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Undine's avatar

My multiple-vaxed mother was just diagnosed with myocarditis. (Along with the three small strokes she’s had since getting jabbed. And she’s had Covid four times that I know of.)

The other day, I was talking to an old friend. She just got one shot, because she had such a bad reaction to it, she said, “No more!” We were saying something about doctors, and she commented how much she hates seeing them, but she has to because of her “wonky heart.”

I was stunned. I’ve known her since the 1970s, and in all that time, she’s been a very healthy, athletic person who never said ANYTHING about heart problems.

Years ago, I began reading “A Canticle For Leibowitz.” I had to stop because the book was so depressing. And now I feel like we’re about to live through it.

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Messenger17's avatar

Wow, I've not the words to express my horror and anger.. My family took the shot, too, but fortunately many friends, including some of my closest friends, have not.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Yet another friend was diagnosed with as he says 'a minor heart issue' last week. He was to have minor surgery -- and they found this 'minor issue' and had to cancel the surgery.

Let me see if I can tally this - all are fully boosted (except the dead ones) .... one friend semi pro hockey player --- myocarditis... another friend -- super fit competitive runner late 40's -- myocarditis... super fit instructor in our gym - myocarditis... fit friend who is a pro hockey scout - heart attack... friend's son mid 20's -- heart attack (dead)... one other friend -- fit surfer -- pancreatic cancer... takes another booster just as he's about to start chemo -- heart attack ...

I could list the ones with blood clots cancer diabetes and so on .. but I don't have all day

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robert Barnicle's avatar

Nice to see you Eddy. First spoke on Geerts site. Do you watch SuspiciousObservers on YT

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California Girl's avatar

I am sorry for your loss. We have all lost.

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KB's avatar

coworker woke up with turbo parkinsons 1.5 yrs ago at 75. Could not button his shirt is how it began. This is a man doing marathons and triathlons 10 yrs ago, still fit and self care except for all the vaxxines (still no connecting the dots). Now a slave to doc visits and pharma for his shortened life. 2) 35 yr old men died in sleep within month of booster. Neighbor got turbo prostate cancer after 1vax...died on fentanyl and VENTILATOR, they tried to put it down as Covid! Previous boss just died after 6 months mysterious brain fluid and shunt installed. This is in my small circle.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

There are a few Vaxxers who said some rather unkindly things to me when I refused the Rat Juice... I am waiting anxiously for them to pay the piper

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Faith's avatar

Such attitudes have a way of "boomeranging" back onto people. And negative attitudes are correlated with poor health outcomes in addition to reduced quality of life. Your neurology and immune system will both suffer for it.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

But it's not negative ... Schadenfreude is the exactly opposite of negative... it is a celebration of the demise of MORE-ONS. It is cathartic. It is pure bliss.

And that ... relieves the stress of having to listen to these f789ing idiot vaxxers drone on and on about Safe and Effective

Think of it like... a hobby

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

Hold that grudge. Now there's a solid life plan. Where do you want to be in five years, "Fast" Eddy? "Anxiously holding grudges and wishing people dead from unkindly things they said years ago." YEAH! Beautiful...I can see it. I really can.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Have you not gotten the memo? We'll all be dead soon

I don't concern myself with 5 year plans.

In the meantime turning the other cheeks is for the weak.

https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220

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Faith's avatar

Speak for yourself. We will not "all be dead soon"!

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Faith's avatar

How old are you, Fast Eddy?

I've been folowing the Peak Oil hypothesis for forty years, at least. Contrary to all the Scare-mongering, lots more oil as been discoverd since the original dire predictions. Funny thing— the entire situation is EXTREMELY reminiscent of ANOTHER BASELESS control-trip manipulation narrative! Global Warming-Turned-Climate-Change when the Earth failed to continue warming and started INCONVENIENTLY COOLING!!!!!!

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Any idea why we are steaming oil out of sand... if we have so much easy stuff left?

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MAGA_From_Heaven's avatar

Yes, but nobody will ever open your closed mind... you have so many blind spots or you're just a griefer.

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Faith's avatar

I reiterate: "We will not 'all be dead soon'!"

Lot of fearmongering going on there. And, BTW that graph of oil production through 2014 showed the highest level at the very END, Dec. '14, NOT 2005!

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Conventional peaked around 2005... shale 2018...

According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html

Conventional Oil Sources peaked in 2008 and the Shale binge has now spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times.

Preface. Conventional crude oil production may have already peaked in 2008 at 69.5million barrels per day (mb/d) according to Europe’s International Energy Agency (IEA 2018 p45). The U.S. Energy Information Agency shows global peak crude oil production at a later date in 2018 at 82.9mb/d (EIA 2020) because they included tight oil, oil sands, and deep-sea oil. Though it will take several years of lower oil production to be sure the peak occurred. Regardless, world production has been on a plateau since 2005.

