My marriage was irreparably damaged during covid. My husband recently moved out. We have three young children. He was angry at me because he said I was angry at all the restrictions (I was-- we live in CA). He thought I should wear a mask as courtesy to others-- I said it’s uncourteous to hide one’s face. It got worse when the vaccines rolled out, in June 2021 he threatened to divorce me for not getting the vaccine. I think his mom talked him down from that. Then in the fall, a few hours before Yom Kippur, my employer announced its vaccine requirement. I told my husband that I was going to lose my job and he started yelling. He yelled for three months straight. I ended up getting a last-minute religious exemption, then I quit anyway. It had been my dream job. Our marriage always had its challenges, and the covid lunacy pushed us off the cliff.
What seems missing from these conversations is the culpability of the administration in power. I agree with the person who said we are at war. So while deciding to reconcile is an important decision, we are still at war. The idea that the President could invite and sponsor a visit from the leader of China when Covid has yet to be addressed was really a slap in the face to all of us. I don’t understand how that is not a mind blowing event for everyone. It would be like Hitler being invited to visit the United States after WW2?! The perpetrators must be laughing themselves silly, look at the fools, they are so compliant we can bring the leader of China here and celebrate his visit and they will say nothing. We can open Chinese police stations across America and they will do nothing, we can send spy balloons across their skies and they will do nothing. Of course, whether to create another disaster is an easy decision for them because it is obvious that under this administration nothing will happen! I knew we were going to face a difficult 4 years but we have at least a year left and a lot can happen in a year, and it is happening - Israel, societal unrest, continuing illegal immigration, continued threats of more dictatorship with threats of masking and lockdowns, keep the masses confused and afraid! Bravo! Bring in the clowns! I pray there is a God because that seems about the only thing that might be able to stop the madness !
My parents were so angry with me for not wanting to take the vaccination, and my husband forbid me to tell his mother about how I truly felt about the vaccine, and my brother scolded me badly many times about the vaccine. My co-workers shunned me and my closest co-worker, whom I truly loved and trusted, said only idiots don't take the shot. My best friend from my childhood forbid me to talk about the shot, she said she would end our friendship if I ever spoke about it again so i became silent. I stopped talking altogether and just tried to stay sane without communicating with other people. It broke me somewhat, i got broken and hurt. I am still not myself after this. I am still behaving strange. I have got true issues. I feel broken.
For all of those that lost contact with family members because they wouldn’t get vaccinated when you look back at it it was a good thing. You couldn’t count on those people anyway to really help out in a pinch during capable of critical thinking, and a burden on your own survival, God bless
My great nephew and his girlfriend had a baby in September 2020. No one was allowed to see the baby unless they were vaccinated. I KNOW my family wouldn’t have gotten vaccinated if it weren’t for that requirement. I was so pissed to hear that they got the vaccine in order to see the baby. And by the way that baby is now three years old and always sick. Always! The rest of my family is no longer getting any vaccine. But the baby parents still will not listen to any urging of no more vaccines. Nope. They just keep getting them and getting them and getting them. The baby parents are completely neurotic.
the other shoe will drop. these "vaccinated" people will start seeing the hidden damage soon, or at least the unvaccinated people around them will. Quit blaming others for spreading pathogenic virus particles until such time as you have any proof of their existence. You don't. It's a bad theory with zero support. They destroyed Royal Rife to keep this b.s. alive. His simple concept and fantastic engineering sure could have turned health care into a small business as it should be. Change the contrast of microenvironments to observe (prisms) rather than their chemical environment (dyes).
Observe the environment without changing it (killing all microbes).
It's just not more complicated than that.
I would write off people too stupid to suspect the world's biggest criminals (pHarm industry). Just wait until the so-called adults die off in their 40s and then take care of the children/victims.
