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Igor Chudov's avatar

Dear Readers: I forgot about the top-most point that produces a reading of 22,000 titers. So the difference between the lowest and the highest is not 23 times, but instead over 70 times!

The article was correct but now it states an even stronger point -- the difference between the lowest and highest titer is over 70 times.

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Anon38901932047's avatar

on the subject of antibodies, I read somewhere that, as a general rule, it's a really good thing that serum antibody levels decline after one defeats an infection. and that's because antibodies thicken the blood.

if a sequence of defeated infections caused a long term monotonic accumulation of antibodies, our blood would become a thick soup and we'd die. on the contrary, our bodies evolved a mechanism to bring down antibody levels after an infection, not keep them elevated perpetually.

even if these Covid jab specific antibodies did result in lowered hospitalization for Covid, repeating these jabs and their associated increase in serum antibodies is probably not a long term strategy for overall health. and yet they keep pushing the boosters.

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steve's avatar

i wonder if this has anything to do with the strange clots found in the blood of those that have died.

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Tiffany B's avatar

Not really...those are hypothosized to be unatural synthetic rope or string clots caused by the spike protein from the mrna jabs, especially the boosters.

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Lisa's avatar

That would also explain the clot formation : thickening the blood constantly

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Ellen's avatar

Quick note, Dr Meryl Nass says there were more than eight mice. Of course not that that matters, that's the point, but don't want to feed the "fack-checkers" with anything real. (And maybe there were various tiny trials of a few mice that added up ... "rigorous" science, as they say)

51:25 -- The CDC had an emergency meeting of its advisory committee that didn't have the three wk notice in federal register that usually occurs. They voted 13-1 in favor of rolling out the new Boosters even tho the only data they were presented w on these new boosters were from mice.

Interviewer - "and there's eight mice as I understand?"

Dr Meryl Nass - "No, I didnt see eight mice, I think there are a lot more than eight mice. But it doesn't matter how many mice - because mice do not reflect what happens to humans when you give them a vaccine.

Just abt any species is going to mount antibodies if you inject them w something, but that doesnt mean there going to have a good immune response to the disease doesn't mean humans are going to have a good immune response to the disease when they're injected w the same thing."

- "Theres no human trials?"

Dr Nass - "They're just staring human trials now, and why would you even do a human trial when you're already injecting millions of people? Moderna is starting a 512 person trial .. the public is the trial."

https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220904/14871071/LIVESTREAM-Sunday-12-30pm-EST-The-Globalists.htm

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Lisa's avatar

Dear Igor : thank you for a great explanation. If you happen to see this, how do you read the numbers you posted on the chart? Left side doesn’t show the scale so I’m a bit lost - thank you

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David's avatar

Sorry if this was asked elsewhere in reply (TLDR 379 comments) does the chart at top suggest that the monovalent shot for BA.4/5 is actually useful?

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Conway Judge's avatar

Eight blind mice, eight blind mice

See how they run, see how they run

They all ran after the mRNA shot

The doctor opened them up and found a clot

Did you ever see such a sight in your life as eight dead mice?

Eight dead mice, eight dead mice

See how they died, see how they died

They all showed damage to organ cells

Cancerous lesions and warning bells.

Did you ever see such a sight in your life as eight dead mice?

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MJH's avatar

An additional verse, if I may:

Eight jabbed mice, eight jabbed mice

What have we done? What have we done?

Antibody titers all over the place

A meaningless measure in any case

How will this effect the human race, and eight jabbed mice?

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Conway Judge's avatar

Well done! I couldn't have done it better.

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sunsandwind's avatar

Love it! Maybe the catchy tune will get people thinking again. Music has been used forever to spread a message.

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Conway Judge's avatar

I wish we had more artists to back us with great murals on walls, comedians, even street performers like in the Shakespearean age. Sonnets and singers.

Topless protests... I mean if you want to get widespread attention why not pull out the big guns.

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AllieMarie777's avatar

Bob Moran - look him up on twitter and IG

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Conway Judge's avatar

How have I not seen this before???

That is excellent.

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brideofMoshiach's avatar

He is hilarious. As he is going to city councils, he is excellently prepared and knows exactly the crazy politics they are representing. He is just mirroring their craziness. He is a really smart guy, who started off seriously with politicians but got attention at all - then he switched.

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Bandit's avatar

😏

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Duchess's avatar

Do more verses! I think I've got it memorized...

