They already do this in America on the down-low without parental consent. I have a child with spins bifida. Me and the other mom have stories of being denied needed care because the doctors feel our children don’t have a high quality of life. Too many deadly medical errors by these same doctors. I was told by a nurse to take my child and run. My baby was diagnosed as terminal but she just turned 5 and she’s doing great because I fought to get her the care she needed.
In Grad School, I met a young 30’s? woman in a wheelchair with Spina Bifida who had survived multiple surgeries. She chose life. She had more to offer than most people. Who gets to define our age, health, class, sex, religion, political leanings, income, etc.as a measurement of if we should continue to live? The largest use of taxpayer funds is probably Corporate Welfare and crooked Politicians.
First I am sorry for what is happening to your innocent little kiddo and it is terrific to hear she is thriving despite so many headwinds in her life. Oh the power of love and advocacy!
They try to off older folks too. Hospice - no matter the good they do, they also supply lots of morphine and when you ask how much to give person they say "It doesn't matter". I tell you that is a slap in the face and very stressful to the caregiver. Our system is broke and the casual way we treat all human life is a terrible sign of society gone wrong. Sanctity of life is degraded. Canada is now an advocate for barely bridled wickedness.
My grown daughter Joy calls U.S. healthcare "NOThealthcare." When COVID-19 and the quackcines were raging hospitals were more like morgues. Sadly, too many went into them and never came out! 😡
And people with co-morbidities. If someone has a comorbidity, that shifts liability to the patient and therefore, it's not a threat to their bottom line to give them shitty medical care. I have seen it...they are extra sloppy & negligent with patients that require extra care & attention.
NO ... not "They try to off older folks too", THEY ARE AND HAVE KILLED THE OLD and not just in hospices; but in hospitals to. I had it with my Mum on New YEars Day (of all days hey ?)... (CAN ONLY TALK OF UK) ... she was tested, all the normal stuff for kidney problems and excess amounts of water in her legs ... AFTER 1 WEEK of different drugs that failed; they tried this other drug by drip .... WOW - an immediate recovery. WAIT !!....
My Dad went in one morning and the drip was turned OFF ... blah blah, he argued .. "oh sorry, we made a mistake"; they replied" ... but he ended up agreeing to "end of life care" ... 2 days until I could ****ing get a flight back and drag my Mum out of hospital. I had even told both my Father and sister what would happen... withproof.
In the UK they killed 43 K elderly people in hospitals, care homes and hospices.. but blamed it on "Covid"; which of course got the masses to get their jabs.
We are fighting on the same side Bob. I, as many people here, have lost family and will lose family (and friends) due to COVID or the jab. You started by replying "NO", which implies you do not agree. I was merely telling you that I believed we are on the same page. Chatting on a board can be difficult. I'll admit I didn't watch the youtube videos. I feel like I have a pretty good understanding about globalism, the UN and WEF, but I appreciate your offering them up since I am not the only reader. I wish the best to you and your family and hope you one day get justice and peace.
I lost a very dear friend this year, with spina bifida. ( And yes, he was jabbed and I believe that led to his deterioration into organ failures and much more- he had very muscular arms from wheeling his wheelchair ( and doing tricks in it!- but after a suspected stroke he couldn't wheel himself any more so was stuck indoors more). He was 55 and when he was born ( a twin, and born with the severest form of the condition, had withered legs and hydrocephalus, needing several ops as a child and some later on- he even had to lie flat for nearly a year on his front, and he never, ever complained), his parents were told that he would not survive, they gave him only days or weeks to live. He was one of the gentlest people I knew, tons of friends, in school and as an adult, out and about all the time, did ever so many courses ( arty ones like cake decorating, jewellery making) and was even a qualified childcarer with the NVQ qualification i believe. We all miss him so much. But the condition did not kill him. Doctors were completely wrong when they predicted his lifespan, as wrong as they could be. As were they when they called those jabs safe for him. RIP CS, sorely missed.
Wow, Just imagine! The dear soul was blessed to live for 55 years! How very nice that is, compared with the dark alternative presented! These health-careless workers and associations are brutally cold-hearted. Being a believer in the Resurrection of Christ, I also trust fully that there will be beautiful souls, such as your friend, brought up from their graves, and will embrace eternity (at the First Resurrection), when the King and all of Heaven returns with Him in unspeakable Glory. Someday soon! But for those who propagated evil, there will be "Judgement" applied for the severity of their punishment in accord with the pain and suffering they caused.
Whenever it is appropriate, and that's most all the time, it becomes a pleasure to revisit the promises of our God, who makes no errors in judging. And as Biblical, historical accounts set forth, we are assured that Jesus has the most beneficent, benevolent heart in the universe, leaning heavily toward the afflicted, abused, disregarded, and disabled souls. For that reason, ALL persons should be given the chance for "LIFE" eternal through Christ, our Creator; not to be cut short. He will cure every malady and restore perfect health and happiness to every trusting soul, regardless of their physical condition. Like this world, the condition of those compromised souls is but temporary! And that's the BEST news ever!
Stay in prayer, and do the things that are right, and all will be glorious someday soon!
See, that´s why I never go to the doctor, no matter down here in tropically volcanic Nicaragua all the doctors are real revolutionary commies, enemies to their capitalistic counterparts. Doctors are killers everywhere, make no mistake!
