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ArtyD's avatar

Those of us with vaccine-injured children have known about this kind of data hiding and word-smithing for over a decade. We tried to warn people. It was all in plain sight. The idiots who spewed hate and posted dumb memes years ago about “if my kid can’t bring peanut butter to the classroom, yours can’t bring diseases” are now vaccine-injured and eating crow. Wakefield, Krigsman, Mumper, Megson, Kartzinel and many others have been sounding the alarm for decades. Now the clot shot is a whole other beast. CDC really broke out the big guns with this monstrosity, and MSM remains silent. They’ll keep going as long as they can. They don’t care if they injure or kill. It’s all about the Benjamins.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

ArtyD, I want to apologize to you.

I was blind before COVID.

I thought that antivaxxers were quacks.

I did not know that so many kids were hurt.

I already apologized to my children for not thinking about their childhood vaccinations.

Now I want to apologize to you and other people like you.

I am sorry.

I only woke up in the last 3 years.

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ArtyD's avatar

Thank you. I’m sorry we are all joined together by the lies and deceit. Many of us had to learn the hard way. But I’m glad to have someone as vocal and articulate as you seeing the truth. Keep up the great work.

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Cindi's avatar

Same, Igor. I dutifully allowed the Vax “schedule” for my kids, never gave it a thought, except the Hollywood types like Jenny McCarthy were nuts. I never had any use for or trust in government, politicians, bureaucrats but the medical community? Yes. My father, uncle & grandfather were MDs when MDs were still independent & Hypocratic Oath still meant something in the olden days. Eyes wide open now as of the past 3 years

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Julie Pettiford's avatar

Me too . I trained as a nurse and as part of the system believed I n vaccines. My mother was also a nurse. At 70 , it’s been not n the last few years as an IT challenged person been able to access other viewpoints. I now have a Pfizer injury and am speaking out at ever opportunity.

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Cindi's avatar

Im so sorry, Julie. But good for you in being brave & speaking out 😘

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this little authoritarian's avatar

I think the premise of mimicking natural infections through vaccines is reasonably sound theoretically but there are so many immune system unknowns/ variances and this reactions. There are big differences in how natural infections proceed and how all the various types of vaccine are supposed to work but it isn't necessarily a bad idea if the match were good. That said, covid shots are transfections and nothing like live attenuated vaccines, for example. It must also be noted that any drug or vaccine can be dangerous, just like a virus/infection. It's always risk/benefit and should not be mandated ever. Unfortunately, the idea that vaccines are inherently safe or effective is indeed questionable and much of the data on regular vaccines has been obscured, I feel. It's a damn shame. Vaccines may have their place but we need to be in a position to see all the evidence and data..

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T220's avatar

Did Jenny McCarthy speak out against the covid vax?

I have a friend that was antivaxx precovid but for some bizarre reason she took the covid vax. I'll never understand that one.

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Mig's avatar

That one I can explain! It is the covid propaganda that made your friend think that her life was at risk at that very moment. She probably made a calculation based on her knowledge: and because she tought she good dye, she preferred taking the risk to get vaccination injured, over dying.

Probably you are like me, looked up some data globally to check how many people died, because you, just like me, didn't know anybody who died from covid, nor my friends knew somebody who died of covid, and the data showed to me that that was not coincidented. There were not lots of people dying. So I concluded there was something wrong but not a lethal disease...

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Cindi's avatar

In addition to that, it was the global lockstep + unhinged “policies” like lockdown, masks, arrows, plastic shields, limited interaction amongst groups, isolating the aged or sick or dying & the “warp speed” jab that left no doubt something wicked this way comes

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Völva's avatar

Talk about overplaying their hand!

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R Nichols's avatar

Big pHarma shows no compassion for outcasts like me. Psychiatry is about finding unhappy or troubled people and creating the symptoms associated with bipolar or schizophrenia. Their mind altering drugs disfigure and cripple those they claim to help. They damage people neurologically (how the drugs work) and cause them to die 25 years early. After I found about vaccine injuries I was not surprised. Pfizer and the rest are worse than ordinary drug cartels. And far more powerful.

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T220's avatar

Yep true. I watched the fatality rate closely and it was obvious after the Princess Diamond Cruise that we weren't all going to die. There was never a need for a vax. A you can't make a safe vax in less than a year.

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Jaye's avatar

Jenny M declared her son's autism to be vax-caused.

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Cindi's avatar

IDKT220. I just remember her saying childhood “vaccines” were responsible for things like autism, ADD, etc. I thought she was crazy. No more

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R Nichols's avatar

I got suspicious when I heard pharmaceutical companies claiming "100% safe and effective." Nothing is 100% safe. That set my BS detectors off.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

R Nichols ... where were the clinical phase trials ... now lawyers are having a field day with using Tylenol in pregnancy and linking it to autism.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Yes, that is one of the reddest red flags there is.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, we live in a world where sanity and insanity switched places long ago. And only very recently are they starting to switch back, it seems.

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Cindi's avatar

Black is white, up is down, slavery is freedom, 2+2=5, sanity is insanity…I hope you’re right that it’s switching back Ajax

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Chiadrum's avatar

How about the fact that all the government and pharma hating hippies that are all in on natural healing and farm to table life not having a single question?

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Cindi's avatar

Rich, isn’t it Chiadrum. In addition, only THEY were “following the science”. But the true “science” tide is turning on them. The truth was always there….

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Chiadrum's avatar

I told my imbecile sister that she would be embarrassed by her position and the truth would come out. Whether or not she will ever admit it is another story. She and my mom both opted to no longer speak rather than have a respectful conversation on the topic. After they both smeared me as a science denier. Punch line- sis is a science teacher by trade. Yeah, we are doomed 😎

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Peter 🔒's avatar

THEY hired the best Behaviorial Psychologists to figure out how to 'motivate' peeps to do stuff they normally wouldn't. Import Crisis and Mega-Fear, pre-fontal cortex. e.g. decision making for outcomes shuts down basically due to flight or fight response. Easy to sustain propaganda ads, fake death #s when you have a 1 billion dollar budget.

ffs. don't help your Citizens tho. Get that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Chiadrum's avatar

I think that I’ll get a tshirt- “Milgram Outlier”. Anyone who knows what it means is a friend for life. My sis claims she got jabbed so she could “have her life back”. What will the cost be next time sis?

