This study looks very good. Ivermectin as a prophylactic appears far superior to vaccination.
Even if the benefits of Ivermectin were unclear (I don't think they are at this point), the risks of this drug are so vanishingly small as to make it worth trying for anyone at high risk of covid. I feel the same way about other repurposed drugs with long track records of safety. Fear of prescribing Ivermectin off-label clearly doesn't come from physicians' safety concerns-- so what (or rather who) are they afraid of?
Just look at Uttah Pradesh in India.Go to google, then covid cases, then India,Uttah Pradesh.
Bingo.They implemented Ivermectin , which is an ionophore ( opens the cell) and has other modes of action, to allow Zinc to enter which inhibits viral replication. This is what Dr. Zelenco used with Hydroxychloroquine,same idea,think Zinc losenger.They treated everyone early with a package of Ivermectin,Vitimin D,C And Zinc ect. 227 million people and virtually no cases or deaths as of mid july 2021 .I just want to say a few things to everyone.
1 ,The PCR test is Useless.it is not a diagnoses of anything.A fear weapon.No science involved!
How many people died with Flu,or a Bronchitis infection that were thought to have a covid infection? Treated too late.The Flu and Bronchitis have not dissappeared.They were on holiday.Really!
2, Natural immunity is broad,robust and long lasting, unless you take a vaccine.
Has anyone here ever gone out after having a does of the flu ( which can be very nasty and deadly) and needed to get vaccinated every 3 months or less?
We have an "IMMUNE SYSTEM" Or at least most of us had.
3, The mass deployment of vaccines during a Pandemic will lead to primming the virus to mutate
and has caused ADE in the people who have been vaccinated.
4,Cheap, early, effective outpatient treatment is all that was ever needed,but that did not suit
the agenda of the few! This has never been about doing the right thing,in the right way,
for the right reason,The total censorship and lack of any debate,in any area from the start,
can only lead, a resonable person to conclude, that this has been by design!
There is an obscure publication called The Desert Review which has run numerous stories on Ivermectin in general (they just did one on the Andrew Hill issue you mentioned) and Ivermectin use in India. Yes the pandemic is pretty much over in Uttar Pradesh, with mortality 1/40th of what we've got with our first world geniuses in charge. They also report on their local doctors' success with Ivermectin (George Fareed and Bryan Tyson, All Valley Urgent Care - Imperial Valley, CA - remarkably successful) https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout---part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html
As far as I know they still use it. They have very little Covid at the moment.
I just looked up Covid cases On Google,they are only showing from the 18th of June 2021 as of today.This is because there are far more cases in the most vaccinated countries now than before and they are trying to hide it.
Of course they still use it, more do every day, being trained through FLCCC! It's safe and cheap! Docs are tired of watching their patients die. I used it, it helped within hours, sounded too good to be true, but it's true. Same story anecdotally through message boards and personal acquaintances. Even CHINA recommended using IVM, as they were using it successfully! I don't understand your willingness to accept the line that IVM is useless or harmful from the same lying liars who have chosen every step of the way to harm us. The reason IVM and HCQ was picked up was the cases where these drugs are widely used over the counter for parasites were "coincidentally" NOT struggling with covid. Honestly, if the scientific community were serious about solving covid and helping people, they'd at least say, "Why not? Can't hurt, let's try it." Instead, they launched an unhinged terror/propaganda campaign.
I'm starting to worry about your lack of skepticism about this and about Omicron being so deadly. These people are LIARS (and murderers, really), they don't want to if to end. Billions of dollars are at stake.
"I could buy Ivermectin easily in USA..." You could? My understanding is that, even if you have a prescription, the big pharmacy chains usually won't fill it, and independents have difficulty getting it. Where would you get it?
Many states DO supply Ivermectin via a prescription. If you live in a State where Pharmacists illegally refuse to fill an MDs Prescription, make a telemed appointment with Frontline Doctors. They will arrange to have Ivermectin sent to you. I have seen posts saying that the paste used for parasitic infections in Equines is the same, & safe. It isn’t. The active ingredient, Ivermectin, is the same as that used for human consumption but dosing is a serious problem. The average horse weighs 1100lbs. Ivermectin has an incredibly safe and long history in humans. Before the “pandemic “ it was used routinely. It has uses in fighting certain pneumonia infections, leukemia, etc.
Time to wake up! The health profession is controlled by large corporations. Obamacare gutted the delivery of healthcare. There are very few private MDs left and they usually have concierge type practices. Chances are, your own
doctor is at least partly owned by a hospital. That is the reason why Drs are keeping silent.
Also, for those ppl self dosing, whether as prophylaxis or treatment, be aware: Boxes typically advise you to take on an empty stomach. This is accurate, if you are treating yourself for a parasitic inf. When taking for a Covid related reason, you should take it with fatty food... tablespoon of a nut butter, glass of WHOLE fat milk, etc. Otherwise, you are wasting the product. I’ve had many patients in my ICU taking either too little or on an empty stomach....Thinking they were protected, or treating their infection.
Humans would obviously not use the horse dose. The equine form is, in fact, the same active ingredient, it is still dosed by weight, there are markings on the plunger to dose properly. All you need is forth grade math toget it right. And it's apple flavored!
