I've posted about this before. I know someone who managed some of the c0vid trials for Pfizer, and kind of talked to her about the vaxx. It is not typically a good conversation, and she gets... well, let's just say unpleasantly wound up.
As a person in Big Harma, this is her take on all of it: if you get c0vid and are not vaxxed, you wi…
I've posted about this before. I know someone who managed some of the c0vid trials for Pfizer, and kind of talked to her about the vaxx. It is not typically a good conversation, and she gets... well, let's just say unpleasantly wound up.
As a person in Big Harma, this is her take on all of it: if you get c0vid and are not vaxxed, you will die. End of story. There are no other treatments outside of those offered in Big Harma. If you say anything about the vaxx (and I'm guessing the pills) she gets really, really hostile and accuses you of being NOT HELPFUL and wanting people to die. In her mind it has been proven that NOTHING else works but Big Harma solutions. We must give people these untested solutions, or they will die of c0vid. End of story.
Yes, I know. This is someone I've known since I've been a teen. As this goes on, I don't know how long I will be able to keep her as a friend. Thankfully, she lives on the other side of the country, and we rarely see each other. Also... just so everyone knows, she is now managing trials for mRNA flu, pneumonia and shingles vaxxes.
this is so amazing! has she not come across any people who had covid BEFORE the vaccines were even developed who lived and were just fine? who later said "it was just like a regular flu, no big deal"?
i listened to a podcast This Week in Virology throughout the pandemic. at the end of every episode, they read and answer e-mail questions from listeners. this woman wrote in asking how she could convince her grandmother in Ireland to take the vaccine.
Rich Condit, an emeritus professor from the university of florida, said (and this is a verbatim quote) "Tell your grandmother she either takes the vaccine or she gets covid and dies!"
i found that answer very NOT HELPFUL at all. i knew at that point several people who had had covid and got over it just fine, other people who had a very hard time but recovered, people who had completely asymptomatic cases and wouldn't have ever known they had it if they hadn't been tested. i also knew people who died from it.
so when Rich Condit presented this dire either/or choice, i thought "these people are nuts."
months later as the vaccines proved to be not so great, Dr Condit changed his tune some and, in answering another email from a listener, conceded that eventually everyone would either get vaccinated OR have natural immunity from a recovered infection. i suspect he's wrong even about that. i'm sure there are some people out there with such robust immune systems that they can walk into a room of covid and never get it at all but i'm not a PhD virologist so what could i possibly know?
BTW, i also happen to know the one person in the USA (NJ) who's doctor got a compassionate use waiver from the FDA to try a placental stem cell preparation from Israel on him when he'd been 40 days on a ventilator and had little hope of recovering. his distraught wife signed the consent forms and he received 15 injections into his abdomen of the stuff. a few days later, they wheeled him out of the hospital to thunderous applause and took him to rehab where he did so well, he was sent home in 2 weeks. at the time, there were local newspaper and television stories about him, interviews with his doctor, etc and then suddenly- poof- it seemed to vanish. i have been dying to know why.
in fact when another friend's brother- a NASA documentary film producer- was in Johns Hopkins on a vent with covid and very near the end, my friend asked his brother's doctor about the stem cell treatment. the doctor was shocked and said "you know that guy?" he had heard of this patient- the ONLY one in the entire country- and what were the odds that his current patient's brother knew him? but the possibility of using it was never seriously discussed and my friend's brother died. i would love to see this investigated. i had read a small study on it from Israel on maybe 7 or 8 really ill covid patients and i believe all but one recovered fully. i guess the push to make vaccination the one and only viable option killed this promising treatment and by extension, all the patients who didn't get it
Oh, she knows people who recovered from C0VID without vaxxination. She did. She knows I did. My husband got it from me, we ran out of quercetin/zinc, and he ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. And was home in two days after treatment with antibody plasma/ steroids. BTW... this was all before the vaxx rollout.
