This is not pleasant to watch unfold in real time. Many injected friends getting sick, a prolonged case of the 'sniffles', repeatedly, and worse (irregular heartbeats, doctor tells them "it's probably hormonal imbalance, totally normal, don't worry"). Even mildly suggesting their immune system might be compromised falls on deaf ears. Many have said to me "I expect to get COVID again soon, it's been a few months since my last case." They've forgotten that it is not normal to be re-infected by any flu-like virus multiple times within a span of 12 months.
*Edit: What a fascinating thread. The fact that these words resonate with so many shows that anecdotal evidence cannot be discounted, and should be 'qualitative data'. Here's to hoping we can deprogram our friends and families and save their souls.
This is what I found missing in Igor's post. He mentioned repeated covid infections but he didn't tie them to immune system damage caused by the covid poison injections. If everyone had simply gotten covid, and no one had taken any covid "vaccines," we'd have had solid herd immunity by now, and the number of excess deaths would be either nonexistent or so small as to be statistically insignificant.
This is a man-made virus that contains bits of HIV and prion like proteins designed to prevent immunity and promote harm. There is more to come in the years ahead. This knowledge was provided by the Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier:
Bill Rice Jr. has been writing about the fact that evidence shows that covid-19 was circulating for quite a few months (in 2019) before the public had any inkling of its existence, but officials have suppressed and ignored the evidence of this. According to what he has found in his investigations, covid had been circulating widely for at least a year by summer 2020, so that's not surprising.
I always tell people there were fewer deaths in the first 36 weeks of this pandemic (no injections), than the next 36 weeks (injection rollout), and even more in the next 36 weeks (booster rollout).
Something about that timeline doesn't sound overly effective - especially as it's only measuring the most severe outcome.
Igor has me convinced of the VAIDS hypothesis. The best proof of a hypothesis is to make predictions and see if they are coming true.
Unfortunately events are proceeding as predicted. HIV/AIDS took an average of five years from original flu like symptoms to the multiple cancers of AIDS. Five years was an average. In three more years, four years from the jabs, the people on the short end of the bell curve will be dying in large numbers. I hope I am wrong.
In the meantime, I will continue to use Vitamin D+K, zinc, quercetin, and try to avoid the boosted people. I don't fear the virus, I fear the shed spikes and mRNA nano lipids.
I have to wonder this myself. I'd like to think many / most will, but I still think there's going to be a significant number who don't. And those survivors (or the families who have lost loved ones) will still sue their asses into bankruptcy. (We can only hope.)
Depends - the old ones will not. Prof. Dolores Cahill gave them a couple of years straight from the beginning; for the younger ones, her estimate was 5 - 10 years. Watching from the sidelines. I have seen one octogenarian dead within 12 months, the other within 18 months after receiving their first poison death shot. Usually, the cause of death is recorded as pneumonia.
I've seen a lot of injury in the last year- 6 blood clot cases, 2 heart attacks, 1 stroke, 2 cancers, 1 SADS. Can't remember when I've seen so many life threatening illnesses so close together.
Of that list, 2 deaths (would have been 3 except paramedics arrived soon enough to revive him). Most were in the 50-70 age bracket.
That's why I wonder if there will be much illness, but maybe not death. Still - a potentially dismal future... Just watching so much of this, even if you are unjabbed, or jabbed but not (yet?) effected.
We know there will. Long term mostly cancers, dementia, degenerative brain disorders. But all those diseases on some serious steroids.
Plus all the unborn children will add to the credit of the depop program. And those born discovered they can't conceive when they grow up. Multi-prong!
While at the pharmacy yesterday, a 40ish, healthy looking guy was there for his booster. I thought "Really?". When the jab house of cards falls, there will be hell to pay.
I go to kroger and every few minutes..the ad over the PA comes on say We have great new boost to keep you safe...its the repeat messaging..like the russian subways before the wall fell ..over the PA look at the beautiful mosaics and chandeliers we give safe amazing life vs the west that is filled with drugs and violence . same stuff of social media..24/7
Nah, it'll just fade away. American idiots lack basic observational and critical thinking skills. And they're all failing at basic arithmetic, they can't add so there'll be no putting two and two together, either.
This is no time to search for peace out of accepting complying leads to death or enslavement and not complying leads to death. For me, I have no interest in being a slave.
I understand what you're saying. What I meant is more of - I know it's unhealthy for me to stay in a state of constant anger. This is what I'm working towards - so I can handle any challenges that are still likely to come.
But no - not particularly interested in being a slave (or an early death).
I listen to a lot of NDE - near-death experience - videos on YouTube. You have to wade through them to sort the wheat from the chaff but I find many of the stories to be very uplifting in terms of soul, raising my vibration and working towards letting go of Earthly anger over the evil being done.
Thank you for using the correct word - MURDERED. It also tells everyone what the Government (almost all governments worldwide) really think of their own people. We're nothing but livestock to them.
I think they've sold us out to the technocrats who plan on taking over. The demagogues are either retirement age or imagine they'll get good appointments as regional managers after the Reset. (PM Trudeau's ambition most likely. Ditto for Gov. Newsom and Gov. Whitmer.)
Bull Dog, that's really bad, bad news. My vaccinated 42 year old son-in-law used to run 11 miles back to back on weekends, I've got him down to 5 miles based on reports like yours.
Bulldog, I know something dark and frankly demonic (imho) has taken over Portland and I am so sorry for everyone living through this nightmare!! Especially there.
However there are people working to reawaken sanity in Salem, Oregon as much of the rest of the State has the "memo." They do know what is happening and are not ready to give up yet.. Think about contacting your elected Legislators and telling them your experience. I know is sounds futile, but it was 5000 volunteers in Florida, all pledged to making 5 phone calls a day, into the Florida Legislature to get the bill passed that stopped Covid Vax discrimination! (And forced masking) Also Legislative Days are coming up, Dec. 7, 8, and 9 in Salem, and Activists and Advocates will be there.
Oregonians For Medical Freedom
Mom's For Liberty
Peoples Rights
Children's Heath Defense, Oregon Chapter.
Together the people have chance. Apart we are finished for sure.
Me and my wife are unjabbed, we got COVID a year ago this month.
She had it like the flu, for me it wasn’t even noticeable, some chills for an hour and one night sweat.
Everyone around us is jabbed and they’re always sick. One of my wife’s coworkers had to go the hospital for a cold. My previous boss is in his 30’s and had to go to the hospital for some cold so innocuous, nobody’s even heard of it, “slapped face syndrome” or some such nonsense.
Everyone at the grocery store is coughing and sniffling, and people started wearing masks again.
Meanwhile my wife brought the crud home (could’ve been COVID again, lol) and I felt next to nothing, and she took some DayQuil and powered through her day like it was nothing.
Exact same situation for my self and daughter! We would never entertain the idea to substitute our immune system with an experimental INJECTION for something that isn’t even dangerous to us.
You are fortunate in likely having a strong immune system - everyone is different of course. My wife and I got Covid in December 2019 - my son unknowingly brought it back from a trip to Finland where some Chinese were in the party (we only assume this). Anyway at the family Christmas gathering we all got sick - some worse than others - but my wife got it real bad.
The doctor had no idea what it was, and sent us to A&E in early January 2020. Antibiotics were all they could think of - my wife spent a month in bed - on and off fevers - sickness - all the symptoms of flu and more. It wasn't the flu I know, although I have never had it - others near me have.
I had a heavy cough which i couldn't shift for a month. Then I became breathless for several weeks, spoke to the doctor (due to lockdown), who advised an inhaler - the local pharmacy were brilliant. NHS couldn't do a lung test because of restrictions. The inhaler helped for two years - I have recently finally had a lung test - damage irreparable - puffers forever - but at least they work. grateful for small mercies.
This is an evil bioweapon compounded by the Vaxx and my ethical medical contacts confirm same. We are in a battle for our survival - I intend to fight to the death - I am 78 - so a bit closer than most!
Before covid my friend was struggling terribly with what was diagnosed as COPD, not severe, but requiring an inhaler. Lots of issues with humidity, allergies etc. He started nebulizing glutathione and started being able to breathe and sleep again. Now he uses some one puff corticosteroid and is fine, mostly. He's 74. The glutathione treatment is working so well you can put it in a search engine and get mainstream medicine evidence. https://drmorsillo.com/nebulized-glutathione-to-help-you-breathe-easier/
Thank you so much Cynthia. The doctor has prescribed a Trimbow inhaler recently and it's working well. I was using Fostair which was also good but this new one is even better. I have little difficulty breathing now. Fortunately I am very healthy with a strong immune system - I have never had flu in my life - so always rejected their jabs. I guess the good Lord is preserving me for his mission which will be revealed in due course or not :-)
Yes. This. Vaxed people I know do not seem to get better. I have been trying to steer them to treatments for the multiple jabs, but they do NOT want to hear it.
Immune system degradation. The worst part is that anyone with a rudimentary understanding of vaccines, Corona viruses, and the immune system, would have, and did, predict this.
Yes, the most recent event I heard of yesterday from a friend (60 years old) is that they coincidentally discovered a tumor in his parotid gland. It's not the only cancer occurence in weird organs that I have heard of in the last year...
I would love to see @Igor Chudov dive into the "totally normal" and "coincidental" irregular heartbeat issue. I bought into the initial Vac propaganda and got it as soon as it became available. Shortly after my 2nd shot, I remember feeling irregular heartbeats as my wife and I were going to sleep. It scared me because my dad died as a result of complication from a heart attack.
I still have school aged kids and I am the main breadwinner in the house. I need to live long enough to finish raising my kids. I kept my worries to myself and slowly got used to the new normal until July '22 when the transient condition finally stopped being transient. My resting heart rate went to ~150 BPM and it stayed there. The last 5 months has resulted in multiple medication changes to control this "normal" condition. I'm pretty sure that this *IS* the new normal for a lot of people. Appointments with a cardiologist (2 different practices) require a minimum wait of 6 weeks. The physicians assistants are booked a month ahead.
My brother, who also got the vac, just went thru a nearly identical experience. His symptoms were worse and they had to do an emergency ablation. My sister, who is very pro vac and has gotten multiple boosters, also has a recently acquired irregular heartbeat problem. Obviously, we probably have a genetic disposition towards this issue. However, we all experienced the issue very soon after vaccination. I have a hard time reconciling this as coincidence. Also, have cardiologists always been in this much of a demand?
I used to be pro every kind of vac, but that changed once my resting heart rate started going to 150 bpm for the slightest of triggers. This condition is very debilitating. @Igor Chudov, I think this supposedly coincidental (heart related) disease could use an in-depth study. One other interesting note, after my wife got her second shot, she immediately went into menopause at 40 years old. Six months after the second shot, she started to have her period again, but she has been struggling with particularly nasty menopause symptoms ever since.
"Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) is an impaction of the autonomic nervous system initiating orthostatic tachycardia. There are numerous triggers for POTS including viruses, vaccines, and an autoimmune basis. This case report is clinically relevant to better understand the pathophysiology behind the messenger RNA (mRNA) coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine and the mechanism that triggers autonomic nervous system dysfunction. Furthermore, the overall goal of this case study is to report a unique side effect associated with the novel mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. A 42-year-old male, with no prior symptoms of sinus tachycardia and presyncope episodes, is diagnosed with POTS secondary to the first dose of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine."
Have you looked at the FLCCC post-v protocol? They have lists of docs treating v injured people on their website. Perhaps there is one near you, or one that will do telehealth with you.
Also go to Stop Mandatory Vaccination website by Larry Cook and look at the protocol of ideas for reducing v injury. His is primarily focused on the routine v’s of childhood, but I bet many of the same things might apply.
And finally, consider looking at naturopathic physician or a well-trained homeopath (doesn’t necessarily have to be a physician.). You can do all these things simultaneously while awaiting a cardiologist visit.
I don’t know if Dr William Davis discusses this sort of thing in his website or forum, but he discusses all other manner of heart stuff. From a functional medicine vantage point. So you may find information on helpful dietary and nutritional supplements there.
I am so sorry to hear this. I believe one would be “reaching” to think that these extreme health changes are coincidental. You must have courage to face this so I wish you more and strength. I wish I had some health advice but I am just a regular person who is seeing what is going on and cannot accept it. Do you know of Dr, Aseem Malhotra? Check him out.
I recommend finding a cardiologist or naturopath that is demonstrably counter mainstream mRNA injection narrative so you can start with bloodwork. You should check if you ar dealing with actual heart disease already. I think you could start with teledoc with someone from FLCCC. I think Pierre Kory is doing teledoc now as well.
I have friends, Nicolas, like you, who were initially convinced that the Vaxx would save their lives - their fear level was extreme. My protestations were cast aside. My advice to boost their immune systems with Vitamin D & C, zinc and green tea was laughed at.
I showed them that my wife and I have never had a sniffle since my Australian doctor advised us in January 2020 and adjusted our lifestyle to accommodate the therapy. They wouldn't listen, until I had lunch in the presence a friend a few months ago, who espoused the same theme - and they asked me to check their Vaxx codes - which I did and they were clear - thank God.
Now they will never have another Vaxx - the health institutions have cut their own throats - liars never prosper - it is a truism that has stood the test of time - and is no less relevant in this age of manic hysteria.
Are they still grateful for the protection that the jabs has given them? Or is it the case that they realise now that the jabs not only fail to protect them but they are actually damaging to their immune system?
Not hidden anymore - it takes blind ignorance to avoid all the evidence, a lot of it provided by the propaganda media I might add. In OZ we are having another wave and in Victoria they are agitating about masking indoors. Given that more 80% of the population has been jabbed to some level, it just proves that the jabs are not just useless, but rather drive the new mutations and the subsequent waves. Oh, and their solution, yep, get more jabs FAST.
But of course. I have seen with those who actually died and their relatives were of the opinion without the jabs, it would have been worse. In short, a fate worse than worse than death. It takes total delusional thinking to come up with that. Very fitting for those who still think the jabs are protecting them - after they had Covid multiple times.
It's doublethink and cognitive dissonance. It is simultaneously holding two or more contradictory concepts in the mind, and believing whichever suits the circumstance to protect the individual from fear, truth, reality, and their worldview(s). Extreme mental gymnastics. I worry for the mental health of the people in this place.