I stood on the metaphorical beach and watched the tide come in since November 2019. The tide came and rose and I knew that it would turn into a tsunami, but little did I know how high the waves of fear would rise. Those who taught me morals and imbued me with a strength of conviction quailed under pressure and fear. My loved ones spurned me, my adopted family shunned me, and my workplace fired me all for having conviction, logic, and the willingness to push past the initial appearance of events and dig into the underlying system pushing all of this manipulation.
As the situation progressed I approached others with a "you do you, and I want you to be aware of..." attitude. Can I forgive the people who have hurt me and continue to do so by disregarding the wounds on all of us? Now that the tides lower and the rippling waves return can I welcome those who were conquered by fear into my shelter without hesitation? Especially since the fear still clings to them and oozes off of their bodies.
Perhaps if we could talk... Perhaps if they could lower their guards and let the fear pass through them into the night sky. Perhaps if I could be willing to be vulnerable to them again.
I look up to the stars and am thankful for their constant presence. Without an external anchor I, too, may have been lost in the tide of fear.
There are members of my family who I see because I dearly love them, but I do not trust them to have my well-being at the forefront of their minds. I don't trust them to defeat the fear the threatens them.
Those few people who either didn't care, or supported my choices for their own reasons are a select few who I treasure and trust.
She also notes in her “everything is better now” final post that she “is sober now....”
I’m going to venture that’s a pretty significant part of the puzzle.
Her child isn’t even 2 and she’s mentioning her newly achieved “sobriety”.
There are clearly issues here much deeper than a “virus” and a “vax” for why she acted the way she did, and Baby Daddy probably didn’t just up and boot her for no reason.
As always in these situations, I feel the most badly for the kid. Stuck in a whirlwind of dysfunction literally from the moment he exited the womb.
I hope her parents (that she 💩 all over when she thought she had all the power) provide a loving and stabilizing environment for the little kiddo. Sounds like he’s going to need it.... especially since there’s a chance he might not even have a mom anymore in 5 years. 😬
My spouse and I didn't get vaccinated. We didn't push anything antivax on anyone, very much took the attitude of you-do-you. Despite this, we were cut off by my sister in law and her family. We weren't best buddies to begin with, but we used to do dinner and events together several times a year. My SIL also cut off her parents for not enforcing covid policies at their house. My in-laws nearly fell into the same thinking as SIL, chasing my husband out of the house once for not being vaccinated. Fortunately, they backed off pretty quickly and we've had a good relationship ever since.
I made sure we at least sent SIL happy birthday and holiday texts, just to keep the line of communication open. Suddenly, this past year, it's like she's forgotten all her issues with us and we were invited over. It was nice. I don't see us ever being buddies, but it feels like all is forgiven. We haven't invited them over and we probably won't for a long time, but we'll do some public get togethers - holidays, birthday parties, etc., just nothing too private that leads to awkward conversations.
I feel like the crazy pro-vax, anti-antivaxxer sentiments I heard from old friends, talking heads on TV, and family these last couple of years really made me feel disconnected from the community. When I was kicked out of the gym, not invited to get togethers because they were at restaurants, treated differently in the workplace - those are the things that made me feel like I've lost connection. I don't feel any sentimentality anymore. If I got a job tomorrow on the other side of the world, leaving my home and old friends behind, I'd go in a heartbeat. Those strings that attached me to the community have been cut.
Where I'm at now - Moving across the world isn't likely to happen. Leaving my community, at least in the next few years, isn't likely to happen. So, I'm re-connecting myself to something new. I found a new church that is very small and friendly. They meet for regular potlucks and get togethers outside of church. It's been like sweet music to my soul. A real blessing to get to know such lovely people and a real change of pace from the large church I'd been attending. I've stayed friends with the old friends, but the relationships are distanced. I'm actively seeking new friendships and working to nurture them. I believe in forgiveness, but I'm not sure the old relationships will be what they once were, so I'm finding new ones. I feel like I've been stuck the last few years and I'm finally getting some traction to move again.
