We are the ones who carry out evil. Obeying is the evil. And everybody believes in it. Evil is here because we live in a free will universe. It's up to each individual to choose correctly. Evil is done by the doctors and nurses, by the mothers and fathers that put the mask on their children and jab them without finding out what is in those things. Totally give up their thinking abilities to authority. And there are so many of them that it endangers others who want to walk freely upon this earth which is for everyone not just people who think the most money gets the resources. Our entire mindset is totally out of whack. I think I know the reason but it gets people angry. The people have the power but they give it away, on a platter.
denise - I've always enjoyed reading your comments, but this seems a bit pedantic...for no reason.
It sounds like we're saying the same thing, but perhaps ascribing intent differently.
I am by no means defeated. I do take a exception to that. I'm a pragmatist and understand clearly what is being faced. It is absurd to say that I feel like it's the first time I've faced evil. I'm 51 years old and seen plenty of it - and have been a victim of it - real evil - not scary bad stuff.
Acknowledging evil is not the same as being evil. There's a difference between doing wrong and doing evil.
I obey my conscience. I have violated it at times by doing "wrong", but NEVER by doing EVIL.
Evil does not come in shades of grey. However, there is a difference in let's say the evil of killing someone vs. the evil of Jeffry Dahmer.
I'm talking about the MAGNITUDE of the EVIL...not merely individual acts of evil.
I'm sorry if that sounded insulting, but you shouldn't have interpreted it personally. I meant we do evil by obeying authority. Attention is the real currency. And see how much attention is being paid them? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm trying to convey the importance of "abracadabra", which means, I create what I speak. If we spoke almost all the time of what we went, we would create it. I know that sounds "out there" but we haven't tried it because we always have the program gnawing at us saying "that would never happen" and stuff like that. Evil is not that complicated as we have made it, it's kinda dumb, so it uses trickery to fool us and them dumbs us down so it can handle us. It's kind of institutionalized narcissism.
Bottom line we need to be have a clear definition of the meaning of evil and we don't so that causes confusion and conflict. Thus as I mentioned, the language is intended to do this to us.
What is needed first off is agreement on definitions. This is how the English language has been debauched, it is a spell-binding language. It as designed to create evil. What is your definition of evil? Mine is - what goes against life, imbalance. Imbalance is one of the causes of evil as it creates toxicity. As in we only go by man's laws, education, perspectives, etc. And this causes too much of one side to the other. The other side - women's perspectives, however, have been ignored thus we have intense toxicity in everything we do - because of our lopsided perspectives. A rebalance is in order to get the spirit level right.
It would be good if you could explain what part you found pedantic and why so I may have a clear idea of what you are talking about. Unless I missed something, that point is not clear to me yet. Where did I mention you are defeated? You seem to have implicated that I said this of you?
Also, there's that damned Real World. I agree that "good" and "evil" exist, as does morality, custom, law, and so forth. But many people never grasp, and indeed resist mightily, one simple truth: Those are entirely human creations, pure abstractions, without any referent in the physical world. And that still holds true even if you have religious views and believe that those values are ordained by a God. And sometimes, even holy books support that view. For example, Jesus said that God sends rain on the good and evil. In context, that meant that God did not choose upon whom the rains fall. In that part of the world, rain was "good" because it brought life, it watered the crops. Conversely, the same argument holds if one considers the victim of a hurricane or a flood. Only the sickest moralist would claim that it's God punishing the wicked. If you examined resumes, I think you'd find a closer explanation is that Nature is merely following her natural laws impartially, without regard to a person's moral status.
None of this is to deny that morals have value. But they only have value to the extent that they are good models of how the real world operates. Nor do I deny that we can work for good or evil. But in all, or nearly all cases, that mean's we oppose other humans (who hold different values), not the unaccountable forces of nature.
I love your answer. You are absolutely spot on. And anyone who equates misfortune with a creator, has lost the plot. So much of what we believe is unconscious, it's "under the radar" and guess what - that's the only place it can get a foothold. Put it out into the conscious and it dissolves, it runs for cover, it cannot thrive in the open. Censorship is its insurance and thus we must hold censorship in contempt and not exercise it ourselves. Free speech is our ONLY safeguard, against tyrants and despots and they are all around us, they are not just those we see on our screens. They are our neighborhood cop, government worker, supermarket staff ordering people to obstruct their oxygen intake. Things that people believe have escalated so bizarrely that now that speaking sanely is a rare thing. Mass psychosis is the epidemic. If it's popular belief, then it's propaganda is most likely behind it. Nature gives us everything we need to do anything we want, even bad things. It's up to us to withdraw from this prison. The doors are not locked yet, but sure is close. Morals/ethics - these are things we CAN determine but have left to "custom" regardless of them making any sense today.
I agree with your sentiment, but there's a large blockade to getting there - and it's called EVIL.
You can't skirt evil. It has to be beat back, and beat back until it has no soil to purchase roots.
