Many people expressed skepticism about "Covid tests". You are right to be skeptical, but...
There are two types of tests, PCR tests (done in a lab) and rapid antigen tests. PCR tests at high cycles are much more prone to false positives. The rapid tests are less prone to false positives. I used a rapid test. (I had other colds in the past 2 years, two IIRC, and the same tests were negative)
Also the health authorities are no longer interested in inflating covid numbers. Quite the opposite, actually.
I have Covid again, too. Unvaxxed. It's been 4 days and I only have sinus stuffiness, now. I forgot the Melatonin! Glad I looked closely at your pic. I knew I was forgetting something.
It was milder than the first time in every way, except the stuffy nose. I had no sinus issues at all, the first time. I lost my sense of smell again today, too. Last time, SInuOrego nasal spray brought it right back...hope it does the same, this time.
You really should be taking vitamin A with vitamin D. The two vitamins are synergistic and cancel out each other's toxic effects. Or at least that's what the Weston Price website says. I was taking both when I first got COVID. I was taking 3 vitamin A a day for a while until it gave me an itchy scalp so I dropped it to 1-2. Also best to take it with vitamin K2. A lot of studies show no effect from vitamin A or D but that's because they don't use them together.
Hope your smell came back... I used Sinu-Orego nasal spray twice (1X daily) and mine came back. I did it once more just to be sure. It's anecdotal, but it worked for me...
Covid? OMG!!! Quick Igor, double mask and hurray to the hospital! Make sure you get the shot and the three boosters right away. Don't forget the Paxlovid for good measure. You might still be saved. You're lucky you're not already dead. For God's sake, don't you know that Covid is a pandemic of the unvaxxed? And please, PLEASE, isolate yourself, especially from the fully vaxxed - you might kill someone's Grandma!
I had a closer look at those tests. Here's what I found:
In a lab setting, they seem to be quite specific, with 2 exceptions:
1. They cross react with SARS-CoV-1 because the N protein is nearly 88% similar which opens a whole new can of worms: How many other SARS-like viruses are out there the tests can cross react with? Supposedly none because SARS-CoV-2 is the only SARS-like virus that is currently circulating, right? But we don't know that, do we?
2. Some of the tests haven't been evaluated for cross reactivity with HKU1 which also happens to be a betacoronavirus due to the lack of samples. They just assume there would be no cross reactivity because the N protein is only like 40% similar.
I don't have a clue really. First, the tests react to acidic pH, so if you don't precisely follow the instructions, you could trigger a positive result in the absence if any pathogen. Next, even if done correctly, just because the manufacturer has found no cross reactivity in a lab doesn't mean there is none in a real world setting. What you would need is a large number of positive samples from real people (a few hundred maybe), then do PCR confirmation and then you could calculate a false positive rate. I don't know if such a study has been done.
Common sense would suggest that a test with 99% specificity would return only about 1 in a 100 false positive results. But this is not how it works. The false positive rate is far higher when disease prevalence is as low as the studies have found. The PPV of screening testing is very low when background prevalence is low (Bokhorst et al. 2012; Skittrall et al. 2020; Dinnes et al. 2021).
If 1,000 people randomly in a population where 1% have the illness at issue, and the test is 99% specific, we will have one true positive and one false positive for each 100 tests. So testing 1,000 people results in 10 true positives and 10 false positives.
Using BMJ's very own test accuracy calculator to calculate (based on available real-world background prevalence data and test accuracy data) and with a conservative assumption of 1% pre-test probability of active infection (a higher level of active infection than was found in the large vaccine clinical trials) and also assuming 58% sensitivity and 99% specificity, which are the findings of Cochrane meta-analysis combining studies of antigen test accuracy, when used to test asymptomatic cases (Dinnes, J. et al. 2021), the result in this scenario is 50% false positives (1 true positive and 1 false positive) even with a 99% specificity test.
50% is the same as random chance. In other words, this 99% specificity test can do no better than a coin flip when declaring a positive result. Data that is no better than a coin flip is not data. It is random chance.
It gets worse, because neither PCR nor antigen tests are close to a 99% specificity level in practice (Braunstein et al. 2021).
The False positive rate is test dependent, and is independent of actual prevalence. Maybe your confusing it with false detection rate (the % of positive results that are actually negative), which is.
Considering that real world results were often below 0.5%, it would indicate that the false positive rate is <<0.5%.
If the positive rate is <<1%, widespread testing is inaccurate and a waste of time.
You make a lot of assumptions and now you are telling me what I believe. If you read his points, carefully, you will note point 1 regarding cross reaction. This is well understood and is the reason why people with flu/common cold (amongst other things) may result in a positive indication. Point 2, highlights an assumption. I consider points 1 and 2 are excellent. Again, I repeat Covid is alleged. There is no proof and you have conveniently failed to respond to my other comments regarding what is required for proof. Finally, you make (yet again) another false statement regarding what I "believe" and with regard to "any study". I am not sure why you ask any questions when you are so sure of the answers, but in any case, I do hold a belief regarding the nature of your game.