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Conway Judge's avatar

Just for you.

Eight spliced mice, eight spliced mice.

Report how they died, report how they died.

They all were humanely slaughtered with a squeeze and a choke.

So no abnormal findings was what the doctor wrote.

Did you ever see such a sight in your life as eight very dead mice?

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Duchess's avatar

Love it.

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elsterbirb's avatar

OMG this is sooo good. I will have to think about more rhymes you could add!

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cm27874's avatar

Reminds me of a book we read to our children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI-2b9pR2MA

Knowing in part may make a fine tale,

but wisdom comes from seeing the whole.

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ㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ's avatar

👏👏Brilliant!!!!!!!

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Renee Marie's avatar

GOOD JOB!!!! 👍👏

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Nabeela's avatar

That is soooo good, thankyou

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Terry's avatar

Nice song Conway. Did they really die? I don't see any comment above from Igor about that. If they died from the vax, can you please provide supporting link(s)?

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B. Orpington's avatar

I've sequentially measured the ab titers in mice in response to experimental vaccines, you do not need to kill them. They probably kept them alive unless otherwise stated.

Balb/c mice are notorious for producing high antibody levels, they get results -hahaha. The fact that they couldn't get consistently high values with balb/cs is concerning. Also telling that they didn't use c57bl/6

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Very interesting

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Duchess's avatar

The6 killed most of 5he lab animals so any longer term effects would not show up.....

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Dr Linda's avatar

That’s my thought as well. They are in unaccountable for consequences. Ignorance is bliss

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freelearner's avatar

Can we FOIA what happened to the mice, if they don't specify this anywhere?

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B. Orpington's avatar

If they didn't submit to FDA, no. And may be "trade secret" even if they did. Most likely they did/will do some bleeds at other time points and freeze the serum in case they want to see how quickly the neutralizing abs fell.

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baker charlie's avatar

OT, but I like your name. I have 3 buffs, great birds.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

As a second thought, I wanted to ask you what do you think about this situation. How concerning are these results? Any good ideas, without compromising your privacy?

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B. Orpington's avatar

Well, call me old fashioned but I wouldn't put too much stock either way in a balb/c mouse study with n=8, (n=8, N=24? There's at least 24 mice there, 8 per vaccine)(is that really all they did??). Using balb/c instead of outbred or repeating with at least one more strain is really, basic. A variable neutralizing titer response to a bivalent vaccine makes sense. I'd expect more variability in outbred humans. I wish I could tell you what that means, but being old fashioned I don't think neutralizing titers in mice tells us much about protection in humans when we don't have any correlate(s) of protection.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Thanks! Note that the response to the Wuhan portion of the bivalent vaccine was NOT variable (in fact it was so consistent that it looks odd). What was too variable is the response to the Ba5 part of the bivalent shot

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B. Orpington's avatar

I mean booster.

I don't know the experimental details-i think it says under the blue text in your image, but I assume they gave a primary series (2-3 shots) with the Wuhan /original spike, and then a booster with the original, omi, or bivalent vaccine. That means the mice have been exposed to Wuhan spike a lot, and are pretty consistent in make high levels of neutralizing abs against it. When boosted with one of the 3 boosters, they want to see if they can get neutralizing titers against the new strains. So, either ab previously developed that cross react, or newly developed ones. Pushing the original ab repertoire is bound to variable, as even with inbred mice the exact abs produced will be different. Based on that figure, the omicron monovalent looks best/has higher ab against more pseudoviruses. The cynic in me thinks they had a lot of original spike vaccine in the pipeline and to save money/time they used it to cut the omicron shot and make their Whitehouse-encouraged target date. That is only based on the chart above.

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Ray's avatar

i know im in a bubble group and not seeing the wider picture but who at this point is still wanting shots of their phamashite™?

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Sheree's avatar

My 81-yo mom is one. She has had four shots thus far (the last two boosters could have killed her...she had high temps and could barely walk due to neuropathy afterwards...it did subside, thankfully). All of her bridge club ladies have, too, and now they are getting Covid, having "brain fog," and getting shingles. Her thought process is that she can "tell the vaccine effectiveness is waning" by how she feels. She says she can tell she needs another boost. I told her she sounds like a junkie.

It's all so bizarre and there is nothing I can do about it.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

You know, I definitely feel for you, but if I may say your mom is 81 years old. She will not bear more children, work, etc. She is a valuable member of the society and is your beloved mom, but at this point we collectively do not depend on her other than her wisdom and such.