What’s saved the world from oil decline was unconventional tight “fracked” oil, which accounted for 63% of total U.S. crude oil production in 2019 and 83% of global oil growth from 2009 to 2019. So it’s a big deal if we’ve reached the peak of fracked oil, because that is also the peak of both conventional and unconventional oil and the decline of all oil in the future.

Some key points from this Financial Times article: https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/

Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://archive.ph/tjl6J

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Faith's avatar

Yes, and all that is why we especially need to be building more CLEAN coal-burning plants. The U.S. has enough coal to last for centuries.

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Pirate Studebaker's avatar

I have received no memo.

"In the meantime turning the other cheeks is for the weak."

Awww. You made a little poem. Almost. I don't know how many "other cheeks" you can turn, perhaps bum cheeks as well as facial? A veritable whirligig of cheeks?

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Faith's avatar

Very funny in a macabre sort of way(!).

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Throughout my life of 83 years I have realized that thinking of revenge for past insults, being lied to, and double crossed are a waste of energy. However, what comes to pass is some kind of karma, that inflicts injury on the perpetrator. They either get fired from their job, do jail time or even die.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

The good thing is ... there is no need to take revenge.... the Boosters will do the work :)

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

I always wondered what "Doctor, heal thyself" really meant.

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Bob's avatar

Which part of the book? The "simplification"?

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Mark's avatar

I remember that book. I still think about it from time to time. It was depressing, but also hard to put down....

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BlackThunder's avatar

Ordered the book on your recommendation.

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grr's avatar

My vaxtard brother had two or three clot shots. Developed AF, heart rate 200+. Three cardio versions failed and had had two ablations. He was warned, but is mentally weak and arrogant and went along with his wife, a rabid covidiot, as she earns the money for their family.

They poisoned their two children too. The 14 year old recently fainted (a symptom of POTS among other ailments)

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The lack of science education in US high schools is disgraceful.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

All the PhDs I worked with stampeded to get the injections. Me, with the lowly BSc, was too stupid to get them. Pah!

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

But there are exceptions, me for example :-)

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Brutus's avatar

My experience with teachers is they may know how to teach their specific subject, but they are not well rounded intellectually and don’t have an in-depth knowledge of anything. I almost fainted when one asked me why the moon changes from night tonight.

When the average American graduates be at high school or college schools out, and recess begins for the rest of their life.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

I am English, but I have lived in NewYork for the past twenty years, where my friends are lawyers, and my in laws are in the medical profession. My lawyer thinks we should all use hydrogen fuel. When I asked him where the hydrogen was going to come from he was baffled. He also thought that the Federal Reserve is a government agency. So I asked him to explain, why is it that the US Treasury is in debt to the tune of $34 trillion.

When I was telling my two nieces about my trip to Brazil, where I had the need to go to one of their hospital emergency rooms for a bad cut to be stitched up, I told them they had no billing department. One of the nieces' husbands remarked " Yes, but Brazil is a small country."

The other husband, a biologist was baffled when I told him that human blood has the same salinity as sea water. He was also incredulous when I gave him the definition of a British Thermal Unit. And when I told them all that time does not exist, it is always now, that was very interesting :-)

And they all believe that 0.04% CO2 controls the earth's surface temperature, and that mRNA vaccines have saved millions of lives.

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Faith's avatar

Human blood is "normal saline" at 0.9% salt (sodium chloride). Seawater is almost four times as concentrated, which is why drinking it will rapidly kill you!

The RATIOS of the minerals in it is what is very similar to human blood.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

I think that seawater has increased over billions of years since life emerged from the oceans.

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Faith's avatar

The mineral content, you mean. Yes. The early oceans would have had a lot less dissolved solids. Must have been a factor in the timeline of development of life forms. But the ratios have probably been relatively consistent and obviously compatible with living organisms.

One difference is that the lower-mineral early oceans with their lesser amount of dissolved alkaline minerals were not able to remove nearly as much CO2 from the atmosphere as is done today. The Earth's original CO2 level of 30% would be impossible now because of the enormous buffering capacity of seawater that it can combine with.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The oceans contain 50 times as much CO2 as the gas atmosphere. As the oceans have warmed since the ending of the last ice age approximately 15,000 years ago, CO2 has come out of solution since CO2 is less soluble the warmer the water. Vostok ice drilling in the Antarctic demonstrates that warming precedes CO2 increases in the gas atmosphere by about 500 years.

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Faith's avatar

EXACTLY!!!

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Skidmark's avatar

This comment is a gem. May I translate it (into French) and use it on my blog?

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

By all means :-)

Allons enfant de la Patrie

Le jour de gloire est arrive !

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Skidmark's avatar

Thanks!

I'm Belgian, by the way, but my French wife will be pleased.

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RE Nichols's avatar

They probably think they speak Latin in Brazil. Just like the other countries down in Latin America.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

It is only the Roman Catholic Church that still uses Latin in its religious services.