“For nearly three years, the Chinese government deployed its considerable propaganda apparatus to fan fears about Covid to justify large-scale quarantines, frequent mass testing and the tracking of more than a billion people.”
The New York Times said that. The New-F*cking-Propaganda-Apparatus-York-Times.
As the Brits would say, “Are you taking a piss?!”
Look “rich” up in the dictionary, and you’ll find that example under the “informal” entry.
True, Igor—although I’d venture the NYT is more dangerous because most people know the Chinese press is pure propaganda, while an inexplicable number of people still trust the New York Times!
Because 1) fear causes people to suspend their critical thinking and 2) it was mediated through the Western media, and most people don’t consider the original source.
I was raised to be suspicious of ANYTHING coming out of China.
So Western media reported it. But I instantly assumed that (1) either the situation was a nothing-burger, like the first SARS, and China was using it as an excuse for more totalitarianism or (2) it was actually WAYYYY worse than China was reporting and this was their way of trying to “save face,” because China never wants to look bad.
I mean, for people to believe that Western media was being given the straight scoop was naive at best. China lies. Why would they give the truth to Western media?
As of yesterday, China was locked down hard and for the rest of the year, per my friends there. They had to cancel a trip, stock up, and plan to stay home for the holidays.
Just asked again. Today's status ... That is purely lip service for the foreign press. Mandatory isolation when traveling. Long waits for services (recall our lockdown ghost towns). Everybody has to stay in separate lodging! Daily covid testing (and risk getting locked up or dragged away). Cold food (restaurants closed, etc.). Sounds miserable. Better to stay at home.
**Ok, this is officially the FOURTH time I've tried to post this comment and it actually posted this time, but only half of it. Let's see if it'll go this time....
This is what I have been waiting to hear. An actual report from the inside. The crazy ass CCP, the one that WELDED PEOPLE INTO THIER HOMES to such an extent that citizens WERE BURNED ALIVE last week has suddenly flipped? Sorry, boo....carry on. And the fact that the NYT and all the usual suspects (npr, cnbc, reuters, cnn) are reporting the same talking points makes it all the more suspect. I mean, China IS known for its transparency and all...
I'm sure most of the world will takes their dose of propaganda like obedient little peasants. I mean all those reports from all of those trusted news sources...its probably true.
Wikipedia probably lists both sites as dodgy... Which might be regarded as a badge of honor... But the works of Alex Constantine are just republished by both. Both can also be found in his books, published by Feral House. Titles like: "Psychic Dictatorship" and "Virtual Government" etc.. In his prime, he was 20-30 years ahead of our times.
We all must figure out how to become more able to identify and recognize psychopaths - especially among our potential leaders. How many psychopathic canines can we imagine existing in a wolf pack? Probably not many - if any. Those who act against the good of the tribe are summarily expelled.
There are many thousands of press outlets (propaganda proselytizing centers) who can compete with all of these across the planet. They all seem to deserve number one.
Churchill (?) was so right saying we are two peoples separated by a common (but diverging) language. Of course, there are endless examples. "Get pissed" in the UK means to get drunk. In US it means to get angry. In the UK you're mad (insane). In the US it typically means "angry." I've never been to the UK, unless you count a layover at a NATO airport [grin]. I would love to visit but between age, fear of flying and the ever tightening bio-security state, that's unlikely. And besides, where could one obtain an English-English dictionary?
It’s a shame about those barriers: North Americans seem to love visiting the historic “homeland” especially if they are aware of British ancestors.
On diverging language: i have been to the States several times and have several colleagues, who typically seem to appreciate and enjoy my accent and ‘correct’ use of English. By contrast, I remember being rather taken back by a Stateside missionary, living here in U.K. who had a broad southern US accent. Frustrated by her efforts to understand my un-accented, correctly-spoken ‘Queens English’, she complained to her husband: “I can’t understand a word he’s saying”. To which there was no polite answer.
Good to know! I was specifically thinking of a line my husband and I frequently quote from one of our favorite Britcoms, “Are you taking a piss? Are you taking a piss?” I think it’s either “Black Books” or “Fifteen Storeys High,” but it’s been so many years, I can’t remember now! Could also be “IT Crowd,” “Father Ted” … so many possibilities.
Margaret - I didn’t actually watch any of these shows, but have a passing familiarity with ‘Father Ted’ and I’d recommend starting there if you are determined to track down the origin of the particular phrase you cite… It sounds like something Father Ted ☘️ crew might say, intentionally mis-using the popular British slang?
Years ago my ex-girlfriend (we'd parted on civil terms) had returned to collect her belongings and stayed the night (she lived quite far away). Upon departing she, always the gracious one, said "Thank you for having me." [to host, to entertain]. I, always the sardonic one, said "I always enjoyed having you." [you'll have to look that one up!]
I've made similar puns: A female co-worker was once innocently recounting her visit with an interesting man. "He wants to see more of me." Ever the lecher, I quickly replied "Lisa, most men want to see more of you."
My husband and I *thought* we had it figured out. We were thinking it was the catch phrase of Ricky Gervais’s fictional character within the fictional sitcom (“When the Whistle Blows”) within “Extras” (brilliantly meta). We thought maybe the mistake was intentionally idiosyncratic to his silly character … but then we found a clip, and the catch phrase is actually, “Are you havin’ a laugh? Are you havin’ a laugh?”
If the phrase is "are you having a laugh", then it would likely be Extras with Ricky Gervais. After years of getting nowhere, this jobbing actor/screen extra somehow lands a prominent spot on a really crap comedy show - that's the idiot catchphrase he has to say.
Yes, that was exactly the line of thinking we went down, as you likely saw in my comment above. We’re still trying to figure out the source of “Are you takin’ a piss” x 2, though …
Bernard is a good guess, but I’m quite positive it isn’t him as my husband and I know nearly every line of “Black Books” by heart. It really feels more like Ricky Gervais, Sean Lock, or a secondary character.
To everyone who has enjoyed the diversion provided by Margaret’s use of English vernacular, you’ll surely enjoy the following: https://youtu.be/_ldgjn2tdKk
Please let me know if you laugh 😂 out loud, as I did. Quite brilliant and typically of the enjoyment I’ve repeatedly witnessed over many years of North American’s encouraging us Brits!
Margaret -- as one who muchly appreciates your literary talent and how you have used it so powerfully in this Battle -- and as a Brit -- we certainly do appreciate the artful, rhetorical use of the phrase “taking THE piss” to loosely mean “so ridiculous it is a (sick) joke”.
We normally only use the vulgar descriptor “taking A piss” to describe the actual action of relieving oneself of excess water, though typically only in relaxed social contexts (e.g. pubs), almost never in polite company, where the term “going to the toilet / loo” is more acceptable. 🤔
I was amazed to discover that the English language has many more words than language of our near and dead neighbours, France 🇫🇷 in spite of certain shared origins. I think it may well be because the British 🇬🇧 language has expanded due to its imperial reach over the centuries, though I’m no expert on its development. What I do know is that I love the rich literary treasury that English vernacular offers.
It's partly that our history has gifted us with both low German, French and Latinate roots, and then an openness to pinching anything that takes our fancy from other languages. Makes English the best language for cryptic crosswords. 🙂🙂
German has a lot of really long words! 🤣 They tend to agglutinate to express meaning, sticking bits of words together to form new ones. We just pinch any words we find useful and add 'em to the glorious jumble. 🙂
But how many words did it contain? Maybe it had half as many words as an English dictionary but German words are longer and you need a whole paragraph to explain a simple concept.
Plus Germans can't just explain a simple concept, they need to explain all the exceptions and nuances as well.
Possibly, but I tend to think it comes from internal language diversification. For some reason, regions in our small island have a tendency to stubbornly hang on to and develop the language in their own colloquial. Occasionally, a witty/smart phrase/word will be picked up, crossover the boundaries and become part of the 'national' language.
Scouse(Liverpool), Geordie(Newcastle), Cockney(London), Yorkshire.. to name a few prominent variations.
I've lived in Yorkshire all my life and have a soft Yorkshire accent, yet there are areas of Yorkshire where I will struggle to understand what is being said.
If the phrase is "Are you Having a Laugh" then it would be from Extras - he lands a spot on a show called "When the Whistle Blows" (fictitious) - this is his catch-phrase.
No need to apologize, Mara—I have a mammoth inner grammar nerd myself! And you certainly weren’t alone in pointing it out, so I’ve learned my lesson well and good now 😹
Haha, yes, every Brit on Igor’s Stack has clarified that distinction now 😆 I still blame the original source for miseducating us, if only we could figure it out …
The New York Times is clearly trying to make the old Soviet Pravda publication look honest and informative. Not exactly a worthwhile goal but given the rot in the Western media, not surprising either.
Yes! Added words can completely change the meaning of a noun/verb. For example in American slang "to bust you ass" means usually to work really hard or to fall and hurt oneself, presumably by falling on one's rump*. In contrast, "to bust ass" properly means to commit a common body function that is by turns hilarious, embarrassing, and often room-clearing.
*Perhaps this explains why there's a big crack up the middle of it?
My wife unfortunately had a very bad health emergency, she stopped breathing. She was rushed to the hospital, the paramedic helping her breath as she was unconscious, the ER put her on a ventilator.
As I entered the ER I was met by the Chaplin and was prepared by her for the potential tragic news. The doctor asking about a DNR, I thought it was over.
Thankfully she recovered in a few days. Just like that she was back to normal. It was a surreal few days, of which I never want to experience again. The cause was a severe headache, they can become so bad that your brain turns off apparently. Who knew.
But, now the reason I am commenting. During that stay in the large hospital in Denver I noticed it was full, the ER was full, and the ICU, where my wife spent a couple of days, was full. People were in the hallways. Rooms were scarce.
I asked several nurses and docs why, their answer was everything. Flus, c19, other respiratory issues, then heart attacks and on and on.
So yes, things are not better, the c-19 is being hidden this time calling it flu, just the opposite of the past two years. I think we all know why we have a sicker society, they received a posion all at the same time.
Every single decision made by experts, government, healthcare, pharma, everyone was 100 percent wrong or lied. People were literally scared Into submission and listened to the supposedly truthful authorities. Hollywood helped, they made scary movies of viruses killing millions, the media scared us 24-7.
Everything that could be done to produce the worst outcomes was done in the name of science. Not one person allowed to speak or write told a different storyline, everything was choreographed by precision.
Excellent post! I am very sorry to hear a lot your wife - l suffered an almost identical experience a year back .. l am in Britain and pure blood .. l was told, we when l thankfully recovered, by a Private Consultant that l should look into INFLAMMATION and it’s causes - he pointed to my smartphone in my handbag and said “it’s that on a vast scale - go research” .. He was a Truth Speaker, but could, be SANCTIONED by the British Government as many Doctors and Consultants are finding out! I do hope your wife continues to keep in good health ...
I'm glad your wife is ok. Your observations are no doubt accurate. However, I'd like to play devil's advocate for just a moment. Although a patient might wish it otherwise, hospitals, emergency service and (especially) specialized care like the ICU are EXPENSIVE. As such, it is in the management's interest to maximize occupancy of those as much as practical. Obvious downside are that in a crisis these will be over-loaded. Major point: when such a crisis hits, locally or regional, even the smallest overflow will swamp the hospital system. Sensationaist media will then scream "Local hospital;s overrun! Patients in hallways! Mothers giving birth in their cars!" etc. Note that I'm not denying there is a problem, only emphasizing that there is very little buffer space between "normal operation, nothing unusual" and an (apparent, but perhaps handle-able) overflow.
This hospital is very large. The ICU alone is two floors. I also asked if this was normal. The answer was rarely if ever. Now, the Denver area has experienced an immigration surge of California, NY, other Blue states. So it would be expected that everything gets busier. But, several new hospitals have been built. The bed to population number is consistently the same I am told.
But, the consensus is more illness is amoung us. I saw my doc and he mentioned the same. They see more of everything. The reason they all give is because we were locked down and didn't get the immunity we needed from the last two years. Maybe some of that is true. But, if it is that would destroy the lockdown idea, right? They are admitting that locking down stops our immune system to learn.
It seems to me a whole new health crises has been created that they refuse to logically study. It seems they do not want a normal. They want a drastic change.
You punish people by take away their liberty and their livelihood and apply the boot to the neck UNTIL they relent and get pumped full of God knows what. Russian Roulette. Maybe it kills you now or later. Maybe you will be permanently disabled. Maybe you have no effects from the jab. But the jab wasn't take protect you or me or your grandma. It was to get you in line and to submit.
Covid was a scam from the beginning. One does not falsify medical data presented to the general public, suppress early treatments and turn ones citizens into walking bio-weapon factories if the intent was to do good.
"You will know them by their fruits, a bad tree cannot bear good fruit ... " - Jesus
And we are talking about some seriously bad trees.
I fault those decisions years ago that faulted the farmers for patent infringement when their crops were contaminated with GMO from wind drift. If the farmers had been found faultless and could sue for the contamination of their organic crops, corporations would not have the free rein to experiment without liability.
Absolutely. In the early 2000's there were activist groups in France who would go out and destroy GM fields. Russ. apparently also banned GM crops to be grown.
That was also the era of Monsan. suing small companies who wrote on their label "GM-free". At the same time they tried to add a new definition of mental illness to the psychology DSM codes - someone who was picky about the purity what entered their body (as in, won't eat GM, and in today's equivalent won't take the vax.) This was also the era of the nightmare biolab disease Morgellons becoming a widespread problem, which they solved by labeling patients 'delusional' (problem doesn't exist) and moving the biolabs overseas-- still no answers, no justice for those people, no accountability for the creators of that nightmare.
That's an excellent question. From what I understood of it at the time, and looking back with todays mRNA and unearthed docs regarding bio weapons and nano tech in the body.. I believe those suffering it were 'early' test subjects of *something* But they definitely WERE NOT delusional. It made me think of that Bible phrase.. about suffering boils and sores and wanting to die but not being able to, no matter how hard you wanted to...
Hope people will wake up to the freaking hoax. My 4 times jabbed brother (God bless his soul...) is on his third confirmed by nucleocapsid antigen test covid “infection”. Oh, Lord, slap them hard so they wake up....
have friends with poorly baby under 1 ( covid, tonsils, then tum- mum jabbed when pg), a friends son who is also our friend died at 30, a teen boy friend of cous son died suddenly, also a baby ( friend of colleague) in hosp with "rsv" and another sporty teen boy, a friend of colleague just died " from strep a" . there are about 45 more known to me and close friends/ fam, lots of strokes, heart issues, cancer. some died fast( 2 brain). about 5 new parkinsons. I don't have THAT big a circle to be honest. New diabetes, hair loss. agh. could go on.
