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POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT: Mentioning El Gato Malo or Eugyppius in comments is forbidden.

===> Just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <===

Seriously, what would YOU say *if* I made this my policy? It is the same thing as what Elon did.

MAJOR EDIT: many people expressed well reasoned disagreement. As I believe that they deserve to have a voice, I added "The Opposing View" section to my article, that enumerates their points. I also changed the title of this post to DEBATE -- so we all understand that ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

PS as of an hour ago, Elon Musk is running a poll whether he should step down as Twitter CEO. So far YES is winning. Added to my article.

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Igor are you getting attacked like Elon? Have you spent 44 bill on a substack? Do you own substack? You compare apples with oranges. If you spent 44 bill u would do the same if it is crucial to survival of the company you purchased. Elon lost already advertisers should he bleed subscribers to the lefty competition like Facebook etc. Really? You know they doing EVERYTHING TO DESTROY HIM!

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I respect your opinion. But I disagree. I do not own the entire substack. But I do own my substack. People mention other substacks or their websites in comments. I always allow that. Not allowing it would decrease the value that people get from it.

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Well as I said you didn't put 44 bill into your substack account. Elon is very obviously fighting a cooperate war. Yes with the free speech absolutism he kinda made a very big claim now he sees its not so easy. But if my subscribers would use me to leave to a nasty competitor I would shut it down too so. They can still go to Facebook but you have to use other means than advertise directly on Twitter. Maybe in general this is not necessary or should be done but elonscsituayion is unique. He is being ganged upon as seen in the doxxing. And its typical of the left to use our idealistic belief to use against us which usually always works but not with Elon. He knows when the view is a stone around his neck. Conservatives have a fault. They sink with that stone every single time.

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Whoopi Goldberg is a stone around the neck of THE VIEW. It will be interesting to see if she is put on horse tranquilizers to keep the lawsuits down. This has nothing to do with the current discussion, but it was fun for me to type this.

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I love free speech platforms.

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Can't say I agree with much I've seen her saying as of late. But she looks terrible. I wish someone near her would step in with some hard truths. Don't have to agree with her to hope she doesn't die soon.

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As an Adult Protective Services' worker, I once had a client who weighed over 800#. With a group of nurses, I attempted an intervention to get her into a bariatric treatment center. We were unsuccessful & six months later, when she topped out at 900#, she had a heart attack and died. Whoopi has at least another 200# to go.

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To me, it's also like going on Amazon, reviewing a product and writing "I actually got this product at Walmart, not at Amazon. Walmart."

I can see his point.

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And yet, I have done exactly that. I bought an item at Fanatics that was garbage, but it was also sold on Amazon and I was allowed to post a message about the product on Amazon.

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Yes, it’s like if U-Haul flooded California with trucks—way more would leave! But there’s always shortage of trucks, so you have to be super- motivated and flexible.

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You have mentioned others as well. I admire that except I have become their reader as well as yours. There is so much infornation out there. Thank you as always

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Of course he is not out of his mind. He has already been threatened by these platforms.

Who really runs these platforms. Why would we want to support them?

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He should've just let it "ride". From a biz perspective I would understand in a normal world.

Times like now are not normal.

It's a lack of judgment. He will regret the error.

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Do you own a 44 billion business? Do you have the exit data how many subscribers he is bleeding daily. I think Elon collected this data and analyzed it to prevent loosing subscribers.

They said twitter is bleeding money and was a failing business money wise before he purchased it. Probably just got bribe money but that's it. I think he wants to convert it into a money generating business without government bribes. Regarding the subscribers issue with unable to directly link. You can say look me up on other platforms search me you find me. Is a direct link necessary really? Anyways I dont think its an error but time will tell.

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Why did Elon pay 44bill for a company worth 5? Musk is NWO start to finish. “Twitter” will “X” where social biological and physical identities will be stored. Your ESG score will be there when you log on to see how many carbon credits are available that day. He’s not your friend.

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Possible. But for now I see government being quite irritated with Twitter so for now I am cautiously in wait and see.

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I added "The Opposing View" section to my article, that enumerates several disagreeing readers' positions -- as I believe that these opinions deserve to be seen and considered. Also added DEBATE: to the title

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The world has been fighting the suppression of free speech and selective reporting of the truth since the invention of the printing press. The problem now, is leftist Democrats with help from the tech giants have converted half of the population into apathetic drones. If they're told to stand on one leg and cluck like a chicken, or inject an unproven substance into their body, they will gladly comply. I realize censorship of opposing views is still censorship but content on facebook, instagram and google is pure indoctrination and the general population isn't getting any smarter. Sooner or later the good guy's and gal's will have to stop bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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Thanks Igor-I get the feeling that you deeply believe in democracy, freedom of speech, the bill of rights, and the American way. Many of the great believers in American democracy have had years of experience overseas. I got that way after spending over a decade living ( happily) in East Asia.