That is why I tend to say "the mass formation psychosis is strong." Also... when you make your living hammering, everything is a nail.
I've posted about this before. I know someone who managed some of the c0vid trials for Pfizer, and kind of talked to her about the vaxx. It is not typically a good conversation, and she gets... well, let's just say unpleasantly wound up.
As a person in Big Harma, this is her take on all of it: if you get c0vid and are not vaxxed, you will die. End of story. There are no other treatments outside of those offered in Big Harma. If you say anything about the vaxx (and I'm guessing the pills) she gets really, really hostile and accuses you of being NOT HELPFUL and wanting people to die. In her mind it has been proven that NOTHING else works but Big Harma solutions. We must give people these untested solutions, or they will die of c0vid. End of story.
Yes, I know. This is someone I've known since I've been a teen. As this goes on, I don't know how long I will be able to keep her as a friend. Thankfully, she lives on the other side of the country, and we rarely see each other. Also... just so everyone knows, she is now managing trials for mRNA flu, pneumonia and shingles vaxxes.
this is so amazing! has she not come across any people who had covid BEFORE the vaccines were even developed who lived and were just fine? who later said "it was just like a regular flu, no big deal"?
i listened to a podcast This Week in Virology throughout the pandemic. at the end of every episode, they read and answer e-mail questions from listeners. this woman wrote in asking how she could convince her grandmother in Ireland to take the vaccine.
Rich Condit, an emeritus professor from the university of florida, said (and this is a verbatim quote) "Tell your grandmother she either takes the vaccine or she gets covid and dies!"
i found that answer very NOT HELPFUL at all. i knew at that point several people who had had covid and got over it just fine, other people who had a very hard time but recovered, people who had completely asymptomatic cases and wouldn't have ever known they had it if they hadn't been tested. i also knew people who died from it.
so when Rich Condit presented this dire either/or choice, i thought "these people are nuts."
months later as the vaccines proved to be not so great, Dr Condit changed his tune some and, in answering another email from a listener, conceded that eventually everyone would either get vaccinated OR have natural immunity from a recovered infection. i suspect he's wrong even about that. i'm sure there are some people out there with such robust immune systems that they can walk into a room of covid and never get it at all but i'm not a PhD virologist so what could i possibly know?
BTW, i also happen to know the one person in the USA (NJ) who's doctor got a compassionate use waiver from the FDA to try a placental stem cell preparation from Israel on him when he'd been 40 days on a ventilator and had little hope of recovering. his distraught wife signed the consent forms and he received 15 injections into his abdomen of the stuff. a few days later, they wheeled him out of the hospital to thunderous applause and took him to rehab where he did so well, he was sent home in 2 weeks. at the time, there were local newspaper and television stories about him, interviews with his doctor, etc and then suddenly- poof- it seemed to vanish. i have been dying to know why.
in fact when another friend's brother- a NASA documentary film producer- was in Johns Hopkins on a vent with covid and very near the end, my friend asked his brother's doctor about the stem cell treatment. the doctor was shocked and said "you know that guy?" he had heard of this patient- the ONLY one in the entire country- and what were the odds that his current patient's brother knew him? but the possibility of using it was never seriously discussed and my friend's brother died. i would love to see this investigated. i had read a small study on it from Israel on maybe 7 or 8 really ill covid patients and i believe all but one recovered fully. i guess the push to make vaccination the one and only viable option killed this promising treatment and by extension, all the patients who didn't get it
Oh, she knows people who recovered from C0VID without vaxxination. She did. She knows I did. My husband got it from me, we ran out of quercetin/zinc, and he ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. And was home in two days after treatment with antibody plasma/ steroids. BTW... this was all before the vaxx rollout.
That is why I tend to say "the mass formation psychosis is strong." Also... when you make your living hammering, everything is a nail.
sadly (or happily), we are all going to have different, better friends by the time this is over
Can you push her off a bridge?