Can you give an idea of general location? I have heard more bad news from east coast and mid west than western states. I am curious about geo distribution of harms.
So sorry (I wasn't awake enough to recognize your UK-style writing :). Have friends in Yorkshire and I have not been able to convince them to stop. Believe they are on #4 or #5 now. Last response I got -
'Cos it’s absolute TOSH ... According to REAL Data from ONS there have only been 15 recorded deaths in UK due entirely to covid vaccine, , and NO deaths in under 35 age group! These people pull out and interpret statistics to suit their own cause, and are totally irresponsible. 51 million fully vaccinated in UK – Radical guy [Maajid Nawaz] reckons up to 1 in 73 have died due to vaccine – that’s nearly ¾ of a million UK citizens have died entirely due to the vaccine – don’t you think we’d have heard about that in newspapers etc. (or is that a conspiracy of silence too!) We are going for our boosters on Sunday! Hope you are well and GET BOOSTED, it’s the way forward you know👌😘
I keep trying but it certainly is difficult. And sad. And mostly scary. I do not want to lose all these people in my life.
In total agreement with that - let’s look at the impact of 5. g and the unbelievable “electrification” of the planet and then .. 🤔 add in what is coming down at you and getting into acquifiers and on the food chain - couple that lot together with an unrelenting Psyops and 24/7 Government Propaganda delivered by none other than the BBC .. the fear, the CHAOS and NOW we watch CHILDREN DYING in Britain .. from “Scarlet Fever and diphtheria” due to them not “having an immune response to deal with the illness” They are beginning .. trickle trickle trickle to let THE NEWS OUT that everyone other than the sheep and headless chicken have known for years - They are offering VERY GENEROUS RELOCATION PACKAGES to
❌THE ☠️ VACCINATORS❌ Favoured place is currently Southern Ireland on the West coast and West coast of Scotland. NO GP or NURSE will be safe! I have a dear friend who works in Search and Rescue who has been a very reliable “source” to many, taking huge risks to get the information out! Then .. don’t we all? 🤔 I am a true activist and know the cost .. l will never be defeated only by the ultimate! KEEP GOING all you wonderful and selfless brothers and sisters who STILL after 3 years are REFUSING TO COMPLY and passing vital information to required sources! I really love all of you!
Mild? I don't know about that. A woman I know, who is unjabbed, got reinfected at the beginning of this year 3 weeks after her first bout. Now she complains of forgetfulness, a lack of focus and mental clarity and extreme fatigue, similar to that seen in some jab injury victims. It never occurred to her that she could have long covid, which reportedly can result in a "mild cognitive impairment" similar to that often seen in pre-dementia. As for China's admittedly despotic approach, let's keep things in perspective. They did not mandate jabs. Compare China with the Dems. 48% of Dems wanted imprisonment for those who question the jab and nearly 1 in 3 Dems wanted the children of the unjabbed removed from their care.
I work at a college. One of the international students from Hong Kong said she had to show evidence of three shots to go to church. She also said they started the same thing with children ages 5-11. They may not have mandated it but they coerced their citizens into taking the jabs just like here.
That is not what I was told by colleagues with relatives in China. My understanding is that everyone was mandated to get the local jabs. They have avoided the MRNA magic juice but their SinoVac option has apparently as a consistent side effect - leukaemia - which affects all ages. BTW, not surprised that the Demonrats were agitating to "punish" those resisting the jabs - they were mostly on the right and that was making them subhuman enemies to be destroyed. Bolshevik in mentality, through and through.
Sir Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Valance, the main men in charge of the UK virus response, have admitted that the interventions they imposed on the UK have already directly resulted in significant excess deaths, and that these excess death are going to keep happening for some time to come, again directly due to their policies [daily mail article].
Perhaps the starkest example of this are the tragic cases of the children who have died recently due to strep A infections, which, if we are to believe the experts, is likely due the kids being left vulnerable, because they were not exposed to the usual range of viruses and bacteria during the interventions. This lack of the normal "priming" left them with weakened immune system.
This is on top of the children who have previously unexpectedly died from hepatitis and RSV, which again according to the doctors at the time, was due to the lack of normal "priming" exposures leaving the kids vulnerable. All this in the name of disease which kids have virtually zero risk from.
These two knights of the realm also admit that the interventions have damaged the development and prospects of a whole generation of our children.
Personally, I don't want to live in society in which kids end up dying or being damaged in the name of protecting adults, especially when most of the adults at high risk were in there 80s.
Particularly when, as these two "sirs" also admit, their policies also abjectly failed to even protect those most vulnerable adults group, and indeed, self-admittedly, actually put them in harm’s way due to their bungled handling of the care home situation - I live in a care home and saw first hand the deaths of lots of residents die due to their policies.
Neither do I want to be part of a culture which is busy normalizing the sexualization of children/childhood, accepting of the unnecessary medicalization of children, or now legalizing the euthanasia of kids [according to proposed new euthanasia laws in Canada, Belgium, but coming soon to a country near you too].
These acceptances of harms to kids are all of a piece, and speak to a rancid sickness at the heart of our culture.
We were repeatedly told the purpose of the interventions was to “Save Lives” and “Save the National Health Service”. They abjectly failed to do either, as we now have a NHS broken and on its knees, and even more people dying due to the ongoing lack of access, even for GP appointments.
What is even worse, is that these two psychopaths say they would do it all again!!! They should be jailed, and never put in positions of authority ever again, but instead we give them knighthoods for their "services". Another sign of a very sick society.
Those 2 murderers of the realm enabled child sacrifice. Plain and simple. So what should happen to those 2? Confession doesn’t mean absolution, does it. I agree I’m repulsed and sickened by the maltreatment and assault of children.
The current state of play seems to be that all the objections to lockdowns and similar NPI that were being made by sane people in 2020 – but were dismissed at that time as the anti-Science ravings of selfish, Trump-loving granny killers – are now being adopted by the covidian establishment (without any acknowledgment of who was right and who was wrong about lockdowns in 2020) as an explanation for the troubling new normal of widespread degraded health that seems to be emerging. Basically, they’re saying that jam-packed hospitals and decreasing lifespans now are the result of missed cancer screenings and some immunity “debt” acquired over a few weeks or months in 2020-2021.
And I guess they’ll ride that horse as far as it will carry them, rather than confront the possibility of population-wide vaxx injuries.
Knighted by a TYRANNICAL, COLONISING, SLAVE TRADING and THIEVING .. Monarchy! The Monarchy, the Aristocracy and the ruling Elites have not changed for many hundreds of years in Britain - just take a look at their castles and lands (estates of over 32,000 acres) Their AGENDA has simply moved forward and allied itself with other European countries, the US, Australia, Canada etc ..
Although it's a topic for a different discussion, many famous thinkers would disagree. Nietzsche for one, and with whom I'm most familiar, favored an aristocracy and was rather dubious of liberal democracy. I'd have to say the intervening 130(+) years have proven him right. Now don't get me wrong, I love my (American) concept of a constitutional republic, but like many think it lost its way. At the time it was an innovation: a republic that rejected monarchy and hereditary nobility; one that would be ruled by land-owning free males (presumably educated too). More on this point below. Nietzsche (and perhaps others ) note that democracy never lasts, it eventually decays into something worse, anarchy or despotism of one flavor or another. One symptom of a society as it declines is the quest for ever more wrongs to right. For example, consider the expansion of the right to vote over a few centuries. Using the USA history, first it was only wealthy educated males. Eventually the franchise expanded more to include all males, even freed slaves. Last came women about a century ago. Half a century ago, it was slightly expanded so that instead of age 21, people vote at 18. Today many States allow (most) convicted felons the vote. There is advocacy to allow non-citizens a vote. I think this is already done for some local and state elections. What next? Pets? Major point: there is only so far the reformer can go. Eventually you get to points of diminishing returns and/or absurdity. We are already well down the chute. I don't know the final end, but I suspect it won't be pretty.
Is this the same delusional logic as the cvd virus having arrived in Wuhan with frozen food from overseas....They would bury the whole train carriages to hide the accident.
Whilst many world leaders try to evade their responsibility by blaming China and their communist style of control.
What have they done in their own counties during this pandemic?
China is a WHO member same like the rest. They are world bank, IMF etc. franchises in deep debt. Nothing to do with any nations really. Bit like how McDonalds will put Portugues olive oil with their salads in Portugal to try and make it seem more Portugues but really it is a muli national franchise. If you go in France it will say 100% French beef but that is just coz that is the nearest supplier for McDonalds there.
The US government created and funded the coronavirus. Work started at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and then shipped off to China because of the moratorium.
Although I don't know the details DoD has funded dodgy "vaccine" research for years, probably decades. Mentioned in the RFK book. Also Whitney Webb writes about it. US law basically permits service members to be guinea pigs without their consent. I've never heard a claim that such extended to civilians, but perhaps I'm just old-fashioned. They had plenty of issues with anthrax vaccines.
Some it is no doubt hush-hush, but plenty isn't. Here's a DoD web page:
They have changed the law over the years in orders to facilitate this big cvd theatre.
My understanding is these injections are designed by the DoD thus being classed as 'prototypes', not pharmaceutical products under the EUA. Pharma are only their suppliers. Hence all the other official entities have technically no responsibility to regulate and monitor safety efficacy so on so forth. They are just pretending to be doing the job - that's why they are not taking action.
The HHS secretary is also given the authority to allow this operation to happen.
Pls refer to Team Enigma & Sasha or Katharine Watt (paralegal) on Substack. They detail issues on the legal side.
Curiously the same Federal law that allows "the President" to order that troops receive an injection requires the government to inform the service member or his next of kin within 30 days of what the shot was.
'Operation' warp speed - under 'a public health emergency'. It gives the authority to the HHS secretary to make a final decision whether or not sufficient safety data is available. No need to go thru the Prez.
Well, it was Fauci who subcontracted his dirty work, that got banned in the US, to the Chinese. China is the main villain at first but the US big Harma took over once the jabs became available.
If the pandemic was handled incompetently and self-servingly, it only makes sense that the post-pandemic would be also. Let the gaslighting continue!
It does seem hard to get a handle on how serious covid is now. As a paramedic, I am seeing covid and possible covid cases , but not to the extent and severity as at the height of the pandemic.
I'm still wondering if Gert VanDenBosch will end up being right about a really virulent varient reeking havoc on the vaccinated. Guess we'll know by the end of the winter.
BTW, I am one of the unjabbed who had one case mild case and no lingering effects.
Have you considered the effects of electromagnetic radiation and electrification and of course Graphene oxide in the PCR and Vax? I find it enormously illuminating that if you take a map of where the Cell towers are in the UK then overlay another showing the highest outbreaks of covid .. you get an almost perfect match ..
I do not beleive for one second China has changed their tune but rather given the impression they have simply to inflict even harsher restrictions - this uprising should've happened long ago - the fact that it finally and only happened now is a tell tale sign of far worse to come! Until they burn the Country down and overthrow the government - it will remain unchanged. Strictly my opinion.
If we think back to the last major protests against China in, oh, late 2019 - Hong Kong, also supported by Western Media - those were conveniently shut down when a novel Corona Virus appeared from a market......
Agreed. The only to get rid of communists is all out war with no hesitation. Why? Because they have no problem with eradicating entire sections of the population - for them power is essential not matter the cost. In short, it is you or them.
I think there have been major “rumblings in the jungle” for many years now .. the majority of Chinese people have NEVER been “privately loyal” to their Totalitarian Government - much like the one developing in Britain. I lived for some years in Hong King and travelled to China regularly - in the course of which many Chinese people spoke openly to me .. There is something way beyond horror that we are about to see happen in China .. we have mass crematoria here now in Britain .. Putin will need to drop a “short life targeted nuke” to deal with the resulting effects of this barbarism ..
The past two years have boldly shown the stark difference between those who depend on "science" to maintain their well-being and those who maintain their health to maintain their well-being.
The lying, deceit and manipulation of the medical community which depend on pushing sponsored drugs for their income will not cease even if government manipulation of health insurance is ended.
It continues to amaze me how many still believe with religious fervor a paper mask can protect "themselves and others" from a virus which escaped a Level 4 BioLab.
No doubt, many are drastically affected by the virus, and I do have sympathy, but the promulgated cure exponentially causes problems where likely none previously existed.
Well said. As I (and others) say in so many different ways: a systemic "illness" for which, alas there is no ready cure or even treatment, is the pervasive LYING and putting profits before science and, in many cases, even health and lives. Short term the best I can offer -- at least what I'm pivoting to in my own life -- is to be skeptical of the entire medical field, any of their claims and so on. To the maximum extent possible, do NOT trust your doctor at face value. If possible, verify any advocated drug or treatment you are unfamiliar with. I'm not saying all treatment is worthless (e.g. I still see a dentist and will take antibiotics as needed). But if a doctor ever tried to tell me to get a Covid-19 shot I would fire him. I've already gotten wise to certain treatments that I was duped into (statins, blood pressure, aspirin) that i've discovered are statistically useless. I've yet to have a confrontation with my docs on these, but I'm going off them with or without their approval, let the chips fall where they may. For this white boy, I won't be ingesting anything that i haven't checked out beforehand. I'll make an exception for emergency care, but routine? I'm watching them like a hawk.
Likewise, I have become wise to statins and aspirin claims.
Getting my doctor to check my Vitamin D levels almost requires giving a full dutch rub!
He always manages to "forget" to check the box. From all the writings, I'm thinking it is much more than "forgetting". This "forgetting" been an ongoing fight for over three years now. Amazingly, he averages "remembering" about once per year.
I called him out on the statins. He pulls out his smart phone and looks up the life expectancy at my age (65) using statins. Came out to a whole seven months. And I'm in excellent health. None of this co-morbidity stuff. My BP has been high since my teens so the doctors always are pushing statins, et al. Nothing works. He's had his heart attack and I'm older than him. I remind him I'm the stroke guy. Dad and Mom made it into high 80s and didn't die of heart failure or stroke!