In the whole of South America with the exception of Brazil, the people speak Spanish (plus their indigenous languages). In Brazil, Portuguese is spoken.

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RE Nichols's avatar

I know. I was trying to be funny.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

My late Jewish father in law thought that Yiddish was actually Hebrew, rather than a German dialect spoken by the Ashkenazi in Poland and Germany.

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grr's avatar

Yep agreed, however this wasn't in the USA. All Five Eyes regimes lack indepth STEM subjects.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The problem with taking STEM subjects at university level is that they are tough courses, and when you do get your degree, the pay is not too spiffy. Academic research is also somewhat underpaid and boring. Life can be much more rewarding as a lawyer or being a doctor, once upon a time. I have a STEM PhD but I decided to pursue a career in international metal trading that was much more fun and highly paid :-)

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Xabier's avatar

The STEM types who stayed in the field also fell for this fraud, however.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Whether the STEM types fell for the global warming hoax or not, is to some extent determined by which particular field of study they concentrate. For example, mathematicians will be good at statistical analysis of empirical evidence, biologists concentrate on the study of life forms, bacteriology, virology, and diseases; chemists can study either organic, physical or inorganic chemistry; physicists may concentrate on magnetism, electricity, astronomy, cosmology, astrophysics and nuclear physics. They often do not communicate with each other.

There is also the problem of research funding largely supplied by governments, who have particular agendas they wish to support and those they do not. Any scientist who applies for a government grant better not have any dissident views

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Ira Leifer's avatar

very sorry for the myocarditis, FLCCC has a protocol you may consider discussing with her physician.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Suggestions for your old friend, but first a little background to see where these suggestions are coming from.

I had my bi-cuspid aortic valve replaced and a single by-pass (which I'd question now) late 2018. My ejection fraction just before surgery was about 30% versus a normal 55+% EF.

Pre then post surgery, I've gone to and dropped six cardiologists...all wanting me on a statin, all wanting me on their 'preferred' extra meds which were all different. I dropped the incompetent GP from pre-surgery and found a homeopathic GP...and have no cardiologist today. Most recent echo-cardiogram, ordered through my GP...my EF was 57%. I attribute the changes primarily to - not listening to blinkered cardiologists, the right supplements, changes in diet and exercise.

Suggestions for your friend, not knowing of course her own specifics. Find a good homeopathic or functional doctor....one that listens and involves her in the path to healing (versus path to medicating). Dig into the research. What supplements might help? What changes in diet would help...especially to move away from the 'standard american diet'. What changes in exercise, changes in interactions with other folks (volunteering etc).

She might find that 'wonky heart' isn't so wonky after all and might not be so in need of some blinkered, or blinded, cardiologist either.

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I tried many statins with no success, not because they didn't work but the side effects. So I got my cartologist to get approved by Medicare and my supplement plan (Tricare for Life) to approve Repatha 140mm/ml subcutaneous injections and Repatha belongs to a class of medications called PCSK9 inhibitors. These drugs help your body remove LDL (“bad”) cholesterol more effectively than it could on its own. They work differently than other drugs used for high cholesterol, such as statins. Can be used with statins or without and without lowers your cholesterol by over 50%, with little or no side effects in most patients. PCSK9 is a liver protein that the cholesterol in you liver binds with normally causing high cholesterol levels, this blocks this protein so the liver gets rid of cholesterol, hence the body can pass it quicker. I've had good luck with it. However, many insurance companies will not pay for it because the injections are now about $700.00 each, down from $1200.00 a couple of years ago, I do have to pay a $34 dollar co pay for 2 injections per month with my part medicare supplemental insurance.

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Faith's avatar

Tons of horrible misinformation/propaganda about cholesterol is being spewed out by Big Pharma so they can continue to add to their already over one TRILLION dollars revenue from Statin drugs!

Note well:

—Cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease.

—LDL, HDL, VLDL are LIPOPROTEINS not cholesterol.

—There is no such thing as "bad cholesterol" unless it is oxidized—often from consuming highly toxic Omega 6 polyunsaturated industrial seed oils (no, they are NOT NOT NOT "heart healthy"!!!!)

—cholesterol is an extremely vital substance, making up some 40% of your brain (dry weight basis), much of the insulating myelin sheath around your nerves, and a critical part of the membrane around every one of your cells. It is SO important that every cell in your body can make it!

—cholesterol is a potent detoxifier that protects your brain AND HEART from damaging toxins. Someone may have very high cholestetol (not counting a genetic cause for it) because they have a high toxic load that the cholesterol is protecting them from: artificially lower their cholesterol and they LOSE that protection against the toxins!

—cholesterol is essential to proper function of the immune system. People with low cholesterol are MUCH more likely to get life-threatening infections.

—people with low cholesterol are much more likely to die from cancer.