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Cindi's avatar

Lots of people did it so they could “travel” - that was NEVER any good reason for me but to the extent dopes thought it was, they had really unpleasant experiences w/ constant masking & distancing & many places closed or majorly restricted due to WuFlu.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Hahahaha!!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

T220... I know a few anti vaxxers whose kids were injured from the MMR and DPT and they jabbed their teenage children with this Jab . It boggled my mind . One ended up with myocarditis and the other with an encephalopathy.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Wow. Looks like some people never learn, alas.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

No they don’t … my sympathy level was low , I’m sad to admit.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

And Pamela Anderson, and Robert DeNiro, and so many others too.

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ArtyD's avatar

Jenny has kept her mouth shut since she was lampooned. But I know she’s still in the biomedical circles treating her child. I hear he’s doing well.

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Cindi's avatar

I would think & hope she’d be right out loud, vindicating herself

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Dr Linda's avatar

I fought it tooth and nail. It was a long hard frustrating battle. I appreciate everyone who supported snd educated me during that time. I think living in Missouri made it a little easier. They were a little more hands off. I fired at least 6 pediatricians. I am well aware in some states DFS might accuse me if child endangerment. Frankly, that frightens me.

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aj's avatar

thank you; it is a rare admission, so it counts even more

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

that's ok. welcome .......to the far right, racist, mysogynist, climate denier, anti vaxxer hate speeching anti semite conspiracy theorists support group. you are one of us now. We are a pretty cool bunch when you get to mingle with us. HONK HONK.

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Jaye's avatar

You fogot anti-science

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R Nichols's avatar

Has anyone ever openly called themselves "anti science"?

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Jaye's avatar

It's what others call them, along with mysogynist, racist etc

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

but better late than never. you are a valuable addition to the team!

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, I felt the same way as well. And I am sorry too. It is sad that it had to take something like this to really blow the lid off the entire racket that has been literally going on since Edward Jenner's smallpox vaccine in the 18th century to one degree or another.

For smallpox, the entire 19th century looked an awful lot like what we are seeing now, with the vaccines igniting and reigniting new outbreaks over and over again. To say nothing of the horrible vaccine injuries too. And yet they kept on forcing them on people over and over again. History really does rhyme!

Not that all vaccines are always categorically bad in all cases period, of course, but there has always been a significant dark side to them pretty much from the get-go that has been (until now) successfully swept under the rug.

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

The proof is in the pudding as they say. We purebloods live awfully healthy lives decade in and decade out. I am working out now my body is worth a hell of a lot to a chop shop. I keep waking up in a cold sweat seeing hoards of covid jabbed lefties screaming and baying for the govt to intervene and make me give up my organs.

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R Nichols's avatar

Jonathon Edwards died of an early smallpox vaccine. A famous Puritan writer and preacher.

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Paving the Way's avatar

I have to agree. I have been thinking about my children too, now that I am awake.

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Völva's avatar

I am surprised at the continued blindness of some, who even quite publicly continue to criticize the circumstances around the creation and pushing of the Covid shot, but continue to trust and defend the very same pharmaceutical industry and government agencies when it comes to vaccines in general. THAT is being blind, gullible and lacking in critical thinking skills. Not coming across the facts about vaccines earlier, but *becoming curious and suspicious* and coming to the realization about the true circumstances surrounding all vaccines as a result of the Covid farce is showing intelligence and integrity.

Igor, you are the only person I’ve seen publicly apologize to your children for trusting vaccine manufacturers at and government agencies, and admit to your change of heart so openly, and I have tremendous respect for you because it!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Better late than never. I appreciate your work.

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TexBat's avatar

You’re the first person I’ve ever seen who has apologized for this

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Lisa's avatar

Igor, this is one of the many reasons I paid to read your stack. I fully admit I read for free to get a feel for the type of writer and person I was spending my time on. I could tell through your various writings that you truly care, are a very ethical individual and in pursuit of the truth. This takes an individual being humble to admit when they are wrong. Now, that’s a person I want to hear from! Like you, I am always learning and always admit when I am wrong. Your kids are lucky to have you!

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joe jacovino's avatar

glad you saw the light, better now than never. i was extremely fortunate that in 1986 , the same year pHARMa was let off the hook , i wound up in a childbirth prep class from a midwife birthing center that was taught by a woman who was already in the know about what things like vaxxes , sonograms , epidurals and pitocen did to the fetus and later the child. god bless that angel sent from heaven , i can never thank her enough , and the chiropractor i met at that class as well

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I didn’t catch on for a few years after getting many autoimmune issues after a booster shot for work in 2001. By 2003 I was applying for disability. I was so I’ll & brain fog (and brainwashed!) it took more neglect, gaslighting and failed treatments until I woke up. Found an integrative medicine doctor that changed & is changing my life and health. Finally functioning in society a little bit again. & the substack community has been a blessing since this covid narrative started.

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R Nichols's avatar

I'm damaged from long term (22+ years) use of SSRI drugs to treat the "brain chemical imbalance" the lying experts assured me I had. Shame on me for believing them. Went off them 5 years ago. Suffering autoimmune illness and neurological problems like brain fog. Similar to a lot of the vaccine injured I noticed.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I can relate to that. At 45 I was on 8 prescriptions for various autoimmune issues and tried antidepressants for many years before them. Slowly weaned myself off everything but thyroid medicine. Doesn’t it remind you of what they call long covid? Don’t be embarrassed about believing the “ experts “, just be thankful you came to your senses.

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R Nichols's avatar

Sorry I wasted so much of my life too. Ages 20-44 drugged out of my gourd. I took a lot of the drugs including sedatives and neuroleptics. When the SSRI for anxiety and depression I took shortly after turning twenty made me batty (3 weeks without sleep) they diagnosed me bipolar and forced a "cocktail" on me. They warned my family how stupid and sneaky the severely mentally ill can be because "they lack insight." The lies to and about me combined with lots of mood/mind altering drugs that really hurt my relationships. Gainful employment or having a family were impossible. I couldn't even properly grieve the life they stole.

