Can I just say this - tonight I am recovered from COVID-19, along with my husband and our two teenage boys. I had it the worst. Natural immunity for the win! I feel an exhilaration and gratitude for the immune system God gave us - even holding off this freakish bioweapon. We chose not to get that nasty vaccine, and now, immune, feel so powerful! There is nothing like the joy of health after feeling sick for awhile!
Our family of three (husband and I and grandchild) have recovered recently as well. The elders were offered monoclonal antibody treatment and did receive them. ( Hopefully that won't interfere with us acquiring some immunity). We were about five days into symptoms, and were not getting better. It almost feels like we wimped out, but it probably was the better choice.
As a vaccinated person now reluctant for booster(s), I have the paperwork ready for an infusion just in case. Seeing a lot of chatter on Nextdoor ABQ regarding many of the vaxxed getting ill gives me great pause. In NM Covid seems to be getting even worse than at the start of the pandemic. Cases doubled in a month from an average of 200 to 500/day (https://covid-19.direct/metro/200). Daily death have been steady < 3/day. There is a rising rate of hospitalizations (https://sites.google.com/view/new-mexico-covid19-tracking/home). I'll continue taking the supplements and hope to avoid getting ill. And masks are everywhere as if it mattered.
I've heard Dr. Peter Mccullough say you've got excellent natural immunity even if monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin etc were used to help. Not wimping out at all- the virus can be hard to shake and it is best to avoid hospital admission if at all possible. Glad you all are feeling better!
My husband and I easily beat covid in September. I am thankful for horse paste and Zpak, because I think they both help. My husband then submitted a request for ethical exemption from vaccination so he could keep his job. He objected, as a non believer in any religion, to the use of fetal cells in the test/production of the vaccines. He also mentioned his natural immunity. He got his exemption.
I'm very glad to hear you folks were able to beat it! That is great he got an exemption!
My husband applies for a religious exemption from his employer, and it took them months to reply, at which point the just gave him a six month reprieve, to be reconsidered in April or May.
Meanwhile, our family just got over all having it. As my husband and I are older, we opted for the monoclonals antibodies, as it was the only treatment we were being offered short of hospitalization. We considered and prepared for the paste, but did not get desperate enough, as we were eligible for the monoclonals. The grandchild (she lives with us) got over it in a few days, with only her usual vitamins plus added low dose quercetin and zinc.
Everyone in the family has fully recovered except myself, and I'm slowly getting better, thankfully.
Z-pacs are not made available to us, as we were banned from regular doctor's offices because of having the new plague, and our options were hospital, outpatient monoclonals, or no help. I would love to be able to get Z-pac, as I'm pretty sure what I'm languishing with now is a persistent bacterial sinus issue, but can't go to my doc until 100% better to get it! Talk about a "Catch-22" situation!
I'm praying for you! The only way I got Zpak was by going through the patient portal, telling my GP I was coughing up yellow crud (true), and asking for it and she was decent enough not to say no, she faxed it to nearby pharmacy.
My husband took a bit longer than I to feel normal, and he DID get the antibody infusion because it was available and we didn't see a reason at that time to refuse it.
But to refuse treatment to one with covid until he's better is pure medical lunacy. That's what's nuts about the time we're in.
That's a good idea, I should ask them again about a virtual visit. It's been long enough, maybe they are less busy now.
When I asked for a virtual visit before, they said they were only doing virtual visits for those seriously ill enough for a referral visit to be necessary for hospitalization. At least they made a connection for us for the monoclonals through an urgent care they have a good relationship with, so that's definitely something. I will call them and ask again about whether they've opened up virtual visits again for regular people. Thanks!
Yes, these do seem to be strange and non-sensical times indeed. Just wow.
I don't know if you're still fighting fever or are over it, but if you are simply on the mend and no longer feverish, at least where we live, you would no longer be considered contagious. (Two days after temperature normal here, or the ten days since diagnosis, and you're done with quarantine here in Maryland.)
If you are not contagious any longer, wouldn't a visit to a walk in clinic be worth considering to get your sinus infection treated with Zpak?
By the way, Zpak has antiviral properties so together with ivermectin it's good for shutting down a covid infection.
Offering prayers for your recovery. Even though I was fever free in a week, my strength took a few weeks to come back. Never lost sense of smell or taste but found it difficult to eat though I felt starved. Everyone has a different experience with this bug. And everyone deserves to get it treated.
I didn't run much of a fever. As I've gotten older, my immune response doesn't do fevers all that much (I'm in my 60's).
Here in Michigan, USA, docs and pharmacists have gotten threatening letters from our licensing entity (LARA) warning them against treating or dispensing for COVID off-label. Sad reality!
My doc's office requires NO symptoms before entering for people who have recently tested pos for COVID. My other option would be an Urgent Care, but I've already tried two of them. They tell me to go home unless I want to try the hospital. NO WAY I'm going near a hospital right now!
