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Tamara Larson's avatar

I had the flu vax for the first (and last!) time in 2008. I decided to get the flu vax because my mom was going through chemo and I wanted to protect her. Later that day, while driving with three kids in the car my entire left side went numb. In the emergency room I was tested for stroke, (negative) then sent to a neurologist and tested for two years for MS (negative). At the end of numerous blood tests and MRI’s with contrast, all negative, my primary care doctor leaned in and whispered “if I was you I would never get another flu shot.”

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Igor Chudov's avatar

pinned for now

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Saoirse's avatar

Wow! You have an amazing doctor. My doctor asks me every time if I want the flu shot and is viable surprised I won’t take them anymore. The flu shots don’t stop you from getting the flu. I think I had worse illness because of the flu shot. My children got the flu shot every year and my son had asthma and had pneumonia almost every winter. I also developed thyroiditis a form of hyperthyroidism. My thyroid went Crazy after the shot. Doctors would ask if I had been I’ll with a virus because they could not figure out what was triggering my thyroid. I answered I had not been ill. Doctors never made the connection.

Guess what after some research we stopped taking the flu shot and no more asthma, reoccurrence of pneumonia and thyroiditis.

Unfortunately could not convince my family not to take the mRNA shots. My husband has serious breathing issues but will not believe it is related the shot. Intelligent man who refuses to take a look at the alternative narrative. I have all the studies and information that the heroes of this tragedy are making available to the public but I can’t anyone to even read it. I am praying this narrative cracks soon because there are many who believe more shots are the answer to their developing poor health.

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Mary Ann's avatar

And now they are coming after the babies and small children with an RSV vaxx. Even though RSV was possibly contained in the green monkey cells used to make injectable polio vaccines.

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Nancy's avatar

And mouse protein found in the Swine flu shots, starting the fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue syndrome!(Dr. Mikovits)

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

XMRV is the name of the mouse virus, I think.

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Nancy's avatar

Yes! I always mix up the letters! Thx.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I truly believe some of the reason for all this gender confusion may be on account of BOTH male & female aborted babies being used to formulate some childhood vax. I shudder to think what’s going to happen when kids begins to identify as mice. I sort of think some of the ADHD may be on account of the monkey cells used. Not even joking. I taught school for a few years. They blame environmental issues and food. Ok, sure, but we all know

what goes into our cells is far

more important than just what goes into our stomachs.

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Nancy's avatar

Don’t negate the power of foods! They heal.

Not a bad idea about aborted baby cells used in vaxxes creating some gender confusion. I believe ADHD is overload of toxins including heavy metals!

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Misha37067244's avatar

Can you provide a link to save me the search time please?

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Nancy's avatar

No link. It’s towards the end of Dr. Judy Mikovits(sp?) book, Plague of Corruption..

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JustANobody's avatar

And cancers! Reading Dissolving Illusions.. What an eye opener!

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

And "Turtles All The Way Down" as well.

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Nancy's avatar

😡😡😡

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Lovely. Just what we need, another experimental jab!

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shibumi's avatar

My doctors ask about the flu shot all the time as well. I decline.

In the past, when both of my parents were in and out of the hospital/nursing homes, I got the flu shot. Never had any issue. But then... when I found it was basically a crapshoot ("we think it will be flu strain A this year, take the flu strain A shot, ooops, it's flu strain K") I've opted out. No regrets.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Who can blame them --- if they give out enough flu shots they get an all expensive paid vacation (biz class tickets!) to the annual Flu Shot Conference in the Bahamas.

The conference consists of a 15 minute presentation by a Pharma Rep who finishes up with - now that we've got that out of the way ... it's time to party! And don't forget - drinks are included in the conference package so don't be shy!

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I've been an employee at a (free) lunch paid by my employer. He said that to make it tax deductible for the firm, all that had to be done was discuss, even briefly, something related to the business. I believe the same is true for annual conferences at resorts and similar. As the old saying would have it, the real crime is not what's illegal, but what is legal.

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Saoirse's avatar

Wow… I can’t believe this is reality.

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Saoirse's avatar

Yes really. I can’t believe people actually go along knowingly with the whole Big Pharm cares about your health charade. I don’t know how these drug reps live with themselves. If I can question and research the wisdom of using an experimental shot on the entire world population then those in the business must know. So yes I can’t believe that people are either really stupid or absolutely evil.

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Fain Zimmerman's avatar

My doctor always announces as well: We have the flu shot ready for you! I say No Thanks!!! Then asks again every time. Short memory??

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Joe's avatar

No offense to your doctor, but the "powers that be" constrain him to ask the question under penalty, not to mention the cha-ching every time one is administered. The old iron fist inside the velvet glove with the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head/practice/professiona license.

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Janet's avatar

I just smile and tell the docs I get them (flu) at Walgreens or Walmart and they drop it. Of course I never get them. No doctor has ever argued with me about it. Why begin a hassle by telling them anything. I don’t owe them any explanation. I’m not in docs offices very often anyway. I came from a family you had to be bleeding badly or barely moving before that happened. I’m old. We got goose grease on a rag around our necks when we had a cold. Coke syrup or 7-UP for nausea. And some god awful pine tree tasting glop for sore throats or coughing. Old remedies are still often the best. Have a healthy winter. Find some joy!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Really, does anyone know what these injections do to your body? This has never been and never will be studied. That would burst the "vaccine" bubble.

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joe jacovino's avatar

gary null and richard gale have an article on their progressive radio network website, from 10.31.16 , "vaccines-the toxic science of flu vaccines" www.prn.live

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evh4ever's avatar

Interesting. I had my thyroid removed in my early 30s because the doctor said I had thyroid cancer.

