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Gary's avatar

I can't help but think of what Mark Twain said--"it's easier to fool people than it is to convince people they've been fooled."

TomL's avatar

Those who are deceived do not know it by definition.

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George Grosman's avatar

I admire your saintly patience. I've told all my confused covidiots to find a new friend. As you might guess, I'm a pretty lonely dude these days :) Fortunately, my lovely wife and both my grown daughters have seen the light. Makes life easier. That, plus people like Monsieur Chudov here on the "Stack"

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Meme's avatar

Please share the expression en Français...

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Dosha's avatar

One person does make a difference! I am glad my kids, (daughter now preggie) did their own research and shunned all the touted shots. Hubby's adult daughters/niece, not so much. One of his daughters basically plugged her ears when I advised her to check out some of the sources, after saying her father should get vaxed now that he had recovered from C19. For the sake of peace, I have distanced myself from her, my tolerance for stupid seems to be used up, for now.

Ely's avatar

As I tell many, it’s like knocking on cabin doors on a burning ship. Some will slam the door in your face, others will listen and perhaps question you, yet others will race out the door and follow you. You can’t change anyone unless you tell people there is a burning ship.

George Grosman's avatar

But the ship IS burning. The vaccines are a total sham. We are being lied to on every front. How much hotter does it have to burn for people to head for the life boats?

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Well, after all, Krishna tricked Arjuna. Just because there's no thing here and we are all dying anyway, doesn't mean you have to launch the war, unless it's the one thing you must do. I am called to be at peace. And still my ego wants to yell out: "Open your eyes to see, your ears to hear, your nose to smell the BS."

I try to remember that I've bought into plenty of bs in my life and called plenty of counternarrative things conspiracy theory, etc.

Ahhh, I say, there goes me.

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Faith's avatar

That 40 to 60% in the "middle" (not hopelessly under hypnosis) can be reachable after they experience enough contradictions to be willing to try to be objective. Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable state to try to maintain IF their minds are still functional.

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I used to think that a year ago. At this point the unreachables are gone for good. If the quadruple vaxed, double Paxed Fauci can get sick for a MONTH, yet extol the vaccines' greatness, and no one in the mainstream press mocks him....we're toast

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I had exactly the same response from my brother. No matter what excellent info I sent him, he would look it up with his fradulent Leftist "fact checkers" and claim it was disinformation. Now he ridicules and belittles me for listening to the crazy "tin hat wearing" types, so I'm done with him. Conclusion: you can't help those people. The bubble of propaganda and lies they exist in is impenetrable, unless perhaps enough of their own direct experience someday will make them question THEIR fake sources, but from within their Mass Formation Psychosis/ Hypnosis condition, that is unlikely. If they will be civil, you can maintain a relationship, but if they just want to be abusive, forget about them. It's not worth it.

We can't "save" or "rescue" people from their chosen delusion. Take care of yourself, and put your energy towards those who are open to learning.

Lisa@eatrealfood's avatar

Well said, at least we have each other on substack. Btw I wonder what happening with Steve Kirsch. He usually posts everyday and it's been since July 7?

Chipmunk Cheeks's avatar

I have no inside info but did see him last Thursday on the VSRF zoom call. He looked fine; had to bug out early to go to a wedding rehearsal so there is that event presumably over the weekend. He had a session with a "Health Official" yesterday (Dr. Sarah Cody, perhaps?) where he could ask questions regarding the basis for the draconian restrictions. He said the session would be recorded and promised to post it. Can hardly wait!! Also, his latest post of July 7 [The "safe and effective" narrative is falling apart] has been updated a couple of times since the 7th to go from 25 to 30 and now 40 "leading indicators"

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

65 items now. It's fascinating to watch his list grow.

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

He went to a wedding he said on his weekly interview .

Laura Kasner's avatar

I’ve had his emails go to my spam folder. So have many others.

Sharon's avatar

So have mine. Also Alex Berenson's are going to spam folder.

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Faith's avatar

He's probably getting ready for his live event in Sacramento.

aromagal's avatar

I still get 2-3 emails a day from him and I'm not even a paid subscriber!

Hissing Sid's avatar

Same here. My brother and I aren't speaking any more. The usual insults. Now I bore him apparently. No getting through.

Meme's avatar

My brother no longer speaks to me. His wife (Mid 50’s) is currently recovering from her 4th stroke. He cannot look me in the eye.

Jennifer Beebe's avatar

My brother wrote his two sisters off a year or so ago. We just feel sorry for him and his wife who are vaxxed to the max! Ugh! True Covidians! 😩

The Song of Deborah's avatar

Some of us are not even trying to enlighten friends and family. Simply respecting my decision and not discriminating against me for deciding against a medical intervention would suffice. Instead, many of my friends are afraid to be near me because I'm unvaccinated.

Faith's avatar

When THEY are the hazardous ones!

Faith's avatar

Maybe that's a good thing. They are keeping their shed spike proteins away from YOU!

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Bob L's avatar

My sister has not been very receptive to my efforts either. She considers me a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer now and the relationship is kind of chilly.

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

They have to keep our Branch Covidian friends believing that we're crazy, tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists or else they might not automatically disregard everything we say and then the game is up.

Faith's avatar

It's true: one little crack in their armour and their entire house of cards is at risk. Crash!

It is just too scary for them. IF we are right, even a little bit, then what does that do to the narrative of safety and security they've built up in their minds? They might have to admit that they have been lied to, been fooled into doing something that’s not good for them, something that might even injure them. They might have to admit that their government is evil and is trying to harm them. And perhaps even worse, that the medical system, and their doctors, that they trust so much might not have their best interests at heart. That prospect terrifies them. They might even have to become proactive and take some responsibility for their own health!

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Yup. One friend who refuses to hear out my views wants to visit me but is hesitant to go to the airport because of Covid!

Faith's avatar

The term "antivaxxer" is tossed around so indiscriminately! It's particularly absurd when people get accused of that because they got "vaccine"-injured after the first or sceond shot and now speak out against them to try to warn others. Wait a minute! If they took the shots, how can they be "antivaxxers"!

I got into a discussion one day with a vaxxed and boosted person whom I was trying to warn to not take any more COVID boosters. She tried to counter with an argument about the Smallpox vaccine, like she assumed I was a hardcore anti- all vaccines. I think she was prepared to argue how important the Smallpox vaccine was and that I was crazy for being against THEM. But it stopped her in her tracks when I told her that I have had THREE Smallpox vaccinations in my life (probably more than she has had!). End of argument. I obliterated her entire premise. She could no longer paint me with the "broad brush" of an an antivaxer. Lol!

Bob L's avatar

Yes, my sister's husband used the same overly broad "anti-vaxxer" brush against me when he began telling me that studies have shown no links between autism and vaccines. It's kind of hurtful when family members stereotype me, because I would hope that they understand me better - especially my sister. It's frustrating, because nothing I say to correct their views seems able to penetrate their chuckles, patronizing smiles, etc.

John's avatar

The 'covid' jab is bad but it has a good 200 years of catching up to do before it can be said it is worse than the 'smallpox vaccine' disaster. Dr Vollmer says all 'vaccines' are medical fraud. It does not prevent disease and it never has: https://yummy.doctor/video-list/were-there-ever-any-valid-vaccines-amandha-vollmer/

KIWINUT MIDSIT's avatar

Sadly to continue on the TRUTH PATH .. cutting ties with loved ones is required .. to remain focus ... their perogative .. which will have to learn the hard way

.. from the coffin 😳🥺

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Me Mcc's avatar

Yep, subject change...

Lawrence Butts's avatar

You are right they are gone and will so be really gone. I stay away from the vaccinated. No need to talk to the dead and dying. The world will soon belong to us.

Bob L's avatar

If a significant percentage of the vaccinated die or become disabled in the near future, then everybody will suffer. It will be like the Black Plague in Europe - not good for anybody.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

There is a very real possibility that it will make the Black Death look like a Sunday walk in the park with your dog. 5.9 billion humans are injected with at least one shot of poison. How many will become disabled or die? Hard to say? Pick any percentage and it will be millions that will need to be cared for or buried. This is a human race altering event.

