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VeryVer's avatar

And if the mandates get enforced, the black market will boom.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

And I have nothing against it

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CMCM's avatar

Nor do I. If I were in a situation in which I absolutely needed a "vaccine" to do something, I would like to find a doctor willing to meet me in his office behind a closed door, inject "my vax" into an orange or something, enter the appropriate lot number etc. on the vaccine paper, and that's that. Actually, I'm sure there ARE doctors who will do this.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

yes there are

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The King's avatar

Nor do I. There's a black market for everything.

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Number6's avatar

The only negative is when Governments keep demanding boosters .... you must keep going back to the Doctor and pay for another "non-jab"

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TRM's avatar

It beats getting the real one for free.

Just view it as protection fees that you have to pay so Fredo & Company don't kneecap you.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Not possible in Canada - doctors are on a very short leash and are afraid of their own shadows.

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Jestre's avatar

The greatest lesson of totalitarian countries is the free market will find a way.

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Andrew Venner's avatar

Sadly, in Canada I believe the numbers are probably accurate. We have lineups of people in masks waiting to get tested. It’s an embarrassment

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Igor Chudov's avatar

We have a lot of such people here also. Anyway, we definitely support you and better times will come soon.

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Andrew Venner's avatar

I think next month is going to be the beginning of a disaster. Unvaccinated truck drivers will not be allowed across the Canada/US border and a lot of truckers are not vaccinated.

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TML's avatar

It's indeed an embarrassment in Canada. Sheep is a compliment. Cowards & zombies are the true description for many here. Why wouldn't the stats be fake here too? a) The psyop of staying with the crowd requires large numbers b) Gov'ts have lied about many related stats, incl phony PCR, death stats, hospital loads, etc. Neither of those prove fake stats, but they certainly make it the most probable condition.

In a just world, they'll have earned their fates from enabling this gruesome crime.

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Barbelo of the Pleroma's avatar

When the NHL season collapses completely from Covid infections the Canucks will have no choice but to pay attention :)

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TML's avatar

And the collapse of multiple sports leagues is in process now. I suspect it's one of those unintended consequences that escaped the criminals. The Rogan-McCollough interview many be another (in hindsight).

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Barbelo of the Pleroma's avatar

And they shot themselves completely in the foot with these stupid zero-Covid standards. Then again they were no doubt advised by highly paid public health morons.

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The King's avatar

I heard from a trucker who goes to and through Canada all the time. He picks up loads of things needed in the US. Not anymore, though!

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Richard Seager's avatar

There is a testing tent set up next to dental school here in Dunedin, NZ.

There were two people there this afternoon, both in ridiculous garments trying to get a sleep. Employees of course. Literally nobody is going to it.

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Diana's avatar

I was told that when teaching teenagers health, I should emphasize the high percentage of kids who are not doing drugs and not sexually active. The point wasn't that the majority weren't doing these things, the point was that if we TOLD them this was the case, most would gravitate towards "fitting in" and remain abstinent. (This was in the old days; I'm pretty sure now the message is "Whatever you do is okay, just make sure it's safe and consensual!")

Anyway, it's why I wouldn't be surprised to find that there is some level of conscious, intentional overestimation and promotion of the "percentage vaccinated" number to nudge us all toward compliance.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

The vaccine scammers promoting the vaccine, and the scammers giving out fake vaccines, all benefit from fake reporting, so no surprise that it took place, right?

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Alex Garcia's avatar

For those in Canada, be it known that there are actually some of us in the federal government working to undermine the tyrannical vaccine system from the inside. It gives us great pleasure and hope as we slowly chip away at the false narrative.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

UK Government admit that the vaccines have damaged the natural immune systems of the double jabbed.

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity against Covid variants - or possibly any virus.

So let’s watch the ‘real’ pandemic begin now!

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

What’s this mean?

We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

Read it for yourself.. Page 24.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yep that's roughly correct

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Nuance Wire's avatar

Everyone that's unvaxxed just needs to sound off just like we did back in my bootcamp days so we can get an accurate count.