I know, which is why it is a rhetorical question being asked to make people think! Which many people might mindlessly shrug off and pay lip service to the cause of looking for the truth.
I agree with you about the tests - that is my understanding too. A test on its own tells nothing reliable, but together with a diagnostic symptom picture, it points to covid.
And I have to say for the record, I have been shocked at the amount of gaslighting from people commenting, people who should be on the side of open discussion and info sharing. Because telling someone "it is just a cold" (with no specific diagnostic exam) is as much gaslighting as any doctor saying "that vax injury is just anxiety" or the government health spokesperson standing up and saying "we have to lockdown or millions of people will die".
We, the resistance, need to be careful we don't fall into the same propaganda tactics as the controllers, and respect and listen to each other.
Absolutely. The same is true for the "there are no viruses and viruses don't exist" or "the virus has never been isolated" comments. I usually ignore those but it's interesting how many people seem to think that way. As Dr. Richard Fleming put it (paraphrasing) :The comfort level seems to be that nothing ever happened and we can all relax. But unfortunately that has nothing do do with reality.
(For the record, yes, the virus has been isolated, unless you imply that all the labs are lying and it's all a lie but you can claim that about virtually everything).
Yes, perhaps we should start a business selling leaches to suck out the "bad humors" residing in the body. Affer all, it was the go-to treatment for centuries.
1000%%%%%%%% agree with you, Mara. Have been depressed as hell to see the number of people on here telling Igor to ignore the test & not treat, no big deal, when that’s just as bad as implying that all vaccine injury is psychosomatic.
I see many people questioning the validity of the tests and those questions are very well founded. I don't see people telling him not to treat, but in any case, only a psychopath would deny certain facts, such as a patients apparent illness and then advise against an appropriate treatment. We know that the so-called vaccine is not an appropriate treatment. People die from lack of treatment. People are entitled to (and should) seek appropriate treatment, which is difficult to find under circumstances where human health has clearly been hijacked by industry and corporate interests.
Are we better off testing? Why? If I catch the flu, am I better off requesting a test that will identify the exact virus mutation going around? In other words, in what what does it make a patient's life better to spend money and effort on a viral test? To me, all it seems to do is feed the Big Pharma hydra, and push the fear narrative.
Ivermectin by itself is not the wonder drug. Especially for any moderate to severe symptoms. It's the cocktail including IV that is the most successful. And now, since the strain is so minor, the Zinc, D and C with either melatonin, selinium or quercitin is quite sufficient.
Take 1 aspirin every day for a month - rec'd from an MD friend. It will help to prevent any lingering issue of micro-clots caused by the spike protein.
IMPO (In My Prayerful Opinion) taking Nattokinase (natural Japanese blood thinner from soybeans prevents and heals blood clots.) capsules is a more healthy option. Aspirin, Tyanol, and the like are not good for the liver.
THAT is good advice, and something I should have done in my bout with Delta, in 2021. We all know about the long incubation period, so we should just pop 12 mg of IVM as soon as we detect that scratchy throat -- instead of wondering for the next three days if it's the real thing. No harm done, and much benefit to be gained...
Great advice! I wish it were that easy for me. I actually bought Ivermectin for veterinary use on Amazon back before it became so controversial, but now, living in Spain, it's impossible for me to get it. Hope the crazy laws will change before I actually need it!
I had three colds last late winter/spring, about 6 weeks apart. Lost smell. Other than that, no diff from a cold. Was it covid? Why should I care? Why test? It walked like a duck, it quacked like a duck.
And regarding anosmia: how do you know we did not lose smell in the past with a very runny nose? We just never talked about it; it was not a thing.
The fake covid propagandists latched on to every symptom of severe cold and flu like an Alabama tick, to convince everybody that a so-called virus exists, for which there is no supporting evidence (outside of research and publications funded by Gates/Pfizer et. al.).
Losing your sense of smell is a very weird thing, and not something you would just dismiss. Ok, I know that people are now talking about it being a symptom of other respiratory diseases, but I never personally experienced it before I got covid, and I don't know of anyone else who did, either.
I know... I just keep thinking we notice it now because everybody is talking about it. In other words, would you have known it before, unless someone pointed it out? Or would it have gone unnoticed because "these things happen" and it's just life. Sometimes smell is more acute and sometimes less.
Erin, when I got covid last year, I lost my sense of smell for a few weeks, and it was very weird. I am sensitive to odours - and it was all gone. (Some of that was a relief!) My coffee tasted strange - just the bitterness and sweetness of sugar on the tongue, none of the olfactory nuances. Same with everything I ate. And it persisted well into recovery from other symptoms, to the point where I checked out what to do about it, and started doing the olfactory retraining with 4 different essential oils that I heard about on YT. (I was already taking high dose zinc, which probably helped with recovery too.)
The olfactory retraining helped me monitor my olfactory recovery too - I was overjoyed when I could smell the orange again!
I've only once in my life had really bad flu, 40 years ago. And even with a mild cold, your appetite tends to diminish so you mightn't notice it while you still had those symptoms (for a few days, perhaps). But this lasted for several weeks, well into the recovery period.