Hilary Wallace's avatar

Yes I agree. I have seen shocking predictions of 700 million deaths over the next 5 years. I’ve no idea whether there’s any substance to this but we’re all in for a very big disruption to our lives if this is going to happen. I’m not sure how we will even survive emotionally as many have close family members who have taken the juice.

KIWINUT MIDSIT's avatar

Its ours still, as the chosen discerned ONES ... the world sadly is sieving through the weak under the thumb of EVIL ..... TRUTH will prevail .. as it is being revealed by these WARRIOR TRUTHER EXPERTS ... as we ingest in their material as VITAL sources to aide us as we continue THIS NARROW PATH .... HUMANITY HAS NO INKLING HOW SEVERE THE UPCOMING YEARS as the fallen will literally drop into their graves 🥺🥺🥺😥😥😥 GOD BLESS THE WARRIORS STILL STANDING 🤜🤛👊💚💙

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Faith's avatar

When even a quarter of the population is dead or disabled (off the freeways! ) THEN it will be too obvious to continue to ignore. They will have to look around and say, "What's going on?". Then they will remember everything the Tin Hat Conspiracy Theorists told them that they thought was so outlandishly rediculous. And then the sinking feeling in the stomach sets in: Uh oh!!!!

Meme's avatar

I could’ve written these words myself as I’ve had the EXACT same scenario play out with my friends.

It’s occurring so frequently now it has created somewhat of a crisis in my own mind. These are folks I respected and falsely believed the respect was mutual. I was absolutely certain they were highly intelligent only to discover they possess truly enormous blind spots, WILLINGLY!

Above all else I assumed there existed mutual trust where clearly none exists. At all. Devastating 😟

Ema's avatar

Same here..but I' learning to enjoy my own company and, last but not least, to weigh people a bit more

Marcella Nelson's avatar

My dad used to say that if he was alone at least he was in good company.

Datagal's avatar

The silver lining since 2020 is we now know who our true friends are and who we can rely on if ever “lost in the woods”. If the predicted food and energy shortages materialize, we will know who to work together with to get through it. Fuck the rest of them.

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Excellent point. IF we end up in a societal collapse situation, one wouldn't want to be surrounded with paranoid vaxxed Sheeple. Too irrational.

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Faith's avatar

You are absolutely right that there is a "bigger picture".The REALLY Big Picture is that we are ALL ONE, we incarnate (over and over) into these physical bodies with roles to play; we interact and have (hopefully) a great time here as creators of our environment and becoming "Masters of Limitation". Then when we leave again, we remember who we really are and that EVERYTHING here was for our BENEFIT! And we all love everyone completely, including for the great jobs they did playing their roles and allowing us to learn SO much while here in this time-space reality, even if their role required them to do really bad things to us here. We are infinite beings and nothing can really harm us.

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That is a great position to take during "normal" times, but when things get crazy, those same people could turn on you in a heartbeat. Irrational is irrational. The hypnotized masses do things like turn in their neighbors to the Secret Police "for the good of society". Are you "unvaxxed"? Then "Off to the Concentration Camps with you!"

History tends to "repeat itself", or at least rhymes with itself. We have seen all that before!

In 2022 we already saw it in Australia, for God's sake!

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

“ created somewhat of a crisis in my own mind.”

Nicely put. You’re not alone in this at all.

Faith's avatar

It's important to maintain perspective and a certain level of detachment. As one of my favorite NLP teachers liked to say (frequently):

"OH WELL!".

Also, when something upsetting happens, I like to ask myself, "Is this going to matter a hundred years from now?"

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I think it is better to find out where people are truly "at" with you than to continue a relationship under false pretenses. It is like the Biblical separation of the "sheep from the goats" . . . (which makes no sense to me. I like sheep AND goats! Lol!)

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Faith's avatar

How do you maintain a relationship if someone is deceptive/dishonest with you? How do you guess at what kind of response to make if you are never sure they are telling you the truth? Just smile and nod? PRETEND you believe them?

Me Mcc's avatar

Evidently this is the first time that you've had friends that betrayed trust. Congratulations. I do know that it hurts.

Meme's avatar

I’ve had friends in the past who’ve betrayed my trust, those folks are quickly deleted out of my life. I just don’t have time for bullshit.

The peeps I’m referring to in my previous comment are my CLOSEST friends, people I’ve hung with for 25+ years. This was my inner circle. We haven’t always agreed on every little thing, but the Rona fiasco has revealed a side of my best friends that I had never seen before. A sort of uber utilitarian philosophical bent of sacrificing for the greater good. It’s 100% contrary to my belief system...I guess times have been so good that we were never really tested in this area prior to covid.

The final straw for me came during our last conversation. We were discussing medical ethics and Fauci’s complete lack thereof. My friend’s multiple comments revealed a haughty and arrogant presumption regarding Americans who live in the Deep South being too dumb to know what’s best for themselves. Her words literally smacked of eugenics. This garbage spewed from the mouth of a triple-vaxxxed hardcore Moderna Devotee. I was stunned speechless. It’s such a mind fuck that I have NO idea how to even approach the divide between us.

So now I’m down to two friends and my immediate family. I gotta start all over and find new people.

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I bloody hate it when people do that and over-generalise or black and white things.

My mother always used to have a go at me whatever I did or said because I either ALWAYS or NEVER did or said something.

No in between, EVER.

I have noticed a similar trend recently especially with the ALL or NOTHING way of thinking on TV news.

For example -

"everybody loved lockdown because they got to bake banana bread"

"all young people are hooligans and have no respect for their elders"

"nobody cares about vulnerable people so everybody is selfish"

I live in the UK, there are something like 65 million people on this collection of islands and I can guarantee you that there is nothing that either EVERYBODY or NOBODY agrees on.

I hope I am making sense but it is something that has really bothered me since this pandemic started and my goodness it feels therapeutic to put it into words.

Sorry for hijacking your thread BTW.

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Since I live in the deep South, thanks for sticking up for us, lol. Wow on the arrogance of that person.

Yeah, it has opened our eyes a great deal. What I also find disturbing is people are now scared to say anything contrary to the mainstream narrative. I'd go further, but have a headache this evening and can't think much. Sorry. Suffice it to say that people are culling themselves willingly at this point.

Datagal's avatar

You are not alone, Meme! Please seek to find “your new people”, as I have. Keep some old friends strung along in case you want them in future. But screw the rest. Do what’s best for YOU and not others.

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

You’re so patient. She’s obviously rather taken with herself so it would come as depressing news to her to know that Harvard was taken over some years ago by Tribalists (5 out of 8 Ivy League now) and admissions spread, quality and examination standards have plummeted accordingly.

Patty's avatar

Good news is that evil always implodes on itself eventually.

Candis's avatar

The bad news is that it takes a lot of people down with it in the process.

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

Ah, just saw this after my remark. ;)

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

Well that’s not necessarily good as a lot of innocents, innocence and beauty tend to get mulched along the way.

KIWINUT MIDSIT's avatar

Harvard Yale I think supposedly elite med schools are the premises to indoctrinate the pill pushers ... according to AMAZING PSYCHIATRIST DR RIMA LAIBOW ... CHECK OUT HER THRILLING SPEEL BACK IN 2013 👇

,https://youtu.be/V3cvqrNvcR8

JD's avatar

Yes, she was very amazing - dead now! How many others who have tried to warn us are dead?

KIWINUT MIDSIT's avatar

Shit really??? Hv you link to this ... I ONLY JUST WATCHED THIS DAYS PRIOR ... OH NO!!!

SO THIS IS AN UNNATURAL DEATH ... I PRESUME ... OH NO! PLEASE FORWARD ANY LINK RE HER MENTIONING THIS ... LIKE DR ZELENKO WAS ONE OF THE TOP MDs I HOLD IN HIGH ESTEEM

Merrilyn  Stanger's avatar

Thanks. . Will check it out . Have you heard Great Barrington Declaration ? Rejected by Fauci . Stand out Proff , ‘dangers of lockdowns ‘

John's avatar

I thought it was controlled opposition. "Focused protection" sounds like targetting minorities. Peggy Hall also seems to have doubts about it: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1tP5Pqw7Slov/

JD's avatar

What are Tribalists? I've never heard that term.