I'm wondering . . . Does anybody have insight/confirmation of a headline in tertiary news websites over the last couple of days (?) :
"FDA Accused of Colluding with the USPS to Stop & Destroy Packages of Ivermectin Mailed to Patients"
I could see that becoming a reality, but since it has not been picked up by the larger secondary websites, I am left to wonder if it is just made-up, 'fake news' . . .
As part of my business, I did a job at a USPS customs facility a few years ago near the Ohare airport. The place was literally littered with opiate drugs. It was kind of fucking shocking really. Piles of opiate pill packs under conveyors.
The US is a target of a tidal wave of drugs being mailed to us from all over the world. So you may get lucky or not depending on how your stars align.
The flood of packages involves spot checks at best. Shippers typically try to obscure detail but every legit supplier does note content. The news articles are designed to discourage people from trying to but overseas. Shippers will reship if your package is denied entry, that seems priced into their product.
You can order it without a script from India. There are online compounding pharmacies here that will fill a script. Or you can take the horse paste as we did in my family, with absolutely zero ill effects, never mind the smear job done by the media. For therapeutic use, same dose per pound as for horses, the plunger calibrated in pounds. Therapeutic dose of about 0.4 mg/kg of body mass. Many smaller pharmacies will fill scripts for ivm.
What is the difference between horse paste and, say, Heartgard? Horse paste seems to be the veterinary version that's used, but I have a bunch of Heartgard (plain Ivermectin, not the Plus with Pyrantel) for my dogs and I think it would be easier to dose per weight. Maybe the flavor is less pleasant?
(I'm not planning to take Heartgard. I got the other stuff and have been handing it around to my older family members. But in a pinch...I wonder...)
I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
double check that it is pure IVM and proper dose with a pharmacist or doctor. I've spoken to docs that say as long as it is pure and you know the strength and can dose accordingly there is no difference, although I doubt the 'tripe flavor' would be very enjoyable
I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
I've repeated this information a few times in the thread in response to specific comments...
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I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
How much for the consult and is ivermectin sent to you? I have paid up to $250 for a consult and then the doc cut me off and said they couldn't tele-med in my state any longer.
We paid $115 per consult for each family member to Push Health. The Ivermectin costs ~$5.60 per pill including shipping. You can ask for prophylaxis or early treatment, depending on your assessment of you exposure risk. After you fill out the form, create an account, and pay the fee, Push Health connects you with a provider in your state.
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
YES . . . this is exactly how it is done/used. Taste is not particularly good, but mix with flavored yoghurt, etc. (YouTube videos are still available, but be picky).
I prophylaxed with the horse stuff for a few months - from Amazon, Chewy, etc. It's been "out of stock" on Chewy for a few months now though. It's very convenient because it's got a plunger with 50 pounds per notch dose (which you need to double or triple with Delta - not sure about Omicron). I stopped prophylaxing because it was pointed out that all the safety studies done on Ivermectin were for parasite use where it wasn't taken so regularly. So it's after I dropped prophylaxis that I got covid. My wife still has not gotten sick - I suspect it might be because she takes an SSRI (not Fluvoxamine but others might work also).
I was relieved we all just got covid and now have natural immunity. It wasn't worthwhile to take prophylactically, we had no risk factors. When it lingered in me and doc refused to prescribe IVM unless I was hospitalized, I just ordered Durvet and dosed by weight. Worked fast.
That horse has bolted. The FLCCC protocols work too well for the narrative cabal whom require more draconian measures such as mandates. The only question worth asking is how efficacious are the methods of action against mutants such as Omicron?
The FLCCC is having their weekly meeting today. They may elaborate on it, but as I understand it the docs that have pioneered this protocol have now lost most if not all of their hospital privileges (can't have them healing any people who could otherwise add to the covid death numbers right?)
Yes. Many lost their privileges last year. MDs & RNs, who dare speak the truth are at risk of losing their licensure. I’ve been written up many times for warning my patients about Remdesivir. I’ve been threatened with my license for spreading “misinformation “. My response, thus far, has been a letter, requesting the double blind peer reviewed studies showing safety & efficacy ( there are none) . I’m unvaccinated and a loud mouth. One more strike & I’m out. Stay strong, everyone. Don’t comply.
We are very lucky that we still have any ethical medical practitioners like you!
I know there are those who have bought the narrative hook line and sinker, and it will take losing either their own lives or the life of a dear loved one to wake up. I know there are those who like you are taking the risk and speaking out, but it is a small percentage. Where the hell are the ones who MUST see what is happening but are staying silent? (I suspect this is a very large group that is growing as more concerning information about the vax comes to light). Do they not realize that if only they were to organize and speak out also then this could all end? The licensing bodies have little power if the majority of those they 'license' stand in solidarity and tell them they are being replaced by ethical members from the profession. This is what needs to happen! (It must be so frustrating for you).
It seems the plan is to rid the hospitals of any dissenting voices.
This is so true ( and thank you for your kind words) If the medical profession spoke out en masse, this would be over in a heartbeat. I have a very hard time accepting that MDs & RNs are simply ignorant. If they are, they truly should not be trusted with the lives of patients. Those who remain silent just to keep their jobs are equally terrifying.... they may well keep their jobs but they lose their souls in the process. I love being a nurse. But these days, I feel my ability to actually help my patients is being diminished with each shift. Supply chain issues are affecting the quality of care we provide. We once had the best healthcare in the world. Everything is being dismantled and perverted. It’s wrong. It’s immoral. It’s criminal.