Yup. Not disputing, have had a similar experience. I got really tired of not being able to taste spices in food. Then I hit on adding fresh ginger. It perked up my taste buds right away. :-)
Loss of taste and smell is common with severe cold or flu symptoms. Fresh ginger and other "old wives" treatments which have been known for centuries is how you hit on it. Covid is fake.
It's not the same. The extreme anosmia that can occur seems to be a different mechanism. I never experienced anything like it. I lost taste and smell 💯 for 3 weeks. It wasn't from being stuffy like a cold My nasal passages were clear.
Side note, influenza isn't even a coronavirus and doesn't carry a spike protein.
Old people usually can't smell things. I have a 90+ year old friend with two cats and she can't smell a 3-alarm dump in the litter box. I'm 69 but on the other hand, inherited the sensitive olfactory powers of my mother and I'm not sure which is the bigger nuisance because sometimes life doesn't smell very good. Like those lousy cats.
It's usually because with a cold there is a stuffy nose hence the loss of smell. With Covid it can take months or longer for smell to come back. There's the difference.
The mechanism is the same. The immune response in your nose can block the olfactory nerves upstream. In severe cases it can damage those nerves and they take time to regenerate. Covid is a coronavirus like the common cold.
Well, maybe. But since they have never studied it to show this to be true, and never will, I am left wondering. It is easy to misremember one's own colds before the covid boondoggle.
MY GF has a very poor immune system due to being put on anti-biotic for about 7 years when she was a child. She was going to get jabbed but got covid (delta) first. She was terribly ill but remained at home on a oxygen machine where i could treat her with the early treatments (including ivermectin). She cracked a rib coughing. While recovering she was feeling her rib when she noticed a breast lump that turned out to be 3 week old rapid breast cancer. Her specialist told her she needed a vax to get admitted for surgery and suggested the Johnsson as it was a once off. While in hospital she again got covid but fortunately the newer milder version and was hardly sick at all.
Bet she wishes she went through a trans phase as a teen. That's one cancer that trans men who got the full boob removal will never have to worry about.
You know COVID itself, like the vaccine, debilitates the immune system and can cause rapid cancers too by the way?
I'm not sure full breast removal prevents breast cancer. I had a friend who got a double mastectomy for one type of breast cancer. Later on got another type in the other breast area where she'd had all the breast tissue removed. But I haven't seen the statistics on what happens to young women who get their breasts removed due to BRCA gene. And my friend had gotten chemo and radiation treatments which can cause more cancer.
I think you have to remove it before it develops a malignancy and spreads who knows where. I would have cauterized the whole area but even then some cells could make it all the way to elsewhere such as the liver.
Radiation at the right dose is thought to actually prevent cancer, it's called radiation hormesis. But almost no studies have been done on it, except maybe in Ukraine and Russia. I'm only convinced of it because Danny Elfman is freakishly healthy for being 70 years old (I saw his concert last Thursday from the second row!) and he gets a full-body CAT scan every year plus whenever he goes to the dentist he CAT scans his skull just so he can make cool artwork out of it to post for Halloween, on top of having experimented with cobalt-60 and strontium-90 as a kid in the 60s before they made it illegal to mail-order vials of radioactive waste; and he hasn't had cancer yet (he also does intermittent fasting and cuts a load of shit out of his diet mind you) while his friend Paul Reubens (Pee-Wee Herman), who was also 70, just died of cancer after 6 years of keeping it a secret. But if anybody would know some cool secret about radiation hormesis I suppose it would be the guy who spent his childhood trying to create mutant fruit flies by injecting them with nuclear waste...
Oh definitely, but I think in my case it was combined with other factors. I too found a lump in January. Triple Negative, Stage 1. Had Covid the prior June (2022). Kept catching things for a month after that. Other likely contributing factors: stressful breakup and coparenting with a narc, and mastitis in the same spot on the same boob in 2021, being in postpartum is a little-known risk factor for TNBC.
I think other viral infections can also cause loss of smell. 🤷♀️
Either way, treatment is same and you are feeling better.
No reason someone couldn't get different strain of the thing... if your last infection was 2.5 years ago, it was a very different virus variety. I think some folks, like Dr. McCullough, were saying that omicron is enough not like wuhan and delta that it should have gotten its own designation, like covid-21 or something. And of course I don't know how far away from the original omicron we've gotten. I think they stopped giving new Greek letters so as to keep blind regarding the rate of ongoing mutations. At least that's my personal belief.
A cold causes a loss of a sense of smell by stuffing up your nose. COVID makes your sense of smell disappear even when it's not stuffed up.
COVID also has its own peculiar flavor. I tasted it again five months later and a month later after that. I have a very good immune system too. Almost no symptoms second and third time though.
And given how many people are injected with a drug that specifically fosters immune tolerance to COVID specifically, it's definitely COVID.
I tested +ve twice. Did I have Covid twice well that’s a different matter.
First time my vaccinated husband tested +ve whilst we were a short flight but an 11hrs drive away from home. He had a scratch in his throat & being a being a good unvaccinated citizen, I decided he & I should do a test as I didn’t want him to share his covid love around on a plane. I’m pretty sure the plane of fully vaccinated would have lynched me & blamed me for him getting it, after all this was Australia in peak covid hysteria.
