The links I shared above FROM SUMMER 2021 stated 43-76% of deaths or hospitalizations were fully vaccinated, in places all the way from Israel to UK to Vermont (and these were just the instances where they were willing to admit the high percentages of deaths in the vaccinated by making excuses, which was quite rare for them to admit at the time). Of course 43-76% is not "few", don't you agree?
The links I shared above FROM SUMMER 2021 stated 43-76% of deaths or hospitalizations were fully vaccinated, in places all the way from Israel to UK to Vermont (and these were just the instances where they were willing to admit the high percentages of deaths in the vaccinated by making excuses, which was quite rare for them to admit at the time). Of course 43-76% is not "few", don't you agree?
I remember reading the Irael and Vermont articles when they came out. The problem is that was not the case in the south of the United States...unless there was a big lie.
The final article was from Dec of 2022 which, by then, it was clear that most of the people dying from Covid were vaccinated.
Another problem exists. The amount of deaths since Omicron from Covid don't even come close to comparing to Wuhan, Alpha, and Delta variant deaths.
You make a lot of good points, but remember that the North vs. South comparison is fraught with the healthy vaccinee effect. This article showcases it well: "Since May 31, 2020, the South experienced COVID-19 mortality 26% higher than the national rate, whereas the Northeast’s rate was 42% lower."
That is a very good question regarding Russia, and I'll have to admit I don't have a satisfactory answer off the top of my head. The first thing I would note, though, is that EVEN IN 2020 Russia's reported excess death rates (I looked at the excess mortality site I linked to above) are close to DOUBLE those in the UK or US (which were already known for having some of the highest excess deaths in 2020), and over FIVE times the excess deaths of places like Canada or Germany in 2020. I have to say I have a very hard time believing those Russia stats are actually correct (although I don't have evidence that they are falsified either).
But why would Russia's excess deaths be massively overreported, as I strongly suspect they are but can't prove it? Again, I don't have a good answer, and I don't want to sound too "conspiratorial", but I can't help wonder if there was SOME huge incentive for doing so that was especially attractive to places such as Russia- just for example, something along the lines of "pandemic-era relief aid" that the likes of the WHO have a hand in. Articles like this really make me think in that direction: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/15/russia-slams-trumps-decision-to-cut-who-funding-as-coronavirus-rages-a69999. I have to admit that even I would have an extremely hard time letting an opportunity for "relief funds" go (and would probably manage to convince myself that relief funds are for the "greater good"), BUT definitely not experimental mRNA vaccines.
Anyway, your guess on what explains Russia's data (and more importantly, whether they are ACTUALLY valid) is as good as mine, obviously. What I DO know is that the overall mortality data and trends over time from prominent developed countries clearly do not support the notion that mRNA vaccines were any kind of "savior". If anything, the overall mortality data ironically seem to give much stronger support to NON-vaccine measures/NPIs for reducing deaths rather than mRNA vaccines, which is what that PLOS One article suggested as well, but there are definitely some holes in the support for NPIs as well- I do think that WHEN USED SENSIBLY, NPIs are far more safe AND effective than mRNA vaccines, but not "saviors" or anything like that. And to top it off, Pfizer and Moderna's own clinical trials showed ZERO all-mortality benefit of mRNA vaccines, because the cardiovascular risks totally negated the COVID benefits even when they were "working" against COVID.
I'm pretty sure Russia's numbers are self-reported. It could be vitamin D, comorbidities, I don't know. Maybe they did over report to get more funding...but they also hate losing face. Would love to know.
I totally agree that, in toto, the mRNA vaccines look to be seriously problematic (proximal deaths, increased proportion of iGG4 the more shots you get, and holy shit Geert may be right possibility).
My family and I all used Ivermectin. Many of my friends did too and two almost died. One was because he didn't know that the FLCCC had increased their Ivermectin dosage recommendation. His heart rate declined from 120 to 80 the day after he increased it. The other one who almost died did not take enough either and ended up in the hospital for a week on oxygen. Thankfully, the hospital had learned by then to avoid the vent.