—Statin drugs don't save lives, but are more likely to KILL you from infections, cancer, AND HEART FAILURE!

— Statin drugs cause brain shrinkage and dementia.

— Statin drugs can cause irreversible muscle pathology.

—Statin drugs screw up an extremely important metabolic pathway that produces damaging effects not even related to cholesterol, such as inhibiting or shutting down production of the very essential Coenzyme Q10.

The ONLY beneficial effect from Statin drugs has nothing to do with their effect on cholesterol, but only because they are very weak anti-inflammatories— something that other drugs do MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY and MUCH SAFER!

—The ONLY cohort that showed ANY benefit from Statin drugs is younger men who already had a heart attack. Senior men, and ALL women SHOW ZERO BENEFIT! ZERO!

— AGAIN: ALL HARM, NO BENEFIT!

And guess what? People with HIGHER cholesterol LIVE LONGER!

Women with the very highest cholesterol LIVED THE LONGEST!

How do doctors get away with giving these dangerous Statin drugs to people? They are CRIMINALS! Paid-off shills for Big Pharma!

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

But statins have been proven to extend your life expectancy - by two days.

They also cause a loss of muscle mass.

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michael janket's avatar

I'm currently looking for another cardiologist! Got very tired of the BS from a previous cardiologist, looking for another. I've read articles and books about what I expect a cardiologist should believe in and utilize. Supplements are needed and I am taking a few that have shown to be helpful. Of course, main street medicine calls me a sucker and quack, I "should be taking some nice chemicals they espouse". My interview with a new cardiologist should be most interesting. He makes a false step and Wham!, he's outta my life. I'm on to these folks now.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Almost guaranteed...no, guaranteed (10:1) he will want you on a statin of some sort...brand/dosage to be 'negotiated'. Most probably, a statin 'enhancer' of some sort as well (losartan et al). Not aware of your particular case of course...but maybe an ACE inhibitor, Aldosterone inhibitor, Calcium channel blockers, beta blockers, diruetics, blood thinners...

I'm not saying that there aren't cases where some of these drugs really do help. What I am saying is that I believe cardiologists are among the most blinkered and pharma bought doctors out there, especially when it comes to statins.

If you haven't already come across, read through the blog by Malcom Kendrick (https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/). His work and a series by Marie Ann Demasi (also on Substack) really kick-started my research.

Good luck to you sir.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Eliminate sugar and alcohol from your diet, and use low dose aspirin for a blood thinner for a start :-)

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Well...the sugar is gone at least.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I would not suggest any aspirin as I read that it harms the liver.

My suggestion? Start taking Doctor's Best Nattokinase (natural Japanese blood thinner from soybeans that prevents and heals blood clots as promised from Pfizer!)

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Donna Chmielewski's avatar

Nattokinase or lumbrokinase are better for clot busting and blood thinning instead of aspirin.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Red Cayenne red pepper also acts as a good blood thinner.

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Donna Chmielewski's avatar

Cayenne pepper also helps stomach acid issues. It improves blood supply by dilating arteries. It can be used to open coronary arteries if experiencing chest pain much like nitroglycerin was used in the past.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Yes, but it can cause tummy upset. This is why I like Solaray's Cool Cayenne capsules after meals! 😁

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Too much Cayenne pepper can burn both ends, but if you are having a heart attack it is of secondary importance :-)

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RE Nichols's avatar

I convinced my jabbed mother to take it.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Taking Nattokinase sure beats taking Fauci's Ouchies! 😁

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

What evidence do you have that aspirin harms the liver ?

Smoking cigarettes can give you lung cancer and pancreatic cancer.

Alcohol can cause cirrhosis of the liver.

Drinking red wine and beer can cause knee joint pain.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Just google "Does taking aspirin harm the liver?" There are a number of articles about this.

I take Swanson Vitamins' Omega 3,6,9 oil gels (Flax, Borage, Fish) for pain. They WORK and are great for the heart. And, no damage done!

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The medical profession frowns upon the use of aspirin, because it is cheap, effective and off patent. Besides being a blood thinner, it also a good anti inflammatory, and cures head aches

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I am finding that Swanson Vitamins' Omega 3, 6, 9 (flax, borage, and fish ) oil gels erases my pains including now the rare head ache. Also, it helps the cardiovasciular without bad side effects! HalleluYah! 😊

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Brutus's avatar

Any thing in excess will cause problems.

Every plant that God gave us has a beneficial use

Alcohol, nicotine, opium, cocaine, marijuana, all have their place.

Artificially synthesize compounds that duplicate what is found in nature are equivalent

When we manipulate what we get from plants, then we get into some problems because our bodies were not designed to take those chemicals

Half fruit, toast, corn syrup comes to mind

This article on nicotine was as big a shock to me as the articles I’ve read that there’s no such thing as a virus. We’re fed a narrative, our entire life, and then finally somebody uncover the truth and it’s hard to take.

https://nobulart.com/nukes-and-tobacco/

Eat eggs don’t eat eggs drink milk don’t drink milk only skim milk no butter use margarine no animal fat use polyunsaturated fats.