I'll start:

ONE

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Diana's avatar

SIX

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Dee's avatar

FIVE

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Unacceptable Fringe Minority's avatar

FOUR

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Matt's avatar

TWO

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Igor Chudov's avatar

THREE

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DAM on the beach's avatar

THREE

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Tam Hunt's avatar

Another key part is that cdc defines “fully vaccinated” as 14 days after the final jab in your series, which leaves a 14 day gap from when someone is actually fully vaxxed and when they are considered fully vaxxed statistically, and it is this period when the large majority of adverse effects happen from the jabs. So all the stats we read comparing vaxxed to un vaxxed are extremely misleading bc of this definition. Yet again policy choices and definitions are making the headline data basically worthless.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

This is one of the most shocking lies spread by vaccinators, yes.

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DR's avatar

Why is this a 'lie'?

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Dee's avatar

There was never a doubt in my mind that there would be doctors willing to shoot the poison shots in the sink. I hope none get caught. And I've guesstimated that it's closer to half the US either didn't take the shot, took the JnJ and won't do boosters, or had only one of the mRNA and wouldn't go back for more.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Since the vax itself is a scam, I totally support SCAMMING THE SCAMMERS

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Dee's avatar

As do I. My personal doc is an MD+naturopath and knows the truth, but all specialists in my area are employed by hospital systems. I've already decided that if I ever need to see one and I'm asked if I'm vaxxed, I will lie like a rug and say yes. Because according to the new definition of vaccine, I identify as vaxxed.

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CMCM's avatar

Same here. If a vax certificate isn't being demanded, at this point in time I have no problem just lying about it if it serves my needs.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Those certificates are very easily forged. Just sayin'.

This is part of the deal, by the way. The camel's nose under the tent. The plan is to stimulate or simulate public outrage over faux vaxx certs to drive the blockchainish digital Real ID vaxxpasses, which is an essential part of the Great Reset world order. Hopefully the whole scheme tanks before we get that far.

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CMCM's avatar

I've been wondering how easy it is to get one. Does anyone anywhere have the ability to check the lot number info on the certificate?

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Em's Rule's avatar

Absolutely, redefine the definition of what it means to be vaxxed!

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Alex Garcia's avatar

I'd be interested in getting the true story on the ICU's in Canada:

Were they ever close to being over-run? Is this a manufactured crisis?

How many are truly unvaccinated?

What co-morbidities prevail?

What is the average age?

We need to disprove the whole story of the high unvax numbers of previously "healthy" young people in the ICU as it is the strongest selling point for vaccinations in Canada now that it is clear that vaccinations do not stop infections.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I never looked into Canada, I would say you need to do a little bit of digging: hospital capacity, covid bed utilization, mandate firings

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I.M.'s avatar

ICUs in Canada have very little spare capacity to begin with. A bad flu season pushes them to the edge. I'm sure it won't take much time web searching to find news stories saying as much from 2018 or earlier.

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CK_'s avatar

I hope you're right. I'm part of the "laptop class" and most of us are vaccinated. I have an autistic son so I was very skeptical from the start.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Was your son autistic from birth? Like would he smile back at you?

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CK_'s avatar

He seemed to be fine until he was 10 months old when he regressed. From my research, vaccines with the Aluminum adjuvant are dangerous because Al is neurotoxic. By this time, he'd already had 12 Al shots, including the Hep B shot, which is given at birth in the US.

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CMCM's avatar

Are you kidding me? He had 12 shots by the time he was 10 months old? Good grief.

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Redpill's avatar

If you look at the child vax schedule a child in the US, if the parent follows it will have received 75 doses of 14 vaccines by the age on 18. Than, after and I'm sure that the American public is unaware of this, the CDC years ago created ADULT vaccination schedule that kicks in at around 19. Same shot as the kids except the shingles is added. This schedule has been created under the HHS Healthy Peoples agenda which has been in development since the 1970's. The goal is vaccinations from cradle to grave. That was actually part of the original mission statement of NACCHO-National Association of County and City Health Officials, a group in every state funded by the CDC that works with state government to mandate children vax's and move towards total vaxxing of the US population. NACCHO changed their mission statement because is sounded so ominous. HHS calls it: U.S. National Vaccine Plan. The Adult schedule, on the CDC website is 72 vaccine between the ages of 19-65. They have been working on this for a long time quietly. There has been no media coverage. Dr. Tenpenny got wind of it years ago and provided updates on her blog.

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CK_'s avatar

He had 16 shots by the time he was 12 months old ("only" 12 of those had the Aluminum adjuvant). For example, he got 4 shots of the useless and completely unnecessary Hep B vaccine.