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Saoirse's avatar

I am sorry to hear that. I remember being in the middle of my first thyroid storm. Had no idea why my heart was beating 160 beats per minute. I lost 30 in a month while doing nothing more than sitting. I was told my thyroid activation was atypical. So the family doctor refused to even to blood work. I have a neighbour who is a OBGYN who got me in to see a endocrinologist (so yes I skipped the medical line in Canada which could mean a 6 month to 1 year wait) and sure enough my thyroid was over active. What shocked me is how quick he was to suggest surgery to radiate the the thyroid. I said no I want to try and heal naturally.

Anyway, I foolishly took flu shots for several years and a few weeks after the shot I had a thyroid storm. At the time I 100% believed that medicine would never harm so it took me watching my neighbour’s little boy go from a healthy engaging little 1 year old to sever autism by age 4. Heartbreaking. I started researching autism and found my way to the connection to childhood vaccines.

Most people don’t have the time or have 100% confidence in the system so they don’t connect their poor health with the medication they take.

I hope that more people make the connection but the problem I encounter is the unwillingness of the majority to even consider the idea of any connection despite knowing they were misled.

Opioid Crisis, thalidomide, tobacco, polyunsaturated fatty acids prone to oxidation are examples of the distortion to name a few but people forget. I don’t get it.

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evh4ever's avatar

It was many years before I started to wake up. I think there are many people questioning the Covid-19 vaccines and looking for more information but they are afraid they will lose their jobs or be ridiculed in their communities so they are quiet.

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Saoirse's avatar

I hope people are searching out information other than the official narrative. It’s the only way the insanity of the last three years isn’t repeated.

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Ray Alford's avatar

Yes, from what is very evident now, there is STILL a significant percentage of people duped by this insanity, and worse, the "fire" of truth seems to not be spreading, effecting their positions of stubbornness.

It's very much an enigma in my brain to comprehend.

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

More shots? Lol. There is certainly no evidence towards that. I am in the same boat. Just trying to make good detoxifying food hoping it is enough. I put my foot down when the boosters came out. They no longer go for shots. I’ll have to make some white pine needle tea and put it in the soups I make. They won’t look at any facts. Like just what is mRNA what is a virus actually. They don’t want to know😌 I can only hope some day they wake up.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’m in a very similar boat, here.

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Same here. Don’t know what to do if they decide to take something new. I had put my foot down after 2 shots so no boosters.

I have been trying to explain to them the change from germ theory to terrain theory.

You only need 4 teaspoons of chlorox per quart of water when cleaning to kill all the bacteria. You don’t have to smell it all through the house.

Just like the turn of the century we are learning more about hygiene.

Did Bhill gaits give a date to the next one?

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Mckeekitty's avatar

Today if your primary physician discouraged you from a jab that physician would be stripped of all credentials and hung in the public square.

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Janet's avatar

When docs and nurses asked me recently before hip surgery after an accident if I had Covid shots I looked them straight in the eyes and said strongly NO. They all said “ok” and moved on. They did a rapid test and that was it. No masks required either. Off topic but I need some studies that shows people wearing the CCP muzzles are breathing in fibers and God knows else. I’d like to give a heads up to the poor employees of my local library. Trapped by a idiot director. Almost 3 years.

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ForkInSocket's avatar

Last week I went to the doctor and they asked if I had had the flu and covid shots. I said "nope". They asked if I wanted them and I said no. That was it - no pressure at all. I don't know if the total lack of pressure is because they have some inkling that they are harmful, or because they have been the recipients of pushback from other people who haven't had them yet. I would guess the latter - if the former they probably wouldn't even bother to ask. So, they still have some distance to go I suspect, before they are truly putting their patients' health foremost.

I was sort of looking forward to seeing what I would say if they pressured me.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I went to a doctor a few months ago after cracking a rib skiing... I wanted anti inflams so I could play hockey that week...

The doctor was muzzled in an N-95... she calls up my chart on her PC and she can definitely see I am unvaxxed.... cuz the last time I saw a doctor (trying to get some Hydroxy... no go)... I told her I was going into the bush in Indonesia and needed anti malarials... she offered me the vax ... I showed her this https://pdfhost.io/v/nvrgA~sEJ_VAERS_Heart_Damage_V8 and declined...

She got all uppity on me - and told me to leave.

I wonder if there is a comment on my file 'dangerous rabid anti-vaxxer do not offer Covid vax.... that the N-95er read .... and knew better than to provoke a rabid dog hahaha

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Cindi's avatar

Actually, Fast Eddie, the way the vax keeps getting flogged despite damage & death news pouring out now, I’d guess your chart is more likely to get flagged as “vax @ all costs” if unconscious &/or under anesthesia

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STEVE's avatar

great game hockey played in my youth lost all interest after the nhl went vax crazy. that cracked rib just hurts when you breath right hope you have taped tight

peace brother keep on punching

a song for the times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc_mfqPS2LY

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LJ's avatar

Proud of you.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Excellent - they'll know not to try pushing their garbage injections on me if I ever have to go back... I want them to fear me...

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Avalanche's avatar

I startled my VA doc when she asked if I would take the mRNA shot:

"Not for love, or money ... nor at the point of a gun!"

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STEVE's avatar

I take care of a Vet, help him with daily basics, keep his place clean, shop cook he is a friend, he had went in for a regular check up and they got him the way I found out is I went over 1 day march of 21 he was to sick to get out of bed I reacted to the flu like with high dose vitamins in a less then a week he was up and about again and that is when I found out it broke my heart because I was on to there game long story short 1 day he fine the next no some people worry about shedding I am at the point where I can not dehumanize myself to care about that I rather help care for my fellow bother then live in fear I do not care how deadly any of this BS is on my judgement day I will not be judged for letting my brother down. My dr still pushes this shit on me safe and effective I told well the 5 people I know who had this shot are all doing poorly that includes both my brother in laws. Good for you brother. ps they tried to boost him so far he has refused. If we are all GODS children then we are all brother and sister.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA: Giving veterans one more chance to die for their country.

