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Rustam's avatar

A small child can understand this logically.

When I moved from UK to work in USA back in 2004 for a while - I was extremely shocked to find out that childhood vaccines were mandated by schools. I still believed in these vaccines back then but: 1) I thought everyone accepted that coerced injections were unethical and strictly illegal; 2) it clearly didn't make sense that the vaccinated kids would be at risk from the unvaccinated.

Glad I returned to UK - its been unacceptably crazy and fucked up demented here also - but still far less so than USA and Canada where I would have been fired in 2021.

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Rustam's avatar

Another thing - "anti vaxxers" used to always be liberal left-wing middle class soccer-moms wearing clogs and dungarees and shopping at whole-foods - as did freedom of speech anti-censorship advocates (and anti corporatists). How did this get redefined as "right wing" overnight.

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Tom's avatar

Look at google trends. Look to see when "anti-vaxxer" searches were conducted. This will correlate with the spreading of memes.

Memes were spread at a specific time interval for a specific purpose.

Beliefs are being managed.

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shibumi's avatar

I have a left wing friend who only eats wild caught salmon and other health conscious foods, will not get a flu shot, shops at whole foods, but has happily been jabbed at least two or three times.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Her true frequency was found out to be victim consciousness. They didn't make the cut. They could pretend to be health conscious but this was just them following other authorities.

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Mckeekitty's avatar

In my small orbit the health conscious were the FIRST to submit to this garbage...

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Tom's avatar

They are health conscious because they fear death.

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GLK's avatar

You’re asking the right questions. And the answers are not comforting. The ability to switch public opinion overnight has been refined to an art. Military grade. What we’ve witnessed these last three years should scare you. The injections are only one element of the psyops. Additionally, they’ve learned a lot more than they knew before putting us to the test. Most people have no idea how deeply they’ve been manipulated.

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Ray Alford's avatar

More accurate: NO one knows the extent of the manipulation we have been put to. God alone can conceive it.

r

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Tom's avatar

I have been exercising some phrases quite a bit lately.

Military grade.

State sponsored.

And so forth . . .

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Rustam's avatar

It has taught me very sad and discouraging lesson about the human race. (Which we should have already known from WWII and Stanley Milgram experiments).

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Ray Alford's avatar

All the wars were contrived. The Revolutions as well. Every known evil has its origin in the sinfulness of mankind, which has been the "war" of wars ever since the "fall" of Adam in the Garden. But God, in His Grace and Goodness has supplied us weaklings with a viable means to overcome sin in our temporal life. The Holy Spirt was given this world to do just that. A "Comforter" in the sense of peace and promise, and a "helper in time of need" in the sense of enabling humanity to change into a "new creature" and refrain from sinning against God's Law. And as a BONUS enticement, He has promised eternal life to the over-comers! What a beneficent God we serve, worship and obey!

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Earth is a school/prison. The good guys lost. The bad guys won. And the slaves think they are free now. The war of the wannabe gods, thousands of years ago, now humans have grown up free of such influences, but still trapped. For the agents of the dark gods are still on Earth and have been granted dominion ever since the wannabe false gods were forced to leave.

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Ray Alford's avatar

Contraire, my brother!

It might APPEAR that all is lost, but Jesus has WON the battle with Satan previously and fully. That fact allows us (as it is granted us in Holy Scripture) to lean on HIS attainments, NOT our own, and fully acknowledge our insufficiency in the matter, and also very importantly to refrain from further sinning to the best of our abilities.

The Truth regarding the entire matter that you have put to words, is available to become the "sorter" of falsehoods and misinterpretations, and the identifier of Truth. I speak of the Holy Scriptures and the "Spirit of Prophecy" given to E.G. White by the Holy Ghost, and for our edification and clarification of the said Scriptures.

If a tenet or doctrine conflicts with the Bible, it is of no value except to fortify those "dark demons" who do the devil's bidding. There is so much confusion regarding the state of the dead, that I'm overwhelmed by it. People are NOT eternal, until that gift is granted to them by Jesus upon His marvelous Return and they are RAISED from their graves, or translated without seeing death. Do the necessary homework to become set in this truth before spouting what has been a lie ever since the "serpent" lied to the mother of our race.

R

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Ymarsakar's avatar

Is it not written in your received texts, that satan is the god of this world? Jeshua's own words. The last 2000 years before 2012 don't look like "winning".

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Ray Alford's avatar

Temporarily, Yes, the devil has set himself up as the "god of this world."

"Winning" is a term not too easily described. If you "win" a million dollars at the casino, and gamble it all away on the same night, have you "won?" If we as God's creatures, fail to give due to His Salvational Sacrifice, and turn our backs, we have lost eternal life. Those who follow that course, though seemingly in the majority and having control, will "lose" and not "win." Only a portion of the population will embrace the Truth about historical incidents, such as the physical resurrection of Christ, and that He is God Incarnate. The same God who created all things.

I plan to be among the saved. But planning is not an effective insurance policy; we must act in accordance to the GREAT GIFT we have all received by His invitation! I hope to be among the saved, but if not, I will doubtless admit that God's Judgement is righteous and good.

Yours,

Ray

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GLK's avatar

I feel exactly the same way.

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Mel's avatar

Exactly! And of all the kids at the Waldorf school in Eugene, Oregon - 70+% were unvaccinated PRE-Covid. But as soon as the toxic jabs for Covid-19 were made available to kids, these moms RAN to be first in line to get their children shot up with this hot mess of a jab. True story.

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Ymarsakar's avatar

The Divine Test was constructed so that people who were part of the "anti waxxine" crowd as well as the spiritual new age crowd, would be given the same difficulty as everybody else. No exceptions were made, except for graduates that already passed said test.

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Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

Yes, this too was a great puzzle to me. Not a single bad word was said about the covid vaccine at my kids Waldorf school even though Rudolf Steiner was very much against them and the schools have traditionally been open about not needing to be vaccinated. This was one of the reasons that we sent out kids to a Waldorf school.

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MaryLS's avatar

I also was shocked by this " about face" at Waldorf schools. I wonder what was behind their capitulation.

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Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

In Finland I can accept that the Steiner pedagogy is just a thin veneer at Waldorf schools. The Finnish teaching model is surprisingly close to Steiner's ideals in many respects of child freedoms and creative outlets, this means that there is not such a great urge to go the last mile and be true to Steiner. However because the state subsidises all schools by the same amount the bulk of the school budgets is provided by the state and the parents only provide a small portion of running costs, still any special schools have to conform to a number of curriculum guidelines and this means that the Waldorf schools in Finland also bend to the Finnish school system in some ways. The big thing that worked against the Steiner ideals on vaccine in Finland is the blind faith the Finns generally have in healthcare practitioners and policy makers. I suspect that the average Finn with kids in a Waldorf school still follows the normal Finnish vaccination schedule.

In South Africa the difference is more marked. Schools are very much in the UK style with public and private schools and then the Waldorf schools are private schools that are very different from either. The Steiner pedagogy was promoted and taught to parents and teaches in detail and vaccine hesitancy was considered a sound position, a large component were undervaccinated. I do not know who the South African Waldorf schools handled the massive propaganda wave to vaccinate kids but I would guess they might have been a bit more hesitant than the schools in Finland.

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