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I love the United States, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the politeness and general honesty.

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That's not going to help Twitter survive.

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Hello Zade, l would argue differently. Twitter must distance itself from other Social Media Platforms in order to fulfil its “agreement” to promote Free Speech, one example. Many people, including myself, have returned to Twitter and am visibly seeing more open discussion .. l do not believe that Twitter needs to “embrace the Agenda and the darkness of fact checkers” to survive - l think quite the opposite - time will tell ..

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You are not making sense. Twitter has stated support for free speech. That means Twitter must offer free speech. If other platforms don't like it they can distance themselves.

Twitter does not walk the talk. Many cases where it is taking away freedoms.

Sure he has pressure or evil motives, but lying about things is not a good look.

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That is a good thing. For you too you'll see sooner than I think

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He staged a coup together with USA in order to get hold of Bolivia's Lithium deposits. Musk is a war criminal

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That's silly, Yal. He obviously didn't buy this, uh, "troubled" asset to make money with it. And it's mostly not his money, either. (Even "his" money isn't really his, but I digress.) Elon's just a front man. You don't have to look very hard into his history to understand that.

So, it's quite possible that he's just doing a controlled demolition here, on behalf of his faction.

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Do you talk to people like that in real life? You sound four. Hence why most of us just zone out for years. Grow up or get out.

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That's not going to help Twitter survive.

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Good because that will help good people to survive

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Yal NA I respect your opinion and passion behind your beliefs. It is always good to check facts before letting yourself becoming overwhelmed with emotions, beliefs and perceptions rather than facts. Facts are Fact. Your statements are not based on FACTs. Time to refresh your knowledge and the basics of critical thinking.

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You make Zero sense. Which facts am I mentioning incorrectly or not considering? How am I overwhelmed with emotion?

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It might be helpful having a conversation with your Psychologist or Emotional Intelligence/Personal Growth Coach. Some levels of competencies can only be achieved with the professional guidance. It is almost always a must when a person has a deeply rooted "blind spot" preventing them for having insights into their own deeper self, self sabotage mechanisms, and overall emotional intelligence. Understanding Facts vs fiction, judgment vs belief, perception vs facts, 'feeling' vs "thinking" etc is the starting point for accessing capacity to think. Check out Marshall Rosenberg Nonviolent Communication. It is a great starting point. My suggestions come from a place of care and respect for you. Do what you wish with them. This is the end of my communication with you. All the best.

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Nothing i said merits this kinda response of you, it seems overkill and possibly a generic bot response. Dont pretend to care about me you don't know me and recommendations of a doctor/psychiatrists are just insults. How about instead of this you would have answered my questions in detail. But you seem like an anti Elon bot. This rather generic comment is probably used all over on substack to intimidate people with an anti-narrative view. Proofs Elon is indeed attacked. And Igor is handing the left a win by complaining.

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It’s amazing how you respond to Yal NA accusing of emotion vs fact, and then provide not a single fact yourself. In fact, you then engage in a personal attack, proving you had no facts, just the ability to try and “sound” intelligent citing personal coaches and perhaps copying a page off a website about debate, forgetting to apply it yourself.

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You have a good point, yep. :-)

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Always fair minded and open to hearing all sides in a debate. I appreciate this about you, Igor Chudov.

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is el gato on twitter yet?

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not that I've seen but the Freedom Fridays are picking up steam

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Excuse me? FREEDOM days??!! To Elon okay, but not to you my dear

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that refers to when people get reinstated, a new wave of them every Friday.

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Not yet- I checked yesterday.

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I'd ask why, ask for a strict definition of what you mean, and then decide whether to continue reading and writing here, or to stop.

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Heil Igor!

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Very much the SAME THING.

Too much wacky tabacky or maybe he really thinks he has replaced God in your dystopian post-Covid Idiocracy once lauded as a "democratic model" that all the world should aspire to becoming?

Coming To America was much more than a Neil Diamond hit.

Dunno really.

The majority of the world put up with the batshot crazy Little Elf et al, Dementedly Slow Joe, Bill Gates Of Hell and ALL THEIR CRAPPOLA for nearly 3 years, after all.