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STEVE's avatar

Sadly I believe that they are true believes, what I would say is no thank you you can have mine

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I had similar experience. I think most doctors just keep their head down for better or worse. They didnt speak up on covidstan policies and dutifully recommended the jab. Now they dutifully offer it, but keep their head down by not pushing or arguing with patients.

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Patty's avatar

I tell them when any of them threatens to kill me, maybe I'll take a vaccine.

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agent Roger W.'s avatar

Well, that's a little exaggerate. Maybe a dose of remdesivir in his ccoffe and pretend he had covid. Ninja style execution.

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Yukon Dave's avatar

I always ask innocently, how effective in my age group in an RCT was pst years? Then I tell him I don’t believe in witchcraft and will look into the science

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Jason's avatar

You’d be an awesome litigator!

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Mig's avatar

Good one, I would say it if I were you, after your 'treatment', because witches....

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Patty's avatar

I'm starting to conclude this too. Isn't it mentioned in Revelations serious illness is rampant?

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Mig's avatar

Cannot 'like' your comment by touching the heart button, so I made this comment for it

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Ray Alford's avatar

I don't think so. But in Mat. 24, Jesus, who held very little back from anyone asking a question, especially coming from His disciples, prophesied the future of the world; its condition and troubles facing the people, from His time in the flesh among his disciples, to the time of His Return with the clouds of heaven (angels), DID mention "pestilences" in verse 7.

I've often wondered if this C "vaccine" killing machine, was grouped among other less intentional plagues, or it might be just the beginning of a whole string of induced "vaccines". mRNA flu shots next.

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brideofMoshiach's avatar

There is Revelation 16:2 talking about the seven plagues:

"So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image."

Luke 21:11:

"There will be great earthquakes, famines and PESTILENCES in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven."

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Mig's avatar

That's why the doctor was whispering of course!!!;-))

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Glenda's avatar

I’m not “telling on” mine:)!

He is also more free here in a red state and as he’s not an employee of a hospital system-which is a big problem in this country where the majority are.

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Chiadrum's avatar

From now on, I’ll be telling people that I only use needles for Heroin. Thanks for asking.

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brideofMoshiach's avatar

Same reaction!!!

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Cindi's avatar

I can’t think of a doctor (except the vilified famous ones) who doesn’t ENCOURAGE all of it

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

That’s the point....THE WHOLE NAIL WAS HIT ON THE HEAD! My Orthomolecular doctor had a very fine line he had to follow if he wanted to keep his medical license. He was an Orthomolecular doctor and a medical doctor. Plus the government gives incentives to give people shots. Plus pharmaceuticals give lots of gifts. Very hard for an allopath to stay within his personal integrity. I mean these are educated people capable of critical thinking. .....I don’t believe for a moment that they don’t know what they are doing.

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LJ's avatar

That makes their actions even worse, that they are capable of critical thinking.... but don't.

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Mig's avatar

Yes indeed and it is just a matter of time that there will be boxes with stones and rotten tomatoes to throw at the poor honest doctors too

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Nancy's avatar

🤬😡😢

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agent Roger W.'s avatar

"if I was you I would never get another flu shot"

That must be the most often repeated line that doctors say but never admit to have said.

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Copernicus's avatar

I wish I had been willing to go against the grain and say no for our son. I figured (wrongly) that it was a “no harm” type thing. So I let them do it.

Knowing what I now know, I can’t believe I was so gutless. Definitely am heeding my mama gut now though. For shots and other stuff. If my gut says “no,” I am going to listen.

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STEVE's avatar

As a dad of 4 all vaxxed I count it as my biggest mistake that will haunt me till I die

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bagel with a schmear's avatar

I hope you know there are many many things you can do to detox from vaccines. It serves no purpose to look back or to beat yourself up for doing something you thought was best for your children. Look forward with strength and search for the best paths forward to care for your kids now and in the future. I'm sure you will have many more challenges where you can be proud of what you did to protect your children.

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STEVE's avatar

Thanks on that path now, I am not constantly doing but the times I reflex back on it will bring a tear to my eye. I see children as pure innocents our most vital resource the future.

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Copernicus's avatar

I’m sorry. I too wish I had actually given time to the parents that I knew who questioned them. I dismissed them as overly worried. Little did I know. 😞

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Standingstrong's avatar

Me Too!!!!

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Leyla's avatar

don't feel bad. I vaxed my first two without questioning. it was the early nineties and there weren't nearly as many shots as there are now. I have a doctorate in biology but never doubted vaccine "science". My other 3 kids were never vaxed though and have zero health issues- rarely so much as a cold. the first two have eczema and food allergies, even though they got "only" 20 doses before I stopped vaxing in 2000.

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Ray Alford's avatar

Good GRIEF!

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Respect for someone like you that will acknowledge a mistake.

So few are willing to do so - in fact they generally dig their hole deeper and keep boosting

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jDawg's avatar

germ theory is not a lie, viruses are real, but it turns out vaccines usually suck. if youre going into a situation where youre likely to be exposed to a highly lethal pathogen, you likely want a vaccine…

tetanus and yellow fever come to mind

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Copernicus's avatar

Although tetanus also was on a steep decline prior to introduction of the vac. And most wounds are NOT at risk for tetanus. Typically wounds that involve a lot of dirt or horse manure are the ones at risk.