I may decide to juice up some garlic, hold my nose, and take a few slugs of it a couple times a day. That's knocked the flu out for me a couple of times when it turned into this sort of secondary bacterial infection. But wow, that is some tough stuff to not gag on! Hmmm I should buy some fresh parsley too, come to think of it. (for hubby's sake, if nothing else)
I'm taking a bunch of vites, mins, other nutritional booster pills.
I will be trying talking to my primary care provider's office come next Monday, if the garlic doesn't work, to see if they'll have pity on me and give me a video appt.
You're so kind to pray for us and help with ideas; it warms my heart, and I truly appreciate it!
Most of the jabbed I know have no idea that there could be any negative effects, and if I say something, they swiftly dismiss it. If this cancer stuff does happen and is reported and attributed to the vaxxes (what's the chance of that?), they would say Covid would be worse. They truly are prepared to die and kill for the vaccines, it's the Rapture.
Yes, it could be like "out, out, damned spot." Or a demonic-possession thing where they start calling an exorcist.
Daniel Defoe's Diary of a Plague Year is quite telling, people deliberately infecting others in a sort of delirium. The vaxxed might start wanting to get Covid to "use up" the vaccine, and go out and infect each other so that they can all be on the same team.
A mild case that confers natural immunity sounds good to me, but it's not possible to be sure it would be that mild. Agree, the unvaxxed would feel symptoms. Many Democrats think 50% of people with Covid get hospitalized (according to Bill Maher). So they live in perpetual terror as it is, even with no awareness of vaccine dangers.
Covid has also been made out to be a worse illness than it is. Most infected don’t even know they were infected (although this may be over represented among the young) and even someone like me, almost 60, had a very easy time of it, nothing to fear. I think the ones that suffered the most are more likely to post about it, and this may contribute to an unnecessary level of fear. All that said, if you are unhealthy you are right to be fearful, but not just of Covid but of every disease known to man.
For most people it’s mild, for a subset it’s not … depends how much virus you inhale, plus your own health status, vitamin D levels, etc., weight is the biggest factor with 78% of hospitalizations in the overweight and obese (CDC, Mar. 2021 report). Under 70, thin and healthy, very low chance of a bad outcome.
Just talked to a lady in mid to late 70's still working part-time. She had Covid after visiting kids and grands b4 vaccine out. Got covid which she said was pretty mild and had been a lot sicker with other ILI. then she had to get the jab for her job. Said she'd never been so sick. Lots like this never get reported in VAERS.
Recently I was catching up with a client who reported she had covid in spring 2021. I asked how she did. She said it was terrible. And then she said, “Well, it was like having strep throat.”
Everyone who has reported having had covid always says how terrible it was. I don’t doubt for some it really was bad. (I had swine flu in 2009 and it was the sickest I had ever been, and it took me a few months to feel fully recovered.) But I am starting to think that people are conditioned from all the fear mongering that contracting covid will take you to the brink of death. So even if you have a mild case, in your mind it was still terrible. Or maybe you need to tell yourself that to feel part of the club of the righteous?
OMGosh! This is a great way to lighten up the conversation. I literally laughed out loud at this. So happy to have found you, Igor. I knew/know nothing about substack, but found you through links from Robert Malone, MD on Telegram. Thanks for the laugh, Rich! Haha.
The die hard Branch Covidians will not listen to anything negative. My brother is one such person and if I send him any info that goes against the vaccine narrative he calls it silly nonsense. They are wedded to the vax. and will brook no dissent.
I've had this thought since quite early in the year: If I choose not to get vaccinated right now, but later decide it makes sense to do so, I can still do so. But if I get vaccinated right now, and later that turns out to have been a mistake, I can never un-do it.
I have always said I can take steps to reduce my chance of getting covid and treat early if I get it (my doc prescribes IVM etc.) but there's nothing I can do to avoid adverse effects from the "vaccines."
In regards to Vaccine waning vs Vaccine un-vaccinating. Most people avoid severe adverse events (like myocarditis etc). But it looks like everyone who takes the jab will be damaging their immune systems via the extermination of T-cells, CD8. What remains to be seen is that if you do get your boosters will your immune system recover? Will the T-cells repopulate? If this does happen then I think many of the vaccinated can reverse the damage done. Fingers crossed anyway.
I will feel very sorry for anyone this happens to. I well remember the panic and desperation of having a medical device placed inside my body that caused me many side effects. I was thankfully able to have it removed though that surgery also caused many problems and I'm still not 100% free of them almost 5 years later. I hope and pray that doctors are able to find a way to reverse the effects of these evil vaccines.
Right. Exactly. I did not experience this, but I feel for you and I can sympathize. This is the same as your case, except the "devices" are nanoparticles that embed RNA into cells and none of that is removable.
On a side note to your main point, the "shocking nastiness" you mention is chilling. It's like these people psychopaths toying with injured rats. I think this is related to an ugly, dangerous case of burnt toast syndrome. By forcing lockdowns and dehumanizing masks on people, governments the world over pushed people down and made them feel weak and worthless. (Calling some workers non-essential for over a year, for example, can't feel good.) Now that a certain segment of the population has been given some social stature back, they're starving for a feeling of worth, which has mutated into an ugly sense of superiority. After being squashed for so long, they are turning around and becoming the jackboots themselves just to stop feeling weak. This isn't a glitch, of course. It's a feature. The governments are getting their own people to do the work for them.