Now there’s a lot of evidence of the poly unsaturated fats are the cause of most of our health problems.

For the last few years if I can’t shoot it catch it grow it or gather it I probably don’t need to be eating it

Vegetable oils are fine as long as they’re in the vegetable, same with sugars

when you go separate the vegetable matter from the oil and the sugar and then change the components of the sugar, Why are we surprised when things aren’t working out so well

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Yes, diet recommendations from the healthcare industry have changed significantly over the years. I was born in 1940 in England when food was rationed. I was always thin as a child, because the portions my mother served up were rather small. During the summer school holidays I had a bowl of Heinz vegetable soup for lunch. For breakfast I had cornflakes or Weetabix with milk. School lunch was subsidized and consisted of mashed potato, boiled cabbage and a small slice of beef with brown gravy. Desert varied between rice pudding, sago, semolina with a few California prunes or a dollop of strawberry jam, or jam tart with custard.

My father has a small apple orchard in our back garden and after the war we also could buy bananas and oranges imported from Israel and South Africa.

Our family evening meal consisted of French fried potatoes, a fried egg with bread and butter served up with a cup of tea. Pancakes on Shrove Tuesday were a special treat once a year. The state school provided every child with 1/3 pint of milk every day. In my twenties Chinese restaurants opened up after the war, and a little later Indian restaurants serving hot chicken curry.

I gave up eating sugar and butter when I was 27 and I have always disliked cheese.

My diet is still much the same except that I eat an omelette for breakfast, and for lunch I have Italian pizza now and again, and I also enjoy Japanese sushi. Now I can also afford to eat beef and chicken, but I still eat small portions to keep my weight around 150 lbs.

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MAGA_From_Heaven's avatar

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

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Former UK resident's avatar

Do you have the data for that?

I am in the country where Natto originates from (I consume Natto regularly) but the post jab results are no different from the West. The research of Nattokinase was done in the pre cvd. My understanding is the type of clotting caused by these jabs is different from normal clotting. (Poss caused by hydrogels?) Could Nattokinase still prevent it ?

I don't solely rely on Natto(kinase) tho. I use other materials to detox.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

There are a number of articles about the benefits of taking Nattokinase when you google this. I take Doctor's Best because I trust this brand.

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Former UK resident's avatar

Thx. Yes The Nattokinase association is advertising hard here too.

If it works for you, then it works for you.

I am not jabbed but am not relying solely on Natto.

Since we don't know yet fully what exactly they put into the jabs. And the excess mortality rate is going up here too.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I have been taking Swanson Vitamins' NAC 600 mg. capsules since 2009. I rely on it because I have not had flu or any Coronavirus' since then. HalleluYah!

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Shelagh Anne Shackleton's avatar

Cardiologist, Dr Peter McCullough published on the benefits of Nattokinase taken on an empty stomach with tumeric/Curcumin,and Bromelain.

He suggests twice daily to break down the strange clots which seem to be more fibrous and dense than normal blood clots after covid vaccinations and COVId infections.I will see if I can find you a link

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Thank You for this info! I believe that tumeric is from curcumin or the other way around. I have it and bromelain but have not been taking them with Doctor's Best Nattokinase. I have been fighting a left leg blood clot since January, 2022.

It most likely was passed to me by "shedding" from a jabbed person I was with at the time. I do believe that it is not a normal blood clot. I did not have any of these before, no family history, and no health problems that would bring it on.

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Former UK resident's avatar

Cheers. Earlier I saw this article (against the cvd virus) if the jab spikes and the virus spikes are more or less the same, Nattokinase might have the same mechanism to tackle.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9458005/

I hoped to see different trends from the west. However the regions where ppl consume loads of Natto still show the same trend as everywhere else. (The Vax rate here is 80+ %. Ppl are still happily going for the 7th shots)

I believe other elements are coming to play. I wouldn't rely solely on Nattokinase for that specific purpose. (It sure helps your gut to be healthy)

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oopsie's avatar

isn't taking nattokinase on an empty stomach very different than taking it with your food? it's an enzyme after all

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Former UK resident's avatar

In theory, probably yes. The point I am making is everyone has a different body makeup and each jabbed person received different concoctions (if you like).

If it works for the person, then the person will see less clotting (but that doesn't necessarily mean the person is immune from other adverse effects. )

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Cumin is an ingredient in Indian currry.

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Former UK resident's avatar

You mean black cumin (oil)? That should help. And some other stuff for detox.