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

Jewish groups of networked influence.

Truthbird's avatar

Wow. Can't believe I just read that. Or maybe I can.

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Me Mcc's avatar

You're good to try, but there comes a time when people choose. I hope she gets better - and, like with my best friend and her whole family who got the jabs - but you might want to change subjects. Help her in other ways but drop the covid subject.

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Bee Grandison's avatar

GoD Bless you for being a true friend.

TnDoc's avatar

Absolutely... She has PTSD and that certainly affects clear thinking. A child on the Spectrum is enough stress for any person.

Me Mcc's avatar

Depends on the child - I have experience with many who are a joy. Of course if they quit giving the kids shots that are piggy-backed in childhood and overtaxing their little bodies, we might have less of this happening. Well, that and take the lead out of the toys coming from China that the kids put in their mouths. The fastest way to take down a nation - disable its old, disable its young, force a jab on the able-bodied people so that they are weakened, get rid of their oil supply, get rid of their food supply, create division regarding sex and race, get rid of religion, monitor their every move... does anyone else see this right ?

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Yes- your Harvard trained friend has watched so much TV that she thinks any illness a vaccinated person gets is from the unvaccinated. She should be able to remember that from the invention of the vaccine until 2021, a vaccinated person was immune to the disease which he was vaccinated for. And nothing has changed since them except: THESE VACCINES DO NOT WORK!

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Remind such people that these are not 'vaccines' in any way that resemble live-attenuated vaccines (measles mumps etc). These are mRNA transfections. That is a biological fact. Also comparing a respiratory virus to other viruses is also incorrect.

Transfections cannot create mucosal immunity and by the looks of it, humans do not typically create sterilizing immunity to coronaviruses (it may be evolutionary maladaptive to make long-lasting antibodies to a highly mutable, infectious virus).

The list goes on and on...

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Interesting, isn't it, that the bioweapons developers settled on using a Coronavirus as their model to weaponize. Apparently they knew the potential was there to make something that would be impossible to stop, and deadly to try. As early as January 2020 I was warning all my friends about this virus and telling them, "It's impossible to stop a virus like this and every human on Earth will end up catching it" 'till they got sick of hearing it. They thought I was being over-the-top dramatic, but here we are.

IF the Globalists hadn't deployed their bioweapon shots, we would have been at herd immunity probably by a year and a half ago. But that wasn't the point, was it?

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Yes- and the symptoms of a coronavirus are so vague-a cough, a sneeze, etc-that they have a reason to suspect every human being of being a carrier. This promotes mRNA sales, which creates profit and eventual control via digital passports. They have attempted to create panics about RSV for the same reason, and will again. Both RSV and covid mRNA injections are prospective additions to the lucrative childhood vaccine schedule, which creates recurring revenue as kids are born, and a liability shield for any vax addrd to the children’s already overburdened shot schedule. They have no limit to how many injections they believe a child should receive, literally. Now it is 72 doses and counting. Insanity.

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Remember that all the attempts to manufacture vaccines against SARS-CoV-1 resulted in a lot of dead animals in the tests, from ADE--- Antibody Dependent Enhancement. There are some veterinary vaccines against Coronaviruses, (maybe they don't care when some of the animals die?) but there has never been a successful vaccine against a human Coronavirus.

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Exactly, and the mRNA technology didn't change that a damn bit.

Nancy's avatar

And they cause long term harm!

Joe Kosugi's avatar

Thanks! So true. See Mark Crispin Miller on substack for lists of ‘ unexpected deaths’, not from accidents, but people, often very young, just falling over dead, or waking up dead, with no obvious cause of death.

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Because, of course, they are NOT vaccines. Lets all just call them what they are: "gene transfer drugs". Death shots/clot shots work pretty well, too!

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The following discusses brain damage. Its for real after the jabs. Think about it. They cross the blood brain barrier. We have tons of capillaries in the brain foe which the spike proteins damage. Air flight students are dropping out bc their cognitive processes are damaged and they can’t complete the course!

https://www.americaoutloud.com/covid-vax-brain-damage-cover-up-by-big-pharma/

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Look at Biden...that shows it all. Look at Pelosi. Look at Feinstein. None should beer in office after the jabs. There is a definite difference.

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I have the same problem with college educated friends. Glad I failed out because of my drinking. Got sober shortly after. I have an integrative medicine doctor now & he works with a chiropractor. He’s helping me have quality of life after over 20 years of neglect by insurance dictated doctors. My mom calls him a quack. I’d be dead already from mold biotoxin illness if not for him.

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If the Globalists get their way, the doctors of the future will be AI robots! Imagine how more "out in left field" they will be than even the typical "robot-minded", Big Pharma-indoctrinated, corporate-employed, MDs of today. Big Pharma medicine isn't "healthcare", it is whatever generates the most profit "disease-maintenance". But then, if the Globalists get their way, we will all be dead.

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Merrilyn  Stanger's avatar

Not all as Stanford med professors just got nowhere with their science and govt ! Perhaps some brainwashing , mass hypnosis has worked on med professionals too ?

this little authoritarian's avatar

Biological reality is gonna be a bitch.

Many of these folks think we're the science deniers but everyone I've encountered that talks that way hasn't read a damn thing about the immunology of respiratory viruses. I'm no expert but at least I know a thing or two about the innate immune system (NK cells, macrophages, dendritic cells, circulating igA), ADE, OAS, types of vaccine, mRNa transfections, pseudouridine, etc etc..

They know "antibodies".

Meme's avatar

This.

And on top of “antibodies” my former friends actually believe it’s the dirty stubborn/selfish unjabbed driving all of the variants.🤦🏻‍♀️

this little authoritarian's avatar

Two words for such folks :

Natural selection.

Seriously, how does a non-sterliziing vaccine prevent variants? It doesn't.

Not only that but this is a swarm of viruses, not just one and they are always there. They don't adapt, they are already there thanks to random mutation. They simply take advantage of the host eco system. If everyone has the same generic response ( these 'vaccines' ) and the virus is already widespread then guess which variants succeed....

It's pure projection. If anything it's the highly vaccinated groups that are the breeding ground for more infectious and potentially virulent variants. Science.

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Good for you! My covid experience was pretty heavy but I got some meds and recovered nicely.

I think there's a misconception that people think those of us who refused these mRNA transfections all think covid is " just a cold". Sure it might be for many but the point is that just because it has risks doesn't mean you jump all into a novel technology that has no long term safety of effectiveness data in the middle of a pandemic.

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I have the same experience. Circular reasoning, too. Anyone who questions the dogma is a quack. If any evidence goes against the dogma, it must have been generated by quacks. Or, so now you’re a conspiracy theorist? Or, if this information were valid, we would have already read about in the mainstream sources. Or, so now you’re anti-science?

Faith's avatar

But they are the ones who took the death shots and will be removing themselves from the gene pool.

Here's a thought: maybe future generations of humans will be very difficult or impossible to hypnotize--- "survival of the fittest".

Faith's avatar

Amazing, isn't it!

And all of this was SOOOO carefully planned/wargamed to try to checkmate all opposition.

But the Globalists have only gotten that maybe 30% in their "Mass Formation". They have thoroughly lost the rest of us!

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It really is a waste of time trying to break through the barrier of cognitive dissonance. I tried my hardest last year before half my close family got vaccinated. I thought I might be hearing a little ‘sorry, you were right’ (not that I need to hear this but it would just be such a relief to see that we were on the same page at last) when they got covid, passed it on to me and had a worse case than me. But it never came. I have stopped even mentioning the ‘V’ word and hope that, even although they might not want to admit it, that the font go ahead with more this Autumn. I realise that I am powerless to do anything!

