Don't apologise for being supposedly "slow". All good, thorough research takes time.
"I spent several days reading estranged people’s forums."
Now you know why there's sometimes gaps in article output from The Daily Beagle. Sifting through very large datasets to find relevant data can be both compelling and time consuming.
You secretly want to be able to read and process everything, but we are humans of limited time, and we must assign ourselves arbitrary cut-off points. You can go down the rabbit hole forever on some data points.
Igor, we were told this would happen. Look me in the eye and tell me that requiring the "jabbinating" of parents will not equate to having them put to death. We were told.
I'm not sure what you believe, but please consider this.
Matthew 10:21-22
"Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake."
That related to back then. That's what happened. The Christians had to be in hiding. Can't challenge the powers of the day and expect no problem. I think it got easier once a Roman emperor (Constantine) decided Christianity could be helpful. Hence Rome.
Constantine was simply a politician, looking after his own goals. To integrate Christians with Pagans likely afforded him an advantage, although it posed great difficulties among God's faithful. The fallout was manifest all throughout history, and today is alive and well in the RC church, whose doctrines and tenets remain in full support of Pagan deities and festivals. There is NOTHING Christian about Roman Catholicism, except maybe the guise. And that too is a ruse; designed to impress.
Was Jesus seen wearing rich apparel, placing Himself in the limelight and showing Himself off as the exalted Son of God?
And the "protestant" religions of today, have embraced with enthusiasm and abject blindness, their once arch enemy the RC church. The "Mother" church, as per her own naming.
Of course he was looking after his own interests. A religion that promotes peace and forgiveness, and teaches its adherents not covet the property of the wealthy is such an asset to the ruling class.
Surely, but is also an asset to the adherents. "Peace" is a coveted asset by nearly everyone whose heart is in the right place. "Forgiveness" and sacrifice is a property that God built The Plan of Redemption around. There will always be ample room for skewed thinking, so unless we invest time in the Scriptures, we will likely draw wrong conclusions, especially so, when the enemy of mankind is HARD at work to attain such delusions with regard to the "Plan."
The video towards the end that has the more balanced perspective is based on Bowen Theory, which fact is a bit glossed over at the start (I haven't watched the whole video yet before commenting -- sorry). Bowen Theory is indeed very helpful in understanding family dynamics and resolving some of these issues. Simply learning about Bowen Theory can help people change in helpful ways to heal broken relationships and become closer. My personal experience is that it is harder for the people who are the most self-centered (reactive, easily triggered, blaming) to change -- so that leaves it up to the more aware party to begin to become more of an observer and calm the situation..... I cannot do justice to this approach here -- I urge all of you to check out Bowen Theory and look into it in more than a superficial way. It also greatly informs our understanding of what is being done to all of us in terms of manipulation of humanity. Many answers and solutions will be found. The more of us who understand these dynamics and can take the necessary, individual action, the stronger we become as a whole.
People who need reconciliation (for whatever reason) will reconcile.
People who want deep and trusting future connections they can rely on will not, without genuine contrition and regret.
If I was to apply forgiveness as general principle to unimportant relationships, I would always know that the bonds were of no more substance than they were prior, and that the same abuse would happen again, and possibly worse, given the precedent.
I think it depends on circumstances. I mean, I feel differently about those that were mandated to take this garbage or lose everything than I do about those that lied, cheated and cut the line to "score" a dose. Both sides are jabbed. I can forgive one side. I cannot forgive the other...
so true, and so obvious (it resonates). Yes, on either side of it.
And it is also the case that you can forgive a person (for their cruelty from lack of understanding, utter cluelessness, misplaced self-righteousness or whatever the case may be), but still not stick around for a continuation of the abuse.
The fundamental problem is that any kind of rational discussion is rendered completely impossible.
If someone believes that the vaccines work so perfectly to immunise the jabbed - but they are still in danger of infection from the unjabbed - then how is it possible to have any conversation about anything? It is a complete state of cognitive breakdown. I think this is fundamentally what leads to permanent estrangement - how is it possible to even talk at this point?
Basically all conversations are reduced to "ga ga goo goo woo woo". I find even small talk about unrelated topics rapidly degenerates because of completely warped dis/information consumption about all other areas of current affairs - coupled with completely bizarre logic in thinking about any topic - also weirdly (is it just me noticing?) seemingly greatly shortened attention span - these people seem to shut down and drift off and change the subject whenever you try to talk in any depth about anything.
I wouldn't mind the person who wear a stone to keep tigers away, if only it wasn't a millstone that they demanded that I also wear or their millstone won't work. ;-)
Yes - that's why I still struggle to stop feeling angry at friends and family who lined up for this. Completely aside from the toxicity to themselves - if even 30% of people had simply said "no" - especially the educated middle classes - it would have gone very far in stopping this tyranny. So I feel that the world has been ruined for the rest of us - simply because people who should have known better were too spineless to not go along with the crowd. Even my gf is in this category - even tho she only took one shot and acknowledges she was crazy to do so. Even though I know they were systemically manipulated and preyed upon I still can't stop feeling angry - even though I know the anger is not helpful.
I think the anger is an honest reaction. My own dominant feeling now is bafflement: how could so many fall for something so very obviously destructive and useless? One gentleman I had always admired for his character got mad at me when I contradicted his claim that these were vaccines like any other. His reaction showed me a lot of things. But his ignorance still leaves me wondering how?
That they didn't realize how dangerous these jabs were I will never, ever understand. My own primary doc, sitting there with a double mask and a plastic spit guard, telling me why she got the jabs.. then drawing a blank when I asked her how many of my cells would be involved, in how many organs, and for how long. I'll never understand it.
Yes, Rustam, it never made any sense. I often wonder how so many could reject the loving efforts of their family members who wanted only to save them from the vaccines, and instead believed complete strangers in the media who cared nothing for them. The fact that it was so easy to get so many to believe the utter nonsense, were incapable of common sense thinking, and could so easily reject the most important people in their lives absolutely astounds me.
this is the dystopian nightmare I never saw coming: how family members could be turned against one another. It's menticide and like a horror movie. My loved ones still look like my loved ones, but it's almost like they are possessed by alien or demonic entities. It is them.... but it is also NOT them. It's like they died and were replaced by strangers.
You are describing how I feel about society as a whole. You can still (or again, depending on where you live) go shopping, watch a movie, travel, go out with people and all these things. And yet, none of it will ever be the same as it was up until 2019. Now it's like constantly wondering when (not if, when) the next clown show psyop will be initiated and how much worse it could be next time.
What's really strange is that the jabees think everything is back to normal. They are protected and safe and everything is right with the world. Even though they keep getting C0VID over and over again, they sincerely believe we're back to pre-2019 life.
I don't think we'll ever get back to pre-2019 life.
if you are conservative, or anti vaxx or have any other opposing views on various topics - against climate hysteria, battery mania, anti gas or oil
Pro beef and chicken, anti hummus, or anti kale or anti man bun or anti gender changing, or anti abortion.... there are more, right?
Well, just accidentally or on purpose share your views that are contrary to the media narrative, you will be tossed out like a multiple times used tissue!
We need our own place to be what we want to be and I am not talking about some kind of ghetto fenced in prison.... heh🤓🥳😂
Absolutely!!! My friend recommended this to me to watch again and it perfectly captures the horror I felt seeing people around me lining up like zombies no matter what I said to them - I felt completely helpless and terribly alone - like I was drowning.
Every time I talk to my Oxford-educated 79 Yr old mum nowadays it feels like talking to someone with dementia. She doesn't have dementia - but every single bit of information she has about the world is coming from newspapers - which years ago were high calibre and at least somewhat trustworthy - but for past 4 years have been bizarre propaganda. She now fully accepts she was duped into injecting poison, and duped into believing she would die from covid - but she still insists on reading the exact same newspaper which did this damage, and gets angry whenever I ask her to stop buying it. It's impossible to discuss any topic at all at dinner - without either: i) me upsetting her by having to try and explain why she has completely wrong information about whatever thing we're talking about, or ii) her husband randomly from nowhere start ranting about Trump and/or Brexit.
She also tends to take everything personally/as criticism when I try to explain anything - or just her whole brain/ears shut down and she just starts repeating "OK OK OK OK".
My educated parents are the same. Michael Crichton described this media-induced phenomenon as the "Gell-Mann amnesia effect": "you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate."
I say why would we believe the media/newspapers when they told us blacks and women were inferior,smoking wasn't harmful,Vietnam war was a fight against communism, there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and on and on.And yet people persist and are glued to the doom scroll.
Yes I realise that now - this madness didn't start overnight in 2020 - but it was less extreme (although things went downhill steadily since around 9-11). But there used to be at least some mainstream journalists who questioned government to some extent - a certain degree of questioning and probing was pretty normal. And occasionally you had e.g. watergate etc.
Heh funny thing about watergate. the two "journalists" involved were being fed inside info from "deep throat". Guess what the background of the two journolists were? CIA/FBI/Intel. And guess who deep throat was? FBI vice director, the same one that Nixon refused to promote andp issed of. The same one, Mark Felt, in charge of COINTELPRO, spying on and assassinating American civilians. The same one that fked up the case against the Weather underground (terrorist agents of theirs). Recall Bill Ayers? Watergate? Hahaha
Coup de tat, successful. Nixon is lucky he didn't get JFKed. He must have pissed off the real masterminds and powers that were.
Yes remember how Watergate was in the news forever? Front page everyday for months maybe years. Well what was done to Trump (Russia Russia Russia) was way worse but who really knows the truth? Even now? Investigative journalists have to be independent to be effective. Newspapers are propaganda! MSM is corrupt!
I think beyond age 60, it is hard for old people (I am one of them and way beyond 60) to change, either the habits of a lifetime, or to accept that the world they grew up in has changed beyond recognition (i.e. newpapers and tv are propoganda arms for the globalists and governments now).. Anger is your clue that dementia (or generously, an arterial flow issue) is also a factor...you might find it easier if you just let it go. They won't be here much longer, and you will never regret visiting them and spending time, even if you have to bite a hole in your tongue.
Please, just accept they cannot change at this point. IT is like expecting a dog to get up on its hind legs and speak french. It is not the dogs fault it can't. It would be silly for you to expect it to.
Talk about their past, their memories, what it was like for them as a child. Leave the crap about what is going on today alone. Treasure the stories they might tell of themselves long ago. You will all be happier.