"Is personal reconciliation possible or even necessary?"
Igor, can I ask why this sudden push for reconciliation? I also noticed a lot of genocidal maniacs coming forward to ask us to forgive and forget because "they did their best" and "science changed".
Call me paranoid, but it's interesting that you are going in the same direction...
Any way, here is my answer: have they apologized, repented and PAID for their mistakes? If not, all this talk is not about reconciliation. It's about allowing the EVIL to continue.
I reconciled with some family - they admitted their mistake. I could never reconcile with a doctor that killed people unless he is convicted in a court of law and does the time.
Leaving aside wishes and dreams which won't happen, here is how the future will look like: same evil psychopaths will remain in power after the MSM admits "mistakes were made" (a la Stalin). The majority of the people, being spineless NPCs will be happy to get closure and "move on". The next pandemic (looks like 2024 but who knows) will feature another designed virus and another quackcine. This time, CBDC, digital IDs and antisemitism laws will all provide better tools to cancel anyone who dares ask questions. Maybe Bill Gates's aerosolized vaccine will be used to ensure everyone gets it. So expect 10X higher mortality and 10X less complains - after all, you forgave them the first time!
No. How can I live in a world where sanctimonious holier-than-thou know-it-alls tell me that I am a granny killer whilst they get their 5th shot of Heart Damage paid for out of my taxes !?!?!?
However, the situation we got in was also *exactly* because of the reaction of the majority of the "normal" population. There is NO awareness, acknowledgment, nor justice related to that, exactly the opposite where people are denying they did anything wrong, or straight up falsification of history.
We *WILL* be getting in the same situation, history *WILL* repeat, and it *WILL* be worse. Unless we can get into the thick skulls of people. I don't have high hopes on that.
Burning Bridges, Giving Up, Forgiving, and Reconciling
The outpouring of responses is almost crazy - so many of us were affected - thanks to all for your contributions
My marriage was irreparably damaged during covid. My husband recently moved out. We have three young children. He was angry at me because he said I was angry at all the restrictions (I was-- we live in CA). He thought I should wear a mask as courtesy to others-- I said it’s uncourteous to hide one’s face. It got worse when the vaccines rolled out, in June 2021 he threatened to divorce me for not getting the vaccine. I think his mom talked him down from that. Then in the fall, a few hours before Yom Kippur, my employer announced its vaccine requirement. I told my husband that I was going to lose my job and he started yelling. He yelled for three months straight. I ended up getting a last-minute religious exemption, then I quit anyway. It had been my dream job. Our marriage always had its challenges, and the covid lunacy pushed us off the cliff.
What seems missing from these conversations is the culpability of the administration in power. I agree with the person who said we are at war. So while deciding to reconcile is an important decision, we are still at war. The idea that the President could invite and sponsor a visit from the leader of China when Covid has yet to be addressed was really a slap in the face to all of us. I don’t understand how that is not a mind blowing event for everyone. It would be like Hitler being invited to visit the United States after WW2?! The perpetrators must be laughing themselves silly, look at the fools, they are so compliant we can bring the leader of China here and celebrate his visit and they will say nothing. We can open Chinese police stations across America and they will do nothing, we can send spy balloons across their skies and they will do nothing. Of course, whether to create another disaster is an easy decision for them because it is obvious that under this administration nothing will happen! I knew we were going to face a difficult 4 years but we have at least a year left and a lot can happen in a year, and it is happening - Israel, societal unrest, continuing illegal immigration, continued threats of more dictatorship with threats of masking and lockdowns, keep the masses confused and afraid! Bravo! Bring in the clowns! I pray there is a God because that seems about the only thing that might be able to stop the madness !