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I understand & I kept trying anyway. My mom has a history of telling me how smart I am yet not believing a word I say until she hears it from another source. (Her mind was broken years ago by her CIA abusive father)

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Glad you looked out for her!💌

Julia's avatar

I resorted to explain things in my own words (sources are for my own use to be better informed), better in real time, in person or over the phone. Links are useless and take too much time to read/watch. Dr Mercola himself is a fearmonger, fear porn is not a good source to use with a fearful person.

The best thing to dispel fear is being a role model yourself. I lived my life normally for 2.5 years, congregated with many people, was never scared, never took the shots, never had "covid"... (which, at this point, is some silly cold). Stop this "covid" drama already.

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Mercola and Gary Null may have some good information and they have done some excellent work, but much of their material is extremely depressing, especially Null on his radio program in the last few months especially. I don't need hope stealing information or futuristic dystopianism.

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TomL's avatar

Depressing dystopian propaganda is worse than agency lies; what if they are wrong?? They seem to be promoting a Nietzschean nightmare where only the "strong" survive. Check out Conrad's "Secret Agent" and the nihilists and anarchists. They never reformed a thing. Unless real solutions are provided with the problems they are worse than useless.

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TomL's avatar

"Between the devil and the deep blue sea!" Falling down to Davy Jones' locker! True navy men can handle their booze (usually)! Ha!

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Nancy's avatar

I have long stopped sending to anyone, including sons. Everyone is a quack or not mainstream or crazy or not fact checked! I’ve given up. Some will never take the blinders off!

Steve's avatar

a source i don't trust...harvard graduates

Patty's avatar

Also known as "mystification" . So many people in this so society are so mystified to begin with. Being mystifies sets people up for all types of addictions, as well as cults and extrinsic religions. We have an estimated 167 million addicts of one kind or another in the US now.

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"Superstition is the religion of feeble minds" - Edmund Burke.

Superstition = a belief maintained despite evidence to the contrary.

It truly is The Cult of Covid.

Faith's avatar

Ala Jim Jones and his Kool-aid.

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The “Covid-stitious”!!

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I bet the addiction numbers are actually higher, especially if you consider the addictive qualities of the opiate-like peptides in type A1 milk (betacasomorphin), and in wheat gluten. That's why Americans get something like half their calories from wheat, and why so many foods combine wheat with dairy! Pizza. Mac and cheese. Cheeseburgers. Cheezit crackers. Ham and cheese sandwiches. Lasagna. Bean and cheese burritos. Spaghetti with parmesan cheese. Cookies and milk. Etc. Etc.

It's all ADDICTIVE and people go into intense cravings-withdrawal when they don't get it!

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Funny, my father was a pathologist and very knowledgeable about diet harms. Once I asked him about the harms of breathing in plastic fumes in my car interior that get ultra heated sitting in the sun. His reply: “You’re worried about plastics when you eat cereal and milk for breakfast?!” Never forgot that one…

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Umm , think of it , they do !

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One of the drivers behind 'covid' is Mercola in my opinion. This is because he was promoting all the keto stuff. There is talk of free floating anxiety etc. Cutting sugar out of the diet leads to anxiety and stuff. People starving for a sugar. Durianrider covers some of the issues to do with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HhOwlZzvA

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100% agree that low carbing, especially for too long, can be physically ruinous for some people.

I haven’t watched the video link, but can share my own personal experience. I did keto religiously for many years. I was meticulous with my food intake and thought low-carbing was awesome for the first three years, but then it became a real struggle. Feeling very stressed I tried to add a half cup of organic blueberries to my diet only to watch my blood sugar skyrocket out of control. I marveled at the fact that I had become fully diabetic despite not eating any sugar or grains for three years and was NOT fat at 125 lbs. Keto folks said it was merely transitional, that it takes a few weeks of eating carbs for the pancreas to up regulate. I continued with small amounts of organic berries to no avail. I noticed I had very little resilience, became easily stressed out, bitchy and high-strung. Eventually my thyroid tanked, my immune system tanked, my libido tanked, lost my ability to sleep through the night, developed kidney stones from all the “healthy” kale, spinach, Swiss chard and almonds. In the end I was down to eating one meal a day desperately trying to my control blood sugar, as if that’s the only health metric 🙄 AND I was completely malnourished.

It took me many years to climb out of that metabolic hell hole. Eventually I moved to a sunnier climate where I grow my own oranges and can enjoy all kinds of fresh ripe fruit with no skyrocketing blood sugar, nor kidney stones. Nutrients matter.

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That is really interesting!!! Can you tell us more? So you were strict keto for how many years? Like more than four or five? Were you straight Carnivore for part of it? Did you include organ meats? Fish? Were you taking supplements? Calcium? Magnesium? Zinc? Chromium? Iodine? Vitamin A? Vitamin C? How much? Others? Did you eat spinach, Swiss chard, kale, and almonds for most of the time you were keto? Did you experience joint pains? Digestive upsets?

How did you transition to fruits and what was your blood sugar doing? What are you eating these days: how much fruit and what else?

Your experience sounds like a real "teaching moment" (or a lot of moments!). Thanks!

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People can go pure carnivore for months on end (or more) without "leads to anxiety and stuff". Before they become metabolically adapted to fat burning they may go hypoglycemic IF they are fasting or severly protein restricted (in addition to a no-carb diet), which can produce significant anxiety. Once you fat-adapt that doesn't happen. And remember: excess protein above metabolic requirement cannot be stored and is TURNED INTO sugar.

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Frank Tufano quit the carnivore diet. He said it "almost killed him": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYFwvIrZEI

Rosalind McGill's avatar

Ohh he’s A dedicated vegan. . I need meat , myself.

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Anxiety and stuff? Wow. I don’t do keto but my integrative medicine doctor saved my life by acknowledging my mold biotoxin illness. I had a lot of anxiety when insurance dictated doctors ignored & criticism instead of helping. If ya do keto right, you’re ok. So you vilify Dr Berg too? I respect mercola . Thanks for including the link. Eat pasta and it will digest into sugar, no? Sugar is huge problem in America- look around, so much obesity.

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He is an allopath so doesn't understand health. He thinks just because he finds some studies showing people with low zinc levels get sick all you need to do is supplement some extra zinc. Dr Morse says supplements are a bad idea. You have to fix digestion, absorption, utilization and elimination before you can claim deficiency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJWy5pT5ry8

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Thanks for link. My integrative medicine doctor is very careful what supplements he recommends, my situation, I’m very low absorption rate and leaky gut slowly healing. I asked about glutathione supplements, he said No! Let’s get your body to produce its own. one small example.

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This fad has been around since Atkins, whose body was so fragile that he died after falling on a NYC sidewalk. Digestibility should be the aim not high protein, fat and low carb.

Lentils, pasta with culinary herbs are vital for most people's health. Real sourdough bread is good.

I had a friend who went on a plant based diet and was dead in a year or so.

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Atkins died from a subdural hematoma, I believe. It is pretty hard to not have a "fragile" brain!

Carnivore diets heve been around for hundreds of thousands of years. . . hardly a fad.

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Healthy people don't fall down and die within 24 hours; see if there is any record of an Indian Ayurvedic follower dying like that. Unbalanced diets chock full of proteins are not good, he was pushing them since the 70s.

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My unprofessional Rx for those suffering the ill effects of long covid or of the boosters, etc. would be an intuitive natural approach to jump start the immune system. Let me know what you think?

Bee venom therapy has been shown to be a powerful treatment for arthritis and other auto-immune disorders.

A milder more available treatment is stinging nettle therapy; walk through stands of stinging nettle in shorts and short sleeves so you get a large amount of the stinging nettles to inject their natural healing substances. Not everyone has access to a beekeeper who knows how to deliver bee stings to the forehead, back of neck or temples. That has treated people even with severe neurological disorders such as multiple sclerosis or auto immune disorders.

Of course there are herbal teas which would be specific as well to boost the immune system and nerves.