That's where we're at. Getting out of the mousetrap requires facing down EVIL. It sucks.
We are the ones who carry out evil. Obeying is the evil. And everybody believes in it. Evil is here because we live in a free will universe. It's up to each individual to choose correctly. Evil is done by the doctors and nurses, by the mothers and fathers that put the mask on their children and jab them without finding out what is in those things. Totally give up their thinking abilities to authority. And there are so many of them that it endangers others who want to walk freely upon this earth which is for everyone not just people who think the most money gets the resources. Our entire mindset is totally out of whack. I think I know the reason but it gets people angry. The people have the power but they give it away, on a platter.
denise - I've always enjoyed reading your comments, but this seems a bit pedantic...for no reason.
It sounds like we're saying the same thing, but perhaps ascribing intent differently.
I am by no means defeated. I do take a exception to that. I'm a pragmatist and understand clearly what is being faced. It is absurd to say that I feel like it's the first time I've faced evil. I'm 51 years old and seen plenty of it - and have been a victim of it - real evil - not scary bad stuff.
Acknowledging evil is not the same as being evil. There's a difference between doing wrong and doing evil.
I obey my conscience. I have violated it at times by doing "wrong", but NEVER by doing EVIL.
Evil does not come in shades of grey. However, there is a difference in let's say the evil of killing someone vs. the evil of Jeffry Dahmer.
I'm talking about the MAGNITUDE of the EVIL...not merely individual acts of evil.
I'm sorry if that sounded insulting, but you shouldn't have interpreted it personally. I meant we do evil by obeying authority. Attention is the real currency. And see how much attention is being paid them? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm trying to convey the importance of "abracadabra", which means, I create what I speak. If we spoke almost all the time of what we went, we would create it. I know that sounds "out there" but we haven't tried it because we always have the program gnawing at us saying "that would never happen" and stuff like that. Evil is not that complicated as we have made it, it's kinda dumb, so it uses trickery to fool us and them dumbs us down so it can handle us. It's kind of institutionalized narcissism.
That checks out for me!...;)
Bottom line we need to be have a clear definition of the meaning of evil and we don't so that causes confusion and conflict. Thus as I mentioned, the language is intended to do this to us.
What is needed first off is agreement on definitions. This is how the English language has been debauched, it is a spell-binding language. It as designed to create evil. What is your definition of evil? Mine is - what goes against life, imbalance. Imbalance is one of the causes of evil as it creates toxicity. As in we only go by man's laws, education, perspectives, etc. And this causes too much of one side to the other. The other side - women's perspectives, however, have been ignored thus we have intense toxicity in everything we do - because of our lopsided perspectives. A rebalance is in order to get the spirit level right.
It would be good if you could explain what part you found pedantic and why so I may have a clear idea of what you are talking about. Unless I missed something, that point is not clear to me yet. Where did I mention you are defeated? You seem to have implicated that I said this of you?
Hell yes! 👏
Also, there's that damned Real World. I agree that "good" and "evil" exist, as does morality, custom, law, and so forth. But many people never grasp, and indeed resist mightily, one simple truth: Those are entirely human creations, pure abstractions, without any referent in the physical world. And that still holds true even if you have religious views and believe that those values are ordained by a God. And sometimes, even holy books support that view. For example, Jesus said that God sends rain on the good and evil. In context, that meant that God did not choose upon whom the rains fall. In that part of the world, rain was "good" because it brought life, it watered the crops. Conversely, the same argument holds if one considers the victim of a hurricane or a flood. Only the sickest moralist would claim that it's God punishing the wicked. If you examined resumes, I think you'd find a closer explanation is that Nature is merely following her natural laws impartially, without regard to a person's moral status.
None of this is to deny that morals have value. But they only have value to the extent that they are good models of how the real world operates. Nor do I deny that we can work for good or evil. But in all, or nearly all cases, that mean's we oppose other humans (who hold different values), not the unaccountable forces of nature.
I love your answer. You are absolutely spot on. And anyone who equates misfortune with a creator, has lost the plot. So much of what we believe is unconscious, it's "under the radar" and guess what - that's the only place it can get a foothold. Put it out into the conscious and it dissolves, it runs for cover, it cannot thrive in the open. Censorship is its insurance and thus we must hold censorship in contempt and not exercise it ourselves. Free speech is our ONLY safeguard, against tyrants and despots and they are all around us, they are not just those we see on our screens. They are our neighborhood cop, government worker, supermarket staff ordering people to obstruct their oxygen intake. Things that people believe have escalated so bizarrely that now that speaking sanely is a rare thing. Mass psychosis is the epidemic. If it's popular belief, then it's propaganda is most likely behind it. Nature gives us everything we need to do anything we want, even bad things. It's up to us to withdraw from this prison. The doors are not locked yet, but sure is close. Morals/ethics - these are things we CAN determine but have left to "custom" regardless of them making any sense today.
You're just being contrarian. I'll answer this when I get done driving