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Forgiveness and prison time can go together. That would be appropriate. Forgiveness does not mean there will be no consequences for criminals.

There's also a legal concept called "Criminal negligence." That happens when a person is so profoundly ignorant that it causes harm in others due to their inactions. I.e. being very stupid has a cost. Their lack of doing their own research is criminal. Thus criminal negligence.

Most of the studies are free. I have some of them. Cost of acquiring the study is not the problem here.

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I wish I could put 10 likes on this reply

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Forgiveness and repentance go hand in hand. Atonement and retribution are further considerations. Does she offer to atone? No. she claims we need to "forgive one another." Unadulterated bullschitt. There was only one vicious, cunning, fear precipitating, economy and societal shattering narrative coupled to the orchestrated drive to jab everyone.

She is trying to manufacture an Orwellian memory hole.

The Bown Uni professor exhibits virtue signalling at its repulsive finest in a puff piece delivered by a predictable media platform.

It gets very hard to conceal a tsunami of death and sickness after a deliberate, orchestrated vicious and continuing assault on humanity.

They're starting to run for the proverbial hills.

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As they run for the hills, we'll get out the flame-throwers.

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and the knitting needles and yarn.

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Ooh - last minute Halloween costume!

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Actually, that seems a very good point. They may come for the guns but I don't see any edicts against flame throwers.

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I don't have a gun, it identifies as a cordless .44 caliber hole punch.

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Hammer are the new self protection if you do not have alternatives.

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They'll get none of mine.

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And the axes and pitchforks-- oh, and don't forget the hammers-- soon we'll be ordered to turn in every hammer we own as we now know that hammers are deadly weapons ;-)

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Agreed she is not actually asking for true amnesty. It is more of a counterfeit; superficially having the appearance of amnesty but lacking the essential spirit and twisting several key elements of amnesty.

I saw someone post on twitter that the hamburgler wants hamburger theft amnesty.

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They won't be able to run far enough.

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They are a-skeered!

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Exactly! I feel no remorse coming from Emily Oster, just a self-serving, mewling plea to save their own cowardly hides. No apologies, no standing up and owning their complicity, even if it was misguided. The way I see it, I'm an ordinary citizen, not a "journalist" with access to global information at their fingertips. They KNEW, as well as I did. No forgiveness. Those at the top should be put to death. The media who knowingly aided and abetted, the same.

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"self-serving, mewling plea to save their own cowardly hides."

Priceless & perfect.

With you on all you wrote including the all important Nuremberg 2.0

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Thank you. For some reason, my like button doesn't seem to work, but I liked your comment. Nuremberg, for sure! These people opened up a can of worms we'll be fighting for years to come and they need to face consequences or they will continue to wield illegitimate power over us.

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Thank you. For some reason, my like button doesn't seem to work, but I liked your comment. Nuremberg, for sure! These people opened up a can of worms we'll be fighting for years to come and they need to face consequences or they will continue to wield illegitimate power over us.

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It's up to 279 likes now if that's any consolation! :-)

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NO! Prison time wasn't the ultimate sentence in the Nuremberg trials nor should it be in the next. Crimes against humanity require real justice.

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NO! Forgiveness either. "I killed your family, your unborn children, your coworkers; I altered your genes and shortened your lifespan; and my offshore account has X million dollars. Sorry."

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The only issue I can foresee with what you have said is that seemingly SO many people are involved in this evil that the very people who could bring others to justice need to be brought there, themselves.

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If so many receive the "ultimate sentences", then Billy Bob Gates will be thrilled! Less carbon breathers!

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Wouldn't you think he should be counted among st those receiving sentences; whatever that might be?

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ABSOLUTELY! But he shouldn't mind! It's all for the "greater good"! :)

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Not so sure. He's a selfish XXXX. The rules about carbon don't apply to him and his few friends.

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Abso-freakin- lutely!!

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Yes, this time the rot was spread out so wide that it will be hard to find the honest judges and prosecutors.

Life sentence for every life taken to run sequentially seems fair, capital punishment is not that enlightened but the penalties must reach those above the public figures that we have seen so far.

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"capital punishment is not that enlightened "

I respect and appreciate your personal views on that matter. Mine would tell me that while capital punishment should never be used as a means of vengeance; if, after deliberation that conclusion is arrived upon, if it fits the crime than so be it.