He told the USA to shove the pfizer and moderna jabs and although hegot some jabs in from Russia and China he didn't play follow the yankee and coerce people to take them.
Wow! Your child is so lucky to have you - congratulations! I have a cousin who has cognitive issues and is now in a sheltered home, happy in her 60s. She lived with her parents and siblings for many years. We were blessed to have her amongst us at family gatherings, and she loved to ask us all how we were going. Her memory for names is amazing!
Be relieved that you were not the only one who interpreted it that way. But at least in this case the misunserstanding has been cleared up relatively quickly.
Also of note, if your baby gets diagnosed with something like Spina Bifida from an ultrasound you will be referred to the specialist that will be in charge of your baby’s case. And likely in this consultation they will try to bully you into getting an abortion, use the phrase “incompatible with life” and grossly exaggerate the outlook. That is why most abort and many of those that don’t feel guilty about not aborting. I’ve met many mothers in the NICU who were expecting very bad cases and happily walked away with a mostly healthy baby a few days later because it was actually a mild case.
We didn’t find out about the SB until after birth. Later on the palliative care team kept coming around. In one meeting where I was trying to get the doctors to do the surgery she needed (I ended up getting a 2nd opinion from a different hospital) and they were lying to me that it wouldn’t help and the palliative care guy kept interrupting to tell us that we could take her home and let her die. I had to tell him to shut up.
That’s a misconception. The surgery may or may not help, we are unsure about that. Some get the surgery, some aren’t candidates. It may make symptoms less severe, not sure. At birth or in utero the doctors repair the back, try to put the nerves back in the spine and close the hole. But all the other issues that come with SB are still there.
This is a recurring story. Doctors give mothers the worst outcomes in all cases when they see a malformation of any kind. I thank the Lord I did not have an ultrasound. What Canada is doing is called murder!
Well look at what it did to babies with Down Syndrome. Those numbers are now practically nonexistent anymore. Women talked into eliminating their child because they aren’t perfect….given worst case scenarios. What happened to First Do No Harm?
Yes, the over use of US is concerning for MANY reasons. The interference of doctors in childbirth is overwhelming. I believe it’s all part of the cabal to reduce population.
In California & some other states we have “Death with Dignity.” So if you have a terminal illness & a diagnosis of 6 months or less you can get medication to end your life. My ex husband actually did this. It was horrible & very expensive. If you don’t think this is also about the money you are wrong. The medication is $5,000.00. If you want a Dr. to administer it, it’s another $3,000.00. When you have hospice available, who can make you comfortable & you can die naturally ( my mother & husband both went through this) it’s emotionally better for everyone concerned. Losing a loved one is devastating enough without a suicide! This assisted suicide is a devastating horrific experience. You never get over seeing it. Personally, having lived through it, I think it should be outlawed. We are losing our humanity & our souls.
It is a good thing to hear about having to witness a person going thru assisted suicide. People never talk about it. My mom wanted to do it. She was not in pain, but did not want to go thru the natural progression to death. It was probably the most painful thing during her illness coming to grips that my mom wanted to off herself so casually. And it WAS casual. Luckily, before we could get her to Oregon she died a peaceful death, with me and my husband by her side, loving and caring for her to the end. People think they are doing their family a service to off themselves. Utterly untrue. My dad died a slower and more painful death, but the slow wind down gave him a chance to settle his life and bravely face his end. He knew suicide was the cowardly selfish way. It always is. ALWAYS. I know that will get pushback. But your end is not yours to decide.
Even hospice, the American version, can be very murderous. Hospice murdered my mother, overdosing her aggressively on morphine. She was in late stage COPD but didn't believe me when I told her they would try to shove morphine, Haldol and Ativan into her. Three days after those bastards got her in their care, she was dead. I didn't have power of attorney, but if I had, I would not have allowed those filthy hyenas anywhere near her.
In the UK, hospice has a different orientation, being directed at comforting, not murder of the patient.
UK has murdered thousands with Midazolam. Hancock used two years supply in a six month period in 2021. They were placing DNRs on anybody with a disability, or elderly. One mother reported her deaf teenage son had a DNR notice.
Before the scamdemic they were also killing the elderly, a private individual had investigated for years. He had a dossier and was found murdered in his flat (about two years ago). I can't remember his name but a bit if searching any interested will find it.
The founder of hospice in UK had a different ethic than the founder of US hospice. Her idea was not to hasten death but to provide comfort. In the US hospice always had the notion that death is better than " low quality of life". Are there abuses in the UK? Of course, but nothing like the murder machine that is US hospice. It's become a lucrative racket in the US. The doctor overseeing the hospice that murdered my mother had been disciplined for signing DNRs en masse and in advance to be used on patients that he never examined.
This is a VERY individual choice. My sister-in-law took this path. Terminal cancer and even heavy pain meds weren't working much at all. I admired her courage, and here passing was very peaceful. I am comforted knowing I can take this path if I end up with a similar terminal illness.
I predicted years ago this would happen when the push to make assisted suicide/euthanasia legal. Before then many doctors would consult with patient and family and up the morphine until they died peacefully. No need for govt. intervention.
Once govt. (read big business) gets involved it morphs in to a killing machine. Look at the UK with their Pathways To Death plans and DNR notices in aged care homes.
For example in Canada recently a young women with physical disabilities complained about the lack of aid she was (not) receiving and they offered her assisted suicide as an option.