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Jaye's avatar

Horses are a major vector for tetanus. Most folks aren't exposed to horses at the rate they were 100-125 years ago. We also know a lot more about cleaning wounds. AND we have anti-toxin. So tetanus is a "no thanks" here

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Copernicus's avatar

I’m not ready to give up germ theory entirely, although I now understand terrain is more important than germ.

And no, no more childhood vacks for our kiddo. Unfortunately kiddo is old enough that kiddo has already had most of them. 😞. But, no more for the future.

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Michelle's avatar

Same boat here.... kids are 15 and 11. At least I said no to HPV and covid for them. Oldest got first meningitis...

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I was only anti-covid vax ... the MMR when I watched vaxxed recently ... and now I reject all vaccines after this https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/

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Michelle's avatar

I wish I’d realized I had a choice.... I blindly trusted doctors then...

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Just out of curiosity, what made you think you didn't have a choice? I'd really like to hear your explanation. I hope your medical professional didn't tell you it was required?

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DWB's avatar

I think it's more that they did give her a choice, but the choice was:

1. Be a responsible parent who protects her children following modern science and get them vaccinated

-or-

2. Go against medical advice and place your children's lives at risk following sketchy research that says don't use vaccines.

So it's technically a choice, but they present it in a way using emotionally-manipulative wording so that there isn't really more than one good option.

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Michelle's avatar

I think the hospital might have said it was required... It was 11 and 15 years ago, so can’t completely recall... And I hadn’t done the research to know HepB was primarily spread among prostitutes and IV drug users. All I knew was that I was required to get it when I went back to school for a graduate degree...

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Shaming people into vaxxing. Very effective

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Richard Clark's avatar

At many large hospitals, especially teaching hospitals for the medical students and residents, yearly flu vaccine is mandatory for all the staff. Scientifically, they've known for 30 years that the yearly upgraded flu shot doesn't work, in fact has negative efficacy insofar as catching the disease with more severe symptoms, but they still enforce the mandate. Now they want everybody in their control to get a triple whammy with this new "bivalent" booster plus a mandatory flu shot.

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agent Roger W.'s avatar

Do you know about the theory of stupidity of Bonhoffer? I think it's applicable.

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Glenda's avatar

Similar experience here. Neurological symptoms 12 hours later. 6 weeks to recover during which my knee buckled on same side as shot, leg was weak and unreliable (4-5mile/day fast walker until that very day) and both knees swelled...I was told by orthopedic doc: “coincidence”/“bursitis”(no history). I thought “I’ll never get one of those damned things again”, thinking that something specific to the flu shot hurt me. 3 months later after Medicare physical I stupidly got a pneumonia shot and my life was hell for the next 28 months. After the first 6 weeks I saw same doctor again. You guessed it, no “diagnosis” but “coincidence” however I was given steroids and 2 kinds of pain pills. This started just before Covid. So you can imagine the help I didn’t get nor even bother to try. I still have some weird neurological sensations/discomfort and have developed sciatica, but the sharp electrical pains and “grabbing” sensations are gone. My new and common sense physician thinks possibly PEG and likely, Aluminum. I’m tying to detox with high silica waters, known to help remove aluminum. BTW, I am now 71. All this started at 68. Then and now I’m healthy, active again, slender, eat a plant based diet, have a great family and a very good life. I take only a thyroid pill routinely and a bunch of supplements, and am now casting a doubtful eye on that medication. You can bet I’ll never have another one of these “vaccines “ again ever. Not shingles.Nothing.

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freelearner's avatar

I'm really sorry this happened to you. N-acetyl cysteine has been shown to be helpful for neuropathy, and in animal models appears to alleviate sciatica. There's even a small trial in rats (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19389043/) which concludes "The study suggests a neuroprotective effect of N-acetyl cysteine against aluminium-induced cognitive dysfunction and oxidative damage."

How it works: Cysteine availability is usually the limiting factor in your liver's production of glutathione, the body's own antioxidant. Studies have shown that taking NAC in pill form increases glutathione levels in the blood, and that then provides more protection to the nervous system. A typical dosage might be 1200mg to 2400mg per day, if you're interested. (If you get some, and it smells like rotten eggs, you've got the right stuff. Alas!)

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JustANobody's avatar

Where do you get yours from??

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Shingles vax has a FDA black box warning on it for Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Your doctor won't tell you. Mine didn't. Luckily, I stumbled across the warning from reading headlines on a website.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/fda-requires-warning-about-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-be-included-prescribing-information-shingrix

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Janet's avatar

Yeah. I won’t get those either. Several of my friends got shingles after the C jabs. A couple who had the shingles after the shingles shots and C jabs. Crazy.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Most people aren't making the connection between the C jabs and developing shingles. Luckily, some people do and are reporting it to VAERS.

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Janet's avatar

Nobody I know is making any connections. I just want to scream.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I took the over-65 pneumonia shot and suffered with vision problems for 1.5 years and still have balance problems.

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Janet's avatar

Yeah I had 1 pneumonia shot years ago and ok but not going to get them anymore. Which kind are they supposed to protect you from? Viral or bacterial pneumonia. I would think that makes a difference. There are new ones now. Nope. Don’t need it.

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Janet's avatar

My functional medicine doc has me on Low Dose Naltrexone for my hashimotos. It has helped. But I had no real symptoms because like you I take care of myself at 74. I eat a low carb/ketoish animal based diet plus veggies . Walk miles. High Vit D. 8 weeks ago I had a hip replacement after an accident and I’m up and walking pretty much as before. I never get flu shots. Unjabbed. I take a small BP pill but we are working on that. It’s a puzzle as I do everything recommended to get it down. Except the salt myth. I eat plenty of salt. With a unprocessed food diet we need a good amount of salt. The body is excellent at balancing any amount. Glad you are better. Rock on, my friend.