That’s like turning a blind eye and burying one’s head in the sand… “Oh he’s just an old dog - might as well give him more poison to ensure he dies happy.” We all have the opportunity to wake up and change until the day we cross over… then it’s too late. I am 70 and every day I wake up a little more … I had 4th stage colon cancer and the doctor told me, “If I don’t remove your entire colon today, you will be dead in 2 weeks!” He left the room to book my surgery and I began to pray. There is no way in Hell I was going live without a colon… “Don’t let anyone to rip anything out of this body. Dear God, tell me what I need to do so I can heal myself!” The doctor returned 15 minutes later shaking his head and said, “I don’t know what is going on, but the surgery room is booked solid for 3 weeks! It’s never been booked for more than 1 day in the history of this hospital! I don’t know what to do… I can give you some pain killers!” I replied, “It’s okay, everything is for a reason. I’ll be alright!” All I could think was “Thank you God, I have 3 weeks to heal myself!” Miracle after miracle followed … Long story short, I went back 3 weeks later and the Dr said, “I hope you brought your suitcase.” I replied, “I did, but I don’t think I need it.” He laughed did a pre-exam and 3 times asked me, “What have you done?” and 3 times I replied, “Why do you ask?” He said “Because I want to know… If I didn’t have all of this on record, if this was the first time you stepped into my office, and I had never seen you before, I would swear you were never sick one day in your life! This is the healthiest colon I have ever seen.” He made me write down all that happened, wrote MIRACLE in big red letters on my chart, and said he was going to take a 1 year sabbatical and go to London England to study this. That was 1997… He never returned, and last year I decided to search him out and discovered he set up a holistic gastroenterology clinic in Dublin. Never give up. We can ALL change on a dime. We create our world by how we think. Change your mind (like diapers) and change your world. We are in Essence LOVE from the Creator God - not the man in the cloud that the Vatican has brainwashed humankind with… to keep God outside of us and take our power. God is the Light of LOVE - Life’s Omnipotent Verities Eternal. That is what we are… Most have just become unconscious and forgotten. Change your mind and change your world. What you are conscious of will constitute your experience. LOVE is All.
I'll chime in on this. I find that with elders in this sort of situation it can often go a long way to simply talk about food. I used to think such conversations were silly trivia but now I cherish the memories I have of those conversations with some of those who are now gone. If I'd known what I know now, I would have indulged my grandma much more when she wanted to tell me all about what she had cooked for dinner. Little did I know, those were the last days that she was able to cook dinner. And she was a very good cook.
I disagree with both points in your first sentence. As to accepting the world has changed beyond recognition, I think that's very common. In fact old people are notorious for wishing for the good old days and how things are so much worse now. As far as being hard to change, I agree if you insert "some", or even "most". It's far from a universal truth though, and should NOT be trotted out as an excuse to be a fool with an impenetrable brain. I'm way past 60 too btw.
I think the observation seniors are less likely to change their minds than say 40-somethings, if true, can be explained by reasons other than obtuseness. A minority are open to new information at any age past youth. That percentage changes little from 45 to 65. But by 65, those smart and open-minded enough to change, have more experience and have ALREADY changed their views to reflect reality. Therefore, you have a small pool of oldsters who are open-minded, and wrong. The same proportion of open-minded, though.
Perhaps I put it badly. Our civilization/Western civ and its industrial and economic base is now collapsing, and I think we have not passed on to the future the specialness of the US Constitution or an appreciation for how we live now better than kings in the old days. The collapse started years ago, but not many people were aware as it was slow....now most people understand that our way of life is collapsing - with help and planning. Many do not want to admit it to themselves, many think "oh someone will come along and do something"...but to face the truth is hard. To accept that everything you think you know is wrong is a bitter pill to swallow. While we have no idea of how the collapse will end, and when, and what else may happen, and whether or not we personally will survive is not something most people can comfortably live with. So they retreat into the familiar, or pretend nothing has changed much. And when you are looking at your near end of life, I don't blame people for not wishing to know the full extent of what is happening and happened while they were "living" their lives and were not seeing the changes.
You are absolutely right. Partly (maybe a bit autistic spectrum) I find it extremely difficult to keep my mouth shut and I almost always say wrong thing in inappropriate situations. But also it would feel maddening to literally sit there and nod and smile - that feels like I'm treating them as senile/deranged/half-gone. But you are right - i know they dont have much time left and i know i will haveamy regrets - I just wish I had better conversation and diplomacy skills for dealing with it.
My dad was dying of cancer, early 80 's. I took the time to look through old photo albums with him, his father was an amateur photographer who developed his pics. In the oldest album which he inherited when his sister moved to sheltered housing, were photos of my father's grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins, as well as photos of the Hindenberg, weekends at their allotment garden, and celebratory dates. If I'd not explored the album with him, I would not have known of his early life nor of my distant relatives, many, the ones from Dresden, died in Feb 1945. I also spoke with my mother about her early life too, before and after being a refugee. We all had a lot of pleasure, pain, tears and laughter and I learned so much. My quest was to write this information up for posterity and I've not started yet but time is marching on. Father died15 years ago and mother 9. Once they are gone, you'll never know.
I have the same problem (keeping my mouth shut)...even now....but I do do it better...it has taken a lifetime. Keep trying. and PS...you do this because it comes out of love...we hate to see people we love so victimized or not able to know truth....so just hang on to how much you love them (you know you do...that is why it hurts to see them like this)...and concentrate on that love...and what better care could you give to them at this point? Making their last conversations pleasant, not asking them to understand what they no longer have the strength or inclination to do, and just ask them to tell you about their lives, esp. their childhood, etc....and you will receive a lot of wisdom from them into the bargain.
So many intelligent minds have been completely captured by media. Everything CNN has told my husband since at least 2016 has proven to be a lie and he knows it, yet he still tunes in and refuses to discuss it.
Yes, absolutely. It was my husband's watching that ratcheted up in 2016. He was sure that every breaking news story meant that Trump would finally get what he deserves.
Sorry to hear this. Yes, this weird double-think is perhaps the hardest thing to deal with. Orwell was prescient - when I read 1984 as a school kid I remember thinking "this book is kindof interesting but it's hard to suspend disbelief/get immersed in it as fiction because it just overall seems too farfetched" - now every part of it has almost literally come true - including everyone owning a futuristic screen which is constantly monitoring them. He was especially prophetic about distorted language (e.g. "fact checking" instead of "censorship") as a means of controlling thought (since we use language to think).
A hundred or more years prior, the "plan" was already hatched to include a "NWO" regarding society. It could be very possible that G. Orwell had some inside info. Take a look at the famous out of Hollywood or the music industry. Most of them have been endued with the knowledge that if they will "sell their souls to Satan" they will be blessed by him and succeed. A few have come out and claimed this truth to the public. But who listens? Who believes it?
Now that was a very good observation Rustam. Good for you, you are awake. I do hope you are younger than I, because you have a chance to maybe prevent 1984 from its completion. I wish you the best.
Amazing how the polar opposite of logic became the only acceptable position overnight, eh? If only us mouth breathers could have followed the $cience, my hippy buddy laments....,
When I moved from UK to work in USA back in 2004 for a while - I was extremely shocked to find out that childhood vaccines were mandated by schools. I still believed in these vaccines back then but: 1) I thought everyone accepted that coerced injections were unethical and strictly illegal; 2) it clearly didn't make sense that the vaccinated kids would be at risk from the unvaccinated.
Glad I returned to UK - its been unacceptably crazy and fucked up demented here also - but still far less so than USA and Canada where I would have been fired in 2021.
Another thing - "anti vaxxers" used to always be liberal left-wing middle class soccer-moms wearing clogs and dungarees and shopping at whole-foods - as did freedom of speech anti-censorship advocates (and anti corporatists). How did this get redefined as "right wing" overnight.
I have a left wing friend who only eats wild caught salmon and other health conscious foods, will not get a flu shot, shops at whole foods, but has happily been jabbed at least two or three times.
Her true frequency was found out to be victim consciousness. They didn't make the cut. They could pretend to be health conscious but this was just them following other authorities.
You’re asking the right questions. And the answers are not comforting. The ability to switch public opinion overnight has been refined to an art. Military grade. What we’ve witnessed these last three years should scare you. The injections are only one element of the psyops. Additionally, they’ve learned a lot more than they knew before putting us to the test. Most people have no idea how deeply they’ve been manipulated.
It has taught me very sad and discouraging lesson about the human race. (Which we should have already known from WWII and Stanley Milgram experiments).
Exactly! And of all the kids at the Waldorf school in Eugene, Oregon - 70+% were unvaccinated PRE-Covid. But as soon as the toxic jabs for Covid-19 were made available to kids, these moms RAN to be first in line to get their children shot up with this hot mess of a jab. True story.
The Divine Test was constructed so that people who were part of the "anti waxxine" crowd as well as the spiritual new age crowd, would be given the same difficulty as everybody else. No exceptions were made, except for graduates that already passed said test.
Yes, this too was a great puzzle to me. Not a single bad word was said about the covid vaccine at my kids Waldorf school even though Rudolf Steiner was very much against them and the schools have traditionally been open about not needing to be vaccinated. This was one of the reasons that we sent out kids to a Waldorf school.
Well worth the wait. You cannot reason with demoralized people, including family and friends. I have tried showing as much love, respect, and logic as possible to no avail. My doctor relatives behaved the worst, telling me that they had no sympathy for unvaccinated patients dying, their unvaccinated colleagues getting fired, and didn't want to be around unvaccinated people at all. Bolsheviks always try to break family bonds so that they can take over with state power.
Here is an email I sent them asking simple questions about COVID and the vax, but they never responded and can never discuss. They can't make eye contact with me because I think deep down they are ashamed but can't admit it: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-do-no-harm-part-3
I told my sister very early on in the Scamdemic that she would eventually be deeply embarrassed by her stances. I an still waiting. I think she knows that I was right about virtually everything, but simply will never admit it to herself. She NEVER wants to face painful or uncomfortable situations. So she is intentionally burying her head in the sand. She is a decorated “science teacher “. Me, I am a Qanon, maniac redneck.....
Sounds exactly like My sister and I. I’m a science denier, she’s a nurse, and cognitive dissonance won’t allow her to see truth. We no longer have a relationship.
Sorry to hear that. At this point, I just let people babble and don’t challenge them if they are people that I want in my life. It’s difficult to have any respect for such people though. Getting through to them seems impossible however. Hopefully they don’t hurt themselves or their children-
Yep, exactly. I stopped trying to convince anyone once my brother got his young daughters vaxxed. That was it…nothing more I could say or do. We just don’t discuss any potentially divisive issues, but definitely the respect has been degraded.
Agreed. Just the other day I said to a buddy “I will never understand why it is taboo to discuss these things (I shared my Ivermectin success stories with him) I WANT to know what people experience with different approaches”. He gave a thumbs up on the text but guaranteed he was eye rolling when reading my text.
It will probably be of no avail, but there is always hope as long as breath is pumped. If a "science teacher," she is more than likely inclined to parrot the narrative of billions of years of earth history, and how "life emerged from non-life," and does so as a matter-of-factly.
This opens a WIDE door toward the exposing of the taught shortcomings, and the myriad of, or tsunami of every scholastic discipline taught which are in direct opposition of a Biblical world view.
