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Lawrence Butts's avatar

I would bet that damaging the immune system plays a part in this. But I am sure (like everything else with the Gene Injection) the causes for this will remain a complete mystery to our entire medical community.

baboon's avatar

It's Climate Change dude, trust me, I'm a doctor!

Igor Chudov's avatar

If you were a doctor you would be baffled! :-)

baboon's avatar

You see, that's where you are wrong. Although I post as "baboon", I'm actually Al Gore, and have several (admittedly honorary) PhDs from America's most prestigious Universities. Bwahahahahahahaha!

😂

Charlotte's avatar

Your red behind was a dead giveaway, Al!

baboon's avatar

I knew I should have chosen the man/bear/pig avatar. Hidden in plain site, lol. I thought a baboon would be the ideal disguise. Urgh.

I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky climate denying, racist, domestic terrorist anti-vaxxers!

baboon's avatar

Just....can't...hide...the....Communism...dagnammit....

🙂

Fast Eddy's avatar

Inflamed... stop rubbing your butt in the Rat Juice... the spike protein is making it all puffy and red

baboon's avatar

It's naturally like that. Please don't give other baboons ideas, the redder the arse, the higher one's social standing.

TSMe's avatar

What do you need a PhD for. Climate Czar, John Kerry, declared understanding the climate issue was primary school level science?

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

And you invented the internet.

Mel's avatar

Yes, the baffled baboon doctors, scratching, bouncing, and gesticulating wildly, “We wuz LIED to!”

baboon's avatar

I'm telling you, you need to wear a mask because you don't want all the diseases I'm carrying. It's nothing personal.

Mel's avatar

Silly ape! Good one, babs!

Ministry of Truth's avatar

From his reply he is baffled! :-)

baboon's avatar

I'm not baffled, it's just the wind changed direction one day whilst I was looking confused and it stayed that way, worst luck!

Charlotte's avatar

Lol- yep, that’s the truth.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

White lab coat then? You must be there to help us all right? You would never deliberately cause us harm, so you could keep your big paycheck, right? I feel better already.

baboon's avatar

Basically, take a look at this image and swap a baboon with a Shiba Inu dog and you have nothing to worry about.

https://i.imgur.com/3Y1WlQb.jpg

As a baboon I don't get paid, see this:

https://i.imgur.com/lutmaS4.jpg

Bandit's avatar

I would trust the dog even if it wasn't dressed as a doctor. 😏

Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

No, it is (checking the latest narrative notes) the gas stoves and eating eggs!

baboon's avatar

You'll be telling me next that people cook eggs using gas stoves....oh the humanity!

Bandit's avatar

I haven't lived in a house/apartment that did not have a gas stove since I was 2 years old. I don't have asthma and my lungs are in great shape. I must be a throwback or something.

Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Likewise. We have reached a stage at which everything is responsible for the excess death with the exception of the jabs which are safe and effective. The saddest thing is that there will be idiots out there buying this nonsense and to make matters worse, they also vote. I had a colleague tell me about the "danger from eating eggs" in the context of getting sick from Covid and it was very difficult not burst out laughing. Normally, I would point that this is pure garbage but he is still masked from time to time so I am betting that talking to a wall might be more rewarding.

Bandit's avatar

Miko, you have my deepest respect. You kept yourself from laughing. On purpose.

I would have laughed my butt off. On purpose. But that, although lots of fun and my true feelings, isn't a good idea at work. (Which is why I quit, I couldn't bear the evilness in charge anymore.)

baboon's avatar

"to make matters worse, they also vote"

That's the crux of the matter isn't it? Voting requires an IQ test. This may be a horrible, eugenicist position, but isn't this fair? Should morons be allowed to vote?

George Carlin said that the average person is stupid, and God help the 49% of people who are below stupid.

Either allow a referendum on everything (and ban the press from commenting, because oligarchs will oligarch) or disenfranchise morons.

There is no way to have a functioning democracy if stupid people rule. There is a term for that now, it's called "idiocracy".

baboon's avatar

I live in a three hundred year old house with mains electricity and water. We have a gas stove run off canisters, no mains sewerage (we have a septic tank) and the house is heated using a wood fire.

I smoke way more than I should and am bigger, stronger and fitter than "men" half my age.

I get free-range, non GMO fed eggs from the local farm, 30 at a time for 10 euro cents each. Plus I drink raw organic milk from the farm next door.

According to the State of California, I should have died five years ago. 😂

Bandit's avatar

I'd have thought you should have died longer ago than that with all this careless living you've done all these years. 😉😊😋

I'd love to see your house! IRL. I have a beautiful pic in my mind though.

Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Yeah, can you imagine the horror? Double the damage....

baboon's avatar

Well, triple if you include the damage of Climate Change!

Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

My word, you are right. The emissions! That is too much, I do not know how they live with themselves.

Nancy's avatar

Or stress from worrying about the vaxxes!

Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Damage to the immune system, but also to other systems & organs (eg, circulatory, kidneys) are likely to weaken a body's ability to clear both an infection & the toxic residues it generates.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Yes wash strawberries in the sink with 2 tablespoons salt and 2 tablespoons of baking soda. 1/2 hour. I put mine on paper towel to dry . Just water and baking soda for the rest of the berries 20 minutes. I wash all my vegetables with baking soda. You can really see it in the broccoli it’s so green after rinsing. If you can’t buy organic, you must wash your food. It’s a hassle but you get used to it. There is an odorless tasteless spray they put on all citrus, a fungicide, it is really disruptive to our thyroid. Although they are told it won’t hurt us. I think they put it on everything to keep mold off. Wash well with baking soda.

Also if you drink teas and coffees at shops with paper cups, They spray them with a polyflouro,...type spay that keeps them from leaking. It was banned in 2008 but allowed back in use shortly after. The government sends in their lab data manipulators to spin their “its healthy for humans” stories and the workers believe them. They wear masks while spraying and think it’s ok once dried on 🙄. So timmies and Starbucks we drink poison. Some Starbucks will pour the coffee into your own mug. But timmies “are not allowed to touch our mugs, it’s a health hazard” since covid. They are wearing gloves🙄

Just like the fluoride stories. My ‘Holistic’ dentist says “it’s not the bad type of fluoride “. They have a good story spun for that. The powers that be do not want you not using fluoride at all costs......it’s a big one.