Low & behold he had Covid, I in the other hand didn’t.
So doing the right thing, I changed my hire car lease to be able to drive 11 hrs home. 11hrs in the car with my covid +ve husband breathing & spluttering all over me.
He duly informed our gvt of his positive test & instantaneously I was under 2 week house arrest. So I isolated with him. He was ill, I was perfectly healthy. On Day 11 to leave quarantine I needed to pcr test & yep apparently I was +ve. I had done RATs hoping for +ve just to get a temp exemption. In Aus unvaccinated we’re banned from everything including earning a living until July 2022.
Anyway no symptoms showed, the Telehealth hospital I was “admitted” to due to being unvaccinated were perplexed & 3 days later I was negative again. Did I have Covid. Absolutely not.
6 months later after partying the night away in my post apartheid segregation freedom I did catch covid. Fever, runny nose, lasted 3 days & I was better much thanks to Grouf & others protocols.
So I tested +ve twice on gvt pcr tests but did I have covid twice, I don’t think so.
If my sense of taste is anything to go by I got COVID again after visiting the highly vaccinated UCSD for a meeting to get enrolled again, 5 months after the first time - only symptoms were dysphagia, sleeping for 12 hours a night and COVID flavor in mouth - and again a month later, with only the flavor and the black slug diarrhea from the first time as symptoms. I haven't gotten the COVID flavor again over the three and a half months since I've started classes. Most of the time though I've been staying home to do assignments because I don't get much out of lectures but I had to go to school to attend meetings with my case manager a lot as well as to take tests, sometimes even sleep-deprived, so I decided to schedule my finals for the week after finals week so I would have some time to rest. And right now during this summer session my two classes are 100% remote although I might have an in-person class next quarter if I get off the waitlist (I'm number two on the waitlist).
Oh and I've also been wearing the KN95 masks that my case manager at the school gives out for free. Just saying. I don't think it's safe to breathe the same air as mRNA-injected people unfiltered. I wasn't wearing a mask during the second time I got COVID (my face was freezing too as it was December) and I was only wearing a crappy blue surgical mask the third time I got COVID.
There are lots of etiologies to the loss of sense of smell. You cannot say, "because it did this, I know it's that." The olfactory nerve is a cranial nerve. Nerves get "toned" or "detoned" based on use/disuse. For more background on the amazing human nervous system, read Galen Hart's The Vagus Nerve: Your Body's Superpower. Vagus and Olfactory are just two of the twelve cranial nerves. And yes, it can re-grow if you need it to. But you need to supply the raw materials via diet. Lack of sufficient information can lead to premature conclusions. Also, in addition to that regime, did you try quercetin, curcumin (found as 2% in ground turmeric root) and changing to a diet of greater saturated fats? In addition, bear in mind that the inventor of the so-called Covid test said it is not specific and should not be used as a conclusive test; it just shows the presence of cellular debris.
I have had it twice, am unvaxed and the second time was much milder. I took the Zinc, D3, C, Reveratrol, Garlic, Tumeric, Black seed Oil and Quecertin. Still on all those in smaller doses.
I understand after what I heared from a phisycian that treatment should NOT include vitamins, vitamins should be taken before illness, not during it. I do not know if this is true, but this doctor wrote a book about covid so could be an accurate assesment.
A friend of a colleague is very ill at the moment with his lungs filling up. He apparently looks like hell and has been told by his GP to call the emergency number when unable to ‘go to the toilet’ 🤪. He is vaccinated. My colleague, is not and convinced him to start a similar treatment as yours Igor. Fingers crossed. Ik will report back.
I have the privilege of being totally isolated. I prefer to be isolated because I consider my health and feeling good to be more valuable than anything else
Somehow, I came down with covid symptoms in the middle of June as well. I wonder if it's related to yours.
I still have a long COVID, but I think that most people don't notice their long COVID symptoms. I am very attuned to my health and I can definitely feel my energy being slightly lower for several months after a covid infection. It's not the totally-incapacitating long COVID of 2020, but it is still suboptimal.
The Chinese sticks seem to be a delivery system of some kind. Do not stick anything from Big Pharma into your system! ...and go Amish with your food if you can!
Igor, I forgot to ask if you had tried or considered chlorine dioxide AKA MMS. People are swearing by it for covid and everything else. I've been meaning to learn how to make me some up.
Hope you are doing better Igor. Did you add Vitamins B and C, Quercitin or NAAC to your healing protocols? A short-term use of elderberry may help as well. I also take Echinacea as a short-term wellness aid. Don't forget those omega three's. and the NAC (amino acid). Well wishes.
Big thanks for your well wishes!!!
Many people expressed skepticism about "Covid tests". You are right to be skeptical, but...
There are two types of tests, PCR tests (done in a lab) and rapid antigen tests. PCR tests at high cycles are much more prone to false positives. The rapid tests are less prone to false positives. I used a rapid test. (I had other colds in the past 2 years, two IIRC, and the same tests were negative)
Also the health authorities are no longer interested in inflating covid numbers. Quite the opposite, actually.