I am not sure if I fully share your explanation of how this worked, but I was also profoundly disgusted. Just look at tweets under #Borax, you will want to puke.
It is frightening that so many people, including public officials, seem delighted at the prospect that their mandates are making people put something in their bodies they do not want and feeling violated as a result. Regardless of how one feels about the vaccines' safety and efficacy, the ethics of this are clear. I would not laugh if my worst enemy were physically violated, especially if the results were irreversible.
My vote-- and maybe it shows my inability to envision a different kind of future-- is that the pharmaceutical industry is going to make a killing off them once again.
Just this morning I asked my hubby, how can we reach more people? In theory if we all just helped one person start asking the right questions, we’d be on our way back to sanity. But after a nuclear thread following an admittedly inflammatory meme I am feeling more hopeless than ever. None of my old friends seem to be reachable at this point. And in my desperation at the quickness we are seeing things unravel I am overposting on social media. So the people who are plausibly still reachable have likely unfollowed. And I have started deleting people who make sociopathic comments because I have to stay sane. Anyway, we are all just retreating into echo chambers and it worries me. That’s why i like your action plan posts. But I really needed the reminder that the real social network is not virtual. This gives me some renewed hope and I thank you for it. And then you hit me with the next psychosis and now I’m freaking out all over again! I just want things to play out as they inevitably will so we can move on! But kudos for identifying this trend and asking questions about the direction this fear will go next. I think you are entirely correct. If only we were still living in functioning democracies were people will held accountable. I’m not sure of anything anymore.
Thank you for fighting for you, me and everyone else. I am glad you found something useful in my action plans. I go to the twitter #GetVaccinated tag daily just to challenge the vaccinators.
It is not fair to characterize the vaccinated people as somehow less than. They took it because very smart people worked hard to make them afraid. Or, they took it for fear of losing a job or not being allowed to see their grandkids. We really need empathy and compassion for all during this challenging time. Well, maybe not for the masterminds who may truly be evil.
This is a great article. It raises points I was unaware of and puts forward a hypothesis that will be tested as time moves on. I don't know if I'd place any bets on it being accurate but if it is, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Thank you for the well thought out essay.
Does vaccine waning have the same effect as 'un-vaccinating'? Igor's earlier discussion on negative efficacy seems to suggest not but I am wondering if there are any studies out there on this topic. Do we have any data on repeated vaccine breakthrough cases? Basically vaccinated people being infected with covid multiple times. That would be a strong evidence of original antigenic sin. Do we know how permanent OAS/Hoskins effect is from our current understanding of vaccine and our immune system?
Ken, I do not believe that vaccine waning is the same as "un-vaccinating". I would actually hope that it is the case, but I do not believe it is the case.
The ill effects on immunity, that we are observing worldwide, are unlikely to be reversed by time. If the same lost immunity destroys our ability to oppose cancer cells, then time is not going to help either.
OAS seems to be permanent, but let's make sure first that we are really seeing it. It is indeed likely that it is taking place based on low titers of Roche N antibodies in vaccinated survivors of breakthrough Covid. So it may be that Covid infections just re-add temporary S antibodies that will wane again. For those people, Covid may be like a booster shot.
Um... if covid acts like a booster for the vaccinated then we probably won't see good data on repeated breakthrough until early next year. And if repeated breakthrough turns out to be real then wouldn't that means covid will become 'endemic of the vaccinated'? (a spin on the propaganda phrase of 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'.)
If this happens and the vaccinated get sick repeatedly, I am sure that either boosters, or repeated Covid will soon lead them to their graves, as the immunogenic response will get worse and worse over time.
I hope and PRAY it does not happen, even though I am an atheist.
Many of my loved ones are vaccinated and I am heartbroken to think about this stuff and I hope and pray that this is just a fantasy.
I am still holding out hopes for the general public to change their mind on repurpose drugs. Unfortunately, the psychosis you correctly identified is preventing the general public from analyzing things rationally.
Any heart damage is permanent. That is one of the muscles that does not regenerate like a bicep etc.
I have no idea how much of this,if any, will happen to humans but the first 3 were seen in animals with ACE2 receptors (ferrets, humanized mice, macaque monkeys). The rest have been shown to happen to humans to varying degrees.
ADE, mad cow (18 months), Alheimer's (24 months), right side heart failure due to micro clots (2-3 years), telomerase synthesis disruption, immunodeficiency.
All that for a disease with an IFR of 0.3? And Delta is half of that.
There are some neurological problems in some people who've had covid-19 but the sheer quantity from the vaccines will cause a lot more.
Dr Fleming in interviews said if you got sick naturally you will face hundreds of thousands to tens of millions. Pfizer/Moderna expose you to about 13 billion spike proteins and Astrazeneca / J&J about 50 billion.
Dr Zelenko likens it to swatting a fly on a glass table with a hammer.