Mary's avatar

Good advice on washing food. It may be a good to wash all raw food as you have described.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Yes. I give my meat a good wash too, although I don’t think that helps much. Hormones and antibiotics. Gotta get grass fed. Some kosher products say no hormone or antibiotics right on them.

I bought a rack of pork chops last month from Costco. I don’t usually eat pork but these actually had lots of meat on them and 2 huge racks for $30 dollars. I like to just cook los one day and then left overs for a few.

The meat had no test. Neither of us liked them. They smelled a little chemically. I made a real good barbecue, tomato and organic smoked paprika sauce too.

We ended up throwing the meat out. It wasn’t bad. I think we are just used to grass fed. The coleslaw I made was delicious.

I think I know how gaaits says the children by 2025. There is sooo much shit out there. Make your own almond crackers. Only buy well fermented cheese. Also the mRNA technology is going into the childrens vaccines and the COVID shot.

Mary's avatar

I heard within the past year talk of putting mRNA tech into meat and animal products. I get the feeling that poetic justice may one day arrive to those who persist in tampering with the genetics of humans, plants and animals. I truly believe that literal monsters will be created that no one will be able to handle. Hopefully the vengeance will directed at those who had a part in the funding and in their creation.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Yes - you are correct. Organ damage and eventual death is the byproduct of this miss regulated system. These multiple jabbed folks with repeating infections are slowly dying. I don’t think you can survive 3 or more injections. I hope I am wrong.

baker charlie's avatar

I see that in a couple of my coworkers. They are constantly ill. I think one covers by working from home a lot since he is in position to do so, but the other is out now, likely for another week and she missed two weeks just before Xmas for Covid. Seems like every 2-3 months something lays them out for a week. It can't be good.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

No, they are headed for Pfizer complementary toe tags. Their immune systems are toast. No one can survive very long without a functioning immune system. Their DNA repair system is probably toasted too. So a Turbo Cancer may be in their future as well. This injection has so many ways it can kill.

baker charlie's avatar

I hate to see it. They are just joes who didn't think twice when it or the boosters were suggested. Long story but the former management in this place required vaxxes The next regime that hired me... hired back the best warehouse guy....he'd been fired for not wearing a mask and refusing the vac,,,for me its 'don't ask, don't tell' , but he rocks it and I'm glad.

Mary's avatar

You hit the nail on the head! And people behind this scamdemic knew everything you mentioned all along. And all you can hear from Bill Gates these days is that the covid jabs are not preventing covid or transmission. Apparently it isn't necessary for the covid jabs to protect from covid since they don't protect from any other diseases either. Those covid jabs are basically lethal injections for prisoners who aren't on death row. But I'll step aside and let the believers take whichever biological weapons and toxic chemicals they think will heal or save them from death and diseases.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Well they did say that it reacts suppressing that igG3 which is how allergy medication works to suppress the reaction of antibodies so things like cytokines storms don’t happen. So yes suppresses immunity, the more shots the more suppression.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Immunity suppression is going to be one of the “killers” with these injections. There are many more ways this “vaccine” will and is killing. The dropping dead suddenly are the lucky ones.

Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

"The dropping dead suddenly are the lucky ones."

Agree. Saw a video of Maddie de Garay the other day. Heartbreaking.

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

According to the TODAY show doctor, any pain discomfort or symptoms felt directly after the injection don't count as vaccine related as you aren't considered vaccinated until 15 days after the vaccination.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

I know - these folks were just let to slaughter like cattle. And still to this day most of them have no idea what has been done to them. I did a post about what I think is a “must see” movie for all Pure Bloods. You should watch it if you can. The ones left behind will not necessarily be the lucky ones. I found it on Amazon prime but you can also buy it. It is very intense and examines the world after a mass death event and how two people deal with the trauma that they have endured. https://open.substack.com/pub/lawrencebutts/p/i-think-were-alone-now?utm_source=direct&r=gjogf&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Crixcyon's avatar

The only expertise demonstrated by the medical mafia is the ability to prescribe drugs.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

And keeping their large direct deposits going

Patty's avatar

Never underestimate the power of denial.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

No shit,.... Fauking unbelievable.

Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Everyone has VAIDS! VAIDS VAIDS VAIDS!

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Yup - 2 injections = 75% of your immune system gone - 3 injections = 100% of your immune system gone.

Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Thank God I stopped at two in April/May 2021, almost two years ago. Hopefully it all bounced back by now.

Mary's avatar

Smart move. I think taking that snake oil fake medicine like many others is akin to playing Russian Roulette with your life and health. But there are some people who like rats will keep going back for more instead of looking into safer and better options.

baboon's avatar

Glad you are with us Ajax. The fact you can joke about it too is good. We'll have you as an honorary Pureblood. 🍻

Lawrence Butts's avatar

I hope so - glad you didn’t boost yourself into a box with a lid.

Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed. Knock on wood (though hopefully not the lid of a wooden casket).

Mary's avatar

If that is true. I won't be adding any fuel to the fire. Really don't need to as long as the biological weapons labs are in existence.

Bacca400's avatar

Dr Chesnut (no middle T) is doing great research on how the spike protein damages the body. The vaccines are super loaded with the spike protein. Most viruses get into a cell via one type of receptor which very few cells have. Thus the damage that virus does is limited. The spike protein works differently. It gets into cells with the ACE receptor (I think) which most cells have, so the spike protein damages most organ systems.

Here's his blog: https://wmcresearch.substack.com

It's a bit technical but readable.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

I am not a researcher or scientist but I have read a lot about this subject. Here is basically what happens. The injection does not stay in the muscle of the arm. It enters the blood stream. The spike proteins attach to vessel walls. They are a made of a foreign protein so the body attacks them. The vessel walls rupture causing the spikes to leak into the organs. They are attracted to organs that express ACE-2 receptors like the heart and reproductive system. In the heart for example they attach to the heart muscle and the body attacks them creating small scars on the heart muscle. These scars cause electrical problems that interrupt the heart’s beat. A workout or surge of adrenaline will cause sudden death. So wherever the spike proteins go they cause the body’s immune system to attack them. And yes they pass through the blood/brain barrier and attach to brain cells. The vaccinated are having their brains destroyed by the own immune systems. The vaccine turns the body into a spike protein factory with no off button. The more you know about all of this the less optimistic you become about surviving these injections. I hope something can be done to help the vaccinated folks.