Oh and I lost smell - so it is Covid.
I have Covid again, too. Unvaxxed. It's been 4 days and I only have sinus stuffiness, now. I forgot the Melatonin! Glad I looked closely at your pic. I knew I was forgetting something.
It was milder than the first time in every way, except the stuffy nose. I had no sinus issues at all, the first time. I lost my sense of smell again today, too. Last time, SInuOrego nasal spray brought it right back...hope it does the same, this time.
You really should be taking vitamin A with vitamin D. The two vitamins are synergistic and cancel out each other's toxic effects. Or at least that's what the Weston Price website says. I was taking both when I first got COVID. I was taking 3 vitamin A a day for a while until it gave me an itchy scalp so I dropped it to 1-2. Also best to take it with vitamin K2. A lot of studies show no effect from vitamin A or D but that's because they don't use them together.
Hope your smell came back... I used Sinu-Orego nasal spray twice (1X daily) and mine came back. I did it once more just to be sure. It's anecdotal, but it worked for me...
Covid? OMG!!! Quick Igor, double mask and hurray to the hospital! Make sure you get the shot and the three boosters right away. Don't forget the Paxlovid for good measure. You might still be saved. You're lucky you're not already dead. For God's sake, don't you know that Covid is a pandemic of the unvaxxed? And please, PLEASE, isolate yourself, especially from the fully vaxxed - you might kill someone's Grandma!
I had a closer look at those tests. Here's what I found:
In a lab setting, they seem to be quite specific, with 2 exceptions:
1. They cross react with SARS-CoV-1 because the N protein is nearly 88% similar which opens a whole new can of worms: How many other SARS-like viruses are out there the tests can cross react with? Supposedly none because SARS-CoV-2 is the only SARS-like virus that is currently circulating, right? But we don't know that, do we?
2. Some of the tests haven't been evaluated for cross reactivity with HKU1 which also happens to be a betacoronavirus due to the lack of samples. They just assume there would be no cross reactivity because the N protein is only like 40% similar.
In a real world setting, I found this: "False-positive results in SARS-CoV-2 antigen test with rhinovirus-A infection" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33963633/
What do you think the rate of false positives is?
I don't have a clue really. First, the tests react to acidic pH, so if you don't precisely follow the instructions, you could trigger a positive result in the absence if any pathogen. Next, even if done correctly, just because the manufacturer has found no cross reactivity in a lab doesn't mean there is none in a real world setting. What you would need is a large number of positive samples from real people (a few hundred maybe), then do PCR confirmation and then you could calculate a false positive rate. I don't know if such a study has been done.
The false positive rate for antigen tests seem to be very low (<1%)
Wrong.
Common sense would suggest that a test with 99% specificity would return only about 1 in a 100 false positive results. But this is not how it works. The false positive rate is far higher when disease prevalence is as low as the studies have found. The PPV of screening testing is very low when background prevalence is low (Bokhorst et al. 2012; Skittrall et al. 2020; Dinnes et al. 2021).
If 1,000 people randomly in a population where 1% have the illness at issue, and the test is 99% specific, we will have one true positive and one false positive for each 100 tests. So testing 1,000 people results in 10 true positives and 10 false positives.
Using BMJ's very own test accuracy calculator to calculate (based on available real-world background prevalence data and test accuracy data) and with a conservative assumption of 1% pre-test probability of active infection (a higher level of active infection than was found in the large vaccine clinical trials) and also assuming 58% sensitivity and 99% specificity, which are the findings of Cochrane meta-analysis combining studies of antigen test accuracy, when used to test asymptomatic cases (Dinnes, J. et al. 2021), the result in this scenario is 50% false positives (1 true positive and 1 false positive) even with a 99% specificity test.
50% is the same as random chance. In other words, this 99% specificity test can do no better than a coin flip when declaring a positive result. Data that is no better than a coin flip is not data. It is random chance.
It gets worse, because neither PCR nor antigen tests are close to a 99% specificity level in practice (Braunstein et al. 2021).
Stop spreading lies David.
The False positive rate is test dependent, and is independent of actual prevalence. Maybe your confusing it with false detection rate (the % of positive results that are actually negative), which is.
Considering that real world results were often below 0.5%, it would indicate that the false positive rate is <<0.5%.
If the positive rate is <<1%, widespread testing is inaccurate and a waste of time.
Points 1 and 2 are excellent. Covid is alleged. There is no sound proof that it exists. People should think on.
How can you say that Thorstein's point are excellent, while also saying that he is totally wrong?
You need to read.
Then you can explain why you agree with points 1 & 2, while also believing that any study using the SARS COV 2 virus is bogus
You make a lot of assumptions and now you are telling me what I believe. If you read his points, carefully, you will note point 1 regarding cross reaction. This is well understood and is the reason why people with flu/common cold (amongst other things) may result in a positive indication. Point 2, highlights an assumption. I consider points 1 and 2 are excellent. Again, I repeat Covid is alleged. There is no proof and you have conveniently failed to respond to my other comments regarding what is required for proof. Finally, you make (yet again) another false statement regarding what I "believe" and with regard to "any study". I am not sure why you ask any questions when you are so sure of the answers, but in any case, I do hold a belief regarding the nature of your game.