The governments are our enemies, big pharma is our enemy. The fake pandemic and clot shots proved that to us.
Unfortunately that would not get me what I wanted. I found out right before the meeting that they had a meeting before our meeting to talk about how to manipulate me. The lady from the palliative care team who was nice let it slip when I ran into her in the hall and she told me she couldn’t stay for the meeting. I also secretly recorded everything.
I know a woman who's elderly husband was admitted to hospital last year and they tried to do the same with her. She knew they wanted to kill him with their Pathways To Death (he was malnourished and dehydrated) so she was talking tactics to her husband in French (they are French) and the nurse sternly told her to "speak English". Needless to say the nurse was unceremoniously forced in to the hallway.
She finally had him discharged and he became well again.
shit is hard to believe but yeah they do this I had a close relative told to go home and die peacefully (of cancer) about 2 years before he finally died. His wife fired that oncologist and got on the injectable food instead and he was comfortable almost to the end.
We shouldn’t have to battle the establishment to keep people alive. Every life is sacred, and why should we trust those with agendas, such as anti-life ideologies or money?
Case in point: WHY give a mammogram to an 80 something YO woman with severe dementia? If they find a tumor are they going to operate and remove her boobs? They know what trauma that would be for that woman. YET many people have to fight doctors over it. Ditto for gyn appointments. Alzheimers folks do not understand that invasion. But money! Oh the pursuit of mammon.
Friends of mine had a daughter two years ago who was diagnosed through amniocentesis to have trisomy 13. They were offered termination as an option. They declined, and her first months were very touch and go, but the parents cherished every moment with their daughter knowing every day could literally be their last.
She still has some severe health issues but she is loved, and not for one second would her parents ever consider her unworthy of life.
My hubby & I never considered having an abortion. As far as we have always been concerned, you get what you get in this world. If the baby is meant to make it, it will. Our job as its parent is to nurture it as best as we can.
Sounds like your friends are good parents to their daughter :-)
We've got 3 healthy kids. Sure the first one has Asperger's (like my Mum) and my second one has borderline cerebral palsy (cord was tightly around his neck at birth but the only sign you can notice now is that occasionally he dribbles) but they're all full of beans and they're strong and physically very healthy. They're actually really great, very alive and smart kids.
But I will be honest and say that sometimes we want to give our Aspie firstborn back (!) but we know we can't so we just keep on keeping on ;-)
I have 5 kids myself, and although they don’t have any official diagnoses, there have been times I wanted do to give them back as well 😆 Everyone has their own challenges, and I wholeheartedly agree- we all do our best.
I think just about every parent of even the most "normal" of kids have certain memories of those extreme moments when against the better angels of their nature they had intrusive thoughts of eanting to "give them back". And eventually the inter-regnum horribilus passed! Hard times often transform all involved into being better people afterward.
I keep a daily journal and have most of my life. I was reviewing one from 25 years ago where I had noted that my 2 1/2 yo son had taken a big poo in his diaper and managed to scamper over to a rocking horse we had, and take a nice ride before I could stop him. That was one of those fun moments I can laugh about now. Well, I actually laughed even then.
I've only recently been made aware that the organs must be living to be useful--so there are some ethics concerns about how exactly they are harvested. Since it is a really disturbing subject, I have not yet examined this issue in more detail, but maybe other people already know more than I did and do.
Thank you for pointing this out. This is making me so sick. I'm only 40, but it's my father's generation that had their lives taken when a doctor deemed them unworthy of it. Right here. Not long ago. Just one generation between then and today.
"Do you know anyone who was born very sick and with health problems who then went on to live a productive life?"
The notion of productivity being the hallmark of life's value is the root of evil. Seeing human beings only in the context of their value to others. Classic utilitarian ideology. It's the strongest link between what happened in the past years and Nazi Germany. The wikipedia article about utilitarianism has been hijacked, making it look like some Utopian version of reality, but it's the exact opposite.
We must not quantify the value of human beings. What about the value of life itself? What about our souls?
In the good old days when uman animals where less degenerate than Today... it is very plausible that uman animals would cull the offspring if it was delivered with defect. After all Biology and Nature demands such Equilibrium.
Children can’t develop well if they, instead of the grownups, are having to carry the worries of the world on their shoulders. Your daughter should be playing with dolls or climbing trees.
So this is an interesting conversation and I'll try to answer in a way that isn't defensive; obviously it's an issue I've considered.
What took place in 2020, then through 2021, was a blight on our society for many reasons, but high in the list for me comes the acceptance from ordinary people of the exclusion, coercion and vehement hatred adopted toward their neighbors. These were things that needed to be called out. They designated a frame of mind that needed to be called out. You're reading Chudov here so I'm going to take it as read that you can trace the line between Canada's MAID program and the events during COVID. Factually, my daughter is roughly aware. Emotionally too however, there is a link, and this must be clearly stated. Children need the moral compass of the adults that surround them. When submerged in a culture in which morals have fled, truth - even if painful - can offer more hope than ignorance.
CANADA KILLS OFF ITS WEAKEST: In a move that's been called "eugenicist", people who are addicted to drugs will be eligible for medical assistance in dying (MAID) by March 2024.
The person will have to demonstrate they've tried several treatments, but nothing worked. What's next - suicide yourself if you've proven that you can't get rich?