Penelope Powell's avatar

I read that 71% of the sudden cardiac arrest is occurring in sleep due to the cortisol and other hormones that prepare you to wake up.

Thanks for your explanation above. I understand that hyperbaric treatment is helpful for some; I guess it forces oxygen into some damaged tissues, certainly including the brain. It's a common treatment for stroke, and I guess now may have wider applicability.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Your sleep cycle begins to produce adrenaline between the hours of 3 to 6 AM. Which is why people are dying in their sleep and athletes are dying after a big play. It puts their damaged hearts into atrial fibrillation. Without an immediate shock to restore the heart rhythm, they just die. There are folks who are dying from aortic dissection which is happening when the spike proteins attach to the aorta resulting in the immune system literally eating a hole in the aorta. This produces instant death. And last but not least, the spike proteins seem to be causing blood hemoglobin to misfold and clot. When blood supply is suddenly closed by multiple spike protein clots and you die from a massive heart attack.

And yes hyperbaric treatment can help. Here is a link to a post for mitigation/treatment of the vaccine. Share it if you can. https://open.substack.com/pub/informedchoice/p/treatment-protocols-for-covid-19?r=gjogf&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Dr Peter McCullough recommends hyperbaric treatment for long Covid folks.

statsman's avatar

Of course Covid does the same thing. My mother never got the vax. Had a bad case of Covid a year ago. Damn near killed her. When she went into the hospitial heart test showed she was fine. 6 months later she has a hole in her aorta.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Horrible! Was she treated with hospital "death" protocols then and no Ivermectine or Hydroxychloroquine? Aortic dissection can happen on it's own (but rarely) without the help of the spike proteins being attacked by the body's immune system and basically chewing a whole in the aorta. She was lucky to survive. I would assume since she was not vaccinated the hole was a rip in the aorta...

Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Dr. Peter McCullough noted recently that Nattokinase dissolves the spike protein. And we already know that NAC (N-acetylcysteine) cleaves the disulfide linkage in the spike, thus neutralizing it. And resveratrol (from grapes) and fisetin (from strawberries) can supposedly block spike's entry into cells as well, per the late Bill Sardi.

Penelope Powell's avatar

Ajax, if pos-covid or post-vaxx treatment interests you-- or if you want to maintain a file to help others:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/60974225d904306e5a2b1d06/t/61c38330f827fc78105ee328/1640203058315/FH+SPIKE+PROTEIN+SOLUTION+MERCOLA.pdf

World Council of Health

Here's an article from Dr. Mercola which includes the info from World Council of Health, but has additional material including references that contain even more detail.

https://refp.cohlife.org/_covid/How%20to%20Detox%20Spike%20Protein%20After%20COVID%20or%20Vaccine.mercola.r..pdf

Regards.

Penelope Powell's avatar

The lipid particles in which the other vaccine components are suspended cross all membranes: They cross cell membranes, blood/brain membrane, placenta-- everything.

Bacca400's avatar

Let me guess. And one lipid type is a hydrogel? Some hydrogels have graphene, which is super toxic in any form.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

You are correct. It is perfect “delivery” vehicle for the Spike Proteins. Billions are going to die from this injection.

Mary's avatar

It certainly appears to me that the genetic code has been cracked. But not for healing purposes that we used to hear about in years past. It seems to me that modern medicine does a better job of shortening lives and destroying human health generally speaking.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Yup - the current state of understanding of genetics is primitive. We are most likely decades away from “really” understanding DNA. What these idiots have done is like a cave man using a rock to break another rock. He has no idea why the rock broke the other rock. He just knows he was able to break the rock. Since we really don’t understand DNA, messing with it is a dice roll. After all, messing with the human genome is really messing with the future of human race.

Truthbird's avatar

Human beings are incurably hubristic. The very idea that we may someday "understand" DNA is a supreme example of this. We will never understand life, nature, how photosynthesis transforms pure energy into matter, DNA, or anything else which is and will always be a divine mystery. We are essentially ignorant apes, but unfortunately most of humanity likes to imagine that we're extremely intelligent higher beings.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

I respectfully disagree. We will at some point, be able to design and built sentient AI computers that will “allow” us to completely understand DNA and give us the “true” ability to manipulate it and even create life. What the current crop of meddlers in RNA technology have recently done will be seen as the future as an ill-conceived attempt to use the code of life without the real knowledge to do so.

Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, homo sapiens are not nearly as sapient as they think they are.

Penelope Powell's avatar

Honey, I wish what is happening were mere stupidity. Unfortunately, their quite determined campaign to continue their agenda must mean they've no objection to the injury & death that they're causing. Surely they are malevolent rather than stupid.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

I am not sure about their intent. I believe that the vaccine was a tool with the ultimate objective being control not genocide. But with that being said, they "know" now that there is a major problem. You will never see someone who heads up a company who has been accused of something illegal admitting they did anything wrong or that there is a problem. What they "always" do is double down and make phone calls to their investors to assure them nothing is wrong. That is what is happening right now. Until the handcuffs are put on these folks, they will continue to pretend there is nothing wrong and push more injections. Once they admit anything, they know they are on a road to prison cell or a strong rope. The truth is coming out. We literally have thousands of criminals to arrest, try and punish. I wrote a post on this last year. Will there be room in Argentina for all the Vaccine Genocide Criminals? https://open.substack.com/pub/lawrencebutts/p/will-there-be-room-in-argentina-for?r=gjogf&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Igor , sometimes just writing about what’s in your head is good enough for your readers . 🤗

Fast Eddy's avatar

It will be a 100000000x better than anything on CNNBBC....

Jason's avatar

I think new variants are evading the immunity of vaccinated people. That said, I’m unvaxxed and had COVID in January and it was pretty nasty with fatigue, loss of smell, cough, etc. My 5x vaxxed parents have COVID right now and (thank goodness) it seems mild. But statistically I’m still very glad that my kids and me are unvaxxed...the odds are in our favor overall.

Lawrence Butts's avatar

The odds are that you have god given natural immunity now. Getting one this variants is the best thing that can happen to an unvaccinated person. These variants are less deadly and more transmissible. Your parents on the other hand (like my relatives) have immune systems that have almost no IgG3 cells (the good guys) and a ton of IgG4 cells (the tolerate ones). These new infections are usually mild but they will not be able to clear them from their bodies. Their dominate IgG4 cells will tolerate the infections rather than fighting the infections. They will not get any natural immunity either. This is why vaccinated folks get Covid multiple times. Their immune systems are damaged permanently (we think).