(I have a mom of a slightly younger age but otherwise similar)

But what they did with young people, who we need to replenish the society with children, work, serve in the military etc, is quite terrifying.

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Jeff C's avatar

It's even worse than that Igor. The majority of those demanding kids and young adults get the shots were seniors (or over 50 at least)! People who were in the six or seventh decade and had lived full lives, were cowering in fear, and demanded those with their entire lives ahead of them take a barely-tested, experimental medication.

I find it hard to recall such widespread arrogant selfishness among those in their "golden years" at any point in my lifetime (and I've got plenty of gray hair myself). The boomer generation did not age well.

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Kelliann's avatar

Bullcrap. From my experience, as an old gen x (btw I know many boomers who are nothing like your description), the upper middle class, mid thirties Moms were pushing jabs on their kids.

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Jeff C's avatar

We'll your experience certainly invalidates anything I've observed in my life along with countless others (many of which have commented here).

Pack it up folks, Kelliann has spoken, it's all bullcrap. Zero refuting evidence needed just her opinionated rebuttal.

BTW, I never said it was *only old folks*, sure there are plenty of lunatic middle aged women driving this hysteria. My point was that we have never seen seniors as a group act this arrogant and selfish toward children and young adults in recent memory. If you thought about what I actually wrote rather than lash out emotionally it might make sense.

Really tired of the strawman responses from people who get their ox gored for whatever reason.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I am an older Boomer as well. My golden years are not spent lolling in past glories. I am proactive, I speak out, I fight. I figure being older, I don’t have as much to lose. So I am willing to risk more. I do not believe I am alone in this. I know there are a number of folks in my age group who read this post doing exactly the same. When I read this stuff it seems to me we are participating in the behaviors that most of us find so reprehensible. It’s human I get it. But I am slightly disappointed because I hold us to a higher standard. O well

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Kelliann's avatar

Lol

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HardeeHo's avatar

At 83 and after two, no more. The data arrived and I can read. I'll bet on simple sanitation to keep me and if it doesn't maybe my clock expires.

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brideofMoshiach's avatar

Honestly, Igor, I cannot agree. It does not matter at all what age group.

There was an undercover video from a nursing home when the vaccine rollout began in Dec. 2020. The way these defenceless people were treated, with the "doctors"? (not even sure) clad in these full-cover plastic condoms - it was beyond bearable.

I think it is even worse with the vulnerable, the old who rely on doctors and others taking taking care of them.

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Jon Grah's avatar

Hmmm. Elders have a place in society. If what you say was really true, then why was the aging Congress offered exemptions from taking "the shot"?

add: if these elders fulfilled their end of the social contract, why can't the gov't? Capitalism's end game is to quietly RENEGE by declaring elders and those who cannot contribute something "useful" in terms of productivity (from a ruling capitalists perspective) as useless to society and therefore need to be "neutralized" to save on costs. But if you openly renege, there could be a revolt...or a loss of confidence in the system from younger citizens. So you use a silent [bio]weapon and get people to euthanize themselves.

And then this brand of capitalism can continue to champion itself as being this wonder of an economic system. Nothing to see here.

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Kelliann's avatar

💖

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Bird's avatar

And who have time to develop longterm degenerative pathologies as a result.

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Dosha's avatar

I'm so sorry to read of your mom and her friends. These predators are very good at convincing people that they're on the side of health. When I was in the hospital late last year overnight one of the nurses, who was the sweetest person, almost broke into tears because I had not and would not get the covid shot. She believed I would end up dying by resisting. I thanked her for her concern and felt very sad for her.

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

You should send her a card at the hospital thanking her for the care and letting her know you're still alive!

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Dosha's avatar

That's a great idea. Thank you for that suggestion!

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pandelis's avatar

leave her alone. hopefully she will awake up. not much we can do.

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Ray's avatar

my mum is the same, ex nurse and an avid believer, we cant even discuss it, she gets mad

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shibumi's avatar

Almost everyone I know over 55 is vaxxed and will probably get another booster. Their doctors tell them to do it , so they do. Most look at it as a thing to do now, like the yearly flu shot. My BIL is vaxx injured, his wife admits it, yet she has said that if her doctor says to get another booster, she will.

IMHO, it's irrational fear of death. They don't realize... we will all eventually die, but the likelihood is that it won't be from COVID.

