Since you asked. As a militant atheist I was confronted with a hopeless certain death situation. In desperation I called out to God for help and was rescued from death immediately in a split second. This was 53 years ago. So no, I am not going for the $25.
I don't believe it works for everyone, but might work to some degree for some. I don't believe God will let our self-destruction get this far, as He will destroy non-believers before that. I do believe that such dangerous procedure could produce unintended consquences, not related to what it promises and mostly unknown. Nevertheless,
I’ve no doubt they want to be able to sever us from our Creator. Misery loves company.
But I don’t believe for one second they can destroy God’s ability to reach us or impact the divine response to Him that the Holy Spirit imparts to our souls. That mysterious, divine, and gracious transaction, accomplished by the life, death and resurrection of Christ is and forever will be beyond their grasp.
Now can they possibly affect parts of our brain related to feelings and thus make us FEEL more like we don’t have a connection to Him? Probably. Although I doubt such impairment would be permanent. At least I pray not.
But even should it prove to be a lasting diminishment for the poor participants of the trial, faith is not ultimately grounded in our feelings. As a long-time believer I can tell you my feelings about my faith are at various times and seasons of life are often not what I would wish them to be. I doubt. I don’t do as I know I should do and then feel terrible about that betrayal. God can appear to be silent and distant and my feeling reflect that. But I know those feeling are not an objective truth, but rather subjective; and my faith, God’s gracious gift to me, is anchored on the bedrock of Christ. So I continue on my stumbling and halting way.
Maybe they want to do this to the population at large without our consent. Is this why 5G is being pushed so heavily on us all? Perhaps. Take heart though. They may try, but they will fail. If it were dependent on our ability to resist, we’d be doomed already. But it all is in Gods hands, and He has promised to never leave or forsake us. We are bound to Him with something stronger than our feelings.
A small side note…the fact that they want to be able to do this shows how far down the path of darkness they are, and they should worry about the state of their own souls.
Psalm 2
The Reign of the LORD’S Anointed
Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers take counsel together,
against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying,
“Let us burst their bonds apart
and cast away their cords from us.”
He who sits in the heavens laughs;
the Lord holds them in derision.
Then he will speak to them in his wrath,
and terrify them in his fury, saying,
“As for me, I have set my King
on Zion, my holy hill.”
I will tell of the decree:
The LORD said to me, “You are my Son;
today I have begotten you.
Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage,
I’d love your to research Lakhovsky and the multi wave oscillator which wirelessly transmits electricity to cells deep in the body. TCMS is basically a Lakhovsky MWO for the head. It’s supposed to give cells necessary negative voltage . Any thoughts ?
As always, Igor, the results of such experiments will be multivariate and those results uncongenial to the funding source elided when not not compelled to be acknowledged.
Faith is primarily a function of belief unsupported by consistently reproducible proof. The correlation with imaginative creativity is unmistakable.
Selective interference with neuronal and synaptic activity specific to particularized ideation is the "Holy Grail" of neuroscience, for the obvious reason.
Faith is a choice, and what the research has demonstrated is that choice architecture can be manipulated electromagnetically. Belief in God is sidereal to these efforts, a flashy means of securing funding. It would have been less dramatic if the experiment had focused on other types of belief structures.
In other words, the results appear to be agnostic.
To answer your question, I believe that a true Christian, who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, will not lose his faith because it comes from God, not his mind. I cannot prove my belief. I simply trust God in this. If a person willingly submits, knowing the possible consequences, then I am not so sure. Ray Comfort speaks of false converts. These are people who think they are Christians when they really are not. They may have embraced a false gospel of prosperity and health in this life, or they may be focusing solely on their earthly needs. They have never truly repented of their sins, and they may be trusting in their own goodness to save them. These people will probably be affected, since their faith comes from their mind and not from God.
That said, this is by far the most despicable thing I think you can ever do to a person, and people like this should be tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
Frankly, Christianity was the whole reason I'm down this rabbit hole, and really wish I never did go down it, being an atheist (Or Nihilist if you want to argue like The Ethical Skeptic).