Miss G.'s avatar

in december just before christmas i (not injected) got it 4 days after my mum (who has 2 injections). i got it from her... we had the same symptoms. they followed like clockwork. she spent 3 days in bed. i spent 1 day on the couch. super achey bones. a bit fluey but nothing else was severe or remarkable. but the fatigue continues, and we both got gastro yuck that is just starting to improve.

i can understand the ‘viruses are a hoax/ it’s just detoxing’, but then why did i get what my mum had just 4 days delayed from her symptoms?

if covid(viruses) doesn’t exist then what are Ralf Barik (sp?) and Daszak (EcoHealthAlliance guy) inserting HIV components into?

Fast Eddy's avatar

Igor posted something exposing this 'there are not viruses' psyop a month+ ago... it's a stitch up

baker charlie's avatar

It's as distracting as the damn MIHOP/LIHOP, was it a ray gun or a mini nuke arguements from 20 years ago, and just as productive in the end.

Miss G.'s avatar

i understand the theory.

however we seem to have man made viruses.

maybe the concept of viruses was invented, and now scientists are splicing proteins to create the myth.

DrLatusDextro's avatar

So, a bundle of sailors on a ship get boils, hair loss, sickness, teeth loss. They believe they are infected with some kind of evil spirit or weird disease and they keep their distance from each other. After all, it can be fatal.

Scurvy.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Yes. They think now that Alzheimer’s is a type of scurvy of the brain........The four arteries feeding blood to the brain get plugged up and the large vitamin C molecule does not get through the blood brain barrier. Not sure if it’s just the arteries not delivering or the blood brain barrier getting encrusted with fluoride?

Joy's avatar

Great answer. The scamdemic was all about the jabs.

Alex's avatar

Is radiation sickness also not real because scurvy exists?

Miss G.'s avatar

how does scurvy disprove viruses?

(side note, they carried barrels of sauerkraut onboard the ships and eating it prevented scurvy... i’d guess the probiotics helped with disease prevention)

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

https://modernfarmer.com/2014/04/magical-sour-cabbage-sauerkraut-helped-save-age-sail/

I can’t find where captain cook learned of the sauerkraut , he just loaded his ship with it. 😏 it does explain the chemical reaction of the cabbage metabolizing and leaving vit C and B vitamins as a product, it’s a good probiotic.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Also fermenting the cabbage increases the vitamin c content of sauerkraut.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Dr.latusdextro above was talking about a time in the past when they thought all sorts of things were responsible for ships illness, when it was just scurvy. I read recently where Alzheimer’s was also a type of scurvy. It was just anFYI. Nothing to do with viruses.

Richard's avatar

There no Covid to be immune to. Virology is pure fake junk science.

Don's avatar

You've obviously never had the illness, so your opinion carries almost neglible weight with those who have experienced it, and know that it differs substantially from earlier illnesses. Until you can provide a better framework for explaining the myriad things that virology does pretty well, I'll stick with the existing paradigm. (I'm willing to consider new input; just bring your evidence.)

DrLatusDextro's avatar

No Sir. You bring your evidence. You show the 'virus' that you allege infected you or better you prove an infection over a physiological healing crisis precipitated by an environmental assault common to us all, or to most of us. (Hint: there are a multitude of potential environmental challenges that might result in an affliction that when also denied indicated treatment proves fatal for some. The stated WHO criteria of clinical symptoms are about as non-specific and meaningless as one can possibly get. The presence of ubiquitous fragmentary sequence doth not a disease make.

Don's avatar

Until better explanations arise (I'm waiting!), I turn to the body of knowledge we call virology as evidence. It may not be bullet-proof (Is anything?) but it works a HELL of a lot better than the empty psycho-babble rap presented by "No-virus" trolls.

The presence of a ubiquitious pattern of symptoms indicates an identifiable contagious illness, which has yet to be explained by proponents of "Stressors" or "Toxins."

The distracting arguments here, though interesting in their own right, are NOT constructive for the purpose at hand. I'm here to assemble evidence of willful harm by trusted leaders, and to see that they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law (and maybe more). We can consider the tools they used some other time. "They" call it a virus; I'm perfectly content to hang them with that.

John Sbrochi's avatar

Yes - the hanging part is the most important!!

DrLatusDextro's avatar

The evidence suggests that "virology" may be readily falsified. https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition/ The harm inflicted by synthetic polynucleotide (cobbled together computer generated in silico ... nothing to do with an alleged "virus" "exosome" or "virion" ~ all potential products of induced apoptosis). To effectively inflict a terrible harm upon humanity based upon a fraudulent narrative compounds the evil. This construct has been employed before and may be summarised as, create the problem and provide the "(final) solution."

In this instance, the notion of 'contagion' is neither demonstrated or proved, but assumed, as you so ably demonstrate. A common experience does not denote contagion and the attempt at dismissing a debate on the basis of some faux-authoritarian argument appears intellectually limiting.

Penelope Powell's avatar

The view that there's no covid, no real virology & no contagion is a view fed to us by the Intelligence "community" to divide us and discredit us.

It's very much like Flat Earth-- and for the same purposes.

STH's avatar

Then why do antivirals work if there’s no such thing as a virus?

Dan P's avatar

I’m convinced (although it is only speculation) that the so called boosters were designed for these delayed type of outcomes. A delayed negative efficacy with even worse outcomes overall to disguise any immediate correlation from the jab and to continue to prolong the so called pandemic.

Dhammafarer's avatar

Why don't you guys take ivermectin for prevention? I take it since two years and haven't been sick at all. All around me got it. All masked and vaxxed. I'm traveling a lot, sit in cars with extremely coughing people. I seem to have good health like a horse;) 😉🐴

Lawrence Butts's avatar

Yup - I take it every day. Horse paste is the cheapest way to go. I get it at Tractor Supply. I can buy it from India but it costs more. I am 71 and haven’t been sick in 20 years. I have for years taken Vitamin C, D3, zinc. I also exercise every day and go outside (weather permitting) everyday. I think 60% of the people in my town are overweight blobs of shit who spend most of their time eating and watching TV. They might as well die because they useless land whales who only come out of their houses to search for more food. I don’t understand how we got to this point. Fat, stupid and lazy as fuck people who line up for injections like it’s a sale if wide screen TVs?