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Given the number of deaths that have been the result of this scam I would disagree on the capital punishment.

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You're right, which is why We The People must exact vengeance ourselves. This is our sacred duty.

Never Forgive!

Never Forget!

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The question here would be if and when enough people come to the realization that you just so aptly stated.

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You and I and thousands of others must help 60 million people come to these realizations.

If we succeed, Attila, armed with our Lists, will lead our Huns, and they will sweep OUR country clean from Sea To Shining Sea!

Never Forget! Never Forgive!

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True. Problem being is that those who elected to receive 'vaccines' are going to be difficult to try and persuade to do something when they learn they might very well be endangered. They're likely to be angry at those who did not.

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I agree.

Convictions and prison time for those who perpetrated these crimes are the appropriate response.

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Or perhaps...more stringent??

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You might want to re-read what I wrote. Or maybe you didn't mean to reply to me.

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Yes- an uninformed populace is an active enemy of democracy.

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And the Atlantic and all of its media peers actively played coverup throughout.

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The majority shareholder of The Atlantic is Steve Jobs's widow. Laurene Powell Jobs.

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One big nest of self-satisfied foulness.

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They sucked.

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The Atlantic. The NYT. Washington Post. Boston Globe. CNN. NBC. ABC. And thousands more. And of course, Twitter and Facebook and Google. That's just the media. Then we have the Deep State, starting with CDC, NIH, and FDA. Then we have the FBI. And military leaders. And federal, state and local governments. And school boards. And CEO's of large, medium and some small companies. And doctors and hospitals. And on and on and on. Millions.

Depending on the severity of the crimes: Noose. Firing Squad. Guillotine. Rack. Stake.

Never Forget! Never Forgive!

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Another thing... for many years, I worked on the technical side of tv news. When I left, I stopped watching all local news.

Then I got Roku and stopped watching cable news.

Turn. It. Off.

It's the best thing you can do. You can read whatever you want online, and not have to sit through their propaganda programming.

Key word is programming.

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Atlantic Media is owned by billionaire Laurene Powell-Jobs, who is also a director at the globalist Council on Foreign Relations. See chart showing CFR media control: https://swprs.org/the-american-empire-and-its-media/

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Is that you Tom J?

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What happens next must serve as deterrence for eons.

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Exactly. The one redeeming feature partially absolving our rotten "leaders" would be if our own government belatedly exposed how rotten our own government is. That's what's supposed to happen with our system of "checks and balances." Congress is supposed to provide oversight and accountability to the agencies it created and funds. Or the Courts. Or the executive branch. Or the Fourth Estate. But they are all captured by now. So that's the hard lesson the public must absorb. But how are they going to get this lesson? The sheriff, prosecutors, judge and the local investigative journalists are all among the groups that have to be exposed and convicted.

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Nothing anybody (including me) has ever said puts it as succinctly and correctly as what you just said.

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ITS A WAR AGAINST MANKIND... 'elites' won't stop until population reduction goals are met

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The deed is done. We’re just waiting for the results now.

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I noticed there was an air of desperation about the mandates and threats. Like there was some deadline to meet. So glad they did NOT meet the quotas here in the US. At least not in Real America.

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I was disappointed at how pathetic people were here in Spain.

"We want 70% vaccinated" the implication being that we would go back to normal (though I correctly noticed they never actually said that). Then it changed to "we want 90% vaccinated". They got close but didn't mange that.

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Yes- remember President Brandon: “I’m running out of patience!( with people not getting vaxxed). His handlers knew the shots would be soon proven both ineffective and dangerous.

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I don't believe the deed is done yet at all. mRNA will be the technology used for all future vaccinations. I just read that Pfizer has 25,000 guinea pigs walking among us that have already been injected with an mRNA seasonal flu vaccine.

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We've got to hold these hearings although the country will be stunned and mortified by the truths they learn. But this has to happen if we are going to ever drain the swamp. And we HAVE to drain the swamp if our kids and grandkids are going to have any chance at a decent quality of life in coming decades. All of these woke, obtuse, corrupt leaders and institutions have to be exposed and then fully purged. Otherwise, these people are going to lead everyone over a cliff. They've already about got us there, but they aren't done.

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Many will refuse to believe, I constantly post facts on facebook but it's always labelled conspiracy or gets countered with some incredibly negligible nitpick, or "fact check".