Yes. Doubtful that anyone other than the vaccinated will need to, though. I have been reading your posts RE: lag time, hospitalizations in other countries, etc. But, at this time, I just don’t see Omicron as being deadly except in the vaccinated population. I might be wrong. Either way, Iver will still work. If a patient is acutely ill, though, Iver alone will not be enough. The patient needs both HCQ, IVER, Azythromycin, & the usual nutraceuticals/vitamins. There are ppl who recover without any of the above. But the virus is unpredictable. My advice is to have all of the above, & begin treatment within first 48 hrs.
Yes, that went into effect several months ago, after ppl were getting sick using the original protocol that was based, largely, on the one used so successfully in provinces in India.
Not a good assessment, He (a psychiatrist, not an epidemiologist or medical researcher) cherry picks studies, makes ad hominem personal attacks (unprofessional - and not the type of behavior I would expect for a psychiatrist) neglects the large epidemiology data from say Uttar Pradesh.
Rather than a hit piece (rather than a serious analysis), suggest
Still weird that the same author who can write "this year’s lesson is “read the raw data”" also mindlessly takes an experimental mRNA/adenovirus transfection that withdrew untold numbers of participants who had AEs, merely because it's mislabeled a "vaccine." But, germaphobes gonna germaphobe...
Yeah. I had Covid before the vaccine. It was fairly obvious to me that I have zero need for the Covid "vaccine". So I missed the first few months. Only then I realized how messed up this "vaccine" is. I was in some way lucky to have covid before vaccines. Not sure how my decision making would go had I not had covid.
You gain immunity from mass psychosis the same way as anything else, by living through it. With the War on Terror only two decades old, Americans alive today seem to have a pre-existing immunodeficiency in this regard.
I used it, along with many other things, when I was sick in August - I used most of the things listed in the protocol at flccc.net. It never got to my lungs, O2 stayed 97-98%. Note that the study you cite was before Delta - doctors using Ivermectin had to triple the recommended dose for Delta (0.6mg/Kg body weight) due to its virulence. According to Peter McCullough there are around 500 doctors in the US using successfully. The opposition to it can only be described as demonic. I have "cadillac" union health insurance, but it would not cover the Ivermectin prescription, though it did cover other "off label" drugs like fluvoxamine.
I'm apparently part of the less than 1% of seniors who did not get vaccinated, I did my homework, ignored the fearmongering, fortified my body with zinc, vitamin D, etc., and now as covid recovered I'm contributing to herd immunity (which the vaxed don't do), and am free of need for boosters. Thankful to have access to the truth.
Tamil Nadu is the prominent "ivermectin stopper," having added it to the guidelines on May 3, then removed it and replaced it with remdesivir on May 7. Their wave ended about a week later than other places relative to the start, with an additionally delayed "deaths" peak relative to cases.
There are rumors that Kerala, which had the most protracted wave of all, took ivm off the guidelines, causing the long wave. In fact, the August update to the guidelines only says "no longer recommended for kids/ pregnancy", implying everyone else can still get it https://dhs.kerala.gov.in/ജാഗ്രത-നിര്%E2%80%8Dദേശങ്ങള്%E2%80%8D/ - so, that's when I started to have my doubts about the contribution of ivm to the reversals elsewhere. It could just be that Kerala had supply chain issues do to geography. Or it could have been that they were later in the vaccine roll-out than other places, and this caused the protracted wave, somehow.
Maharashtra, however, never adopted it at all, and they had a much more protracted wave than other states.
Is this normal? I would have expected Omicron to quickly replace Delta and then rise on its own, but apparently both have been rising in near lock-step for a few days now. There could be some other explanation for this, but it appears Omicron is not eating into Delta in London but co-existing or possibly even amplificating Delta.
The most obvious other explanation I can see is that a part of Omicron is for some reason being mis-labeled as Delta, possibly the famed 'Stealth Omicron'. In this case different variants of Omicron have already taken over London, but only a half of the actual Omicron cases are being correctly detected and labeled.
I did check the data for 12/12 (https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus--covid-19--cases) and cases in all London boroughs on that day do tally up to about 10k, which does roughly correspond to the sum of Delta+Omicron lines on 12/12 in the Twitter graph above.
Yep, you could be right. Maybe I imagined everything wrong, I thought that a fitter strain would just outperform the previously dominant one outright.
Well certainly today's UK data is very interesting. And they seem to acknowledge that for at least the time being, they have "two epidemics on top of one another": https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1471169211280105477
The irrational attacks on ivermectin have been insane. But some if the critics have been right on one point... The studies have been promising but inconclusive. Part of the problem is many of the studies used combinations of treatments, which may work well on their own (ie. vitamin D) making it hard to seperate the benefits of ivermectin. Was this study focused on ivermectin or a combination of drugs/vitamins?
No kidding haha. By the by, i was just making a similar point about test negative designs. They are inherently biased to the point of uselessness the way they are currently being used in the academic literature. But the government could eliminate a lot of bias by testing in a similar fashion to political surveys, ie., random samples of the population daily or weekly get tested. We could get relatively close to true VE that way inexpensively. Such a program will cost millions over the course of a year... Too expensive for independent researchers to perform, but a drop in the ocean in comparison to the billions/trillions being spent on covid with public money (for a high value end goal). Would never happen as the results may be contradictory to the ongoing massive propaganda campaign/power grab currently taking place. Oh well.