Don's avatar

EXCELLENT suggestion... a single "Normal" dose every two weeks seems to be enough to keep most people safe; you could take it every week if you are particularly concerned.

My mom just turned 87; plain old "Horse paste" has served her well. I got over-confident, stopped after several months, and contracted Delta after leaving my secluded residence (after long lockdowns) for a busy day of shopping and exercise at the gym.

shibumi's avatar

What dosage are you taking? I'm curious.

Dhammafarer's avatar

The first few month in 2021 I took 12mg once a week. Then i upped it to 24mg. I've read somewhere that if you took it three month straight, you somehow have longer lasting protection. But the results were not really clear yet. But that's how I fare. Every two weeks i take 24mg and one extra when I'm around sick people. I also take daily vitc, d, and Amla pills.

I get my ivm online in India medicinevilla.org .

I got it send to Southeast Asia in two weeks. Relatives in Germany ordered same, but German Nazi customs cracked down on it, but lo and behold they got their money back. But that was early 2021. Hope they still have good service and didn't get to greedy.

Hope you guys beam with health.

(Check out Amla for cholesterol levels)

Don's avatar

(Not speaking for Original Post) My family uses the "Normal" dose (12 mg for average weight), not the increased therapeutic doses prescribed by FLCCC.net.

Every week or two seems to suffice.

Miss G.'s avatar

i understand IVM’s available over the counter in many places but not in Canada. but at this point i’ve grown fairly distrustful of pharmaceuticals.

i’ll get over the effects of being sick, and then i should have fairly robust immunity. sometimes it takes the body a while to heal and detox.

Bull Dog's avatar

Hey, I got Covid in Jan and it was much worse than one year ago! Very similar to your experience.

My wife, same.

We are unvaxxed.

Richard's avatar

You got sick you didn’t get Covid. You know that the Bio Weapon was designed to transmit to other people right?

Pablo's avatar

Don't make up bs, please.

I had covid. That's a fact. And it was not the damn flu.

Richard's avatar

How do you know? The fraud PCR test? I wonder how many people know the VAXX Bio Weapons are transmissible between people.

Pablo's avatar

They tested me for covid19, the flu and strep throat at the clinic. I was positive only for covid. That was last September. I was sick over 8 days. Unvaxxed. I took vitamin C, D3, zinc and quercetin.

Richard's avatar

Again…tested you how? The fraud PCR test? Sounds like you had a bacterial infection for sure.

As I said…the VAXX is transmissible to unvaxxed people.

Jane Doe's avatar

The covid tests have been exposed over and over as 95% FALSE positive. I cant believe i still have to say this after it was reported by medical experts in early 21.

Jane Doe's avatar

Show links to the ACTUAL viral isolate. Scores of govt health agencies have admitted to FOIAS : “ we have no Covid 19 isolates”. Go research this.

Pablo's avatar

Everytime I read covid existence denial comments, I think the author is part of the controlled opposition, which tries to muddy the waters.

Covid exists. It is a chimera created by those that should be prosecuted, together with those that made the vax. Coincidentally, both groups are the same one.

Jane Doe's avatar

Again go look up any govt that claimed they had a viral isolate for covid 19. I did. Many times. I read the CDC claim and followed their own lab link which LITERALLY stated, “ we could not find the covid 19 isolate “. Same thing for UK and Ireland amd many other countries. Its a bioweapon. Not a virus. Do the actual research

Pablo's avatar

Okay, so what I had was caused by a moth, right? Because I had fever (a fact that is measurable with an apparatus) and really bad sore throat for several days (another fact; I don't lie). And I tested negative for flu (a virus) and tested negative for strep throat (bacterial infection). But, maybe the clinic lied like a rug to me that day.

JO's avatar

I 100% agree with Pablo. If people don't believe in viruses, then fine, that's their choice. But no matter what they want to call it, they don't want to have this damn illness. I had covid (confirmed with multiple tests) last July. It is hands down the sickest that I have ever been in my life. The respiratory symptoms were bad enough, but what made covid so strange was the awful neurological symptoms. This virus was made in a lab and we need to hold the developers responsible. Saying that this is not caused by a virus makes it more difficult to hold them responsible.

shibumi's avatar

For what it's worth, I'm un-injected and had C0VID in late '20. Since then, my husband (also had COVID) and I had something that was not C0VID last summer. I never get sick in the summer. Fever, cough and exhaustion. He got over it in a few days, mine lingered for a few weeks.

Before I had C0VID, it was at least 20 years since I had any illness with a fever. Not sure what's going on now, but the fact that I had another random fever/cold that hung on for weeks is weird for me.

Richard's avatar

You people keep saying you got “Covid” what diagnosis led you to believe you had Covid? The fake fraud PCR test?

Don's avatar

Personal EXPERIENCE is all it takes; no testing is necessary at all. You are fortunate to have avoided the illness and its damage, but unlucky to lack the experience and verification it brings. I wish I hadn't become complacent about taking preventative ivermectin, BUT NOW I know first hand that Delta was not an ordinary flu or cold bug. Anyone interested can read my description of earlier Covid-19 strains, in my reply (above) to Robyn S.

Richard's avatar

“ Personal EXPERIENCE is all it takes; no testing is necessary at all.” - Science

Don's avatar

No PCR testing, Dick -- see the closing statement of your previous comment. Of course all hypotheses are subject to experimental verification; why did you choose to overlook the obvious reference?

Janet's avatar

I probably had it after our trip to NY for Christmas. Cold symptoms and then a horrible headache and vomiting a few days later plus a slight fever all in one afternoon through the evening. Or flu. I didn’t test but it all went away the next day leaving a runny nose and slight cough. Another natural immunization? Unvaxxed of course.

Roger's avatar

"My 5x vaxxed parents have COVID right now".

How do they know it's covid and not a common cold?

Sasha's avatar

I just talked with a nurse two days ago that works at the local hospital in my California town. She said the only people she's seeing sick in the hospital with covid are the vaccinated.

Igor Chudov's avatar

Very interesting!