"“If there is hope, it must lie in the proles" not in the brainwashed middle classes.

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Forgiveness is surely predicated on repentance, while atonement and retribution are additional further matters to consider. A fashionable faux-apology, always without an offer of restitution, is pecksniffian virtue signalling at its finest. It is an art form these days.

They (WEF, BMGF, Wellcome, BigPharma, WHO, CEPI) are all STILL AT IT.

CEPI have funded Clover BioPharmaceuticals to develop a novel trimeric AL2O3 adjuvant mRNA "vaccine," with 15 billion shots scheduled for delivery in 2026.

There is simply NO intention to stop this any time soon. Ask the WHO currently trying to secretly impose international health regulations for their definition of "pandemic" ... nothing more than scantily clad tyranny with mandated jabs, the refusal of which will exclude you from accessing medical treatment, or going to the supermarket. Currently, in New Zealand such measures sit on a State ladder of coercion and are deemed "ethical."

Globally, we all remain in the depths of societal insanity from which there is as yet, no recovery in sight.

It and 'they' will need to be stopped. All of them. And that's a very tall order.

The professor of economics demonstrated zero ability to execute in time learning and research, as indeed her Atlantic puff piece testifies. This appears as lamentable as it is manifestly culpable for someone in her tenured position at Brown.

No, what she shows is that virtue signalling is alive and well in smug Leftist academe and its media mouthpieces.

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Everybody 'likes' this comment. Wow ! I guess this polite discussion is how people feel about this ? Where's the FURY... the RAGE ! These people tried to KILL us. And now lets talk about amnesty. It's Kumbaya time folks ? Not for me. The unvaccinated were this close to getting vaxxed or being put in internment camps. In Australia, citizens were ganged up on by groups of police and FORCE VAXXED !!!! Never forget this. We were very close to a totalitarian take over.

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I do not think that anyone reading Igor's Substack is OK with no accountability. My guess is that the level of anger depends on the level of abuse one received as a result of this scamdemic and I, for one, am not going to move on. The crimes were unparalleled and I am all for the punishment to fit the crime. In Oz, I have seen (not heard) things that defy belief but I have not heard or seen any forced jabbing. I think that the place was close enough to accepting it but there was some spark of realization that if they go there, then all options were on the table for the ones on the receiving end. Hence they did not go there as far as I know. The danger of a totalitarian take over is not gone and people need to wake before they end up as being lifelong serfs to a bunch of lunatics.

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In NZ, as a mandated clinician, I walked. The need for redress is strong.

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Very sorry to hear that you had to walk away. I was very fortunate that had leave available and I too was ready to walk when they pushed for the jab here in West Oz. They kept the mandate in place for about 6 months and then they gave up. I do not work in Health and as far as I can tell, the mandate for Health workers is still in place - yes, the locals are that stupid to keep expecting the Health workers to keep taking more jabs. My hope is that what happened in Alberta, Canada will be replicated around the world. However, for that to happen, I think that the Red Dalek aka Jacinta needs to go first because in my opinion that creature is pure evil and will not back off to that extent. All the best to you and soon they will beg you to come back because you are un-jabbed.

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I know WA well, from Broome to Albany. A former good friend and consultant, UWA prof of int. medicine & PhD (retd) rushed to take all the shots. Utterly, utterly incomprehensible. The policy will eventually devolve into last man standing. Meanwhile, Jabcinda is a blight on our landscape and, as you say, the embodiment of evil. Her political days are probably numbered unless they throw the election, which seems a possibility given WEF skullduggery knows no bounds.

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At my workplace you need to have a PhD to hold a position. In my section, out of 130 staff, only one other said no to the jabs. The majority rushed to get them and I know of at least five that have been injured permanently (heart) and a number of others spent time in hospital after the jabs. You would think that these people would be educated enough to ask basic questions about the whole jabbing scheme. Nothing, just blind compliance. I used to think the majority of these people would be critical thinkers - quite clearly that is not the case which is incomprehensible. If these people cannot muster enough brain cells to question such lunacy what can one expect from the rest of the population?