Did you see the table of results of multiple random controlled studies of ivermectin efficacy, posted recently by Pierre Kory on Twitter? Doesn't look inconclusive to me.
Good to hear. If people are not taking vitamins as part of the treatment, and ivermectin still has such a strong effect, then it is pretty promising (even if some are taking vitamins independently)
I have no way of knowing for sure, but in my mind, the Youtube lecture of John Campbell about Vitamin D may have really improved the course of my Covid. I took a lot of D3 in the beginning of my covid. D3 is well tolerated.
It's a crime against humanity that the potential benefit of vitamin D is covered up. What is the worst outcome of making sure people aren't vitamin D deficient? Less profits to pharmaceuticals? Even if it does not help in COVID (I strongly suspect it does but can attest that I have not had time to thoroughly review the literature), it will help in many other areas of health.
They only provided IVN, but there does not seem to be any data on the actual behavior of the participants.
It's important to note that this does not have any of the desired components of a trial (double-blind, randomization etc.), so the data should be understood with the numerous limitations.
Retrospective observational trials are best used to corroborate data from other types of research.
"Astral Codex Ten" makes the case that IVM's effectiveness appears strongest in parasite endemic areas, and that COVID is worse in those with a worm infection comorbidity. It makes sense, but there still appears to be a prophylactic effect, and IVM still seems to work well in Western countries with modern infrastructure. It's an interesting piece of the puzzle which shouldn't be dismissed offhand. https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted
As to why it's been swept aside in the US, big pharma couldn't obtain an EUA if there was already an effective treatment. This poses an interesting conundrum when it comes to getting an EUA for Remdesivir... not that following the rules is something which is done anymore.
How actor Louis Gossett, Jr. survived COVID-19 (Feb 5, 2021)
Academy Award winning actor Louis Gossett, Jr. tells his personal story of surviving COVID-19 after learning about a remarkably effective re-purposed medicine at flccc.net.
This study looks very good. Ivermectin as a prophylactic appears far superior to vaccination.
Even if the benefits of Ivermectin were unclear (I don't think they are at this point), the risks of this drug are so vanishingly small as to make it worth trying for anyone at high risk of covid. I feel the same way about other repurposed drugs with long track records of safety. Fear of prescribing Ivermectin off-label clearly doesn't come from physicians' safety concerns-- so what (or rather who) are they afraid of?
I wonder what happened in 2021, when Itajaí had one of the highest case fatality rate in Brazil (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8415510/pdf/ajt-28-e596.pdf).
Hi Igor,
Just look at Uttah Pradesh in India.Go to google, then covid cases, then India,Uttah Pradesh.
Bingo.They implemented Ivermectin , which is an ionophore ( opens the cell) and has other modes of action, to allow Zinc to enter which inhibits viral replication. This is what Dr. Zelenco used with Hydroxychloroquine,same idea,think Zinc losenger.They treated everyone early with a package of Ivermectin,Vitimin D,C And Zinc ect. 227 million people and virtually no cases or deaths as of mid july 2021 .I just want to say a few things to everyone.
1 ,The PCR test is Useless.it is not a diagnoses of anything.A fear weapon.No science involved!
How many people died with Flu,or a Bronchitis infection that were thought to have a covid infection? Treated too late.The Flu and Bronchitis have not dissappeared.They were on holiday.Really!
2, Natural immunity is broad,robust and long lasting, unless you take a vaccine.
Has anyone here ever gone out after having a does of the flu ( which can be very nasty and deadly) and needed to get vaccinated every 3 months or less?
We have an "IMMUNE SYSTEM" Or at least most of us had.
3, The mass deployment of vaccines during a Pandemic will lead to primming the virus to mutate
and has caused ADE in the people who have been vaccinated.
4,Cheap, early, effective outpatient treatment is all that was ever needed,but that did not suit
the agenda of the few! This has never been about doing the right thing,in the right way,
for the right reason,The total censorship and lack of any debate,in any area from the start,
can only lead, a resonable person to conclude, that this has been by design!
Yes, it was amazing. Did they continue to recommend Ivermectin?
There is an obscure publication called The Desert Review which has run numerous stories on Ivermectin in general (they just did one on the Andrew Hill issue you mentioned) and Ivermectin use in India. Yes the pandemic is pretty much over in Uttar Pradesh, with mortality 1/40th of what we've got with our first world geniuses in charge. They also report on their local doctors' success with Ivermectin (George Fareed and Bryan Tyson, All Valley Urgent Care - Imperial Valley, CA - remarkably successful) https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout---part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html
As far as I know they still use it. They have very little Covid at the moment.
I just looked up Covid cases On Google,they are only showing from the 18th of June 2021 as of today.This is because there are far more cases in the most vaccinated countries now than before and they are trying to hide it.