Is the expression "I am" any proof that it is Tolstoy's book "War and Peace"? - which ANY TEST claims to be the case!
Doesn't matter if it is actual proof. It still makes it a best seller, in this day and age. - Pfizer, Gates Foundation et. al.
I know, which is why it is a rhetorical question being asked to make people think! Which many people might mindlessly shrug off and pay lip service to the cause of looking for the truth.
Agreed.
I agree with you about the tests - that is my understanding too. A test on its own tells nothing reliable, but together with a diagnostic symptom picture, it points to covid.
And I have to say for the record, I have been shocked at the amount of gaslighting from people commenting, people who should be on the side of open discussion and info sharing. Because telling someone "it is just a cold" (with no specific diagnostic exam) is as much gaslighting as any doctor saying "that vax injury is just anxiety" or the government health spokesperson standing up and saying "we have to lockdown or millions of people will die".
We, the resistance, need to be careful we don't fall into the same propaganda tactics as the controllers, and respect and listen to each other.
I would just wear masks around mRNA-injected people. Those fucking Typhoid Marys.
It definitely doesn't taste like a cold either, it has its own flavor.
Absolutely. The same is true for the "there are no viruses and viruses don't exist" or "the virus has never been isolated" comments. I usually ignore those but it's interesting how many people seem to think that way. As Dr. Richard Fleming put it (paraphrasing) :The comfort level seems to be that nothing ever happened and we can all relax. But unfortunately that has nothing do do with reality.
(For the record, yes, the virus has been isolated, unless you imply that all the labs are lying and it's all a lie but you can claim that about virtually everything).
please show the source for isolation.
Dig Dr.Tom Cowan, Stefan Lanka...the way they isolate it is even in order to find something.
Yes, perhaps we should start a business selling leaches to suck out the "bad humors" residing in the body. Affer all, it was the go-to treatment for centuries.
1000%%%%%%%% agree with you, Mara. Have been depressed as hell to see the number of people on here telling Igor to ignore the test & not treat, no big deal, when that’s just as bad as implying that all vaccine injury is psychosomatic.
I see many people questioning the validity of the tests and those questions are very well founded. I don't see people telling him not to treat, but in any case, only a psychopath would deny certain facts, such as a patients apparent illness and then advise against an appropriate treatment. We know that the so-called vaccine is not an appropriate treatment. People die from lack of treatment. People are entitled to (and should) seek appropriate treatment, which is difficult to find under circumstances where human health has clearly been hijacked by industry and corporate interests.
Igor, here is my challenge. :-)
Are we better off testing? Why? If I catch the flu, am I better off requesting a test that will identify the exact virus mutation going around? In other words, in what what does it make a patient's life better to spend money and effort on a viral test? To me, all it seems to do is feed the Big Pharma hydra, and push the fear narrative.
This time Covid amounted to a nothingburger (unless something "delayed" happens). I did use Ivermectin.
My first Covid in Nov 2020 was much worse, and I wish I was aware of and used Ivermectin back then
Ivermectin by itself is not the wonder drug. Especially for any moderate to severe symptoms. It's the cocktail including IV that is the most successful. And now, since the strain is so minor, the Zinc, D and C with either melatonin, selinium or quercitin is quite sufficient.
Take 1 aspirin every day for a month - rec'd from an MD friend. It will help to prevent any lingering issue of micro-clots caused by the spike protein.
Be well my friend.
IMPO (In My Prayerful Opinion) taking Nattokinase (natural Japanese blood thinner from soybeans prevents and heals blood clots.) capsules is a more healthy option. Aspirin, Tyanol, and the like are not good for the liver.
And what do you think about the testing issue, Igor?
You could start ivermectin earlier and you will not loose smell. You can take it even if you are not sure that you will get sick.
did not work for me
That might be so for some - but I took early ivermectin at the first sign of symptoms, and I still lost my sense of smell (temporarily).
Interesting. Thanks for the info about your experience.
THAT is good advice, and something I should have done in my bout with Delta, in 2021. We all know about the long incubation period, so we should just pop 12 mg of IVM as soon as we detect that scratchy throat -- instead of wondering for the next three days if it's the real thing. No harm done, and much benefit to be gained...
Great advice! I wish it were that easy for me. I actually bought Ivermectin for veterinary use on Amazon back before it became so controversial, but now, living in Spain, it's impossible for me to get it. Hope the crazy laws will change before I actually need it!
I had three colds last late winter/spring, about 6 weeks apart. Lost smell. Other than that, no diff from a cold. Was it covid? Why should I care? Why test? It walked like a duck, it quacked like a duck.
And regarding anosmia: how do you know we did not lose smell in the past with a very runny nose? We just never talked about it; it was not a thing.
I've had colds all my life - twice a year for 56 years. I lost my sense of smell every single time. It is not a novel symptom for covid.