My parents were so angry with me for not wanting to take the vaccination, and my husband forbid me to tell his mother about how I truly felt about the vaccine, and my brother scolded me badly many times about the vaccine. My co-workers shunned me and my closest co-worker, whom I truly loved and trusted, said only idiots don't take the shot. My best friend from my childhood forbid me to talk about the shot, she said she would end our friendship if I ever spoke about it again so i became silent. I stopped talking altogether and just tried to stay sane without communicating with other people. It broke me somewhat, i got broken and hurt. I am still not myself after this. I am still behaving strange. I have got true issues. I feel broken.
I know not a single soul that did not experience negative effects on close relationships of theirs due to covid.
For all of those that lost contact with family members because they wouldn’t get vaccinated when you look back at it it was a good thing. You couldn’t count on those people anyway to really help out in a pinch during capable of critical thinking, and a burden on your own survival, God bless
My great nephew and his girlfriend had a baby in September 2020. No one was allowed to see the baby unless they were vaccinated. I KNOW my family wouldn’t have gotten vaccinated if it weren’t for that requirement. I was so pissed to hear that they got the vaccine in order to see the baby. And by the way that baby is now three years old and always sick. Always! The rest of my family is no longer getting any vaccine. But the baby parents still will not listen to any urging of no more vaccines. Nope. They just keep getting them and getting them and getting them. The baby parents are completely neurotic.
the other shoe will drop. these "vaccinated" people will start seeing the hidden damage soon, or at least the unvaccinated people around them will. Quit blaming others for spreading pathogenic virus particles until such time as you have any proof of their existence. You don't. It's a bad theory with zero support. They destroyed Royal Rife to keep this b.s. alive. His simple concept and fantastic engineering sure could have turned health care into a small business as it should be. Change the contrast of microenvironments to observe (prisms) rather than their chemical environment (dyes).
Observe the environment without changing it (killing all microbes).
It's just not more complicated than that.
I would write off people too stupid to suspect the world's biggest criminals (pHarm industry). Just wait until the so-called adults die off in their 40s and then take care of the children/victims.
I don't know. I hurt.
I stood on the metaphorical beach and watched the tide come in since November 2019. The tide came and rose and I knew that it would turn into a tsunami, but little did I know how high the waves of fear would rise. Those who taught me morals and imbued me with a strength of conviction quailed under pressure and fear. My loved ones spurned me, my adopted family shunned me, and my workplace fired me all for having conviction, logic, and the willingness to push past the initial appearance of events and dig into the underlying system pushing all of this manipulation.
As the situation progressed I approached others with a "you do you, and I want you to be aware of..." attitude. Can I forgive the people who have hurt me and continue to do so by disregarding the wounds on all of us? Now that the tides lower and the rippling waves return can I welcome those who were conquered by fear into my shelter without hesitation? Especially since the fear still clings to them and oozes off of their bodies.
Perhaps if we could talk... Perhaps if they could lower their guards and let the fear pass through them into the night sky. Perhaps if I could be willing to be vulnerable to them again.
I look up to the stars and am thankful for their constant presence. Without an external anchor I, too, may have been lost in the tide of fear.
There are members of my family who I see because I dearly love them, but I do not trust them to have my well-being at the forefront of their minds. I don't trust them to defeat the fear the threatens them.
Those few people who either didn't care, or supported my choices for their own reasons are a select few who I treasure and trust.
She also notes in her “everything is better now” final post that she “is sober now....”
I’m going to venture that’s a pretty significant part of the puzzle.
Her child isn’t even 2 and she’s mentioning her newly achieved “sobriety”.
There are clearly issues here much deeper than a “virus” and a “vax” for why she acted the way she did, and Baby Daddy probably didn’t just up and boot her for no reason.
As always in these situations, I feel the most badly for the kid. Stuck in a whirlwind of dysfunction literally from the moment he exited the womb.
I hope her parents (that she 💩 all over when she thought she had all the power) provide a loving and stabilizing environment for the little kiddo. Sounds like he’s going to need it.... especially since there’s a chance he might not even have a mom anymore in 5 years. 😬
Thanks for this comment. I was not familiar with the song or band!