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Not inflammatory for me as well as many others. Though I like vegetarian foods, had some radish sprouts today. I consume a lot of organic teas like mate and tulsi. I process dairy and quality grains quite well. The reason for the problems are abuses; 95% of the people I see eat junk food.

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We hear this all the time, about inflammation being the root of all disease, but I think we need to "look behind the curtain" to find the CAUSE of the inflammation. Inflammation is just a symptom, and stopping there instead of digging deeper isn't helpful. Except for Big Pharma to sell people anti-inflammatories! What's causing the inflammation? LPS bacterial fragments from a leaky gut? Gut dysbiosis? SIBO? Mercury in dental fillings? Bacterial toxins from gum or dental disease (tooth abcess, jawbone cavitation, root canaled teeth)? Chronically infected sinuses? Food allergies/immune complexes? Oxylates? Lectins? Glutens? Mold toxins? Pesticides? Environmental toxins? Chronic infections from Lyme disease or other parasite-born pathogen? Chronic viral infection (Epstein Barr, herpes, etc.)? Spike proteins from COVID fake "vaccines"? Adjuvants from other vaccines (aluminum, squalene, mercury)? Aging: senescent cells? Elevated insulin? High blood sugar and glycated proteins (AGEs)? Excessive visceral adipose (fat) tissue? Consuming too much high Omega 6 seed oils, rancid oils, or trans fats?

If you can't identify the underlying cause, it's very difficult to correct.

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Thanks for clarity & details. (I have brain fog from mold biotoxin illness)

When I stopped my alcoholic drinking, I are as much chocolate as I wanted. Magnesium deficiency, & the craving stopped with a good supplement.

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Dr. Len Horowitz said Mercola was involved with the NVIC. This he says is actually a 'vaccine' industry controlled opposition group:

"The NVIC was founded in 1982 by petrochemical/banking industrialists subverting the purely grassroots Dissatisfied Parents Together (DPT). From there the NVIC’s evolution was based on massive pure propaganda administered principally by current President, Barbara Loe Fisher.

To gain control over DPT, Fisher, allied with vaccine industry lobby-linked attorney Jeffrey Schwartz. They stole the contacts of parents of vaccine-injured children generated by Marge Grant, a mother of a DPT vaccine-injured child who appeared on the Phil Donohue Show. Fisher and Schwartz ousted Grant to form the NVIC that has, ever since, commandeered near exclusive mainstream media coverage of the public’s opposition to vaccinations using the “Big Lie”–that vaccines are generally good. "

https://exposingvaccinegenocide.org/nvic/

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Ely's avatar

It’s also called Psychosis.

Andy Expresso's avatar

Pride one of the seven deadly sins.

Patty's avatar

And.. " You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. " As for this quotes origin. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/11/cannot-fool/

Luke's avatar

Excellent quote! Let me give you another one.

“Only the small secrets need to be protected; the really large secrets are hidden by the public’s incredulity.”

jj's avatar

Snopes, really? They are not trustworthy

Neko Ferro's avatar

Fine, then produce the quote from Twain in an actually published book, letter, speech etc. I'll be waiting.

jj's avatar

I was not claiming it to be Twain, merely criticizing your source.

Neko Ferro's avatar

The point remains. The original author of this thread was criticizing the critical thinking skills and overall intelligence of the masses, while in the same breath incorrectly attributing a quote to a celebrity, in order to appeal to authority.

It's ironic and I can't help but comment on it.

Gary's avatar

Fact checkers are rarely concerned with facts. Thanks. Regardless, it's a good saying.

Sean's avatar

Well, if Snopes says it isn't so, then ...

Stevie D's avatar

What do Snopes,

Wikipedia,

CDC, WHO, WEF, UN,

MSM, all have in common?

TomL's avatar

Does it matter what the source was?

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Faith's avatar

Hey, didn't you believe the Eggspurts when they told you to wear masks (two of them!), anti"social distance", slather up in hand sanitizer, hide out in your house, and wait for the magic vaccines that would save you? And then, of course you DID dutifully take the shots, DIDN'T you? And then another one, and another one, and another one . . . Oh! You're dead? You must have gotten exposed to one of the evil UNVACCINATED!

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Speaking of hand sanitizer, thank goodness the cops in Uvalde school had some for that hour they waited for the Transgender to slaughter innocent Hispanic kids so the Left can take our guns away.

Patty's avatar

Neither did Lincoln say this, but they are still both very true . " You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. " https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/11/cannot-fool/

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I would hardly say it had been easy to fool people. Vast efforts were taken over decades and even millenia to build up the belief in 'virus's'. Entire school systems needed to be set up. Social media infiltrated and established. Newspapers bought out. Millions of references placed in movies etc. etc. It was like a bomb that was waiting to explode and all it took was a few propaganda videos to set it off. The population were like sleeper cells fully indoctrinated and trained ready to attack. A terrorist network spanning the entire globe with practically every angle covered and exit blocked. Stefan Lanka talked about the history leading up to this meterialistic ideology at the healing conference 2021: https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/Healing-Conference-2021_Stefan-Lanka:a

jj's avatar

((They've)) been working on it for quite some time

Claire's avatar

What we need is a cruise with only unvaxed guest. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣‼️

Karl Childers's avatar

You mean a control ship

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I wouldn't miss that party for the world!

'I want to have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames!'

- Jim Morrison

Disillusioned But Optimistic's avatar

HI Ryan, I just realized your last name - Gardner! I'm sorry, but you're a goner bro'!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You're soooo mean!

Love ya Guurl...;)

AcornMama's avatar

I’m in

Dr Linda's avatar

I could use a break

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup. I don't have anything laying around I haven't already broke.

Need a break from breaking shit!...;]]

George Grosman's avatar

A logical idea but I wouldn't get on a cruise - Covid or no Covid. There's always the norovirus, food poisoning, pools packed with filthy hoi polloi - fuggedaboudit 😂

KIWINUT MIDSIT's avatar

Ummm the 5G POTENT UNITS ON BOARD AS WELL TURNED ON ... FOR PASSENGERS TO USE 😜🤪

Stevie D's avatar

And the midnight buffet. Yikes. All those dirty hand touching everything and eating like they didn't eat the other 5 meals that day. Disgusting!

Faith's avatar

Well, I've only been on one cruise, and there were no "adverse effects". Ate Escargot for the first (and only) time! Lol!

George Grosman's avatar

I just don't like people that much. A bad quality to have on a cruise 😉

Claire's avatar

And I’m convinced that all the plastic in the sea can’t be getting there from ground. They’re all dumping their garbage in the sea anyways. It’s official. Boycott cruises‼️

Claire's avatar

I agree. “The Petrie dish”‼️😂🤣

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We had it at the very start of the pandemic. The diamond princess cruise ship. If only we had all simply observed those people. The death rate was very low, nowhere near what the media has claimed throughout this pandemic.

Faith's avatar

Exactly! And primarily in Seniors with comorbidities. Which is why those facts weren't widely disseminated. God Forbid the public get the truth!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Full circle.

But they'll do it again...ad infinitum

Julia's avatar

It's equally controlling passengers.

I want one which doesn't care about vx, "testing" and has a psychiatrist on board, to treat everybody who starts hysterically screaming about "covid".

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lol - funny how the covid symptoms can range from cold-like to diarrhea to stomach upset. They don't even know what's happening until the "test for it." In quotes because the PCR tests are faulty. I'm ready for people to be able to get sick and then get over it. When were we all supposed to not get colds, viruses?

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The early variants of COVID were a bitch--- not exactly a "cold", at least for us elders. Omicron is almost a different disease.

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It did seem really bad, but then again, hospitals where being paid to inject you with Remdesivir, flood your lungs with fluid, and kill you.

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I remember. And that was the first time I was taken a little aback by Trump being so aggressive to produce them in mass. While operation Warp Speed was something we can only expect from a private sector entrepreneur, it was not properly vetted and of course we had those 2 morons out in the press every day talking about 15 days to slow the spread.

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Yes, I also saw that and started to learn just how evil are the hospitals. He clued in a lot of us!