MAID became legal in Canada in 2016. Since then, the rules around who is eligible have been relaxed several times - and rates have increased TEN FOLD to around 10,000 cases in 2021
Those people are monsters and demons. But such monsters in the medical field is not new. As far back as the 1970s, those of us in the right-to-life movement knew that "defective" babies were being quietly killed in hospitals. They didn't stop at their early search-and-destroy method of amniocentesis to find and kill the defective in the womb ... they were killing them after birth, too. Monsters and demons. And God will deal with them.
Only worse. MUCH worse. From what I have learned, God has been withdrawing His divine protection from the countries of the world, especially those whose benefits were not appreciated, but rather taken for granted; many even despised and ridiculed as folly; denying that God even exists! The same have put death before life in every respect. But His wrath kindles in a slow progression giving the people ample time to repent, by allowing disaster to follow disaster. If this does not awaken a sense of spiritual remorse, and a desire to return to God the things which are His, nothing will! USA has been identified as the beast with two horns but that...("Revelation 13:11) speaks like a dragon. Lots of speculation attached to this verse from the Babylonian churches, but an in-depth study will prove them false. USA is leading the world and will continue to do so until the bitter end.
One of the most difficult things I'm faced with, when attempting to clarify things as a whole, is whether to condense, or expound. Either avenue seems fraught with aspects which lead toward doubt.
But just as faith is not "blind" and rests upon sound evidence, so too, are the overwhelming historical facts; many of which are seen as repetitious, leading one to ponder implications set thereby.
As an example, the Twin Towers (and bldg 7) on that fateful day, all came down in perfect demo-style. A plethora of scientific evidence came forth thereafter, substantiating the nefariousness of the pre-baked narrative. But it was squashed by MSM. How in the world was this accomplished? Simple: "control." Gain control of the media, and use it as a propaganda tool. That's just ONE single factor, albeit a huge one, shaping the narrative and "cramming" it down the throats of the dumbed down masses. Many, strangely enough, "would have it so!" For those who resisted, names were assigned them.
As for the "spiritual" aspect of the scene, a similar condition prevails. Only, the motive is not power, fame, or fortune, but rather an effort to misguide souls to disobey the Creator's Commandments. Satan remains in the shadows while this takes place, but soon, very soon, he will unveil his most effective deception that he has EVER devised; to impersonate Christ Himself, sweeping into his net, the souls of mankind, who have rejected the Truth of the Word of God.
The wisest man who ever lived, said this, ("Ecclesiastes 12:13 King James Version)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
In my admitted shortcomings, there has no doubt been voids of understanding for those who desire to peer into this theme of "righteousness by faith" and how "Babylonian Churches" have affected the scene. The subject is far too extensive and deep for one such as myself to adequately expose, short of writing many hundreds of pages. But for a distinctive understanding of the "Three Angel's Messages" and that of the Fourth Angel of Rev. 18, which is the culmination of accumulated history and the warnings thereof regarding the FINAL message given to a dying world, please see this simple expose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpdCyQyU7s
Changes are coming to the spiritual landscape, and deception is a key role-player.
I have opted out of organ donation for the reason that doctors are awfully quick to suggest it when you cannot speak for yourself. I might add that no anesthesia is used when "harvesting" organs. Who knows what "brain dead" people can feel.
Hardly any active military died from or with Covid. And why did more military members die of Covid AFTER the vast majority had been vaccinated? A belated analysis of the military’s Covid numbers ….
They already do this in America on the down-low without parental consent. I have a child with spins bifida. Me and the other mom have stories of being denied needed care because the doctors feel our children don’t have a high quality of life. Too many deadly medical errors by these same doctors. I was told by a nurse to take my child and run. My baby was diagnosed as terminal but she just turned 5 and she’s doing great because I fought to get her the care she needed.
In Grad School, I met a young 30’s? woman in a wheelchair with Spina Bifida who had survived multiple surgeries. She chose life. She had more to offer than most people. Who gets to define our age, health, class, sex, religion, political leanings, income, etc.as a measurement of if we should continue to live? The largest use of taxpayer funds is probably Corporate Welfare and crooked Politicians.
First I am sorry for what is happening to your innocent little kiddo and it is terrific to hear she is thriving despite so many headwinds in her life. Oh the power of love and advocacy!
They try to off older folks too. Hospice - no matter the good they do, they also supply lots of morphine and when you ask how much to give person they say "It doesn't matter". I tell you that is a slap in the face and very stressful to the caregiver. Our system is broke and the casual way we treat all human life is a terrible sign of society gone wrong. Sanctity of life is degraded. Canada is now an advocate for barely bridled wickedness.
My grown daughter Joy calls U.S. healthcare "NOThealthcare." When COVID-19 and the quackcines were raging hospitals were more like morgues. Sadly, too many went into them and never came out! 😡
The quicker entities like Dr Green get introduced to a ‘good death ‘ the better
And people with co-morbidities. If someone has a comorbidity, that shifts liability to the patient and therefore, it's not a threat to their bottom line to give them shitty medical care. I have seen it...they are extra sloppy & negligent with patients that require extra care & attention.
NO ... not "They try to off older folks too", THEY ARE AND HAVE KILLED THE OLD and not just in hospices; but in hospitals to. I had it with my Mum on New YEars Day (of all days hey ?)... (CAN ONLY TALK OF UK) ... she was tested, all the normal stuff for kidney problems and excess amounts of water in her legs ... AFTER 1 WEEK of different drugs that failed; they tried this other drug by drip .... WOW - an immediate recovery. WAIT !!....