The fake covid propagandists latched on to every symptom of severe cold and flu like an Alabama tick, to convince everybody that a so-called virus exists, for which there is no supporting evidence (outside of research and publications funded by Gates/Pfizer et. al.).
That seems to be what the lit is saying, as well.
Clinically, I have not seen any symptoms that have not been known previously from the cold/flu spectrum of illnesses.
Losing your sense of smell is a very weird thing, and not something you would just dismiss. Ok, I know that people are now talking about it being a symptom of other respiratory diseases, but I never personally experienced it before I got covid, and I don't know of anyone else who did, either.
I’ve had many many bad colds & sinus things in life, and have never ever ever lost sense of smell.
I know... I just keep thinking we notice it now because everybody is talking about it. In other words, would you have known it before, unless someone pointed it out? Or would it have gone unnoticed because "these things happen" and it's just life. Sometimes smell is more acute and sometimes less.
Erin, when I got covid last year, I lost my sense of smell for a few weeks, and it was very weird. I am sensitive to odours - and it was all gone. (Some of that was a relief!) My coffee tasted strange - just the bitterness and sweetness of sugar on the tongue, none of the olfactory nuances. Same with everything I ate. And it persisted well into recovery from other symptoms, to the point where I checked out what to do about it, and started doing the olfactory retraining with 4 different essential oils that I heard about on YT. (I was already taking high dose zinc, which probably helped with recovery too.)
The olfactory retraining helped me monitor my olfactory recovery too - I was overjoyed when I could smell the orange again!
I've only once in my life had really bad flu, 40 years ago. And even with a mild cold, your appetite tends to diminish so you mightn't notice it while you still had those symptoms (for a few days, perhaps). But this lasted for several weeks, well into the recovery period.
Yup. Not disputing, have had a similar experience. I got really tired of not being able to taste spices in food. Then I hit on adding fresh ginger. It perked up my taste buds right away. :-)
Loss of taste and smell is common with severe cold or flu symptoms. Fresh ginger and other "old wives" treatments which have been known for centuries is how you hit on it. Covid is fake.
It used to be common knowledge you could lose your sense of smell with a cold.
It's not the same. The extreme anosmia that can occur seems to be a different mechanism. I never experienced anything like it. I lost taste and smell 💯 for 3 weeks. It wasn't from being stuffy like a cold My nasal passages were clear.
Side note, influenza isn't even a coronavirus and doesn't carry a spike protein.
I’m 67 and haven’t been able to smell well for ten years or more. Was it Covid?
Losing your sense of smell is an early sign of dementia.
Old people usually can't smell things. I have a 90+ year old friend with two cats and she can't smell a 3-alarm dump in the litter box. I'm 69 but on the other hand, inherited the sensitive olfactory powers of my mother and I'm not sure which is the bigger nuisance because sometimes life doesn't smell very good. Like those lousy cats.
Covid smells funny.
It smells like patchoulli and Starbucks.
Not that lasted for months.
It's usually because with a cold there is a stuffy nose hence the loss of smell. With Covid it can take months or longer for smell to come back. There's the difference.
The mechanism is the same. The immune response in your nose can block the olfactory nerves upstream. In severe cases it can damage those nerves and they take time to regenerate. Covid is a coronavirus like the common cold.
Well, maybe. But since they have never studied it to show this to be true, and never will, I am left wondering. It is easy to misremember one's own colds before the covid boondoggle.
The nocebo effect.
MY GF has a very poor immune system due to being put on anti-biotic for about 7 years when she was a child. She was going to get jabbed but got covid (delta) first. She was terribly ill but remained at home on a oxygen machine where i could treat her with the early treatments (including ivermectin). She cracked a rib coughing. While recovering she was feeling her rib when she noticed a breast lump that turned out to be 3 week old rapid breast cancer. Her specialist told her she needed a vax to get admitted for surgery and suggested the Johnsson as it was a once off. While in hospital she again got covid but fortunately the newer milder version and was hardly sick at all.
Bet she wishes she went through a trans phase as a teen. That's one cancer that trans men who got the full boob removal will never have to worry about.
You know COVID itself, like the vaccine, debilitates the immune system and can cause rapid cancers too by the way?
I'm not sure full breast removal prevents breast cancer. I had a friend who got a double mastectomy for one type of breast cancer. Later on got another type in the other breast area where she'd had all the breast tissue removed. But I haven't seen the statistics on what happens to young women who get their breasts removed due to BRCA gene. And my friend had gotten chemo and radiation treatments which can cause more cancer.
I think you have to remove it before it develops a malignancy and spreads who knows where. I would have cauterized the whole area but even then some cells could make it all the way to elsewhere such as the liver.
Radiation at the right dose is thought to actually prevent cancer, it's called radiation hormesis. But almost no studies have been done on it, except maybe in Ukraine and Russia. I'm only convinced of it because Danny Elfman is freakishly healthy for being 70 years old (I saw his concert last Thursday from the second row!) and he gets a full-body CAT scan every year plus whenever he goes to the dentist he CAT scans his skull just so he can make cool artwork out of it to post for Halloween, on top of having experimented with cobalt-60 and strontium-90 as a kid in the 60s before they made it illegal to mail-order vials of radioactive waste; and he hasn't had cancer yet (he also does intermittent fasting and cuts a load of shit out of his diet mind you) while his friend Paul Reubens (Pee-Wee Herman), who was also 70, just died of cancer after 6 years of keeping it a secret. But if anybody would know some cool secret about radiation hormesis I suppose it would be the guy who spent his childhood trying to create mutant fruit flies by injecting them with nuclear waste...