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Dan Star's avatar

I know of baby that just received scheduled jabs and broke out body wide hives.

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ArtyD's avatar

That breaks my heart. Unfortunately, like when my baby had bloody diarrhea, and a face covered in eczema, after the first round of shots, the pediatrician will say it’s all perfectly normal so we should continue posthaste.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I know an infant who the grandmother hasn’t been allowed to meet yet , I pray for baby and for her parents to wake up.

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HelloHello's avatar

This gives me so much hope and makes me cry. Thank you Igor for your courage.

After being yelled at by doctors and ostracized for health decisions for my family which go against the medical norms, I hoped when this whole Covid nightmare began, there would be good that came from it.

I believe this is the good, the silver lining. That people everywhere are seeing behind the veil of lies and deception.

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R Nichols's avatar

I started going anti vaxx after I noticed some militant anti-anti-vaxxer propaganda that praised Big pHarma. And it made no sense.

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CuiBono?'s avatar

🙏🏻💗

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

yes, it's really true that most people were ok with vaccines as long as it wasn't mandated on them. i'm of an age where my childhood vaccines were polio, small pox and TB so i'm pretty unscathed. i was taught in college (!) that autism was caused by a cold unfeeling mother who rejected the child (even unconsciously) at birth and i asked "i suppose fathers never reject a child?"

in 1976, my cousin's wife spent a year in a wheelchair after that swine flu vaccine. i figured it was better to spend a few days in bed with the flu than a year with GBS.

there's just too much medicine. you go to a doctor when you break a bone or have a ruptured appendix. other than that, eat real food, move around and spend time outside. all the rest- well baby visits, yearly scans, tests looking for this and that- it's all rent seeking behavior.

we all had measles, mumps and chickenpox as children and our parents weren't overly concerned. now, to hear doctors talk about measles as if it's some fatal disease! yikes! yeah, sure lots of kids die from measles in impoverished countries where there is a lack of nutrition and poor water supply. i'm not fooled by billionaires who claim to worry about the world's health but only want to help in ways that add to their fortunes. when bill gates shows as much concern for the education and nutrition of poor children as he does for getting needles into their arms, and gets a well fitting brassiere, i might take him a bit more seriously

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Tom's avatar

There’s nothing Gates could do at this point to restore his credibility other than by jumping off a tall bridge.

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

as part of his depopulation agenda

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R Nichols's avatar

A lot of folks on the right and the left hate him.

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Völva's avatar

😂😂I was already thinking about the need for a brassiere when I got to the part where you gently suggested it. How come all folks pushing pharmaceuticals look like they’ve never heard of health?

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Tom's avatar

Big Pharma’s target market are sick people. Especially chronically sick. The more sick people the better.

I’ll bet they’re cleaning up $$$$ due to all the sick people their jabs have created. Bad drugs are more profitable than safe drugs if you can cover up the truth with lies.

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Völva's avatar

100%. Their products are the gift that keeps on giving - to themselves.

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B. Orpington's avatar

Avoid seed oils for good eating - it's amazing how they're in just about everything! Should be ~2% or less of caloric intake, but more like 20-30% of American diet. Even health foods tout they use organic seed oils... Don't eat it!

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aj's avatar

you should worry about the polio vax all the boomer kids got, it was contaminated with SV-40. Simian Virus 40, the 40th one they identified, also known as polyoma, which means 'many cancers'.

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i know but there's little i can do about it now. i'm grateful that i missed the vaccinate against anything wave in order to go to school. i work at staying healthy

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Watersnake's avatar

🎯

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Karyne's avatar

I don’t have vaccine injured kids but have been a rabid anti- vaxxer for years. It must rile you when you hear people use the term derogatively. It sure riles me. The parrots have never looked into the lifelong negative side effects of these poisons because if they did they would certainly never use terms like this. Their ignorance is only surpassed by their arrogance.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Terms Anti-Vax and Vaccine Hesitant were crafted.

We could easily call users of vaxes, Health-Deniers...

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JimB's avatar

Peter ,,,, I think your on to something ,let’s call them NID’s.

NID = Natural Immunity Denier.

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R Nichols's avatar

And Coincidence Theorists.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

perfect brother!!

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Paving the Way's avatar

Same as racist, sexist, transphobic etc. Labels meant to discredit instead of engage.

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Christine the Strawberry Girl's avatar

I called my ex friend, an er doc, a drug attic when she told me she had to get her 5th pfizer and all the prerequisite flu shots too. Sufficient to say we no longer speak. I just can’t understand that level of brainwashed!

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Karyne's avatar

Hahaha. Yes. There are a few more I could add to your list but civility overcomes my desire for rudeness.

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Tom's avatar

What about “KoolAid Drinker”? ;)

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

yes the "hesitant" is a HOOT!

ADAMANT is my word

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Dawn's avatar

Thank you ArtyD, I am one of those parents warning after my kid was injured. I have been excoriated for years about it.

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Neutron Flux's avatar

Ironically, peanut allergies (and egg, wheat, dairy, shellfish, asthma) may well be connected to childhood vax side effects. I went to school in the 80's and 90's and there weren't friggin EpiPens everywhere. Yet another pharma side effect rort.

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Dawn's avatar

Exactly! There were no food allergies in my family, then my 4th became allergic to milk overnight after the dpt. I learned there are bovine milk proteins in the dpt shot. It programmed her body to see milk proteins as antigens. I stopped all Vs then and researched for hundreds of hours.

I graduated HS in 1990. I knew no one with autism or food allergies in school in a large district school. Since the 1986 act, all of it has skyrocketed.

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

they began putting pnut oil in the jabs and it made everyone allergic......i saw a great docu on it but its memory holed even beyond the way back machine now.

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R Nichols's avatar

It wasn't a problem when I was a kid. We had MMR's and maybe polio shots. That was it. No flu shots. (They don't work I've noticed.)

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Guido's avatar

I suspect you received a LOT more than just those few vaccines. I got mine at around 2yrs old in 1965 and it was 17 shots at once. Left a scar on my arm that looked like a cigar burn, which has moved up my arm and over my shoulder. I would have never even known about it, except that I happened across an old picture of Dad holding me, while in a diaper, and I had to ask Mom, "What the heck is that on my arm ??" It happened before I developed very many memories, so I would have never known.