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That's how it seems - alpha is bad, goes to like a sinus infection or stomach virus afterward. My mom ended up on a vent. I (in my 50's) had a mild flu that made me really tired. The variants are coming with them giving the "vaccines" and not understanding that they are teaching the virus to mutate - well, we really know that they do understand and don't care.

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PROOF that they don't care: all the FDA and CDC "Advisory Panel" meetings that voted to NOT approve the shots and the agencies just charged ahead like irate bulls and approved them anyway! True "bull"!

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If the COVID shots weren't bioweapons that the Globalist-types want to kill us with, and the governments, in cahoots with the Globalists, hadn't deployed extreme and useless "mitigation" measures for the purpose of terrorizing the population into accepting (even clamoring for) the shots, we would have reached herd immunity probably by the end of 2020. Now a major part of the human race is "screwed" and can never achieve effective immunity due to the immune system-destroying action of the spike proteins. So for those who have been attacked and damaged by the "vaccines", there will be no, "get sick and then get over it". It will be "get sick and then get it" and "get it" and "get it" . . . This is utter, diabolical insanity, what has been done to people!

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Call it the Control Ship!

Faith's avatar

No kidding! We would need an "unvaccinated" crew, too. No shed spike proteins anywhere, and people who are actually immune!

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You won't find it - they require all of the crew to be vaccinated. Also, I wonder what happens when those who have had the jabs realize that they need untainted blood? Just a thought.

Joe Kosugi's avatar

Nice;

um, would Fauci or Gates or Scwab be likely to sink that ship and then say, “They all died of Covid”?

Me Mcc's avatar

That sounds good, but the crew has all been required to get it.

Frances Leader's avatar

The rate of sickness would remain the same. The 5G is responsible. No virus, no vaccine. Only extreme electro-magnetic radiation.

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In the early days of the anti mRNA discussions (before they censored and punished us all) I remember that Graphene Oxide particle in the jab, that reacted violently to things like 5G. So just a speculation here, but it would matter if you had that shit in your veins. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Graphene+Oxide+in+covid+vaccine&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

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My point is that the unvaxxed are getting sick from 5G - maybe not dying quite so suddenly, but we are getting sick.

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And it will continue - but 5G is also what many of them have. Funny how Greta, et al isn't going against this technology. Picking and choosing - and then riding on yachts and planes.

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I don't feel bad for people at all. Half of those would have happily supported gulags for the unvaccinated. They willingly and blindly took a questionable shot naively trusting public officials with the integrity of a sleazy guide in a mummy movie. Here's my sad trombone and tiny violin. Lemme play you a sadz piece.

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Completely agree, Mr. Dollar. Those still buying into this nonsense cannot be saved from themselves.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Mr. Dollar -

Be careful man. We have to have the middle or this shit will go on forever.

Think about it

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This is not a good thing to admit to, but I have to confess some schadenfreude when I read these types of stories. Canada recently rescinded its vaccine mandate for planes and trains due to increasing pressure, but kept it for cruise ships "as passengers are together in close quarters for long periods of time". In this, as with everything else, they are simply doing as they please with no science to back it up whatsoever. These types of stories make me smile because it gives the lie to their proclamations.

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Canada. Lol. What a farcical joke of a country filled with court jesters, clowns, knaves and fools.

JD's avatar

Actually, not. Did you follow the Convoy at all. I'd say Canada is filled to the brim with great and wonderful people who believe in God and are trying their best to tell the people wholly in the control of the powers that shouldn't be that we will not accept their lies and destructive policies any longer. The fringe majority is actually pretty awesome!

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Canadians embraced fully the harshest measures and mandates. They fully complied and took obedience for false virtue. They failed every test presented from masks to passports to ignorance of travel bans. They remained indifferent to the tuckers and Emergencies Act and will run for their boosters if the government scares them with passports.

Our officials and judiciary are among the most corrupt buffoons around not serving our country. It's a fraudulent country under these sowers of discord.

The truckers, unfortunately, represented a minority of us. It is only now Canadians are finally waking up to the fact they're being duped but it's too little too late. The government is Covid rogue. Maybe we can turn this ship around but I'm not seeing it.

Not unless we see a round of massive resignations from Justin to Duclos to Tam to idiotic academic experts still peddling fear. And the only way that will happen is if the Canadian people - read the normies - WAKE UP.

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I moved from Canada to the US long time ago. My observation (looking at my brainwashed old friends in Canada) is that propaganda specifically uses anti-Americanism to enforce compliance. Look at those Americans and their sky high deaths numbers, they're all are gun toting, Bible thumping, uneducated rednecks who recklessly spread germs and kill grandmas. As opposed to us, clean and intelligent Canadians believing in science who follow orders, keep their numbers in check and got their vx. I've heard something like this even from people who saw the government tyranny from the start. But ego boosting messages are irresistible.

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1000% correct. Here's how you can summarize the entire Canadian socio-economic and political outlook: 'We're not American'. That's it.

I've been saying for years we do the opposite of America 'just because'.

And Covid is no different.

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You are so right -- I am disgusted with my fellow Canadians!

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Well both countries are acting exactly alike ironically enough.

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Actually, they aren't. There are many parts of the U.S. that are not giving in to the narrative. On the coast of MS, Florida and Texas, there have been very little mask wearing, little shot compliance after the initial push. You all have to choose - and we will die on that hill, if need be. I pray that it doesn't come to that. We'll see what happens after November.

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I lived in Toronto for 30 great years. Moved to the US (Florida) in 2011. All my family lives in CA. But I have vowed not to set foot there as long as that diabolical ArriveCan app is in force

Ryan Gardner's avatar

George -

You are right. We can not stand for having 2nd class citizens.

It is WRONG

Johnny Dollar's avatar

Well, they plan to make it permanent. You're good in Florida. Stay there.

We hope to plan to make a move within the next few years as well. Not that the USA is perfect. They're acting like jerks about the mandates too.

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The US is far from perfect. But it contains states (Florida, Texas, South Dakota) that are as close to perfect as you can get in this upside down clown world

Me Mcc's avatar

And the more you travel the world, the more you appreciate home.

Stevie D's avatar

When all the Democrats switch FLA blue, you will be in the worst possible state.

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Only in certain places - and certainly not to take transportation, like in Canada. All of this blows my mind.

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Governors have term limits

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Your "face" was chosen just right.

David Watson's avatar

That's true most everywhere. But the silent majority is timid and unwilling to protect themselves from tyrants. Courage also improves immune health, and fear degrades it. Vicious cycle.

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Read Mattias Desmet's recently published book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism if you want to understand the underlying dynamic which causes this sick situation. His book is devastatingly powerful. However, he's not hopeless about the situation, which I found surprising. (I'm less sanguine about our future than he is.) This book is required reading for everyone who wants to understand the root causes of our current nightmare.

David Watson's avatar

It's a great book, but those who need it most can't understand it and probably won't read it. They'll need help. Desmet provides good basis for developing a framework for salvaging the cult, and for identifying those that aren't worth saving.

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Yes, David, I agree.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Key:

"aren't worth saving"

They represent opportunity cost.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Truth. I hope everyone reads your post.

So well said David!!!

Stevie D's avatar

But they caved in the end, no?

David Watson's avatar

No, they were overwhelmed by sadistic government and had no support from their cowardly countrymen. They made their point, suffered greatly for it, and nobody cared.

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I cared. Greatly. But I agree with your point. Freedom loving, Self-reliant, critical thinkers seem to have become the minority in the world. Too many are being led down the path of Marxism/Leninism/Socialism without even knowing it. It is their lazy attitude in life that makes large government appeal to them, and they don't want to make decisions. They prefer them to me made for them.

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"Powers that shouldn't be".

Good one!

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Sadly, and I do mean sadly, I cannot disagree with you.

Faith's avatar

Their government, Johnny. Many of the people of Canada are great. They just never had a proper Revolution against the Crown. And now they've got a WEF graduate son of Fidel Castro for a dictator. You can't "make this stuff up"! What they need are guns. Lots of guns! And more backbone.

