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Julia's avatar

They're supposed to offer a religious exemption. Nevertheless, it's all about compliance, whether an employee takes the shot or submits an exemption. A friend of mine with a big group of co-workers refused to take the shot and went to court right away. They didn't succeed (there is a second lawsuit, pending). Then they got denied religious exemptions as a punishment for suing. The city also offered some deal to the leader of the group and treated him differently to break apart the movement.

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Guidothekp's avatar

Any form of exemption is still a discrimination. The message is that we control you and we will allow some of you to escape the punishment because we feel so. When one talks of applying for exemptions, one starts from a position where one has accepted that one is inferior. At that point, it is game-over irrespective of whether the exemption is granted or not.

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GaryP's avatar

Any US company had only one legal option for a religious exemption.

Q: Do you apply for a religious exemption?

A: Yes

Reply: granted.

Anything else, any demand for a detailed explanation for the request was blatant religious discrimination. Appointing some person to sit in judgement of the detailed explanation is a horror that demands extremely high punitive damage payments from every executive, manager, and HR personal involved. Especially the legal staff!

Fellow 3M stockholders. We are screwed. The company mandatory online ethical behavior classes prove beyond any reasonable doubt they are guilty. They violated everything their own classes taught.

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Malignant's avatar

Offering one, then rejecting it are two different things..

And excuse my language but, fuck them. All of history has been people killing other people for their different religions. Why should my deeply held beliefs be in a database somewhere.

It would be naive to think there will never be a knock at your door, asking about your religious beliefs…

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Julia's avatar

Correct, there is also an issue of privacy. An employer can only ask for private info (medical or religious) that is relevant to performing the job. And people were performing the job just fine without the shot. Employer can say "we require the shot" but they can't ask whether employees took it! It's a loophole. This was my proposed strategy but it never got tested as the employer withdrew the requirement. Many private companies withdrew it after collecting personal info from people. Never mind!

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The Word Herder's avatar

The employer can ask this or that, but they can find out on the Internet!

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The Word Herder's avatar

"Do you believe in the JAB?"

BANG!

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The Word Herder's avatar

Why should ANYTHING of our private lives be in a database somewhere.

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Lisa@eatrealfood's avatar

Conscientious objection to give or receive experimental injections is a religious exemption.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

These people are really good at divide and conquer - infiltrate and misdirect the original group goal is another tactic that is used.

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Joe Kosugi's avatar

Yes, their idea of a religious exemption is, “ take this shot and you can meet God firsthand. You’re exempt from being alive. And we’re exempt from liability and taxes”.

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