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R Nichols's avatar

Maybe. I was born in the early seventies.

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Guido's avatar

They pulled the plug on the 17 shot blaster at around 1968-1970, not sure precisely when, but it was because it caused to many issues, .... aside from the fat scar it left. But that didn't mean they stopped all those 17 vaccines, it just meant they spread them out a bit, so they were all-in by the time a kid is 4 or 5 yrs old.

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R Nichols's avatar

I remember getting a painful shot with little needles in my back at age 5. Missed out on a day or two of kindergarten because I got sick with a fever afterwards. Had a sore between my shoulder blades that itched for many days.

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Guido's avatar

BAM !!

I wonder, .....

A graph showing the total quantity of different childhood illnesses, syndromes & disorders 1968-2023.

A graph showing the increase in total quantity of different vaccines required. 1968-2023.

Do you just use the same graph and slap a different description on it ?? lol

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Delphi Pilgrim's avatar

Like Edward Dowd commented - they will double down, triple down, until the whole shit-show bursts into flames.

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Karyne's avatar

Let’s hope it does burst into flames. Ed Dowd is a hero. Thank goodness we have him and the others fighting for the truth.

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Delphi Pilgrim's avatar

Momentum seems to be gathering - ridiculing the ridiculous is righteous

https://rumble.com/v24thiy-the-kaufman-institute-for-coincidence.html

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Karyne's avatar

Haha. Thanks. I presume the Kaufman reference is Andrew Kaufman. Or is it just a coincidence?

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Ned B.'s avatar

It's a play on the words, "cough, man."

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Delphi Pilgrim's avatar

Coinkydinks at every turn 😉

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Just a Clinician's avatar

It will. And soon.

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Anna Karenina's avatar

Amen sista! I am thankful for warrior parents like you who spoke out relentlessly for decades about the dangers of the juices and was willing to share countless amounts of data to prove their stance. I listened and learned and have a healthy child because of it. I will be forever grateful.

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Dawn's avatar

That’s great to hear! I always hope we are making a difference.

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AliceJKeen's avatar

Yes. I knew this almost twenty years ago. And it once came up at a children's party, which my son was at in around 2010. The (psychotherapist) host mother mentioned childhood vaccines to me. I said my son's vaccines stopped after the first baby ones - I didn't bother to elaborate on that, either the details or my thoughts - and WOW I was set upon by this woman I thought was my friend, plus several other women, blaming me for all kinds of terrible imaginary outcomes! I didn't bother defending my viewpoint, since it was my business not theirs. After that, I felt I had the more exact measure of this woman who I had thought intelligent and interesting. And I learnt to keep quiet. But not any more!

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Karyne's avatar

I pity the poor clients of the psychotherapist. What type of therapist thinks its ok to attack someone for their beliefs.

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Guido's avatar

Well, those dolts eating the crow, should smear some peanut butter on it. It may help the flavor.

It might also make it harder to swallow said Crow and result in choking to death, .... so there's that too. lol

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joe jacovino's avatar

looks like they guessed that if they could give all those kids autism and cover it up so fantastically, then the world was primed and ready for this mass orchestrated mass murder

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Karyne's avatar

Well said sir.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

It was horrible. I'd see stupid memes on Facebook about vaccinating your crotch rockets and the like. Crotch rockets? What an offensive term for both mother and child that discredits the most sacred holy bond in the entire cycle of life. Most were from nonparents but the I couldn't help but think that the vindictively pro jab mothers were taking out on their children their own hatred of themselves for failing their children...

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

How have you not sought retribution?

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

We are disappointed and angry that they failed to do their jobs. Hold them all accountable, especially Ashish Jha.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Hang them high for all to see.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

Up against the wall or dangling from a rope.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Yes! That would be a sight!

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

That is putting very, very mildly. Fuming over their corruption and criminal actions would be more accurate. For a start, charge ALL staff that made a move from the FDA to any of the Harma organizations and then go on systematically through the current/past staff members.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

They all at the FDA and CDC need to be injected on the vaccine schedule that Pfizer advised and they passed on to the public. Every 5-6 month with catch up injections. Each one of them at the FDA and CDC that is still working there. They are complicit.

They have had plenty of opportunity in the last 3 years to speak up! They did NOT!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

I like that idea!

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Mystic William's avatar

How about not approving anything unless you’ve had time to review everything? “You handed us this yesterday? Okay we will put you on the agenda for next month.”

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Igor Chudov's avatar

That would be too honest for FDA advisers

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JimB's avatar

It’s kind of like “ we have to pass the bill to see what’s in the bill”.

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OldSysEng's avatar

Too much time would tarnish "the excuse".

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Mystic William's avatar

Very true. “I’m sorry everyone died. It isn’t our fault. They didn’t give us enough time to review it. You see they were on the agenda that day and it’s our policy not to change the agenda.”

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Woody's avatar

Are the advisers paid by the FDA or by the drug companies?

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Haha spot on, Igor!

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jean's avatar

It is like the political world, "you have to pass the bill into law before you can read it. Except medical science gives injection then watches (or turns a blind eye) the results. Too bad amnesia is not one of the adverse events!

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Bandit's avatar

Yeah, that statement from Nasty Piglosi about Obamacare pissed me off to no end...and it still does. 🤬🤬🤬

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Me too!

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JimB's avatar

Wow, I just posted the same then scrolled down and saw your comment.

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Robert Mitchell's avatar

So, I've submitted a couple of 510K's to the FDA and you don't submit until you have EVERYTHING. Then they review and if they have comments or questions, they come back to you and you have to supply more data until they are satisfied. And these were for software apps, not pharmaceuticals being injected into billions of people.

The FDA has a process that is very long and arduous for a reason. It's not that the process doesn't exist, or the FDA reviewers are incompetent. This process for this drug was VERY different. I've never seen anything like it.

There have been public disagreements within the FDA and resignations. Yet the drug is pushed through. It's completely ridiculous for this FDA person to now say that they didn't have enough time to review but they approved it anyway. That's BS.

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Tom's avatar

You have my sympathy. The FDA/CDC now needs dismantling. Maybe that’s Big Pharma’s objective…to completely eliminate the watchdogs by first destroying their credibility.

