The churches got a ton of CARES cash to shut down, and it was a rare congregation who stood against the tyranny (like our own Calvary Chapel up here in San Jose). Kevin Jenkins has outlined that they especially targeted black ministers, knowing that their flocks would be more naturally skeptical.
Yeah I guess all the Christians were waiting for "The Big One", as they muzzled their kids and shipped them off to school, while they got to stay home maskless.
Did any of these so called Christian parents think of their first responsibility: To protect their children!
Did The Church think about the least amongst us? For surely they will pay the biggest price.
We had a guest pastor at our, uh, freedom church, who seriously thought that Covid was a rapture-like event, so he and his family had followed the rules here in SF for their particular sect. When I told him that no "infectious" disease will ever take out enough people to meet that bar (and that Covid had an IFR around 0.1%), he was surprised, but I said that it seemed like enough willing Christians injected a potentially dangerous product into their arms that might end up kicking his numbers up to meet his threshold.
Loving and forgiving evil doers ,means more evil as far as the eye can see .We already have that situation with the shot brewers .No matter how much harm they do they can't be sued .Murder for them is without consequences .No I cant love murderers and if some feel murder is lovely they are in the camp of hell .I'm not a saint, I'm a simple human and I leave the loving of the evil doers to saints with few morals .My wife often watches T.V. catholic mass and there were priests around the altar masked up like bank robbers .disgusting .
Yes it seems the most evil people go into politics with the looks to match .In B.C. Canada is a female health minister.She can talk sooo sweat like a kindergarten mommy to save our life . But her actions are that of a beast
My wife used to go to a catholic mass every Sunday And often I came along with her .When the virus terror started there where suddenly papers to fill out by the door .The paper asked for personal info and if the shots where taken or not .To me that was spying on church goers .I believe if there was anyone of the church goers sick with the fake virus ,someone from the Gov.may come to our door to quarantine us because of the covid tracing operation .Maybe quarantine the whole apartment we live in .I told my wife no more going to any church because of the danger we expose our self to . She agreed and now she is only watching mass on T.V.
Yes, they all thought services via zoom was enough. Disgusting. The whole thing made me so angry and bewildered--how could so many people let their FEAR, an inability to put it all in God's hands, and their lack of DISCERNMENT rule them--and in so doing, harm others?
Yes Michele. My mother felt so hollowed out and forsaken. Incredible shame and repudiation is heaped on that church. Dereliction of their duties, common decency and basic Christian principles are just plain evil. I will never forgive them.
Good point. Not everyone has that ability or even desire--Zoom in my opinion (I had to teach with it at a college until I quit over masking/testing) is an evil in itself; I have seen how it creates worse outcomes than NOT using it. I also found it weird that so many people who claimed to be 'anti China/America first' or "tik-tok is a weapon" somehow were just fine with using Zoom, which even Nancy Pelosi called "a Chinese entity."
Sorry for your mom's experience, tho so many of us, I think, were taken aback at how many people we had previously considered to have common sense, common zest for living, common decency, common spiritual principles, only to find out they were completely manipulable by the media, completely desperate to be directed to a false safety, and--so frustrating--completely unwilling to do their own investigating. Just a complete--I was gonna say delegation but really it is--dereliction of kindness, curiosity, and faith.
We are so lucky, however, to have the perspective that we do.
Why vaxxing and masking in church ? Is holy water and holy smoke not enough ?I write down all my sins ,so I don't forget next time I go to confession .Last time I was confessing so long the priest had to stop me ,because I was taking op most of the Sunday .Next time I tell him I was bad and I'M done.
Totally agree, Ryan. Im not religious but have always had respect for those who are. In the earliest, darkest days of lockdown & manufactured isolation, all I could think was if ever there was a time when people (even people like me) needed companionship, community, comfort, communion, HOPE, this was it. Even for me, I have heard God knows the number of our days so there is no real mitigation - when you gotta go, you gotta go whether it’s WuFlu or anything else - & then isn’t heaven the ultimate reward & so why would anyone be afraid???