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Andrew Dickson's avatar

Stunned mullet syndrome.

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JustANobody's avatar

Maybe they added something to cause just that effect! Easier to control everyone! That's why the hard push and more this fall. They want it in EVERY arm.!

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Dee's avatar

It wouldn't surprise me.

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Janet's avatar

Good grief. She is a junkie. I’m sorry.

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

When the jokes become truth. Painful

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brideofMoshiach's avatar

I am so sorry. Awful. My aunt is a doctor and likewise brainwashed. It is so painful to watch and to only encounter condescension - in the case of my aunt.

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CuiBono?'s avatar

I’m truly sorry. I have some loved ones around me who think this way too. I find peace in prayer, it’s all I can do at this point. I hope you can find peace too🙏🏻♥️

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Dee's avatar

My condolences. If my mother was still alive (passed 8 years ago at age 92), she would have been the same.

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Sheree's avatar

My mom said the first two shots gave her a type of euphoria and she felt great afterwards. She said she could "feel her immune system strengthening." The second two shots didn't give her that euphoria and caused a lot of pain, but she is still excited to get the new one that is coming out soon. So I don't know if they put something in the first two shots to get certain people to willingly take the boosters (she is 81)? Nothing surprises me anymore.

Friday night she told me I should get the shots and I said "over my dead body" and she replied, "well, it just might be." Lovely, haha.

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Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

I was in the next room, but listening in on my wife’s weekly zoom call she has with her family. One sister was so proud to say she just had her yearly flu shot and couldn’t wait to get the booster in late Sept or early Oct. Most of the rest of the family (not my wife) crowed their approval and agreements...

It’s hard for me to roll my eyes hard enough these days 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️

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Ray's avatar

i think i could hear you eyerolling from here

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Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

😂😂 I bet you could!

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

I was eye rolling right along with you

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Dosha's avatar

That reminded me of our last FaceTime last year. Hubby asked his daughters/niece and their husbands why they took the shot. Dead silence. Then the niece said in a tiny voice, so I don't die. Needless to say, that was the last FT call with his family. I shouldn't but everytime I think of that call I laugh.

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Dee's avatar

I've been feeling hurt that I've been left out of the Zoom calls (didn't even know they were happening for the longest time; I'm sure it was because I supported the wrong candidate) but hearing your story, I'm relieved I was left out.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Hmm, for me it was worse - getting relatives on the other side to be preachy on the jabs was difficult to manage with some measure of calm.

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AllieMarie777's avatar

Would they change their minds if they knew it was only tested on mice?

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Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

if the TV told them it killed everyone that takes it, but you still need to take it, they’ll line up and get it 🐑🐑🐑

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TMartini67's avatar

Yes...my family certainly would. I cringe even saying that.. 😣

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shibumi's avatar

Maybe. I told a vaxxed and boosted friend about it in a non-threatening way, and she said she was good for now. I think that means she won't get it.

But... she is my friend, and might just be humoring me. IDK.

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

I thought the rah rah stage was over. Still a long slog

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Tomas Hull's avatar

"Wisdom is vindicated by its results..."

Stay strong!

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

The Covidians that is who. They will jump at the chance to get themselves jabbed again and again while thinking that the rest of hoi polloi are insane to miss out. Now, if they were to be the type that live and let live, I would have no problem - after all, it is their choice to get jabbed with that concoction. Unfortunately, they are not happy to test the stuff on themselves - they want everyone else to get it because all the ones that are not jabbed are a mortal danger to them. One word describes them succinctly - NUTS.

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Ray's avatar

whats really remarkable is some of these people are actually quite intelligent, they can dress themselves and everything

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They may be functional but that is not proof of intelligence. This scam has been a real eye opener for me. To see so many people getting conned so easily is difficult to grasp.

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Dosha's avatar

This is very very true. Family in a different blue state, who I believed were intelligent, have shown otherwise by embracing this whole fiasco. Even had one of the baffling sudden deaths occur in their circle but nothing to see here. They are all shot up and boosted up, whenever it's time for a new boost, they're in.

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Alex #DoNotComply's avatar

As prof. Desmet stated, intelligence does not protect you from being susceptible to fraud. Also, yesterday I've learned from this video that "nudge units" carefully crafted their messaging based on early 2020 psychological experiments: https://youtu.be/WKT2IcSaG6M

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Dosha's avatar

Not surprising. The mental manipulation is exquisite.