What's a little more Supreme Ruler of Twitter Complex?

#NoAmnesty 💔

#DoNotComply ✊

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i think you blocked my plug :(

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thanks for the approx 50 subscribers i got through senseless plugging in tour comment section :)

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I am okay with it as long as nobody overdoes it and your comments are pertinent

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lol- well that would be rough

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Ok, I’m going to go out on a limb and say- the idea that Musk is supposedly proposing is that all of those linked accounts to other social servers should be able to have an account on Twitter. But the reality is, that obviously isn’t the case. The Gato Malo example being a good one (Andrew Bostom, Emma Woodhouse, etc.)

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BTW mentioning a name is not the same thing as a complete link. One of the differences is when you click on a link it opens up a page right away. A name is not underscored automatically and has no programmming function. Tell me where Elon forbids mentioning names.

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If you announced the above, I would ask for specific reasons as to why. Regular people don’t have access to Musk. Still, I don’t think it’s a good business move to do that.

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It's your blog, I'd do it your way. I'm not here to praise eugyppius.

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But what if I wanted to share a related link to a post by Eugyppius? I am finding it hard to believe how much support this dictator policy is getting.

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They can be dictator in their own house, just as you can in yours,

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It just isn't free speech - turning on a dime.

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No speech is free. It always has a price.

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Eugyppius has a Twitter account AND it is as easy as pushing a couple keys to repost his Substack.com essays on Twitter. At least it was yesterday.

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Metaphor by Igor, not specific example as the censorship did not mention Substack links, only Facebook and some social media. Trump's for example. Tweeting about political censorship while doing political censorship....

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I come to bury eugyppius, not to praise him.

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But Igor has said he would forbid us from mentioning Eugyppius, and surely Igor is an honourabe man!

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:) Surely he is an honorable man.

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Who's eugyppius?

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an absolute legend. find his stack

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A writer on Substack, among other things.

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EL Gato Eugyppius

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Pretty sure he tweeted a month ago that he was going to find a CEO to run Twitter. Of course, he would do that. He was never going to be the long-term CEO of Twitter. But, as it's owner, he's still going to have the final say in what the CEO does.

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He may know that the government is truly manipulating the other social media outlets and does not want it on Twitter. Once you post a link that link can be changed to anything. I would not doubt the government would change the links especially after the evidence of government censorship is mounting....

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I thought linking is what the www is all about...

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No not if you cannot control it. The original link can be totally altered to be something different from the original person links purpose. For instance, the original link can say there are many side effects pf the jab but it can be altered to say the jab is the best thing ever and the original linker would never know. This is dangerous. Elon does not want innocent posts later turned into weapons. The original purpose of www has been hijacked by the governments, etc. It is not the same place as in 2000.

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Interesting. I had no idea a link placed out there could be changed. Scary idea. Maybe Musk is trying to protect things. I still don’t trust him but.....

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You have to ask Al Gore that question. 🤭

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Al Gore is the inventor of the internet and global warming and is a Nobel Laureate who happens to be Conveniently Untruthful on many issues.

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DARPA , DOD's exotic weapons maker, invented the internet. It is responsible for inventing the "vaccine".

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And this is just going to make people dump Twitter, if they haven't already.

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Not sure what you mean by ..."Once you post a link that link can be changed to anything. "

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The original link can be edited to something you may not like. Your post is still pointing to that link. You do not own the link and it is open to change by the owner or censor. It is not permanent like a paper document. Most people are not aware to that.

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But isn't this true with every link we ever create to any site anywhere on the Internet?

And, hasn't it always been this way?

There's never any guarantee the content on a shared link will be the same tomorrow. In fact, there's never any guarantee the link will even be working tomorrow.

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Agree, if the solution to that problem is banning the practice of linking, then the cure is far worse than the disease. Just like...the mRNA vaccines

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Well said ~ and thank you, SEF. Thought I was missing something here.

Guess I wasn't . . . .

(If it looks like a duck....)

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yes, excellent point. Why should anyone be held to some personal responsibility for posting a link? This gotcha society is not healthy.

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As in, if the owner of the page you linked to changes the content on the page? That would be the only way, correct?

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Or a censor could change it on some platforms. I have seen articles that say the government was given backdoor censor abilities to Twitter etc.

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Thanks for clarity. Did not know. Implications of that are quite overwhelming to consider.

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What if you do not post it as a link (e.g. by replacing the "." by "-dot-").