Not to mention churches should’ve bucked all of it because God doesn’t follow edicts from the “State”.
And then once the savior “vaccine” came, people were denied entry to pray & worship if unvax’d. It was one of the very most astounding & demoralizing things I ever saw the whole time, & there were a LOT.
I have to add Doctors to that, if they had stood up w/the Churches we wouldn't be in this mess. They took the OATH of do no harm. Lots of blame to go around, but those two entities failed us horribly.
if the masses of general population would have stood up and been non compliant it would have ended over night. too many watch tv and no longer capable of critical thinking and living in fear. no way to live. we knew from the beginning it was a shamdemic. just look at the players. rockefeller's 2010 scenarios for the future - lock step was written decades ago, event 201 with gil bates, wef, john hopkins, etc. all was available early on for those with eyes to see. 2 Thessalonians…10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11 For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe a lie.
Agree w/that too. Much blame and hindsight to go around, the real question is will we fight against their next scheme? I often feel it is taking way too long for people to wake up about anything.
Winning is not possible if disunited .Throughout history the winners had strong leaders ,pulling together .Scattered with no direction or leader ,makes winning a hopeless dream .
Success and winning would only be possible if church and doctors and nurses would be united .If all D.Rs and nurses would have quit all on the same day ,winning the next day was a done deal .Sheep that most of us are need a strong and powerful shepherd to follow .
So what does that tell us about church going .? Remember faith is something for witch there is no evidence . Facts need no faith .I believe when I die the atoms I'M made of go back to the universe ,from where they came from . I would be very happy if there was more than that ,when I die but that must wait till it happens it will be very soon .
There has emerged 2kinds of Christian, 2 kinds of everyone, especially those holding oaths to uphold what is fair, right and good in this world.
Now you know who your real friends are. They are among the few people of principle, of courage, of unwavering commitment to the good.
Disappointment indeed. We can find forgiveness for so many who fell to the communist psyop we have barely survived with our minds intact. Open and critically-minded sufficient to recognize and resist lies Big and small.
And parochial school failed to teach the sneaky look of evil to all
of us as kids. Mom took care of that. Quietly, authoritatively and firmly without even trying.
:) You are not wrong. There are some of us who did NOT wear masks, nor peddle fear, bathe in hand sanitizer, social distance, or disown relatives…we DID walk, talk and faced off the aggressively misinformed citizens of fear. With open faces we stood our ground in stores and businesses. Some screamed us out. We will never return.
I agree with all of you here who are EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED in the weak-kneed, white-knuckled church leaders who are apparently more concerned about their paychecks and praise of men, than fulfilling their calling. (If they are indeed called) They cannot discern the signs of the times; but yet preach the return of Jesus. I fear they will miss Him entirely.
Yes. My mother's 'Christian' friends, not knowing that her children were all unjabbed, would continuously talk about how "all the antivaxers should just die." My mother finally told them off and they have since been quiet on the subject.
Yeah we literally left KC in April of 20 to seek refuge in Florida.
My wife and I had a little reservation that we might be overreacting. But, we could "feel" evil and we decided it was best to do it now then to have our kids surrounded in a spirit of fear.
Dan, I live in SENM & the culture was COMPLETELY different; sheriffs in Chaves, Lea, Eddy, Otero & Lincoln counties refused to enforce the mask & other mandates & lots of businesses didn’t either. Some people went all in, but I’d say majority everywhere were mask less, etc. it’s all farming, ranching, oil & gas w/ salt of the earth people here. But I have lots of concern about road whore Wuhan-Grisham having another 4 years now, for sure
Santa Fe a great place to visit, could never live there because of the leftist loons. We think in typical fashion, Wuhan “won” by hook & crook but who knows - the state is mostly deep blue except SENM & even then they gerrymandered so Harrell lost.