My spouse and I didn't get vaccinated. We didn't push anything antivax on anyone, very much took the attitude of you-do-you. Despite this, we were cut off by my sister in law and her family. We weren't best buddies to begin with, but we used to do dinner and events together several times a year. My SIL also cut off her parents for not enforcing covid policies at their house. My in-laws nearly fell into the same thinking as SIL, chasing my husband out of the house once for not being vaccinated. Fortunately, they backed off pretty quickly and we've had a good relationship ever since.
I made sure we at least sent SIL happy birthday and holiday texts, just to keep the line of communication open. Suddenly, this past year, it's like she's forgotten all her issues with us and we were invited over. It was nice. I don't see us ever being buddies, but it feels like all is forgiven. We haven't invited them over and we probably won't for a long time, but we'll do some public get togethers - holidays, birthday parties, etc., just nothing too private that leads to awkward conversations.
I feel like the crazy pro-vax, anti-antivaxxer sentiments I heard from old friends, talking heads on TV, and family these last couple of years really made me feel disconnected from the community. When I was kicked out of the gym, not invited to get togethers because they were at restaurants, treated differently in the workplace - those are the things that made me feel like I've lost connection. I don't feel any sentimentality anymore. If I got a job tomorrow on the other side of the world, leaving my home and old friends behind, I'd go in a heartbeat. Those strings that attached me to the community have been cut.
Where I'm at now - Moving across the world isn't likely to happen. Leaving my community, at least in the next few years, isn't likely to happen. So, I'm re-connecting myself to something new. I found a new church that is very small and friendly. They meet for regular potlucks and get togethers outside of church. It's been like sweet music to my soul. A real blessing to get to know such lovely people and a real change of pace from the large church I'd been attending. I've stayed friends with the old friends, but the relationships are distanced. I'm actively seeking new friendships and working to nurture them. I believe in forgiveness, but I'm not sure the old relationships will be what they once were, so I'm finding new ones. I feel like I've been stuck the last few years and I'm finally getting some traction to move again.
All I can say is That I am still angry. Until they admit they were fooled, I am bearing a grudge.
Maybe in time.
"Is personal reconciliation possible or even necessary?"
Igor, can I ask why this sudden push for reconciliation? I also noticed a lot of genocidal maniacs coming forward to ask us to forgive and forget because "they did their best" and "science changed".
Call me paranoid, but it's interesting that you are going in the same direction...
Any way, here is my answer: have they apologized, repented and PAID for their mistakes? If not, all this talk is not about reconciliation. It's about allowing the EVIL to continue.
I reconciled with some family - they admitted their mistake. I could never reconcile with a doctor that killed people unless he is convicted in a court of law and does the time.
Leaving aside wishes and dreams which won't happen, here is how the future will look like: same evil psychopaths will remain in power after the MSM admits "mistakes were made" (a la Stalin). The majority of the people, being spineless NPCs will be happy to get closure and "move on". The next pandemic (looks like 2024 but who knows) will feature another designed virus and another quackcine. This time, CBDC, digital IDs and antisemitism laws will all provide better tools to cancel anyone who dares ask questions. Maybe Bill Gates's aerosolized vaccine will be used to ensure everyone gets it. So expect 10X higher mortality and 10X less complains - after all, you forgave them the first time!
No. How can I live in a world where sanctimonious holier-than-thou know-it-alls tell me that I am a granny killer whilst they get their 5th shot of Heart Damage paid for out of my taxes !?!?!?
On a personal level things might normalize.
However, the situation we got in was also *exactly* because of the reaction of the majority of the "normal" population. There is NO awareness, acknowledgment, nor justice related to that, exactly the opposite where people are denying they did anything wrong, or straight up falsification of history.
We *WILL* be getting in the same situation, history *WILL* repeat, and it *WILL* be worse. Unless we can get into the thick skulls of people. I don't have high hopes on that.