Any professor of any number of the REAL sciences, will have the knowledge of the Truth, simply by way of the process of elimination. Removing every impossibility, leaving only Creationism, stands tall against the "anti-logic" and the paradigm of the enemies of God, who INSIST that every miracle (in the trillions if not more) were a product of "naturalism." It's purely and simply a "religion;" one which they cling to regardless of them trampling upon; disregarding the laws of nature or physics, (thermo-dynamics) astrophysics, or any and all of the other disciplines which the Giver of those laws has set in place. The "teachers" are protective of their credentials, just the same as nurses and doctors are of theirs.
This is the closest I've come to gaining some insight: one good and dear, long-time friend whom I tried so hard to warn against the jabs, but he got at least 3 of them anyway before stopping.... I had been straightforward with him about the warnings, about my own decision not to get any jabbings, about how I felt about being shunned (he did not shun me, but he was a bit afraid of me for awhile and would keep his outdoor, masked distance); I shared with him in real time, my fears about the rapidly encroaching tyranny.... this got to an alarming point in early 2022 when he was lauding that beast, Yuval Noah Harari, at a party, and I looked at him and said, "Jim, he's anti-human!"
After that, a bit of absence and 3 months later, my friend surfaced, with some health issues, and he told me that he wished he'd listened to my warnings and he was sorry he thought I was uninformed and a bit woo-woo, and that he had thought at the time that it couldn't hurt, "just to be on the safe side," to get the jabs. He thought at worst they would be harmless. He deeply regrets that he did not listen to me at the time. He never did shun me -- the worst he did was tell me I was being a silly girl, listening to the wrong propaganda, coming to the wrong conclusions.
We are long-time friends, and we love each other -- we want to be lifelong friends. But this psy-op has done a number on so many relationships!!! My good friend Jim can only say that he trusted what he thought was the science, but he also was scared and thought the safe thing to do was to go along with the crowd. He says he never hated unvaccinated people, but he did feel unsafe around us, for awhile. Now he understands that that was a baseless concern.
He still does not fully appreciate the lived experience of we who were shunned for our decision to keep that toxic poison out of our bodies. I don't think anyone can fully appreciate being on the receiving end of that, unless they have experienced it for an extended period of time, also with the sense of dread that this shunning would be never-ending. Bleak, abandoned, no one to turn to, no one to talk to (except on substack), and so much pressure to conform, and others so willing to just leave us to be alone because it would just be a simple thing to just get that shot and rejoin society. It was a group shunning, done by individuals who did not realize (or care) that their individual decision to "well, I am just not going to be hanging out with Dani, because...." joined with all of the OTHER individual decisions... .which then became collective decisions, whereby nearly everyone in my life made it clear that unvaccinated people were no longer human.
i never thought of it as me being 'shunned'. it was always a choice they gave, so it was i who shunned them. i have always had an aversion to totalitarians/ authoritarian control freaks who enjoy intimidating, dominating & preying on others. i find those types of narcissists repulsive, so I was relieved to have them expose themselves so I would have my lack of being vaxxed as an excuse not to waste my time, money & energy w them.
Even knowing that (I do not disagree) makes my heart sink, at the loss of what I once thought I had and shared with these loved ones. It will never be the same. I have to question my entire life, all that I have ever believed and held dear.
Turn your attention to the ONE who is dependable and True, Jesus Christ. He has power to do all that He has said he will do. And that's a WHOLE lot to chew on!
So many of us feel the same but I no longer waste my time worrying
about them. I am confident in the knowledge that I was right and they were way wrong. It’s enough for me. I let the rest go. Time will tell what happens going forward. I will be so far ahead it ain’t funny!!! 😀
It's now considered "a bit woo-woo" to understand science. Not "The Science" (TM), but science.
The best that science formerly had to offer was that randomized controlled trials were conducted for any novel intervention, and that those trials would go on for 15+ years, so that we could evaluate long-term all-cause mortality.
If one advocates for that now, though, it's considered "woo-woo."
Those who claim boastfully to "believe science" cannot even articulate the "science" they claim to believe.
They cannot articulate the "science" they claim to believe, because there has been no underpinning by testing and investigation. It's all been just an act of smoke and mirrors, leaning upon the trust that was formulated along the sordid path of the med industry through propaganda techniques and those huge, amazing, institutes of "health" called hospitals and the machinery in them.
But it seems that there will be a growing gulf of that said trust. There SHOULD be, that's for sure!
I have no use for those that PUSHED the jab. I have no use for those that openly DISCRIMINATED against the unjabbed.
So if you didn't push or discriminate and got the jab I say to each their own. You had your reasons. I had mine. If you were respectful about my decision, I respect your decision...
They are afraid. Especially the doctors. They can't bear to admit that they made a huge mistake and have endangered (or even killed) their patients and family members. They will continue to block themselves from reality perhaps until they themselves get injured and then can no longer deny it. Over 180 Canadian doctors have already died, most likely because of the shots — "died suddenly" or from Turbo Cancer.
Fewer than 1/10 of one percent of the MDs in the United States are "tuned" in to our real situation. The rest are thoroughly brainwashed, or cowardly, dupes of Big Pharma and the big corporations that have mostly taken over the medical system in the U.S. Basically all they learn in medical school is to be an obedient "cog in the wheel" of the highly for-profit medical industry. Their training focuses on:
(1) diagnosis, i.e. identifying the significant symptoms and selecting the agreed-upon NAME, then:
(2) selecting an approved treatment, whether drug or surgery (or in rarer cases, some less profitable modality such as physical therapy).
The focus of treatment is almost always something that falls under the umbrella of "standard of care", which means what is the most profitable course of action. Not what is best for the patient. Not what may correct the underlying pathology. Not what may cure him/her. Not prevention. Profit.
That means:
Keep the patient sick. The industry's profits depend on a large pool of sick people— preferably chronic diseases that suppression of symptoms by expensive on-patent pharmaceutical drugs will maintain but never cure!
Actively suppress anything that may cure chronic diseases, by any means possible, including using government FBI goons to attack and arrest doctors who cure people.
Actively suppress use of diet, supplements, neutraceuticals, etc.
Cognitive dissonance. Doctors are not evil (mostly) but they earn lots of money prescribing drugs. Many are neither safe nor effective. They need to believe these help people. If you wind up getting hurt by one your doctor may turn on you, if he can't handle the truth. Iatrogenic disease is real.
Yes, nothing "natural" about such craziness. We as humans have instincts, some to be governed and others to be attributed to goodness and peace in life. The article pointed to beavers being "taught" by their parents. Sorry about that, Igor, but that's absurdly incorrect. Take a baby beaver from its nest and siblings, and raise it completely alone, giving it the aspen, or birch tree limbs to gnaw on and watch it grow into a healthy adult. Afterward, turn it loose on the banks of a slow moving stream and monitor its habits. It will most assuredly make a dam without hesitation or direction from another. It's simply nature's instinct at work. (natural "home-work" without a teacher!)
Or take a chicken-hawk egg and when hatched, hand feed it along with the other chicken chicks, and they will all grow up together, and as long as the Red-Tailed hawk is well-fed, all will be fine. But allow the hawk to become hungry, and when it is of age it will naturally kill and devour companions, without coercion or hesitation. The hawk "thinking about it" does not occur.
The same applies to every instinct of nature. People just don't see it, because they don't spend much time witnessing it. Sorry Igor! Let the religionists of Evolution attempt an explanation for it! It's a good comedy!
Come out, come out...wherever you are! "Come now, let us REASON together!" (Isa. 1:18)
Dating has been a nightmare for the unvaxxed. I do not want a long term relationship with someone who has taken the vax, I also prefer not to openly talk about being unvaxxed.
Stop being afraid, wear it proud and say it loud. Make it clear to people you are one of the educated. People ask me all the time if I am whacked, I just look at them and say, "Why would I do that to myself" I just leave it at that and just shake my head and walk off or just start talking about the weather to throw em off. It is a sport for me, sometimes I keep track of how many I manage to upset if they decide to try and make a case for their stupidity.
We ARE...right here! Better, though, to fan out and let our light shine. We don't need to huddle or discus tactics. That's what THEY do! WE just need to stand tall against the evil and face whatever comes of it. Depending on the regulatory agencies is grandiose indeed. We must put our trust and faith in God, since He is the only source of hope in this war. No one escapes death anyway, so why not be faithful unto death? There is a great reward awaiting those who place a high value on such a thing.
family abolition is just a cover for sexual deviants (illustrated as furries in the picture accompanying the cited article) to create a vast, easily accessible and vulnerable pool of children to prey on
Thank you for writing this. This is going around a lot, and not just over the jab. I am in the middle of some serious nastiness. It is good to know that I am not alone, even though I hope for the best for everyone.
I made the mistake of clicking on some of the links in the article and reading the posts - in particular the “announce my pregnancy” post and comments. The estranged adults forum talks about how the unnamed parents / family are narcissists… yet the majority of posts from these maladjusted adults reflect that they, not the others, are the rampant narcissists.
I know people who had truly terrible parents, from whom they are estranged. In those cases: (1) the only concern regarding announcing a pregnancy would be from keeping the parents from finding out, because of a sincere belief that the child to be having contact with the grandparents would pose a threat to the child; and (2) there would be no real discussion about wanting the parents to feel bad about not getting to know the grandchild - either because the adult had, in some way, forgiven or come to terms with the parent and their deficiencies or bad acts, or because “emotional payback” is such a non-concern in relation the overriding concern of keeping self and child safe from the toxicity of the parent.
What I saw there was either people who are downright, for lack of a better word, evil (not necessarily in a villain sort of way, but in a complete amorality and desire to cause others harm if anything gets in the way of their own self interest), or, for the better of the lot, flawed people who deep down know that “they are the baddies” but will never admit it u til they are steps from the grave.
Seeing this is sad in many ways, but please be sure to recognize that there are seriously dysfunctional and abusive parents out there - alienation is not simply "the fault of society".
However the dysfunction is often inherited and perpetuated, which is extremely unfortunate
Yes it is! Which is why I chose not to have kids. How could I determine that I would not pass on what was done to me if it had been done for generations? I simply could not take the risk. Knowing is one thing. Not acting on it is another.
A creator of victims, that starts as a small spark of insecurity.
Igniting our frame with the doubt of ourselves and our abilities to manifest that which is perfect for our growth, it multiplies in our psyche creating images many times their actual size blinding us to the vast possibilities within our grasp.
We become fascinated with fear's expansion feeling fully compelled to feed it.
Suddenly fear becomes larger than ourselves and we are lost within its grasp.
Better to live fearlessly.
Rip it from your heart deliberately.
Experience that eternal moment of freedom often mistaken for emptiness.
Allow love to flow in.
You'll never miss fear once it's gone.
It is only the anticipation of fear leaving that begs it to stay.