Completely understand, Dan. I love to go to SF, sometimes for a long weekend to really shop & dine, sometimes just for a day run to hit the wonderful Farmer’s Market, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods & have lunch. But the plethora of lib-loon bumper stickers & mask-wearing virtue signaling are irritating. In other words, a great place to visit for all of the great shopping & dining but couldn’t ever live there.
We saw DeSantis when he stumped for Ronchetti last year - ROCK STAR - you’re lucky to live under such leadership now. I don’t know that I could do it - born & raised in AZ & NM since so total Southwesterner, I’m not sure I could take the cultural shock of the South, humidity, hurricanes 😅. But very happy to hear you’re happy there!
And yes, our world is changed forever, as are we. Will never, ever forget or forgive. So scared there’s worse to come this year….
Every day we can read and hear about what the ring leaders and master minds of evil are plotting and planing .We the nobodies are the target of their nightmarish dreams .No the worst is not over ,it is more of a beginning .
Thx so much, Dan; we’ll need all the prayers we can get. My husband & I do not want to leave NM but we’ve talked about W. TX if we have to. Originally thought about going back to AZ because we’re both native & still have family. But the “Hobbit” just stole…er “won” the election as governor so she’ll make AZ every bit as bad unless the legislature is Repug to cut off her worst instincts. NM a completely lost cause w/ every branch of government captured by the devil.
Bless you & good luck to you & yours as well. Family - esp NOW - is the very most important thing so you are where you are supposed to be!
PS - look up Neil Oliver’s latest on YouTube. He thinks “they” are really running scared now - like winners of some silly contest where you have a brief time to frantically race the aisles & recklessly fill the shopping cart. I hope he’s right. Del Bigtree also had a great show this week on The Highwire.. These guys sometimes give me hope
Teachers and The Church were the biggest disappointment during covid.
The way The Church behaved filled me with one part sorrow and one part disgust.
There are many Christians who need to do some self reflecting...most of them.
The churches got a ton of CARES cash to shut down, and it was a rare congregation who stood against the tyranny (like our own Calvary Chapel up here in San Jose). Kevin Jenkins has outlined that they especially targeted black ministers, knowing that their flocks would be more naturally skeptical.
Yeah I guess all the Christians were waiting for "The Big One", as they muzzled their kids and shipped them off to school, while they got to stay home maskless.
Did any of these so called Christian parents think of their first responsibility: To protect their children!
Did The Church think about the least amongst us? For surely they will pay the biggest price.
I could go on and on.
We had a guest pastor at our, uh, freedom church, who seriously thought that Covid was a rapture-like event, so he and his family had followed the rules here in SF for their particular sect. When I told him that no "infectious" disease will ever take out enough people to meet that bar (and that Covid had an IFR around 0.1%), he was surprised, but I said that it seemed like enough willing Christians injected a potentially dangerous product into their arms that might end up kicking his numbers up to meet his threshold.
Apparently the rapture was underperforming so they had to bring in the death shots to meet key performance indicators.
Underperforming Rapture Productions
After the rapture where will I get my Doritos?
Wait what? We get dorritos after death.
This really changed how I feel.
'Stale beer and Doritos
Littered all over my chair
Woke me up from the middle of my nap
Just to hear them say
Welcome to the Hotel Coronavirus
Such a lovely place
When you can't see faces
Living it up at the....'
You almost make me wish I didn't take that horse paste when....
choking as i laugh.
Now that's some funny shit!
LOL!
Rapture is nonsense invented1800 years after Bible finished
Don't get me started, John. 😑 It's not like they wrote stuff down daily for the rest of the Bible.
This will be long conversation. Actually not all that long...
Bible is inerrant.
Loving and forgiving evil doers ,means more evil as far as the eye can see .We already have that situation with the shot brewers .No matter how much harm they do they can't be sued .Murder for them is without consequences .No I cant love murderers and if some feel murder is lovely they are in the camp of hell .I'm not a saint, I'm a simple human and I leave the loving of the evil doers to saints with few morals .My wife often watches T.V. catholic mass and there were priests around the altar masked up like bank robbers .disgusting .