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Kim's avatar

There are so many disparate data points throughout the covid years and one naturally tries to plot them all in a way they make sense when combined. I find the most compelling, the story that seems to capture all the data points is: this was a program run by the DoD, international in scope, not for our benefit but turned against us. As Katherine Watt, Karen Kingston and many others say, covid (the original sequence from China and the shots) is a bioweapon. I really try to find some occurrence that disproves this, but so far, no luck.

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Kim's avatar

No. They must move at the speed of science.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

It is more like the speed of the fund transfers from the big Harma.

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CMCM's avatar

With the proper discussion and scrutiny, the speed of science should actually be very slow!

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Kim's avatar

right. that's what made that woman's comment the height of absurdity.

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Tom's avatar

The truth no longer appears to hold any value whatsoever for anyone in government. Simply craft a self-serving lie instead and be done with it. They’ll all cover for each other.

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Kim's avatar

Exactly. Yesterday I read the CDC was saying the unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to get sick than the vaccinated. They don't even bother to attempt to substantiate it. I can only think this is a method to drive people insane. One group says you're more likely to die if unvaccinated, the other group says the opposite. Confusion ensues. Maybe that's the point.

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Tom's avatar

Lies that the vaccinated WANT to hear.

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Tom's avatar

The CDC and FDA are the last people on earth I would take medical advice from. We need to record who said every one of these lies. The only people who listen to them are the jabbed who lap it right up. The incessant lying over the past 3 years has been biblical. They can’t possibly believe they’re changing anyones mind. Thank God for Substack…one of the few sane refuges on the web.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

They were extremely well motivated by their utmost care for their ... bank accounts. Why wait for the pay off for another month?

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, they have turned the precautionary principle completely upside down and inside out.

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Super Spreader's avatar

This is step one. They are preparing to burn the CDC and FDA so people are more amenable to a global organization controlling health.

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R Nichols's avatar

According to Catherine Austin Fitts the technocrats want to undermine public trust in federal governments to bring about globalism.

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Guido's avatar

Yeah, but with any luck, it will bring about mass rebellion rather than global tyranny.

I mean who doesn't already Hate the U.N. More than they currently despise their own government ? Oh, yeah, the Sleepers !!

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Super Spreader's avatar

She is a very smart lady. I watch her interviews whenever I can.

I think she is correct about what they want and their strategy.

I believe they will fail, but it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

agreed

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Just a Clinician's avatar

They're massively wrong if they think we'd trust a global...anything.

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Bandit's avatar

Seems to me the governments are doing a pretty good job of playing along.

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Robyn S's avatar

Could be, could be...

I guess if enough people screw up the organisations within each country, surely a 'global' approach might sound a lot more functional to the masses...right...? :-\

But I look at it like this: if the locals are screwing it up, the non-locals will only screw it up further! Of course, so many fingers have been in so many pies, anyway, so who would really notice the difference anymore...but if they swing it the way you're suggesting on MSM, then yeah, it'll sell alright.

Humans really do love jumping from the pan to the fire, don't they?! In more recent years, though, it seems we're all permanently on fire!!

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ChrisCoonsToupee's avatar

The "Long March Through the Institutions" was/is real.

NONE of this is by ACCIDENT.

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Bandit's avatar

🙌 An organization that could give a shit less about who, if anyone, lives or dies. Probably wanting death in most cases.

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Mig's avatar

To me it looks like that is in fact the very real epidemic: all organizations, companies, governments, schools, universities...they all couldn't care less about all but themselves and so do all people that work for them. If you do care you cannot work for organizations who don't support your caring work at all. If you don't be puged on by your careless collegues as well at least. And it is getting worse and worse.

One of the best examples that ignorance is the norm at best, and way out of any understandig proportions/contexts for mentally healthy people, is the fact that Pfizer wanted inject everybody globally with his so called safe and affective stuff, and had injected millions and millions and after lots of deaths, illnesses and injured people..Pfizer did not agree on doing what they should have done willingly out of themselves, and that is publicating their testresults of the trials they did and which proved the vaxx safe and effective, but said to do this in about 75 years.

And after saying that, the police did not came to arrest to them. No did any injured person or someone who lost someone to vaxx kill the pfizer people who told this, like it is a normal thing to do.

The only (normal) thing they had to do, was to say sorry. Every 5 minutes, en after that saying that the investigations would start immedeatly to discover where it went wrong. In the meanwhile they should have asked to stop vaccination immedeatly globally.

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Good point.

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Guido's avatar

Yeah, I think that is very likely. ..........

03/24/2022: PANDEMIC TREATY: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/pandemic-treaty

03/25/2022: The People's Treaty: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-peoples-treaty

03/28/2022: SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/speaking-truth-to-power

03/31/2022: WAKE UP and Smell the Burning of Our Constitution: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/wake-up-and-smell-the-burning-of

04/01/2022: Abolish The WHO: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/abolish-the-who

04/04/2022: PANDEMIC MITIGATION PROJECT: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/pandemic-mitigation-project

04/07/2022: An Open Letter To The WHO: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-the-who

04/29/2022: SOUND THE ALARM: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/sound-the-alarm

05/09/2022: SEND THIS EMAIL TO CONGRESS: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/send-this-email-to-congress

05/16/2022: NEWSPEAK: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/newspeak

05/17/2022: SEEKING CLARIFICATION: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/seeking-clarification?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

05/22/2022: Questions: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/questions

05/22/2022: TURN UP THE HEAT: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/turn-up-the-heat

05/23/2022: WE'VE GOT OUR EYE ON WHO...: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/weve-got-our-eye-on-who

06/01/2022: I AM SO PISSED OFF !: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/i-am-so-pissed-off-

07/14/2022: TEN THINGS EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THE WHO'S PROPOSED "PANDEMIC TREATY": https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/ten-things-everyone-needs-to-know

08/18/2022: Get the United States OUT of the United Nations and The World Health Organization A.S.A.P.: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/get-the-united-states-out-of-the

08/27/2022: What is the government of the United Kingdom hiding?: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/what-is-the-government-of-the-united

09/02/2022: StopTheWHO.com: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/stopthewhocom