My Dad went in one morning and the drip was turned OFF ... blah blah, he argued .. "oh sorry, we made a mistake"; they replied" ... but he ended up agreeing to "end of life care" ... 2 days until I could ****ing get a flight back and drag my Mum out of hospital. I had even told both my Father and sister what would happen... withproof.
In the UK they killed 43 K elderly people in hospitals, care homes and hospices.. but blamed it on "Covid"; which of course got the masses to get their jabs.
Please lookup "A GOOD DEATH" ... in Greek; before you watch this video...oh here = https://medicine.missouri.edu/centers-institutes-labs/health-ethics/faq/euthanasia#:~:text=The%20word%20%E2%80%9Ceuthanasia%E2%80%9D%20itself%20comes,a%20relatively%20%E2%80%9Cgood%20death.%E2%80%9D
MATT HANCOCK WAS THE UK HEALTH SECRETARY IN CHARGE (?) OF IT ALL:
NOW PLEASE WATCH THESE (my only question is why is it on TouTube ?; unless they are mocking us).....
PS It is not Canada alone, it is the globalist parasites like the UN and WEF.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mdUc4TdswE
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
No argument from me! So true.
OH !; not even a small argument ?. Catch you next time then; lol.
We are fighting on the same side Bob. I, as many people here, have lost family and will lose family (and friends) due to COVID or the jab. You started by replying "NO", which implies you do not agree. I was merely telling you that I believed we are on the same page. Chatting on a board can be difficult. I'll admit I didn't watch the youtube videos. I feel like I have a pretty good understanding about globalism, the UN and WEF, but I appreciate your offering them up since I am not the only reader. I wish the best to you and your family and hope you one day get justice and peace.
Apologies; my fault and as for the last sentence - ditto.
Who are these fools who think they can decide what anyone else’s quality of life is.
What happened to first do no harm.
Too many small men want to be God. Defining what is and isn’t a quality life. Fools.
The medical profession is turning out ever larger groups of fools.
Good mothers are warriors and will fight any battle in the protection of their child, there is no other relationship like this.
Yes. Unfortunately not all mothers are good mothers
I lost a very dear friend this year, with spina bifida. ( And yes, he was jabbed and I believe that led to his deterioration into organ failures and much more- he had very muscular arms from wheeling his wheelchair ( and doing tricks in it!- but after a suspected stroke he couldn't wheel himself any more so was stuck indoors more). He was 55 and when he was born ( a twin, and born with the severest form of the condition, had withered legs and hydrocephalus, needing several ops as a child and some later on- he even had to lie flat for nearly a year on his front, and he never, ever complained), his parents were told that he would not survive, they gave him only days or weeks to live. He was one of the gentlest people I knew, tons of friends, in school and as an adult, out and about all the time, did ever so many courses ( arty ones like cake decorating, jewellery making) and was even a qualified childcarer with the NVQ qualification i believe. We all miss him so much. But the condition did not kill him. Doctors were completely wrong when they predicted his lifespan, as wrong as they could be. As were they when they called those jabs safe for him. RIP CS, sorely missed.
Wow, Just imagine! The dear soul was blessed to live for 55 years! How very nice that is, compared with the dark alternative presented! These health-careless workers and associations are brutally cold-hearted. Being a believer in the Resurrection of Christ, I also trust fully that there will be beautiful souls, such as your friend, brought up from their graves, and will embrace eternity (at the First Resurrection), when the King and all of Heaven returns with Him in unspeakable Glory. Someday soon! But for those who propagated evil, there will be "Judgement" applied for the severity of their punishment in accord with the pain and suffering they caused.
Whenever it is appropriate, and that's most all the time, it becomes a pleasure to revisit the promises of our God, who makes no errors in judging. And as Biblical, historical accounts set forth, we are assured that Jesus has the most beneficent, benevolent heart in the universe, leaning heavily toward the afflicted, abused, disregarded, and disabled souls. For that reason, ALL persons should be given the chance for "LIFE" eternal through Christ, our Creator; not to be cut short. He will cure every malady and restore perfect health and happiness to every trusting soul, regardless of their physical condition. Like this world, the condition of those compromised souls is but temporary! And that's the BEST news ever!
Stay in prayer, and do the things that are right, and all will be glorious someday soon!
Ray
See, that´s why I never go to the doctor, no matter down here in tropically volcanic Nicaragua all the doctors are real revolutionary commies, enemies to their capitalistic counterparts. Doctors are killers everywhere, make no mistake!
Like Che Guevara
Lefties love having his image on their T-shirts
Right? Absolute dumbshits!
At least Nicaragua never did a Covid lockdown though. Ortega definitely comes out looking better than most world leaders.
They are no leaders at all, they are just ordinary POSs/SOBs/MTFs following the Devil. Putin, Xi Jinping, and MBS are!
He told the USA to shove the pfizer and moderna jabs and although hegot some jabs in from Russia and China he didn't play follow the yankee and coerce people to take them.
BINGO!
Wow! Your child is so lucky to have you - congratulations! I have a cousin who has cognitive issues and is now in a sheltered home, happy in her 60s. She lived with her parents and siblings for many years. We were blessed to have her amongst us at family gatherings, and she loved to ask us all how we were going. Her memory for names is amazing!
...The 'other mom'? What on earth!