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ForkInSocket's avatar

Anecdotally I know of a bunch of non usa people from central and south America who flew here to get shots, crazy as that might seem. In sure those are counted as usa people

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AnnekeB's avatar

I’ve been wondering a lot about this…. I know a lot of people who are unvaxxed and I find it hard to believe that I just happen to be in an abnormal pocket in a blue state (Maryland).

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Igor Chudov's avatar

And you are not alone, not isolated, and not even a tiny minority.

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Amy H.'s avatar

AnnekeB tjsplace You are not alone and we will hold the line over this medical tyranny!! I’m in MD (a majority red county) and my non-vaxxed best friend lives in Sussex county DE. I’m glad to see that others near me are here on Substack (thank you Igor for your research and reporting!) and are fully aware of what is happening in our society. My immediate family is all unvaxxed. I will never get this covid jab… I expect my employer to resume with enforcement of the OSHA mandate with the recent 2-1 ruling from the 6th circuit court of appeals. I work remote but my husband would be subjected to regular testing and masks. This is all such BS and I pray for better days ahead for our country. My husband and I are planning to eventually move to a red state. MD is in the toilet politically with our RINO Governor and Demorat representatives and senators.

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tjsplace's avatar

I am in Delaware, and in the southernmost county (Sussex) where I live, most people I know are unvaxxed and intend to stay that way.

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baboon's avatar

I live in France and I do not believe the numbers here. Also, they seem to jump ridiculously, I think I read 80% a week ago and now 90%?

A lot of people here are completely brainwashed (a recent study found that the average person here thinks Covid has a CFR of 16%!) but restaurants are pretty empty. I've been to Burger King a couple of times, as I'm not allowed in restaurants and can only get take away. The restaurants are quite empty, and the queue for the drive in is very long. It would normally be the other way round.

It's pretty confusing to be honest.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Do you know if you can get a fake vaccine record in France? Be recorded as vaxed while NOT getting the actual death shot?

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baboon's avatar

I don't know, I wouldn't do that anyway because it's still complying with tyranny. I'm also terrified of going anywhere near a vaccine centre!

I do know that one of my business partner's contacts can get EU certificates that are on the system digitally. This is done at a MUCH higher level than going to a doctor or vaccine centre. They cost a few hundreds euros. I suspect this is how the rich/celebrities are able to travel without ever actually being vaccinated.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Great, a few hundred euros is expensive, but ruined health is even more expensive.

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baboon's avatar

The other thing I heard (from another source) is that you can only buy a fake digital certificate if you aren't already on the system. I don't know if this is true but it would make sense.

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Dee's avatar

Damn, where's a hacker when you need one? I'd love to see these vax databases hacked so they're FUBAR!

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Dee's avatar

Doesn't that tell you something, that the restaurants are empty but the drive in is long? Could it be that the Powers That Be are lying, and what the "average person" thinks is false? Have you heard of the concept of astroturfing?

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Michelle.'s avatar

Another possibility; many of those people in drive-through are actually vaxxed but still scared to go out in public. I know several people like this.

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Dee's avatar

Yes, it's sad.

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baboon's avatar

Of course I agree with you, my point was that a lot of people here are seriously brainwashed as well. There are a lot of anomalies that don't make much sense.

It could be for example, that people are vaxxed but don't use the "health pass"/"pass of shame" because they are ideologically opposed to it. I hope that makes sense.

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Dee's avatar

Yes, it does, but that is seriously fucked up.

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baboon's avatar

It is an absolute disgrace, I agree.

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Richard Seager's avatar

You can't even get into a burger king here in NZ

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The King's avatar

I have a distant relative, and MD, who is in jail for medicare fraud. He was allegedly part of a whole ring that got busted.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yeah, it happen a lot :) that s all I am going to say

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CTG's avatar

Have a look at https://www.rintrah.nl/get-ready-for-the-pandemic-of-the-boosted/

Good site. Sorry if it has been posted here before.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

That article is absolutely correct. But itis based on a few days old data and needs to be rewritten, because the new data is EVEN MORE in its favor.

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Tim Lundeen's avatar

The unvaccinated also include those unable to get the vaccine for health reasons, especially older nursing-home residents near death.

Good articles on healthy-user bias at vaccinepapers.org.

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