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Legallady4's avatar

censorship & propaganda kill the mind.

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Nat's avatar

yeah, but it's as if their minds actually CRAVE censorship and propaganda.

you try to set them free, they lock the door and throw away the key. this whole covid nuttery probably gave them a welcome sense of meaning, a higher purpose, belonging to something 'higher' than themselves and all that. transcendence via covid cultism.

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Porge's avatar

I once heard someone say ,"YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!"

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

It is now proven fact beyond any doubt.

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Porge's avatar

Yup!

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

I know infectious disease specialists in the biggest most famous hospital in Stockholm who believe this shit. Three sons, all jabbed. Because science.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

The only thing they are specialist in is stupidity if they are jabbed or jabbed their kids.

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

This particular doctor was sort of gloating that she got her first shot in January last year. (I’m a doctor too but not working clinically.) And was laughing with relief that her husband (healthy, mid 40s) had SUCH a bad bout of covid which could, of course, have been much worse had he not been triple jabbed. No one in the household got covid the whole of 2020 when she was working without a vaccine and with the most critical patients. But covid is just so strong! Thank god for the boosties!

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

I know that type of total moron. I have a colleague that took multiple jabs so that he could get a chest badge with "Covid Vaccinated" and wore that to show how "responsible" and "caring" he was. He got Covid at least twice that I know of. What I find very offensive is the Covid jab creed that they recite once they do get Covid "I am grateful for protection offered by the jabs and without them it would have been worse." What protection is that you imbeciles? You got Covid after you got jabbed.

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jan van ruth's avatar

no, not nuts but fascist.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They are nuts to take the jab. However, you are correct they are fascist/bolshevik in their view of the world.

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Andrew Dickson's avatar

COMPLETELY nuts AND fascist IMO. But maybe that's just my fellow Kiwi's..

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

also, DANGEROUS.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Extremely dangerous. They would readily lock up all those that have not taken the jab, force jab them and in some cases worse. It is because of these useful idiots that we ended up with mandates and systematic elimination of individual rights.

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Kelliann's avatar

CULT

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Death cult to be more precise.

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April Smith's avatar

A child in heart failure who can’t get in organ donation list without being UTD, including Covid.

Pure evil to deny a child who isn’t vaccinated.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Pure evil to deny it to anyone that has a matching organ but is not jabbed.

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David Watson's avatar

Evil is always on the rise. Requires constant vigilance, and constant response, to control it.

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Ray's avatar

this is where i feel most strongly on the death penalty for doctors, i'd happily do it myself

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Stacy Otto, fka Eudora's avatar

As I’ve said many times in the past few days as this phenomenon seems finally to be getting some notice on the twitter, it is not just evil, it is Murder.

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

The doctors who are relieved and equal parts baffled and laughing that their partners got three shots, got Covid and got it really bad! Who’d have thunk?! Surely not the senior consultant in infectious diseases in Stockholms most famous hospital! Thank god they got the booster! Imagine what would’ve happened without it!!

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They would have gotten over it faster (especially if they took some horse paste).

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I took it straight out of the TUBE — from

the

feed store! 😂 For real.

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Sharon  Smith's avatar

I am in Kanadistan, would like to figure out the dosage for a 175 pound pony ;)

We can't get IVM, any ideas on this? Had Covid 2 times now. Been scared to take my tube because of all the fear porn.

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Datagal's avatar

You should also be taking zinc, Quercetin, C and D3. See Zelenko prevention protocol.

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baker charlie's avatar

They often have a sort of 'dosage meter' on the plunger. Don't ask me how I know.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Tell your pony she’ll be FINE. Grab a tube and do the math as closely as you can.. Get it into the pony the minute you suspect covid because the virus replicates itself every day. Important to get a hold of it sooner than later.

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Sharon  Smith's avatar

what dosage would a 175lb pony need to recover from Covid. In Kanadastan we are not allowed to have IVM

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JustANobody's avatar

There are videos on exactly this on Odyssey. Just type in.

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JustANobody's avatar

Good for you!!😊

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

I get mine from India, but had the ‘vid in late 2020. Was sick for ONE DAY.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Lucky you. Here in Oz the horse paste police intercepts all shipments because they are so dangerous you see. Wished they were this thorough with fentanyl and other assorted drugs...