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Shelagh Anne Shackleton's avatar

Also consult your own doctor first as they are powerful blood thinners and so you need to be cautious.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Consulting doctors these days can be hazardous to your health. An apple a day keeps the doctor at bay.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Personally, I will NOT take anything now put out by Pfizer which includes

Eliquis (drug blood thinner) which costs over $600.00 a bottle. It does not even remove blood clots.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Low dose aspirin is an excellent blood thinner that has no side effects, is cheap and you do not need a doctor's prescription. I take one every day with food.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

I don't believe that bit about 'low dose' aspirin not having any side effects. Did a lot of research on this after my heart surgery to replace a faulty valve and six cardiologists wanting me on 85mg aspirin...for life. Not good for stomach or liver. Wasn't aspirin, then brand new, used toxicaly, during the 1918 Influenza pandemic?

For me, I decided on 100mg of Pycnogenol (Maritime Pine Bark extract), every other day. A number of Functional doctors and practitioners (for example - Chris Kresser) have quoted studies and limited research into Pycnogenol doing the same as aspirin...without the side effects. ConsumerLabs also has some research on Pycnogenol .

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

OK that is your choice :-)

I have been taking the low dose aspirin for the last 13 years. I am now 83 and still physically fit. This morning I was out mowing the grass and blowing some of the fallen leaves from the driveway.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Taking Swanson Vitamins' White Willow Extract capsules might be better because this is what the aspirin drug originally came from. Solaray Cool Cayenne capsules will keep our blood flowing. (Best taken after eating.)

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Cayenne pepper is also recommended if you think that you are having a heart attack.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid, a non steroidal anti-inflammatory drug used to reduce pain, fever, and/or inflammation, and as an anti thrombotic.

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mothman777's avatar

Policasanol is said to provide all the benefits of aspirin without any of the risks of harm associated with aspirin such as damaged hearing and eyesight, bleeding gut, etc.

I use nattokinase sometimes or serrapeptase very occasionally, but I have to be very careful with serrapeptase as after two days or more usage it seems to damage my gums for some reason, after I use it I get desquamation of gum tissue and bleeding, though I am not sure if nattokinase does that also, but I get the impression it feels much safer for my body than serrapeptase which has too aggressive an action in my body, unless this is a rare reaction to it in my case, though my capsules are perhaps overly strong at 250,000 units or so.

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aj's avatar

that is a high dose, try emptying out half the powder and see how you do with it. Perhaps more Vit C?

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Thankyou, I use several grams of Vit C a day already, and CoQ10, MSM, NAC, glycine and a few others, I will try what you suggest and see how that goes as regards the serrapeptase, I had bought the highest dose I could find as most of the price seems to be for encapsulating the stuff rather than relating to the actual quantity in each capsule.

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aj's avatar

that is true, but even our favorite supplements may have a drug like effect if taken in too high a dose, or too frequently

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I have read a lot on Vit C that has always been recognized by some alternative doctors to help treat cancer (Linus Pauling), to help the immune system to prevent and fight off flu, colds etc., to help cure sepsis (Dr Makis), to help cure atherosclerotic deposits in the heart (Dr Matthias Rath), and even for use to treat COVID, however, the trees that even the trendiess were saying they were planting to save the planet have now been designated by Big Brother as the latest deadly enemy, with Gates saying 70 million trees must be chopped down and buried, with us intended to follow shortly after I am sure, haha.

The latest fake health news from the establishment is of course not to take 'too much' vitamin C as they want to tell us that it has now been found to make cancer grow, haha, well, they would say that wouldn't they?

Some animals our size make 14 grams a day Vitamin C, Our ancestors used to consume 4 ,000 mg a day Vit C they reckon, so we humans today are thus obviously gravely deficient in general.

But as with most other things, vastly overdoing things with supplements can have some unintended and unforeseen deleterious effects, especially bearing in mind the actual paucity of real information available on the internet.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

81 mg (baby aspirin) is unlikely to harm the liver. Far less likely than ibuprofen or acetaminophen, BTW.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Thank You for your info.. Nattokinase is actually very healthy for our bodies especially since it naturally prevents blood clots. 😄

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Just a Clinician's avatar

I take both. Slightly different pathways.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Bullshit. Aspirin is just too cheap and does not require a doctor's prescription. It is just another big pharma con. I am 83 years old and have taken it every day since my heart attack since I was 70, on the commendation of the heart surgeon who put two stents into one of my coronary arteries.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I hope that you have not suffered harm from taking aspirin. You can take the herb Swanson Vitamins' white willow extract from which aspirin was first derived.

Years ago I took aspirin and then ibuprofen for headaches. Then I started drinking MORE good water. Now, if I have a rare headache I take two Swanson Vitamins Omega 3, 6, 9 oil gels. (flax, borage, and fish) which are also great for the heart! I have heard that stents may not be healthy to have. ??? At 75 I am blessed to not have your particular issues. I post publicly and freely on MeWe. Holistic Healing: EarthClinic.com.