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That's an important point about the revolution or a civil war. Canadians have never had to fight for what they have other than fighting in two World Wars (and doing very well) but we did those under the British Commonwealth not as a fully independent nation. Canada was simply given to them and we had the USA as neighbours. Talk about being born with a good hand.

Canadians are immature and take for granted what we have. We may have to one day to grow up and that time may be soon.

But it doesn't detract from the fact that our behaviour was abysmal and abhorrent during Covid. These were issues of ethics, principles and evidence-based science. We failed.

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Amen to last paragraph. To a lesser degree [Slightly], in some deep purple cities, Americans behaved the same way...and still are.

On the other hand, I have never seen anything as brave as the Trucker Convoy, given the circumstances.

In a way the Truckers free'd America. Take it from an American who's been fighting his ass off for 2.5 years.

Americans may have acted sooner, in a similar circumstance, but only because we have 500 million guns.

And DeSantis certainly helped.

Other than that Americans were weak sauce.

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America disappointed me. My circle of American friends was disappointed as well to see how quickly they bent the knee. It doesn't help Canada any that Washington is in lockstep with our government.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah. Agree.

Honestly Johnny, this is the first time in my life I've been ashamed to be an American.

I'm still ashamed. That's where I think we're at in this battle.

Sometimes it takes revolutions. It wouldn't surprise me.

I'm ready for it down here in Florida

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Chinese seem to love it.

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Yup, I agree , I used to go fishing up there in the summers, but now you can't cross the border with out a vaxx passport! We spend a lot of money there and those fishing resorts depend on US fishermen for their livelihood. I may be wrong but I think a lot of us fishermen and outdoorsmen probably aren't getting the de-pop shot. These covidiots are just great at ruining economies and lives!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

This is true. I'm one of those guys. Not many of them have been too keen on this nonsense.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You forgot twee lil' ninnies...

George Grosman's avatar

Plus 8 months of arctic winters

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Email this story to those Canadian public health officials who insisted on keeping the vaccine mandates for cruise ships. Ask them one question: Why?

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I have lost count of how many politicians and public health officials I've contacted. I suppose it might be worth it to have receipts of the fact they're lying to us and they know it. But their motivations are purely political, nothing to do with public health or science or truth or anything like it.

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One letter doesn't impress them. Thousands of letters impresses them. Tell your friends.

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Your believing that they even read them.

Me Mcc's avatar

The ones who wave the colorful flag and can't decide who is a boy or a girl? The ones who voluntarily say that they're bad because of the color of their skin? Right.

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They are bought - by the spotlight, the self-proclaimed "elitists" or blackmail. They voluntarily (they think not voluntarily in every instance) have given up their souls.

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That's right. Politicians on the Globalist gravy train are never going to listen to us. And its just aggravating to get back their stupid "Thank you for contacting me . . . " form letters. They really must consider us just dumb animals to push around and parasitize.

The very most important thing now is to return to honest elections so we can vote them out! If anyone hasn't seen "2000 Mules" yet, please go watch it! It's free on the internet.

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Most of us are dumb animals. Desmet explains it pretty well.

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Humans communicating with each other are DANGEROUS! The powers that be probably hate these Substacks.

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We talked to people on our train trip, there and back, but it was 3 days each way.

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It appears to me, anyway, that older people are a lot more naturally friendly. The generation after my own started getting indoctrinated with the paranoid "don't talk to strangers" (or you can get, kidnapped, etc.) fearmongering. I think that has something to do with the strange looks they will give you.

Bandit's avatar

I don't know. I got that my entire life. I'm scared to death of people, but often feel compelled to talk to, or at least smile at, them.

Bandit's avatar

Yeah, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, plus my husband hanging out with the dining room crew. (The man never shuts up. 🙄)

Faith's avatar

Vaxx requirements are as rediculous as a restaurant requiring diners to put on a mask when they get up from their table! It is a symptom of a very dumbed down population. They claim to be "following the science", but it is even MORE irrational and unscientific than thinking "man-made" carbon dioxide is going to cook the Earth (when CO2 was over 700 times higher in the past than now!).

Julia's avatar

Cruise ships travel in neutral waters and run under a third country flag like Panama. All they do is pay some kind of a port fee in countries where they stop. They hire international crews and are not subject to control by any country (that's why those trips are cheap). Canada can't control them either, it's just an excuse for them to require vx. They don't have to require it, it's their choice.

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Igor Congratulations! Praying you do not go back to the abusive husband called Twatter, who bets on how 'they always come back'....and they 'beg for it'. Do not give them that pleasure, please. Best

Igor Chudov's avatar

Yep, though temptations are hard to overcome

Dr Linda's avatar

But you are tough!

jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Howsa bout how they will have to work a little

harder to know what you care about and what you

dont instead of giving that away directly to them.

Let that snake eat itself.

But of course as you choose, hills, battles...best

Goldenfoxx's avatar

I'm with Jordan Peterson, I'd rather die than to delete a Tweet. Twatter can go get bent too.

Johnny Dollar's avatar

That's more like the old JP that recent message.

Goldenfoxx's avatar

Jordan got silenced on Twitter, and the only way he can get back on to Twitter is to delete what he said. Jordan gave them the middle finger....me too!

Johnny Dollar's avatar

He was suspended huh. Meanwhile, that lunatic Benjamin Buttenworth remains.

Johnny Dollar's avatar

I think we need more cowbell.

AM Schimberg's avatar

There is just as much scientific backing for that prescription! LOL

Dr Linda's avatar

😂

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Winner!

Disillusioned But Optimistic's avatar

Hi Ryan! Here's a joke for you:

Two elderly gentlemen are relaxing in the sun on a cruise ship. One turns to the other and asks, “Have you read Marx?”

“Oh, yes.” the other replies, “I believe it’s from sitting on these deck chairs”.

Johnny Dollar's avatar

Was that just for Ryan because I read it.

Bandit's avatar

Funny! Thanks for the laugh!

Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Tragically, there is poetic justice in this.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

But I don't think anyone died so it's not that tragic. Even these bad outbreaks on ships rarely produce deaths - and when they do they are usually someone who was 84 with severe co-morbid conditions. And this was pre-vaccine and post-vaccine.

Keyjammm's avatar

The more "boosted" they are, the more likely they will suffer long term complications from their infections.

If the infection is not arrested in a mucus membrane and becomes systemic, a myriad of nasty complications can result.

The "people" who coded this virus are truly diabolical geniuses, the breadth of metabolic and system wide mayhem it creates is mind boggling.

Just scan down the page at the published studies and the seriousness of complications.

It is a bioweapon, no doubt about it!

https://www.thailandmedical.news/articles/news

Cynthia Ford's avatar

FLCCC zoom seminar wednesday, then on Odyssee, will be on clearing the spike protein and autophagy with Dr. Marik and Dr. Been.

baboon's avatar

Hi Bill, are you the same Bill Rice that posts over at Daily Sceptic (previously Lockdown Sceptics)? If so, is there a link to your writing you can share?

baboon's avatar

Thank you Bill, I always enjoy reading your comments and will have a read, much appreciated.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Thanks for the nice words and for taking a look at some of my other writings. I've written many more stories than this. Very few of my articles - actually none - get published at "mainstream" sites as I tend to challenge the "authorized narratives" in just about every piece I write.

trevor's avatar

Pandemic of the vaccinated. Sadly I have an 81 year old friend who's been frightened by the media about a new variant and is going to get the 4th shot. Ironically Australia had virtually no illness until the Government strong armed them into all taking the damned shot.

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

How awful. What dark cynicism to do this to a generation of character and strength late in life.

trevor's avatar

I'm full of anger and hatred for the billionaires who are pushing this. I study history and the level of evil overshadows even Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

Me Mcc's avatar

With Gates, Soros and Schwab leading the packs!

Keyjammm's avatar

Swab et.al. are sock puppets to a group of persons, one of whom is estimated to be worth $500 trillion.