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Can she get the data from the computers? Of course we have to remember that all flus are being called covid, That backfired on them....the pcr test is still 75% false positive.

baboon's avatar

"I calculated that wasting a minute of personal time of every reader who opens my emails would amount to about twenty-four person-days wasted"

That's an incredible statistic. Well done mate!

"the hospitalization rates per 100,000 population for January were about three times greater,"

Since the level of fraud is off the scale, I do wonder if they might still be classing vaxx adverse reactions as "Covid". On the other hand we know the immune-system destroying properties of the science juice (I have witnessed this first hand, people are constantly ill); there is literally no reason a healthy person should have any issues with Omicron.

As usual it's a mess. All I know is we are being lied to about everything.

Igor Chudov's avatar

Thank you!

You are asking good questions, statistics is bad and everything is possible, however I do think that we get some valid clues from this data, based on my experience.

Charlotte's avatar

The vaccinated really ARE sick all of the time. It’s really alarming. I work with someone boosted and I’m always plying vitamin drinks (Vitamins D, C and Zinc) into her to try and help (her former job required them- she’s furious).

Igor Chudov's avatar

Sadly I have similar observations...

Dhammafarer's avatar

ALL THE TIME!!! Especially the triple vaxxed. It is so mindboggling. I haven't been sick for years. Proud Novaxx

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

They have to drink white pine tea. Apparently. Taking melatonin and tryptophan keeps it from staying. Also the people on metformin/ Berberine are also lucky the mRNA is not staying.

John Sbrochi's avatar

Current lie - somewhat off topic - is the 4th balloon / cylindrical object in our airspace. Distraction? Hoping for a Biden bump in the polls? False flag for WW3? I can't decide. I just know it's a lie!!

shibumi's avatar

My vote is false flag space alien invasion to distract us from... something.

CBDC implementation? H5N1 flu release? Hunter laptop? Who knows?

Just a Clinician's avatar

balloon release of H5N1?

Wanting us to believe in a balloon release of H5N1?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7173052/

Coco Of 3's avatar

Me too. The false flags have to stop. Fox News was all over the fear porn. All while our President was entertaining governors and attending a concert.

baboon's avatar

We are way beyond balloons this weekend, the US, Canadian and Chinese governments are now shooting down UFOs. Obvious psyop - project Blue Beam?

John Sbrochi's avatar

WTH? Psyop to set up a One world government?

baboon's avatar

That is the idea, yes.

Reagan gave a speech about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag44dRO8LEA

But the idea was known by the Nazi, Wernher Von Braun a long time ago:

https://youtu.be/DIIvWKFmiJo

Are TPTB insane enough to go through with this? This weekend's events suggest, yes, they are.

Just a Clinician's avatar

"Unidentified" just means they're not telling us.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Bah. It’s so confused in the data,....no flus, no pneumonia, just covid, but PCR test is 75% false positive, so it may say it’s not covid also, but they don’t want say ITS THE VACCINE ( we won’t get the money then) 😵‍💫CANT SEND THEM HOME....THEY’RE SICK, WHAT THE FAUK WE GUNNA DO. Let’s call it covid and cash in on it. .....yeah.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

The pcr test for covid is still 75% false positive. That hadn’t changed. And as the tests creator says.... “you can have anything and test positive for covid if your body is fighting something”

freelearner's avatar

I wonder if there has been an increase in autoimmune conditions which has then led to an increase in immune system suppressing medications, in addition to any immune suppressing side effects of the vaccine itself. Somewhere there must be data on prescriptions being written?

I just took my mother to another funeral, this time of a family friend who developed extremely severe psoriasis after vaccination, so extreme that someone from Johns Hopkins was brought into consultation (we are several states away) because it was unheard of. He was on high-dose steroids for 9 months and eventually succumbed to the now-familiar "multiple organ failure not otherwise specified." You just wonder how many others are on steroids following awful sequelae of the vaccines.

Laura Garcia's avatar

My mother was told to get the booster and flu shot at the same time. She was already on immunosuppressive medication for psorias, which they did not tell her to take a break from around vaccination. Within a month the problems began....and due to her age, 82, were attributed to heart issues and stroke. Although they had evidence of neither in the scans done. I, unvaccinated, who had been watching VAERS since the initial roll out of the vaccines due to concerns around what it might mean for one with a family and personal history of autoimmune/immune system dysfunction knew things did not add up. I got to see her once before being blocked out of the hospital during her 4th and final hospitalization. I told them after doing research to get a neurologist in to see her and that she likely had sudden onset myasthenia gravis. I felt it was caused by the vaccine. Turns out I was right. But due to a 11-12 day hospitalization with limited food and hydration she died. Basically, once they knew what they were dealing with they failed to give her the needed meds. And then she required ventilation to support breathing due to the MG crisis and she went into cardiac arrest due to dehydration. Makes me wonder how many elderly have died due to supposed “heart failure” or “stroke” that actually were suffering from adverse reactions to the vaccine. My only satisfaction is my diagnosis is on her death certificate and I was able to get an exemption for my teen daughters. In the end, really no satisfaction. I lived a nightmare that will haunt me for life. I pray others are spared, but glad I know the truth of the matter. Forever grateful I did not rush to vaccinate myself or my children. My gut and my research told me it was not a good idea. I have lived through losing friends and family to not complying and lost my mother because she complied. And I am left wishing that I had pushed back harder and early against the doctors caring for my mom. But if I am perfectly honest, I was just so damn tired of being treated like shit for my non compliance....it was the holidays and I had been caring for my sister that had undergone a major surgery. Spread too thin. But still.....regrets are for a lifetime. Stay vigilant.

freelearner's avatar

I'm so sorry to hear about this. I lost my father about 2 months after his Moderna vaccination (both batches were bad batches / hot lots) and he had an autoimmune illness prior to vaccination. He went downhill fast, was hospitalized about 6 weeks later (unable to walk by then) and died after 9 days in the hospital of multiple organ failure. I did file a VAERS report.

John Sbrochi's avatar

These stories are heart breaking. I appreciate you taking the time to file a VAERS report. So sorry for your loss.

Janet's avatar

sympathies, freelearner. So sorry.

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Thank you. He was 72, he should have lived longer. I appreciate your condolences.

Elizabeth Hanson's avatar

I'm so very sorry for your loss and that you had to go through such a tough experience. May you know peace.

Dr Linda's avatar

I am sorry does not adequately express my feelings. What a nightmare.