I believe Nigeria really needs to be investigated The last I checked, they reported a total of under 500 deaths from Covid so far. They were one of the few nations to have endured enough variant waves to likely have had most of their population exposed to the virus prior to vaccination...which only amounted to about 33% when that vaccination dwindled. They could be our best placebo group.
All good points, and I am a strong believer in ivermectin- plenty of clinical trials show it DOES save lives when used CORRECTLY as you say. And yes, Nigeria (and some other developing countries) would be very informative examples- I think it's no coincidence that the excess mortality sites often omit them because showing their data would most likely be very embarrassing for the vaccines!
I chose Nigeria because it was one of the few with at least some of the data (Covid deaths and vaccine uptake numbers). You can find the Nigerian annual death rate here.
Sputnik V is the same as AstraZeneca (which is banned in Denmark, and other countries) Just like mRNA it forces cells to make spike protein. The mechanism of infecting the cell is slightly different, but it is just as good at killing you.
I don't disagree with you, but what about the fact that the clinical trial results for adenovirus vaccines were INFINITELY better than for mRNA vaccines in terms of all-cause mortality? (Please try to give an answer besides "the trials were fake"). Also see in the second link below: the UK and Germany, which were two of the biggest users of adenovirus vaccines for the initial series, showed a sharp DROP in excess mortality right around February 2021, which you can see was very unusual in the COVID era, and then of course excess mortality went up in those places and almost everywhere else after mRNA boosters- which would match the clinical trial results. I would NOT take an adenovirus vaccine by choice, but the evidence shows it's far better than mRNA if you are forced to choose between them.
The links I shared above FROM SUMMER 2021 stated 43-76% of deaths or hospitalizations were fully vaccinated, in places all the way from Israel to UK to Vermont (and these were just the instances where they were willing to admit the high percentages of deaths in the vaccinated by making excuses, which was quite rare for them to admit at the time). Of course 43-76% is not "few", don't you agree?
I remember reading the Irael and Vermont articles when they came out. The problem is that was not the case in the south of the United States...unless there was a big lie.
The final article was from Dec of 2022 which, by then, it was clear that most of the people dying from Covid were vaccinated.
Another problem exists. The amount of deaths since Omicron from Covid don't even come close to comparing to Wuhan, Alpha, and Delta variant deaths.
You make a lot of good points, but remember that the North vs. South comparison is fraught with the healthy vaccinee effect. This article showcases it well: "Since May 31, 2020, the South experienced COVID-19 mortality 26% higher than the national rate, whereas the Northeast’s rate was 42% lower."
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0265053
Also, what about in heavily vaccinated countries around the world?
https://www.usmortality.com/explorer/?c=USA&c=CAN&c=GBR&c=DEU&c=ITA&c=AUS&c=JPN&c=KOR&t=cmr_excess&ct=yearly&cs=bar&df=2017&dt=2022&sp=country&v=2
Good point, and Nigeria is one of your best arguments to make in that arena.
But, why is Russia through the roof for excess deaths when they didn't use the mRNA?
That is a very good question regarding Russia, and I'll have to admit I don't have a satisfactory answer off the top of my head. The first thing I would note, though, is that EVEN IN 2020 Russia's reported excess death rates (I looked at the excess mortality site I linked to above) are close to DOUBLE those in the UK or US (which were already known for having some of the highest excess deaths in 2020), and over FIVE times the excess deaths of places like Canada or Germany in 2020. I have to say I have a very hard time believing those Russia stats are actually correct (although I don't have evidence that they are falsified either).
But why would Russia's excess deaths be massively overreported, as I strongly suspect they are but can't prove it? Again, I don't have a good answer, and I don't want to sound too "conspiratorial", but I can't help wonder if there was SOME huge incentive for doing so that was especially attractive to places such as Russia- just for example, something along the lines of "pandemic-era relief aid" that the likes of the WHO have a hand in. Articles like this really make me think in that direction: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/15/russia-slams-trumps-decision-to-cut-who-funding-as-coronavirus-rages-a69999. I have to admit that even I would have an extremely hard time letting an opportunity for "relief funds" go (and would probably manage to convince myself that relief funds are for the "greater good"), BUT definitely not experimental mRNA vaccines.