I'm with you on the emergency room stuff. In an emergency, we're all kind of at the mercy of whatever they decide to put in the IV - in our best interests, of course. I'm certain they mean well, but, like my old flight instructor said: When they clear you for take-off, look! If someone lands on top of you, you'll be dead. The guys in the tower will only be sorry.
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps one of the biggest "moments of epiphany" I had when looking under the hood, at critical books and/or the studies themselves, is how little these drugs actually have to offer (as primary prevention). I usually compute all-cause deaths and it's minuscule. Added time of life is another way to look at the data, but it's hard to calculate and NEVER mentioned in the study. Recently I looked at a blood pressure lowering meta-analysis (this one, freely available)
The median age in this analysis was about 65 and lots of the people had prior health issues. Even so, I calculated the reduction in all-cause mortality (to me, the most important figure) : In those with NO history of cardio-vascular disease, that difference was a whopping 0.18%. For those with a history of, it was 0.14%. The overall death rates were about double what a "normal" 65-year-old's should be; I attribute that to the unhealthy enrolled in the trials.
I do not deny that hypertension and statin meds do what's claimed. Trials -- all I've seen -- normally DO show an improvement in CVD events or deaths, but even there the absolute reduction is quite modest. Apparently they do have their legitimate medical uses. But for primary prevention in people with no history of trouble? While they do tend to reduce heart attack, stroke, etc. the overall death rate (and date) hardly budges. Very counter-intuitive, but this result shows up in nearly all studies. Statistically, being on one of these regimens might add a few weeks or months to your life expectancy. No thanks, I'll take the slightly shorter life and be free of the inevitable side effects these drugs have, thank you very much, doctor!
A final quirk in my "meta-meta-analysis": In the "no history of" group, the lowest overall death rates were in the cohort with quite high blood pressure (160-169 systolic). This held true for both "intervention" and "comparator." This anomaly did not occur in the "prior history" group. I suspect a flaw of some type in the the data. I don't think even the crackpots are claiming that Stage 2 hypertension reduces the risk of death in healthy people, but there is the data.
“YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR WEALTH” has always been my mantra and that never cache out of a bottle or a pill box - just eating good Organic food, exercising regularly, sleeping well, keeling a good routine, socialising and stimulating my mind .. leading pretty much an Ayurvedic lifestyle .. Not too difficult l think!
Then you will surely believe “The Anti-Christ” walks among us ..
Yes, as near to zero Fluoride is essential .. there are many toothpastes without it Dr Bronners is good .. YOUR WATER? It’s a question l have wanted to ask for a long time .. what are you and others doing about getting as close to “pure” as possible?
I bought a Berkey Gravjfy Fed water filtration unit .. and used 4 black filters and two Fluoride filters - was stunned when l tested the water .. it was leaching our aluminium .. so now holds a shred that is refusing to die!
Reverse Osmosis is great and reasonably effective, if you live in a soft water area - if not a water softener must be fitted to household supply ..
Distillation is steamy, provides a huge amount of heat and not a lot of water - also needs re-energising with essential minerals as these are removed during distillation - Pink Himalayan salt used to be good but now mined in areas with high heavy metal deposits - next is Celtic Sea Salt .. slightly better .. Distillation will remove 99.9% of TDS and most everything else .. but not sure about Fluoride?
Mineral water is a huge NO now .. PELLAGRINO have stated on bottle in ingredients “Strontium” 🤔 among so many other negative additives ..
So that leaves us with tap water 😂 mine is so chlorinated you have to leave the room if the tap is run for long .. and what are they covering up - makes me shudder! As l know!!
Tap Water. Ugh. What you poop in today, you drink tomorrow!
Luckily i live in a rural area and have a well that runs off solar and lithium with a reverse osmosis filter. Its great.
Next year, I take the house offgrid, get two more dogs and 2000 rounds for the AR. The property is fenced, security cams and alarms.
I cant remember the philosopher, but when he was asked what he wanted to be when he grew up he said, "I want to be assassinated by my Government. That way I know for sure my life meant something."
If only it were this simple. I have no problem with people jabbing themselves - it is a personal choice (insane choice but it is theirs). However, they see it as a problem that people like me do not want to join them into their rush to oblivion.
Agreed. All you can do is arm yourself and wait for the day you are in the Alamo.
Biden day one started the process to create a Treaty with the WHO where if the WHO decides their is a health issue of concern can invade any country and do anything it wants with the help of UN troops. The treaty gives up sovereignty. This is obviously Treason.
Also: my brother in law is dealing with some circulatory problem involving his legs. Triple injected (cuz he had to travel to Mexico for golfing and shit like that). Prayers welcome. Had some pre-Wuhan flu surgery on the legs, so it could be unrelated... but...
so in the past you were present at autopsies, and that fact alone makes that you claim those clots are not caused by a dead body sitting around too long.
really?
and how would you know how long a body has to be dead to form those clots?
you still did photograph autopsies after the clotshots started?
did any of those autopsies show the clots?
after how much time after death do the clots show up?
The embalmers have been quite clear in saying they NEVER saw this type of clotting prior to 2021. A normal process from the body sitting too long is ruled out. The question is is there something about either covid or the vaccines that causes this, either pre or post mortem? Questions medicine should want answers to but doesn't.
No, you're probably wrong. Even if you never worked in a mortuary, and most of us probably haven't, anyone should be able to understand that to embalm a cadaver, they need to inject embalming fluid into (probably) an artery and at the same time, allow the old blood to drain out. If the blood "normally" clotted at death, that would be obviously impossible, wouldn't it? Would you not concede this rather lends credibility to the undertakers in the "Died Suddenly" video explaining it, and why massive clots impede their task? I believe they comment too that the long clots are NOT comprised of clotted blood, but obviously I have noway to verify that claim.
That's really the crux of the matter. When and how do these unprecedented structures form?
Since this story broke over the last year, the medical establishment has been completely incurious about answering those questions. As they have been for two years about anything that could reveal problems with the vaccines. THAT'S the issue.
Igor, thanks again for your honest posts. You always make me rethink my opinions. Good service.
Since I don't know many unjabbed people, I just can speak from my experience: I haven't gotten COVID yet, took ivermectin prophylactically 9 month last year and take 48mg every three weeks. I have traveled a lot and have close maskless close to face contact with at least 15-20 people everyday. All people I know gotten COVID already. Some friends jabbed (sinovac) had it super strong for 14 days. Then three days after recovery got the throat ache back and couldn't clear it. Kind of a rebound. One friend finally took the ivermectin i gave him last year and the throat ache immediately cleared up.
Now he traveled with 4 people all got COVID but he not. All mRNA jabbed get it more then once, that's really is obvious i would say.
Some get really sick, vomiting, cannot get up, muscle ache for days on end. So I agree with you it's not over and not really mild. But certainly not pandemic level.
I had heart issues and a short-term stroke from Sinovac. I've only had the one dose, my wife has 3. We both took around 14 days to clear a recent infection, and I do feel like it's come back as a low-level fatigue and chestiness.
Deactivated full-virus type, a more traditional approach. None are a good idea but I figured it would be safer than mRNA (and still think it probably is)
The S-protein antibody response from the whole virus vaccines (Sinovac, Coronavac, Turkovac) is only 10% of that from the Pfizer vaccine. If damage from spike protein is dose dependent that would suggest less damage from the traditional vaccines...but not zero damage.
A severe COVID infection is also going to result in S-protein in blood stream causing damage. The difference is that if you have a strong immune system you will fight off COVID in your airways before it gets into the blood stream.
So spike in the blood is always bad but there are going to be degrees of damage.
Totally agree. Some people keep talking about the need to aspirate the needle (a test withdrawal to check for blood before pushing the plunger in), and that probably would make a difference for something like Sinovac, but little difference to the lipid nano-particle type. LNPs will go everywhere almost immediately anyway
In a REAL PANDEMIC Hazmat suits and ancillary breathing equipment would be required. FACT. Just take a look at Cat 4 Lab workers. The masks people generally wore were nothing more than muzzles and many were impregnated with graphene oxide .. they were totally USELESS and laughable .. Hope you continue to stay fit 🤞
But we know now that only 6% or less of those who died actually died of covid due to manipulation of death certificates, flu disappearing, monetizing treatment and actual death in hospitals by calling not Covid deaths covid to get _$$. Bad PCR tests, fiddling statistics--the whole ball of now melting wax. So the true lethality of the pandemic was wildly and deliberately overstated. Probably actually no more than a more lethal flu season. manipulated PCR testing overcounted the “cases”. I knew no one who died nor even got covid until omicron. Even my senior friends. Will we ever know for sure the true story. Sigh.
This is not pleasant to watch unfold in real time. Many injected friends getting sick, a prolonged case of the 'sniffles', repeatedly, and worse (irregular heartbeats, doctor tells them "it's probably hormonal imbalance, totally normal, don't worry"). Even mildly suggesting their immune system might be compromised falls on deaf ears. Many have said to me "I expect to get COVID again soon, it's been a few months since my last case." They've forgotten that it is not normal to be re-infected by any flu-like virus multiple times within a span of 12 months.
*Edit: What a fascinating thread. The fact that these words resonate with so many shows that anecdotal evidence cannot be discounted, and should be 'qualitative data'. Here's to hoping we can deprogram our friends and families and save their souls.
This is what I found missing in Igor's post. He mentioned repeated covid infections but he didn't tie them to immune system damage caused by the covid poison injections. If everyone had simply gotten covid, and no one had taken any covid "vaccines," we'd have had solid herd immunity by now, and the number of excess deaths would be either nonexistent or so small as to be statistically insignificant.
I will add a paragraph to that effect, it is an omission on my part
This is a man-made virus that contains bits of HIV and prion like proteins designed to prevent immunity and promote harm. There is more to come in the years ahead. This knowledge was provided by the Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier:
https://rumble.com/vhsm3h-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-warns-covid-vaccine-may-lead-to-neurodegenera.html
https://rumble.com/vuunm2-dr.-richard-fleming-luc-montagnier-spike-proteins-may-contain-genetic-seque.html
Man-made its is; virus it need not be.
In reality we actually DID have it before the injections began. 2020 per week summer deaths actually dipped below 100% expected at times.
Bill Rice Jr. has been writing about the fact that evidence shows that covid-19 was circulating for quite a few months (in 2019) before the public had any inkling of its existence, but officials have suppressed and ignored the evidence of this. According to what he has found in his investigations, covid had been circulating widely for at least a year by summer 2020, so that's not surprising.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/the-dog-that-didnt-bark?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/why-early-spread-matters?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/how-many-americans-had-been-infected?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Great catch, and an important reminder.
I always tell people there were fewer deaths in the first 36 weeks of this pandemic (no injections), than the next 36 weeks (injection rollout), and even more in the next 36 weeks (booster rollout).
Something about that timeline doesn't sound overly effective - especially as it's only measuring the most severe outcome.
Yeah-- WWT?
Can't disagree here. Just curious - is the 3 year period before lawsuits a guess, or are you basing it on something specific?
Igor has me convinced of the VAIDS hypothesis. The best proof of a hypothesis is to make predictions and see if they are coming true.
Unfortunately events are proceeding as predicted. HIV/AIDS took an average of five years from original flu like symptoms to the multiple cancers of AIDS. Five years was an average. In three more years, four years from the jabs, the people on the short end of the bell curve will be dying in large numbers. I hope I am wrong.
In the meantime, I will continue to use Vitamin D+K, zinc, quercetin, and try to avoid the boosted people. I don't fear the virus, I fear the shed spikes and mRNA nano lipids.
The jabbers won't last three years.
I have to wonder this myself. I'd like to think many / most will, but I still think there's going to be a significant number who don't. And those survivors (or the families who have lost loved ones) will still sue their asses into bankruptcy. (We can only hope.)
Depends - the old ones will not. Prof. Dolores Cahill gave them a couple of years straight from the beginning; for the younger ones, her estimate was 5 - 10 years. Watching from the sidelines. I have seen one octogenarian dead within 12 months, the other within 18 months after receiving their first poison death shot. Usually, the cause of death is recorded as pneumonia.
I've seen a lot of injury in the last year- 6 blood clot cases, 2 heart attacks, 1 stroke, 2 cancers, 1 SADS. Can't remember when I've seen so many life threatening illnesses so close together.
Of that list, 2 deaths (would have been 3 except paramedics arrived soon enough to revive him). Most were in the 50-70 age bracket.
That's why I wonder if there will be much illness, but maybe not death. Still - a potentially dismal future... Just watching so much of this, even if you are unjabbed, or jabbed but not (yet?) effected.
We know there will. Long term mostly cancers, dementia, degenerative brain disorders. But all those diseases on some serious steroids.
Plus all the unborn children will add to the credit of the depop program. And those born discovered they can't conceive when they grow up. Multi-prong!
Exactly!!!
I had a 40 year old customer die yesterday. Marathon runner, no health problem. Just got his booster.
While at the pharmacy yesterday, a 40ish, healthy looking guy was there for his booster. I thought "Really?". When the jab house of cards falls, there will be hell to pay.
I go to kroger and every few minutes..the ad over the PA comes on say We have great new boost to keep you safe...its the repeat messaging..like the russian subways before the wall fell ..over the PA look at the beautiful mosaics and chandeliers we give safe amazing life vs the west that is filled with drugs and violence . same stuff of social media..24/7
It’s the same at ALL the big chains too, an overhead announcement loudly proclaiming you to get your updated booster shot today!
how about the one where they compared getting the booster to reapplying sunscreen!!!!Played every few minutes.
Ugh I’ve not heard that one! Must be Kroger specific. That’s awful.
Nah, it'll just fade away. American idiots lack basic observational and critical thinking skills. And they're all failing at basic arithmetic, they can't add so there'll be no putting two and two together, either.
I HATE these evil Ph**ks who jammed this shit into so many people.
There are days I think I'm progressing to become a more peaceful person... Then I read things like this, and it sets me into a rage.
This is no time to search for peace out of accepting complying leads to death or enslavement and not complying leads to death. For me, I have no interest in being a slave.
I understand what you're saying. What I meant is more of - I know it's unhealthy for me to stay in a state of constant anger. This is what I'm working towards - so I can handle any challenges that are still likely to come.
But no - not particularly interested in being a slave (or an early death).