Of course they still use it, more do every day, being trained through FLCCC! It's safe and cheap! Docs are tired of watching their patients die. I used it, it helped within hours, sounded too good to be true, but it's true. Same story anecdotally through message boards and personal acquaintances. Even CHINA recommended using IVM, as they were using it successfully! I don't understand your willingness to accept the line that IVM is useless or harmful from the same lying liars who have chosen every step of the way to harm us. The reason IVM and HCQ was picked up was the cases where these drugs are widely used over the counter for parasites were "coincidentally" NOT struggling with covid. Honestly, if the scientific community were serious about solving covid and helping people, they'd at least say, "Why not? Can't hurt, let's try it." Instead, they launched an unhinged terror/propaganda campaign.
I'm starting to worry about your lack of skepticism about this and about Omicron being so deadly. These people are LIARS (and murderers, really), they don't want to if to end. Billions of dollars are at stake.
"I could buy Ivermectin easily in USA..." You could? My understanding is that, even if you have a prescription, the big pharmacy chains usually won't fill it, and independents have difficulty getting it. Where would you get it?
I found it on the street, it fell off a truck
Ask around is what I am saying without saying too much
At this point I'm not covering this up because people need to know. FLCCC has list of teledocs who will treat/prevent covid, with ivm if needed
Many states DO supply Ivermectin via a prescription. If you live in a State where Pharmacists illegally refuse to fill an MDs Prescription, make a telemed appointment with Frontline Doctors. They will arrange to have Ivermectin sent to you. I have seen posts saying that the paste used for parasitic infections in Equines is the same, & safe. It isn’t. The active ingredient, Ivermectin, is the same as that used for human consumption but dosing is a serious problem. The average horse weighs 1100lbs. Ivermectin has an incredibly safe and long history in humans. Before the “pandemic “ it was used routinely. It has uses in fighting certain pneumonia infections, leukemia, etc.
Time to wake up! The health profession is controlled by large corporations. Obamacare gutted the delivery of healthcare. There are very few private MDs left and they usually have concierge type practices. Chances are, your own
doctor is at least partly owned by a hospital. That is the reason why Drs are keeping silent.
Also, for those ppl self dosing, whether as prophylaxis or treatment, be aware: Boxes typically advise you to take on an empty stomach. This is accurate, if you are treating yourself for a parasitic inf. When taking for a Covid related reason, you should take it with fatty food... tablespoon of a nut butter, glass of WHOLE fat milk, etc. Otherwise, you are wasting the product. I’ve had many patients in my ICU taking either too little or on an empty stomach....Thinking they were protected, or treating their infection.
Thank you!!!!
Humans would obviously not use the horse dose. The equine form is, in fact, the same active ingredient, it is still dosed by weight, there are markings on the plunger to dose properly. All you need is forth grade math toget it right. And it's apple flavored!
FLCCC does recommend taking with a meal or something fatty, yes.
I'm wondering . . . Does anybody have insight/confirmation of a headline in tertiary news websites over the last couple of days (?) :
"FDA Accused of Colluding with the USPS to Stop & Destroy Packages of Ivermectin Mailed to Patients"
I could see that becoming a reality, but since it has not been picked up by the larger secondary websites, I am left to wonder if it is just made-up, 'fake news' . . .
As part of my business, I did a job at a USPS customs facility a few years ago near the Ohare airport. The place was literally littered with opiate drugs. It was kind of fucking shocking really. Piles of opiate pill packs under conveyors.
The US is a target of a tidal wave of drugs being mailed to us from all over the world. So you may get lucky or not depending on how your stars align.
This article talks about that:
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/hospital-tries-to-medically-kidnap-children-given-ivermectin-by-parents/
The flood of packages involves spot checks at best. Shippers typically try to obscure detail but every legit supplier does note content. The news articles are designed to discourage people from trying to but overseas. Shippers will reship if your package is denied entry, that seems priced into their product.
You can order it without a script from India. There are online compounding pharmacies here that will fill a script. Or you can take the horse paste as we did in my family, with absolutely zero ill effects, never mind the smear job done by the media. For therapeutic use, same dose per pound as for horses, the plunger calibrated in pounds. Therapeutic dose of about 0.4 mg/kg of body mass. Many smaller pharmacies will fill scripts for ivm.
What is the difference between horse paste and, say, Heartgard? Horse paste seems to be the veterinary version that's used, but I have a bunch of Heartgard (plain Ivermectin, not the Plus with Pyrantel) for my dogs and I think it would be easier to dose per weight. Maybe the flavor is less pleasant?
(I'm not planning to take Heartgard. I got the other stuff and have been handing it around to my older family members. But in a pinch...I wonder...)
I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
https://www.pushhealth.com/service-request/ivermectin/1683?state=Pennsylvania&fbclid=IwAR20zhs6q_dYLAyYm0dMd_nBFRr600Jn7rr-BsEnTZpo9m8zU4K6B3BFw48
https://honeybeehealth.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com/news.php#IVM
August 12, 2021
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
https://www.pushhealth.com/drugs/ivermectin
double check that it is pure IVM and proper dose with a pharmacist or doctor. I've spoken to docs that say as long as it is pure and you know the strength and can dose accordingly there is no difference, although I doubt the 'tripe flavor' would be very enjoyable
I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
https://www.pushhealth.com/service-request/ivermectin/1683?state=Pennsylvania&fbclid=IwAR20zhs6q_dYLAyYm0dMd_nBFRr600Jn7rr-BsEnTZpo9m8zU4K6B3BFw48
https://honeybeehealth.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com/news.php#IVM
August 12, 2021
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
https://www.pushhealth.com/drugs/ivermectin
I bought my from seven cells.com they are based in Florida and I did screening questions online, sent my ID and received mine easily!
