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Jestre's avatar

Realistically, it's damn near impossible to prove causality statistically. Even RCTs don't truly prove causality with perfection. The best statistics can really get us with so many confounders floating about is quasi-causal approximations. What we need is not statistics. It's autopsies by people that know what to look for. The autopsies are being done anyways, so it comes down to training the people doing those autopsies to look for the right things... That would be cheaper and irrefutable... Either way. But it would need honest, meaningful government to get it done. Meh. Quasi-causal approximations it is!

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Here is another suspicious death:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/david-sassoli-european-parliament-president-dies-aged-65

"David Sassoli, the president of the European parliament whose final political intervention had been to oppose the building of walls on the EU’s borders, has been praised for his kindness following his death at the age of 65. The former journalist, whose three-year term as speaker of the chamber was due to end next week, had been admitted to hospital in Aviano, in his native Italy, on Boxing Day following a “dysfunction of his immune system”. He died at 1.15am on Tuesday."

It's near certain he was vaccinated and most probably boosted, being an elderly Italian citizen - Italy managing to persuade around 90% of the adult population to get injected, boosting around half of those.

A "serious complication due to a dysfunction of the immune system" (Wikipedia ATM) is highly suspicious, I've never seen this cited as a cause of death of any publicly known person. Curiously, he had pneumonia in September (probably fully vaccinated at that point), which took two months to recover from, so he only resumed his duties as speaker in December. Then I'd speculate he got boosted (ostensibly to protect his weakened lungs), Italian and Belgian boosting drives being in overdrive at that time due to the Omicron menace. On Boxing Day (December 26th) his immune system just collapsed and they fought for his life for a fortnight.

A lot of speculation, yes, but highly probable in my opinion. Could a MD weight in what the hell could be a "serious complication due to a dysfunction of the immune system" and how probable is that? Could somebody dig up some sources in Italian as to the nature of this dysfunction?

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