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

Good lord, I had no idea. Sympathies to everyone living under that tyranny, though it’s probably just a matter of time. I think Sweden was the positive control in the experiment, they didn’t enforce anything here, no masks, no temp checks, nothing. It’s like 2019 here and no excess mortality before the shots were introduced. That’s how we know this is all bullshit.

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Ray's avatar

high dose liposomal vitamin C works even better but you wont hear doctors mention it because they are trained by pharma, and its not banned anywhere (that i know of)

virus protocol: liquid Liposomal Vit C. take 2.5ml every 2-3h until you feel better then taper off over the next few days every 4 h then 5 etc you will probably feel fine in less than 24h but dont stop suddenly or you may get a rebound.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Sad thing is, if you go over to

the dark side, the PRO😜vaxxers, they’re all saying, “Who the HECK isn’t jabbed by now?!! Some idiot!?”

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Ray's avatar

followed by, ive had covid 3 times now, must be time for my booster!

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

Haha this is an actual comment I’ve heard! And after I’ve laid out how this is destroying peoples immunity, they still are shocked that they’ve had four shots and covid three times! If only someone had warned them! /s

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

And glower darkly at you because you do not wear a mask...

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They would also preach to you that, yeah sure, the jabs got them very sick and are still not over it but that proves that they work you conspiracy theorist you! Then they would compare jab cards to see which one managed the jabs at the earliest possible time.

My favourite - getting the blame for the jabbed ones getting Covid because I refused take to be inoculated for this scam. Their protection would have been better if I would have gone along and got jabbed. Never mind that I was nowhere near them as I not allowed to go anywhere near the uni campus. For them that was proof of how selfish I am.....

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

If something makes me

feel like DIRT and I have to feel

like DIRT 4x and YOU are made to feel like DIRT bc you didn’t want the things that make you feel like DIRT but his things that made him feel like DIRT only work if I also take

the thing that make you feel like DIRT also has ME take the thing that makes me feel like DIRT… I think someone dirty is behind it all.

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Jay's avatar

My 2 doctor children in their early 30s. All the retired people who volunteer at my local art gallery. All the members of my garden club. All the tradesmen who come to my house and refuse to take off their masks.

New Zealand is still heavily masked and fully committed to vaccines. There is little evidence of skepticism in my world.

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Keyjammm's avatar

You are not alone in your skepticism! See the ministry of health recently found another 210,000 people who are poison-free, that makes nearly 440,000 who are not in Vaccinda's 'team'.

I bet she was so peeved with that, her gloating 96% jabbed tally fell to 90% overnight, is that why Bloomfield walked? I don't know I stopped watching the "sustained propaganda" on the idiot-box 2 years ago.....absolute load of tripe.

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Andrew Dickson's avatar

Fellow skeptic Kiwi here so you're not alone bro. Don't ever give in.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Committed is the right the word. I do have a different context that would apply though.

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Rick (from Texas)'s avatar

Skepticism is so underrated in this world! Many need to look at the difference in definition between skepticism, cynicism and faith in regards to science.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

God help them.

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Palamambron's avatar

The group that wants more jabs coincides heavily with the group that never turns off CBS. They go right from Good Morning America to the game shows to the local news to the night shows. Never change the channel. Never turn off the TV.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

No coincidence as far as I am concerned....

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Ray's avatar

i used to have a tv!

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Legallady4's avatar

those who watch cnn & read the ny times

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Ray's avatar

bless their cotton socks, i bet they will miss brian stelters bullshit!

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

and believe what is written/shown....

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CK's avatar

SO MANY PEOPLE! Luckily I convinced my 79 yo mother after the first two and a pretty severe and lasting AE after her second. She lives in a retirement community and the other blue hairs can’t wait for their next lethal injection.

I know quite a few people who all all boosted up too, one with some already pretty serious health issues. He needed to get boosted because he is in poor health he said. Very confusing.

Sadly so many people are asleep. I was on some website reading about Dr. Simone Golds jail or prison sentence for trespassing. The comment section was basically eye AIDS, just a bunch of COVIDians trashing her for being an anti vaxxer. I try to have reasonable conversations with some of the people I know who are really fond of the jabs. I mostly ask questions, Socratic method sort of thing. There really is no way someone could logically justify these shots but I’ve found the cognitive dissonance to be too strong with most people. They are too deep in the matrix...mass formation psychosis.

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uselesseater's avatar

I am seeing the meme of the lizard people at the cocktail party laughing. "And then we gave them a drug we had tested on eight mice."