They are quite expensive. Just saying. I think there's a 20% off promo code "Daniel," but I haven't tried it. Daniel Horowitz did a podcast on IVM recently, covered some studies including the one Igor discussed, and he calls the non-use of the many cheap, available treatment options a genocide. He's not wrong. Here's the link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/genocide-is-the-only-word-to-describe-what-the/id1065050908?i=1000544851111
I've repeated this information a few times in the thread in response to specific comments...
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I obtained Ivermectin for my family through Push Health and Honeybee Health Pharmacy. It was all done online, and I paid out of pocket. Honeybee Health appears in the pharmacy drop-down.
The Ivermectin I have is manufactured in the United States for Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals.
https://www.pushhealth.com/service-request/ivermectin/1683?state=Pennsylvania&fbclid=IwAR20zhs6q_dYLAyYm0dMd_nBFRr600Jn7rr-BsEnTZpo9m8zU4K6B3BFw48
https://honeybeehealth.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com
http://edenbridgepharma.com/news.php#IVM
August 12, 2021
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals utilizes a contract manufacturer and two contract packagers for its Ivermectin tablets, USP (3mg). The manufacturer and both packagers are located in the United States and are all in good standing with the FDA and routinely audited."
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
https://www.pushhealth.com/drugs/ivermectin
Thanks so much. Cheaper than I have been paying for a Florida pharmacy and doc. through Frontline.
How much for the consult and is ivermectin sent to you? I have paid up to $250 for a consult and then the doc cut me off and said they couldn't tele-med in my state any longer.
We paid $115 per consult for each family member to Push Health. The Ivermectin costs ~$5.60 per pill including shipping. You can ask for prophylaxis or early treatment, depending on your assessment of you exposure risk. After you fill out the form, create an account, and pay the fee, Push Health connects you with a provider in your state.
I just realized the link that I provided is for Pennsylvania. If you click on the "Request Now" button on this link, it will connect you to links for all the states. I assume they will reimburse you if they cannot connect you with a provider for your area.
https://www.pushhealth.com/drugs/ivermectin
this is actually expensive per 3 mg pill
Not any more. Supply and demand.
Yup.
Keep repeating your post from time to time - people don't have the time or inclination to search too deeply and widely.
Ivermectin is used in HUGE quantities in cattle (e.g. Ivomec), there's no lack of supply.
It is the exact same substance as the human form, the only difference is the way it is used (poured, injected, etc.).
Bolivia used the veterinary form in the city of Trinidad in early 2020 https://www.opinion.com.bo/articulo/pais/ivermectina-80-mil-dosis-trinidady-soldados-solidarios-regalan-casa-casa/20200519073636768419.html
This is just an example in an emergency situation, do not use any veterinarian formulation (it may contain other harmful substances).
Three in my family including self used horse paste and had no side effects.
Which product/brand?
YES . . . this is exactly how it is done/used. Taste is not particularly good, but mix with flavored yoghurt, etc. (YouTube videos are still available, but be picky).
Where can you buy it? Farm and Fleet?
I prophylaxed with the horse stuff for a few months - from Amazon, Chewy, etc. It's been "out of stock" on Chewy for a few months now though. It's very convenient because it's got a plunger with 50 pounds per notch dose (which you need to double or triple with Delta - not sure about Omicron). I stopped prophylaxing because it was pointed out that all the safety studies done on Ivermectin were for parasite use where it wasn't taken so regularly. So it's after I dropped prophylaxis that I got covid. My wife still has not gotten sick - I suspect it might be because she takes an SSRI (not Fluvoxamine but others might work also).
I was relieved we all just got covid and now have natural immunity. It wasn't worthwhile to take prophylactically, we had no risk factors. When it lingered in me and doc refused to prescribe IVM unless I was hospitalized, I just ordered Durvet and dosed by weight. Worked fast.
Seven cells.com
That horse has bolted. The FLCCC protocols work too well for the narrative cabal whom require more draconian measures such as mandates. The only question worth asking is how efficacious are the methods of action against mutants such as Omicron?
I am wondering about the same thing. Will IVM work just as well against Omicron?
The FLCCC is having their weekly meeting today. They may elaborate on it, but as I understand it the docs that have pioneered this protocol have now lost most if not all of their hospital privileges (can't have them healing any people who could otherwise add to the covid death numbers right?)
Yes. Many lost their privileges last year. MDs & RNs, who dare speak the truth are at risk of losing their licensure. I’ve been written up many times for warning my patients about Remdesivir. I’ve been threatened with my license for spreading “misinformation “. My response, thus far, has been a letter, requesting the double blind peer reviewed studies showing safety & efficacy ( there are none) . I’m unvaccinated and a loud mouth. One more strike & I’m out. Stay strong, everyone. Don’t comply.
We are very lucky that we still have any ethical medical practitioners like you!