I don't think the experiment would reduce my personal belief in my creator. I also don't believe that such a reduction would be an unforgiveable sin. If all people approach life as Dr. Peterson suggests, "act as if there is a God", then I presume those people with reduced beliefs will continue in at least an ethical if not moral way in their lives. I'm sure that God himself will not be happy with the researchers for attempting to remove the Creator from out their lives.
if "Crimson Mist" kin make ya wanna hate/kill yer neighbor (also electromagnetically delivered) heck, this is just gentle persuasion I guess?... the inhumane horror of it all makes sense tho'--if they wanna cull the herd by 90% they need ta make sure the remainin' 10% foller orders (ordures!) via Big Brother & his contra-dict-shuns -- so havin' faith would negate the belief in false idol /Big Brother, etc. an' git folks ta give up hope (live in privation, no saviour or solace ta help or comfort). Bleak!
Temp checks RIGHT ON YER FOREHEAD hit yer pineal gland which some say is the God Organ (home of the mighty Wurlitzer?!). Fluoride calcifies it (i.e. duz the same). An' 50hz aimed at the head is near-close ta 60hz which supposedly is the level where pain is felt (in them 'spear-mints where folks RUN screamin' from the ELF emitters. So, I git it! Dissolve faith, hope, mebbe charity too! right in the pre-pain state--if they remember their dear lord or a baruch ata then they just up the frequency a notch an' deliver pain right on the spot fer those that don't drop their deity. Presto, change-o!
Some say the jabs target the pineal & hippocampus (where memory lies, where knowlege of truth sits) as duz the 5g so they'ze just attackin' our minds like ants go fer the pie on a picnic blanket--invade first, then DEVOUR. Pass the cherry clot-foutis.
This jus' seems like an extension of MKUltra, no?
We are all bodies electric--if only we could zap 'em back with a kick so hard they'd fly ta some black hole in space an' git sucked up an' "spaghetti-fied." IF only. Oh yeah, but black holes are a myth we were taught in "science class." Ha. Oh well... the truth is far more dystopian than most'd wanna believe anywayz!
This is one more electric feather in their transhuman VR caps... How duz one end this pure madness?
Not to distract from Igor's article, but here is an interesting development in Japan that you should know about. Japan has also joined the vax as a business model bandwagon, and a Japanese professor warns against it.
-- do you think that Dr. Holbrook’s experiments could sever YOUR ties to God? -- Let's take a step back and ask a more basic question whose answer is, to me, perfectly clear: Could magnetic stimulation cause brain damage, and can that damage manifest itself in changes to thought processes? Answer: Yes, of course it could.
-- Will those unfortunate experimental subjects whose religious ideation was successfully minimized be subject to God’s wrath, or will they be forgiven? -- Answer: The subjects will be forgiven because they were deceived, lied to, and so free will was not a factor.
-- (question to all) Are other electronic devices, such as Facebook’s virtual reality headsets, unknowingly affecting the posterior medial frontal cortex? -- Answer: It's possible but without more evidence it isn't possible to estimate the likelihood.
That vaccine-induced herd immunity is mostly myth can be proven quite simply. When I was in medical school, we were taught that all of the childhood vaccines lasted a lifetime. This thinking existed for over 70 years. It was not until relatively recently that it was discovered that most of these vaccines lost their effectiveness 2 to 10 years after being given. What this means is that at least half the population, that is the baby boomers, have had no vaccine-induced immunity against any of these diseases for which they had been vaccinated very early in life. In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades.
If we listen to present-day wisdom, we are all at risk of resurgent massive epidemics should the vaccination rate fall below 95%. Yet, we have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50% or less of the population having vaccine protection. That is, herd immunity has not existed in this country for many decades and no resurgent epidemics have occurred. Vaccine-induced herd immunity is a lie used to frighten doctors, public-health officials, other medical personnel, and the public into accepting vaccinations.
It's hard to know what to think about vaccines any more. I'm about to turn 75. In the 1950s ad 60's there weren't so many vaccines. Between the ages of about 5 and 10 I got measles, mumps and chicken pox. I never had those vaccines as they didn't exist then. Later, in the 1970s my daughter caught chicken pox (not sure if there was a vax for that yet), and I never got it again. I think she probably had a measles and mumps shot, though. In any case, I've never had any of those disease my whole life. I did get a polio vaccine (on a sugar cube) and also a smallpox vax. Ultimately, my vaccine record is extremely short, as is my daughter's (born in 1970). As a family we're all very healthy and we never got the C19 shots. My husband and I never got anything, and our daughter and son got covid very early on with quick recoveries.
Seems most of these diseases were defeated before the vaccines were available ... by reducing malnutrition and filthy living conditions...cleaner water etc....