I had Covid and it was relatively mild (meaning no long covid and no hospitalization and no shortness of breath). So I hope that the spike expression in me specifically was low.
You got COVID via a respiratory pathway, people who get the transvection get the spike injected right into the body. Big difference! Keeping your nutrition and supplements optimized to help your body deal with the effects you did receive and could be at risk for would be prudent.
I used Vitamin D3 in large doses for the first few days, and C, zinc, green tea and two baby aspirins per day. Then I went easier on D3 and stopped baby aspirins in a few more days.
From what I understand the mild sickness you had shows that your body fought it off quicker and hence less damage. You may have the best of both worlds. A mild disease and long lasting immunity with variant coverage.
If you feel you are having long haul then do check out the I-Recover long haul protocol at flccc.net
Singapore admitted the truth that it has become endemic and they we will have to live with it. At some point over the next 3-5 years we are all going to get it.
I agree that the risk of civil unrest...or worse...will increase as the failures become impossible to hide. People have lost loved ones to the virus who may have been saved by early treatment that was restricted or banned in so many countries. People have lost loved ones to the jabs, which are not safe for many people. People have been injured and disabled. People might well develop cancers, auto immune diseases, and neurological conditions that can be tied back to the jabs.
IMO, all the people...all of them...who perpetrated this horror on the people of the world must be permanently removed from the levers of power...no quiet retirements, no golden parachutes.
There must be consequences as there were for the Nuremberg defendants...but this time we get rid of them all.
I definitely share your sentiment. Even more important than individual bureaucrats and shady oligarchs, is identifying and removing all organizations that made it possible.
Closing a criminal organization like youtube, is not the same as executing human persons, and should be done very liberally on the basis of having committed crimes against humanity.
I use Borax sometimes to wash very dirty clothes. It is sold at Walmart and other stores. It is not super dangerous as long as it is not inhaled or eaten.
Buy Borax producer stocks anyone? Just kidding. This really is not a very funny matter though. I hope that we all get through this without feeling glee or schadenfreude towards our friends.
Bathing in it wouldn’t be particularly dangerous. Mixed with water it produces hydrogen peroxide, which can freshen up your clothes, but I can’t imagine it would have any value as a detox.
What’s next? Channeling that mass hysteria into a new equally abstract threat, Climate Change. The ground work has been laid for “climate lockdowns”, digital currency, more mass surveillance and a domestic war on terror. All of these things are coalescing into a leviathan the likes the world has never seen before. But this leviathan is a hidden one that creates reality in real time via a technocratic propagandized control grid. If course that is if we allow it to happen.
I believe that this was their hope if EVERYONE was vaccinated. Then they would say that our sickness was "due to climate change". But with a lot of happy unvaxxed, it will not really be very convincing.
Key point: "control group" - Pfizer, etc "blew up" their control groups during the what? - 4,5 month "trials". The term is actually a technical one; that is, towards the end of the trail period, they vaccinated the placebo groups (for ethical reasons, it was said, tho they were only finding, as intended, mild "cases" of Covid). Plenty of established researchers in mainstream scientific journals were aghast! Now there was no way to assess long term outcomes of vax vs non-vax groups.
Fast forward to the roll out - and e.g. BIden saying he would be satisfied at 98, 99% vax compliance. Same result: no control group.
But we will show them! - I - you - are the control group - insist on it!
Can I just say this - tonight I am recovered from COVID-19, along with my husband and our two teenage boys. I had it the worst. Natural immunity for the win! I feel an exhilaration and gratitude for the immune system God gave us - even holding off this freakish bioweapon. We chose not to get that nasty vaccine, and now, immune, feel so powerful! There is nothing like the joy of health after feeling sick for awhile!
Congratulations! You are now the Superman and the Superwoman! Leave fear behind!
Oh and keep exercise light for the next couple of weeks, walk rather than run.
And bump up your Vitamin D, K2 and magnesium, your bodies stores are probably close to depletion due to the infection.
I'm so glad you made it through, Susanna!
Our family of three (husband and I and grandchild) have recovered recently as well. The elders were offered monoclonal antibody treatment and did receive them. ( Hopefully that won't interfere with us acquiring some immunity). We were about five days into symptoms, and were not getting better. It almost feels like we wimped out, but it probably was the better choice.
We, also, are happy that none of us took the jab!
Congratulations! You are now like the bat-woman and bat-man and bat-grandchild!
I also hope that monoclonals will not interfere with natural immunity.
🤣🦇🦇🦇😂
As a vaccinated person now reluctant for booster(s), I have the paperwork ready for an infusion just in case. Seeing a lot of chatter on Nextdoor ABQ regarding many of the vaxxed getting ill gives me great pause. In NM Covid seems to be getting even worse than at the start of the pandemic. Cases doubled in a month from an average of 200 to 500/day (https://covid-19.direct/metro/200). Daily death have been steady < 3/day. There is a rising rate of hospitalizations (https://sites.google.com/view/new-mexico-covid19-tracking/home). I'll continue taking the supplements and hope to avoid getting ill. And masks are everywhere as if it mattered.