I know there are those who have bought the narrative hook line and sinker, and it will take losing either their own lives or the life of a dear loved one to wake up. I know there are those who like you are taking the risk and speaking out, but it is a small percentage. Where the hell are the ones who MUST see what is happening but are staying silent? (I suspect this is a very large group that is growing as more concerning information about the vax comes to light). Do they not realize that if only they were to organize and speak out also then this could all end? The licensing bodies have little power if the majority of those they 'license' stand in solidarity and tell them they are being replaced by ethical members from the profession. This is what needs to happen! (It must be so frustrating for you).
It seems the plan is to rid the hospitals of any dissenting voices.
This is so true ( and thank you for your kind words) If the medical profession spoke out en masse, this would be over in a heartbeat. I have a very hard time accepting that MDs & RNs are simply ignorant. If they are, they truly should not be trusted with the lives of patients. Those who remain silent just to keep their jobs are equally terrifying.... they may well keep their jobs but they lose their souls in the process. I love being a nurse. But these days, I feel my ability to actually help my patients is being diminished with each shift. Supply chain issues are affecting the quality of care we provide. We once had the best healthcare in the world. Everything is being dismantled and perverted. It’s wrong. It’s immoral. It’s criminal.
Yes. Doubtful that anyone other than the vaccinated will need to, though. I have been reading your posts RE: lag time, hospitalizations in other countries, etc. But, at this time, I just don’t see Omicron as being deadly except in the vaccinated population. I might be wrong. Either way, Iver will still work. If a patient is acutely ill, though, Iver alone will not be enough. The patient needs both HCQ, IVER, Azythromycin, & the usual nutraceuticals/vitamins. There are ppl who recover without any of the above. But the virus is unpredictable. My advice is to have all of the above, & begin treatment within first 48 hrs.
Looking at the multiple mechanisms by which IVM works, it seems likely.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.663586/full
See Figure 2
The FLCCC adjusted their protocols in response to Delta...no word yet on Omicron.
Yes, that went into effect several months ago, after ppl were getting sick using the original protocol that was based, largely, on the one used so successfully in provinces in India.
I'm guessing why wouldn't it? From here on out I'm using it any time I get a fever, which is almost never.
There is a very interesting interview with Dr. Peter McCollough that includes the story of Ivermectin.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz
Here's Scott Alexander article which analyzes many studies with sources: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted
Not a good assessment, He (a psychiatrist, not an epidemiologist or medical researcher) cherry picks studies, makes ad hominem personal attacks (unprofessional - and not the type of behavior I would expect for a psychiatrist) neglects the large epidemiology data from say Uttar Pradesh.
Rather than a hit piece (rather than a serious analysis), suggest
https://ivmmeta.com/
It's a good assessment.
Still weird that the same author who can write "this year’s lesson is “read the raw data”" also mindlessly takes an experimental mRNA/adenovirus transfection that withdrew untold numbers of participants who had AEs, merely because it's mislabeled a "vaccine." But, germaphobes gonna germaphobe...
Nobody is 100% immune against fear and mass psychosis, especially at the height of media campaign.
Yeah. I had Covid before the vaccine. It was fairly obvious to me that I have zero need for the Covid "vaccine". So I missed the first few months. Only then I realized how messed up this "vaccine" is. I was in some way lucky to have covid before vaccines. Not sure how my decision making would go had I not had covid.
I'm now thinking that the unvaxxed are the healthiest among us.
I am sure of it
You gain immunity from mass psychosis the same way as anything else, by living through it. With the War on Terror only two decades old, Americans alive today seem to have a pre-existing immunodeficiency in this regard.
Guess it's like a flu, new strain each few years with original antigenic sin in effect ;)
There are is well-known site which lists all the RCT studies into Ivermectin.
The fact that they banned or suppressed it should be sufficient evidence for most people.
Remember, beware of "paralysis by analysis". And, of course, there are studies - and there are studies. The vax pimps also had their "studies".
What is 'paralysis by analysis'? Is that another way to say, 'don't look too closely at the data'? Or maybe 'just trust me'?
I used it, along with many other things, when I was sick in August - I used most of the things listed in the protocol at flccc.net. It never got to my lungs, O2 stayed 97-98%. Note that the study you cite was before Delta - doctors using Ivermectin had to triple the recommended dose for Delta (0.6mg/Kg body weight) due to its virulence. According to Peter McCullough there are around 500 doctors in the US using successfully. The opposition to it can only be described as demonic. I have "cadillac" union health insurance, but it would not cover the Ivermectin prescription, though it did cover other "off label" drugs like fluvoxamine.
I'm apparently part of the less than 1% of seniors who did not get vaccinated, I did my homework, ignored the fearmongering, fortified my body with zinc, vitamin D, etc., and now as covid recovered I'm contributing to herd immunity (which the vaxed don't do), and am free of need for boosters. Thankful to have access to the truth.
It's never to late! If I can ask - what held you back given India, Japan ... success stories? I'm curious about your thoughts.
I was not sure if it was due to Ivermectin or just the waves dying down. Plus, I thought that India stopped using Ivermectin?
India has federalized public health system.
Tamil Nadu is the prominent "ivermectin stopper," having added it to the guidelines on May 3, then removed it and replaced it with remdesivir on May 7. Their wave ended about a week later than other places relative to the start, with an additionally delayed "deaths" peak relative to cases.