Right. Herd immunity against what...? Who concocted this idiotic idea that humans have to be vaccinated and are in dire need of 'herd immunity' to be 'protected'? Protected against what? It's all business! Nature did not create faulty creatures that are flawed in their viability. They would not even exist if that were so, and if they needed self-injecting by their own species. "In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades." You said it well here: for decades humans walked around without dying off. It's all such blatant money-grabbing, nothing to do with health or whatever. Just a big scam, and nowadays a very cruel one at that. Here's Japan joining the vax bucks race:
"Yet, we have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50% or less of the population having vaccine protection."
This isn't exactly the extremely good point you are making in your comment (thank you!), but by extension perhaps, for almost the entire 3-4 million years of human existence (if taken from the Australopithecine ancestor), we have not only survived but we seem to have done remarkably well, we've spread to occupy every continent (including Antarctica, if only by creating a prosthetic environment by which we are able to survive there) without the artificial modulation of immunity through vaccination.
Absolutely. Nature would not have created a flawed creature! It would not even exist. Let alone exist and survive for millions of years! Self-injecting by the species with vaccines is a sick way of making a buck.
"Self-injecting by the species with vaccines is a sick way of making a buck. "
Man do I wish it was only about making a buck ...
There has been a far sinister motivation at work driving this diabolical 'vaccination' obsession over the last few centuries (diabolical is meant only in the figurative sense; I don't subscribe to such notions)
It's great to meet up with you again! It's a shame that I really must call it in for the day and night.
Since you asked. As a militant atheist I was confronted with a hopeless certain death situation. In desperation I called out to God for help and was rescued from death immediately in a split second. This was 53 years ago. So no, I am not going for the $25.
Wow. I had a strange experience. Not the same as yours, but it deeply shook me about six years ago.
I suggest to modify the device and apply it to all people who belive in Covid Vaccines and Zero Covid policies.
The next upgrade is then for all who believe Freedom of Speech is a problem and we need a ministery of truth.
I don't believe it works for everyone, but might work to some degree for some. I don't believe God will let our self-destruction get this far, as He will destroy non-believers before that. I do believe that such dangerous procedure could produce unintended consquences, not related to what it promises and mostly unknown. Nevertheless,
I’ve no doubt they want to be able to sever us from our Creator. Misery loves company.
But I don’t believe for one second they can destroy God’s ability to reach us or impact the divine response to Him that the Holy Spirit imparts to our souls. That mysterious, divine, and gracious transaction, accomplished by the life, death and resurrection of Christ is and forever will be beyond their grasp.
Now can they possibly affect parts of our brain related to feelings and thus make us FEEL more like we don’t have a connection to Him? Probably. Although I doubt such impairment would be permanent. At least I pray not.
But even should it prove to be a lasting diminishment for the poor participants of the trial, faith is not ultimately grounded in our feelings. As a long-time believer I can tell you my feelings about my faith are at various times and seasons of life are often not what I would wish them to be. I doubt. I don’t do as I know I should do and then feel terrible about that betrayal. God can appear to be silent and distant and my feeling reflect that. But I know those feeling are not an objective truth, but rather subjective; and my faith, God’s gracious gift to me, is anchored on the bedrock of Christ. So I continue on my stumbling and halting way.
Maybe they want to do this to the population at large without our consent. Is this why 5G is being pushed so heavily on us all? Perhaps. Take heart though. They may try, but they will fail. If it were dependent on our ability to resist, we’d be doomed already. But it all is in Gods hands, and He has promised to never leave or forsake us. We are bound to Him with something stronger than our feelings.
A small side note…the fact that they want to be able to do this shows how far down the path of darkness they are, and they should worry about the state of their own souls.
Psalm 2
The Reign of the LORD’S Anointed
Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers take counsel together,
against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying,
“Let us burst their bonds apart
and cast away their cords from us.”
He who sits in the heavens laughs;
the Lord holds them in derision.
Then he will speak to them in his wrath,
and terrify them in his fury, saying,
“As for me, I have set my King
on Zion, my holy hill.”
I will tell of the decree:
The LORD said to me, “You are my Son;
today I have begotten you.
Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage,
and the ends of the earth your possession.
You shall break them with a rod of iron
and dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.”
Now therefore, O kings, be wise;
be warned, O rulers of the earth.
Serve the LORD with fear,
and rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the Son,
lest he be angry, and you perish in the way,
for his wrath is quickly kindled.
Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
aluminum hats will protect you from weaponized EM tech
but only your head
what you need is an aluminum SUIT
I’d love your to research Lakhovsky and the multi wave oscillator which wirelessly transmits electricity to cells deep in the body. TCMS is basically a Lakhovsky MWO for the head. It’s supposed to give cells necessary negative voltage . Any thoughts ?
As always, Igor, the results of such experiments will be multivariate and those results uncongenial to the funding source elided when not not compelled to be acknowledged.
Faith is primarily a function of belief unsupported by consistently reproducible proof. The correlation with imaginative creativity is unmistakable.
Selective interference with neuronal and synaptic activity specific to particularized ideation is the "Holy Grail" of neuroscience, for the obvious reason.
Faith is a choice, and what the research has demonstrated is that choice architecture can be manipulated electromagnetically. Belief in God is sidereal to these efforts, a flashy means of securing funding. It would have been less dramatic if the experiment had focused on other types of belief structures.
In other words, the results appear to be agnostic.
To answer your question, I believe that a true Christian, who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, will not lose his faith because it comes from God, not his mind. I cannot prove my belief. I simply trust God in this. If a person willingly submits, knowing the possible consequences, then I am not so sure. Ray Comfort speaks of false converts. These are people who think they are Christians when they really are not. They may have embraced a false gospel of prosperity and health in this life, or they may be focusing solely on their earthly needs. They have never truly repented of their sins, and they may be trusting in their own goodness to save them. These people will probably be affected, since their faith comes from their mind and not from God.
That said, this is by far the most despicable thing I think you can ever do to a person, and people like this should be tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
Resist! We're not assimilated into the Borg. Yet.
Frankly, Christianity was the whole reason I'm down this rabbit hole, and really wish I never did go down it, being an atheist (Or Nihilist if you want to argue like The Ethical Skeptic).
What about Christianity and “electoshlock” experiments drew you to this story?
I was listening to the whacky branches of Christianity that said similar things, and I been trying to deprogram myself.
I don't think the experiment would reduce my personal belief in my creator. I also don't believe that such a reduction would be an unforgiveable sin. If all people approach life as Dr. Peterson suggests, "act as if there is a God", then I presume those people with reduced beliefs will continue in at least an ethical if not moral way in their lives. I'm sure that God himself will not be happy with the researchers for attempting to remove the Creator from out their lives.
if "Crimson Mist" kin make ya wanna hate/kill yer neighbor (also electromagnetically delivered) heck, this is just gentle persuasion I guess?... the inhumane horror of it all makes sense tho'--if they wanna cull the herd by 90% they need ta make sure the remainin' 10% foller orders (ordures!) via Big Brother & his contra-dict-shuns -- so havin' faith would negate the belief in false idol /Big Brother, etc. an' git folks ta give up hope (live in privation, no saviour or solace ta help or comfort). Bleak!
Temp checks RIGHT ON YER FOREHEAD hit yer pineal gland which some say is the God Organ (home of the mighty Wurlitzer?!). Fluoride calcifies it (i.e. duz the same). An' 50hz aimed at the head is near-close ta 60hz which supposedly is the level where pain is felt (in them 'spear-mints where folks RUN screamin' from the ELF emitters. So, I git it! Dissolve faith, hope, mebbe charity too! right in the pre-pain state--if they remember their dear lord or a baruch ata then they just up the frequency a notch an' deliver pain right on the spot fer those that don't drop their deity. Presto, change-o!
Some say the jabs target the pineal & hippocampus (where memory lies, where knowlege of truth sits) as duz the 5g so they'ze just attackin' our minds like ants go fer the pie on a picnic blanket--invade first, then DEVOUR. Pass the cherry clot-foutis.
This jus' seems like an extension of MKUltra, no?
We are all bodies electric--if only we could zap 'em back with a kick so hard they'd fly ta some black hole in space an' git sucked up an' "spaghetti-fied." IF only. Oh yeah, but black holes are a myth we were taught in "science class." Ha. Oh well... the truth is far more dystopian than most'd wanna believe anywayz!
This is one more electric feather in their transhuman VR caps... How duz one end this pure madness?
I could see that as a temporary effect!
Not to distract from Igor's article, but here is an interesting development in Japan that you should know about. Japan has also joined the vax as a business model bandwagon, and a Japanese professor warns against it.
https://zonderreden.substack.com/p/vax-as-a-buine-model
Thank your for reading.
These evil people will do anything to destroy the author and giver of life.