Ellen D Stone's avatar

Laura, sorry for your loss.

Janet's avatar

So sorry you experienced this nightmare. My sincere condolences.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

I have a friend who has experienced almost instantaneous paralysis in a matter of 2 hours (similar to a story from Pfraudulent Pfizer's trials. One doctor also blames his covid infection, while completely ignoring his Injected and boosted status. Lots of doctors have blood on their hands.

Truth 101's avatar

I have an injected friend who has pericarditis and has experienced paralysis (temporary.) Has your friend had any luck with treatments? Her Doctors have been useless as well.

John Sbrochi's avatar

Boy that's difficult to answer in a forum like this.

The hospital came up with NO diagnosis so just shipped him to a Rehab facility. The facility is screwed as they are trying to rehab something where they have no idea what's wrong. My friend is in some sort of delusion that it's going to spontaneously fix itself.

I tried to push my friend to see a neuro specialist, but he doesn't want to hear it. So I just sit back and watch.

Truth 101's avatar

I want to say that it is frustrating but it is more than that. Our "elites" inability and lack of willingness to get to the bottom of this is furthering the harm. My friend is totally awake now and regrets getting the injections. She will most likely be seeing a neurologist next . . .So sorry your friend is suffering. . . and you. . .

shibumi's avatar

Back in the day before the injections, I found an FDA website page {since disappeared} that detailed the "potential" side effects of mRNA vaxxines. One "potential" side effect (and there were dozens) were autoimmune disease. Aka the vaxx causes autoimmune disorders.

FYI, my mom had an autoimmune disorder. When I read that it was possible to trigger one, I was determined to stay as far away from that poison death jab as humanly possible.

Joy's avatar

My niece who has rheumatoid arthritis, that was under control for 10 years, now has so many flare ups since 2 jabs. Numerous med changes but not helping.

Charlotte's avatar

Oh, I’m so sorry, that sounds awful. The steroids don’t appear to be helping- I think Brian Mowrey Unglossed is also covering that angle right now.

Zade's avatar

One of flccc's recommendations is budesonide for severe covid when it's camped hard in the lungs. It probably is worth a try even if it isn't a panacea.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

Another Allopath murder...... steroids.

Brad0's avatar

Well, he didn't die of covid so I guess they sorta worked.

freelearner's avatar

I'm thinking they worked in the way they were intended to, but for a very different goal than covid prevention. He did get covid while already in the hospital and did spend time on a ventilator which gave him congestive heart failure, but you are right, that is not what ultimately killed him.

Jillian England's avatar

We could select a population of vaxed and unvaxed, test them all of Ab and run a HORVATHS epigenetic age test to compute DNA damage, (premature ageing) of both sets.

Test the two sets again in one year and see if the epigenetic drift was accelerating.

This would be better than guessing and tell us if vaccines were the cause of excess deaths AND if the damage was ongoing and getting worse.

Bull Dog's avatar

That sounds like very good science, so no chance sorry.

Vxi7's avatar

Vaccines are safe and effective. Nothing to test there!

According to the propaganda ministry.

Mel's avatar

My best armchair guess is the class switch to IgG4 antibodies in the multiply vaxxed. It’s causing prolonged Covid infections, co-infections with other pathogens, and general ill health that will likely lead to more and more autoimmune disease and cancers in the longer run. Meanwhile, your piece on “Endless COVIDs” seems to be holding up and the IgG4 class switch paper more recently published, appears to contain the answer. Normally, IgG4 comprises about 2-6% of our IgG class, but in the multiply vaxxed, it’s anywhere from 40-80% IgG4. These antibodies signal T cells to ignore the spike protein where it can continue to replicate happily in people’s various body parts, wrecking havoc. Thanks, vaccinators. No amnesty for ANY of you. Heaven help humanity.

Igor Chudov's avatar

That's definitely a possibility, I will add a link to that story and thanks

Mel's avatar

I just watched Dr. Phillip McMillan’s interview of the absolutely wonderful scientist, Jennifer Smith, PhD of Hawaii. It’s a MUST watch. You can find it on Dr. McMillan’s substack. I cannot recommend it highly enough, Igor and the rest of us here.

Patty's avatar

I find that all so diabolical

Mel's avatar

It is very wrong-headed to say the least. Evil is probably not too strong a word for what they have wrought. We barely know how to program the immune system properly, much less re-program it or “un-program” it. The hubris of these people is COLOSSAL.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You underrate yourself Igor. I'm sure the posts you disgarded would have been good. They don't need to be perfect. Having really high standards can sometimes be a negative. I've been waiting for you to post. Have you seen this, below?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/368389701_Age-stratified_COVID-19_vaccine-dose_fatality_rate_for_Israel_and_Australia

Charlotte's avatar

I think he might be the nicest guy on substack!

baboon's avatar

Igor is a legend.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That's my opinion too. Actually, I'd go further. It's not an opinion. It's

a fact!

Patty's avatar

We were very fortunate to have found Igor.

PNW Ninja's avatar

I’m old school - using RSS to view substack articles. These won’t show up in open/read stats.

Keep 'em coming, Igor!

Allen's avatar

There's no such thing as "Covid" outside the propaganda system. You still have a long way to go.

We are living through the biggest worldwide organized crime since WW2. The scale of the deception is too large for even many who consider themselves “in the know” to accept or comprehend and remain trapped in some version of the "Covid" merry-go-round.

There's no such thing as "boosters" you are using the language of your oppressor. These are all poisonous injections.

There are no "variants" either- they made that up to continue revenue streams and to cover up the damage of the poisonous injections.

People are having their immune systems wiped out by these poisons. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Covid-19, the disease, is nothing more than a disease of ATTRIBUTION to other causes.

There is no such thing as "Covid 19" except as a criminal conspiracy.

Covid-19, the media event, was the Trojan Horse constructed to usher in a complete transformation of our society.

Covid-19™, the operation, was never an epidemiological event, it is a business model meant to increase the portfolio’s of the super wealthy.

Put simply, Covid-19 was not a widespread medical emergency, it was a money laundering scheme, a massive psychological operation and a smoke screen for a complete overhaul and restructuring of the current social and economic world order.

Don's avatar

Again (as in other forums) I call BS on Allen's empty rhetoric.