They could have solved world hunger and established a NWO based on love, not evil. They stood by and watched millions of Africans starve to death last century because they wanted the resources. Their greed and superior narcissism is beyond belief, and this evil that assumes lordship of the whole earth, instigated "the great reset" to swallow up your wealth and future.

Cynthia Ford's avatar

Wow, 500 trillion. Their weakness, I think, is their addiction to power and cruelty. They are like hungry ghosts, insatiable, and have to escalate their sadistic circle jerks in order to be satisfied as they'll reach a plateau where their humanity threatens to break through, in their dreams or daily life. They are like crack or heroin addicts only they need to hurt and demonstrate their power in a public way, and to joke about it, feel contempt and disgust, which is really for the lost humanity within them. It is the unarmored place on the belly of the dragon, not to dis dragons. I just found out that the WEF (who, as you say, are too public to be the real power) has taken over Detroit, not with promises to fix education (rats in schools, no heat) or air pollution ( asthma capital of the states) or jobs, but to bring bike lanes and "green" the city, which is code for QR coded zombie populations to live in high rises who will ride bikes as they do at Google. In cahoots with a big corp called Bedrock. At least now I get why there is no medical resistance here except for heavily partisan resistance. Detroit will be the hub for the takeover. Who would want even for a second to be them however? No creativity, no dreams, no faith, no love, just vicious sadistic addicted power psychotics on a gerbil wheel of addiction. Virus mutation that targets the epigenetics of spineless sadists--I'd pray for that!!!!

Faith's avatar

And they are confused, twisted fools to believe what they believe and do what they do. They are completely out of touch with REALITY, and it will catch up with them.

Faith's avatar

Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined were "nothing" compared to the 7½+ billion the Globalists will murder if their sick dreams come true.

Pete's avatar

I guess 80 % of the population are still brainwashed , just like here in Sweden. The health minister has started pushing people to get vaccinated again. What can you say ? Robots would be envious.

Scott's avatar

Wow. Ignorant, I guess? Those Canadians scare the crap out of me. How 'bout that 11th booster, eh?

Nostradamus's avatar

Castrudeau ordered 440million doses (Murderna 25% - Schizer 75%) last year for 38 million beavers.

So, he already has 11 shots per beaver!!!

Scott's avatar

Wow, lucky guess. Fukdeau is so nasty, but I suppose most Canadians are ok with that Castro spawn.

DrugDiscovery's avatar

Nope. It’s a minority government propped by another imbecile from an “opposition” party. The spawn garnered enough ridings, primarily in Toronto and Montreal, to survive another day. However, he poured and continues to pour welfare money around, and effectively bought the media - only positive messages come out of the Ministry of Truth. If anything, Canada has a good part o the populace brainwashed, and his party knows how to take advantage of that. Castreau is detested by many, but it doesn’t need the many to remain in power. That’s the sad situation of Canada.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

you're good. period. full. stop.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I love our Canadian friends, but....here's how you speak like them...

"Please"

"May I"

"Excuse me"

"Thank you"

"Sorry"

"It's all ABOOT the booster"....

Faith's avatar

The government ALREADY ordered enough boosters for every man, woman, and child in Canada for how many years? 'Till 2026 or something? If that's not an indication of premeditated criminal behavior, I don't know what is!

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

I watched that and it was worse than I expected; I had no sympathy at all for the smug “music industry” prick though.

Nostradamus's avatar

Don't try to tell them that Castrudeau is a criminal.

Dr David Martin | Covid Terrorism, Murder, and Racketeering

https://drtrozzi.org/2022/05/28/dr-david-martin-covid-terrorism-murder-and-racketeering/

Wiremu Harpuka's avatar

Quite. It’s beyond me how one could not notice what a repellent turd Trudeau is; it was clear from the eulogy.

DrugDiscovery's avatar

Trudeau IS a criminal. He's been investigated several times by the Ethics Committee.

"Dr Martin states “Any law enforcement official who is doing anything in support of Trudeau is aiding and abetting the criminal acts of the government of Canada, the criminal acts of the University of British Columbia, and the criminal acts of Acuitas, Alcanna and its principles Thomas Madden and Pieter Cullis“.

The University (UBC) actually mandated the vaccine (in a self-serving, "conflict-of-interest" way), and UBC's senate voted to **deregister** students that did not comply by mid February 2022. The Ministry of Higher education had to **intervene** and practically beg UBC to back off (which they did, by instituting an idiotic testing station which, I was informed, failed miserably).

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Pete -

LOL.

Here's what I've been telling my children since they could talk:

"Don't trust robots, some of them are humans"

Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

If the sensible were in charge, what would be a good plan now that almost everyone's jabbed? Obviously stopping the bans, early treatment, no mask mandates, and no lockdowns. But most people's immune systems are hopeless f*ed and they're losing immunity and causing mutations. I bet there's a Fauci mutation on the loose from his double Covid and double Paxlovid (so nice they maimed him twice!). So what would the plan B plan be ...

Stuffysays's avatar

I have no sympathy - that ran out months ago. They all took an injection with no safety data in the middle of an epidemic of a virus which simply modified itself to avoid the jab and so keep infecting the jabbed. Am I right? Everybody who reads articles by people like you worked it out. Everybody else couldn't be bothered, trusted their government, trusted Pfizer etc, wanted to go on holiday. Yes I know, some people took the jab because they would have lost their job. Too high a price to pay. No sympathy. All those self serving smug twats in the media telling people it was a plague & they needed to do their civic duty by wearing a bit of paper on their face or sitting in the garden instead of going to work or injecting themselves with who knows what. Yes, sack the lot of them. Put them in a court of law. But it's not going to happen and the fools on their cruises will continue to tell themselves "thank god I had the jab - imagine how much worse it would have been otherwise".

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i could possibly have some compassion if they hadn't all behaved so badly; hadn't judged, ridiculed, fired, persecuted, mocked, censored, etc those who made a different choice and took heat for it

Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

A friend of a friend was put on Paxlovid right after she tested positive. She said it helped her so much, she got better in a few days! lol

Faith's avatar

And she lucked out that the virus didn't "rebound" after the 5 days course of treatment. Paxlovid is a very expensive scam. Close to $800!

CaliforniaLost's avatar

Adults are one thing, but kids?

Don't be like The Bad Guys and treat children like collateral damage. They are just children, they had no choice.

Faith's avatar

Tell me about it! I cringe every time I see a photo of an innocent little kid geting injected. Those parents are pathetic!

Kevin Brink's avatar

exactly. There were plenty of studies prior to "covid" that showed masks make no difference. I sent those to some people but they were "yeah, but that's the flu". (So?) Hell, with my "medical mask" I could smell candles in the store and smell my farts. Yeah, that's not stopping anything. Also, we knew from the very beginning how non-serious "covid" really is from that cruise ship.

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Stuffysays's avatar

Yes but you were lied to by your govt, tv and health officials. You thought about it and realised they were lying. Why? Everyone around you just sat back and swallowed the lies without giving it a second thought. Pity maybe but not compassion.

Dr Linda's avatar

Good point. I am just a regular person; I did not buy it.

rick's avatar

There seems to be a strange disconnect between the rising COVID cases without a corresponding rise in the COVID panic porn stories in the media.

Bandit's avatar

Give 'em a minute.

Me Mcc's avatar

Saw some last night...little rat man and she who sold her soul Walensky and some other person I've never seen discussing the need for more jabs and face diapers. It's coming....we're getting closer to elections.

Faith's avatar

Maybe they are too busy with Ukraine.

StellaMaris's avatar

Might be the coffee, tea, sleeping positions, climate change.....(fill in your own blank__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________)

Stan_R's avatar

NORMAL male - female sexual activity, hugging, touching, kissing, rapid breathing and wow - thingy

ChinaP88's avatar

The sheep continue their trek to the slaughter house. Never once do they think about looking up to see where they are headed. They are mindless drones who are too blind and clueless to see the path they take.

The Green Hornet's avatar

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

pandelis's avatar

aussies have really blown this covid crisis ... that guy morrison a moron worse than even trudeau ... i mean common people look whats going on around you ... terrible ...