I listen to a lot of NDE - near-death experience - videos on YouTube. You have to wade through them to sort the wheat from the chaff but I find many of the stories to be very uplifting in terms of soul, raising my vibration and working towards letting go of Earthly anger over the evil being done.
What an interesting idea. I have mostly focused on meditation, and a little Church... And it's helped cool my rage to "only" anger.
Thanks for the suggestion!
We often confuse peaceful with complacent. Complacency is sometimes lethal, always dangerous, in a dangerous world.
Great point!
It's so evil and SO IN OUR FACE!
Yea it actually hit me pretty hard. Super nice guy, married, father. So much energy. Just murdered by his propagandist Government.
Thank you for using the correct word - MURDERED. It also tells everyone what the Government (almost all governments worldwide) really think of their own people. We're nothing but livestock to them.
USG has done this before with poisoning alcohol during prohibition and operation sea spray to name a couple.
I think they've sold us out to the technocrats who plan on taking over. The demagogues are either retirement age or imagine they'll get good appointments as regional managers after the Reset. (PM Trudeau's ambition most likely. Ditto for Gov. Newsom and Gov. Whitmer.)
Bull Dog, that's really bad, bad news. My vaccinated 42 year old son-in-law used to run 11 miles back to back on weekends, I've got him down to 5 miles based on reports like yours.
Where are you Bull Dog? The UK?
No, I live in hell.
Portland Or
Bulldog, I know something dark and frankly demonic (imho) has taken over Portland and I am so sorry for everyone living through this nightmare!! Especially there.
However there are people working to reawaken sanity in Salem, Oregon as much of the rest of the State has the "memo." They do know what is happening and are not ready to give up yet.. Think about contacting your elected Legislators and telling them your experience. I know is sounds futile, but it was 5000 volunteers in Florida, all pledged to making 5 phone calls a day, into the Florida Legislature to get the bill passed that stopped Covid Vax discrimination! (And forced masking) Also Legislative Days are coming up, Dec. 7, 8, and 9 in Salem, and Activists and Advocates will be there.
Oregonians For Medical Freedom
Mom's For Liberty
Peoples Rights
Children's Heath Defense, Oregon Chapter.
Together the people have chance. Apart we are finished for sure.
Something demonic that took over Portland, OR...riiiight: Deep-blue-pilled "woke" liberals who drank all the W.E.F. Kool-Aide..
well that's why your part is saying "cheers, bye bye now!" and observe them doing their part. curtains
...only SLIGHTLY worse than Marin County, California....
Me and my wife are unjabbed, we got COVID a year ago this month.
She had it like the flu, for me it wasn’t even noticeable, some chills for an hour and one night sweat.
Everyone around us is jabbed and they’re always sick. One of my wife’s coworkers had to go the hospital for a cold. My previous boss is in his 30’s and had to go to the hospital for some cold so innocuous, nobody’s even heard of it, “slapped face syndrome” or some such nonsense.
Everyone at the grocery store is coughing and sniffling, and people started wearing masks again.
Meanwhile my wife brought the crud home (could’ve been COVID again, lol) and I felt next to nothing, and she took some DayQuil and powered through her day like it was nothing.
Exact same situation for my self and daughter! We would never entertain the idea to substitute our immune system with an experimental INJECTION for something that isn’t even dangerous to us.
You are fortunate in likely having a strong immune system - everyone is different of course. My wife and I got Covid in December 2019 - my son unknowingly brought it back from a trip to Finland where some Chinese were in the party (we only assume this). Anyway at the family Christmas gathering we all got sick - some worse than others - but my wife got it real bad.
The doctor had no idea what it was, and sent us to A&E in early January 2020. Antibiotics were all they could think of - my wife spent a month in bed - on and off fevers - sickness - all the symptoms of flu and more. It wasn't the flu I know, although I have never had it - others near me have.
I had a heavy cough which i couldn't shift for a month. Then I became breathless for several weeks, spoke to the doctor (due to lockdown), who advised an inhaler - the local pharmacy were brilliant. NHS couldn't do a lung test because of restrictions. The inhaler helped for two years - I have recently finally had a lung test - damage irreparable - puffers forever - but at least they work. grateful for small mercies.
This is an evil bioweapon compounded by the Vaxx and my ethical medical contacts confirm same. We are in a battle for our survival - I intend to fight to the death - I am 78 - so a bit closer than most!
Before covid my friend was struggling terribly with what was diagnosed as COPD, not severe, but requiring an inhaler. Lots of issues with humidity, allergies etc. He started nebulizing glutathione and started being able to breathe and sleep again. Now he uses some one puff corticosteroid and is fine, mostly. He's 74. The glutathione treatment is working so well you can put it in a search engine and get mainstream medicine evidence. https://drmorsillo.com/nebulized-glutathione-to-help-you-breathe-easier/
Thank you so much Cynthia. The doctor has prescribed a Trimbow inhaler recently and it's working well. I was using Fostair which was also good but this new one is even better. I have little difficulty breathing now. Fortunately I am very healthy with a strong immune system - I have never had flu in my life - so always rejected their jabs. I guess the good Lord is preserving me for his mission which will be revealed in due course or not :-)
Where is this unfolding, a heavily-vaxxed-up area, sounds like?
Ah, the MAGIC of immune imprinting!
Yes. This. Vaxed people I know do not seem to get better. I have been trying to steer them to treatments for the multiple jabs, but they do NOT want to hear it.
Immune system degradation. The worst part is that anyone with a rudimentary understanding of vaccines, Corona viruses, and the immune system, would have, and did, predict this.
Yep - we did - but it made no difference: https://cmnnews.org/
Likewise - I show them my colleague's site - it makes little difference - they are as if a deer in the headlights - frozen in inaction - weird:
https://cmnnews.org/
it was gamed, not sure though.
Yes, the most recent event I heard of yesterday from a friend (60 years old) is that they coincidentally discovered a tumor in his parotid gland. It's not the only cancer occurence in weird organs that I have heard of in the last year...
That's awful, I'm sorry to hear that. I know of a similar case with someone of a similar age. Three months after 4th booster.
I would love to see @Igor Chudov dive into the "totally normal" and "coincidental" irregular heartbeat issue. I bought into the initial Vac propaganda and got it as soon as it became available. Shortly after my 2nd shot, I remember feeling irregular heartbeats as my wife and I were going to sleep. It scared me because my dad died as a result of complication from a heart attack.
I still have school aged kids and I am the main breadwinner in the house. I need to live long enough to finish raising my kids. I kept my worries to myself and slowly got used to the new normal until July '22 when the transient condition finally stopped being transient. My resting heart rate went to ~150 BPM and it stayed there. The last 5 months has resulted in multiple medication changes to control this "normal" condition. I'm pretty sure that this *IS* the new normal for a lot of people. Appointments with a cardiologist (2 different practices) require a minimum wait of 6 weeks. The physicians assistants are booked a month ahead.
My brother, who also got the vac, just went thru a nearly identical experience. His symptoms were worse and they had to do an emergency ablation. My sister, who is very pro vac and has gotten multiple boosters, also has a recently acquired irregular heartbeat problem. Obviously, we probably have a genetic disposition towards this issue. However, we all experienced the issue very soon after vaccination. I have a hard time reconciling this as coincidence. Also, have cardiologists always been in this much of a demand?
I used to be pro every kind of vac, but that changed once my resting heart rate started going to 150 bpm for the slightest of triggers. This condition is very debilitating. @Igor Chudov, I think this supposedly coincidental (heart related) disease could use an in-depth study. One other interesting note, after my wife got her second shot, she immediately went into menopause at 40 years old. Six months after the second shot, she started to have her period again, but she has been struggling with particularly nasty menopause symptoms ever since.
Here's one case to look at that may be related.
"Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) is an impaction of the autonomic nervous system initiating orthostatic tachycardia. There are numerous triggers for POTS including viruses, vaccines, and an autoimmune basis. This case report is clinically relevant to better understand the pathophysiology behind the messenger RNA (mRNA) coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine and the mechanism that triggers autonomic nervous system dysfunction. Furthermore, the overall goal of this case study is to report a unique side effect associated with the novel mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. A 42-year-old male, with no prior symptoms of sinus tachycardia and presyncope episodes, is diagnosed with POTS secondary to the first dose of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8101507/
I have friends with every male in the family now facing heart issues.
Have you looked at the FLCCC post-v protocol? They have lists of docs treating v injured people on their website. Perhaps there is one near you, or one that will do telehealth with you.
Also go to Stop Mandatory Vaccination website by Larry Cook and look at the protocol of ideas for reducing v injury. His is primarily focused on the routine v’s of childhood, but I bet many of the same things might apply.
And finally, consider looking at naturopathic physician or a well-trained homeopath (doesn’t necessarily have to be a physician.). You can do all these things simultaneously while awaiting a cardiologist visit.
I don’t know if Dr William Davis discusses this sort of thing in his website or forum, but he discusses all other manner of heart stuff. From a functional medicine vantage point. So you may find information on helpful dietary and nutritional supplements there.
I am so sorry to hear this. I believe one would be “reaching” to think that these extreme health changes are coincidental. You must have courage to face this so I wish you more and strength. I wish I had some health advice but I am just a regular person who is seeing what is going on and cannot accept it. Do you know of Dr, Aseem Malhotra? Check him out.
I recommend finding a cardiologist or naturopath that is demonstrably counter mainstream mRNA injection narrative so you can start with bloodwork. You should check if you ar dealing with actual heart disease already. I think you could start with teledoc with someone from FLCCC. I think Pierre Kory is doing teledoc now as well.
I have friends, Nicolas, like you, who were initially convinced that the Vaxx would save their lives - their fear level was extreme. My protestations were cast aside. My advice to boost their immune systems with Vitamin D & C, zinc and green tea was laughed at.
I showed them this short video to explain that God gave us a magical system beyond the understanding of 'science': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIJK3dwCWCw
I showed them that my wife and I have never had a sniffle since my Australian doctor advised us in January 2020 and adjusted our lifestyle to accommodate the therapy. They wouldn't listen, until I had lunch in the presence a friend a few months ago, who espoused the same theme - and they asked me to check their Vaxx codes - which I did and they were clear - thank God.
Now they will never have another Vaxx - the health institutions have cut their own throats - liars never prosper - it is a truism that has stood the test of time - and is no less relevant in this age of manic hysteria.
Wonderful they listened!
My jabbed friends and family keep getting bad cases of the flu. Really severe and frequent.
Are they still grateful for the protection that the jabs has given them? Or is it the case that they realise now that the jabs not only fail to protect them but they are actually damaging to their immune system?
They say "it could have been worse if I hadn't been v****nated."
Lots of evidence to the contrary, carefully hidden.
Not hidden anymore - it takes blind ignorance to avoid all the evidence, a lot of it provided by the propaganda media I might add. In OZ we are having another wave and in Victoria they are agitating about masking indoors. Given that more 80% of the population has been jabbed to some level, it just proves that the jabs are not just useless, but rather drive the new mutations and the subsequent waves. Oh, and their solution, yep, get more jabs FAST.
It's hidden from most. Blind ignorance is the real pandemic. Socialists like it that way, and cultivate it. It's the only way they can gain power.
But of course. I have seen with those who actually died and their relatives were of the opinion without the jabs, it would have been worse. In short, a fate worse than worse than death. It takes total delusional thinking to come up with that. Very fitting for those who still think the jabs are protecting them - after they had Covid multiple times.
Exactly.
You accomplished nothing.
It will take multiple deaths to change these minds.
Sometimes. For the great majority, nothing will make a difference - they are that invested in the "narrative".
All you can say is: "Go ahead, knock yourself out with boosters, stay up-to-date, save the planet!"
Imagine the mindset it takes to accept the risk on both sides.
It's doublethink and cognitive dissonance. It is simultaneously holding two or more contradictory concepts in the mind, and believing whichever suits the circumstance to protect the individual from fear, truth, reality, and their worldview(s). Extreme mental gymnastics. I worry for the mental health of the people in this place.
“For nearly three years, the Chinese government deployed its considerable propaganda apparatus to fan fears about Covid to justify large-scale quarantines, frequent mass testing and the tracking of more than a billion people.”
The New York Times said that. The New-F*cking-Propaganda-Apparatus-York-Times.
As the Brits would say, “Are you taking a piss?!”
Look “rich” up in the dictionary, and you’ll find that example under the “informal” entry.
New York times is second, in dishonesty, only to the Chinese health experts!
True, Igor—although I’d venture the NYT is more dangerous because most people know the Chinese press is pure propaganda, while an inexplicable number of people still trust the New York Times!
Yes !
We need a Letter to the Perpetual Propaganda Propagators !!
That’s on my todo list! 😆
Love your letters.
Thank you, Igor! That means a lot coming from you 😌
Well,
Who better to tackle that…No one !
They badly need a comeuppance.
Haha, thanks, Wendy! I certainly have some choice words for them 😂
I dunno about most people knowing the Chinese press is propaganda.
If that were true, why did so many people buy the lies about how bad Wuhan virus was and that it came from bats?
Because 1) fear causes people to suspend their critical thinking and 2) it was mediated through the Western media, and most people don’t consider the original source.
Yes, but still…
I was raised to be suspicious of ANYTHING coming out of China.
So Western media reported it. But I instantly assumed that (1) either the situation was a nothing-burger, like the first SARS, and China was using it as an excuse for more totalitarianism or (2) it was actually WAYYYY worse than China was reporting and this was their way of trying to “save face,” because China never wants to look bad.
I mean, for people to believe that Western media was being given the straight scoop was naive at best. China lies. Why would they give the truth to Western media?
If only more people were as skeptical as you!
As of yesterday, China was locked down hard and for the rest of the year, per my friends there. They had to cancel a trip, stock up, and plan to stay home for the holidays.
Just asked again. Today's status ... That is purely lip service for the foreign press. Mandatory isolation when traveling. Long waits for services (recall our lockdown ghost towns). Everybody has to stay in separate lodging! Daily covid testing (and risk getting locked up or dragged away). Cold food (restaurants closed, etc.). Sounds miserable. Better to stay at home.
**Ok, this is officially the FOURTH time I've tried to post this comment and it actually posted this time, but only half of it. Let's see if it'll go this time....
