Everyone. Everyone here played the "duck our own individual heads & hope this doesn't happen to anyone WE know" game. Everyone knew in advance that lobbying leads here, pretended to themselves that it didn't.
Now we're here.
The fact that everyone avoids naming the people on this list http://allaregreen.us/ as complicit, yet also says defensively "they won't arrest themselves or allow us to succeed" shows everyone is doing this knowingly.
Now, no one can change the past, but we can move forward. The only way anyone can help those harmed is by removing the only impediments to getting them help & I helpfully suggested FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS we can do this.
You find my trying to help STRANGE? Yeah... the notion of holding the Authority Figures one reveres accountable always sounds so bizarre to people.
Many haven't been ducking their heads, Michael Freed. Many have been in this fight for years, decades in fact - people like Barbara Loe Fisher (nvic.org) who's been at it for 40 years, organizations like Children's Health Defense (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/), physicians like pediatrician Dr. Paul Thomas. Parents have been showing up at government agency hearings, legislative hearings, and their representatives' offices. Anyone who's not already involved, it's time!
How can I dumb this down enough for people? Screaming AT or ABOUT A Problem does NOT cause Mommy and Daddy to come remove the problem for you IN ADULTHOOD! The PUBLIC isn't your Mommy, and 'Government' isn't your Daddy!
Ergo informing the public does nothing, & 'Daddy' has already taken the corporate $ & decided to push the jabs! You know what your example Barbara Loe Fisher is doing?
The same thing everyone ELSE is doing! Informing the public & begging 'Government' as if it is a separate, Incorruptible Living Being from the politicians RUNNING it & waiting for Mommy &/or Daddy to remove the problem FOR her!
Now: express it in a % or whole number, however you please: how CAN any number of politicians act against the corporations lobbying them & survive career-wise? What are the chances that THEY don't understand they can't do that? What will the other politicians do when they try & how many Americans will support them if they do?
The same number of Americans that stood up for Chelsea Manning or Julian Assange? Or less? How about Dr. Andrew Wakefield?
The ONLY PEOPLE CAPABLE OF holding American politicians accountable are YOU: & YOU are ALL waiting for someone ALREADY IN AUTHORITY to fix things FOR you! & the only people who CAN do that have already taken the lobbying $.
Do you not SEE the circle that you, Barbara & every "activist movement" is always thinking in? Your STARTING PREMISE is false: the conclusions you come to based UPON them are erroneous. In all human history, not one time when the leaders decided A did merely bleating about it without following up with actions AGAINST THE DECISION-MAKERS cause anything to CHANGE!
Now: remind me again what follow-up actions anyone "fighting" this are organizing, taking part in or enacting? Right, they're just publishing MORE info to bring to the attention of the public & begging corrupt politicians who have ALREADY TAKEN the $ & cannot vote against those paying it to please vote against those paying it, then waiting for "someone" to simply remove the problems "somehow."
Great Plan. Without ANY threat or incentive or push-back from the public, you're all waiting for THESE people http://allaregreen.us/ to voluntarily reject THESE amounts http://allaregreen.us/ of $. & you're calling THIS "fighting back?"
Ding! Oh; Lobbying $ won in a knockout. Next round or fight? Ding! Oh; Guess who won before the fight started?
There no "fighting." There's begging with no hope of succeeding being CALLED "fighting by people who DON'T WANT TO FACE the adult responsibility of holding their authority figures accountable, & continuing to refuse to do so.
HOW does informing the public lead to the public taking any actions to end the harmful policies? How does it cause politicians to overturn their decisions or arrest themselves? HOW does any of this "fighting" you are referring to CAUSE ANY CHANGE to occur?
WHY are you "adults" living in a wish-fulfillment fantasy that allows them to continue killing children? What do YOU all GAIN from doing so?
Uh, who exactly are you talking to here? Do you even recognize the thread you’re on?
Everyone. Everyone here played the "duck our own individual heads & hope this doesn't happen to anyone WE know" game. Everyone knew in advance that lobbying leads here, pretended to themselves that it didn't.
Now we're here.
The fact that everyone avoids naming the people on this list http://allaregreen.us/ as complicit, yet also says defensively "they won't arrest themselves or allow us to succeed" shows everyone is doing this knowingly.
Now, no one can change the past, but we can move forward. The only way anyone can help those harmed is by removing the only impediments to getting them help & I helpfully suggested FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS we can do this.
You find my trying to help STRANGE? Yeah... the notion of holding the Authority Figures one reveres accountable always sounds so bizarre to people.
Many haven't been ducking their heads, Michael Freed. Many have been in this fight for years, decades in fact - people like Barbara Loe Fisher (nvic.org) who's been at it for 40 years, organizations like Children's Health Defense (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/), physicians like pediatrician Dr. Paul Thomas. Parents have been showing up at government agency hearings, legislative hearings, and their representatives' offices. Anyone who's not already involved, it's time!
How can I dumb this down enough for people? Screaming AT or ABOUT A Problem does NOT cause Mommy and Daddy to come remove the problem for you IN ADULTHOOD! The PUBLIC isn't your Mommy, and 'Government' isn't your Daddy!
Ergo informing the public does nothing, & 'Daddy' has already taken the corporate $ & decided to push the jabs! You know what your example Barbara Loe Fisher is doing?
The same thing everyone ELSE is doing! Informing the public & begging 'Government' as if it is a separate, Incorruptible Living Being from the politicians RUNNING it & waiting for Mommy &/or Daddy to remove the problem FOR her!
Now: express it in a % or whole number, however you please: how CAN any number of politicians act against the corporations lobbying them & survive career-wise? What are the chances that THEY don't understand they can't do that? What will the other politicians do when they try & how many Americans will support them if they do?
The same number of Americans that stood up for Chelsea Manning or Julian Assange? Or less? How about Dr. Andrew Wakefield?
The ONLY PEOPLE CAPABLE OF holding American politicians accountable are YOU: & YOU are ALL waiting for someone ALREADY IN AUTHORITY to fix things FOR you! & the only people who CAN do that have already taken the lobbying $.
Do you not SEE the circle that you, Barbara & every "activist movement" is always thinking in? Your STARTING PREMISE is false: the conclusions you come to based UPON them are erroneous. In all human history, not one time when the leaders decided A did merely bleating about it without following up with actions AGAINST THE DECISION-MAKERS cause anything to CHANGE!
Now: remind me again what follow-up actions anyone "fighting" this are organizing, taking part in or enacting? Right, they're just publishing MORE info to bring to the attention of the public & begging corrupt politicians who have ALREADY TAKEN the $ & cannot vote against those paying it to please vote against those paying it, then waiting for "someone" to simply remove the problems "somehow."
Great Plan. Without ANY threat or incentive or push-back from the public, you're all waiting for THESE people http://allaregreen.us/ to voluntarily reject THESE amounts http://allaregreen.us/ of $. & you're calling THIS "fighting back?"
Ding! Oh; Lobbying $ won in a knockout. Next round or fight? Ding! Oh; Guess who won before the fight started?
There no "fighting." There's begging with no hope of succeeding being CALLED "fighting by people who DON'T WANT TO FACE the adult responsibility of holding their authority figures accountable, & continuing to refuse to do so.
HOW does informing the public lead to the public taking any actions to end the harmful policies? How does it cause politicians to overturn their decisions or arrest themselves? HOW does any of this "fighting" you are referring to CAUSE ANY CHANGE to occur?
WHY are you "adults" living in a wish-fulfillment fantasy that allows them to continue killing children? What do YOU all GAIN from doing so?