My, how the tables have turned. Wealthy people with private jets only want to hire unvaccinated pilots, unvaxxed people don't want vaxxed blood, many unvaxxed only want to date unvaxxed, vaxxed have turned into asymptomatic superspreaders in many cases and now most unvaxxed don't want to be around them, shedding has become a concern for many unvaxxed people .... the list goes on and on. I always thought it was such a horrible thing to see families split up over personal health decisions but the Propagandists and evil doers that put the pandemic into action knew that roughly 65% of the population can be convinced of anything when you put the fear of death in front of them, regardless of the fact that most people by December 2020 had seen very little death from Covid in their family and social circles (especially amongst the younger cohorts). By then, logic should have prevailed, which is a testament to the strategy of fear no matter how much time passed with empirical evidence to the contrary. I wonder what percentage of these people now understand they were hoodwinked.
Divide and conquer. If this is the objective then there is no more effective way to achieve it than by dismantling the family unit. This has been going on since the 70’s quite aggressively. Schools, children’s TV, adolescent movies etc.
all Instilling a child’s sense of superiority to their parents, rather than respect.
What I see is euphemisms such as "birthing person", ideas such as nuclear family bad, the state at every turn attempting to wrest control of a child from the parent.
All this stuff is, is the state wanting to raise children the way the state likes them, obedient, ignorant, and disposable. Not the way someone that loves a child would raise them.
The psychiatry industry seems to be operating under a similar mandate. The number of people I know that started setting a psychiatrist over the past few years is not insignificant. Pretty much all of them have been directed to remove all contact with family relatives that are deemed 'toxic' you their life. None of them were abused, drug users, etc. All purely subjective diagnoses..
This may be a little off topic, but what about the shunning of the vaxed by the unvaxed? What's everyone's views on unvaxed people worried about the spike protein shedding from the vaxed and keeping their distance?
I know some people who refuse to be in contact with anyone who's vaxed (unless it's necessary ie. They need to see a doctor) because of the health risk and they lead a very isolated life as a result but it seems to unfortunately continue to keep family fairly estranged even if they talk online because people need normal in person human contact and interaction.
I feel like it is extreme and very sad to keep families apart over this when there's been forgiveness but I don't think reconciliation will ever really be complete until we can stop excluding loved ones.
And it's the same issue with trying to reason with them... you can't.
I think it's actually harder in this case because they are correct that there is the potential for health issues associated with being in close contact with those who've been vaccinated. We've seen that anecdotally and more recently in studies. But it's no way to live.
Is your version of "reason" trying to tell people to engage in unsafe practices with those infected by HIV?
People still have a sense of self survival. That is true of everyone. When your "reason" requires that they abdicate their safety and world view, that is not reason at all.
I think your comparison is unfair. Every situation comes with unique risks and you have to analyse whether the risks outweigh the positives for each situation. I don't think it would be wise to encourage someone to participate in unsafe behaviour with someone with HIV such as kissing etc and that's because you could probably happily go through your whole life without ever coming across an HIV positive individual. If you did come across one, you could safely be around said person and interact with them as long as you didn't exchange bodily fluids. So as long as you maintained certain boundaries for everyone's safety it would be fine, but my main point is that the likelihood of finding yourself in such a situation is low. Even if you did find yourself friends with someone who's HIV positive, the precautions would only be necessary when you're around the individual and so you could really limit that to very rare occasions or even just once and most of your life can go on normally.
It's an entirely different situation with the vaxed and vax shedding. You are definitely going to come across many, many, many vaxed people in your everyday life. If you require essential services from going to see the doctor or dentist to going to see a hairdresser or get your groceries, you are going to be around vaxed people, and if your reason is medical, then it's likely you'll be in quite close contact with them.
I wish there were more studies on this topic but there's plenty of anecdotal evidence, and despite keeping your distance and having your own space, just being in the same office seems to make you susceptible to the shedding. Short of moving to live with an Ahmish community or an isolated and rural location with limited social contact, which I think is a very extreme thing to do, there is no way to keep your distance from the vaxed.
Then you have to wonder about all the unvaxed people... Here's a hypothetical situation based on my (hopefully correct) understanding of how the shedding works: Jane never got the jab but after a check up with her vaxed doctor, she's unfortunately now essentially vaxed because of the spike protein shedding and she's presenting with all the same injuries such as myocarditis and blood clots etc. Do you avoid Jane and stay away from her as if she were vaxed? What about all the Jane's in the world?
2 or 3 years down the track and we see that there are plenty of vaxed people who don't have any ill effects from the vax. Maybe in the future that will change, but I hope that's not the case for their sakes. For now though, they are vaxed and they shed spike proteins but they show no signs of having blood clots or weakened immune systems. I think it's reasonable to assume that there are unvaxed people who aren't presenting with any symptoms but who are essentially vaxed because they are producing spike proteins due to interacting with the vaxed. They probably aren't even aware of it though. For the sake of your safety, you could argue that it's unwise to be around the vaxed and people like Jane because she's essentially vaxed, but what about unvaxed people who don't have any symptoms but who are essentially vaxed? How do you determine if someone is "safe" to interact normally with? Who then can you safely be around?
In the interests of self survival, I think your only answer is moving to live with an Ahmish community or going to an isolated and rural location with limited social contact, but the latter is definitely not healthy because humans need community and social interaction for their mental health. I have no issue with the Ahmish but I don't think this choice is practical or even reasonable for the majority of people.
Or... you could go about your life normally since you can't reasonably avoid coming into contact with the vaxed or unvaxed who are essentially vaxed. Maybe you could take supplements to try to mitigate any potential issues. I've heard activated bamboo charcoal is meant to be very good. I've also no idea how contagious the shedding is, maybe after 6 months, you can be around the vaxed because they no longer shed.
Aside from that, pretty much everything from furniture, the seats in your car to your food and clothes are poisoned but at a "safe" amount though they still cause cancer and are endocrine and hormone disruptors. There's a lot of evidence that suggests WiFi, mobile phones, 4G and 5G are detrimental to your health too and affect your memory and make you fatigued. Living among these things isn't in the best interests of your self survival, so what do you do? Is it reasonable to live in fear, isolated from everyone and everything in the interests of not abdicating your world view and safety? My reason is judged using common sense with a high regard for safety but also taking into consideration the unique circumstances of each unique situation. It's a really dangerous of way of thinking to prioritise your world view and safety to such an extent that reason does not enter into the equation.
Indeed in fact the graduates of Earth ARE moving to our own consciousness communities. This has been a work in progress for some time, so we are going to become like the Amish for a certain period of time at least.
Ever read Atlas Shrugged? Going Galt? That is happening.
Of course there will be nations or city states, but Texas and California shows you the limits of that. Federation/China will keep working on their own problems and future.
But for the most advanced and powerful societies on Earth, they will be more similar to the Amish. Except with exotic technology and spiritual guidance.
I risked death by refusing the jab....from covid and a million other causes (I would prefer death to the emergency room). That's it for me. I can't worry about shedding. If I want to engage with someone and the feeling is mutual, jab status is irrelevant. But that's just me. Not trying to project. Your concerns are valid.
Those who took the jab, also risked death. Except for them, they became zombies devoid of the human heart. THis transformation will become more extreme over the years, for those that survive.
It’s all part of the war on the natural human, so often outlined in WEF precepts today.
When I was much younger, the notion of a satanic cult underlying world affairs seemed symbolic at best. With a lot more experience under my belt, it appears to be a literal truth. The war for hearts and minds, now turbo-powered with modern technology, communications, and medical & biological manipulation and interference. It’s like the experience of reading Brave New World and 1984 as cautionary tales way back in school, and now seeing an amalgamation of the two actually shaping our reality. There’s a long rough road ahead, and the outcome is uncertain.
satan's own have been in control on Earth for thousands of years. You were born a slave. So was almost everyone else. Except for the divine sovereigns and other volunteers to this war.
Myself and my wife and kids were excluded from our family's Thanksgiving dinner in 2021, specifically because we were unvaccinated. This was just a few months after we had lost both my father and stepmother (and my mother and stepfather died years ago). My wife and I rented a mountain cabin and cooked a very nice steak dinner and made the best of it, but for me this was one of the most painful and lonely times in my life.
By that time there was ample evidence that the vaccines didn't even prevent infection or transmission, but most of my family simply could not comprehend any of it, they were completely caught up in the Mass Formation fear and hysteria. My nephew and his wife hosted the Thanksgiving dinner, they were so caught up in fear that they literally did not leave their house for a year, they even ordered groceries online and their poor kids did not even get out for walks or hikes or GOD FORBID playing in the park.
Sorry for not posting during the last five days - I was working on this article
Don't apologise for being supposedly "slow". All good, thorough research takes time.
"I spent several days reading estranged people’s forums."
Now you know why there's sometimes gaps in article output from The Daily Beagle. Sifting through very large datasets to find relevant data can be both compelling and time consuming.
You secretly want to be able to read and process everything, but we are humans of limited time, and we must assign ourselves arbitrary cut-off points. You can go down the rabbit hole forever on some data points.
Igor, we were told this would happen. Look me in the eye and tell me that requiring the "jabbinating" of parents will not equate to having them put to death. We were told.
I'm not sure what you believe, but please consider this.
Matthew 10:21-22
"Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake."
That related to back then. That's what happened. The Christians had to be in hiding. Can't challenge the powers of the day and expect no problem. I think it got easier once a Roman emperor (Constantine) decided Christianity could be helpful. Hence Rome.
Constantine was simply a politician, looking after his own goals. To integrate Christians with Pagans likely afforded him an advantage, although it posed great difficulties among God's faithful. The fallout was manifest all throughout history, and today is alive and well in the RC church, whose doctrines and tenets remain in full support of Pagan deities and festivals. There is NOTHING Christian about Roman Catholicism, except maybe the guise. And that too is a ruse; designed to impress.
Was Jesus seen wearing rich apparel, placing Himself in the limelight and showing Himself off as the exalted Son of God?
And the "protestant" religions of today, have embraced with enthusiasm and abject blindness, their once arch enemy the RC church. The "Mother" church, as per her own naming.
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Of course he was looking after his own interests. A religion that promotes peace and forgiveness, and teaches its adherents not covet the property of the wealthy is such an asset to the ruling class.
Surely, but is also an asset to the adherents. "Peace" is a coveted asset by nearly everyone whose heart is in the right place. "Forgiveness" and sacrifice is a property that God built The Plan of Redemption around. There will always be ample room for skewed thinking, so unless we invest time in the Scriptures, we will likely draw wrong conclusions, especially so, when the enemy of mankind is HARD at work to attain such delusions with regard to the "Plan."
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The video towards the end that has the more balanced perspective is based on Bowen Theory, which fact is a bit glossed over at the start (I haven't watched the whole video yet before commenting -- sorry). Bowen Theory is indeed very helpful in understanding family dynamics and resolving some of these issues. Simply learning about Bowen Theory can help people change in helpful ways to heal broken relationships and become closer. My personal experience is that it is harder for the people who are the most self-centered (reactive, easily triggered, blaming) to change -- so that leaves it up to the more aware party to begin to become more of an observer and calm the situation..... I cannot do justice to this approach here -- I urge all of you to check out Bowen Theory and look into it in more than a superficial way. It also greatly informs our understanding of what is being done to all of us in terms of manipulation of humanity. Many answers and solutions will be found. The more of us who understand these dynamics and can take the necessary, individual action, the stronger we become as a whole.