I've heard Dr. Peter Mccullough say you've got excellent natural immunity even if monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin etc were used to help. Not wimping out at all- the virus can be hard to shake and it is best to avoid hospital admission if at all possible. Glad you all are feeling better!
"joy of health" - you got it! Nietzsche called it the "intoxication of convalescence"
My husband and I easily beat covid in September. I am thankful for horse paste and Zpak, because I think they both help. My husband then submitted a request for ethical exemption from vaccination so he could keep his job. He objected, as a non believer in any religion, to the use of fetal cells in the test/production of the vaccines. He also mentioned his natural immunity. He got his exemption.
I'm very glad to hear you folks were able to beat it! That is great he got an exemption!
My husband applies for a religious exemption from his employer, and it took them months to reply, at which point the just gave him a six month reprieve, to be reconsidered in April or May.
Meanwhile, our family just got over all having it. As my husband and I are older, we opted for the monoclonals antibodies, as it was the only treatment we were being offered short of hospitalization. We considered and prepared for the paste, but did not get desperate enough, as we were eligible for the monoclonals. The grandchild (she lives with us) got over it in a few days, with only her usual vitamins plus added low dose quercetin and zinc.
Everyone in the family has fully recovered except myself, and I'm slowly getting better, thankfully.
Z-pacs are not made available to us, as we were banned from regular doctor's offices because of having the new plague, and our options were hospital, outpatient monoclonals, or no help. I would love to be able to get Z-pac, as I'm pretty sure what I'm languishing with now is a persistent bacterial sinus issue, but can't go to my doc until 100% better to get it! Talk about a "Catch-22" situation!
I'm praying for you! The only way I got Zpak was by going through the patient portal, telling my GP I was coughing up yellow crud (true), and asking for it and she was decent enough not to say no, she faxed it to nearby pharmacy.
My husband took a bit longer than I to feel normal, and he DID get the antibody infusion because it was available and we didn't see a reason at that time to refuse it.
But to refuse treatment to one with covid until he's better is pure medical lunacy. That's what's nuts about the time we're in.
Thank you, Zade!
That's a good idea, I should ask them again about a virtual visit. It's been long enough, maybe they are less busy now.
When I asked for a virtual visit before, they said they were only doing virtual visits for those seriously ill enough for a referral visit to be necessary for hospitalization. At least they made a connection for us for the monoclonals through an urgent care they have a good relationship with, so that's definitely something. I will call them and ask again about whether they've opened up virtual visits again for regular people. Thanks!
Yes, these do seem to be strange and non-sensical times indeed. Just wow.
I don't know if you're still fighting fever or are over it, but if you are simply on the mend and no longer feverish, at least where we live, you would no longer be considered contagious. (Two days after temperature normal here, or the ten days since diagnosis, and you're done with quarantine here in Maryland.)
If you are not contagious any longer, wouldn't a visit to a walk in clinic be worth considering to get your sinus infection treated with Zpak?
By the way, Zpak has antiviral properties so together with ivermectin it's good for shutting down a covid infection.
Offering prayers for your recovery. Even though I was fever free in a week, my strength took a few weeks to come back. Never lost sense of smell or taste but found it difficult to eat though I felt starved. Everyone has a different experience with this bug. And everyone deserves to get it treated.
I didn't run much of a fever. As I've gotten older, my immune response doesn't do fevers all that much (I'm in my 60's).
Here in Michigan, USA, docs and pharmacists have gotten threatening letters from our licensing entity (LARA) warning them against treating or dispensing for COVID off-label. Sad reality!
My doc's office requires NO symptoms before entering for people who have recently tested pos for COVID. My other option would be an Urgent Care, but I've already tried two of them. They tell me to go home unless I want to try the hospital. NO WAY I'm going near a hospital right now!
I may decide to juice up some garlic, hold my nose, and take a few slugs of it a couple times a day. That's knocked the flu out for me a couple of times when it turned into this sort of secondary bacterial infection. But wow, that is some tough stuff to not gag on! Hmmm I should buy some fresh parsley too, come to think of it. (for hubby's sake, if nothing else)
I'm taking a bunch of vites, mins, other nutritional booster pills.
I will be trying talking to my primary care provider's office come next Monday, if the garlic doesn't work, to see if they'll have pity on me and give me a video appt.
You're so kind to pray for us and help with ideas; it warms my heart, and I truly appreciate it!
well done, and welcome to the pureblood plus club. Now comes the post viral malaise - take it nice and easy for a few weeks until it passes.
I'm immune too and it's very liberating. Good for you.
Most of the jabbed I know have no idea that there could be any negative effects, and if I say something, they swiftly dismiss it. If this cancer stuff does happen and is reported and attributed to the vaxxes (what's the chance of that?), they would say Covid would be worse. They truly are prepared to die and kill for the vaccines, it's the Rapture.
I understand, but please also understand how rapidly it could change if their friends start getting the mortal fear.
Yes, it could be like "out, out, damned spot." Or a demonic-possession thing where they start calling an exorcist.