09/09/2022: Screw The WHO !: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/screw-the-who

09/15/2022: Gowf Ukyerzelf: (Pure Sarcasm, The Dry Crispy Kind) https://www.bitchute.com/video/i2VDX2IVPgsS/

09/20/2022: WHO: Informal Focused Consultation #1: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/who-informal-focused-consultation

09/21/2022: I Thought the Lancet was a Medical Journal - Jeffrey Sachs is clearly a fan of Tedros and the WHO: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/i-thought-the-lancet-was-a-medical

09/27/2022: World Health Organization Virtual Press Conference on Global Health Issues: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/world-health-organization-virtual

09/15/2022: The Lancet COVID-19 Commission Report Launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6zFzQPHP4

JEFFREY SACHS DISCUSSES THE LANCET COVID-19 COMMISSION REPORT (Sachs Is A Economist !!! Let THAT Sink IN !!) https://www.bitchute.com/video/4sh6OKakLruw/

09/28/2022: World Health Organization Public Hearings: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/world-health-organization-public

10/05/2022: The Second WHO Informal Focused Consultation: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-second-who-informal-focused-consultation https://inb.who.int/home/informal-focused-consultations

10/09/2022: The People's Amendments to the International Health Regulations: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-peoples-amendments-to-the-international

10/22/2022: NO MORE SECRETS!: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/no-more-secrets

10/24/2022: Secret Meetings at the WHO: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/secret-meetings-at-the-who

10/28/2022: Why the Secrecy? The WHO is keeping information hidden from We the People of the World. So what else is new?: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/why-the-secrecy

10/30/2022: Did You Know? - The WHO has been secretly discussing proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations and they have no plans to allow for public comment. So much for "transparency!": https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/did-you-know

11/01/2022: Another Open Letter to the World Health Organization: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/another-open-letter-to-the-world

11/10/2022: EXPOSING CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITHIN THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION:

Shabnam Palesa Mohamed (South Africa): https://www.bitchute.com/video/szuMnzyVj0Aa/

11/18/2022: RIGHT NOW would be a very good time to wake up! The "G20 Bali Leaders' Declaration" exposed the "secret" that I have been trying to warn the world about for months: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/right-now-would-be-a-very-good-time

11/18/2022: Here is the World Health Organization's advance copy of the "Conceptual Zero Draft" of their proposed "Pandemic Treaty.": https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/conceptual-zero-draft PDF: https://www.keionline.org/wp-content/uploads/ADVANCE_for_16_November_A_INB3_3_E.pdf

11/20/2022: PHEIC - The Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex (PHEIC) is attempting to colonize the developing world via the proposed "Pandemic Treaty," which has been renamed: WHO CA+: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/pheic

11/22/2022: Exposing Trickery: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/exposing-trickery

11/25/2022: PANDEMIC TREATY UPDATE - The Intergovernmental Negotiating Body just released details regarding their upcoming meeting (December 5-7, 2022) regarding the World Health Organization's proposed "Pandemic Treaty." https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/pandemic-treaty-update

11/26/2022: PANDEMIC TREATY: https://www.bitchute.com/video/btgEvjCGoG2B/

11/28/2022: NEW ZEALAND - A small crack has emerged in the Great Wall of Secrecy. Many thanks to Greg R. of New Zealand for submitting a Freedom of Information request to obtain this information. It is much appreciated!: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/new-zealand

11/29/2022: A friendly, open and urgent letter to Professor Lawrence Oglethorpe Gostin...: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/a-friendly-open-and-urgent-letter

11/29/2022: YOU CAN STICK YOUR VACCINE PASSPORT UP YOUR ASS !!: (Sing Along) https://www.bitchute.com/video/va9JdfWYD2sT/

12/04/2022: Three Days That Will Live In Infamy - December 5-7, 2022. The WHO will be meeting to discuss the proposed "Pandemic Treaty." Please share this article with everyone you know, especially with members of the alternative media: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/three-days-that-will-live-in-infamy:

12/04/2022: Non Roguski: Preparations to implement WHO’s Pandemic Treaty march forward

as World Bank creates the largest fund ever for global pandemics: https://expose-news.com/2022/12/04/preparations-to-implement-whos-pandemic-treaty/

12/04/2022: Not Directly Roguski, but is heavily sourced In Article. Preparations to implement WHO’s Pandemic Treaty march forward as World Bank creates the largest fund ever for global pandemics: https://prepareforchange.net/2022/12/23/preparations-to-implement-whos-pandemic-treaty-march-forward-as-world-bank-creates-the-largest-fund-ever-for-global-pandemics https://expose-news.com/2022/12/04/preparations-to-implement-whos-pandemic-treaty/

12/07/2022: INTERGOVERNMENTAL NEGOTIATING BODY THIRD MEETING DAY 1 SESSION 1:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QK61d5uCNS4Y/

12/16/2022: RED ALERT! WHO Has Written a REMOVAL of Human Dignity, Rights & Freedom - James Roguski: https://rumble.com/v2103qw-uncensored-red-alert-who-has-written-a-removal-of-human-dignity-rights-and-.html

12/16/2022: The Proposed Amendments to The International Health Regulations: (WHO Coronating Bill Gates Through The Back Door !!) https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-proposed-amendments-to-the-international

12/17/2022: KISS - The proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations are A VERY BAD IDEA THAT MUST BE STOPPED RIGHT NOW. https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/kiss

12/17/2022: Powering up the WHO: be alert and alarmed !! Why proposed changes to the International Health Regulations are a VERY BAD idea: https://libbyklein.substack.com/p/powering-up-the-who-be-alert-and

12/18/2022: A Statement by Michele Bachmann - "I highly urge every individual to vehemently oppose the proposed rules and to understand what a massive overreach this would be by the World Health Organization, if these amendments are adopted." https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/a-statement-by-michele-bachmann

12/22/2022: The WHO's Pandemic Treaty Just Broke Itself - I know that hypocrisy is rampant in the world today, but the latest example of WHO's hypocrisy is just too blatant!: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-whos-pandemic-treaty-just-broke

12/23/2022: Giving Billion$ to the Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex (PHEIC). The "Pandemic Fund" would probably do more good if they spent the $1.6 billion dollars that they have raised so far, on toilets and septic systems for communities that need them: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/giving-billion-to-the-pharmaceutical

01/03/2023: SECRET NEGOTIATIONS - The super-secret International Health Regulations Review Committee (IHRRC) is scheduled to meet January 9-13, 2023. They plan to submit the amendments on January 15, 2023. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT: https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/secret-negotiations

01/05/2023: 100 Reasons - THE TOP 100 REASONS TO #StopTheTreaty, #StopTheAmendments, and #ExitTheWHO. The World Health Organization's attempted POWER GRAB must be stopped. Please help spread the word. https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/100-reasons

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Danny Huckabee's avatar

They are very, very angry! And they should send a strongly worded letter to Moderna rigorously castigating them not showing the data! I'm certain that the FDA advisers will not attend Moderna's Holiday Party this year as punishment!