Here's what I noticed:
- Most people who agree with the need for reconciliation and forgiveness are not estranged
- Many people who are against forgiveness are estranged
Here's a different simplistic observation...
People who need reconciliation (for whatever reason) will reconcile.
People who want deep and trusting future connections they can rely on will not, without genuine contrition and regret.
If I was to apply forgiveness as general principle to unimportant relationships, I would always know that the bonds were of no more substance than they were prior, and that the same abuse would happen again, and possibly worse, given the precedent.
Makes sense to me
I think it depends on circumstances. I mean, I feel differently about those that were mandated to take this garbage or lose everything than I do about those that lied, cheated and cut the line to "score" a dose. Both sides are jabbed. I can forgive one side. I cannot forgive the other...
South Park had an episode about people trying to cut the line... 🤭
so true, and so obvious (it resonates). Yes, on either side of it.
And it is also the case that you can forgive a person (for their cruelty from lack of understanding, utter cluelessness, misplaced self-righteousness or whatever the case may be), but still not stick around for a continuation of the abuse.
The fundamental problem is that any kind of rational discussion is rendered completely impossible.
If someone believes that the vaccines work so perfectly to immunise the jabbed - but they are still in danger of infection from the unjabbed - then how is it possible to have any conversation about anything? It is a complete state of cognitive breakdown. I think this is fundamentally what leads to permanent estrangement - how is it possible to even talk at this point?
Basically all conversations are reduced to "ga ga goo goo woo woo". I find even small talk about unrelated topics rapidly degenerates because of completely warped dis/information consumption about all other areas of current affairs - coupled with completely bizarre logic in thinking about any topic - also weirdly (is it just me noticing?) seemingly greatly shortened attention span - these people seem to shut down and drift off and change the subject whenever you try to talk in any depth about anything.
"how is it possible to even talk at this point?"
Poignant and incisive question, Rustam.
If an aspect of gently bemused interest opens no avenue of calm dialogue, better not to talk and thereby widen the rift.
"I carry around this stone because it keeps tigers away."
I wouldn't mind the person who wear a stone to keep tigers away, if only it wasn't a millstone that they demanded that I also wear or their millstone won't work. ;-)
"I carry around this stone" to remind me not to spend time with mindless people.
Okay, the temptation cannot be overcome, so I'll say it:
"But Tom, there have never been any tigers in this part of the world!"
(because every humorist can use a "straight man" upon occasion. One softball, served with a kindly regard.)
;)
(And Tom answers: "You see? My stone WORKS!!")
:-)
Ah, but the most excellent Tom merely winks, Hannah, anticipating that you could resist no more than could I.
It would seem that the search for truth leaves no stone unturned. ;-)
It was never about "science" or "protection". It was more about: do you acknowledge who's in control?
Yes - that's why I still struggle to stop feeling angry at friends and family who lined up for this. Completely aside from the toxicity to themselves - if even 30% of people had simply said "no" - especially the educated middle classes - it would have gone very far in stopping this tyranny. So I feel that the world has been ruined for the rest of us - simply because people who should have known better were too spineless to not go along with the crowd. Even my gf is in this category - even tho she only took one shot and acknowledges she was crazy to do so. Even though I know they were systemically manipulated and preyed upon I still can't stop feeling angry - even though I know the anger is not helpful.
I think the anger is an honest reaction. My own dominant feeling now is bafflement: how could so many fall for something so very obviously destructive and useless? One gentleman I had always admired for his character got mad at me when I contradicted his claim that these were vaccines like any other. His reaction showed me a lot of things. But his ignorance still leaves me wondering how?
Isn't it ironic that medical personnel are now crippled by "bafflement."
That they didn't realize how dangerous these jabs were I will never, ever understand. My own primary doc, sitting there with a double mask and a plastic spit guard, telling me why she got the jabs.. then drawing a blank when I asked her how many of my cells would be involved, in how many organs, and for how long. I'll never understand it.
Yes, Rustam, it never made any sense. I often wonder how so many could reject the loving efforts of their family members who wanted only to save them from the vaccines, and instead believed complete strangers in the media who cared nothing for them. The fact that it was so easy to get so many to believe the utter nonsense, were incapable of common sense thinking, and could so easily reject the most important people in their lives absolutely astounds me.
I say the same.
this is the dystopian nightmare I never saw coming: how family members could be turned against one another. It's menticide and like a horror movie. My loved ones still look like my loved ones, but it's almost like they are possessed by alien or demonic entities. It is them.... but it is also NOT them. It's like they died and were replaced by strangers.
It's call "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".
You are describing how I feel about society as a whole. You can still (or again, depending on where you live) go shopping, watch a movie, travel, go out with people and all these things. And yet, none of it will ever be the same as it was up until 2019. Now it's like constantly wondering when (not if, when) the next clown show psyop will be initiated and how much worse it could be next time.
+1
I completely agree with you. The trust of society has been irrevocably broken.
What's really strange is that the jabees think everything is back to normal. They are protected and safe and everything is right with the world. Even though they keep getting C0VID over and over again, they sincerely believe we're back to pre-2019 life.
I don't think we'll ever get back to pre-2019 life.
Dani, not alone.
if you are conservative, or anti vaxx or have any other opposing views on various topics - against climate hysteria, battery mania, anti gas or oil
Pro beef and chicken, anti hummus, or anti kale or anti man bun or anti gender changing, or anti abortion.... there are more, right?
Well, just accidentally or on purpose share your views that are contrary to the media narrative, you will be tossed out like a multiple times used tissue!
We need our own place to be what we want to be and I am not talking about some kind of ghetto fenced in prison.... heh🤓🥳😂
Did you ever see "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"? That movie (the one made in the '50s) haunted me, and turned out to be prescient...
Absolutely!!! My friend recommended this to me to watch again and it perfectly captures the horror I felt seeing people around me lining up like zombies no matter what I said to them - I felt completely helpless and terribly alone - like I was drowning.
Same. Ever since the vaxx roll out.
I liked the remake with Donald Sutherland and Leonard Nemoy.
I've seen bits and pieces of it, but now I want to find it and watch it all the way through, start-to-finish.
https://archive.org/details/invasionofthebodysnatchers1956_201911
Every time I talk to my Oxford-educated 79 Yr old mum nowadays it feels like talking to someone with dementia. She doesn't have dementia - but every single bit of information she has about the world is coming from newspapers - which years ago were high calibre and at least somewhat trustworthy - but for past 4 years have been bizarre propaganda. She now fully accepts she was duped into injecting poison, and duped into believing she would die from covid - but she still insists on reading the exact same newspaper which did this damage, and gets angry whenever I ask her to stop buying it. It's impossible to discuss any topic at all at dinner - without either: i) me upsetting her by having to try and explain why she has completely wrong information about whatever thing we're talking about, or ii) her husband randomly from nowhere start ranting about Trump and/or Brexit.
She also tends to take everything personally/as criticism when I try to explain anything - or just her whole brain/ears shut down and she just starts repeating "OK OK OK OK".
My educated parents are the same. Michael Crichton described this media-induced phenomenon as the "Gell-Mann amnesia effect": "you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate."
I say why would we believe the media/newspapers when they told us blacks and women were inferior,smoking wasn't harmful,Vietnam war was a fight against communism, there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and on and on.And yet people persist and are glued to the doom scroll.
Years ago newspapers were propaganda. They duped you as well rustam
Yes I realise that now - this madness didn't start overnight in 2020 - but it was less extreme (although things went downhill steadily since around 9-11). But there used to be at least some mainstream journalists who questioned government to some extent - a certain degree of questioning and probing was pretty normal. And occasionally you had e.g. watergate etc.
Heh funny thing about watergate. the two "journalists" involved were being fed inside info from "deep throat". Guess what the background of the two journolists were? CIA/FBI/Intel. And guess who deep throat was? FBI vice director, the same one that Nixon refused to promote andp issed of. The same one, Mark Felt, in charge of COINTELPRO, spying on and assassinating American civilians. The same one that fked up the case against the Weather underground (terrorist agents of theirs). Recall Bill Ayers? Watergate? Hahaha
Coup de tat, successful. Nixon is lucky he didn't get JFKed. He must have pissed off the real masterminds and powers that were.
It's all Pravda, mate. Even Watergate was a CIA-run operation. https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-bob-woodward-cia-asset-president-nixon/
Yes remember how Watergate was in the news forever? Front page everyday for months maybe years. Well what was done to Trump (Russia Russia Russia) was way worse but who really knows the truth? Even now? Investigative journalists have to be independent to be effective. Newspapers are propaganda! MSM is corrupt!
I think beyond age 60, it is hard for old people (I am one of them and way beyond 60) to change, either the habits of a lifetime, or to accept that the world they grew up in has changed beyond recognition (i.e. newpapers and tv are propoganda arms for the globalists and governments now).. Anger is your clue that dementia (or generously, an arterial flow issue) is also a factor...you might find it easier if you just let it go. They won't be here much longer, and you will never regret visiting them and spending time, even if you have to bite a hole in your tongue.
Please, just accept they cannot change at this point. IT is like expecting a dog to get up on its hind legs and speak french. It is not the dogs fault it can't. It would be silly for you to expect it to.
Talk about their past, their memories, what it was like for them as a child. Leave the crap about what is going on today alone. Treasure the stories they might tell of themselves long ago. You will all be happier.
That’s like turning a blind eye and burying one’s head in the sand… “Oh he’s just an old dog - might as well give him more poison to ensure he dies happy.” We all have the opportunity to wake up and change until the day we cross over… then it’s too late. I am 70 and every day I wake up a little more … I had 4th stage colon cancer and the doctor told me, “If I don’t remove your entire colon today, you will be dead in 2 weeks!” He left the room to book my surgery and I began to pray. There is no way in Hell I was going live without a colon… “Don’t let anyone to rip anything out of this body. Dear God, tell me what I need to do so I can heal myself!” The doctor returned 15 minutes later shaking his head and said, “I don’t know what is going on, but the surgery room is booked solid for 3 weeks! It’s never been booked for more than 1 day in the history of this hospital! I don’t know what to do… I can give you some pain killers!” I replied, “It’s okay, everything is for a reason. I’ll be alright!” All I could think was “Thank you God, I have 3 weeks to heal myself!” Miracle after miracle followed … Long story short, I went back 3 weeks later and the Dr said, “I hope you brought your suitcase.” I replied, “I did, but I don’t think I need it.” He laughed did a pre-exam and 3 times asked me, “What have you done?” and 3 times I replied, “Why do you ask?” He said “Because I want to know… If I didn’t have all of this on record, if this was the first time you stepped into my office, and I had never seen you before, I would swear you were never sick one day in your life! This is the healthiest colon I have ever seen.” He made me write down all that happened, wrote MIRACLE in big red letters on my chart, and said he was going to take a 1 year sabbatical and go to London England to study this. That was 1997… He never returned, and last year I decided to search him out and discovered he set up a holistic gastroenterology clinic in Dublin. Never give up. We can ALL change on a dime. We create our world by how we think. Change your mind (like diapers) and change your world. We are in Essence LOVE from the Creator God - not the man in the cloud that the Vatican has brainwashed humankind with… to keep God outside of us and take our power. God is the Light of LOVE - Life’s Omnipotent Verities Eternal. That is what we are… Most have just become unconscious and forgotten. Change your mind and change your world. What you are conscious of will constitute your experience. LOVE is All.