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Glenda's avatar

Right back at ya, Janet!

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Mary Ann's avatar

Dr. Judy Mikovits has a thorough explanation of why we should all avoid these “vaccines” and some of her advice will turn your stomache. Interview on CHD.

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Janet's avatar

I always tell the doc or nurse I’ll get it at Walgreens or Walmart. Then I don’t. Those stores might as well get a huge billboard in front about vaccines. There are signs all over inside. The push is getting much stronger. Uptake down much?🤔🤔.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I will never take another vaccine shot. Never.

Reject all vaccines.

And check this out https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/ (Silent Killers series)

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Glenda's avatar

No worries here! And I will check it out.

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Never had it.

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Ray Alford's avatar

Wow! Thanks T.L. for reiterating your story!

Doctor's know. Nurses have to know too. They're on the front lines. It's GREAT to hear it straight from their mouths.

So sorry about your condition. EAt well, and get sun. plenty of real vitamins through nutrition and exercise. Pray daily, and be happy to be alive for your three dependents.

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USS Nitze's avatar

You should change your medical providers because if something really goes wrong, they are not the doctors you want in your corner. You can find a naturopath or an MD who isn't so cravenly driven by small serial sales like vaccines. If you look at the FLCCC site, you can find lists of doctors and cull from there.

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evh4ever's avatar

I live in Atlanta and notice more and more job postings for the CDC. Have wondered if the rats are jumping off the sinking ship...

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Or they are increasing hires, like the IRS …

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Justin B's avatar

Maybe it’s the new billboards. Lol. Doubt that will help with recruiting.

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Patty's avatar

What is the FLCCC site please?

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STEVE's avatar

ever here of rife treatments I use them often there is alot of them example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfFTcdv0Kls) one of the only thing I use boobtube for

To your health

ps look into immune boosting for your hubby never to late to start diet is so important

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Fauci was saying years ago that Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 was actually caused by a bacterium, not the H1N1 virus. Why all these decades of vaccinating people against H1N1?

Mind you, they always knew, since 1918, that that was not a viral pneumonia. I think it was mostly psychological (the horrors of the War to end All Wars) but that is just my view.

Pure fraud everywhere, all the time.

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Fauci was involved in a study from 2008 that showed most of the deaths were from pneumonia:

"DM Morens et al. Predominant role of bacterial pneumonia as a cause of death in pandemic influenza: Implications for pandemic influenza preparedness. The Journal of Infectious Diseases DOI: 10.1086/591708 (2008)."

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/bacterial-pneumonia-caused-most-deaths-1918-influenza-pandemic

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From DIRTY MASKS

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Matt's avatar

Maybe, but they didn't have antibiotics at that time. In recent years, both my parents have had multiple bouts of secondary bacterial pneumonia resulting from respiratory viral infections that likely would have killed them if not for antibiotics. Antibiotics are overused, but they're life savers when used at appropriate times.

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Message edited for accuracy (publication year) and to provide a link to the press release.

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Tim's avatar

I think Fauci was head of the CDC when 1918 took place.

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soldiers traveling on trains etc.

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Nancy's avatar

He was in charge when the bodies of Spanish flu were exhumed. They died of bacterial pneumonia from wearing masks!!! Fraudci knew the whole time masks were harmful and didn’t work. I’d love to see him hung on the White House Lawn!

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The NIH campus is pleasant enough and no doubt has many sturdy trees. My one visit there was, believe it or not, to visit an Army buddy who was in an alcohol rehab program. As is sadly the case with many such programs, it didn't work.

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Do you know where I can find the specifics of this study? I have heard others mention it and haven't had the time to research it - it sounds fascinating!

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Nancy's avatar

I’m sorry. I read it early in this mess. I’m not great on the net, but it probably could be found somehow! Good luck.

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😂😂

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pandelis's avatar

easy to do, if one owns the media and put in right places all the fauci's of this world ...

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One thing is certain, the Spanish flu had nothing to do with the load of new vaccines they were pumping into soldiers and the civilian population.

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sure even the name is misdirection. spain was the only country where the truth about vaccines and flu was printed in newspapers ... they named it spanish flu ... too much evil.

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What about his killer AIDS vaccines? This bum is a walking death machine.

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The last round of H1N1 I was pregnant. They wanted me to get the specific shot. I didn’t, but I knew several women that did, and a few lost their babies within a week or two (at 12+ weeks). That, also, was swept under the carpet.

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I think what he was saying was..it was not so much that the influenza was killing people per se..it was the virus was weakening the immune system and allowing bacteria to proliferate which ended up killing people.Sort of like most people dont die from influenza per se..they die from a secondary stage which is pneumonia..

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A couple of thoughts:

Dr. Sunetra Gupta posited that the Spanish Flu afflicted the young but the older population was protected having attained immunity from previous viruses.

Also, Nick Hudson of PANDA points out that that at the outbreak of Covid-19, caused by SARS-Cov-2, up to 80% of the world population already had a goodly degree of immunity from it as a result of having been exposed to SARS-Cov-1. In other words, SARS-Cov-2 was not all that "novel" in terms of its virulence.

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I understand both arguments, I heard them in the past.

The truth is that there was no Covid19, there was no Sars2, also there was no Sars1, and also there is no immunity to viral infections. Viral infections are a misconception of reality. It is very difficult to change this because there are many conflicts of interests in all this issue.