Take that, Moderna!

Danny Huckabee

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Mystic William's avatar

I’m okay with pandemic amnesty if that means merely life in prison instead of hanging. Sort of cutting them pandemic amnesty deals.

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Kate's avatar

Nuremberg II. Hanging.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Yes. Hoarding rope now!

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Tom's avatar

Piano wire might hold up better?

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

Messier clean up cos the heads come off. we have a lot to get thru, time saving is important when mass executions are required.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Guitar strings!

(They can also be used to give improvised tattoos, or so I've heard)

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CMCM's avatar

I just saw a website selling t-shirts with the words Nuremberg 2 on them. I may order one!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

What??? I’ll order one too. Please post link!

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Yuma's Freezing's avatar

D. All of the above.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

All those guillotines DHS supposedly has...

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Yuma's Freezing's avatar

They deserve hanging! I'll settle for leprosy though. Once again, it is proven that doctors et. al., can read but they don't.

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Guido's avatar

How about doing them like the victims in Motel Hell ? They aren't killed, (at least not initially) but buried up to their necks in the ground, .... which would sure make it a lot easier to piss in their faces. lol

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Then douse their heads with honey, and let the ants finish them off....

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Yuma's Freezing's avatar

Imma sticking with leprosy. Maybe concurrently with Nuremburg 2.0?

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Just a Clinician's avatar

Meh. Takes too long. And is treatable.

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Robert Mitchell's avatar

Only if they have important evidence to implicate a higher up. Otherwise, get the ropes.

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Conway Judge's avatar

The FDA might be disappointed with Murderna.

But I am disappointed with the FDA.

For how can you highly paid, highly credentialed folk with PhDs and huge salaries overlook what was shouted from the hilltops, repeatedly, again and again!

Submissions were submitted, letters were sent.

Poems were written about the eight blind (and dead) mice.

The antibody titer studies were as predictable as throwing dice.

And now, you suddenly realize you might have been mislead.

How many people had to 'suddenly' drop dead?

For you to do your f*cking job.

Do you even regulate medicines anymore,

Or just suck Bill Gates knob?

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Guido's avatar

LOL Reminds me of an old joke, about Neil and Bob.

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Conway Judge's avatar

Oh do tell.

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Guido's avatar

It was a long time ago in the 80's and I can never remember exactly how old jokes are worded, but I distinctly recall Neil and Bob were not people, but directives.

Kneel & Bob. lol

Or more succinctly said .... Suck It.

So yeah, The FDA is totally blowing Gates.

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Porge's avatar

I got it without the explanation!lol

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Shane Bartraw's avatar

Hang the bastards. Every last one as far as I’m concerned. Thousands of people died and Thousands now have permanent damage.

#crimesagainsthumanity

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Joe Meccia's avatar

Actually hanging them is the easiest and quickest way out. for them.....Maybe the jabs taken once a week until their demise would be more fitting.....Sorry....my anger got in the way.....Rid this earth of all of them as soon as possible.........

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Guido's avatar

Building a gallows is not quick or easy. Kak, Kak, Kak !!!

Suicide is the quick and easy way out for them, ... even if it is Arkancide with two rounds to back of head. lol

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

thats why you sling a rope up over a tree branch or lampost or a bridge. it takes only seconds to slip it over your head and haul them up which is far worse for them than a short drop.

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Guido's avatar

Yeah, but who wants to have to hoist someone's weight up off their tip-toes ??

Can use a horse, or a car to hoist them up, but gravity works easier.

Easier to use a $0.50 cent round and leave them where they fall and move on. lol

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aj's avatar

millions died

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Fauci lied, millions died

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

Fraudci or Dr. Mengele Angel of death please. This is what he should be called.

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I would put many likes if I could. They are responsible for death of millions by denying treatment. I had two generations of doctors in my family: my parents and my grandfather. Real doctors with old medical ethics. My mom, in her nineties, was in continuing shock over the last three years asking again and again: why don’t they treat people as soon as they experience symptoms? Why don’t they do everything possible to help sick? Millions were put on ventilators and died not given any other treatment. Millions died because they were not candidates for ventilators and might have different symptoms and were turned away from hospitals to die at home. I have so many stories from my own family and families of my acquaintances. I will never forget.

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

$ 30,000. reimbursement for a vent patient to hospital whether they lived or died.

Fraudci forgot to incentivize to keep them alive.

Seriously, like they do for transplant patients, the hospitals get around 1.8 million but are rated if they are still alive at 1 year out. They should have done that with the Covid patients if they wanted them to be kept alive. Instead they incentivized 20 % extra billing for the renal toxic Remdesivir , dead fairly quickly with that. The hospital staff knows what kills the patients. They constantly run tests and get the results every day.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

That is correct. They speciously claimed that ventilators would prevent the virus from being aerosolized and spread compared to less invasive ways of delivering oxygen, a claim they later quietly walked back once the "fog of war" had partially lifted.

How will they ever live this down?

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Charlotte's avatar

Even now- still no official protocol for doctors and hospitals other than crap paxlovid and monulpurivir. Unbelievable where we are!

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Official protocol* from CDC, According to Dr. Pierre Kory, during March/Apr 2020 was:

- Definitely don't give steroids

- Tylenol for discomfort

- Go home until you have trouble breathing

That's what CDC gave to the Hospital Admins. Unreal.