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Igor Chudov's avatar

ROTFLMAO

can someone make a meme like that?

"And then we gave them a vaccine we had tested on eight mice."

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Possum's avatar

We gave them a vaccine, we gave it to eight mice.

It sure did get them clean! It rid them of their life!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

Yes! Fantastic! And the cartoonist can distribute it to all Substackers free of charge, since s/he is bound to be not only an artist with an awesome sense of humour, but a humanitarian freedom fighter, to boot ~

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

https://imgflip.com/i/6rtdj5

Updated version, probably disappear soon

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

Perfect, and must be protected, somehow. This is genius. Completely factual, and admitted to ~ i.e., rare material.

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Charlotte's avatar

LOL

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Doug's avatar

Another one, maybe for a t-shirt: "Enjoy your Omicron booster. It was tested on 8 mice."

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Charlotte's avatar

And on the back of the shirt- And They Are All Dead...

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Foodie Traveler's avatar

Makes me think of the movie Rat Race, where the rich guys would bet on all sorts of crazy things.

See also Trading Places.

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Cruising Economist's avatar

It is tempting to write off those who still submit to these injections as succumbing to natural selection but there are still people being forced. I have a niece just starting college who is being forced. Those enforcing mandates, particularly on perfectly healthy young people, need to suffer serious criminal consequences. Sooner would be much better.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

No college or job is worth losing your health - once it is gone, no money in the world can get it back. I do agree that accountability is essential to avoid a repeat of this horror.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

As long and she and the likes of her (and her parents, and other parents) agree to that, this will keep rolling full steam ahead to the completely predictable end station: https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/charlbi-deans-32-cause-of-death-unexpected

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Duchess's avatar

Tell her to take a darn sabbatical..give her help..anything but the jab

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

Transfer

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AllieMarie777's avatar

My son had to reapply for his religious exemption for this academic year - he’s a college junior. My daughter is a freshman and her Catholic university is mandating the vaccine and you have to get the exemption request notarized 🤬

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Duchess's avatar

Ridiculous and illogical. Just the evil of middle managers.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Amerika! Theoretically, it's your decision what you want injected into you, no?

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Anja's avatar

What a shame!

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Kat Bro's avatar

Catholic Uni??? WTF!

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Jon Grah's avatar

This word "forced" is being thrown around too arbitrarily..... Is our attachment to money/fame/acceptance that strong that we are willing to take magic potion just to participate?

Even after knowing that 1% via WEF are Resetting the financial system, food table, amd virtuallu every other part of public life?

What employer/school/societal participation is worth your health? Have you (your daughter) considered that this particular school is not worthwhile vs the risks?

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Gavin's avatar

Even at this stage of proceedings, this is extraordinary. Medical experimentation on a global scale unlike anything we've seen in recorded human history. Very very grim.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I agree, this defies imagination

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Cindy Simpson's avatar

Amazing to go back and read papers on why human challenge trials are “unethical,” yet they are doing a massive human challenge trial without informed consent and without liability, and likely for many—mandated participation.

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Mystic William's avatar

If you pitched this three years ago as a B grade Hollywood horror movie with the entire worlds medical industry trying to kill a billion people you would have been laughed out of the room.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They actually have made multiple movies that are similar to what happened. The idiot in charge of UK Health was boasting about getting ideas from a movie called Contagion. I have only seen parts of it but at the end one needed to be jabbed and go through military checkpoints to get around. Sounds familiar doesn't it? The aim of the scum behind this horror was probably the sort of control like in the movie but the bug was not deadly enough, hence the scheme fell apart. Problem is, who knows what they will try next?

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Andreas's avatar

Contagion was like a script for the Plandemonium that we have been living through. Every aspect.

Virtuous CDC. Selfless medical professionals. Lockdowns. No early treatments that worked (but some that were sold as a miracle cure by shysters). Vaccine as the sole path to salvation for society. Life put on hold. Rednecks with guns. Zoonotic emergence (lol - people still believe that while 7 of the past 8 have come out of labs, at least).

They outdid themselves with the predictive programming.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Nope, it was more like a confession. Criminals have a compulsion to confess according to Freud (probably the only sane thing he ever came up with).

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

But we have reached the sorry, sorry state where it no longer defies belief, as it once would have done.

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Alexander Petrenko's avatar

Great graphic at at the end. Says it all. I'm opting out of both the experiment AND the cheese.