I've been thinking that people get wiser to mass media manipulation as they get older.
I'll chime in on this. I find that with elders in this sort of situation it can often go a long way to simply talk about food. I used to think such conversations were silly trivia but now I cherish the memories I have of those conversations with some of those who are now gone. If I'd known what I know now, I would have indulged my grandma much more when she wanted to tell me all about what she had cooked for dinner. Little did I know, those were the last days that she was able to cook dinner. And she was a very good cook.
I have very fond memories of cooking for and asking about food with my Aunt.
And every thanksgiving and Christmas, I wish I had paid attention to my Grandmother, whose cooking couldn't be beat.
I disagree with both points in your first sentence. As to accepting the world has changed beyond recognition, I think that's very common. In fact old people are notorious for wishing for the good old days and how things are so much worse now. As far as being hard to change, I agree if you insert "some", or even "most". It's far from a universal truth though, and should NOT be trotted out as an excuse to be a fool with an impenetrable brain. I'm way past 60 too btw.
I think the observation seniors are less likely to change their minds than say 40-somethings, if true, can be explained by reasons other than obtuseness. A minority are open to new information at any age past youth. That percentage changes little from 45 to 65. But by 65, those smart and open-minded enough to change, have more experience and have ALREADY changed their views to reflect reality. Therefore, you have a small pool of oldsters who are open-minded, and wrong. The same proportion of open-minded, though.
Perhaps I put it badly. Our civilization/Western civ and its industrial and economic base is now collapsing, and I think we have not passed on to the future the specialness of the US Constitution or an appreciation for how we live now better than kings in the old days. The collapse started years ago, but not many people were aware as it was slow....now most people understand that our way of life is collapsing - with help and planning. Many do not want to admit it to themselves, many think "oh someone will come along and do something"...but to face the truth is hard. To accept that everything you think you know is wrong is a bitter pill to swallow. While we have no idea of how the collapse will end, and when, and what else may happen, and whether or not we personally will survive is not something most people can comfortably live with. So they retreat into the familiar, or pretend nothing has changed much. And when you are looking at your near end of life, I don't blame people for not wishing to know the full extent of what is happening and happened while they were "living" their lives and were not seeing the changes.
You are absolutely right. Partly (maybe a bit autistic spectrum) I find it extremely difficult to keep my mouth shut and I almost always say wrong thing in inappropriate situations. But also it would feel maddening to literally sit there and nod and smile - that feels like I'm treating them as senile/deranged/half-gone. But you are right - i know they dont have much time left and i know i will haveamy regrets - I just wish I had better conversation and diplomacy skills for dealing with it.
My dad was dying of cancer, early 80 's. I took the time to look through old photo albums with him, his father was an amateur photographer who developed his pics. In the oldest album which he inherited when his sister moved to sheltered housing, were photos of my father's grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins, as well as photos of the Hindenberg, weekends at their allotment garden, and celebratory dates. If I'd not explored the album with him, I would not have known of his early life nor of my distant relatives, many, the ones from Dresden, died in Feb 1945. I also spoke with my mother about her early life too, before and after being a refugee. We all had a lot of pleasure, pain, tears and laughter and I learned so much. My quest was to write this information up for posterity and I've not started yet but time is marching on. Father died15 years ago and mother 9. Once they are gone, you'll never know.
I have the same problem (keeping my mouth shut)...even now....but I do do it better...it has taken a lifetime. Keep trying. and PS...you do this because it comes out of love...we hate to see people we love so victimized or not able to know truth....so just hang on to how much you love them (you know you do...that is why it hurts to see them like this)...and concentrate on that love...and what better care could you give to them at this point? Making their last conversations pleasant, not asking them to understand what they no longer have the strength or inclination to do, and just ask them to tell you about their lives, esp. their childhood, etc....and you will receive a lot of wisdom from them into the bargain.
So many intelligent minds have been completely captured by media. Everything CNN has told my husband since at least 2016 has proven to be a lie and he knows it, yet he still tunes in and refuses to discuss it.
That's not intelligence. It's the definition of insanity.
I have many intelligent friends that feel CNN/WEF is sacrosanct.
It's time to reconsider your understanding of "intelligent."
Way before 2016 I’m afraid!
Yes, absolutely. It was my husband's watching that ratcheted up in 2016. He was sure that every breaking news story meant that Trump would finally get what he deserves.
Sorry to hear this. Yes, this weird double-think is perhaps the hardest thing to deal with. Orwell was prescient - when I read 1984 as a school kid I remember thinking "this book is kindof interesting but it's hard to suspend disbelief/get immersed in it as fiction because it just overall seems too farfetched" - now every part of it has almost literally come true - including everyone owning a futuristic screen which is constantly monitoring them. He was especially prophetic about distorted language (e.g. "fact checking" instead of "censorship") as a means of controlling thought (since we use language to think).
A hundred or more years prior, the "plan" was already hatched to include a "NWO" regarding society. It could be very possible that G. Orwell had some inside info. Take a look at the famous out of Hollywood or the music industry. Most of them have been endued with the knowledge that if they will "sell their souls to Satan" they will be blessed by him and succeed. A few have come out and claimed this truth to the public. But who listens? Who believes it?
R.
Now that was a very good observation Rustam. Good for you, you are awake. I do hope you are younger than I, because you have a chance to maybe prevent 1984 from its completion. I wish you the best.
Amazing how the polar opposite of logic became the only acceptable position overnight, eh? If only us mouth breathers could have followed the $cience, my hippy buddy laments....,
A small child can understand this logically.
When I moved from UK to work in USA back in 2004 for a while - I was extremely shocked to find out that childhood vaccines were mandated by schools. I still believed in these vaccines back then but: 1) I thought everyone accepted that coerced injections were unethical and strictly illegal; 2) it clearly didn't make sense that the vaccinated kids would be at risk from the unvaccinated.
Glad I returned to UK - its been unacceptably crazy and fucked up demented here also - but still far less so than USA and Canada where I would have been fired in 2021.
Another thing - "anti vaxxers" used to always be liberal left-wing middle class soccer-moms wearing clogs and dungarees and shopping at whole-foods - as did freedom of speech anti-censorship advocates (and anti corporatists). How did this get redefined as "right wing" overnight.
Look at google trends. Look to see when "anti-vaxxer" searches were conducted. This will correlate with the spreading of memes.
Memes were spread at a specific time interval for a specific purpose.
Beliefs are being managed.
I have a left wing friend who only eats wild caught salmon and other health conscious foods, will not get a flu shot, shops at whole foods, but has happily been jabbed at least two or three times.
Her true frequency was found out to be victim consciousness. They didn't make the cut. They could pretend to be health conscious but this was just them following other authorities.
In my small orbit the health conscious were the FIRST to submit to this garbage...
You’re asking the right questions. And the answers are not comforting. The ability to switch public opinion overnight has been refined to an art. Military grade. What we’ve witnessed these last three years should scare you. The injections are only one element of the psyops. Additionally, they’ve learned a lot more than they knew before putting us to the test. Most people have no idea how deeply they’ve been manipulated.
More accurate: NO one knows the extent of the manipulation we have been put to. God alone can conceive it.
r
I have been exercising some phrases quite a bit lately.
Military grade.
State sponsored.
And so forth . . .
It has taught me very sad and discouraging lesson about the human race. (Which we should have already known from WWII and Stanley Milgram experiments).
Exactly! And of all the kids at the Waldorf school in Eugene, Oregon - 70+% were unvaccinated PRE-Covid. But as soon as the toxic jabs for Covid-19 were made available to kids, these moms RAN to be first in line to get their children shot up with this hot mess of a jab. True story.
The Divine Test was constructed so that people who were part of the "anti waxxine" crowd as well as the spiritual new age crowd, would be given the same difficulty as everybody else. No exceptions were made, except for graduates that already passed said test.
Yes, this too was a great puzzle to me. Not a single bad word was said about the covid vaccine at my kids Waldorf school even though Rudolf Steiner was very much against them and the schools have traditionally been open about not needing to be vaccinated. This was one of the reasons that we sent out kids to a Waldorf school.
Well worth the wait. You cannot reason with demoralized people, including family and friends. I have tried showing as much love, respect, and logic as possible to no avail. My doctor relatives behaved the worst, telling me that they had no sympathy for unvaccinated patients dying, their unvaccinated colleagues getting fired, and didn't want to be around unvaccinated people at all. Bolsheviks always try to break family bonds so that they can take over with state power.
Here is an email I sent them asking simple questions about COVID and the vax, but they never responded and can never discuss. They can't make eye contact with me because I think deep down they are ashamed but can't admit it: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-do-no-harm-part-3
I told my sister very early on in the Scamdemic that she would eventually be deeply embarrassed by her stances. I an still waiting. I think she knows that I was right about virtually everything, but simply will never admit it to herself. She NEVER wants to face painful or uncomfortable situations. So she is intentionally burying her head in the sand. She is a decorated “science teacher “. Me, I am a Qanon, maniac redneck.....
Sounds exactly like My sister and I. I’m a science denier, she’s a nurse, and cognitive dissonance won’t allow her to see truth. We no longer have a relationship.
Sorry to hear that. At this point, I just let people babble and don’t challenge them if they are people that I want in my life. It’s difficult to have any respect for such people though. Getting through to them seems impossible however. Hopefully they don’t hurt themselves or their children-
Yep, exactly. I stopped trying to convince anyone once my brother got his young daughters vaxxed. That was it…nothing more I could say or do. We just don’t discuss any potentially divisive issues, but definitely the respect has been degraded.
Agreed. Just the other day I said to a buddy “I will never understand why it is taboo to discuss these things (I shared my Ivermectin success stories with him) I WANT to know what people experience with different approaches”. He gave a thumbs up on the text but guaranteed he was eye rolling when reading my text.
It will probably be of no avail, but there is always hope as long as breath is pumped. If a "science teacher," she is more than likely inclined to parrot the narrative of billions of years of earth history, and how "life emerged from non-life," and does so as a matter-of-factly.
This opens a WIDE door toward the exposing of the taught shortcomings, and the myriad of, or tsunami of every scholastic discipline taught which are in direct opposition of a Biblical world view.