Sorry, the other moms with kids with Spina Bifida. I should have proof-read it.
I read it as you intended
I read that as two lesbians with a child LOL
Be relieved that you were not the only one who interpreted it that way. But at least in this case the misunserstanding has been cleared up relatively quickly.
Spina Bifida not spins bifida. Thanks autocorrect.
Also of note, if your baby gets diagnosed with something like Spina Bifida from an ultrasound you will be referred to the specialist that will be in charge of your baby’s case. And likely in this consultation they will try to bully you into getting an abortion, use the phrase “incompatible with life” and grossly exaggerate the outlook. That is why most abort and many of those that don’t feel guilty about not aborting. I’ve met many mothers in the NICU who were expecting very bad cases and happily walked away with a mostly healthy baby a few days later because it was actually a mild case.
We didn’t find out about the SB until after birth. Later on the palliative care team kept coming around. In one meeting where I was trying to get the doctors to do the surgery she needed (I ended up getting a 2nd opinion from a different hospital) and they were lying to me that it wouldn’t help and the palliative care guy kept interrupting to tell us that we could take her home and let her die. I had to tell him to shut up.
Supposedly it is possible to correct SB via surgery in utero, and has been for nearly two decades now. So why don't they? Probably money.
That’s a misconception. The surgery may or may not help, we are unsure about that. Some get the surgery, some aren’t candidates. It may make symptoms less severe, not sure. At birth or in utero the doctors repair the back, try to put the nerves back in the spine and close the hole. But all the other issues that come with SB are still there.
This is a recurring story. Doctors give mothers the worst outcomes in all cases when they see a malformation of any kind. I thank the Lord I did not have an ultrasound. What Canada is doing is called murder!
One EU country (Germany?) has banned routine prenatal ultrasound. Some concern over safety, but perhaps this as well? Or to keep costs down? IDK.
Well look at what it did to babies with Down Syndrome. Those numbers are now practically nonexistent anymore. Women talked into eliminating their child because they aren’t perfect….given worst case scenarios. What happened to First Do No Harm?
Yes, the over use of US is concerning for MANY reasons. The interference of doctors in childbirth is overwhelming. I believe it’s all part of the cabal to reduce population.
"the palliative care guy kept interrupting to tell us that we could take her home and let her die."
I would have smashed his face in. Only an amoral lowlife would do that "job".
So, you should have been an amoral lowlife and smashed his/her face in. I would have forgiven you.
Later Jay
In California & some other states we have “Death with Dignity.” So if you have a terminal illness & a diagnosis of 6 months or less you can get medication to end your life. My ex husband actually did this. It was horrible & very expensive. If you don’t think this is also about the money you are wrong. The medication is $5,000.00. If you want a Dr. to administer it, it’s another $3,000.00. When you have hospice available, who can make you comfortable & you can die naturally ( my mother & husband both went through this) it’s emotionally better for everyone concerned. Losing a loved one is devastating enough without a suicide! This assisted suicide is a devastating horrific experience. You never get over seeing it. Personally, having lived through it, I think it should be outlawed. We are losing our humanity & our souls.
It is a good thing to hear about having to witness a person going thru assisted suicide. People never talk about it. My mom wanted to do it. She was not in pain, but did not want to go thru the natural progression to death. It was probably the most painful thing during her illness coming to grips that my mom wanted to off herself so casually. And it WAS casual. Luckily, before we could get her to Oregon she died a peaceful death, with me and my husband by her side, loving and caring for her to the end. People think they are doing their family a service to off themselves. Utterly untrue. My dad died a slower and more painful death, but the slow wind down gave him a chance to settle his life and bravely face his end. He knew suicide was the cowardly selfish way. It always is. ALWAYS. I know that will get pushback. But your end is not yours to decide.
Even hospice, the American version, can be very murderous. Hospice murdered my mother, overdosing her aggressively on morphine. She was in late stage COPD but didn't believe me when I told her they would try to shove morphine, Haldol and Ativan into her. Three days after those bastards got her in their care, she was dead. I didn't have power of attorney, but if I had, I would not have allowed those filthy hyenas anywhere near her.
In the UK, hospice has a different orientation, being directed at comforting, not murder of the patient.
UK has murdered thousands with Midazolam. Hancock used two years supply in a six month period in 2021. They were placing DNRs on anybody with a disability, or elderly. One mother reported her deaf teenage son had a DNR notice.
Before the scamdemic they were also killing the elderly, a private individual had investigated for years. He had a dossier and was found murdered in his flat (about two years ago). I can't remember his name but a bit if searching any interested will find it.
The founder of hospice in UK had a different ethic than the founder of US hospice. Her idea was not to hasten death but to provide comfort. In the US hospice always had the notion that death is better than " low quality of life". Are there abuses in the UK? Of course, but nothing like the murder machine that is US hospice. It's become a lucrative racket in the US. The doctor overseeing the hospice that murdered my mother had been disciplined for signing DNRs en masse and in advance to be used on patients that he never examined.
This is a VERY individual choice. My sister-in-law took this path. Terminal cancer and even heavy pain meds weren't working much at all. I admired her courage, and here passing was very peaceful. I am comforted knowing I can take this path if I end up with a similar terminal illness.
I agree. Wholeheartedly. But mankind LOVES to fuck with individual choices!
