Twice higher than Delta
The South African health official said yesterday that there has not been even one single case of severe illness from Omicron, and that she was shocked by the world-wide hysteria. Am I missing something here? I don't understand this post.
It’s a warning to small nations not to cancel orders from Pfizer! You never know when a brand new variant might just show up, like 2 days post order cancellation for instance. Talk about coincidence, it’s enough to make one a conspiracy theorist.
The November 25 initial spike was likely a data artifact when they added the antigen tests. But the cases are rising fast, which is concerning.
If Omicron is mild, most people had minimal symptoms and were not tested. The CFR is not as meaningful as the IFR...and we don't know the denominator of infections.
Another confound is the testing rate. If they are testing at a much higher rate than they were before, the rise in "cases" might be another data artifact.
South Africa also has a very high rate of HIV infection, which might increase their fatality rate.
I think it's too early to set our hair on fire.
News stories say they don't know if the rise in hospitalizations is from the Omicron variant or not. If people were dying at a fast rate there, the media would be all over it--it would be a bonanza for them and they'd be foaming at the mouth, Fauci would be dancing. This is interesting but I think we need more data.
Is comparing CFR between countries so different a sound approach? Since I understand cases to be positive tests, (correct me if I am wrong) wouldn't different testing rates explain a lot in the difference between CFR? (Smaller denominator, bigger CFR, and visa-versa.) Also, could it be that Omicron is milder and many cases go untested and unrecorded because of mild symptoms?
Just a layman trying to make sense of conflicting signals.
Oh, and I do believe that the government will find a reason to cause panic. I mean why should they stop now?
Pretty sure there's absolutely no way to even attempt this kind of analysis yet. Just to give 2 impossible to reconcile confounders:
1. WHO indicates no confirmed deaths from MORONIC yet. https://www.newsmax.com/us/covid-omicron-infections-south-africa/2021/12/03/id/1047293/
2. The massive spike in cases from SA coincides precisely with a change to include rapid test results as cases.
Unless they've changed the process & & incentives dramatically, US #s are pretty useless. When every death is categorized as covid, even when its due to the pseudo-vax, who can tell?
There's no such thing as Covid beyond the mad schemes of megalomaniacs.
Omicron is the absurd sequel to the original fraud. It's being used to pimp fear and drum up more sales for a dangerous product and cover up the mass harm the mRNA injections are causing.
The only thing that told you that you "had Covid" was a bogus PCR test.
What happened in 2020 was simply that the flu was re-branded and repurposed- the term Covid-19 was invented to turn the seasonal virus into the equivalent of the mythical “Al-Qaeda” meaning to terrorize the population with the false construct of a boogeyman.
This was done as the Western economies were in total free fall in late 2019 and the plan to digitize the economies of The West had to be rushed through lest the collapse be seen for what it was- the by-product of decades of Ponzi schemes by the Wall St. parasites and their allies.
The Virus™ is superfluous, just like the Swine Flu scamdemic of 2009. All they needed to do was create the perception of a pandemic/mass panic with staged Hollywood productions, doomsday models, and the fraudulent PCR test to manufacture the cases/falsely attributed as “Covid deaths.”
What are the testing criteria for determining Covid 19 positivity in SA and who is deciding & administering these in SA? There has been radio silence on much of Africa for much this "pandemic". Much like Sweden. And much like Sweden, overall they have fared better than the "more advanced" western world (as a whole). Not long ago media started reporting their surprise that Africa was doing better with low vaccination rates than the western world. After all, Africa has only had easy access to HCQ and IVM (along with less processed foods). There was even a quote somewhere from an African official along the lines of they have real diseases to deal with over there like AIDS, HIV, TB, and Malaria, so they don't have time to deal with our imaginary diseases. Is SA the opportunity to get the rest of Africa to buy in? To frighten the rest of us into compliance? The stone cold truth I yet doubt due to the steady stream of misinformation from "trusted government agencies" who have screwed up everything else? I don't know, but these are the thoughts that popped in my head when Omcircon "appeared" in SA and the claim was it is new (some evidence, maybe accurate and maybe not, suggests it has been around a while).
I am very intrigued. Watching this unfold with interest.
Yeah. I don’t think so. Omicron is nothing.
“ South Africa’s general Case Fatality Rate is about twice higher than in the United States. The most likely explanation for this is that mild illness is not detected or recorded correctly.”
What if South Africa is actually testing properly because they have real problems to deal with, and not just first world problems, so they are unphased by catching a cold?
I truly hope it doesn’t come to these numbers.
The statistics and CFR are incorrect. There are many more people who do not get tested, and PCR tests give out false negatives if you have mild covid at the time of test (like just only a headache which majority people get from mild covid). They should do a random antibodies test in the population as they did in Germany beginning 2020:
"A team at the University of Bonn has tested a randomized sample of 1,000 residents of the town of Gangelt in the north-west of the country, one of the epicenters of the outbreak in Germany. The study found that two percent of the population currently had the virus and that 14 percent were carrying antibodies suggesting that they had already been infected — whether or not they experienced any symptoms. Eliminating an overlap between the two groups, the team concluded that 15 percent of the town have been infected with the virus."
Yet there is little evidence to support that statement, some scientists say. “The idea that if we had vaccinated more in Africa, we wouldn't have this: I'd like that to be true, but we have literally no way of knowing,” https://www.science.org/content/article/where-did-weird-omicron-come
Omicron variant was first detected on or about November 9th in Botswana from visitors to their country and to date there have been a "few" confirmed cases (PCR can distiniguish Omicron variant) in USA and many other nations, so the transmissability seems NOT to be high and the illness seen in omicron infected people has been mild. So, where is the basis to make any assumptions at this point about anything omicron. And, pushing vaccines and boosters based on, and designed for Alpha variant may not be a good thing.