If you want further information, go read viroliegy.com

All the evidence to support covid19 and sars2 and sars1 has been utterly debunked. People are stuck in their egos, mortgages, privileges, and the tremendous fear of having to work in the real world. That's one of the reasons why 99% of science is nonsense.

I'm sorry if I'm hurting your feelings, it's not my intention. We are living under the horrible consequences of a huge scientific fraud. Most people use self-deception to cope. Some of us are tired of coping and self-deception: we can do better.

The problem is to convince the majority. Very difficult enterprise. One tactic is to convince the people, and that would, somehow, push the scientists in the right direction. But ultimately it's best to not expect anything from anyone. The cultural change requires institutional change, which requires a huge economic crisis that is being prevent artificially.

I think the Americans and other Westerners will not be able to admit the truth. The trend seems to indicate that in a few decades the Chinese and the Russian scientists will correct this mistake of pathogenic viruses. Perhaps they come up with a better lie, that suits the interests of their empires. But this lie will die as the current empire dies off. It would be better for everyone to simply study the truth and mourn their feelings. But I doubt this is possible for most people.

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i heard DU is primarily a heavy metal risk rather than radioactivity

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That's one possibility. But I like to point to the hypothesis of psychogenic illness (an actual illness, not malingering) because that's the one that receives the least attention.

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Now it's been done again with 5.3 billion people being vaccinated with the Covid shot. More suffering and death.

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Twice I heard that Phoenix area hospitals threatened moms if they didn't vax, saying they'd contact CPS. The mom who got them to back right up threatened a lawsuit for harassment etc. They stopped.

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The potential fallout from Nuremburg II could exceed the death rate of covid and the jabs combined if everyone who is complicit gets what should be coming to them. It would wipe out medics, govt, media and pHarma - It's HUGE!

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One time a vaxtard told me babby could pick up a toothbrush at daycare and get infected 🤡

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Sheesh.

Another cheap sales lie.

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Good for you keeping your baby safe!!!

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i work at a hospital and so many “intelligent” people cannot figure out why I say I will never get a vaccine in my life again. Thanks for the ammo.

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I gave hundreds of flu shots to hospital employees. So many said they were never sicker than after they had a flu shot! And that they would NeVER take another one.

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I stayed away from the flu vaccine because everyone I knew always said “I never got the flu until I got the vaccine”. I mean, it’s a running joke. I guarantee the people reading this comment have heard that exact same statement multiple times, and I always laughed, because it was always a fatalistic comment, one of those “go figure” statements. But you never stop to really think about it… but now I am questioning things, now I am paying attention. Hold the eff up… you got a vaccine, and you got the thing the vaccine was supposed to protect you from… “why?” What did they put in you? Why doesn’t it work? Is it dangerous and that’s why you got sick?

Folks…. We can no longer be “derp derp derp” when it comes to “healthcare” providers telling us what works and what’s healthy, especially when it comes to putting shit inside you.

Because they’re not more informed, once they get their degree and their license, they rest on their laurels and repeat whatever big pharma tells them, use the same talking points CNN gives to us, but somehow their data is “official” because society has designated them the gatekeepers of health.

On a side note, I caught some bug in Africa that almost killed me. I chalked it up to just being in Africa, but I did take a whole slew of “vaccines” about a week before I went…

Sickest I’ve ever been. Got me thinking…

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In long term care facilities (independent and assisted living), caregivers notice that they lose a few old dears each year. Coincidentally after flu vax rollout ...

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I’m so sorry for your losses.

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I am sorry for your losses and for everyone who lost a love one. Don't know how people can live with themselves with blood on their hands.

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Sorry Koki. That had to be traumatic. Glad you are talking about it. They did say they were going to divide and conquer. Separate the spiritual nature of family. We must never let them do that to us again. I know, my husband got the vax, I moved out of our bedroom for a while. I put my foot down when he was going to get his booster.... he and my daughter did not go. Lots of people would not go around those that were vaxed, I wouldn’t let that happen. That’s exactly what they want.

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All the shows on CNN are "Sponsored by Pfizer!"

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Stephanie S's avatar

Not the only ones that are sponsored by big pharma. Fox News and all the others, too.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I have travelled extensively in the 3rd world -- I was in Cambodia in the late 80s... it was a collapsed state - almost no electricity - I ate street food with sewage running down the gutter...

I have been to collapsing Yemen in more recent years... Haiti after the quake... etc etc etc...

I have never had any of the usual vaccines ... in Cambodia I recall a conversation with a Canadian medic/peacekeeper - he told me he had shots of everything before coming to that country and he could not believe I'd not taken anything ...

The only sickness I have ever experienced was food poisoning .. Ethiopia and Yemen... otherwise nothing...

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Very interesting. I think it's Ethiopia where men like to eat raw meat. I saw that in a documentary a few years back, and the next commentary was that the pharmacy best-selling drug was anti-parasite pills. But I bet that's just for fancy, I can't imagine a man rushing to buy deworming pills after he's shared a few cuts of meat with the bros.

People looked healthy, though. Must be because of the non-sedentary life. Moving heavy things around and walking many hours seem to be the most natural detoxyficating thing one can do consciously.

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On a side note, you ever notice how when someone gets sick and seeks alternative treatments and die, how they’re kind of vilified, like it was their fault for being stupid… but when the medical industry kills them, it’s completely acceptable…

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Dawn's avatar

Bingo. I taught my friend what homeopathic to use, and to put hydrogen peroxide in a humidifier to stop her covid from becoming pneumonia. I did it for my husband and myself. She’s overweight and has issues, and she did great.

But she did see a doctor when her pulsox didn’t read right (she thought her O2 was low, turns out it was the monitor device she bought).