Anyway, your guess on what explains Russia's data (and more importantly, whether they are ACTUALLY valid) is as good as mine, obviously. What I DO know is that the overall mortality data and trends over time from prominent developed countries clearly do not support the notion that mRNA vaccines were any kind of "savior". If anything, the overall mortality data ironically seem to give much stronger support to NON-vaccine measures/NPIs for reducing deaths rather than mRNA vaccines, which is what that PLOS One article suggested as well, but there are definitely some holes in the support for NPIs as well- I do think that WHEN USED SENSIBLY, NPIs are far more safe AND effective than mRNA vaccines, but not "saviors" or anything like that. And to top it off, Pfizer and Moderna's own clinical trials showed ZERO all-mortality benefit of mRNA vaccines, because the cardiovascular risks totally negated the COVID benefits even when they were "working" against COVID.
I'm pretty sure Russia's numbers are self-reported. It could be vitamin D, comorbidities, I don't know. Maybe they did over report to get more funding...but they also hate losing face. Would love to know.
I totally agree that, in toto, the mRNA vaccines look to be seriously problematic (proximal deaths, increased proportion of iGG4 the more shots you get, and holy shit Geert may be right possibility).
My family and I all used Ivermectin. Many of my friends did too and two almost died. One was because he didn't know that the FLCCC had increased their Ivermectin dosage recommendation. His heart rate declined from 120 to 80 the day after he increased it. The other one who almost died did not take enough either and ended up in the hospital for a week on oxygen. Thankfully, the hospital had learned by then to avoid the vent.
I believe Nigeria really needs to be investigated The last I checked, they reported a total of under 500 deaths from Covid so far. They were one of the few nations to have endured enough variant waves to likely have had most of their population exposed to the virus prior to vaccination...which only amounted to about 33% when that vaccination dwindled. They could be our best placebo group.
All good points, and I am a strong believer in ivermectin- plenty of clinical trials show it DOES save lives when used CORRECTLY as you say. And yes, Nigeria (and some other developing countries) would be very informative examples- I think it's no coincidence that the excess mortality sites often omit them because showing their data would most likely be very embarrassing for the vaccines!
I chose Nigeria because it was one of the few with at least some of the data (Covid deaths and vaccine uptake numbers). You can find the Nigerian annual death rate here.
Steadily falls in this graph.
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/NGA/nigeria/death-rate
Other sources showing an uptick in 2020-2021:
Shows the death rate steadily declining to 12.9/1k in 2019.
13/1k in 2020. An uptick to 13. something in 2021 statista's last year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/580345/death-rate-in-nigeria/ (you get one chance to view).
Then you can see here, it fell again in 2022 to 12.4/1k.
Thanks for sharing- the Statista link shows the actual deaths up to 2021 (the top link seems to be a "projection" after 2019).
Crap, I missed that. My bad, sorry.
No problem! It's good that you shared the other link that did have what it was supposed to!
Sputnik V is the same as AstraZeneca (which is banned in Denmark, and other countries) Just like mRNA it forces cells to make spike protein. The mechanism of infecting the cell is slightly different, but it is just as good at killing you.
I don't disagree with you, but what about the fact that the clinical trial results for adenovirus vaccines were INFINITELY better than for mRNA vaccines in terms of all-cause mortality? (Please try to give an answer besides "the trials were fake"). Also see in the second link below: the UK and Germany, which were two of the biggest users of adenovirus vaccines for the initial series, showed a sharp DROP in excess mortality right around February 2021, which you can see was very unusual in the COVID era, and then of course excess mortality went up in those places and almost everywhere else after mRNA boosters- which would match the clinical trial results. I would NOT take an adenovirus vaccine by choice, but the evidence shows it's far better than mRNA if you are forced to choose between them.
https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-excess-deaths-per-million-covid?tab=chart&time=2020-01-25..2022-12-31&country=USA~GBR~AUS~JPN~ITA~DEU~CAN
Spike does appear to the one of, if not, the main culprits in what we are seeing...via vaccine or infection.