scariest wake-up call of all. Don't give up. This isn't over by a long-shot.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Without a doubt! It us going to be relentless

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

The filth killed my feline baby girl. My grief has turned to rage.👹👎👊

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’ve stopped vaxxing my doodles, my cat and to a large

extent, my horses.

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EO 9066's avatar

Yeah. Definitely don't vaccinate your horses. Try to find a vet who will pull a rabies titre if you need one.

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Stephenie's avatar

Im so sorry for your loss! Our cat got very ill in march 2021. We paid $500 to save her life. I swear it was corona. Massive fever and inability to eat for weeks. Grateful she’s still with us. And that I am now committed to keeping her out of hotels that require vax when we are going on vacation !

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

I'm soooo glad your baby pulled through!❤

My 8 year young girl had no obvious symptoms leading up to her death [eating/drinking normal and not fussy] but seemed a bit 'tired' the night before and then I found her dead in her favorite chair the next morning. It was so much like the sudden deaths happening to humans it was creepy awful. I was under the very FALSE belief that cats handle covid pretty well but because my Hattie was a bit on the chunky side, it obviously put her at greater risk and I should have been treating her with Ivermectin as a prophylactic. I've already lost my sense of smell once but can you imagine if a cat loses their sense of smell? That's one thing that worries me because they would just refuse to eat if they couldn't smell or hardly taste food! This bioweapon just pisses me off now more than ever.

Thank you for your compassionate words. I'm thankful for her baby sister still with me but I'm obsessed with checking on her to make sure she's okay (I must drive her nuts). She misses her big sister so much it's tough to see how lonely she is without her. I'll probably think seriously about getting her a little sister in time but right now it's just too painful to do.

Take good care!

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Plum's avatar

Im so sorry 💔♥️

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

Thank you, punkin. It hurts so bad missing her breathing next to me. She would literally lay her head on the pillow next t o me like a human. When I adopted her she was all skinny and frail and hormonal because she was pregnant when she was brought to the shelter and they aborted her kittens when they wen to 'fix' her. She was so traumatized and her kitty boobs were full of milk and I tried to figure out a way to heal her loss so I gave her a full litter of beanie babies. She took right to them and would adorably carry them in her mouth like a mama cat and plop them down all over the house. When I was ill or sad she's plop some of her beanies around my bed like protection totems.

I miss her so much.

I'm blessed in that I dreamed she died 7 days before her death and the dream was so scary real I voice recorded it on my stupid phone. When I woke up, I rushed to find her okay and alive and I was so glad and I spent her last remaining days with me telling her how much I loved her.

If only I'd known to give her Ivermectin, she'd no doubt be alive to day

The suffering from this bio-weapon hit too close to home for me. I'm angry as hell. I hope every filthy, slimey, scuzzy, POS who concocted this chimeric spike protein is locked up naked, covered in sticky honey and quivering in an acrylic coffin with every stinging insect known to man, dropped in the middle of the hottest desert. Oh but a girl can dream.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Long shot… I see what you did there!

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John Davison's avatar

The only good thing that will come out of this is to make more and people anti-vaxxers in general.

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Kim's avatar

rethinking everything for my children re: vaxx, and no more flu shots for me (haven't had one in years) for me either....ever

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marsilius's avatar

my last flu shot was and will be 2019

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Surak's avatar

Wow. You have given me food for thought. I would like to read more about this. Any suggestions?

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Ray's avatar

'the moth in the iron lung' by forrest maready

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Surak's avatar

Thank you, Ray. Others have suggested "Dissolving Illusions" and I think I will start there. Thanks for putting me on this path.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS

A SHOT in the DARK

MOTH in the IRON LUNG

THE VACCINE BOOK

and many more. Read ANYTHING by RFK, Jr., especially THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI. It’s a bestseller yet MSM? CRICKETS! Buy it just to chap them.

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Kelly's avatar

Absolutely THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI. You've got a great reading list set up for an ideal curriculum. Looks quite comprehensive . I'll have to explore your suggestions further. I'd also recommend Judy Mikovits' trilogy. Much of it is quite suspenseful.

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Kelly's avatar

I just be began reading "Turtles All the Way Down" , edited by Mary Holland. Quite good. Explains a lot.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I am buying that book RN! Thx!

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TT's avatar

Also The Poisoned Needle and Virus mania.

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Jaye's avatar

Dissolving Illusions (Humphries/Bystrianuk)

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Ann K.'s avatar

“Dissolving Illusions,” by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. It’s available for free in .pdf form online.

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Amy Doescher's avatar

“The moth in the iron lung”

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Janet's avatar

When I was 5 years old in 1953 I got sick and ended up in the hospital. What I heard when older was that they thought I had polio. But then “kidney infection “. That’s all I ever knew. I was raised on a farm with pesticides around. The past year I have been detoxing from high lead and arsenic levels. Should I be connecting any dots here? I recovered as a child but had anxiety and mild OCD snd an eating disorder until my 30’s. I did read Dissolving Illusions about vaccine history. So much is becoming clearer now.

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EO 9066's avatar

Definitely detox. You can try chelation but that might be tough if you had compromised kidneys. Plenty of ways to do it naturally. Find a competent naturopath to guide you. You can do it!

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Janet's avatar

My functional medicine doc discovered the problem last year and I’ve been on a long slow detox that also included natural supplements. I’m done with this round Getting results the end of the month. Every round levels went down. My anxiety has dropped enormously I noticed.

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EO 9066's avatar

That's great. Definitely spend time in the sun and barefoot or get a grounding mat!

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JustANobody's avatar

What is a Functioal Medicine Doctor Exactly? Thank you.!

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rempaul's avatar

In some countries known as Integrated Medicine. Medical doctors who have holistic or naturopathic training as well.

There are usually Associations you can contact.

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JustANobody's avatar

Thank you so much for explaining in simple terms.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Detox!!!

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Gordie Lawrence's avatar

....and here am I a member of a highly ethical organisation - Rotary, that’s financially supports Bill Gates in the elimination of Polio, via vaccines. Thanks for your informative post. Seems ethically that I’ll have to resign from this group. I had suspected this deception for some time, knowing what a lowlife criminal Gates is. I honestly don’t think that Rotary members know, certainly not in Australia. Surely some of them must. The news just keeps getting worse

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

This is one kick@ss post! Bless you!!!!!

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Paulette's avatar

Perhaps show some receptive members this post.

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Gordie Lawrence's avatar

I doubt I’ll have success Paulette. I’m the only one in a club of 11 not juiced. They are essentially an older demographic. I love the organisation and the work they but not immune to deception clearly. At least that’s how I see it. However I will talk to the Aust head office but fear it will fall on deaf ears.