The doc excoriated her for using the meds she was (including IVm) and said how dumb she was, but the remedies I gave her were used for hundreds of years, no side effects.

I seriously hate allopathy these days.

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Ditto. Like they don’t know what they are doing.

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I use HP in my humidifier as well as nebulize.

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Look up Dr David Brownstein, nebulize hydrogen peroxide. There are many sites that have his protocol. Don't pay any attention to the naysayers. My husband had covid pretty bad in Jan 2021. I had gotten a desktop nebulizer, as it so happens, a month before in preparation. He took the treatments 3 times a day and said he could definitely feel the difference. Also, he never got a cough, at all, and he is one who always gets a lingering cough after a cold!

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Sorry, forgot to mention standard 3% medical grade.

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Sure: I use a humidifier (cold air) and the ratio is 1/3 Cup to 1 gallon. Some recommend more, but if your are using it more often, I would use less. I put it right next to my bed on a nightstand blowing on my head when very sick. Otherwise, I use just a tablespoon to keep the humidifier bacteria and virus free.

I’m not a doctor, I just follow advice that has been used for many years. My husband got Covid pretty severe and I used it to bring up his oxygen sats and keep it out of his lungs.

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https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/811603

A peer-reviewed publication from Harvard Medical School explaining how and why our bodies produce hydrogen peroxide.

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Not had the flu vaccine even though the UK's NHS bombard me constantly with text messages that its available

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Good for you

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Sophocles's avatar

Me neither. And I worked for the UK’s biggest flu vaccine manufacturer. They hassled us all into getting it, but somehow I was always too busy. Thank God I left, I couldn’t live with the vax worship now I know what I know.

I’ve never had flu or even seen someone with flu with my own eyes. Colds yes, flu no. I know it exists but I’m not sure it’s all that common.

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Janet's avatar

And got another one the next year? 🙄

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Wow! That’s sick, like mentally. Wow. That amazes me it’s like “ well we are all just lab rats here so let’s just see what they want us to do” duuuh

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I wonder if they make money out the scheme. In most cases, follow the money is simplest way to find the answer.

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never give your gp your mobile number. I live in peace.

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Tonetta's avatar

I am forever reminded of the firing squad when i hear the words “are you ready for your shot?”

I have not ever taken a flu shot, or any of the covid concoctions, but i have saved every invitation and other communications i received, just to keep the evidence of how the promises and language changed. I did take childhood vaccines (70 now, so not that many), and a few for travel to india. But otherwise, I stay clear, the less the better!

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This makes me think if a person has to have emergency surgery they will get jabbed while they are 'out of it' no matter how clear they are about their preferences.

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Kat Bro's avatar

I got the same wording in a text from CVS… we have a flu vax waiting for you… you’ll be waiting forever b/c I’m on to your scam!

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Yes...indeed...must have been a witch...next time maybe ask such persons if they are not human or just idiots? Brrrrr

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My grandmother was a seven year-old girl when she got the "flu" in 1918. She was very sick, but survived. No medications available, perhaps that is why she survived?

But in 1991, at age 80, she got a flu vaccine. She fell ill, and was very sick for a while, and had sequelae for the remainder of her time. She passed away in 2003. so about 12 years of weakened heart and lungs, to the point of losing her voice. Maybe that is what the infamous ADE looks like?

Leave vaccines, people! Use opium or cocaine, its former users live longer. Just joking. But consider alternatives to the pseudoscience peddled by your beloved aristocrats.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

So sorry

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Janet's avatar

I use vitamin D3. Works for me.

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NightFlight's avatar

Never had a flu vaxx and never will. I can't remember the last time I had the flu.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

you are smart

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Kevin's avatar

No vaccine is good. They are all toxic to the body. I recommend going to learntherisk.org to learn about vaccine's dangers.

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Linda Hagge's avatar

I am almost 74. Never had the flu vaccine and have never had the flu. Also never had any COVID vaccines.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Good for you!!!!! Stay strong in every way!

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Josh's avatar

thankfully the zelenko protocol should work as great against influenza as it does against covid

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I frankly am not sure if we need anything other than chicken soup

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Zade's avatar

Chicken soup has always been my go to. My vet says it's good when dogs get sick from colds too.

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Sandra Barwick's avatar

And garlic is supposed to help chicken when they get colds too.

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Josh's avatar

younger people like us, sure... but the 70+ year olds that can get seriously ill I think they can better protect themselves with some quercetin

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Mary's avatar

So true and vitamin C, D, Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, Potassium and lots of other antioxidants that actually work. Even several essential oils have their place in good health and healing too.

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Just research who makes the vitamins and supplements which are not regulated by

the FDA. I noticed a lot of vitamins made in China over the past year or so. Make sure they have the UCD logo.

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UCD Logo?

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Mig's avatar

This works against all illnesses I guess! Good job!

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Tonetta's avatar

Finally, after a 2,5 years wait, we got covid. I had zelenko’s protocol written down and medication at home, both hcq and ivm. Forewarned is forearmed after all (got it early ‘21). Took hcq and were on the mend after 2 days. Only tdsted after a number of days though. When we started i figured that it would also help us would we have influenza, since it is an anti-viral. We are 70+ and have been on quercetin and zinc and vits d and c. I guess ghat helped too in us clearing the disease quickly

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Janet's avatar

Where do you get hcq? I have horse meds but even my functional medicine doc can’t get it. USA.

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Susie Olson's avatar

Alldaychemist.com thru the mail from India. Bank draft, no credit card. Good experience with it and many others I know. Takes about a 30-day turnaround

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Customs not checking international packages for meds in your country Susie? In EU they are. Mine (fm far east) was retained and destroyed. Where are you from? UK perhaps?