I had the honor of meeting and chatting with Kevin Jenkins in May of 2022.
I am blessed to have a pastor that did not cave. He talks about how the shots are killing people every Sunday. I am from NE Ohio.
God bless your pastor.
Please tell him from the bottom of our hearts; thank you for being STRONG!
His Maker is pleased.
Edit:
Pastor not pasture.
I was in the middle of typing a another response about horse face in New Zealand retiring. LOL
That's what I call her too. Makes me want to kick her teeth in.
Yup and if you lived in NZ it was your NEIGH-bors who enforced the tyranny.
Its actually an insult to horses. I adore horses.
Horses are good people! 😉
100%
You mean HorseFace didn't like horse paste??
Yes that woman is horse like the way she looks and the devil is riding her .
Yes it seems the most evil people go into politics with the looks to match .In B.C. Canada is a female health minister.She can talk sooo sweat like a kindergarten mommy to save our life . But her actions are that of a beast
are there any live streaming services? I can not listen to any Pastor that doesn't "see this"
https://m.mixcloud.com/Marcie138/1823-acts-21-and-the-day-following-pastor-jeff-tauring/
I wish you could hear him live. God bless.
Thank You!! ❤️🙏
You are very welcome!
I'm from Texas. Catholic Church near Cincinnati sent us priest all thru this nonsense. Sgg.org
Bishop Daniel Dolan, saint, rip
Something special about ohio
Synagogues also.
I was so disgusted, I left.
Out of all groups.
One would think Jews would say no to experiments . But no. The tax write offs are the Golden Calf.
I know. My wife's side is Jewish. My side is Christian.
Like I said; sorrow and disgust
I think the Big Guy was shaking his head
my Catholic Church didn't shut down
My wife used to go to a catholic mass every Sunday And often I came along with her .When the virus terror started there where suddenly papers to fill out by the door .The paper asked for personal info and if the shots where taken or not .To me that was spying on church goers .I believe if there was anyone of the church goers sick with the fake virus ,someone from the Gov.may come to our door to quarantine us because of the covid tracing operation .Maybe quarantine the whole apartment we live in .I told my wife no more going to any church because of the danger we expose our self to . She agreed and now she is only watching mass on T.V.
If they said Francis was pope (which they almost certainly did)., it wasn't Catholic Church.
If you get a chance, sgg.org might blow your mind
I saw so many, support the current thing, from churches. I also saw lines for getting your jab at churches. Totally disgusting.
My mother's church never once checked on an 83 year old woman, living alone, who has been tithing her entire adult life.
Yes, they all thought services via zoom was enough. Disgusting. The whole thing made me so angry and bewildered--how could so many people let their FEAR, an inability to put it all in God's hands, and their lack of DISCERNMENT rule them--and in so doing, harm others?
Not to mention giving up their God Given Right of Freedom to Worship God if they so choose. It was all disgusting and embarrassing.
Yes Michele. My mother felt so hollowed out and forsaken. Incredible shame and repudiation is heaped on that church. Dereliction of their duties, common decency and basic Christian principles are just plain evil. I will never forgive them.
And, the majority of that church are elderly. How many of them know how to zoom?
My mother certainly can't.
Good point. Not everyone has that ability or even desire--Zoom in my opinion (I had to teach with it at a college until I quit over masking/testing) is an evil in itself; I have seen how it creates worse outcomes than NOT using it. I also found it weird that so many people who claimed to be 'anti China/America first' or "tik-tok is a weapon" somehow were just fine with using Zoom, which even Nancy Pelosi called "a Chinese entity."
Again, let down on so many fronts.
Even the birds and the bees are zooming around ,the Chinese thought of every thing .
Sorry for your mom's experience, tho so many of us, I think, were taken aback at how many people we had previously considered to have common sense, common zest for living, common decency, common spiritual principles, only to find out they were completely manipulable by the media, completely desperate to be directed to a false safety, and--so frustrating--completely unwilling to do their own investigating. Just a complete--I was gonna say delegation but really it is--dereliction of kindness, curiosity, and faith.