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Unbekoming's avatar

Hello Gordon

I think you will find The Moth in the Iron Lung very informative. It's a short read but you will come to think about polio in an entirely different way.

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/while-in-the-forest-i-found-maready

From a fellow Australian (Sydney)

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Gordie Lawrence's avatar

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll look it up

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Dr. Hubris's avatar

Freaking WOW!

Thanks, Ray!

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Paradocz's avatar

The drug diethylstilbestrol or DES is a synthetic estrogenic drug developed in 1938 by the NHS to stop Hitler's scientists from trying to patent "artificial & bio-identical hormones". American feminist supporters of Planned Parenthood decided to experiment with DES, using as their guinea pigs; recent E. European immigrants & poor people living in the coal towns of Appalachia, Blacks in inner cities and poor immigrants in the cities and and farms of the South. The offspring coming out of these experiments are most of the people with rare and common diseases along with mysterious conditions like lupus & MS can be tied to the mutagenic effect of getting high doses of DES daily in the womb.

As estrogen is a necessary hormone for proper immune function in all men and women and 12% of us have damages, its easy to follow the transcription path to see how comorbidities from fetal DES exposure are the cause of most Covid 19 deaths.

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Research studies show maternal burst of estrogen are often triggers that determine cellular differentiation at early stages of fetal development along sexual differentiation in body form, metabolism, even sexual orientation which is due to hormone production ratios and expression.

A study put out this week by the AMA showed that men with hypogandism were highly vulnerable to severe and long Covid 19. Hypogandism is a result of DES induced changes to hormone expression that's seen in men that were exposed for most of gestation or had a parent or two who were exposed during development.

When DES went from miracle drug to highly mutagenic carcinogen in 1972, Congress spent three FULL MONTHS investigating and then they voted to halt all funds for researching DES a few years later. Thank you Al Gore, John Kerry and Brandon.

DES is the cause of sexual dysphoria we see mostly in the Left. This goes to another finding, DES destroys the mother's deep tie to her offspring. I call this shitty mom syndrome. SMS IS seen in the results of these 2020 protests and the leftist demands for the maternal love of the State & want for the economic security of a daddy by demanding the State hold the role of paternity they believe lies in Socialism.

The leftist are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome they caught during Obama's reign.

The Grand Illusion is the sexual changes in society are real but these mutants (respectfully said) are not natural.

But the AMA, Planned Parenthood and the Democrats bureaucratic state will never admit what happened. I found this coverup while searching for a cure for my covid identical disease I have had since 2015

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Original Owner's avatar

I think most of the divide is in fact not left vs. right but top vs. bottom. The economic elite have eaten almost all of what used to be considered "the left."

The financier Jay Gould, good friend of J.P. Morgan, is credited with saying that he could always hire half the working class to kill the other half. Well, if you buy up the political representation of the working class, you don't have to kill anybody, at least not directly.

Not that the other side of the political house is on the side of the average person, either. The two US political parties act out a kind of shadow-boxing culture war which distracts a great many people from 1. the political class picking their pockets and 2. the political class not defending those pockets from being picked by the wealthy, e.g., employers and purveyors of deficient goods.

It's a great big club and you're (probably) not in it. Everything they get you riled up about is vaseline to make it easier for them to, well, you know.

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Connie Benn's avatar

My sister passed away a few years ago from multiple myeloma. When I asked her what the doctors said about her cancer, she said they told her it was from a virus. When I was cleaning out her house I found tons of a popular weed killer in her garage as she was an avid gardener and her yard was full of poison ivy. Pretty sure it was the weed killer.

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Ray's avatar

seems much more likely. funny how wild animals dont get cancer but humans and their pets do. tells you its environmental/ingestion

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Original Owner's avatar

Of course, part of that is that if you're living wild, you're likely to get eaten before you get cancer.

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Ray's avatar

you tell that to the lions or crocodiles or hippos, they die through injury or old age or humans, not myeloma or prostate cancer etc

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Original Owner's avatar

I'm sure toxic crap wrecks a lot of people's health. One day, maybe we won't have to choose between living as an apex predator and living in a swamp of chemical waste.

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RE Nichols's avatar

Sickly creatures are the first to be caught and eaten.

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RE Nichols's avatar

How do we know that? Have scientists caught random samplings of wild animals to examine their bodies for cancer?

If researchers have proven that wildlife is cancer free, please share. I'd like to know. Perhaps they have.

BTW, this still would not disprove that chemicals are to blame. Wild animals are exposed too,

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

A ray of light you are, Ray.

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Morton Winner's avatar

OK,Ray- would you please submit a list of antitoxins; routes of administration ( oral,IM, IV, etc); any prior reports of demonstrated efficacy, and in which disease it was found to be efficacious; and finally, in which other diseases it may reasonably be expected to be efficacious. This information may prove to be of inestimable value if tabulated and published ! Thank you.

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Ray's avatar

NAC, IV Vit C, liposomal Vic C, Glutathione, the efficacy is mentioned in the above comment repeated here:

Example: Dr. F. R. Klenner reported: 'In the poliomyelitis epidemic in North Carolina in 1948 60 cases of this disease came under our care... The treatment was massive doses of vitamin C every two to four hours. Children up to four years received vitamin C injection intramuscularly... All patients were clinically well after 72 hours.'

i have no info on other diseases but these same treatments may help in trauma injury if the patient is monitored for serum C levels hourly and kept above 0 continuously. i got info on this many years a go but can no longer find it on the internet, a doctor did trials in an ER and saved a lot more patients than usual following this.

the theory is that vitamin C is a electron donor and cells that are damaged die off unless the body can keep up with a supply of electrons to keep them alive. humans dont make vitamin C unlike most animals so this seems to be a key to survival of the injured

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Dan Star's avatar

Pre China Virus I did IV Vit C 75 grams 1 or 2 times per month. It helped me fight a chronic viral illness. I am now using Citrus Bioflavonoids and Leucine amino acid to help clean up viral infected cells.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Swanson Vitamin's 600 mg. capsules of NAC (Cysteine, an amino acid) have kept me from having any flu, Coronavirus, and any COVIDS since 2009. About $10.00 a bottle.

Child: 1/Daily Adult: 2/Daily No flu shots either! I post publicly and freely on MeWe.

The already jabbed should also take it! IT WORKS!

SURVIVE AND STAY WELL NATURALLY!

ETERNAL LIFE BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!

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Original Owner's avatar

A company called Perque Integrated Health makes a vitamin C that's buffered, so not acidic, and contains only the left-handed isomer of ascorbate, which is the isomer the body uses (the other, right-handed, isomer mainly irritates the gut). It's more expensive, but also more effective per gram. They sell it in capsules and as powder.