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Ashmedai's avatar

To be fair, there is no ethical basis for testing it on people, because we all know it's gonna be approved regardless of the results. So might as well spare killing the 4.72/10K people in the booster trial. Yes anyone who would sign up for a booster trial will get the booster when it's made available so the 4.72 people would die regardless, but at least they would get an extra few months.

Great piece!!

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🤡🐭🐭🐭🪤🙉🙈🙊💉🐑🐑🐑☢️🚫‼️🤑🤮

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ArrCeeCoala's avatar

Actually, yes.

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JC's avatar

Several times this week I have tried to raise the question of the safety of the boosters with people in their 60s and 70s. The reaction I have got back is the look in their eyes of myself being a crazy anti-vaxxer and them quickly making excuses to leave. Or they begin to become hysterical with rage that anyone dares question the jabs, so great is their brain-washing.

The UK begins giving another jab to the retired on the 5th of September. The retired can't wait. They are true believers. The jabs make them feel important.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

We can’t help it; we were raised on MARCUS WELBY, MD, a tv show featuring the most kindly fella, full of wisdom, care, all the medical

knowledge of all the learned men in the world. We were raised that only

the BEST & BRIGHTEST, most caring individuals, the cream of the crop ever became doctors. It was ingrained in us early on. I’m “only 57” but Marcus Welby, MD was the perfect doc, and everybody’s favorite grandpa/uncle, to boot.

The older they are, the more naive to the fact that anyone would ever steer them wrong, least of all, a DOCTOR. This is why my mother in law keeps giving telemarketers her social security number. “No one is out to HARM me nor take my money, are they? They aren’t ROBBERS!” Sweet, trusting, naive souls…

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

HA! I never watched that program but I am 74. My mother did not believe in doctors and as a child I almost died. There must be "a happy medium" some where. I believe that it is called

"having wisdom and understanding."

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Yeah. But what is the explanation for a guy that age walking around now fine after four jabs (maybe more!)? I saw him today wearing a mask which I refuse to do anymore. Early on I shared the truth about the quackcines with the info how to stay well naturally. He rejected it totally and said that "He would laugh at my funeral." Well, today, when he was leaving, I commented, "I am happy that you are still here." He replied the same to me. Yahshua the Messiah said, "Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy." Matthew 5:7

ETERNAL LIF BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!

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Jayna Dinnyes's avatar

Well, maybe not from the Nazi point of view. Those Nazis were always full of surprises! I really sadly wonder what is yet to happen from those deadly quackcines.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

That is so, so sad to hear.

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wjax MD's avatar

Amazing work Igor. It is this kind of curiosity and attention to detail with subsequent clear, concise analysis that makes this the best Covid/vaccine blog on the internet.

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Mckeekitty's avatar

Clown world. Eight dead mice wins instant FDA approval to keep the genocide afoat.

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David Watson's avatar

Genocide implies they care whether you live or die. They don't. It's all about the gravy train -- profits. Follow the money.

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JustANobody's avatar

I am going to throw up!!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Another faked trial for another fake variant. You can never expect anything better for the rest of the FDA's existence. The stupid US government has already paid out billions for this useless crap.

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Alex #DoNotComply's avatar

They are anything but stupid. Stupid we, the taxpayers, that allow them to spend our taxdollars on this bullshit

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Mel's avatar

All these sociopathic scientists at TWiV, etc, (This Week in Virology) which I’ve seen renamed “This Week in Genocide,” always say, “Mice lie and monkeys exaggerate” about their lab animals’ reactions to all sorts of experimentation they inflict upon them. So if “mice lie…” and we KNOW the “vaccine” makers LIE, then who, I ask, is telling the truth? Why, it is us. That’s who. Stay away from these scientific frauds and their bullshit poison darts- if you want to stay alive, that is. Too bad the mice don’t have a say. Necropsy them BEFORE watching their physiological reactions to your lethal and health-destroying injections, not bothering testing them on higher order animals and no testing on humans anymore at all… Really?! It doesn’t seem to matter to these miscreants how many of us are hurt or killed and what, if anything, is proven by antibody titers which we know are not good correlates of protection anyway! Marching morons who may be reading this- please wake up. Thank goodness you people here at Igor’s substack get it. Otherwise, it’d be hard not to run screaming into the night. Thank you, Igor, thank you, my fellow humans. Thank you, everyone who refuses to comply.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

the virologists also exaggerate

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Mel's avatar

Indeed!

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