I predicted years ago this would happen when the push to make assisted suicide/euthanasia legal. Before then many doctors would consult with patient and family and up the morphine until they died peacefully. No need for govt. intervention.
Once govt. (read big business) gets involved it morphs in to a killing machine. Look at the UK with their Pathways To Death plans and DNR notices in aged care homes.
For example in Canada recently a young women with physical disabilities complained about the lack of aid she was (not) receiving and they offered her assisted suicide as an option.
The governments are our enemies, big pharma is our enemy. The fake pandemic and clot shots proved that to us.
Unfortunately that would not get me what I wanted. I found out right before the meeting that they had a meeting before our meeting to talk about how to manipulate me. The lady from the palliative care team who was nice let it slip when I ran into her in the hall and she told me she couldn’t stay for the meeting. I also secretly recorded everything.
I know a woman who's elderly husband was admitted to hospital last year and they tried to do the same with her. She knew they wanted to kill him with their Pathways To Death (he was malnourished and dehydrated) so she was talking tactics to her husband in French (they are French) and the nurse sternly told her to "speak English". Needless to say the nurse was unceremoniously forced in to the hallway.
She finally had him discharged and he became well again.
shit is hard to believe but yeah they do this I had a close relative told to go home and die peacefully (of cancer) about 2 years before he finally died. His wife fired that oncologist and got on the injectable food instead and he was comfortable almost to the end.
We shouldn’t have to battle the establishment to keep people alive. Every life is sacred, and why should we trust those with agendas, such as anti-life ideologies or money?
Case in point: WHY give a mammogram to an 80 something YO woman with severe dementia? If they find a tumor are they going to operate and remove her boobs? They know what trauma that would be for that woman. YET many people have to fight doctors over it. Ditto for gyn appointments. Alzheimers folks do not understand that invasion. But money! Oh the pursuit of mammon.
Enter the hospital at your own risk....seriously!!
You are an awesome parent. Good on you!! :-)
Friends of mine had a daughter two years ago who was diagnosed through amniocentesis to have trisomy 13. They were offered termination as an option. They declined, and her first months were very touch and go, but the parents cherished every moment with their daughter knowing every day could literally be their last.
She still has some severe health issues but she is loved, and not for one second would her parents ever consider her unworthy of life.
My hubby & I never considered having an abortion. As far as we have always been concerned, you get what you get in this world. If the baby is meant to make it, it will. Our job as its parent is to nurture it as best as we can.
Sounds like your friends are good parents to their daughter :-)
We've got 3 healthy kids. Sure the first one has Asperger's (like my Mum) and my second one has borderline cerebral palsy (cord was tightly around his neck at birth but the only sign you can notice now is that occasionally he dribbles) but they're all full of beans and they're strong and physically very healthy. They're actually really great, very alive and smart kids.
But I will be honest and say that sometimes we want to give our Aspie firstborn back (!) but we know we can't so we just keep on keeping on ;-)
I have 5 kids myself, and although they don’t have any official diagnoses, there have been times I wanted do to give them back as well 😆 Everyone has their own challenges, and I wholeheartedly agree- we all do our best.
I think just about every parent of even the most "normal" of kids have certain memories of those extreme moments when against the better angels of their nature they had intrusive thoughts of eanting to "give them back". And eventually the inter-regnum horribilus passed! Hard times often transform all involved into being better people afterward.
I keep a daily journal and have most of my life. I was reviewing one from 25 years ago where I had noted that my 2 1/2 yo son had taken a big poo in his diaper and managed to scamper over to a rocking horse we had, and take a nice ride before I could stop him. That was one of those fun moments I can laugh about now. Well, I actually laughed even then.
"I wholeheartedly agree- we all do our best. "
Actually, sadly, 'we' all don't. I know more than few that don't even try.
Canadians need to join with the USA and fight the evil that is taking over our institutions!
Wow!
I've only recently been made aware that the organs must be living to be useful--so there are some ethics concerns about how exactly they are harvested. Since it is a really disturbing subject, I have not yet examined this issue in more detail, but maybe other people already know more than I did and do.
Thank you for pointing this out. This is making me so sick. I'm only 40, but it's my father's generation that had their lives taken when a doctor deemed them unworthy of it. Right here. Not long ago. Just one generation between then and today.
"Do you know anyone who was born very sick and with health problems who then went on to live a productive life?"
The notion of productivity being the hallmark of life's value is the root of evil. Seeing human beings only in the context of their value to others. Classic utilitarian ideology. It's the strongest link between what happened in the past years and Nazi Germany. The wikipedia article about utilitarianism has been hijacked, making it look like some Utopian version of reality, but it's the exact opposite.
We must not quantify the value of human beings. What about the value of life itself? What about our souls?
When you take God out of everything, which is what has happened, people fill it with something else. Lust for money? Power? Both!
Similar to the ancient days of Sparta where they would examine a baby and toss it off a cliff if it wasn't normal.
In the good old days when uman animals where less degenerate than Today... it is very plausible that uman animals would cull the offspring if it was delivered with defect. After all Biology and Nature demands such Equilibrium.
I said to my 10 year old daughter this morning, they’ve expanded Canad’s MAID program to infants.
There was a long pause.
I went to do some laundry.
After a while, she called up, ‘Isn’t that murder?’
Children can’t develop well if they, instead of the grownups, are having to carry the worries of the world on their shoulders. Your daughter should be playing with dolls or climbing trees.