Works for me.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I like Swanson Vitamins' C 1000 mg. Ascorbic Acid with Rosehips capsules. Very reasonable. I take three a day: one in a.m., one with meal, one at night. I do not have any problem with gut irritation. About $10.00 for bottle of 250.

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JustANobody's avatar

Thats what we take.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Healthy for you!

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Dr Linda's avatar

John Paul recently posted an extensive review of the spike protein and effects on the immune system and potential aggravation or initiation of other disease conditions. It’s a good read, take a look.

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Athena's avatar

Yes, could you please provide a link?

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EO 9066's avatar

Can you share a link? Thank you!

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Tommy's avatar

Sounds like high dose vitamin C, as a start?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Excess vitamin C is excreted in the urine.

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JustANobody's avatar

Or diarrhea. In my case I had to find my balance and lower dose.

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HialeahRouge's avatar

Fat soluble C (C Ester, palmitate) is much more highly absorbable and effective than Ester C (ascórbico acid) which you eliminate in your urine.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I have heard that the body seems to absorb all forms of Vitamin C

quite comparably. This means we may not need to buy the more expensive

forms of it. I don't.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I agree. But it is hard to take too much since most does bioaccumulate. Perhaps I misunderstood the delivery system.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Our bodies can absorb up to 2000 mg. of C at one time.

We need to get it everyday.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Drinking it? I am not saying we shouldn’t have it. I was a big fan of Linus Pauling when others were ignoring him or look laughing at him even though he got a Nobel Prize. I am a big fan of vitamin C. I take it every day.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

THE NATURAL HEALTH LIBRARY on FB has excellent detox methods in their files. Everyrhing I’ve read and tried if theirs exceeds expectations.

FLCCC and Dr. Zev Zelenko have helpful post jab detoxes.

Many autistic children have been helped using zeolite, bentonite clay and soaking in epsom salts.

A friend takes activated charcoal anytime he thinks he may “be over served this evening😜”. I copied him one New Year’s Eve before going to a party. It was HELPFUL (not that I was inebriated by any stretch…) I know a handful of autistic kids’ parents who use a couple of different protocols and their children have progressed by leaps and bounds.

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Mom in Florida's avatar

I would love to know what protocols the parents of autistic children use. I have an adhd daughter and to think I may have caused it is heartbreaking.

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Ray's avatar

ive heard great things with zeolites with autistic kids. clean diet helps massively with adhd, low carb/sugar but that can be tricky as they are often the fussiest eaters

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Mark's avatar

Ray do read My life without bread -Dr Lutz at 90 by my wife Valerie Bracken. He describes how to go Low Card safely ,and after 25 years experience I know it helps and works. and can help..

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Janet's avatar

I read dr William Davis book Wheat Belly. It explained quite a few problems I had had neurologically. when I don’t eat wheat and grains I feel my best. I’m Starting a detox of grains soon. They tend to creep back in. Just had a major surgery and this might help healing with more C. Not celiac but sensitive. I know this would help my teen grandkid but this sort of diet change won’t happen. I live too far away also. Sigh.

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JustANobody's avatar

Also Red dyes! Green dyes, blue dyes ect. Get kids, also adults off any foods with these.

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Frank Ploegman's avatar

You may find the following video's useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csS7W_P-NlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTuq73nhTA

There is also a strong signal that chlorine dioxide is helpful with autism. I have done about 80 hours of research on this substance, and come to the preliminary conclusion that not only is it almost free (if you buy the raw ingredients) and incredibly safe, but an almost universal cure. However, it is critical to do your own research and thinking. All those in the allopathic medicine business model are highly threatened by this substance, and will move heaven and earth to demonize both this substance and its promoters. If you Google 'chlorine dioxide', you will 'learn' that it is highly toxic bleach, and that dr. Andreas Kalcker is a snake oil salesman. These are all lies.

Dr. Eric Berg recommends cod liver oil (high in omega 3) for ADHD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVFnq5j0mzY

Dr. Rhonda Patrick also stresses omega 3 (upwards of 3 grams per day fish oil), and also vitamin D. See @ 41 min:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OcsrPkdW3Y

I know a mother who has a daughter with ADHD. She has told me that 1000 mg L-theanine per day has helped her daughter a lot.

Hope this helps.

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Janet's avatar

How do we know the fish oil is not oxidized in the botany the time we get it. A reason I don’t trust some brands. Any suggestions as to better brands?

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Frank Ploegman's avatar

I personally dislike most supplements for the reason that you mention and more. That's one of the many reasons I always prefer whole food if possible, and suggest that others consume whole food.

Small fatty fish, such as anchovies, sardines and herring, are a good source of omega 3 fatty acids. Salmon can be a good source too, but can be contaminated. There's a documentary on this.

Cod liver (oil) is supposed to be a very good source of at least omega 3 and vitamin A.

I've heard that preparation matters: the more you cook, the more omega 3 fatty acids get destroyed/oxidized, so eat raw or minimally cooked.

Long story short: if you want omega 3 fatty acids, consume enough minimally cooked, small, fatty fish. Avoid supplements if possible.

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EO 9066's avatar

Check out the GAPS diet (Dr Campbell McBride)

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Paulette's avatar

And maybe chelation? EDTA?

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Ray's avatar

chelation after maybe, if done properly and safely, it can strip you of good minerals too if done wrong

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Athena's avatar

Thanks for this excellent, comprehensive summary!

The frauds and the fraudsters need to be exposed.

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Ranganuts's avatar

There is a lot of evidence to support the toxic poisoning hypothesis. Thomas Midgley Jnr, (arguably an individual who inadvertently caused more deaths in the world than anyone due to his creations), contracted polio in 1940 after successive lead poisoning episodes. He invented leaded fuel, CFC's and had over 100 patents. Quite an interesting read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

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Amy144's avatar

Two and a half years ago, this would have seemed impossible to me. Not anymore.

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Janet's avatar

Speaking of coding moths. I believe the Novavax jab is using moth cells. Nope. Not in me.

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Dr. Hubris's avatar

Why? Your wool sweaters would look delish AND you will be able to fly :P!

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Janet's avatar

OMG. THANKS for the laugh. 😂😂. I’m a sweater gal for sure.

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Paulette's avatar

Wow!

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Wyatt's avatar

Did you copy this from a Reddit thread?