We are so lucky, however, to have the perspective that we do.
If Jesus ever came back ,he would be masked shot and boosted before allowed in his church .
They were soooo good at social distancing they couldn't even call her...
Totally.
But, you know, they were saving the world by sitting on their butts.
Why vaxxing and masking in church ? Is holy water and holy smoke not enough ?I write down all my sins ,so I don't forget next time I go to confession .Last time I was confessing so long the priest had to stop me ,because I was taking op most of the Sunday .Next time I tell him I was bad and I'M done.
You assume a lot. Like there was or is a Jesus; that there was or is a God. Your blind faith kills your reason, we are on our own.
Despicable 😢
Totally agree, Ryan. Im not religious but have always had respect for those who are. In the earliest, darkest days of lockdown & manufactured isolation, all I could think was if ever there was a time when people (even people like me) needed companionship, community, comfort, communion, HOPE, this was it. Even for me, I have heard God knows the number of our days so there is no real mitigation - when you gotta go, you gotta go whether it’s WuFlu or anything else - & then isn’t heaven the ultimate reward & so why would anyone be afraid???
Not to mention churches should’ve bucked all of it because God doesn’t follow edicts from the “State”.
And then once the savior “vaccine” came, people were denied entry to pray & worship if unvax’d. It was one of the very most astounding & demoralizing things I ever saw the whole time, & there were a LOT.
Same.
Agree with everything you say.
Even non Christians know this verse as one Jesus's most important messages. Yet they all forgot.
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind"
- 2 Timothy 1:7
That scripture alone covers all the bases for how The Church and Christians should've behaved.
And if they had followed that verse and stood up we wouldn't be in this mess.
I have to add Doctors to that, if they had stood up w/the Churches we wouldn't be in this mess. They took the OATH of do no harm. Lots of blame to go around, but those two entities failed us horribly.
if the masses of general population would have stood up and been non compliant it would have ended over night. too many watch tv and no longer capable of critical thinking and living in fear. no way to live. we knew from the beginning it was a shamdemic. just look at the players. rockefeller's 2010 scenarios for the future - lock step was written decades ago, event 201 with gil bates, wef, john hopkins, etc. all was available early on for those with eyes to see. 2 Thessalonians…10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11 For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe a lie.
If only 10-15% refused to wear masks it would've been unenforceable and we wouldn't have been in this mess.
The masks were the linchpin for everything that followed.
We should never forget that.
Agree w/that too. Much blame and hindsight to go around, the real question is will we fight against their next scheme? I often feel it is taking way too long for people to wake up about anything.
Winning is not possible if disunited .Throughout history the winners had strong leaders ,pulling together .Scattered with no direction or leader ,makes winning a hopeless dream .
I agree, but not everyone is as smart as we are.
For sure
Success and winning would only be possible if church and doctors and nurses would be united .If all D.Rs and nurses would have quit all on the same day ,winning the next day was a done deal .Sheep that most of us are need a strong and powerful shepherd to follow .
Agree wholeheartedly Ryan but w/ profound sorrow that religious leaders of ALL denominations & faiths followed the devil instead, IMHO
Yeah Satan's been rifling through his bucket list pretty quickly with the help of many Christians.
I guess that's one way to get called "home" faster.
Maybe there in the clerical fear!
:)
So what does that tell us about church going .? Remember faith is something for witch there is no evidence . Facts need no faith .I believe when I die the atoms I'M made of go back to the universe ,from where they came from . I would be very happy if there was more than that ,when I die but that must wait till it happens it will be very soon .
Starting with the pope for Catholics.
Well, at least he's making the world safe for pedophiles....
Truth
Down here in Australia I have been totally disgusted with The Teachers Federation and the Department of Education. Still am.
You’re not alone, teachers unions in the States were demonic, Grant
There has emerged 2kinds of Christian, 2 kinds of everyone, especially those holding oaths to uphold what is fair, right and good in this world.
Now you know who your real friends are. They are among the few people of principle, of courage, of unwavering commitment to the good.