This is what I have been waiting to hear. An actual report from the inside. The crazy ass CCP, the one that WELDED PEOPLE INTO THIER HOMES to such an extent that citizens WERE BURNED ALIVE last week has suddenly flipped? Sorry, boo....carry on. And the fact that the NYT and all the usual suspects (npr, cnbc, reuters, cnn) are reporting the same talking points makes it all the more suspect. I mean, China IS known for its transparency and all...
I'd be interested to hear an update from this guy J(eff Nyquist): https://rumble.com/v1xvul4-will-chinas-mass-protests-collapse-the-ccp.html
I'm sure most of the world will takes their dose of propaganda like obedient little peasants. I mean all those reports from all of those trusted news sources...its probably true.
Judith Miller did it for me. Haven't bothered with them since.
Think: "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD". The NYT was second only to the Washington Post, whose publisher founded the program.
https://whale.to/b/depraved_spies.html
https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.php
Wikipedia probably lists both sites as dodgy... Which might be regarded as a badge of honor... But the works of Alex Constantine are just republished by both. Both can also be found in his books, published by Feral House. Titles like: "Psychic Dictatorship" and "Virtual Government" etc.. In his prime, he was 20-30 years ahead of our times.
https://constantinereport.com/media-liberals-for-fascism-how-corporatecia-subsidized-progressive-journalistic-surrogates-mau-mau-the-communard-flak-catchers-baby/
We all must figure out how to become more able to identify and recognize psychopaths - especially among our potential leaders. How many psychopathic canines can we imagine existing in a wolf pack? Probably not many - if any. Those who act against the good of the tribe are summarily expelled.
Have you ever heard of the BBC?
It is a small propaganda channel from the UK
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You have got to laugh or else you would cry - half an hour of BBC Crap At Six and half an hour of BBC South Today.
There are many thousands of press outlets (propaganda proselytizing centers) who can compete with all of these across the planet. They all seem to deserve number one.
Just for future reference, it's "taking THE piss." Though your version is funnier 🙂
Churchill (?) was so right saying we are two peoples separated by a common (but diverging) language. Of course, there are endless examples. "Get pissed" in the UK means to get drunk. In US it means to get angry. In the UK you're mad (insane). In the US it typically means "angry." I've never been to the UK, unless you count a layover at a NATO airport [grin]. I would love to visit but between age, fear of flying and the ever tightening bio-security state, that's unlikely. And besides, where could one obtain an English-English dictionary?
It’s a shame about those barriers: North Americans seem to love visiting the historic “homeland” especially if they are aware of British ancestors.
On diverging language: i have been to the States several times and have several colleagues, who typically seem to appreciate and enjoy my accent and ‘correct’ use of English. By contrast, I remember being rather taken back by a Stateside missionary, living here in U.K. who had a broad southern US accent. Frustrated by her efforts to understand my un-accented, correctly-spoken ‘Queens English’, she complained to her husband: “I can’t understand a word he’s saying”. To which there was no polite answer.
In Cyprus I was at a waterpark and in my defence I had a bad ear infection.
My son wanted to know what the time was so I asked this lady what the time was and she said something in Russian.
Son goes "what's the time then?"
I said "I don't know the lady is Russian"
The lady came over and spoke to my son and I am just like "what".
Turns out she wasn't Russian at all, she was from Newcastle.
Totally my fault for being Southern.
Good to know! I was specifically thinking of a line my husband and I frequently quote from one of our favorite Britcoms, “Are you taking a piss? Are you taking a piss?” I think it’s either “Black Books” or “Fifteen Storeys High,” but it’s been so many years, I can’t remember now! Could also be “IT Crowd,” “Father Ted” … so many possibilities.
Margaret - I didn’t actually watch any of these shows, but have a passing familiarity with ‘Father Ted’ and I’d recommend starting there if you are determined to track down the origin of the particular phrase you cite… It sounds like something Father Ted ☘️ crew might say, intentionally mis-using the popular British slang?
Allow me to help you out. “Taking the piss” is always at the recipient’s expense. Same as “are you having me on?”
Years ago my ex-girlfriend (we'd parted on civil terms) had returned to collect her belongings and stayed the night (she lived quite far away). Upon departing she, always the gracious one, said "Thank you for having me." [to host, to entertain]. I, always the sardonic one, said "I always enjoyed having you." [you'll have to look that one up!]
I've made similar puns: A female co-worker was once innocently recounting her visit with an interesting man. "He wants to see more of me." Ever the lecher, I quickly replied "Lisa, most men want to see more of you."
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My husband and I *thought* we had it figured out. We were thinking it was the catch phrase of Ricky Gervais’s fictional character within the fictional sitcom (“When the Whistle Blows”) within “Extras” (brilliantly meta). We thought maybe the mistake was intentionally idiosyncratic to his silly character … but then we found a clip, and the catch phrase is actually, “Are you havin’ a laugh? Are you havin’ a laugh?”
So it’s back to the drawing board.
Can't quite believe we are having to educate each other on how to cuss properly, lol!
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If the phrase is "are you having a laugh", then it would likely be Extras with Ricky Gervais. After years of getting nowhere, this jobbing actor/screen extra somehow lands a prominent spot on a really crap comedy show - that's the idiot catchphrase he has to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SK3y1a8TYs
Yes, that was exactly the line of thinking we went down, as you likely saw in my comment above. We’re still trying to figure out the source of “Are you takin’ a piss” x 2, though …
I'm thinking Bernard on Black Books. def THE though... although aurally sounds like nuh
Bernard is a good guess, but I’m quite positive it isn’t him as my husband and I know nearly every line of “Black Books” by heart. It really feels more like Ricky Gervais, Sean Lock, or a secondary character.
Oops. Lack of readundery on my part.
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To everyone who has enjoyed the diversion provided by Margaret’s use of English vernacular, you’ll surely enjoy the following: https://youtu.be/_ldgjn2tdKk
Please let me know if you laugh 😂 out loud, as I did. Quite brilliant and typically of the enjoyment I’ve repeatedly witnessed over many years of North American’s encouraging us Brits!
Margaret -- as one who muchly appreciates your literary talent and how you have used it so powerfully in this Battle -- and as a Brit -- we certainly do appreciate the artful, rhetorical use of the phrase “taking THE piss” to loosely mean “so ridiculous it is a (sick) joke”.
We normally only use the vulgar descriptor “taking A piss” to describe the actual action of relieving oneself of excess water, though typically only in relaxed social contexts (e.g. pubs), almost never in polite company, where the term “going to the toilet / loo” is more acceptable. 🤔
Haha, cheers, Dr. J.! I so appreciate you and your fellow Brits taking the time to elucidate the nuances of its usage!
I was amazed to discover that the English language has many more words than language of our near and dead neighbours, France 🇫🇷 in spite of certain shared origins. I think it may well be because the British 🇬🇧 language has expanded due to its imperial reach over the centuries, though I’m no expert on its development. What I do know is that I love the rich literary treasury that English vernacular offers.
It's partly that our history has gifted us with both low German, French and Latinate roots, and then an openness to pinching anything that takes our fancy from other languages. Makes English the best language for cryptic crosswords. 🙂🙂
I saw a German dictionary once and it was like 3 times the size of an English one. Maybe then something to do with English being a Germanic language.
German has a lot of really long words! 🤣 They tend to agglutinate to express meaning, sticking bits of words together to form new ones. We just pinch any words we find useful and add 'em to the glorious jumble. 🙂
But how many words did it contain? Maybe it had half as many words as an English dictionary but German words are longer and you need a whole paragraph to explain a simple concept.
Plus Germans can't just explain a simple concept, they need to explain all the exceptions and nuances as well.
Possibly, but I tend to think it comes from internal language diversification. For some reason, regions in our small island have a tendency to stubbornly hang on to and develop the language in their own colloquial. Occasionally, a witty/smart phrase/word will be picked up, crossover the boundaries and become part of the 'national' language.
Scouse(Liverpool), Geordie(Newcastle), Cockney(London), Yorkshire.. to name a few prominent variations.
I've lived in Yorkshire all my life and have a soft Yorkshire accent, yet there are areas of Yorkshire where I will struggle to understand what is being said.
I will say that Bob Moran has most brilliantly painted the phrase "Taking the Piss": https://www.bobmoran.co.uk/other-work/pissinformaation-original-artwork
That depiction of Taking A Piss is Taking The Piss?
Both! 😆
I adore Bob, and that is one of my favorites :-)
Thanks for the explanation as I was wondering what the witty phrase means.
Will the wonders of articles never cease?
I agree with you entirely. However, your profanity needs some work 😀
The expression should be, “Are you taking the piss?”
Taking a piss has a completely different meaning, similar to, “don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.”
I appreciate the language lessons 😹
It is absolutely driving me crazy trying to remember where that line comes from. I’ll let you know if I figure it out.
If the phrase is "Are you Having a Laugh" then it would be from Extras - he lands a spot on a show called "When the Whistle Blows" (fictitious) - this is his catch-phrase.
Yes indeed.
Side note: the phrase is "taking the piss". Taking a piss is the physical act. 🤣
We would say -
"Are you taking THE piss?"
Small difference but it is THE not A piss and if you flick your hands out palms up at the same time as saying THE then you will have it 100% perfect.
It's "taking the piss", not "taking a piss" (as in "taking the piss out of someone".)
Sorry - just my inner grammar nerd!
But otherwise a perfectly appropriate sentiment, perfectly expressed!
No need to apologize, Mara—I have a mammoth inner grammar nerd myself! And you certainly weren’t alone in pointing it out, so I’ve learned my lesson well and good now 😹
FYI - "As the Brits would say, “Are you taking a piss?!”
Actually, it's "Are you taking THE piss".
Haha, yes, every Brit on Igor’s Stack has clarified that distinction now 😆 I still blame the original source for miseducating us, if only we could figure it out …
The New York Times is clearly trying to make the old Soviet Pravda publication look honest and informative. Not exactly a worthwhile goal but given the rot in the Western media, not surprising either.
" the" piss, please 🤣😉
I think I've got it now 😂
Yes! Added words can completely change the meaning of a noun/verb. For example in American slang "to bust you ass" means usually to work really hard or to fall and hurt oneself, presumably by falling on one's rump*. In contrast, "to bust ass" properly means to commit a common body function that is by turns hilarious, embarrassing, and often room-clearing.
*Perhaps this explains why there's a big crack up the middle of it?
My wife unfortunately had a very bad health emergency, she stopped breathing. She was rushed to the hospital, the paramedic helping her breath as she was unconscious, the ER put her on a ventilator.
As I entered the ER I was met by the Chaplin and was prepared by her for the potential tragic news. The doctor asking about a DNR, I thought it was over.
Thankfully she recovered in a few days. Just like that she was back to normal. It was a surreal few days, of which I never want to experience again. The cause was a severe headache, they can become so bad that your brain turns off apparently. Who knew.
But, now the reason I am commenting. During that stay in the large hospital in Denver I noticed it was full, the ER was full, and the ICU, where my wife spent a couple of days, was full. People were in the hallways. Rooms were scarce.
I asked several nurses and docs why, their answer was everything. Flus, c19, other respiratory issues, then heart attacks and on and on.
So yes, things are not better, the c-19 is being hidden this time calling it flu, just the opposite of the past two years. I think we all know why we have a sicker society, they received a posion all at the same time.
Every single decision made by experts, government, healthcare, pharma, everyone was 100 percent wrong or lied. People were literally scared Into submission and listened to the supposedly truthful authorities. Hollywood helped, they made scary movies of viruses killing millions, the media scared us 24-7.
Everything that could be done to produce the worst outcomes was done in the name of science. Not one person allowed to speak or write told a different storyline, everything was choreographed by precision.
This can't be coincidence.
Than you for sharing, I hope your wife gets 100% of her health back, and a VERY interesting situation report.
You are right, it is not coincidence and the groundwork for this attack on all of us has been laid for a decade plus.
Listen to Dr. Mike Yeadon, among others. It's all intentional, to destroy our society and bring in the Great Reset.
Hang on folks. Keeping the lights on and food on the table may get tricky.
Excellent post! I am very sorry to hear a lot your wife - l suffered an almost identical experience a year back .. l am in Britain and pure blood .. l was told, we when l thankfully recovered, by a Private Consultant that l should look into INFLAMMATION and it’s causes - he pointed to my smartphone in my handbag and said “it’s that on a vast scale - go research” .. He was a Truth Speaker, but could, be SANCTIONED by the British Government as many Doctors and Consultants are finding out! I do hope your wife continues to keep in good health ...
Good to hear that your wife recovered!
I'm glad your wife is ok. Your observations are no doubt accurate. However, I'd like to play devil's advocate for just a moment. Although a patient might wish it otherwise, hospitals, emergency service and (especially) specialized care like the ICU are EXPENSIVE. As such, it is in the management's interest to maximize occupancy of those as much as practical. Obvious downside are that in a crisis these will be over-loaded. Major point: when such a crisis hits, locally or regional, even the smallest overflow will swamp the hospital system. Sensationaist media will then scream "Local hospital;s overrun! Patients in hallways! Mothers giving birth in their cars!" etc. Note that I'm not denying there is a problem, only emphasizing that there is very little buffer space between "normal operation, nothing unusual" and an (apparent, but perhaps handle-able) overflow.
This hospital is very large. The ICU alone is two floors. I also asked if this was normal. The answer was rarely if ever. Now, the Denver area has experienced an immigration surge of California, NY, other Blue states. So it would be expected that everything gets busier. But, several new hospitals have been built. The bed to population number is consistently the same I am told.
But, the consensus is more illness is amoung us. I saw my doc and he mentioned the same. They see more of everything. The reason they all give is because we were locked down and didn't get the immunity we needed from the last two years. Maybe some of that is true. But, if it is that would destroy the lockdown idea, right? They are admitting that locking down stops our immune system to learn.
It seems to me a whole new health crises has been created that they refuse to logically study. It seems they do not want a normal. They want a drastic change.
You punish people by take away their liberty and their livelihood and apply the boot to the neck UNTIL they relent and get pumped full of God knows what. Russian Roulette. Maybe it kills you now or later. Maybe you will be permanently disabled. Maybe you have no effects from the jab. But the jab wasn't take protect you or me or your grandma. It was to get you in line and to submit.
I hate them.
Igor, Hope the leg is healing nicely. Rather drastic way of getting out of housework.
Yea man. Best comment.