ETERNAL LIFE BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!

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You write"I have heard that stents may not be healthy to have."

Having stents inserted into a coronary artery saved my life, since at the time I was suffering from myocardial infarction, that was very painful and debilitating. That was thirteen years ago and I am now 83 and fit as a fiddle. What other choice did I have ?

Open heart surgery is very painful and debilitating for at least three months afterwards with an 8.7 % chance of mortality and brain damage, The surgeon saws open your rib cage to get at the heart, cuts veins from both your legs used to by- pass blocked coronary arteries.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

I am happy to read that you are doing so well. At that time you may not have had another choice.

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Oh and by the way, when I was prescribed ibuprofen for back pain I was warned to take it easy on the dose, and sure enough I started to pee bright red blood.

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I find that aspirin is a completely safe blood thinner with no side effects. I do, however, take it with food since it is slightly acidic. But then again stomach acid has a pH of 2.0

I also take a daily multivitamin and mineral pill.

Coronary stents are inserted only when you are suffering from myocardial infarction, when one of your coronary arteries are blocked, that can result in death. The cardiologist inserts a catheter into the femoral artery and with great skill and guides it to your heart. This can be seen on a TV monitor placed above your chest. A small expandable metal stent is then inserted into the coronary artery and expanded using a small balloon to open up the artery to blood flow. It takes about an hour and is completely painless. I went home the next day. That was in 2010 when I was seventy years old. Open heart surgery by contrast is painful and debilitating and carries a risk of 8% mortality and brain damage.

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Brutus's avatar

It’s not the acidity in the aspirin I have read many many years ago that the tablet irritates the stomach lining during the time required for it to dissolve

If I’m going to take aspirin on an empty stomach, I will dissolve them in water first.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Alka Seltzer is a good way to dissolve aspirin in water and you get a fizzy drink that is quite pleasant if you have a hangover :-)

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Lecithin capsules are great for lowering cholesterol which causes artery plaque.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

I’ve never heard that before. Do you have a link to any studies? What about red yeast rice? I bought that then read it has negative side effects like a statin but I take CoQ10 with it.

I went to the earth clinic website. Thank you for sharing that link. I sent an osteoporosis study to two of my friends.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Adele Davis (remember her in the '60's?) reported that it does this. I heard that she died from cancer possibly because she smoked. Very Sad! Not everything on EarthClinic.com should be followed like ads for taking Pfizer's Eliquis for blood clots! No. I will not be fooled by Pfizer! 😡

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Lecithin is a mixture of fats that are essential to cells in the human body. It can be found in many foods, including soybeans and egg yolks.

In the diet, lecithin is the main source of choline, a nutrient similar to the B vitamins. Lecithin is converted into acetylcholine, a substance that transmits nerve impulses.

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Frank, thank you for your added info. Lecithin is easy to take in Swanson's gel caps.

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Sunlight is just as good if not better, since the electromagnetic spectrum emitted by the sun has a whole range of wave lengths from ultra violet to infra red and everything in between. And you don't have to consult an expensive medical professional.

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Ely's avatar

Sorry for her and so many others this is happening to.

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I am so sorry about your mom's myocarditis. Pinned.

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What does "pinned" mean ?

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Tacked to the top of the comment section so it shows up first.

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Thank you.

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Brutus's avatar

That was a few minutes well worth the time!

I like what he said about parallel systems a.k.a. figuring out how not to go to the doctor.

One thing I’ve done is spent the last two years studying medicinal herbs and planting about 50 different herbs out there in the yard and garden and collecting them.

A lot of things in your spice rack are medicine folks.

A good book is the encyclopedia of herbal medicine by Andrew Chavalier.

Grow what you can based on where you live.

If you turn off the TV, it’s amazing how much time you’ve got to do something worthwhile.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The sun heats the earth via the electromagnetic spectrum extending across Xrays, visible light and infra red (aka heat) How can you treat myocarditis when infra red light cannot penetrate the body to the heart ? This guy is a bullshitter.

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Faith's avatar

It's not infrared, it's NEAR infrared and it can penetrate.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

So what is the wavelength of this near infrared of which you write compared with infra red ?

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"wavelengths between 710 and 1100 nm are absorbed by complexes of the electron transport chain (ETC) of mitochondria . . . "

"Phototherapy, or laser therapy, specifically using near-infrared (NIR) wavelengths of light (~ 800–950 nm), is a therapeutic modality that is increasingly being utilized by clinicians as a treatment paradigm for acute and chronic musculoskeletal injuries and/or disorders. Specifically, NIR light therapy is currently used by clinicians to manage and/or suppress pain, muscle fatigue, osteoarthritis, inflammation, and improve repair and regeneration for soft tissue injuries."