Pathetic
Igor, you ask your religious readers:
-- do you think that Dr. Holbrook’s experiments could sever YOUR ties to God? -- Let's take a step back and ask a more basic question whose answer is, to me, perfectly clear: Could magnetic stimulation cause brain damage, and can that damage manifest itself in changes to thought processes? Answer: Yes, of course it could.
-- Will those unfortunate experimental subjects whose religious ideation was successfully minimized be subject to God’s wrath, or will they be forgiven? -- Answer: The subjects will be forgiven because they were deceived, lied to, and so free will was not a factor.
-- (question to all) Are other electronic devices, such as Facebook’s virtual reality headsets, unknowingly affecting the posterior medial frontal cortex? -- Answer: It's possible but without more evidence it isn't possible to estimate the likelihood.
A very thoughtful reply with which I agree
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/vaxx-hoaxes-and-anti-vaxx-myths
That vaccine-induced herd immunity is mostly myth can be proven quite simply. When I was in medical school, we were taught that all of the childhood vaccines lasted a lifetime. This thinking existed for over 70 years. It was not until relatively recently that it was discovered that most of these vaccines lost their effectiveness 2 to 10 years after being given. What this means is that at least half the population, that is the baby boomers, have had no vaccine-induced immunity against any of these diseases for which they had been vaccinated very early in life. In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades.
If we listen to present-day wisdom, we are all at risk of resurgent massive epidemics should the vaccination rate fall below 95%. Yet, we have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50% or less of the population having vaccine protection. That is, herd immunity has not existed in this country for many decades and no resurgent epidemics have occurred. Vaccine-induced herd immunity is a lie used to frighten doctors, public-health officials, other medical personnel, and the public into accepting vaccinations.
It's hard to know what to think about vaccines any more. I'm about to turn 75. In the 1950s ad 60's there weren't so many vaccines. Between the ages of about 5 and 10 I got measles, mumps and chicken pox. I never had those vaccines as they didn't exist then. Later, in the 1970s my daughter caught chicken pox (not sure if there was a vax for that yet), and I never got it again. I think she probably had a measles and mumps shot, though. In any case, I've never had any of those disease my whole life. I did get a polio vaccine (on a sugar cube) and also a smallpox vax. Ultimately, my vaccine record is extremely short, as is my daughter's (born in 1970). As a family we're all very healthy and we never got the C19 shots. My husband and I never got anything, and our daughter and son got covid very early on with quick recoveries.
I am 2/3s through this https://www.audible.com/pd/Dissolving-Illusions-Audiobook/B095L28R1H
Seems most of these diseases were defeated before the vaccines were available ... by reducing malnutrition and filthy living conditions...cleaner water etc....
Right. Herd immunity against what...? Who concocted this idiotic idea that humans have to be vaccinated and are in dire need of 'herd immunity' to be 'protected'? Protected against what? It's all business! Nature did not create faulty creatures that are flawed in their viability. They would not even exist if that were so, and if they needed self-injecting by their own species. "In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades." You said it well here: for decades humans walked around without dying off. It's all such blatant money-grabbing, nothing to do with health or whatever. Just a big scam, and nowadays a very cruel one at that. Here's Japan joining the vax bucks race:
https://zonderreden.substack.com/p/vax-as-a-buine-model
"Yet, we have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50% or less of the population having vaccine protection."
This isn't exactly the extremely good point you are making in your comment (thank you!), but by extension perhaps, for almost the entire 3-4 million years of human existence (if taken from the Australopithecine ancestor), we have not only survived but we seem to have done remarkably well, we've spread to occupy every continent (including Antarctica, if only by creating a prosthetic environment by which we are able to survive there) without the artificial modulation of immunity through vaccination.
Absolutely. Nature would not have created a flawed creature! It would not even exist. Let alone exist and survive for millions of years! Self-injecting by the species with vaccines is a sick way of making a buck.
"Self-injecting by the species with vaccines is a sick way of making a buck. "
Man do I wish it was only about making a buck ...
There has been a far sinister motivation at work driving this diabolical 'vaccination' obsession over the last few centuries (diabolical is meant only in the figurative sense; I don't subscribe to such notions)
It's great to meet up with you again! It's a shame that I really must call it in for the day and night.
Leaving me with a cliff hanger... ;-) I think we might be on the same track. Love to read your thoughts - here, or on the piece i wrote?
https://zonderreden.substack.com/p/vax-as-a-buine-model
I will read that with relish tomorrow morning (local time). I hope you won't mind waiting for my response.