Any professor of any number of the REAL sciences, will have the knowledge of the Truth, simply by way of the process of elimination. Removing every impossibility, leaving only Creationism, stands tall against the "anti-logic" and the paradigm of the enemies of God, who INSIST that every miracle (in the trillions if not more) were a product of "naturalism." It's purely and simply a "religion;" one which they cling to regardless of them trampling upon; disregarding the laws of nature or physics, (thermo-dynamics) astrophysics, or any and all of the other disciplines which the Giver of those laws has set in place. The "teachers" are protective of their credentials, just the same as nurses and doctors are of theirs.
Ray
And obviously MAGA.
I love QAnon rednecks!
My buddy immediately assumed I was Qanon because I said Fraudci is a miserable failure 😎😜
Failure at what? You're assuming his primary goal was to save lives and do no harm.
Tony is an astonishingly successful Freemason.
Well that’s a tough lead in for people who can’t admit what is smashing them in the face.
And there you have it. That's why they are incapable of having a discussion.
I suspect deep down, they are indoctrinated & aren't willing/able to overcome
"Stockholm syndrome" ~ https://curtiscost.substack.com/p/psychological-warfare-and-covid-compliance
This is the closest I've come to gaining some insight: one good and dear, long-time friend whom I tried so hard to warn against the jabs, but he got at least 3 of them anyway before stopping.... I had been straightforward with him about the warnings, about my own decision not to get any jabbings, about how I felt about being shunned (he did not shun me, but he was a bit afraid of me for awhile and would keep his outdoor, masked distance); I shared with him in real time, my fears about the rapidly encroaching tyranny.... this got to an alarming point in early 2022 when he was lauding that beast, Yuval Noah Harari, at a party, and I looked at him and said, "Jim, he's anti-human!"
After that, a bit of absence and 3 months later, my friend surfaced, with some health issues, and he told me that he wished he'd listened to my warnings and he was sorry he thought I was uninformed and a bit woo-woo, and that he had thought at the time that it couldn't hurt, "just to be on the safe side," to get the jabs. He thought at worst they would be harmless. He deeply regrets that he did not listen to me at the time. He never did shun me -- the worst he did was tell me I was being a silly girl, listening to the wrong propaganda, coming to the wrong conclusions.
We are long-time friends, and we love each other -- we want to be lifelong friends. But this psy-op has done a number on so many relationships!!! My good friend Jim can only say that he trusted what he thought was the science, but he also was scared and thought the safe thing to do was to go along with the crowd. He says he never hated unvaccinated people, but he did feel unsafe around us, for awhile. Now he understands that that was a baseless concern.
He still does not fully appreciate the lived experience of we who were shunned for our decision to keep that toxic poison out of our bodies. I don't think anyone can fully appreciate being on the receiving end of that, unless they have experienced it for an extended period of time, also with the sense of dread that this shunning would be never-ending. Bleak, abandoned, no one to turn to, no one to talk to (except on substack), and so much pressure to conform, and others so willing to just leave us to be alone because it would just be a simple thing to just get that shot and rejoin society. It was a group shunning, done by individuals who did not realize (or care) that their individual decision to "well, I am just not going to be hanging out with Dani, because...." joined with all of the OTHER individual decisions... .which then became collective decisions, whereby nearly everyone in my life made it clear that unvaccinated people were no longer human.
I know Dani.
i never thought of it as me being 'shunned'. it was always a choice they gave, so it was i who shunned them. i have always had an aversion to totalitarians/ authoritarian control freaks who enjoy intimidating, dominating & preying on others. i find those types of narcissists repulsive, so I was relieved to have them expose themselves so I would have my lack of being vaxxed as an excuse not to waste my time, money & energy w them.
"unvaccinated people were no longer human"
No. Unvaccinated people were the only humans left.
Your humanity was what they could no longer accept.
Even knowing that (I do not disagree) makes my heart sink, at the loss of what I once thought I had and shared with these loved ones. It will never be the same. I have to question my entire life, all that I have ever believed and held dear.
"Liked" for visibility in the algorithm.
I have compassion for what you have lost. What is happening now has a spiritual component.
Turn your attention to the ONE who is dependable and True, Jesus Christ. He has power to do all that He has said he will do. And that's a WHOLE lot to chew on!
Ray
So many of us feel the same but I no longer waste my time worrying
about them. I am confident in the knowledge that I was right and they were way wrong. It’s enough for me. I let the rest go. Time will tell what happens going forward. I will be so far ahead it ain’t funny!!! 😀
Here's the sad part:
It's now considered "a bit woo-woo" to understand science. Not "The Science" (TM), but science.
The best that science formerly had to offer was that randomized controlled trials were conducted for any novel intervention, and that those trials would go on for 15+ years, so that we could evaluate long-term all-cause mortality.
If one advocates for that now, though, it's considered "woo-woo."
Those who claim boastfully to "believe science" cannot even articulate the "science" they claim to believe.
Izakley! Well put my friend!
They cannot articulate the "science" they claim to believe, because there has been no underpinning by testing and investigation. It's all been just an act of smoke and mirrors, leaning upon the trust that was formulated along the sordid path of the med industry through propaganda techniques and those huge, amazing, institutes of "health" called hospitals and the machinery in them.
But it seems that there will be a growing gulf of that said trust. There SHOULD be, that's for sure!
r
They have harnessed the fear of death, the fear of the loss of wealth, and the love of the world to subvert people's will.
It's wicked beyond imagination.
Interesting, Dani. Thanks for that.
I have no use for those that PUSHED the jab. I have no use for those that openly DISCRIMINATED against the unjabbed.
So if you didn't push or discriminate and got the jab I say to each their own. You had your reasons. I had mine. If you were respectful about my decision, I respect your decision...
They are afraid. Especially the doctors. They can't bear to admit that they made a huge mistake and have endangered (or even killed) their patients and family members. They will continue to block themselves from reality perhaps until they themselves get injured and then can no longer deny it. Over 180 Canadian doctors have already died, most likely because of the shots — "died suddenly" or from Turbo Cancer.
I don't like it that I'm smarter than my doctors, and they think they know better than I do.
Like it! Give thanks for it!
It likely saved your life.
r
Fewer than 1/10 of one percent of the MDs in the United States are "tuned" in to our real situation. The rest are thoroughly brainwashed, or cowardly, dupes of Big Pharma and the big corporations that have mostly taken over the medical system in the U.S. Basically all they learn in medical school is to be an obedient "cog in the wheel" of the highly for-profit medical industry. Their training focuses on:
(1) diagnosis, i.e. identifying the significant symptoms and selecting the agreed-upon NAME, then:
(2) selecting an approved treatment, whether drug or surgery (or in rarer cases, some less profitable modality such as physical therapy).
The focus of treatment is almost always something that falls under the umbrella of "standard of care", which means what is the most profitable course of action. Not what is best for the patient. Not what may correct the underlying pathology. Not what may cure him/her. Not prevention. Profit.
That means:
Keep the patient sick. The industry's profits depend on a large pool of sick people— preferably chronic diseases that suppression of symptoms by expensive on-patent pharmaceutical drugs will maintain but never cure!
Actively suppress anything that may cure chronic diseases, by any means possible, including using government FBI goons to attack and arrest doctors who cure people.
Actively suppress use of diet, supplements, neutraceuticals, etc.
Cognitive dissonance. Doctors are not evil (mostly) but they earn lots of money prescribing drugs. Many are neither safe nor effective. They need to believe these help people. If you wind up getting hurt by one your doctor may turn on you, if he can't handle the truth. Iatrogenic disease is real.
You know how it goes--quality over quantity.
I'm glad you are tackling it- the attacks on everything good in our human family, just don't seem to quit!
Love & marriage. Family. Male & Female relationships that work...
Goodness knows we need to destroy that!
A lot of people who would like to marry and have families find it difficult now. Lockdown hasn't helped.
Yes, nothing "natural" about such craziness. We as humans have instincts, some to be governed and others to be attributed to goodness and peace in life. The article pointed to beavers being "taught" by their parents. Sorry about that, Igor, but that's absurdly incorrect. Take a baby beaver from its nest and siblings, and raise it completely alone, giving it the aspen, or birch tree limbs to gnaw on and watch it grow into a healthy adult. Afterward, turn it loose on the banks of a slow moving stream and monitor its habits. It will most assuredly make a dam without hesitation or direction from another. It's simply nature's instinct at work. (natural "home-work" without a teacher!)
Or take a chicken-hawk egg and when hatched, hand feed it along with the other chicken chicks, and they will all grow up together, and as long as the Red-Tailed hawk is well-fed, all will be fine. But allow the hawk to become hungry, and when it is of age it will naturally kill and devour companions, without coercion or hesitation. The hawk "thinking about it" does not occur.
The same applies to every instinct of nature. People just don't see it, because they don't spend much time witnessing it. Sorry Igor! Let the religionists of Evolution attempt an explanation for it! It's a good comedy!
Come out, come out...wherever you are! "Come now, let us REASON together!" (Isa. 1:18)
Ray
Dating has been a nightmare for the unvaxxed. I do not want a long term relationship with someone who has taken the vax, I also prefer not to openly talk about being unvaxxed.
I am proud of being unvaxxed...from the covid death shot.
Stop being afraid, wear it proud and say it loud. Make it clear to people you are one of the educated. People ask me all the time if I am whacked, I just look at them and say, "Why would I do that to myself" I just leave it at that and just shake my head and walk off or just start talking about the weather to throw em off. It is a sport for me, sometimes I keep track of how many I manage to upset if they decide to try and make a case for their stupidity.
We need to start congregating.
We ARE...right here! Better, though, to fan out and let our light shine. We don't need to huddle or discus tactics. That's what THEY do! WE just need to stand tall against the evil and face whatever comes of it. Depending on the regulatory agencies is grandiose indeed. We must put our trust and faith in God, since He is the only source of hope in this war. No one escapes death anyway, so why not be faithful unto death? There is a great reward awaiting those who place a high value on such a thing.
R
Someone, somewhere, and sometime, will want my unjabbed blood.
or your organs
family abolition is just a cover for sexual deviants (illustrated as furries in the picture accompanying the cited article) to create a vast, easily accessible and vulnerable pool of children to prey on
Communism has always been evil.
Thank you for writing this. This is going around a lot, and not just over the jab. I am in the middle of some serious nastiness. It is good to know that I am not alone, even though I hope for the best for everyone.
you are definitely not alone
I made the mistake of clicking on some of the links in the article and reading the posts - in particular the “announce my pregnancy” post and comments. The estranged adults forum talks about how the unnamed parents / family are narcissists… yet the majority of posts from these maladjusted adults reflect that they, not the others, are the rampant narcissists.
I know people who had truly terrible parents, from whom they are estranged. In those cases: (1) the only concern regarding announcing a pregnancy would be from keeping the parents from finding out, because of a sincere belief that the child to be having contact with the grandparents would pose a threat to the child; and (2) there would be no real discussion about wanting the parents to feel bad about not getting to know the grandchild - either because the adult had, in some way, forgiven or come to terms with the parent and their deficiencies or bad acts, or because “emotional payback” is such a non-concern in relation the overriding concern of keeping self and child safe from the toxicity of the parent.