Daniel Defoe's Diary of a Plague Year is quite telling, people deliberately infecting others in a sort of delirium. The vaxxed might start wanting to get Covid to "use up" the vaccine, and go out and infect each other so that they can all be on the same team.
Thanks. It is not entirely insane -- but questionable -- if one should get Covid "just to get over it".
Usually by the time people get sick, they tend to stay home instead of spreading covid, just because they are feeling ill.
But yes, life is fun and it is interesting to think about possibilities.
A mild case that confers natural immunity sounds good to me, but it's not possible to be sure it would be that mild. Agree, the unvaxxed would feel symptoms. Many Democrats think 50% of people with Covid get hospitalized (according to Bill Maher). So they live in perpetual terror as it is, even with no awareness of vaccine dangers.
Covid has also been made out to be a worse illness than it is. Most infected don’t even know they were infected (although this may be over represented among the young) and even someone like me, almost 60, had a very easy time of it, nothing to fear. I think the ones that suffered the most are more likely to post about it, and this may contribute to an unnecessary level of fear. All that said, if you are unhealthy you are right to be fearful, but not just of Covid but of every disease known to man.
For most people it’s mild, for a subset it’s not … depends how much virus you inhale, plus your own health status, vitamin D levels, etc., weight is the biggest factor with 78% of hospitalizations in the overweight and obese (CDC, Mar. 2021 report). Under 70, thin and healthy, very low chance of a bad outcome.
Just talked to a lady in mid to late 70's still working part-time. She had Covid after visiting kids and grands b4 vaccine out. Got covid which she said was pretty mild and had been a lot sicker with other ILI. then she had to get the jab for her job. Said she'd never been so sick. Lots like this never get reported in VAERS.
Recently I was catching up with a client who reported she had covid in spring 2021. I asked how she did. She said it was terrible. And then she said, “Well, it was like having strep throat.”
Everyone who has reported having had covid always says how terrible it was. I don’t doubt for some it really was bad. (I had swine flu in 2009 and it was the sickest I had ever been, and it took me a few months to feel fully recovered.) But I am starting to think that people are conditioned from all the fear mongering that contracting covid will take you to the brink of death. So even if you have a mild case, in your mind it was still terrible. Or maybe you need to tell yourself that to feel part of the club of the righteous?
Here's the Gallup poll. Only 18% of the population correctly understood the risk of hospitalization... https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx
It is, it is.
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OMGosh! This is a great way to lighten up the conversation. I literally laughed out loud at this. So happy to have found you, Igor. I knew/know nothing about substack, but found you through links from Robert Malone, MD on Telegram. Thanks for the laugh, Rich! Haha.
The die hard Branch Covidians will not listen to anything negative. My brother is one such person and if I send him any info that goes against the vaccine narrative he calls it silly nonsense. They are wedded to the vax. and will brook no dissent.
I've had this thought since quite early in the year: If I choose not to get vaccinated right now, but later decide it makes sense to do so, I can still do so. But if I get vaccinated right now, and later that turns out to have been a mistake, I can never un-do it.
Yep, Borax definitely will not help. Waiting out proves to be a genius strategy, right now.
I have always said I can take steps to reduce my chance of getting covid and treat early if I get it (my doc prescribes IVM etc.) but there's nothing I can do to avoid adverse effects from the "vaccines."
In regards to Vaccine waning vs Vaccine un-vaccinating. Most people avoid severe adverse events (like myocarditis etc). But it looks like everyone who takes the jab will be damaging their immune systems via the extermination of T-cells, CD8. What remains to be seen is that if you do get your boosters will your immune system recover? Will the T-cells repopulate? If this does happen then I think many of the vaccinated can reverse the damage done. Fingers crossed anyway.
One day we might be looking for the vaccine removal drug.
Are you saying the boosters could heal the damaged of the 1st and 2nd shots?
I meant to say "if you don't get your boosters". If you do, well, you're focked.
Ah right, that makes sense.
I will feel very sorry for anyone this happens to. I well remember the panic and desperation of having a medical device placed inside my body that caused me many side effects. I was thankfully able to have it removed though that surgery also caused many problems and I'm still not 100% free of them almost 5 years later. I hope and pray that doctors are able to find a way to reverse the effects of these evil vaccines.
Right. Exactly. I did not experience this, but I feel for you and I can sympathize. This is the same as your case, except the "devices" are nanoparticles that embed RNA into cells and none of that is removable.
Excellent article!
On a side note to your main point, the "shocking nastiness" you mention is chilling. It's like these people psychopaths toying with injured rats. I think this is related to an ugly, dangerous case of burnt toast syndrome. By forcing lockdowns and dehumanizing masks on people, governments the world over pushed people down and made them feel weak and worthless. (Calling some workers non-essential for over a year, for example, can't feel good.) Now that a certain segment of the population has been given some social stature back, they're starving for a feeling of worth, which has mutated into an ugly sense of superiority. After being squashed for so long, they are turning around and becoming the jackboots themselves just to stop feeling weak. This isn't a glitch, of course. It's a feature. The governments are getting their own people to do the work for them.
