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Lisa's avatar

Long covid existed before the vaccines, there were thousands of victims in 2020… then vaccine injury started happening later on…. I don’t understand why people don’t think it can be both. Spike is spike… it’s very logical both spike providers cause long term diseases… maybe it’s just too depressing to handle the truth since we all had covid and we are dealing with the spike… everyone should be trying to detox the spike protein wherever it came from…like code Red, no?

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Lisa's avatar

Exactly, spike is spike..

I wish everyone would be reasonable like you and face what we are dealing with… that way there would be more pressure to stop GOF … the belief covid is fine and it’s only vax that’s bad let’s the GOF crime against humanity off the hook…

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Bigs's avatar

You're talking to yourself again...

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Peter W's avatar

40 years ago a friend of mine had ME/CFS and it took 4 years to improve. A previously healthy farmer. No one knew what caused it but just maybe vaccine though, as far as I know, he didn't even have a flue jab. These days it would be labelled "long covid".

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Lisa's avatar

He’s lucky he improved, most do not…. ½ people with long covid have me/CFS type symptoms… seems to me vaccines and viruses stress the body and cause this by reactivating other viruses… kind of like shingles … it’s all the similar.. it’s mostly from reactivated EBV with covid I think ( and the vax)

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Lisa's avatar

Yes, they can be so similar… the increased numbers of it tell us it’s something new and it often is around month or 2 or 3 after mild covid infection… friend was so lucky to recover from ME/CFS… 5% chance!

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