So this is an interesting conversation and I'll try to answer in a way that isn't defensive; obviously it's an issue I've considered.
What took place in 2020, then through 2021, was a blight on our society for many reasons, but high in the list for me comes the acceptance from ordinary people of the exclusion, coercion and vehement hatred adopted toward their neighbors. These were things that needed to be called out. They designated a frame of mind that needed to be called out. You're reading Chudov here so I'm going to take it as read that you can trace the line between Canada's MAID program and the events during COVID. Factually, my daughter is roughly aware. Emotionally too however, there is a link, and this must be clearly stated. Children need the moral compass of the adults that surround them. When submerged in a culture in which morals have fled, truth - even if painful - can offer more hope than ignorance.
In this instance you are right.
Green "has helped some 300 people die." Does that mean killed some 300 people?
Trudeau is dangerous, for all kinds of reasons. His anti-human policies are those of the Globalists WEF UN WHO Corporate Autocrat Globalist Elites.
If you want to understand why we are being exterminated .... you need to read this:
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2023/10/25/todays-energy-bottleneck-may-bring-down-major-governments/
Because they know the genetic defaults coming in the next few years as the jab does its job and the gene theraphy screws up and we get who knows what
CANADA KILLS OFF ITS WEAKEST: In a move that's been called "eugenicist", people who are addicted to drugs will be eligible for medical assistance in dying (MAID) by March 2024.
The person will have to demonstrate they've tried several treatments, but nothing worked. What's next - suicide yourself if you've proven that you can't get rich?
MAID became legal in Canada in 2016. Since then, the rules around who is eligible have been relaxed several times - and rates have increased TEN FOLD to around 10,000 cases in 2021
That is exactly what happens and why every law and reg must be minimally intrusive on the population. Best argument against liberal gov’t!
Those people are monsters and demons. But such monsters in the medical field is not new. As far back as the 1970s, those of us in the right-to-life movement knew that "defective" babies were being quietly killed in hospitals. They didn't stop at their early search-and-destroy method of amniocentesis to find and kill the defective in the womb ... they were killing them after birth, too. Monsters and demons. And God will deal with them.
God gave the job to us
God did say, "Vengeance is Mine," and human justice no doubt pales in comparison. We might start it, but God will finish it!
This is what a world absent God looks like.
Nietzsche warned us.
Only worse. MUCH worse. From what I have learned, God has been withdrawing His divine protection from the countries of the world, especially those whose benefits were not appreciated, but rather taken for granted; many even despised and ridiculed as folly; denying that God even exists! The same have put death before life in every respect. But His wrath kindles in a slow progression giving the people ample time to repent, by allowing disaster to follow disaster. If this does not awaken a sense of spiritual remorse, and a desire to return to God the things which are His, nothing will! USA has been identified as the beast with two horns but that...("Revelation 13:11) speaks like a dragon. Lots of speculation attached to this verse from the Babylonian churches, but an in-depth study will prove them false. USA is leading the world and will continue to do so until the bitter end.
Who ya gonna trust?
Ray
Babylonian churches?
Paddy,
One of the most difficult things I'm faced with, when attempting to clarify things as a whole, is whether to condense, or expound. Either avenue seems fraught with aspects which lead toward doubt.
But just as faith is not "blind" and rests upon sound evidence, so too, are the overwhelming historical facts; many of which are seen as repetitious, leading one to ponder implications set thereby.
As an example, the Twin Towers (and bldg 7) on that fateful day, all came down in perfect demo-style. A plethora of scientific evidence came forth thereafter, substantiating the nefariousness of the pre-baked narrative. But it was squashed by MSM. How in the world was this accomplished? Simple: "control." Gain control of the media, and use it as a propaganda tool. That's just ONE single factor, albeit a huge one, shaping the narrative and "cramming" it down the throats of the dumbed down masses. Many, strangely enough, "would have it so!" For those who resisted, names were assigned them.
As for the "spiritual" aspect of the scene, a similar condition prevails. Only, the motive is not power, fame, or fortune, but rather an effort to misguide souls to disobey the Creator's Commandments. Satan remains in the shadows while this takes place, but soon, very soon, he will unveil his most effective deception that he has EVER devised; to impersonate Christ Himself, sweeping into his net, the souls of mankind, who have rejected the Truth of the Word of God.
The wisest man who ever lived, said this, ("Ecclesiastes 12:13 King James Version)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Addendum:
In my admitted shortcomings, there has no doubt been voids of understanding for those who desire to peer into this theme of "righteousness by faith" and how "Babylonian Churches" have affected the scene. The subject is far too extensive and deep for one such as myself to adequately expose, short of writing many hundreds of pages. But for a distinctive understanding of the "Three Angel's Messages" and that of the Fourth Angel of Rev. 18, which is the culmination of accumulated history and the warnings thereof regarding the FINAL message given to a dying world, please see this simple expose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpdCyQyU7s
Changes are coming to the spiritual landscape, and deception is a key role-player.
May God bless all of us.
Ray
I have opted out of organ donation for the reason that doctors are awfully quick to suggest it when you cannot speak for yourself. I might add that no anesthesia is used when "harvesting" organs. Who knows what "brain dead" people can feel.
Hardly any active military died from or with Covid. And why did more military members die of Covid AFTER the vast majority had been vaccinated? A belated analysis of the military’s Covid numbers ….
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/covid-military-deaths-were-almost?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2