I am not sure if I fully share your explanation of how this worked, but I was also profoundly disgusted. Just look at tweets under #Borax, you will want to puke.
I will not booster!
I had the two jabs no noticeable effects, six months ago.
Call me unvaxxed, I wise I were pure!
chaga tea is a cleanser... I also do the zelenko protocol every day with quercetin ilo hcq.
I definitely am supportive of you as a human being!
It is frightening that so many people, including public officials, seem delighted at the prospect that their mandates are making people put something in their bodies they do not want and feeling violated as a result. Regardless of how one feels about the vaccines' safety and efficacy, the ethics of this are clear. I would not laugh if my worst enemy were physically violated, especially if the results were irreversible.
My vote-- and maybe it shows my inability to envision a different kind of future-- is that the pharmaceutical industry is going to make a killing off them once again.
My opinion is that
1) Pfizer should be bankrupted and confiscated to pay for vaccinateds' injuries
2) It is okay to make money on treatments for the vaccinated, in an ETHICAL way
Just this morning I asked my hubby, how can we reach more people? In theory if we all just helped one person start asking the right questions, we’d be on our way back to sanity. But after a nuclear thread following an admittedly inflammatory meme I am feeling more hopeless than ever. None of my old friends seem to be reachable at this point. And in my desperation at the quickness we are seeing things unravel I am overposting on social media. So the people who are plausibly still reachable have likely unfollowed. And I have started deleting people who make sociopathic comments because I have to stay sane. Anyway, we are all just retreating into echo chambers and it worries me. That’s why i like your action plan posts. But I really needed the reminder that the real social network is not virtual. This gives me some renewed hope and I thank you for it. And then you hit me with the next psychosis and now I’m freaking out all over again! I just want things to play out as they inevitably will so we can move on! But kudos for identifying this trend and asking questions about the direction this fear will go next. I think you are entirely correct. If only we were still living in functioning democracies were people will held accountable. I’m not sure of anything anymore.
Thank you for fighting for you, me and everyone else. I am glad you found something useful in my action plans. I go to the twitter #GetVaccinated tag daily just to challenge the vaccinators.
It is not fair to characterize the vaccinated people as somehow less than. They took it because very smart people worked hard to make them afraid. Or, they took it for fear of losing a job or not being allowed to see their grandkids. We really need empathy and compassion for all during this challenging time. Well, maybe not for the masterminds who may truly be evil.
They deserve our compassion. Some are old and scared. I get it.
But only if it is based on reciprocity and, behind it, the corresponding motivation.
This is a great article. It raises points I was unaware of and puts forward a hypothesis that will be tested as time moves on. I don't know if I'd place any bets on it being accurate but if it is, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Thank you for the well thought out essay.
Thanks!We all are only guessing. But I tried to find some evidence and include it.
Does vaccine waning have the same effect as 'un-vaccinating'? Igor's earlier discussion on negative efficacy seems to suggest not but I am wondering if there are any studies out there on this topic. Do we have any data on repeated vaccine breakthrough cases? Basically vaccinated people being infected with covid multiple times. That would be a strong evidence of original antigenic sin. Do we know how permanent OAS/Hoskins effect is from our current understanding of vaccine and our immune system?
Ken, I do not believe that vaccine waning is the same as "un-vaccinating". I would actually hope that it is the case, but I do not believe it is the case.
The ill effects on immunity, that we are observing worldwide, are unlikely to be reversed by time. If the same lost immunity destroys our ability to oppose cancer cells, then time is not going to help either.
OAS seems to be permanent, but let's make sure first that we are really seeing it. It is indeed likely that it is taking place based on low titers of Roche N antibodies in vaccinated survivors of breakthrough Covid. So it may be that Covid infections just re-add temporary S antibodies that will wane again. For those people, Covid may be like a booster shot.
Um... if covid acts like a booster for the vaccinated then we probably won't see good data on repeated breakthrough until early next year. And if repeated breakthrough turns out to be real then wouldn't that means covid will become 'endemic of the vaccinated'? (a spin on the propaganda phrase of 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'.)
If this happens and the vaccinated get sick repeatedly, I am sure that either boosters, or repeated Covid will soon lead them to their graves, as the immunogenic response will get worse and worse over time.
I hope and PRAY it does not happen, even though I am an atheist.
Many of my loved ones are vaccinated and I am heartbroken to think about this stuff and I hope and pray that this is just a fantasy.
I am still holding out hopes for the general public to change their mind on repurpose drugs. Unfortunately, the psychosis you correctly identified is preventing the general public from analyzing things rationally.
It will be even worse when they stampede to be un-vaccinated.
Any heart damage is permanent. That is one of the muscles that does not regenerate like a bicep etc.
I have no idea how much of this,if any, will happen to humans but the first 3 were seen in animals with ACE2 receptors (ferrets, humanized mice, macaque monkeys). The rest have been shown to happen to humans to varying degrees.