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Alice's avatar

Anecdotally my husband I, both unvaccinated and focused on a healthy lifestyle, have noticed the vaccinated over the last 20 months have had strokes, eye issues, died in their sleep, have had a cancer diagnosis, kidney issues and a host of other issues. Also I’ve noted all my vaxxed co-workers are chronically ill with respiratory type symptoms that often last months. All the people we know unvaccinated, a much smaller group albeit a wide age range, are not exhibiting any of these issues. If we do get sick it is short lived and non-dramatic. At this point I am never going to get another jab of anything again. Diet, sun exposure, a healthy lifestyle, non toxic supplements and exercise are what we are going to rely on. And for those that want to take the shots, go for it. I believe in freedom, not demanding everyone do what I opt for and I’ll also live by my lifestyle choice consequences.

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denise ward's avatar

The jabs are really an IQ test. Taking them means you are being conned and it will be very dangerous for one's health or life. Gullibility is no excuse anymore - if you don't know what you're putting into your body or the body of your children, you may be ignoring serious consequences.

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shibumi's avatar

Not necessarily an IQ test, since I know a few people who are on the left side of the bell curve who said no.

More like a conformity/ trust test.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Right, it is not exactly an IQ test, it is a critical thinking test.

Low IQ people who got scammed a few times can recognize a con more easily than a PhD with an insular lifestyle

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JO's avatar

I would also argue that those who took the vaccine and have changed their minds should also be applauded. It takes just as much courage to admit that you made the wrong decision as it does to be right from the beginning. There is so much pressure to continue extolling the virtues of the covid vaccines. I think it is the wrong decision and unfair to point toward everybody who has taken the vaccine as being of lower IQ or lacking critical thinking. Everyone had their own reasons to take the vaccine. Let's not assume that they were all of the brainwashed variety. If you do, then it shuts people out. We want to grow this group, not ridicule those who took a different path to get here.

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Doug's avatar

You can have critical thinking skills and any IQ and still take the vaccine, e.g. "yeah, I don't want to take this, but I also don't want to infect a loved one or a neighbor and them end up dying." If you had no AE with the first and don't know anyone else who did either, you might take it again.

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I agree that there are many, many people who fit this category. I work in a very liberal city so I see that complete lack of empathy in many people around me. However, I generally don't like blanket statements about groups of people. I am a critical thinker and have a high IQ, but took one dose of vaccine for two reasons: 1) to try to protect a vulnerable member of my family, and 2) I could see the mandates coming up at my job.

Because of reason #1, I am the sole bread winner in our family, which means that I need to keep my job for health insurance and to pay the bills. It is not a trivial decision to quit a job I've had for nearly 20 years just to protest a vaccine. I never trusted the mRNA technology, so I decided to get the J&J vaccine since it was based on older methods. It was a rational decision that balanced risks as best I could while still providing for my family. Unfortunately, I still got burned though because my vaccine came from one of the J&J hot lots, which left me with a life changing adverse reaction.

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Paris's avatar

They care about 1/6 or the "MAGA hat people." No fan of Trump, but what do folks think HE did that was fascist? Did they not witness what went down in the last year? (Mandates, firings, othering, masks, barring from restaurants, censorship, etc)

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Critical thinking in schools has been under attack for decades.

Also, "the be kind/no bully" movement is making kids grow up without a sense of danger.

Young people are supposed to be rebellious against ANYTHING authoritative, but a lot of them gleefully got jabbed.

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Betsy McDonel Herr, Ph.D.'s avatar

The selection pressure taking place with ongoing vaccination is something to ponder. True believers are the sacrificed not the resisters. This sampling without replacement will begin to shape the population in a different direction over the next few years. It is astonishing.

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EO 9066's avatar

I remember that graph! One axis was education level and the other was vaccine hesitancy!

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Ted's avatar

Your observation is readily verified, Igor.

It seems to me that a plausible theory explaining this, is that pattern recognition is influenced by sophistry. Lower I.Q. people often immunize themselves to sophistry when their innate vulnerability to it produces a series of harmful outcomes. They may be more vulnerable to the former portion of "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me," but in many cases, that first foolishness inculcates an obduracy that acts as a sort of informational "bug repellent."

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Patty's avatar

Very insightful huh, as I think I may be one of those types. I dunno. Or just your average skeptical New Yorker. Skepticism doesn't imply pessimism btw. :-)

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Dr Linda's avatar

I decided in 6th grade (many, many years ago) conformity was for the weak of mind snd spirit.

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Former UK resident's avatar

It's a real life Milgram's experiment.

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shibumi's avatar

Really interesting article that tackles Mass Formation Psychosis:

https://consentfactory.org/2022/09/11/mass-formation-hypnosis-disorder/

I bought into mass formation for a while, but this is the second incredibly persuasive article that says "no, really, it's people buckling under to totalitarianism." Go along to get along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7eiXDNZhM

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Amy144's avatar

Re the first link. This a huge misunderstanding of Desmet's idea. I've heard him speak and he never said or implied that there hasn't been coercion, lies, or a plan. He's explaining WHY some find themselves unable to question the narrative or see through the lies and coercion.

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shibumi's avatar

Well, the argument I've heard is that what Desmet says in interviews is actually different than what Desmet says in his book. FWIW.

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Former UK resident's avatar

I think it's the combination of both. You can't control people unless they are willing to be controlled - consciously or unconsciously.

Like you need two actors a hero and a villain in a movie.

I must say these days many people behave like a walking robot or zombie, so it must have been easy to generate this kind of situation.

Hive mentality.

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shibumi's avatar

I know someone who could *possibly* wake up, but she doesn't want to.

"Things are just stressful, and I want to make my life as comfortable as possible and not hear about those things."

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Duchess's avatar

Like. Yes I think it is a survival strategy, deeply ingrained. It wasn't the Good Germans who went to the camps...it was the resisters and the ones who didn't fit...including gays, jews, gypsies, etc.

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shibumi's avatar

Oh, she will probably be fine. She has a significant other that she lives with that takes very good care of her. On occasion she's mentioned that he has bug out bags prepared for them, so my guess is that he is a prepper of some sort.

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Former UK resident's avatar

Aha you've already revisited the experiment. Good for you!

I always thought this kind of behaviour could be observed more easily in a cult like, closed setting.

In the covid experiment,

I suppose people allowed this to happen bc the whole world was entering an unfamiliar environment (or at least they set it up that way anyway), gripped by the fear of not knowing?

It has made me realise how institutionalised people are....

E.g. Health care professionals continue to administer the jabs knowing the jabs can harm the recipients and yet keep silent. CDC workers continue to promote the vaccines and dismiss all the concerns.

Both Resistance and resilience I believe.

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shibumi's avatar

Is it people buckling under because of the fear of not knowing or simply because people like to be seen as good people who are obedient?

As for the health officials... they are no better than many people in Germany during WWII. "I was just following orders." In the 21st century, add "my pension."