What I saw there was either people who are downright, for lack of a better word, evil (not necessarily in a villain sort of way, but in a complete amorality and desire to cause others harm if anything gets in the way of their own self interest), or, for the better of the lot, flawed people who deep down know that “they are the baddies” but will never admit it u til they are steps from the grave.
It makes me weep for society.
Seeing this is sad in many ways, but please be sure to recognize that there are seriously dysfunctional and abusive parents out there - alienation is not simply "the fault of society".
However the dysfunction is often inherited and perpetuated, which is extremely unfortunate
Yes it is! Which is why I chose not to have kids. How could I determine that I would not pass on what was done to me if it had been done for generations? I simply could not take the risk. Knowing is one thing. Not acting on it is another.
NO FEAR
Fear is the true root of all mishap.
A creator of victims, that starts as a small spark of insecurity.
Igniting our frame with the doubt of ourselves and our abilities to manifest that which is perfect for our growth, it multiplies in our psyche creating images many times their actual size blinding us to the vast possibilities within our grasp.
We become fascinated with fear's expansion feeling fully compelled to feed it.
Suddenly fear becomes larger than ourselves and we are lost within its grasp.
Better to live fearlessly.
Rip it from your heart deliberately.
Experience that eternal moment of freedom often mistaken for emptiness.
Allow love to flow in.
You'll never miss fear once it's gone.
It is only the anticipation of fear leaving that begs it to stay.
Let it go........
Fear will lie to you in its quest for survival.
Fear is necessary only to itself.
See the truth.
Know No fear.
Great article. How can I share / send a pdf to you?
My, how the tables have turned. Wealthy people with private jets only want to hire unvaccinated pilots, unvaxxed people don't want vaxxed blood, many unvaxxed only want to date unvaxxed, vaxxed have turned into asymptomatic superspreaders in many cases and now most unvaxxed don't want to be around them, shedding has become a concern for many unvaxxed people .... the list goes on and on. I always thought it was such a horrible thing to see families split up over personal health decisions but the Propagandists and evil doers that put the pandemic into action knew that roughly 65% of the population can be convinced of anything when you put the fear of death in front of them, regardless of the fact that most people by December 2020 had seen very little death from Covid in their family and social circles (especially amongst the younger cohorts). By then, logic should have prevailed, which is a testament to the strategy of fear no matter how much time passed with empirical evidence to the contrary. I wonder what percentage of these people now understand they were hoodwinked.
Can outside forces really break parent-child-sibling relationships? It seems to me that these relationships were troubled before 2020.
They were troubled, perhaps, but not completely broken
Divide and conquer. If this is the objective then there is no more effective way to achieve it than by dismantling the family unit. This has been going on since the 70’s quite aggressively. Schools, children’s TV, adolescent movies etc.
all Instilling a child’s sense of superiority to their parents, rather than respect.
What I see is euphemisms such as "birthing person", ideas such as nuclear family bad, the state at every turn attempting to wrest control of a child from the parent.
All this stuff is, is the state wanting to raise children the way the state likes them, obedient, ignorant, and disposable. Not the way someone that loves a child would raise them.
The psychiatry industry seems to be operating under a similar mandate. The number of people I know that started setting a psychiatrist over the past few years is not insignificant. Pretty much all of them have been directed to remove all contact with family relatives that are deemed 'toxic' you their life. None of them were abused, drug users, etc. All purely subjective diagnoses..
This may be a little off topic, but what about the shunning of the vaxed by the unvaxed? What's everyone's views on unvaxed people worried about the spike protein shedding from the vaxed and keeping their distance?
I know some people who refuse to be in contact with anyone who's vaxed (unless it's necessary ie. They need to see a doctor) because of the health risk and they lead a very isolated life as a result but it seems to unfortunately continue to keep family fairly estranged even if they talk online because people need normal in person human contact and interaction.
I feel like it is extreme and very sad to keep families apart over this when there's been forgiveness but I don't think reconciliation will ever really be complete until we can stop excluding loved ones.
It is a very important question!
I see it as the other side of same coin...
And it's the same issue with trying to reason with them... you can't.
I think it's actually harder in this case because they are correct that there is the potential for health issues associated with being in close contact with those who've been vaccinated. We've seen that anecdotally and more recently in studies. But it's no way to live.
It's a sad world.
Is your version of "reason" trying to tell people to engage in unsafe practices with those infected by HIV?
People still have a sense of self survival. That is true of everyone. When your "reason" requires that they abdicate their safety and world view, that is not reason at all.
I think your comparison is unfair. Every situation comes with unique risks and you have to analyse whether the risks outweigh the positives for each situation. I don't think it would be wise to encourage someone to participate in unsafe behaviour with someone with HIV such as kissing etc and that's because you could probably happily go through your whole life without ever coming across an HIV positive individual. If you did come across one, you could safely be around said person and interact with them as long as you didn't exchange bodily fluids. So as long as you maintained certain boundaries for everyone's safety it would be fine, but my main point is that the likelihood of finding yourself in such a situation is low. Even if you did find yourself friends with someone who's HIV positive, the precautions would only be necessary when you're around the individual and so you could really limit that to very rare occasions or even just once and most of your life can go on normally.
It's an entirely different situation with the vaxed and vax shedding. You are definitely going to come across many, many, many vaxed people in your everyday life. If you require essential services from going to see the doctor or dentist to going to see a hairdresser or get your groceries, you are going to be around vaxed people, and if your reason is medical, then it's likely you'll be in quite close contact with them.
I wish there were more studies on this topic but there's plenty of anecdotal evidence, and despite keeping your distance and having your own space, just being in the same office seems to make you susceptible to the shedding. Short of moving to live with an Ahmish community or an isolated and rural location with limited social contact, which I think is a very extreme thing to do, there is no way to keep your distance from the vaxed.
Then you have to wonder about all the unvaxed people... Here's a hypothetical situation based on my (hopefully correct) understanding of how the shedding works: Jane never got the jab but after a check up with her vaxed doctor, she's unfortunately now essentially vaxed because of the spike protein shedding and she's presenting with all the same injuries such as myocarditis and blood clots etc. Do you avoid Jane and stay away from her as if she were vaxed? What about all the Jane's in the world?
2 or 3 years down the track and we see that there are plenty of vaxed people who don't have any ill effects from the vax. Maybe in the future that will change, but I hope that's not the case for their sakes. For now though, they are vaxed and they shed spike proteins but they show no signs of having blood clots or weakened immune systems. I think it's reasonable to assume that there are unvaxed people who aren't presenting with any symptoms but who are essentially vaxed because they are producing spike proteins due to interacting with the vaxed. They probably aren't even aware of it though. For the sake of your safety, you could argue that it's unwise to be around the vaxed and people like Jane because she's essentially vaxed, but what about unvaxed people who don't have any symptoms but who are essentially vaxed? How do you determine if someone is "safe" to interact normally with? Who then can you safely be around?
In the interests of self survival, I think your only answer is moving to live with an Ahmish community or going to an isolated and rural location with limited social contact, but the latter is definitely not healthy because humans need community and social interaction for their mental health. I have no issue with the Ahmish but I don't think this choice is practical or even reasonable for the majority of people.
Or... you could go about your life normally since you can't reasonably avoid coming into contact with the vaxed or unvaxed who are essentially vaxed. Maybe you could take supplements to try to mitigate any potential issues. I've heard activated bamboo charcoal is meant to be very good. I've also no idea how contagious the shedding is, maybe after 6 months, you can be around the vaxed because they no longer shed.
Aside from that, pretty much everything from furniture, the seats in your car to your food and clothes are poisoned but at a "safe" amount though they still cause cancer and are endocrine and hormone disruptors. There's a lot of evidence that suggests WiFi, mobile phones, 4G and 5G are detrimental to your health too and affect your memory and make you fatigued. Living among these things isn't in the best interests of your self survival, so what do you do? Is it reasonable to live in fear, isolated from everyone and everything in the interests of not abdicating your world view and safety? My reason is judged using common sense with a high regard for safety but also taking into consideration the unique circumstances of each unique situation. It's a really dangerous of way of thinking to prioritise your world view and safety to such an extent that reason does not enter into the equation.
Indeed in fact the graduates of Earth ARE moving to our own consciousness communities. This has been a work in progress for some time, so we are going to become like the Amish for a certain period of time at least.
Ever read Atlas Shrugged? Going Galt? That is happening.
Of course there will be nations or city states, but Texas and California shows you the limits of that. Federation/China will keep working on their own problems and future.
But for the most advanced and powerful societies on Earth, they will be more similar to the Amish. Except with exotic technology and spiritual guidance.
I risked death by refusing the jab....from covid and a million other causes (I would prefer death to the emergency room). That's it for me. I can't worry about shedding. If I want to engage with someone and the feeling is mutual, jab status is irrelevant. But that's just me. Not trying to project. Your concerns are valid.
Those who took the jab, also risked death. Except for them, they became zombies devoid of the human heart. THis transformation will become more extreme over the years, for those that survive.
It’s all part of the war on the natural human, so often outlined in WEF precepts today.
When I was much younger, the notion of a satanic cult underlying world affairs seemed symbolic at best. With a lot more experience under my belt, it appears to be a literal truth. The war for hearts and minds, now turbo-powered with modern technology, communications, and medical & biological manipulation and interference. It’s like the experience of reading Brave New World and 1984 as cautionary tales way back in school, and now seeing an amalgamation of the two actually shaping our reality. There’s a long rough road ahead, and the outcome is uncertain.
satan's own have been in control on Earth for thousands of years. You were born a slave. So was almost everyone else. Except for the divine sovereigns and other volunteers to this war.
Myself and my wife and kids were excluded from our family's Thanksgiving dinner in 2021, specifically because we were unvaccinated. This was just a few months after we had lost both my father and stepmother (and my mother and stepfather died years ago). My wife and I rented a mountain cabin and cooked a very nice steak dinner and made the best of it, but for me this was one of the most painful and lonely times in my life.
By that time there was ample evidence that the vaccines didn't even prevent infection or transmission, but most of my family simply could not comprehend any of it, they were completely caught up in the Mass Formation fear and hysteria. My nephew and his wife hosted the Thanksgiving dinner, they were so caught up in fear that they literally did not leave their house for a year, they even ordered groceries online and their poor kids did not even get out for walks or hikes or GOD FORBID playing in the park.
the waxxine makes your iq lower and regersses you back to your childhood. So they are now incapable of figuring it out.
David...you saw these people for who they REALLY are. You and your immediate family sound absolutely delightful!
How hopelessly stupid that was!
Thank you for this incredibly thoughtful and well researched post. It’s a subject not often enough discussed.
Reasons people are still unwilling to let in unvaxxed family members is because of cognitive dissonance and or maybe embarrassment.