ADE, mad cow (18 months), Alheimer's (24 months), right side heart failure due to micro clots (2-3 years), telomerase synthesis disruption, immunodeficiency.
All that for a disease with an IFR of 0.3? And Delta is half of that.
Would mad cow happen ALSO to Covid survivors? After all, Covid also generates spikes, right?
There are some neurological problems in some people who've had covid-19 but the sheer quantity from the vaccines will cause a lot more.
Dr Fleming in interviews said if you got sick naturally you will face hundreds of thousands to tens of millions. Pfizer/Moderna expose you to about 13 billion spike proteins and Astrazeneca / J&J about 50 billion.
Dr Zelenko likens it to swatting a fly on a glass table with a hammer.
Thanks. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I had Covid and it was relatively mild (meaning no long covid and no hospitalization and no shortness of breath). So I hope that the spike expression in me specifically was low.
You got COVID via a respiratory pathway, people who get the transvection get the spike injected right into the body. Big difference! Keeping your nutrition and supplements optimized to help your body deal with the effects you did receive and could be at risk for would be prudent.
I used Vitamin D3 in large doses for the first few days, and C, zinc, green tea and two baby aspirins per day. Then I went easier on D3 and stopped baby aspirins in a few more days.
Empirically, it worked okay.
My covid started Nov 18, 2020, almost a year ago
From what I understand the mild sickness you had shows that your body fought it off quicker and hence less damage. You may have the best of both worlds. A mild disease and long lasting immunity with variant coverage.
If you feel you are having long haul then do check out the I-Recover long haul protocol at flccc.net
Singapore admitted the truth that it has become endemic and they we will have to live with it. At some point over the next 3-5 years we are all going to get it.
Steve Kirsch has written some on the possibility of COVID vaccines contributing to prion diseases…super concerning!
I agree that the risk of civil unrest...or worse...will increase as the failures become impossible to hide. People have lost loved ones to the virus who may have been saved by early treatment that was restricted or banned in so many countries. People have lost loved ones to the jabs, which are not safe for many people. People have been injured and disabled. People might well develop cancers, auto immune diseases, and neurological conditions that can be tied back to the jabs.
IMO, all the people...all of them...who perpetrated this horror on the people of the world must be permanently removed from the levers of power...no quiet retirements, no golden parachutes.
There must be consequences as there were for the Nuremberg defendants...but this time we get rid of them all.
I definitely share your sentiment. Even more important than individual bureaucrats and shady oligarchs, is identifying and removing all organizations that made it possible.
Closing a criminal organization like youtube, is not the same as executing human persons, and should be done very liberally on the basis of having committed crimes against humanity.
Wow. I like it. Maybe we can go back to the original thirteen colonies and start over... Galvanize! Good for you.
Igor, one of your best yet, very illuminating and I truly hope not too prescient. We are in uncharted waters now.
Thank you for your encouragement. When I write, I feel like I write to my friends like you.
I also hope and pray that some of my "likely" predictions will turn out to be false, specifically about cancers.
I don't think borax is a very safe thing to use lightly. You certainly wouldn't want to inhale the dust!
The only way they will inject their toxic vax into me is by sheer physical force.
I use Borax sometimes to wash very dirty clothes. It is sold at Walmart and other stores. It is not super dangerous as long as it is not inhaled or eaten.
Buy Borax producer stocks anyone? Just kidding. This really is not a very funny matter though. I hope that we all get through this without feeling glee or schadenfreude towards our friends.
in the 50's 60's there was a western sponsored bu 20 muleteam borax detergent, one or two seasons ronald reagan was host.....
I remember that!
I use borax as a laundry booster, also. Also, I've used it boiled in water with sugar to use against carpenter ants. Always careful with the dust!
I hope people are being careful, of they are bathing in it!
Bathing in it wouldn’t be particularly dangerous. Mixed with water it produces hydrogen peroxide, which can freshen up your clothes, but I can’t imagine it would have any value as a detox.
What’s next? Channeling that mass hysteria into a new equally abstract threat, Climate Change. The ground work has been laid for “climate lockdowns”, digital currency, more mass surveillance and a domestic war on terror. All of these things are coalescing into a leviathan the likes the world has never seen before. But this leviathan is a hidden one that creates reality in real time via a technocratic propagandized control grid. If course that is if we allow it to happen.
I believe that this was their hope if EVERYONE was vaccinated. Then they would say that our sickness was "due to climate change". But with a lot of happy unvaxxed, it will not really be very convincing.
Check this out https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/climate/public-health-climate-change.html
Key point: "control group" - Pfizer, etc "blew up" their control groups during the what? - 4,5 month "trials". The term is actually a technical one; that is, towards the end of the trail period, they vaccinated the placebo groups (for ethical reasons, it was said, tho they were only finding, as intended, mild "cases" of Covid). Plenty of established researchers in mainstream scientific journals were aghast! Now there was no way to assess long term outcomes of vax vs non-vax groups.
Fast forward to the roll out - and e.g. BIden saying he would be satisfied at 98, 99% vax compliance. Same result: no control group.
But we will show them! - I - you - are the control group - insist on it!