There are rumors that Kerala, which had the most protracted wave of all, took ivm off the guidelines, causing the long wave. In fact, the August update to the guidelines only says "no longer recommended for kids/ pregnancy", implying everyone else can still get it https://dhs.kerala.gov.in/ജാഗ്രത-നിര്%E2%80%8Dദേശങ്ങള്%E2%80%8D/ - so, that's when I started to have my doubts about the contribution of ivm to the reversals elsewhere. It could just be that Kerala had supply chain issues do to geography. Or it could have been that they were later in the vaccine roll-out than other places, and this caused the protracted wave, somehow.
Maharashtra, however, never adopted it at all, and they had a much more protracted wave than other states.
Hi Igor,
this is a response to your other posts about Omicron, but I'm replying here since those are getting quite old and over-saturated with comments.
Anyway, I just found an interesting graph on Twitter: https://twitter.com/pauleluard/status/1471163292475346954/photo/1
Is this normal? I would have expected Omicron to quickly replace Delta and then rise on its own, but apparently both have been rising in near lock-step for a few days now. There could be some other explanation for this, but it appears Omicron is not eating into Delta in London but co-existing or possibly even amplificating Delta.
The most obvious other explanation I can see is that a part of Omicron is for some reason being mis-labeled as Delta, possibly the famed 'Stealth Omicron'. In this case different variants of Omicron have already taken over London, but only a half of the actual Omicron cases are being correctly detected and labeled.
I did check the data for 12/12 (https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus--covid-19--cases) and cases in all London boroughs on that day do tally up to about 10k, which does roughly correspond to the sum of Delta+Omicron lines on 12/12 in the Twitter graph above.
This is how it looks in London, and yes Omicron is displacing Delta:
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1471193909007106050
Interesting, we have two completely different graphs on Twitter. Who would have thought. ;-)
Well no matter, your first answer appears to be correct, another graph seems to support your explanation that during a rising wave of infections two competing mutations can coexist for a short amount of time until cross-immunity kills the weaker one: https://www.economist.com/img/b/400/432/90/sites/default/files/images/2021/12/articles/body/20211211_wof960.jpg
If this graph is to believed, in May 2021 in SA at first Delta just stacked on top of Beta for about a month.
yep. Usually the more infectious one wins, right?
One thing does not have to displace another in th early stage, except in the late-stage when there is cross immunity.
Yep, you could be right. Maybe I imagined everything wrong, I thought that a fitter strain would just outperform the previously dominant one outright.
Well certainly today's UK data is very interesting. And they seem to acknowledge that for at least the time being, they have "two epidemics on top of one another": https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1471169211280105477
The irrational attacks on ivermectin have been insane. But some if the critics have been right on one point... The studies have been promising but inconclusive. Part of the problem is many of the studies used combinations of treatments, which may work well on their own (ie. vitamin D) making it hard to seperate the benefits of ivermectin. Was this study focused on ivermectin or a combination of drugs/vitamins?
Also, this is a job of out government, to conduct a large, well designed and conclusive study.
No kidding haha. By the by, i was just making a similar point about test negative designs. They are inherently biased to the point of uselessness the way they are currently being used in the academic literature. But the government could eliminate a lot of bias by testing in a similar fashion to political surveys, ie., random samples of the population daily or weekly get tested. We could get relatively close to true VE that way inexpensively. Such a program will cost millions over the course of a year... Too expensive for independent researchers to perform, but a drop in the ocean in comparison to the billions/trillions being spent on covid with public money (for a high value end goal). Would never happen as the results may be contradictory to the ongoing massive propaganda campaign/power grab currently taking place. Oh well.
Did you see the table of results of multiple random controlled studies of ivermectin efficacy, posted recently by Pierre Kory on Twitter? Doesn't look inconclusive to me.
As far as I could tell, just IVM. But many people smartened enough to take vitamins.
Good to hear. If people are not taking vitamins as part of the treatment, and ivermectin still has such a strong effect, then it is pretty promising (even if some are taking vitamins independently)
I have no way of knowing for sure, but in my mind, the Youtube lecture of John Campbell about Vitamin D may have really improved the course of my Covid. I took a lot of D3 in the beginning of my covid. D3 is well tolerated.
It's a crime against humanity that the potential benefit of vitamin D is covered up. What is the worst outcome of making sure people aren't vitamin D deficient? Less profits to pharmaceuticals? Even if it does not help in COVID (I strongly suspect it does but can attest that I have not had time to thoroughly review the literature), it will help in many other areas of health.
Yes. This alone is a huge crime
What else are you taking with the D3?
They only provided IVN, but there does not seem to be any data on the actual behavior of the participants.
It's important to note that this does not have any of the desired components of a trial (double-blind, randomization etc.), so the data should be understood with the numerous limitations.
Retrospective observational trials are best used to corroborate data from other types of research.
"Astral Codex Ten" makes the case that IVM's effectiveness appears strongest in parasite endemic areas, and that COVID is worse in those with a worm infection comorbidity. It makes sense, but there still appears to be a prophylactic effect, and IVM still seems to work well in Western countries with modern infrastructure. It's an interesting piece of the puzzle which shouldn't be dismissed offhand. https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted
As to why it's been swept aside in the US, big pharma couldn't obtain an EUA if there was already an effective treatment. This poses an interesting conundrum when it comes to getting an EUA for Remdesivir... not that following the rules is something which is done anymore.
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