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Janet's avatar

Thanks!!

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I am not your Other's avatar

FLCCC website has docs around the US that will prescribe.

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Very early on, when the signs were on the wall, i got the horse stuff from ireland (eu - no customs) and some from china (for the woof woof, tried and found safe ;-) )and the hcq from a friend in a mid-american country where it is available over the counter. Also when you visit a country where malaria is prevalent, like india, your doctor will prescribe. Customs in europe, at least in my country, have been ordered to specifically check for these two (safe and known) meds by the health ministry ( that tells you that this is a deliberate “pandemic” plan they are pulling off for very totalitarian control purposes). as soon as these meds were forbidden I knew all was not what it seemed.

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Traditional chicken soup has quercetin, from the garlic:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7146530/#!po=4.50000

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Martha's avatar

Plus the rest of the Zelenko/FLCCC preventative protocol.

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Janet's avatar

Not buying it. I’m over 70. If you are healthy or already weakened why take something that is basically snake oil? Did you look at the charts above? They admit it.

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shasta's avatar

There is a saying in Spain, don’t know if in other countries too:

“Flu is 7 days sick if you don’t go to the doctor; if you go, it is one week”

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Janet's avatar

Vitamin D--all purpose treatment. Free from the sun. Inexpensive from a bottle. Works for me😀

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Yes! Or 40 clove garlic chicken. Everyone has to eat it, though, as you sweat garlic for days. Has germanium!

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🎯🤗💯

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As a hospital employee I had to get flu shots every winter or take unpaid leave if there was an outbreak. Didn't get the flu during those years so I'm not sure if it was effective or if I'd developed a stronger immune system over the years from diet and supplements. I worked directly with patients so was definitely exposed frequently. I don't take them now that I've retired and won't ever again since every new shot seems to be mRNA based.

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Janet's avatar

If you have a working immune system that should suffice. I worked at a library front desk for years with snotty kids touching everything and adults coughing and wheezing in my face. I rarely got anything. You would not believe what would be smeared on DVDs when they came back. Needed a hazmat suit. Lol. Wearing masks all the live long day weakens immune systems I bet. My library s employees are still muzzled 3 years later.

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I went 4 years ago for the flu shot (there’s a reason it’s called a shot and NOT a vaccine) and when the nurse handed me the consent form and I read that a possible side effect was Bell’s Palsy I promptly handed the form back to her and walked out of the office.

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As a doctor I was required to get the influenza vaccine every year. And every year I contracted influenza. So, from first-hand experience I can attest to the fact that it never worked. And I know of some coworkers who actually contracted influenza more than once in the season despite the vaccine (or, perhaps, because of the vaccine?)

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccine-failures-part-3-influenza-vaccination/

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Is there anyone who offer fake vaccines? No vaccination but a record of such?

I always supported that for regular people in the context of the evil Covid vax.

(I will not apologize for it -- it is my deeply held conviction)

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Akszeinga's avatar

In Poland, lots of people had those. You pay the pharmacist or doctor and they squirt it in the trash. People still remember how to deal with commies.

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here in nyc most of my friends have a fake vaxx card. they're easy to photocopy. somebody gave me one for my birthday.

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Kat Bro's avatar

I’m in HC and had an amazing MD that faked it for me. I asked him “Do you get it?” “No.” He said. “We are both healthy ppl and I don’t want it. I’ll pay you to squirt it in the trash.” Done!

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The problem is that by getting a fake card, you're still allowing their narrative to go on. We all need to resist.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

true that. either i lost the one i got or i tossed it

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I'm not personally aware of anyone. But, I certainly agree with you that there is nothing to apologize for. I wouldn't fault anyone who either provided or received false documents. I am a strong proponent of personal liberty and opposed to coercion of any kind. Resistance to coercion is moral.

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Rosemarie's avatar

When I stopped getting the flu vaccine 14 years ago, I also stopped getting the flu!

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When I was in the military they gave it to us every year, including the failed 'FluMist' live flu intranasal experimental product. In basic training after receiving many shots including a mystery shot hastily arranged in a chapel with no documentation or explanation, I was extremely ill and spent 3 days in the sick barracks.

If I do get the flu, it is always worse for me than for my wife, who never received flu vaccines. One year after my military service was over, I crawled to the the bathroom to throw up because I was so weak.

I assume that years of getting the flu vaccine has left my immune response to flu virus screwed up.

I also have some minor, chronic health issues that I suspect are autoimmune and therefore possibly caused by vaccines.

Knowing what I know now, I would not enlist again solely to avoid the vaccines. Giving so many of them out during basic training, when the body is already severely weakened by lack of sleep and extreme physical exertion, is insane. Then if you are going overseas they give you smallpox and other bonus injections (typhoid iirc) or when we were deploying there were dose after dose of anthrax shots.

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My husband is retired navy. They always scheduled “out days” after the round of flu vaccine because they knew everyone would be sick. The irony is the flu shot was to decrease their out days, but instead, they were guaranteed out days.

The cdc has experimented on the military using different adjuvants that had not been tested. It’s been extremely harmful, and no one seems to care. I won’t let my kids join the military even though we have a very long deep history of service in our families. I refuse to let them be science experiments.

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Good for you keeping your kids safe!

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I've seen some vets do regimes of sauna, sweat, rinse, re-mineralize/hydrate, and sauna...cycle and reduce their body loads of various substances significantly. One guy paid for tons of tests as he did it, so we could see a difference. He'd been in about 25 years prior, so it was a surprise.

Since then, I've added the same regime and it has helped resolve lingering issues -- messed up shoulder, sports injuries, etc

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