"Clinical evidence suggests that NIR light therapy is an efficacious treatment paradigm that penetrates deep tissues, particularly muscle, and promotes tissue regeneration . . . "

There is lots of info online about near infrared. This was from just one article:

"Effect of near-infrared light exposure on mitochondrial signaling in C2C12 muscle cells" - ScienceDirect

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1567724913002730

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Sunlight contains all wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum that includes near infra red, although in winter not much is available to the average person. Interestingly, my parents bought a carbon arc sun ray lamp for this reason. Besides radiant heat it emitted UV.

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Faith's avatar

"Sunlight contains all wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum . . . "

But it's "heavy on" the visible and infrared frequencies.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Yes, I know that, but why go to a doctors surgury ?

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John Perez's avatar

"Could [NIR light] penetrate the skull? You bet...!" - https://x.com/rogerseheult/status/1705735195960455314?s=46

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

You might just as well strip off and go to the beach and catch some rays and improve your level of Vitamin D

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Kim's avatar

Thank you for this. I've been on the fence since I've been hesitant that LED lights could prove beneficial. I thought they were supposed to be toxic?

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Visible light is not toxic however it is produced. Besides visible light the sun also emits invisible ultraviolet with a shorter wavelength that can cause sunburn.

The main source of visible light on earth is the sun during the day. One can also generate light using electricity at 112 volts AC current with incandescent wires in light bulbs, or light emitting diodes without producing much heat. Visible light is not toxic, but has many benefits. For humans it will generate vitamin D in the body, and plants grow by using light as energy for the photosynthesis of water and carbon dioxide to produce carbohydrates that are a food source for animals that breath out CO2 the plants absorb through their leaf stomata. Plants and animals have existed in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship for millions of years. Without CO2 all life on earth would die off.

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Faith's avatar

Vitamin D is produced in the skin only from invisible UltraViolet B exposure.

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AMV's avatar

All intentional, but will anyone ever pay?

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KateTheNurse's avatar

This was very interesting. Thank you. I found it ironic that I refused the vaccine but was told I had Covid. Months later, I found out I had moderate cardiomyopathy. I often wonder about the gain of function research that I’ve heard was done with the virus. I wondered too about the mRNA vaccine. I wondered so much that I took it to a friend’s lab. She put it under a very powerful microscope. There were actually little bits of things that resembled a cork screw. We tried to talk to the CDC about this… and eventually anyone who would listen. But never got answers. I was tasked with administering this vaccine to people at one point. I had a couple people who had very severe reactions. Tried to report this through the adverse events reporting system. It was ignored. It is imo , bad practice to push an untested vaccine on the public. The manufacturers should have never ever done that. Testing would have revealed that the vaccine had, well, problems. The fact that it was an entirely new type of vaccine made this even more ridiculous. I feel bad that I gave that vaccine to people. The paperwork that came with the vaccine vials had a bright orange ( I’m pretty sure orange) piece of paper on it warning that the vaccine was untested and there was no guarantee of safety or efficacy. Anyway. I just had a gut feeling about the vaccine. I wish I had been wrong

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Greg's's avatar

What do each of those 4 stats translate to in increased percentage of heart problems math whizzes out there so I can tell my simple minded friends?

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RNJohn575's avatar

This is quite disturbing as I already have stents and 3 COVID shots. I have had more chest discomfort but it does not last long enough to seek additional medical attention

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Steve soehren's avatar

I believe it

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John's avatar

🤣, most people live under a rock, this was known since 2021.

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Theresa Rosen's avatar

You are 100% right.

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Rick's avatar

If selling OxyContin illegally drove Purdue Pharma out of business, Pfizer and Maderna should both be liquidated yesterday. The damage they caused and are still causing is 10,000 fold that of Purdue. And just for good measure the FDA incompetent officials should be charged with murder as well,

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Ramola Lee's avatar

👍🏻

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Mary's avatar

Lies lies lies

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John's avatar

This is known since 4.5 years…luckely NOBODY does something about it😃👍🏽

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Gail Eichler's avatar

Finally, maybe people will start listening to the truth.

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Jeffrey Pitts's avatar

I’m not a scientist, but this study seems really underpowered. I’d like to see one with thousands of subjects in each arm. I think it’s imperative to get this adjudicated with good data.

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Mary Orlowski McFerson's avatar

I am among the vaccine damaged as I was forced to take the Covid vaccine, otherwise I would not be allowed to see my grandchildren. As someone who worked in research most of my life, I had told myself that I was never going to take an experimental vaccine. Kind of ironic, especially since I was supposedly the person everyone was trying to protect! I’m just glad that the truth is coming out and hopefully people will realize just how dangerous the mRNA vaccines are to humans.

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Casper Stith's avatar

mRNA has a built in mechanism of harm, settled science that we seem to have forgotten.

Cytotoxic T cells kill cells expressing spike protein, which mRNA programs them to do…

Duh…

It was by design and we can’t acknowledge the mechanism of harm for some reason.

#tcellarmy

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