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Mathew Aldred's avatar

All good points. Former UK resident here too (now Nova Scotia).

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Koqo's avatar

Plenty of low IQ people have refused the jab, in fact it is both ends of the bell curve that are the most vaccine skeptic. Low IQ trusts their instincts, high IQ follow a set of heuristics that they've developed over time through their superior pattern recognition. It is the middle, where the masses lay who are susceptible to "trust the experts" propaganda and fear mongering. Low and high IQ are just more tolerant to following their gut and living with ambiguity.

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Jeff C's avatar

Hence the wonderfully descriptive term "midwit". There's a whole meme dedicated to this phenomena.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bell+curve+meme&kp=1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

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RE Nichols's avatar

Conformist. The kind of person my mother wanted me to be and got frustrated when I couldn't.

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Greg C's avatar

Great answer and logic. "Superior pattern recognition" love that phrase. I have that in Spades. Therefore no vaxxes of any kind since the 1950s.

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RE Nichols's avatar

My siblings are smart and practical. Good at fitting in and socially successful. Both have "good heads on their shoulders." Both fell for it. Hook, line and sinker.

I'm the crazy one who failed at life because I was too different and struggled to fit in.

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Joe's avatar

Not an IQ test, but a test of one's belief systems. ie how much does one trust in the institutions. Many areas with historical reasons to distrust leaders have had low uptake... Eastern Europe, East Germany, Africa, India, african american community etc. I've had some very positive experiences with the modern medical system, but also one particular negative one where a doc wanted to experiment on me. Ever since then I've been much more skeptical, and I feel lucky as it opened my eyes to the other side of medicine. That's why I will never hate people who decided to get the jab.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I do not hate the people who took the jabs as I am very much a live and let live person. I am very sorry for those that were put in situations in which they felt they had no choice. I have a good friend that had to get the jabs to see her dying father back in her home country. I thought that it was absurd then but for such a case there are no words to convey my disgust and anger especially as this was forced upon many other people. However, there are many who took the jabs because they are incapable of any critical thinking and to make matter worse, they will NOT leave you in peace. For that group I have nothing but disdain and the less I have to interact with them, the better.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I do not think that IQ is the most accurate way to describe it. In my opinion (based on anecdotal evidence) the common trait of those who said no to jabs is a reluctance to trust without question whatever is peddled by everyone around them. If one lacks that capacity to ask basic questions then I would argue that one gets into strife real quick. What I found disturbing was the willingness of so many people to accept absurd statements and restrictions that went against EVERYTHING that they knew (masking, 6ft separation, only the jabs give you immunity and so on). If this was an experiment to determine how gullible are the masses in such setups like the scamdemic, I would say that the results have been devastating - just not in a good way.

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denise ward's avatar

I wholeheartedly agree. It definitely was that. But isn't it the same as determining intelligence? I mean if you have all the education in the world but still don't ask the most basic questions, is that intelligent? It simply doesn't meet the criteria of intelligent. It also leaves a person so open to abuse. They are being reamed from behind but their hubris is too proud and biased to listen to content from people who don't have "credentials". Plus they totally believe that the media reports accurately, this too is behind their thinking. Just ignorance really. But we have allowed ignorance to be valued at the same equivalence as intelligence. Ignorance needs to be questioned as close to its utterance as possible, if we are to avert a world that goes tragically towards utter wreckage.

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CMCM's avatar

I don't know that it has so much to do with intelligence or lack thereof. I do know people who I had thought were highly intelligent, yet they became like the Stepford Wives with their unquestioning acceptance of everything. Perhaps the key is "unquestioning". There appear to be people who just don't question much of anything. And that also seems to be accompanied by not having even a smidgen of skepticism where needed.

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denise ward's avatar

You got it! If intelligence is to have any meaning at all, surely it means one's ability to know when they're being scammed. Education people are not necessarily intelligent and this is where we need to be discerning. Intelligence to me is to be able to think holistically. If anything, specialization go in the opposite direction to intelligent and so does believing in law. So really what we have is everyone under an illusion - that somehow things written on paper have more significance than reality. It's like worshiping the manuscript and completely bypassing any appreciation of the music. What is your definition of intelligence?

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I have heard of people back in my former country who did not take the jabs and to put in a blunt way, were not considered to be very bright (failed school because they just did not have the capacity pass it). Yet, they said no to the jabs and good for them. They showed more common sense than university educated people. Maybe common sense is what has been lacking.

As far as ignorance goes, yes, it is "valued" in West when it should be ridiculed. The ignorance I have seen when it comes to money is astounding as it is commonly coupled with a trust that makes it incomprehensible. I saw far too many examples in which someone earns a lot of money and all his financial dealings are handled by "advisors" and lawyers. I may not be able to explain how the stock market will run on a daily basis BUT to give away power of attorney especially in financial matters is begging for troubles. I cannot recall which well known singer got swindled but the guy basically said something along that "There were too many documents to sign and I did not read them anyway so I got the lawyer to handle that." The lawyer spent all his money and then ran away. To me that is ignorance and lack of BASIC common sense.

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Duchess's avatar

OMG the ignorance about money in the US is ASTONISHING. I just found out

a friend of mine, 68 years old, has no clue about mortgages...has always rented. Is a certified teacher and nurse. She didn't think a fully paid for house without a mortgage could be sold.

Mouth on floor.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Umm, that is almost impossible to believe. Almost. However, given that all but one of the bank managers that I talked to about a mortgage had to use a calculator to do the calculations that I could do in my head and that I have seen many people confess that they have no mathematical skills (why would anyone think that is funny or even remotely worthy of bragging about?) that is entirely plausible. I never thought I would say this but I am grateful to the communist education I got for 8.5 years as it gave a science and critical thinking foundation that is clearly lacking in the Western schools.

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denise ward's avatar

I love reading your comment. The ones with advanced education have been thoroughly brainwashed. They hold a hubris about themselves that they would have learned about vaccines, chemtrails, etc, if it were true. They hold authority over them - as you said - ultra big mistake. Soon that mistake is going to start showing major signs. Cause and effect will make people get some sense. It's well overdue.

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Duchess's avatar

Maybe intelligence should be called in this case, not IQ, but street smarts.

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RE Nichols's avatar

Not sure. I am short on street smarts. But I'm good at recognizing patterns and seeing subliminal messages others miss. No one else in my circle caught on to the creepy phrases everywhere. "New normal." "We're in this together." "Wash your hands." "Stay home; save lives." "Stay six feet apart." "Wear your mask." I noticed these EVERYWHERE. It drove me nuts.

My family rolled their eyes when I mentioned this. They didn't notice or see what the big deal was.