Covid was a scam from the beginning. One does not falsify medical data presented to the general public, suppress early treatments and turn ones citizens into walking bio-weapon factories if the intent was to do good.
"You will know them by their fruits, a bad tree cannot bear good fruit ... " - Jesus
And we are talking about some seriously bad trees.
Which tested positive for COVID, in that famous case in Africa for which the country’s president was arkancided.
with a side of mRNA-producing salad
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210916/Researchers-aim-to-develop-edible-plant-based-mRNA-vaccines.aspx
I fault those decisions years ago that faulted the farmers for patent infringement when their crops were contaminated with GMO from wind drift. If the farmers had been found faultless and could sue for the contamination of their organic crops, corporations would not have the free rein to experiment without liability.
Absolutely. In the early 2000's there were activist groups in France who would go out and destroy GM fields. Russ. apparently also banned GM crops to be grown.
That was also the era of Monsan. suing small companies who wrote on their label "GM-free". At the same time they tried to add a new definition of mental illness to the psychology DSM codes - someone who was picky about the purity what entered their body (as in, won't eat GM, and in today's equivalent won't take the vax.) This was also the era of the nightmare biolab disease Morgellons becoming a widespread problem, which they solved by labeling patients 'delusional' (problem doesn't exist) and moving the biolabs overseas-- still no answers, no justice for those people, no accountability for the creators of that nightmare.
Fast forward to today's situation.
What happened to Morgellons? Do people still suffer from it?
That's an excellent question. From what I understood of it at the time, and looking back with todays mRNA and unearthed docs regarding bio weapons and nano tech in the body.. I believe those suffering it were 'early' test subjects of *something* But they definitely WERE NOT delusional. It made me think of that Bible phrase.. about suffering boils and sores and wanting to die but not being able to, no matter how hard you wanted to...
Hope people will wake up to the freaking hoax. My 4 times jabbed brother (God bless his soul...) is on his third confirmed by nucleocapsid antigen test covid “infection”. Oh, Lord, slap them hard so they wake up....
sad!
Yep. In the “Health care provider” category. Folks, pray for them, who followed the orders; theirs are are the statistics.
My friend is a nurse and refused. Lost job. Now broke.
Hard to see this as anything but planned demolition.
Yes. The jabbed are sick and it's not just covid, a cold, rsv, it is all KINDS of things going wrong.
have friends with poorly baby under 1 ( covid, tonsils, then tum- mum jabbed when pg), a friends son who is also our friend died at 30, a teen boy friend of cous son died suddenly, also a baby ( friend of colleague) in hosp with "rsv" and another sporty teen boy, a friend of colleague just died " from strep a" . there are about 45 more known to me and close friends/ fam, lots of strokes, heart issues, cancer. some died fast( 2 brain). about 5 new parkinsons. I don't have THAT big a circle to be honest. New diabetes, hair loss. agh. could go on.
Utterly heartbreaking my friend .. when we see “it” laid out on the table within a circle of family and friends of ONE PERSON it is beyond chilling ..
Can you give an idea of general location? I have heard more bad news from east coast and mid west than western states. I am curious about geo distribution of harms.
UK
So sorry (I wasn't awake enough to recognize your UK-style writing :). Have friends in Yorkshire and I have not been able to convince them to stop. Believe they are on #4 or #5 now. Last response I got -
'Cos it’s absolute TOSH ... According to REAL Data from ONS there have only been 15 recorded deaths in UK due entirely to covid vaccine, , and NO deaths in under 35 age group! These people pull out and interpret statistics to suit their own cause, and are totally irresponsible. 51 million fully vaccinated in UK – Radical guy [Maajid Nawaz] reckons up to 1 in 73 have died due to vaccine – that’s nearly ¾ of a million UK citizens have died entirely due to the vaccine – don’t you think we’d have heard about that in newspapers etc. (or is that a conspiracy of silence too!) We are going for our boosters on Sunday! Hope you are well and GET BOOSTED, it’s the way forward you know👌😘
I keep trying but it certainly is difficult. And sad. And mostly scary. I do not want to lose all these people in my life.
In total agreement with that - let’s look at the impact of 5. g and the unbelievable “electrification” of the planet and then .. 🤔 add in what is coming down at you and getting into acquifiers and on the food chain - couple that lot together with an unrelenting Psyops and 24/7 Government Propaganda delivered by none other than the BBC .. the fear, the CHAOS and NOW we watch CHILDREN DYING in Britain .. from “Scarlet Fever and diphtheria” due to them not “having an immune response to deal with the illness” They are beginning .. trickle trickle trickle to let THE NEWS OUT that everyone other than the sheep and headless chicken have known for years - They are offering VERY GENEROUS RELOCATION PACKAGES to
❌THE ☠️ VACCINATORS❌ Favoured place is currently Southern Ireland on the West coast and West coast of Scotland. NO GP or NURSE will be safe! I have a dear friend who works in Search and Rescue who has been a very reliable “source” to many, taking huge risks to get the information out! Then .. don’t we all? 🤔 I am a true activist and know the cost .. l will never be defeated only by the ultimate! KEEP GOING all you wonderful and selfless brothers and sisters who STILL after 3 years are REFUSING TO COMPLY and passing vital information to required sources! I really love all of you!
Mild? I don't know about that. A woman I know, who is unjabbed, got reinfected at the beginning of this year 3 weeks after her first bout. Now she complains of forgetfulness, a lack of focus and mental clarity and extreme fatigue, similar to that seen in some jab injury victims. It never occurred to her that she could have long covid, which reportedly can result in a "mild cognitive impairment" similar to that often seen in pre-dementia. As for China's admittedly despotic approach, let's keep things in perspective. They did not mandate jabs. Compare China with the Dems. 48% of Dems wanted imprisonment for those who question the jab and nearly 1 in 3 Dems wanted the children of the unjabbed removed from their care.
I work at a college. One of the international students from Hong Kong said she had to show evidence of three shots to go to church. She also said they started the same thing with children ages 5-11. They may not have mandated it but they coerced their citizens into taking the jabs just like here.
That is not what I was told by colleagues with relatives in China. My understanding is that everyone was mandated to get the local jabs. They have avoided the MRNA magic juice but their SinoVac option has apparently as a consistent side effect - leukaemia - which affects all ages. BTW, not surprised that the Demonrats were agitating to "punish" those resisting the jabs - they were mostly on the right and that was making them subhuman enemies to be destroyed. Bolshevik in mentality, through and through.
To some extent maybe but it could just be a fake poll put out by one of the propaganda agencies.
Sir Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Valance, the main men in charge of the UK virus response, have admitted that the interventions they imposed on the UK have already directly resulted in significant excess deaths, and that these excess death are going to keep happening for some time to come, again directly due to their policies [daily mail article].
Perhaps the starkest example of this are the tragic cases of the children who have died recently due to strep A infections, which, if we are to believe the experts, is likely due the kids being left vulnerable, because they were not exposed to the usual range of viruses and bacteria during the interventions. This lack of the normal "priming" left them with weakened immune system.
This is on top of the children who have previously unexpectedly died from hepatitis and RSV, which again according to the doctors at the time, was due to the lack of normal "priming" exposures leaving the kids vulnerable. All this in the name of disease which kids have virtually zero risk from.
These two knights of the realm also admit that the interventions have damaged the development and prospects of a whole generation of our children.
Personally, I don't want to live in society in which kids end up dying or being damaged in the name of protecting adults, especially when most of the adults at high risk were in there 80s.
Particularly when, as these two "sirs" also admit, their policies also abjectly failed to even protect those most vulnerable adults group, and indeed, self-admittedly, actually put them in harm’s way due to their bungled handling of the care home situation - I live in a care home and saw first hand the deaths of lots of residents die due to their policies.
Neither do I want to be part of a culture which is busy normalizing the sexualization of children/childhood, accepting of the unnecessary medicalization of children, or now legalizing the euthanasia of kids [according to proposed new euthanasia laws in Canada, Belgium, but coming soon to a country near you too].
These acceptances of harms to kids are all of a piece, and speak to a rancid sickness at the heart of our culture.
We were repeatedly told the purpose of the interventions was to “Save Lives” and “Save the National Health Service”. They abjectly failed to do either, as we now have a NHS broken and on its knees, and even more people dying due to the ongoing lack of access, even for GP appointments.
What is even worse, is that these two psychopaths say they would do it all again!!! They should be jailed, and never put in positions of authority ever again, but instead we give them knighthoods for their "services". Another sign of a very sick society.
Those 2 murderers of the realm enabled child sacrifice. Plain and simple. So what should happen to those 2? Confession doesn’t mean absolution, does it. I agree I’m repulsed and sickened by the maltreatment and assault of children.
The current state of play seems to be that all the objections to lockdowns and similar NPI that were being made by sane people in 2020 – but were dismissed at that time as the anti-Science ravings of selfish, Trump-loving granny killers – are now being adopted by the covidian establishment (without any acknowledgment of who was right and who was wrong about lockdowns in 2020) as an explanation for the troubling new normal of widespread degraded health that seems to be emerging. Basically, they’re saying that jam-packed hospitals and decreasing lifespans now are the result of missed cancer screenings and some immunity “debt” acquired over a few weeks or months in 2020-2021.
And I guess they’ll ride that horse as far as it will carry them, rather than confront the possibility of population-wide vaxx injuries.
Agreed, some of this is a limited hangout to deflect from jab harms.
AMEN to everything you have spoken ..
Heh, have you had a look at the judges around world? "Your honour" is the common way to address them and very few know what honourable means.
Knighted by a TYRANNICAL, COLONISING, SLAVE TRADING and THIEVING .. Monarchy! The Monarchy, the Aristocracy and the ruling Elites have not changed for many hundreds of years in Britain - just take a look at their castles and lands (estates of over 32,000 acres) Their AGENDA has simply moved forward and allied itself with other European countries, the US, Australia, Canada etc ..
Although it's a topic for a different discussion, many famous thinkers would disagree. Nietzsche for one, and with whom I'm most familiar, favored an aristocracy and was rather dubious of liberal democracy. I'd have to say the intervening 130(+) years have proven him right. Now don't get me wrong, I love my (American) concept of a constitutional republic, but like many think it lost its way. At the time it was an innovation: a republic that rejected monarchy and hereditary nobility; one that would be ruled by land-owning free males (presumably educated too). More on this point below. Nietzsche (and perhaps others ) note that democracy never lasts, it eventually decays into something worse, anarchy or despotism of one flavor or another. One symptom of a society as it declines is the quest for ever more wrongs to right. For example, consider the expansion of the right to vote over a few centuries. Using the USA history, first it was only wealthy educated males. Eventually the franchise expanded more to include all males, even freed slaves. Last came women about a century ago. Half a century ago, it was slightly expanded so that instead of age 21, people vote at 18. Today many States allow (most) convicted felons the vote. There is advocacy to allow non-citizens a vote. I think this is already done for some local and state elections. What next? Pets? Major point: there is only so far the reformer can go. Eventually you get to points of diminishing returns and/or absurdity. We are already well down the chute. I don't know the final end, but I suspect it won't be pretty.
It is worse than that - many known pedophiles have been knighted, like Sir Jimmy Saville.
Is this the same delusional logic as the cvd virus having arrived in Wuhan with frozen food from overseas....They would bury the whole train carriages to hide the accident.
Whilst many world leaders try to evade their responsibility by blaming China and their communist style of control.
What have they done in their own counties during this pandemic?
China is not the only villain here.
Might not even be the biggest villain
US government is the biggest villain.
Along with the UK!
🎯
Don’t you think it’s time we stopped talking about distinct, individual governments?
China is a WHO member same like the rest. They are world bank, IMF etc. franchises in deep debt. Nothing to do with any nations really. Bit like how McDonalds will put Portugues olive oil with their salads in Portugal to try and make it seem more Portugues but really it is a muli national franchise. If you go in France it will say 100% French beef but that is just coz that is the nearest supplier for McDonalds there.
The US government created and funded the coronavirus. Work started at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and then shipped off to China because of the moratorium.
NIH funding documents prove it.
We are the baddies.
And it looks like the DoD behind it.
Although I don't know the details DoD has funded dodgy "vaccine" research for years, probably decades. Mentioned in the RFK book. Also Whitney Webb writes about it. US law basically permits service members to be guinea pigs without their consent. I've never heard a claim that such extended to civilians, but perhaps I'm just old-fashioned. They had plenty of issues with anthrax vaccines.
Some it is no doubt hush-hush, but plenty isn't. Here's a DoD web page:
https://www.darpa.mil/program/pandemic-prevention-platform
They have changed the law over the years in orders to facilitate this big cvd theatre.
My understanding is these injections are designed by the DoD thus being classed as 'prototypes', not pharmaceutical products under the EUA. Pharma are only their suppliers. Hence all the other official entities have technically no responsibility to regulate and monitor safety efficacy so on so forth. They are just pretending to be doing the job - that's why they are not taking action.
The HHS secretary is also given the authority to allow this operation to happen.
Pls refer to Team Enigma & Sasha or Katharine Watt (paralegal) on Substack. They detail issues on the legal side.
Curiously the same Federal law that allows "the President" to order that troops receive an injection requires the government to inform the service member or his next of kin within 30 days of what the shot was.
'Operation' warp speed - under 'a public health emergency'. It gives the authority to the HHS secretary to make a final decision whether or not sufficient safety data is available. No need to go thru the Prez.
It's treated as a 'counter measure'.
Ref to 21 U.S. code § 360bbb-4
Countermeasure development...
Out of curiosity, was the same fed law you mentioned, applied when the notorious anthrax jabs rolled out to the service members?
Informing them of what the shot was means they would be informed of the ingredients too?
Yes.
$60 Billion dollars contribution from the US l heard am l right?
Not sure of the exact amount.
NIH probably shredded or scrubbed lots of the funding documents.
Well, it was Fauci who subcontracted his dirty work, that got banned in the US, to the Chinese. China is the main villain at first but the US big Harma took over once the jabs became available.
Maybe or maybe not.
https://expose-news.com/2022/05/18/us-dod-covid-research-contract-nov-2019/
If the pandemic was handled incompetently and self-servingly, it only makes sense that the post-pandemic would be also. Let the gaslighting continue!
It does seem hard to get a handle on how serious covid is now. As a paramedic, I am seeing covid and possible covid cases , but not to the extent and severity as at the height of the pandemic.