* recall from a Kory podcast

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

And certainly no antibiotics either, even though that was the pre-pandemic standard of care for pneumonia.

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Porge's avatar

Yes! I was denied antibiotics when I had Delta pneumonia! Fuckin bastards!

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

FLCCC and AFLD have always had official protocols that have worked and testified about them.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Yes of course. Front-Line Docs were awesome in response to PATIENT CARE; CDC & FraudChi, not so much.

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Zefram's avatar

I know (knew) a victim of their denial of early treatment.

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

and how many young folk killed themselves because they couldnt see an end to what was literally criminal insanity..............with adults around them completly castrated and compliant with nonsense.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

When all is said and done, the total body count will most likely rival or exceed Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, COMBINED.

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Karyne's avatar

Your last sentence nails it.

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Level The Matrix's avatar

Pandemic amnesty? How about a quick pandemic bullet or rope? I like that idea better.

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Kim's avatar

I think I'd rather give them boosters - but we pick the batch.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

My thoughts exactly!

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Janet's avatar

Massive Stroke confined to their bed and peeing into a bag and unable to speak but can hear and see a TV with Whoopi Goldberg whine and pontificate 24/7. Sure throw in Behar too. Colbert for some non comic relief. Don’t forget the spike drip.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Instead play videos of the truth censored doctors. They like Whoopi and Colbert !

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Janet's avatar

You’re correct. My bad. Ok. Just pull the plugs then.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

A taste of their own "medicine", literally! Poetic justice.

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Cindi's avatar

My God, the FDA just RECENTLY “approved” the poison for 6 months to 5 years. Knowing there is no short or long term data except how mRNA worked out for the animal subjects (death) for decades up to 2020. Inject the lot - not just FDA, ALL INVOLVED

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

riddle me this...........right in the beginning I was lurking at VAERS waiting for the incoming casualties. It began with the old folk who got the first jabs.............interspersed were a few babies and tots. Mothers so scared of covid theyd i dunno, bribed or weedled or maybe just walked straight in and got their babies jabbed................outcome 2 minutes late dead baby. People are insane and the I assume wal mart jabbers who had 5 mins training on how to jab when they wernt ringing thru groceries likely have no idea how many they killed.

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Sheila Dunphy's avatar

Why bother having an FDA???

All they do is take bribes to allow companies to sell us poison?!?

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pimaCanyon's avatar

The only real fix is to completely disband the FDA, CDC, AMA, and WHO. And prison time for the heads of those organizations and everyone inside those organizations who had anything to do with the covid response or the covid jabs.

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Mig's avatar

Exactly! And you also gave the reason why they do exist.

The only mistake we make is that we think that organizations, people, companies etc who make money, do work for us. So for our sake and to serve us. Because for example we must pay for their fabricats, things, services etc, paying them directly or by taxpaying.

If we dare to see that we completely blindly trusted those lying guys for decades made them lazier and lazier because they were payed by us anyway. We did this ourselves!!!

It is a good idea to imagine all, for example Pfizer/FDA/WHO/WEF/our governments globally... are working for themselves instead of us.

And what they do for us being placed in the correct context: it is the least they could do for us to make it look like they have all their priorities whit us.

You will see that it than fitts al perfectly...

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R Nichols's avatar

They get paid by the government even if it comes from taxes. They work for them. Not those they "help."

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R Nichols's avatar

To make Big Harma LOOK respectable and trustworthy. The FDA recycles Big Harma workers and vice versa. Incestuous.

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Joe Meccia's avatar

Rats jumping ship!! Point the finger and turn on your accomplices. Remember the movie 'Goodfellas'? A whole team of crooks involved in a giant airline shipment heist! They pulled it off...but......greed and paranoia got in the way....Alas.. the leaders decided to pick off each accomplice one by one... and eventually it lead to the entire downfall.......HERE IT IS! Same scenario!!

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Cal Aylmer's avatar

I'm sensing "sudden fires" outbreaking with some DEW help to just so happen to destroy the Vaers data base records. maybe they can blame it on angry anti vaxxers.

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Guido's avatar

And the dolt masses will eat it up too. The leftist masses never pass up another opportunity for "Othering", even though the premise of that accusation is absolutely contrary, since the "Anti-Vaxxers" would prefer VAERS be made mandatory and greatly expanded, not destroyed. But they won't notice the finer points of the argument, being in such a hurry to blame anyone but themselves.

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Andy Expresso's avatar

I read the last half of your comment in Ray Liotta's voice

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Joe Meccia's avatar

We need some levity!!!

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Joe Meccia's avatar

Yes! A Goodfellas guy!!

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Daria Schooler's avatar

NO AMNESTY.

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Mig's avatar

They only ask for amnesty to pretend that should be a possibility, because of the crimes they comitted aren't not that severe...which of course the are! . It is very very 'not done' and it also is being suggested to make clear that they are not responsible, they didn't know better and it happed all so fast...and of course the amnesty asking question is ment to say tot us very clearly that they are/or 'cannot' be held responsible, because they 'couldn't help it'.

Asking for amnesty is maybe also brought up to distract us all from something important for their own interests...

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Freedomisnotfree's avatar

We need to completely ignore this. Do not even repeat the word.

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

No amnesty. Not ever.

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Mauro's avatar

No forgiveness. They had all the time in the world to repent. No use repenting AFTER shit hits the fan

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Guido's avatar

This made me think of that one scene in Scarface with the detective on his knees, polling on Montana's pant leg, begging for his life, before Pacino says "I'm not going to kill you", as he instructs someone else to "Shoot this piece of shit !!"

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jean's avatar

Repentance is often a masquerade the guilty use as a last defense. Repentance is between God and the sinner and we all need that. But, the results of that sin have eventualities in the physical world where laws, courts, prosecutors, judges, fines , penalties and judges. Repentance and forgiveness are spiritual and we all benefit.

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Kai Hackemesser's avatar

As far as I know all vaccine tests are based on antibody-titer - if they test them at all. They also never test them against saline solution in the control group, always to the carrier solution with all the adjuvants, so if the adjuvants cause side effects, they also do so in the control group and are though eradicated as measured side effects of the vaccine. Cheeky bastards they are.

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