It scared me and made me question my own sanity. My brother got sick of my questions. He called me selfish in a text and accused me of endangering Mom and Dad. All for asking questions he didn't like.

Still traumatized and lonely.

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Duchess's avatar

But you are not alone. We are here. We saw...

My best friend whose melanoma came back with a vengeance told me last night she took the booster and the flu jab . I am havng coffee wondering if it is to early

to call and see if she is still alive. My heart is broken.

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Scampster's avatar

Completely agree! We have noticed the same thing. And I work in healthcare and see so many ailments and hospitalizations which seem to have increased. Not sure if my noticing is because of my bias, but even other vaxxed co workers are noticing.

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Aimee's avatar

I’ve never had so many acquaintances dying, having strokes, heart issues, weird stuff at the same time. That’s the weird part. And they are all different ages and health levels. Something is definitely going on. But is it the vax’s? The Covid itself? Lockdown after-effects? I sure wish the CDC or FDA or doctors or big pharma cared enough to find out.

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Scampster's avatar

My guess is all of it, but likely mostly the vax. And the spike protein itself is toxic so all the potential effects of just having covid may compound issues. Seems like detoxing with good protocols if you get covid, even if mild would be prudent.

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CMCM's avatar

In my circles, there are a LOT of unvaccinated people, most of whom had covid at one time or another. Those who had it early on had a worse case than those who caught something later, but the worst of it was just a bad flu. A weird flu, many say, but they all recovered, none of that "long covid", and they're all fine. Some caught mild cases of what was probably Omicron (or a flu) about a year after having had the initial covid. But the vaccinated I'm aware of have had a lot of problems. Not all of them, but a great many.

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Scampster's avatar

Same here, although a lot of us unvaxxed still haven't gotten even a cold! (And I work in healthcare). Go team!

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John's avatar

If it was 'covid' itself, whatever that is supposed to mean then the weird stuff should have been happening before 'the vaccine' in 2020.

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John Raymond's avatar

I get sniffles for 18 hours. Migraines after arguing with people. No other health issues

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I experience vomiting while watching CNN, might be Long Covid

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Dr Linda's avatar

I started biting my nails again and indigestion. : )

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Mathew Aldred's avatar

Yes, I'm allergic to even a few seconds of Trudeau. Long Covid?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Consequence of global warming I would say

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Mathew Aldred's avatar

You're right, I forgot we had moved on to global warming already.

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chiminin's avatar

Nah, you also don't need to blame Long Covid for not being able to stomach Trudeau. It comes naturally to most intellectually advanced individuals.

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chiminin's avatar

Ha! I suffer of same affliction when it comes to CNN... however, I know for a fact that Long Covid has nothing to do with it.

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John Raymond's avatar

I award you STARKS POST OF WEEK

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCTfxOrX4k8

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denise ward's avatar

I still don't know what you mean. You're very economical with words hey.

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John Raymond's avatar

Stream of consciousness, sort of. Except I am hardly recover consciouss.

I have pissed of pissed of many, sometimes on purpose, but sometimes I assume you should know what I'm thinking.

It's caused problems! Add no editing, bad.

Anyway, discussion was about unvaxxed being healthy.

I was trying to say, I rarely get sick.

Sorry for bad writing. Except i ain't changing.😎

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denise ward's avatar

Well your communication skills leave a lot to be desired. If you want to remain woeful of course that's your prerogative but if you want people to read your stuff, I would imagine you would put a bit of effort. You see you're getting good writing here but we're not getting the same back. Your hubris precedes you.

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John Raymond's avatar

😎 what can I say, you're basically right😎

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John Raymond's avatar

I just try to get great apostasy, deathvax etc out there... 1 in 10k even look at it...

Throw out tiny questions, provocative.. I'm looking for a curious person to ask...

I'm doing different things than what others are... You're right.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Nor should you change

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John Raymond's avatar

Dr Linda! I'm screenshotting this!

This person corrected me I don't know how many times on use of grammar, nouns.

I agreed, to extent I could...

It was like my mom.. I took sats, 62, been thru it... I want to work with horses , dogs...idc

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Janet's avatar

I see no reason to get any in the future. Friend got shingles shots snd still got shingles. (Jabbed of course). Same for flu jabs. I’ve had 2 maybe in my long life last flu in 1998.

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shibumi's avatar

So, my BIL is vaxx injured. Got shingles. Turned into neuropathy. Is waiting for his doc to give him the OK for his shingles vaxx.

His wife (has a masters degree) is waiting for her doctor to give her the OK for the next C0VID booster.

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Janet's avatar

No words. What’s going on is very creepy at this point. My hubby had shingles and then got the shingles shots. He had the JNJ but will get no more. Something seeped in thankfully.

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EO 9066's avatar

I don't know if there is any way for you to convince him to find a vx injury specialist but that is exactly what happened to a family friend. Once it progressed to neuropathy (after her damn booster) she went downhill fast and was diagnosed with leukemia and may very well had breast cancer. She suffered horribly.

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shibumi's avatar

There is another tragic part of this story that I have not told: their 38 year old son had recurring problems with heroin use, which caused some heart issues he didn't tell anyone about it. Last summer, five days after the Pfizer shot that was required for his job, he died of a heart attack. They, of course, blame the heroin, not the vaxx, although no heroin was found in his system at the time. The father (shingles/neuropathy) is incredibly depressed and not coping at all. He has gone downhill in the past year, and is incredibly resistant to any help. Worse yet, they are in a very rural area, so in Normal Times there are limited doctor choices. It's breaking our hearts.

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EO 9066's avatar

Terrible. I am so sorry.

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

They are openly talking of using mRNA tech in flu jabs, and you could possibly get one without your knowledge if you're not careful.

I'm passing on those as well from now on.

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shibumi's avatar

They are testing mRNA for flu, shingles and pneumonia right now. The person I know who works for Pfizer is managing some of those trials now.

Only good news is that they are back on the 7-10 year development schedule.

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JustANobody's avatar

Stay far away, very far away from all of it!

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JustANobody's avatar

So they say. Do Not Trust!

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JustANobody's avatar

Yes I very much remember.

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Janet's avatar

Exactly. Not ever.

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

Perfectly said! How we live our lives as well! No jabs but good nutrient dense foods, plenty of sunshine, love and plenty of exercise. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

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Former UK resident's avatar

I have an unjabbed strict vegetarian friend who got infected with the cvd. She lives in sunshine island Okinawa and is supposed to be healthy and mindful.

I am also an unjabbed veggie living in densely populated+air polluted Tokyo and I haven't had the (obvious) symptoms.