I'm still wondering if Gert VanDenBosch will end up being right about a really virulent varient reeking havoc on the vaccinated. Guess we'll know by the end of the winter.
BTW, I am one of the unjabbed who had one case mild case and no lingering effects.
Have you considered the effects of electromagnetic radiation and electrification and of course Graphene oxide in the PCR and Vax? I find it enormously illuminating that if you take a map of where the Cell towers are in the UK then overlay another showing the highest outbreaks of covid .. you get an almost perfect match ..
Cell towers are in highest populated areas...
I do not beleive for one second China has changed their tune but rather given the impression they have simply to inflict even harsher restrictions - this uprising should've happened long ago - the fact that it finally and only happened now is a tell tale sign of far worse to come! Until they burn the Country down and overthrow the government - it will remain unchanged. Strictly my opinion.
Even if they did back off lockdowns, they have the "magic pass" on everyone's phones, and still trackable, still controllable..
That's an interesting perspective.
If we think back to the last major protests against China in, oh, late 2019 - Hong Kong, also supported by Western Media - those were conveniently shut down when a novel Corona Virus appeared from a market......
As of yesterday, they have NOT changed.
yeah, indeed.
Agreed. The only to get rid of communists is all out war with no hesitation. Why? Because they have no problem with eradicating entire sections of the population - for them power is essential not matter the cost. In short, it is you or them.
I think there have been major “rumblings in the jungle” for many years now .. the majority of Chinese people have NEVER been “privately loyal” to their Totalitarian Government - much like the one developing in Britain. I lived for some years in Hong King and travelled to China regularly - in the course of which many Chinese people spoke openly to me .. There is something way beyond horror that we are about to see happen in China .. we have mass crematoria here now in Britain .. Putin will need to drop a “short life targeted nuke” to deal with the resulting effects of this barbarism ..
The past two years have boldly shown the stark difference between those who depend on "science" to maintain their well-being and those who maintain their health to maintain their well-being.
The lying, deceit and manipulation of the medical community which depend on pushing sponsored drugs for their income will not cease even if government manipulation of health insurance is ended.
It continues to amaze me how many still believe with religious fervor a paper mask can protect "themselves and others" from a virus which escaped a Level 4 BioLab.
No doubt, many are drastically affected by the virus, and I do have sympathy, but the promulgated cure exponentially causes problems where likely none previously existed.
Well said. As I (and others) say in so many different ways: a systemic "illness" for which, alas there is no ready cure or even treatment, is the pervasive LYING and putting profits before science and, in many cases, even health and lives. Short term the best I can offer -- at least what I'm pivoting to in my own life -- is to be skeptical of the entire medical field, any of their claims and so on. To the maximum extent possible, do NOT trust your doctor at face value. If possible, verify any advocated drug or treatment you are unfamiliar with. I'm not saying all treatment is worthless (e.g. I still see a dentist and will take antibiotics as needed). But if a doctor ever tried to tell me to get a Covid-19 shot I would fire him. I've already gotten wise to certain treatments that I was duped into (statins, blood pressure, aspirin) that i've discovered are statistically useless. I've yet to have a confrontation with my docs on these, but I'm going off them with or without their approval, let the chips fall where they may. For this white boy, I won't be ingesting anything that i haven't checked out beforehand. I'll make an exception for emergency care, but routine? I'm watching them like a hawk.
Likewise, I have become wise to statins and aspirin claims.
Getting my doctor to check my Vitamin D levels almost requires giving a full dutch rub!
He always manages to "forget" to check the box. From all the writings, I'm thinking it is much more than "forgetting". This "forgetting" been an ongoing fight for over three years now. Amazingly, he averages "remembering" about once per year.
I called him out on the statins. He pulls out his smart phone and looks up the life expectancy at my age (65) using statins. Came out to a whole seven months. And I'm in excellent health. None of this co-morbidity stuff. My BP has been high since my teens so the doctors always are pushing statins, et al. Nothing works. He's had his heart attack and I'm older than him. I remind him I'm the stroke guy. Dad and Mom made it into high 80s and didn't die of heart failure or stroke!
I'm with you on the emergency room stuff. In an emergency, we're all kind of at the mercy of whatever they decide to put in the IV - in our best interests, of course. I'm certain they mean well, but, like my old flight instructor said: When they clear you for take-off, look! If someone lands on top of you, you'll be dead. The guys in the tower will only be sorry.
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps one of the biggest "moments of epiphany" I had when looking under the hood, at critical books and/or the studies themselves, is how little these drugs actually have to offer (as primary prevention). I usually compute all-cause deaths and it's minuscule. Added time of life is another way to look at the data, but it's hard to calculate and NEVER mentioned in the study. Recently I looked at a blood pressure lowering meta-analysis (this one, freely available)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00590-0/fulltext
The median age in this analysis was about 65 and lots of the people had prior health issues. Even so, I calculated the reduction in all-cause mortality (to me, the most important figure) : In those with NO history of cardio-vascular disease, that difference was a whopping 0.18%. For those with a history of, it was 0.14%. The overall death rates were about double what a "normal" 65-year-old's should be; I attribute that to the unhealthy enrolled in the trials.
I do not deny that hypertension and statin meds do what's claimed. Trials -- all I've seen -- normally DO show an improvement in CVD events or deaths, but even there the absolute reduction is quite modest. Apparently they do have their legitimate medical uses. But for primary prevention in people with no history of trouble? While they do tend to reduce heart attack, stroke, etc. the overall death rate (and date) hardly budges. Very counter-intuitive, but this result shows up in nearly all studies. Statistically, being on one of these regimens might add a few weeks or months to your life expectancy. No thanks, I'll take the slightly shorter life and be free of the inevitable side effects these drugs have, thank you very much, doctor!
A final quirk in my "meta-meta-analysis": In the "no history of" group, the lowest overall death rates were in the cohort with quite high blood pressure (160-169 systolic). This held true for both "intervention" and "comparator." This anomaly did not occur in the "prior history" group. I suspect a flaw of some type in the the data. I don't think even the crackpots are claiming that Stage 2 hypertension reduces the risk of death in healthy people, but there is the data.
Great post! AMEN!
“YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR WEALTH” has always been my mantra and that never cache out of a bottle or a pill box - just eating good Organic food, exercising regularly, sleeping well, keeling a good routine, socialising and stimulating my mind .. leading pretty much an Ayurvedic lifestyle .. Not too difficult l think!
The two main lessons learned.
1- Every government will try some shit, but tuck their tail and run the second the people get fed up.
2- The amount of shit people will tolerate before they get fed up is mind boggling….
The left needs two or three more shots and we are free from them.
I know many liberals who have shot their kids 6 times already. The flouride in toothpaste makes these kids sick.
I just accepted it is Gods will. Let it be.
Then you will surely believe “The Anti-Christ” walks among us ..
Yes, as near to zero Fluoride is essential .. there are many toothpastes without it Dr Bronners is good .. YOUR WATER? It’s a question l have wanted to ask for a long time .. what are you and others doing about getting as close to “pure” as possible?
I bought a Berkey Gravjfy Fed water filtration unit .. and used 4 black filters and two Fluoride filters - was stunned when l tested the water .. it was leaching our aluminium .. so now holds a shred that is refusing to die!
Reverse Osmosis is great and reasonably effective, if you live in a soft water area - if not a water softener must be fitted to household supply ..
Distillation is steamy, provides a huge amount of heat and not a lot of water - also needs re-energising with essential minerals as these are removed during distillation - Pink Himalayan salt used to be good but now mined in areas with high heavy metal deposits - next is Celtic Sea Salt .. slightly better .. Distillation will remove 99.9% of TDS and most everything else .. but not sure about Fluoride?
Mineral water is a huge NO now .. PELLAGRINO have stated on bottle in ingredients “Strontium” 🤔 among so many other negative additives ..
So that leaves us with tap water 😂 mine is so chlorinated you have to leave the room if the tap is run for long .. and what are they covering up - makes me shudder! As l know!!
Tap Water. Ugh. What you poop in today, you drink tomorrow!
Luckily i live in a rural area and have a well that runs off solar and lithium with a reverse osmosis filter. Its great.
Next year, I take the house offgrid, get two more dogs and 2000 rounds for the AR. The property is fenced, security cams and alarms.
I cant remember the philosopher, but when he was asked what he wanted to be when he grew up he said, "I want to be assassinated by my Government. That way I know for sure my life meant something."
Its time to be tough. Weak men make hard times.
If only it were this simple. I have no problem with people jabbing themselves - it is a personal choice (insane choice but it is theirs). However, they see it as a problem that people like me do not want to join them into their rush to oblivion.
Agreed. All you can do is arm yourself and wait for the day you are in the Alamo.
Biden day one started the process to create a Treaty with the WHO where if the WHO decides their is a health issue of concern can invade any country and do anything it wants with the help of UN troops. The treaty gives up sovereignty. This is obviously Treason.
Also: my brother in law is dealing with some circulatory problem involving his legs. Triple injected (cuz he had to travel to Mexico for golfing and shit like that). Prayers welcome. Had some pre-Wuhan flu surgery on the legs, so it could be unrelated... but...
I just watched Died Suddenly and can't get the image of all the clots being pulled out of dead peoples legs out of mind.
out of dead people's legs.
dead being the crux..
laying on a cold slab for some days will do strange things to physiology...
No, I used to photograph autopsies and those clots are not caused by a dead body sitting around too long.
so in the past you were present at autopsies, and that fact alone makes that you claim those clots are not caused by a dead body sitting around too long.
really?
and how would you know how long a body has to be dead to form those clots?
you still did photograph autopsies after the clotshots started?
did any of those autopsies show the clots?
after how much time after death do the clots show up?
Why the pissing attitude? You have an agenda.
He does.
sure, i do have an agenda.
it is to expose ignorance wherever i see it.
The embalmers have been quite clear in saying they NEVER saw this type of clotting prior to 2021. A normal process from the body sitting too long is ruled out. The question is is there something about either covid or the vaccines that causes this, either pre or post mortem? Questions medicine should want answers to but doesn't.
you got the crux...
there are no such clots before death.
maybe the realisation comes that the clots may come about only sometime after death.
autopsies do not find the clots.
embalmers do.
autopsies generally are performed shortly after death.
embalmings usually some time later.
and in the meantime the clots form.
no clots found prior to 2021 rules out covid as the cause.
and very few doctors would want to risk their career in finding that the shots cause the clots...
No, you're probably wrong. Even if you never worked in a mortuary, and most of us probably haven't, anyone should be able to understand that to embalm a cadaver, they need to inject embalming fluid into (probably) an artery and at the same time, allow the old blood to drain out. If the blood "normally" clotted at death, that would be obviously impossible, wouldn't it? Would you not concede this rather lends credibility to the undertakers in the "Died Suddenly" video explaining it, and why massive clots impede their task? I believe they comment too that the long clots are NOT comprised of clotted blood, but obviously I have noway to verify that claim.
the blood vessels are rinsed to flush them out before they are filled with embalming fluid.
the long clots probably will turn out to be amyloid structures.
Please watch Dr Ryan Cole on Dr Drew. What you are saying is very misleading.
That's really the crux of the matter. When and how do these unprecedented structures form?
Since this story broke over the last year, the medical establishment has been completely incurious about answering those questions. As they have been for two years about anything that could reveal problems with the vaccines. THAT'S the issue.
Watch Dr Cole on Dr Drew.
Igor, thanks again for your honest posts. You always make me rethink my opinions. Good service.
Since I don't know many unjabbed people, I just can speak from my experience: I haven't gotten COVID yet, took ivermectin prophylactically 9 month last year and take 48mg every three weeks. I have traveled a lot and have close maskless close to face contact with at least 15-20 people everyday. All people I know gotten COVID already. Some friends jabbed (sinovac) had it super strong for 14 days. Then three days after recovery got the throat ache back and couldn't clear it. Kind of a rebound. One friend finally took the ivermectin i gave him last year and the throat ache immediately cleared up.
Now he traveled with 4 people all got COVID but he not. All mRNA jabbed get it more then once, that's really is obvious i would say.
Some get really sick, vomiting, cannot get up, muscle ache for days on end. So I agree with you it's not over and not really mild. But certainly not pandemic level.
Very interesting! Thanks a lot
I had heart issues and a short-term stroke from Sinovac. I've only had the one dose, my wife has 3. We both took around 14 days to clear a recent infection, and I do feel like it's come back as a low-level fatigue and chestiness.
Just throwing that in there.
Sinovac is that a traditional vaccine, is that MRNA?
Deactivated full-virus type, a more traditional approach. None are a good idea but I figured it would be safer than mRNA (and still think it probably is)
Safer, I think so.
Seems another coincidence that the Chinese are not taking a deadly MRNA vaccine.
The S-protein antibody response from the whole virus vaccines (Sinovac, Coronavac, Turkovac) is only 10% of that from the Pfizer vaccine. If damage from spike protein is dose dependent that would suggest less damage from the traditional vaccines...but not zero damage.
A severe COVID infection is also going to result in S-protein in blood stream causing damage. The difference is that if you have a strong immune system you will fight off COVID in your airways before it gets into the blood stream.
So spike in the blood is always bad but there are going to be degrees of damage.
Totally agree. Some people keep talking about the need to aspirate the needle (a test withdrawal to check for blood before pushing the plunger in), and that probably would make a difference for something like Sinovac, but little difference to the lipid nano-particle type. LNPs will go everywhere almost immediately anyway
Yes, live virus based as far as I know.
So you are also in Asia?
Yes
In a REAL PANDEMIC Hazmat suits and ancillary breathing equipment would be required. FACT. Just take a look at Cat 4 Lab workers. The masks people generally wore were nothing more than muzzles and many were impregnated with graphene oxide .. they were totally USELESS and laughable .. Hope you continue to stay fit 🤞
But we know now that only 6% or less of those who died actually died of covid due to manipulation of death certificates, flu disappearing, monetizing treatment and actual death in hospitals by calling not Covid deaths covid to get _$$. Bad PCR tests, fiddling statistics--the whole ball of now melting wax. So the true lethality of the pandemic was wildly and deliberately overstated. Probably actually no more than a more lethal flu season. manipulated PCR testing overcounted the “cases”. I knew no one who died nor even got covid until omicron. Even my senior friends. Will we ever know for sure the true story. Sigh.