Twitter with their new policy forbids doing that to bypass the sites they banned.

But doing so would avoid redirecting the link to a web-page that you do not like.

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Government is trying to built another Twitter which is under their controll or they found another company to do that. Surely they will try to move everybody to the other platform.

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If government social media is run as well as the DMV in my state, it will be very popular! They will have to change the term tweet to something catchy like groan.

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The official reason makes enough sense, just dealing a blow to competitors. Any web site can change its content.

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This appears to be a knee-jerk reaction about control and money. He probably saw a lot of the leftists leaving for mastodon and didn’t want to promote those accounts.

Could there also be a back door way for 3 letter agencies to follow the accounts back into Twitter, after he just tried to cut the proverbial gordian knot with the spy agencies? I mean if the agencies are present in Facebook (which they are) can they then follow back into Twitter by linked articles and spy on Twitter that way? It’s sometimes hard to discern all of the issues right away.

For sake of clarification, I’m completely neutral on Elon. He’s a businessman and obviously intelligent, but I think his neuralink stuff poses huge ethical dilemmas.

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Very interesting thoughts!

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Everything about Elon Musk is in my opinion a huge ethical dilemma, and I am really flabbergasted that about everyone here trust the guy??!!! Come on!!

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Anti-Christ.

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Competely Agree. You're speaking my language. That meeting with Treasonous Apple Tim earning his trust and changing his mind is NOT indicative of loyalty to 'The Constitution' and most surely muddies the waters. Confusion is one of the preferred tools of evil and those deliberately creating confusion to HIDE BEHIND are NEVER TO BE TRUSTED.

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I expect the TLAs have a back door and he is trying to find it and close it. Maybe (if you believe Musk has good intent). But he surely has spies still there.

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Charlotte, I really don’t know what to make of him: on the one hand hailed as savior of free speech but throws a few lefties off but then reinstated them because a bunch of lefties on Twitter “voted” for it. On the other is a huge proponent of things meant to enslave like AI & electric cars that the grid is not ready for yet. Supposedly wore some weird costume when he could’ve chosen anything less controversial. I’m reserving judgment for now (not that my opinion matters much) but he’s definitely no savior until proven w/ actions & not just words.

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That's a gross simplification of what happened. And I'm neutral on him too, for the record.

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What is the deep dive? He’s an enigma & motives are very hard to discern @ this stage

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Neuralink is another fantasy along the lines of “Hype-Our-Loop” and self-driving trucks: delusions of a pot-addled brain.

“Hm, it’s harder than I thought”: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/5/22563751/tesla-elon-musk-full-self-driving-admission-autopilot-crash

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It is a bit of a fantasy, and it is not just Musk working on it, other companies are ahead of Musk on the project but everybody likes to dump on Musk and ignore everyone else. Transhumanism? Come back in 50yrs or more and maybe that will be a worthy discussion. Right now you have government agencies on a $100B binge of designing & releasing deadly chimera viruses with ZERO repercussions. Let's focus on that.

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Check out ChatGTP- that’s reality and scary as Hell.

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The hype may be scary as hell. But it's just a bullshit generator.

https://aisnakeoil.substack.com/p/chatgpt-is-a-bullshit-generator-but

And, anyway, it had little to do with Elon. Many of his projects have been flimsy frauds. This Twitter thing may well be another one.

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I got my account restored on Twitter after being banned for vaccine danger truth speaking. My 10 followers are pumped.. lol

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Honestly, what company WOULD allow advertising of competing firms on the site that they own unless they were being paid by that other firm? That's where affiliate marketing comes into play. If you want me to advertise for you on my site, it will cost you. Has nothing to do with "free speech" in my opinion. It's just a smart business practice.

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That's an excellent point.

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Calling it “advertising” is a stretch.

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What you're forgetting is that on Twitter as on FB and the other social media hell holes, you're not the customer, you're the product.

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touché

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Elon Musk To Start BRAIN CHIP HUMAN Trials

Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save - Psalm 146:3

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/elon-musk-to-start-brain-chip-human

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But I had my brain removed 12 years ago.😎😎😎 Just ask anyone on substacks

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LOL again!

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Check in mail. You're a genius, btw. I say something hysterical, 1 in 10k get in .

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Or is about everybodys brain removed except you and I and a few other people... and than is my question, if this is so, who is punished the most? The brainless? Or us suffering the brainless?

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You're on the path!

Those who see always suffer most... Until the end.

I worry about vaxxed... They are clueless

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Would clear lots of things up to me btw

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