There's nothing wrong with leading a healthy lifestyle but there seems like something else, X factor attached to this infection?

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EO 9066's avatar

What kind of eye issues? Any detached retinas?

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Athena's avatar

Yes! Horribly happened to spouse and also to a friend

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EO 9066's avatar

Oh no. This happened to a friend as well! He is on surgery number 2 as the first one did not successfully re-attach the retina.

He is planning on taking a flight to Europe and I am concerned about the pressure etc.

Are your spouse and friend on blood thinners/statins/maravorac?

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Athena's avatar

Flying exacerbated for spouse! Required 4 emergency surgeries. Yes on statins for spouse. I don't have information about my friend's medical history beyond the retinal detachments came within a couple of weeks after their 2nd shot. Neither of them had any eye problems before and had recent eye checkups. Both wore contacts. Age range 50s. I've seen other people mention retinal detachments on threads and there was a "case study" documenting after Moderna vax.

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123abceng's avatar

That wasn't my case, Alice. Unvaccinated, got 2 infections, the second was a long version. All the vitamins and elements + physical activity - I was running by Appalachian scenic trial 6 miles among trees bushes and rocks, traversing by 1500 fit 2 times. He he. Now everything is gone.

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Mike M's avatar

See Geert Vanden Boosche. He answered this question almost two years ago. His answer was not good.

Mike

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Geert made an incredible PREDICTION; what the article that I described gave us was a CONFIRMATION.

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Mark's avatar

Yes it is Igor,I have just read it.Thank You! Along with many if not all of your other posts. I hope folks wake up..Keep up the brilliant work

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Mark's avatar

It was Geert;s first letter to the world which woke me up ,from the pit of despond just before the rollout of these jabs, I immediately looked at the ingredients and found I was allergic to a few of them. And different country's gave different ingredients.

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Amy's avatar

he was an early shooting star! i'm so thankful i heard his warnings long before the roll out. so logical.

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Snipelee's avatar

The mRNA shots are designed to erase natural immunity so that Big Pharma can sell endless "vaccines" for every disease imaginable. Formerly protected people are now susceptible to formerly eradicated diseases.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

That is one explanation - Microsoft like "health care". You need to be jabbed regularly to be "healthy". Sadly people are THAT STUPID that they go along with it and make the life of those pointing out the obvious miserable.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

Or we can point out the obvious and make their lives miserable! 😉

Everytime my "injected" friends bring up the vaxx, I just say - there is no coronavirus vaccine.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I am a lot more blunt - I call the mask a clear sign that the person is stupid and delusional.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

😉

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John Sbrochi's avatar

THIS

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JustANobody's avatar

Short and Sweet! Absolutely the most perfect answer!

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TnDoc's avatar

IMO, after a couple of years pondering this madness, I think that this is a Microsoft Windows approach to medicine. Kill off the innate immune system and replace it with new "immune" system that requires infinite and constant "software" updates... Forever! Bill Gates must be orgasmic.

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Bird's avatar

Subscription models replacing ownership models

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Ann K.'s avatar

And you will be happy.

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TnDoc's avatar

...and. free!

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Duchess's avatar

No, the next is : and you will own nothing.

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TnDoc's avatar

Yes!

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John Sbrochi's avatar

You KNOW Bill Gates loves a product you have to keep buying again and again and again.

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JC's avatar

Bill AND Melinda. I can never unsee that video of the TWO of them laughing about people not being able to ignore the next pandemic that was coming. Nor forget the photos of her in the Wuhan lab.

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TnDoc's avatar

An odious pair, for certain.

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RE Nichols's avatar

Why did Melinda leave? Of course odious people often can't stand each other.

The Clintons probably stay together from mutual fear of blackmail.

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JC's avatar

Tax purposes? Did she really leave? Or did they split to ensure one would remain out of jail if 'it' all went wrong for them?

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TnDoc's avatar

Absolutely. And, they bypass the patient completely by using the Ruling Fascsts in the West to force adoption, injection, and wealth extraction (free of all liability) from all of the peasants. It is beautiful.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

It makes one wonder who came up with the idea of getting the "customers" to be "addicted in some fashion". Some of the scandals with opioids I think predate the Windows "experience". As far as Bill is concerned, he is probably very, very disappointed with the jabs. The whole experience has made lots of people very determined to avoid any other jabs. However, like all psychos, failure is a rehearsal for success - he is probably cooking up something even more horrible by now.

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Lipidnano-doodle's avatar

Bill gates also mentioned reducing the population via healthcare and vaccines.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

PERFECT analogy! Bravo!!

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RE Nichols's avatar

Bill Gates is jealous of God. One explanation for his behaviors.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

Love that!!

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Johnson P. Dilz, Esq.'s avatar

Every day something comes out where I’m like, “oh yeah, that seems to fit the ‘worst case scenario’ we hoped wouldn’t happen.”

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Nancy P -Cheryls Legacy's avatar

True. Hoped wouldn’t but knew would and now is.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I call it a polio injection, a covid injection, a flu injection. It makes it simpler to understand. Unseated, yes.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

Injections. YES! I keep forcing myself to use this word. Losing battle to use the enemy's (false) language.

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Northern Gardener's avatar

Synthetic experimental liability-free mRNA permanent poison protein rewrite.

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Kat Bro's avatar

True! I’ve never had the flu until I was mandated a flu shot. F&ck. This is madness and most ppl are on board!

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

we only need 12 % to bee OFF board, bored...think we got it...best Kat Bro

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Yeah, they're sure as hell not "vaccines," but they changed the definition of "vaccine" as well to confuse the sheep.

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

It's a fucking kill-witch that turns the immune system against itself.

It's a fucking bio-warfare KILL-SHOT.

The sheep keep lining up for the boosters which keep replicating the spike fuckery.

Are there ANY grown-ups to stop this madness??????????

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CMCM's avatar

Are there any grown-ups, you ask? Apparently not enough to do anything meaningful, sad to say.

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

Right? It's nauseating. My center of gravity is grappling with my center of sanity.

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shibumi's avatar

There's some interesting comments on this article:

https://nonvenipacem.com/2022/09/10/new-york-declares-state-of-emergency-over-polio-to-boost-vaccination-rates/

FYI, ONE person in NY got polio. ONE. To me, this just sounds like another "ramp up the fear" campaign. Plus... they also state that if you've had ONE polio vaxx, you must get another THREE asap. Plus... kids get FOUR polio vaxxes before age six?

None of this sounds sensible to me. It sounds like it's a new "vaxxine scam" that ends with more people dead.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Your question is a good one. You are right to be suspicious. They are either hiding something, or alternatively they are whipping up false fear. But starting a fear campaign in just one city or state is counterintuitive. So they might be hiding something about polio.