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To be honest after seeing the media go ballistic in their coverage of the "hunt" for the aboriginal youths that escaped the Covid detention in spite of the fact that they were healthy, it is possible that worse happened. I too look forward to see the demented scum that pushed for the mandate at my workplace pay the price for their murderous behaviour. It was not a surprise that they pushed through the mandate as the one in charge is some real piece of work. The difference between her and a Dalek is that she is physically still human to some extent. I applied for an exemption and it was turned down within the day with clear message that either I get the jab or I lose my job. Fortunately, I had leave available so I took time off to consider my legal options. The mandate was dropped once the parents of students from overseas started legal action against the uni. The new approach is that it was all done to ensure everyone's safety but my fight is just starting. I have no intention of going along and pretend that it was all a mistake.

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Best of luck for you too. In my case I am not at all conflicted. This was done with the intent to destroy all those who resisted and the only way to prevent a repeat is for these monsters, because they are monsters, is to be held accountable. Hopefully, the legal system will deliver a suitable "reward" for what they have done.

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No, "everybody" does not "like" the comment.

Righteous anger is due. Retribution and atonement are due.

WE WILL NOT FORGET.

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Well said. We're still not out of the woods.

No amnesty for Nuremberg crimes.

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Can you point me in the direction where I can find the laws that would be applied and who would apply them? The US system of government is designed for a lack of accountability by those who are in control either directly or indirectly (by delegation of authority). You must do something egregious, meaning, stepped on the wrong toes, to suffer any consequences. As a private citizen, you have no standing in court to bring forth much of what is discussed. Some of the "legal" people mouthing off are what are called "controlled opposition", no different than the squaring off of R's and D's. between each other. You will have to fix "the system" before getting any "justice", whatever that will mean.

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There is no “I have read your comment and you make several good points” or “I appreciate your prospective” button. The like button Indicates the comment has been read or acknowledged. As I culled through the numerous responses I see plenty of indignation and anger and disgust a d fury. If you look at other posts many impolite things are said. So, I think we are good here.

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Why spill bloody rage on your keyboard? What does it accomplish. I have a steady burn that won't go out. The thugs that shoved the vaccines on people and are STILL doing it? They deserve to pay for it. And the people around me who thought it was fair to stick unvaxxed in concentration camps, or subject young men to myocarditis, I won't forget.

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"A steady burn that won't go out" - brilliant description. I feel the same.

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Can you point me in the direction where I can find the laws that would be applied and who would apply them? The US system of government is designed for a lack of accountability by those who are in control either directly or indirectly by delegation of authority. You must do something egregious, meaning, stepped on the wrong toes, to suffer any consequences. As a private citizen, you have no standing in court to bring forth much of what is discussed. Some of the "legal" people mouthing off are what are called "controlled opposition", no different than the squaring off of R's and D's.. You will have to fix "the system" before getting any "justice", whatever that will mean.

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"Everybody 'likes' this comment. Wow ! I guess this polite discussion is how people feel about this ? Where's the FURY..."

Igor kinda put his thumb on the scale by saying he wished he could like it 10 times. A truth and reconciliation commission would just be a whitewash, Igor. I for one want to see Nuremberg tribunals for the perps.

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There were and are, I imagine, videos of citizens being swarmed by Australian police and force vaxxed. I also saw a video of a child being forcibly removed from her mother to be force vaxxed. I'm sure this was the norm ? I get my info from a friend who has relatives in Australia.

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This was not negligence. This was done with intent. The secrecy and indemnity that was demanded by the big Harma was precisely because they knew how awful the jabs were. Their own testing showed a total failure of the jabs and these tests were biased to make the jabs look like they worked. They could not get the jabs to work even for 28 days! Who knows what the effects are after 5 years? So far the damage has been massive and to add insult to injury, the jabs were paid with tax payer money and they still push new jabs. No forgiveness. PERIOD.

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Sorry but no forgiveness is warranted. What they have done to kids and old people is blasphemous and they need to pay for the horror they inflicted on those that needed protection most.

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I’m not sure they are capable though.

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They are definitely not capable - it takes a really sick creature to do what they did. The isolation of the old people and masking and social distancing imposed on kids were sadistic and evil. They knew the measures were absurd and did not provide any benefit. How so many people went along with it is depressing. I kept my son from going to school as long as they had the mask diktat here because it was meant to condition kids to accept abuse without question. Parents should have been up in arms about it but only a handful at the school raised any objection. Pathetic.

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The focal point for retribution must be Anthony Fauci. His role in suppressing honest reporting and research as well as effective therapeutics makes him a good place to start.