Disappointment indeed. We can find forgiveness for so many who fell to the communist psyop we have barely survived with our minds intact. Open and critically-minded sufficient to recognize and resist lies Big and small.
And parochial school failed to teach the sneaky look of evil to all
of us as kids. Mom took care of that. Quietly, authoritatively and firmly without even trying.
I have met VERY few, if any, "Christians" that actually followed the Bible's teachings. They all need "some self reflecting."
:) You are not wrong. There are some of us who did NOT wear masks, nor peddle fear, bathe in hand sanitizer, social distance, or disown relatives…we DID walk, talk and faced off the aggressively misinformed citizens of fear. With open faces we stood our ground in stores and businesses. Some screamed us out. We will never return.
I agree with all of you here who are EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED in the weak-kneed, white-knuckled church leaders who are apparently more concerned about their paychecks and praise of men, than fulfilling their calling. (If they are indeed called) They cannot discern the signs of the times; but yet preach the return of Jesus. I fear they will miss Him entirely.
Yes. My mother's 'Christian' friends, not knowing that her children were all unjabbed, would continuously talk about how "all the antivaxers should just die." My mother finally told them off and they have since been quiet on the subject.
Yeah we literally left KC in April of 20 to seek refuge in Florida.
My wife and I had a little reservation that we might be overreacting. But, we could "feel" evil and we decided it was best to do it now then to have our kids surrounded in a spirit of fear.
Best decision of our lives.
Dan, I live in SENM & the culture was COMPLETELY different; sheriffs in Chaves, Lea, Eddy, Otero & Lincoln counties refused to enforce the mask & other mandates & lots of businesses didn’t either. Some people went all in, but I’d say majority everywhere were mask less, etc. it’s all farming, ranching, oil & gas w/ salt of the earth people here. But I have lots of concern about road whore Wuhan-Grisham having another 4 years now, for sure
Santa Fe a great place to visit, could never live there because of the leftist loons. We think in typical fashion, Wuhan “won” by hook & crook but who knows - the state is mostly deep blue except SENM & even then they gerrymandered so Harrell lost.
If you don’t mind my asking, where did you go?
Completely understand, Dan. I love to go to SF, sometimes for a long weekend to really shop & dine, sometimes just for a day run to hit the wonderful Farmer’s Market, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods & have lunch. But the plethora of lib-loon bumper stickers & mask-wearing virtue signaling are irritating. In other words, a great place to visit for all of the great shopping & dining but couldn’t ever live there.
We saw DeSantis when he stumped for Ronchetti last year - ROCK STAR - you’re lucky to live under such leadership now. I don’t know that I could do it - born & raised in AZ & NM since so total Southwesterner, I’m not sure I could take the cultural shock of the South, humidity, hurricanes 😅. But very happy to hear you’re happy there!
And yes, our world is changed forever, as are we. Will never, ever forget or forgive. So scared there’s worse to come this year….
*Stumped for Ronchetti in Carlsbad
Every day we can read and hear about what the ring leaders and master minds of evil are plotting and planing .We the nobodies are the target of their nightmarish dreams .No the worst is not over ,it is more of a beginning .
Thx so much, Dan; we’ll need all the prayers we can get. My husband & I do not want to leave NM but we’ve talked about W. TX if we have to. Originally thought about going back to AZ because we’re both native & still have family. But the “Hobbit” just stole…er “won” the election as governor so she’ll make AZ every bit as bad unless the legislature is Repug to cut off her worst instincts. NM a completely lost cause w/ every branch of government captured by the devil.
Bless you & good luck to you & yours as well. Family - esp NOW - is the very most important thing so you are where you are supposed to be!
PS - look up Neil Oliver’s latest on YouTube. He thinks “they” are really running scared now - like winners of some silly contest where you have a brief time to frantically race the aisles & recklessly fill the shopping cart. I hope he’s right. Del Bigtree also had a great show this week on The Highwire.. These guys sometimes give me hope