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Charlotte's avatar

I'm wondering if the polio was introduced by refugees from Afghanistan that weren't properly vetted. Just like the 10 year old girl who needed to cross state lines for an abortion after being raped by an illegal alien and it turned out she was here also illegally and that the woman taking care of her was most likely not blood related (hence it was probably child trafficking). The politicians always want to hide the real issue behind the problem, because they are inevitably the ones responsible for it happening.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Whoever brought the polio VACCINE virus was not doing it on purpose!

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Charlotte's avatar

Quite right! But maybe they give out the live virus version at large refuge camps before they are brought to the US? That would explain how it's in the water system. Hochul would use those samples as another "mini-catastrophe" to politicize fear - instead of admitting it could be from recent refugees. I live 6 minutes from an airport in Westchester where immigrants fly in 3 times a week in the middle of the night and the authorities don't want reporters reporting on it. It's a big issue for the election in November. Just spitballing.

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Carlos Garcia's avatar

But attenuated live is just a misnomer for lab made, untested and able to replicate.

They also seem to know more of inactivated jab viruses recombining themselves from fragments and becoming replication competent again, and they are not telling us.

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shibumi's avatar

In the late 90's, my Mom did teacher aid work in the local school district; this was well before any refugee issues. At one point, they had a child in from somewhere in the third world (Africa maybe? I don't remember) and the district admitted that he had not been screened for any diseases or even had any of the normal childhood vaxxines. Their priority was not public health, it was getting him into the classroom.

This has been going on for a while.

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shibumi's avatar

Well... they can be hiding something AND whipping up false fear.

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Ann K.'s avatar

Just in time for the midterm elections

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Duchess's avatar

They are hiding that it is Vaccine induced polio...from the leaky shots that can infect others they use in most countries outside the US. The suspicion is that because so many people are "injected" with the Covid shot, that their immune systems cannot fight off ANYTHING, leaving them susceptible to a polio outbreak.

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Zade's avatar

But wait, what happened to monkeypox??

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shibumi's avatar

It was replaced. Like the second Darrin in Betwitched.

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EO 9066's avatar

lol

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Polio was already burning out by the time (((Salk))) "developed" his jab.

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Carlos Garcia's avatar

Not many polio tests are available now so we don't really know.

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Yakima Peach's avatar

I'm betting that's the cause. These shots are so horrible. This seems like the beginning of the biblical plagues that kill off many. They are planning to force these mRNA shots on us again when you look at the new "factory" in Australia to produce these deadly injections. Stay strong dear people.

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denise ward's avatar

People can always say no. It's still a free will universe.

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John Raymond's avatar

Some have been pinned down.

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denise ward's avatar

To get the jab? You're very cryptic.

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John Raymond's avatar

Yes. Disabled folks, by Sheriff in California. One was crying. Sheriff thought he was being an angel. Bastard

Girls forced vaxxed, crying.

Absolutely horrible to see, remember. I'm sure others.

We're dealing with criminals

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Cassandra's Box's avatar

There was also that care home video

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ghMXXNVpNftu/

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Mom in Florida's avatar

What? You witnessed this?

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John Raymond's avatar

No. Videos. Probably bitchute, but it was videos. Probably 2021.

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John Raymond's avatar

It still bothers me, Teresa

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John Raymond's avatar

Cryptic is kind. Lazy more truthful

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Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

It would be interesting to know the covid vax status of the new polio cases. That could be a big tell.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

It's NYC. Odds are HIGH they're all INJECTED.

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MoodyP's avatar

I think this is but one of the items in the basket of goodies we have coming our way in the next 1-45 days as the cabal unveils their plan to cancel the election, or alternatively force all mail in ballots. Most of us here have the ability to see over the next hill. We know it’s coming. We just don’t know what it is. But it’s coming.

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Aaron Ferguson's avatar

I suspect you’re correct. I hope people will demand in person voting, but I don’t know what that may look like. Let’s hope there are enough....

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Mark's avatar

They know that they can rig the mail ballots, We have evidence that the UK government did so in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum,

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Andrew Dickson's avatar

Yes, absolutely nothing these people wouldn't do to retain, or expand, their power if they think they'll get away with it.

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MoodyP's avatar

Yep. And so far they have.

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pat hollingworth's avatar

It is in the covid vac I believe - I think these shots are dangerous, intent is to destroy natural immunity and then the body will react to anything and everything they “ secretly” put in this poison - that is my opinion - nothing but nothing beats natural immunity and the children who have taken this are now going to spread all sorts of things among themselves and all the other vaccinated people - it will be a vicious cycle of disease after disease

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kertch's avatar

How does Covid vaccine disable immune systems?

How about Antibody Induced Enhancement or Antibody Dependent Enhancement for starters. A number of top epidemiologists predicted it would happen with the VERY suboptimal Covid vaccine.

From Wikipedia: "Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), sometimes less precisely called immune enhancement or disease enhancement, is a phenomenon in which binding of a virus to suboptimal antibodies enhances its entry into host cells, followed by its replication.[1][2] The suboptimal antibodies can result from natural infection or from vaccination. ADE may cause enhanced respiratory disease, but is not limited to respiratory disease.[3] It has been observed in HIV, RSV virus and Dengue virus and is monitored for in vaccine development.[4]"

I'm surprised this entry hasn't been removed or edited yet. The Covid vaccine was DESIGNED to produce suboptimal antibodies. The ever-mutating and toxic spike protein is about the worst viral protein to develop an antibody for, as it will have little positive effect.

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Andrew Dickson's avatar

Yes, DESIGNED. I can't see how to believe this was unintentional. You can't have been making vaccines for years and years and not know about this.

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

It doesn't DISABLE.

It CORRUPTS which is better for the jab pushers because it's a slow, not so obvious kill.

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Ely's avatar

Have they been testing New York waste water for polio virus prior to Covid? In other words, because there was one case of polio and because the virus was found in waste water, are we to assume that the two are related? If so, why aren’t there more cases of polio?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Great question. There are more questions to ask also.

The inactivated polio vaccine used in the USA protects against polio virus in blood, but not so well against same in the gut. This is the reason why we see what's happening.

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Brian Mowrey's avatar

...I was going to reply to the main thread to say the same thing. This was only a matter of time as Americans born in the last two decades weren't given real, mucosal immunity to polio. Also, the only case of paralysis to date is an apparent vaccine-free-community-member so I doubt he was Covid-vaxxed.

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Ray's avatar

you should read my answer ely, it makes more sense than a virus

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Ely's avatar

Where is your answer Ray?

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Ray's avatar

it should be at the top of the comments

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