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He has a bigger body count than Josef Mengele.

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I find his evil staggering. And it's not over yet with the NIH and CDC still under his thumb.

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under their thumb more like it. they would have got rid of fauci decades ago if he wasn't a good employee.

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He's an effective pharma whore who somehow controls who gets funded at universities or govt labs. My own personal theory is that he cut a deal with Satan about forty years ago and that's opened doors for him. It doesn't exonerate the flunkies who bend over and take what he dishes out for their miserable paychecks and grant money. They're all dogs from hell.

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Many, many times over.

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He is very example of what happens if one "moves on". Read up on his handling of AIDS - it was a trail run for COVID. The evil of this creature has no bounds. That is why true justice is imperative and everyone involved in the horror needs to be held accountable.

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Read about his attempted destruction of Peter Duesberg, it is utterly sickening. Duesberg is a hero for refusing to roll over

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Yeah, that is what psychopaths do. It is absolutely astounding that he has been in the position at the NIH for so long. Should have been in prison after the AIDS fiasco.

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I think Collins should stand with him.

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He sure fooled Billy Graham's son. A lot of people will die from trusting the untrustworthy. Gullibility can kill.

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Absolutely. He is pure evil too.

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A lot of doctors are guilty of criminal negligence. But it remains to be seen how many will die from their own profound ignorance.

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At least 80 previously healthy doctors in canada have died over the last year- see both Steve Kirsch substack and Mark Crispin Miller substack. Most just “died suddenly”, or “cause of death unknown”. All of those doctors had multiple “cupcakes” (mRNA injections) Thecovidblog.com also shows several cases of SADS doctors.

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those in power created modern medicine then trapped doctors into serving the control system at risk of losing their incomes so they wouldn't be able to eat, cloth their families and pay off their student debt, etc... system also isolates everyone so most thing they stand alone and so standing up is like showing up for a firing squad... of course the psychopaths among them had a welcomed killing field... so we need a balanced justice system to resolve this... exposing the extent of this so every citizen of the world sees this and reparations are made for all the damaged people and all those murdered... its a very big project

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Literally every industry and institution operate inside this Luciferian control model.

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you can get free clothes in the charity shop. are you really suggesting some minor financial challenges justifies any of this? A doctor could get a new job pretty easy even if it was for a lower wage. Dr Kaufman for example doesn't seem to be having any financial difficulties: https://odysee.com/@AussieFighter:8/Dr.-Andrew-Kaufman---Do-Viruses-Really-Exist--amp--Can-They-Be-Transmitted:3

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is that what I am saying?

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"Forgiveness and prison time can go together." Ha ha well said.

If you ask me, even the dead can be forgiven.

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I have no problem with forgiveness, so long as it's given posthumously.

Lock and Load!

Never Forget! Never Forgive!

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Yes, I'll forgive from beside their graves.

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Completely agree. I would add that this is also a case of willful blindness, which is also a legal concept, which I believe involves even greater culpability than criminal negligence. Absolutely, it fits the bill for Oster, whose expertise and access to information make it certain that her "ignorance" was intentional.

Whatever her reasons for willfully refusing to see what was plainly visible and blindingly obvious to anyone in her position--a pusillanimous need to fit in among her brainwashed circle, narcissistic ambition in the corrupt worlds of academia and journalism, pleasure in wielding social power--she must be held accountable.

Her arrogant, entitled demand (thinly veiled as a "request") to be let off scot free, when this is far from over, and while serious, deadly, harms are still being committed over this country and the world, without so much as a weak apology, is insulting to anyone with a conscience.

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In fact, she is advocating for school mandates in the article!!

A Midwestern Doctor : "much of this article was intentionally deceptive. What I am more surprised by is the degree of a lack of insight the author shows into the mistakes that were made. I should note that this is very common behavior you will observe from those who have been influenced by cults or cult like groups."

~ https://open.substack.com/pub/amidwesterndoctor/p/dissecting-the-deceptive-plea-for?r=ft46p&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Excellent comment...

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" a legal concept called "Criminal negligence." There's another one called "Duty of Care". However, citing ignorance as a cause of criminal negligence seems to absolve those who were not negligent but deliberately culpable in their acts.

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As doctors are losing credentials for speaking the truth ethically, these people want clemency from duty of care, obligation of being a decent human and do no harm, and competent consumers of medical literature.

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