Allen never has any alternative explanations, but wants to dump the thousands of things that make pretty good sense when a biochemical/virological paradigm is employed. He is totally unable to explain how a "Poison"/toxin could propagate in the way we have seen Covid behave.

Allen has also never had the illness. I HAVE, and though I cannot say it was not caused by a physical poison, I can definitely tell you the illness is UNIQUE (not a cold or flu) and REAL.

IF there are no variants (as he claims), it should be abundantly clear that there must be multiple poisons -- because Alpha/Delta Covid was much worse than the Omicron strains. (No sane person would even think about denying that.) Why would "They" introduce a milder poison?

One must ask if these "No virus" people are merely an establishment attempt to diffuse our efforts.

Alan Butterworth's avatar

If I'm reading your comment correctly, your assertion is the thing people experienced in Dec 2019 / Mar 2020, was just another 'cold' (SARS infection) marketed now as 'COVID-19'.......or it was the beginning of continuous poisoning via vaccines? James Corbett reported at least eighteen months ago, there was a massive correlation between the uptake of 'flu vaccines' and the initial reports of deaths from 'Covid'. The countries that had the largest uptakes had the largest numbers of old people dying 'from covid'. I'm still unsure what influence 5G has had in all of this. The people who are perpetrating this are very clever bastards as many of people's symptoms look awfully like radiation poisoning rather than respiratory illness symptoms.

Tsipora Pereira's avatar

Yeah mate, well said. Most of these self-appointed "truthers" just fall in with the language of their oppressors.

What army in history ever marched to a victory singing the tune of their enemy?

It reeks of treason.

Brad0's avatar

Are you sure? I heard it came from a bat.

My doctor said I need all these injections to build up my immunity to fight of the disease? How did they take my money, the injections were free.

Crixcyon's avatar

Yes...from a 1954 Mickey Mantle Louisville Slugger. Your tax dollars paid for your injections because the government bought them ahead of time.

Allen's avatar

I thought it was a bat/pangolin centaur like winged hybrid creature which seeded certain places in the world, mainly hospitals and nursing homes, with targeted aerosolized virii.

That's what my authoritative "Covid oppositional celebrities" tell me so I must believe, must believe...

Could not have been straight forward mass murder for money in these hospitals right? Had to be a microbe.

Crixcyon's avatar

Over some 70 years of experiencing what would be termed as a cold or flu, they have not always presented the same symptoms. I can recall the worst flu I experienced was from 1975 and that lasted about 2 weeks. Sometimes a cold lingered for 3-4 weeks and that was sinus drainage and hacking up congestion from the throat.

If covid exists, prove transmission...the same goes for any virus. The sun's ultraviolet rays would normally kill viruses...but then viruses are dead cells until they come into contact with a host of some kind. But that would mean viruses can awaken from being dead. How does that work? Virology has a lot of 'splaining to do beyond its voodooism.

Don's avatar

How do seeds awaken from the dead after 1,000 years? Spores do similar things. Favorable conditions change everything.

Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

True,....but how do you help the vaccinated? I was looking at an old medical book from early 1900s. It show pictures of different corona viruses, (ie viruses that have a crown around them) all this with no electron microscopes. 😳 So the lie about ‘viruses’ in general go back a long ways.

These energies (viruses) are manipulated in labs to try to combine proteins from different animals.......so they are our ‘viruses’ manipulated with other animal proteins, that have short half lives, and are toxins put into our bodies to manipulate our dna.

That’s all ‘viruses’ do actually. Hang around and wait for something to fix......like the Maytag repair man. We have thousands of them. There are many all around us. Its our immune system that sorts them out. Even the man made other animal protein ones,....you need a strong immune system.

Robert Mitchell's avatar

Your comment on 15% fewer births is chilling not just for the demographic crisis it will create. Imagine that pregnant women are poisoned. The poison doesn’t kill them but kills the child they are carrying or prevents conception altogether. What about the children who are strong enough to survive? Will we see more leukaemia? Birth defects? Autism? Time will tell.

Igor Chudov's avatar

It is disturbing in many ways, including whether the just-born kids born to pregnand vaccinated mothers may be infertile. We will not know for another 20 years

shibumi's avatar

The other day, Dr. McCullough came out and said he suspects that the children born to vaxxed mothers will have damaged immune systems that they will pass along to their children. Nightmarish.

Woody's avatar

..but hey, the vaccine study of pregnant women (peoples) in the BMJ says the baby is well protected!

The MSM were all over this study.

https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj-2022-074035

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

A friend of mine just lost her daughter. The daughter had a miscarriage at 9 months which killed both her and the baby.

Canny Granny's avatar

I’m not liking this post. That’s horrible. Prayers for your friend.

Canny Granny's avatar

And the rest of her family and you as well.

Dr Linda's avatar

That’s horrible; devastating. Your grief must be overwhelming, I can’t even imagine. I am so sorry.

Charlotte's avatar

Could 6-9 months demonstrate a peak window of spike production in the body with the jabs and then if they happen to catch wild covid during that same time frame is that what is sending them to the hospital? I’m also confused with the unvaccinated numbers there- is that actual unvaccinated, or those with only the first 2 shots?

Zade's avatar

I think the data in his top graph was for "any dose". It seems that would mean number of shots, and that wasn't used to class the data at least in that graph.

JB's avatar

Excellent work Igor - you’re a digital Sherlock on the side of truth and discovery.

You can ‘steel man’ your point by comparing the hospitalization rate for the ‘unvaccinated 80+ ‘22 week 13’ to the ‘6-9 mo 65-74 hospitalization rate’ ... 243% higher!

Would take some contortionist level mental gymnastics to provide a convincing confounder to explain how this is possible.

GVB has been silent. His immune selective pressure via fixation due to OAS seems to be a certainty at this point, hope that this isn’t an indication of his virulence hypothesis.

Mckeekitty's avatar

Am I the only one that wants to go through Igor's trash?

My God! What a treasure trove that would reveal!

General John H Forney's avatar

I just hope the "Black Suburbans" aren't circling his house! 😎😎

Janet's avatar

🙋🏻‍♀️

Brad0's avatar

I think it's the balloons

Fear's avatar

Those aren't balloons.... they're giant covid spores.

Ozkar's avatar

I think it is all of the above.

Just a Clinician's avatar

Yes. We have to resist thinking it is just one thing. Biology is complex.