Oh definitely, but I think in my case it was combined with other factors. I too found a lump in January. Triple Negative, Stage 1. Had Covid the prior June (2022). Kept catching things for a month after that. Other likely contributing factors: stressful breakup and coparenting with a narc, and mastitis in the same spot on the same boob in 2021, being in postpartum is a little-known risk factor for TNBC.
I think you have finally lost the plot Igor. All the best on getting your head sorted mate.
I think other viral infections can also cause loss of smell. 🤷♀️
Either way, treatment is same and you are feeling better.
No reason someone couldn't get different strain of the thing... if your last infection was 2.5 years ago, it was a very different virus variety. I think some folks, like Dr. McCullough, were saying that omicron is enough not like wuhan and delta that it should have gotten its own designation, like covid-21 or something. And of course I don't know how far away from the original omicron we've gotten. I think they stopped giving new Greek letters so as to keep blind regarding the rate of ongoing mutations. At least that's my personal belief.
A cold causes a loss of a sense of smell by stuffing up your nose. COVID makes your sense of smell disappear even when it's not stuffed up.
COVID also has its own peculiar flavor. I tasted it again five months later and a month later after that. I have a very good immune system too. Almost no symptoms second and third time though.
And given how many people are injected with a drug that specifically fosters immune tolerance to COVID specifically, it's definitely COVID.
Venomous peptides are also notorious for causing loss of taste and smell.
Save seeds.
you can not get something that has never been isolated!!!
I tested +ve twice. Did I have Covid twice well that’s a different matter.
First time my vaccinated husband tested +ve whilst we were a short flight but an 11hrs drive away from home. He had a scratch in his throat & being a being a good unvaccinated citizen, I decided he & I should do a test as I didn’t want him to share his covid love around on a plane. I’m pretty sure the plane of fully vaccinated would have lynched me & blamed me for him getting it, after all this was Australia in peak covid hysteria.
Low & behold he had Covid, I in the other hand didn’t.
So doing the right thing, I changed my hire car lease to be able to drive 11 hrs home. 11hrs in the car with my covid +ve husband breathing & spluttering all over me.
He duly informed our gvt of his positive test & instantaneously I was under 2 week house arrest. So I isolated with him. He was ill, I was perfectly healthy. On Day 11 to leave quarantine I needed to pcr test & yep apparently I was +ve. I had done RATs hoping for +ve just to get a temp exemption. In Aus unvaccinated we’re banned from everything including earning a living until July 2022.
Anyway no symptoms showed, the Telehealth hospital I was “admitted” to due to being unvaccinated were perplexed & 3 days later I was negative again. Did I have Covid. Absolutely not.
6 months later after partying the night away in my post apartheid segregation freedom I did catch covid. Fever, runny nose, lasted 3 days & I was better much thanks to Grouf & others protocols.
So I tested +ve twice on gvt pcr tests but did I have covid twice, I don’t think so.
Clearly they are seeding their infectious clones in airports.
If my sense of taste is anything to go by I got COVID again after visiting the highly vaccinated UCSD for a meeting to get enrolled again, 5 months after the first time - only symptoms were dysphagia, sleeping for 12 hours a night and COVID flavor in mouth - and again a month later, with only the flavor and the black slug diarrhea from the first time as symptoms. I haven't gotten the COVID flavor again over the three and a half months since I've started classes. Most of the time though I've been staying home to do assignments because I don't get much out of lectures but I had to go to school to attend meetings with my case manager a lot as well as to take tests, sometimes even sleep-deprived, so I decided to schedule my finals for the week after finals week so I would have some time to rest. And right now during this summer session my two classes are 100% remote although I might have an in-person class next quarter if I get off the waitlist (I'm number two on the waitlist).
Oh and I've also been wearing the KN95 masks that my case manager at the school gives out for free. Just saying. I don't think it's safe to breathe the same air as mRNA-injected people unfiltered. I wasn't wearing a mask during the second time I got COVID (my face was freezing too as it was December) and I was only wearing a crappy blue surgical mask the third time I got COVID.
There are lots of etiologies to the loss of sense of smell. You cannot say, "because it did this, I know it's that." The olfactory nerve is a cranial nerve. Nerves get "toned" or "detoned" based on use/disuse. For more background on the amazing human nervous system, read Galen Hart's The Vagus Nerve: Your Body's Superpower. Vagus and Olfactory are just two of the twelve cranial nerves. And yes, it can re-grow if you need it to. But you need to supply the raw materials via diet. Lack of sufficient information can lead to premature conclusions. Also, in addition to that regime, did you try quercetin, curcumin (found as 2% in ground turmeric root) and changing to a diet of greater saturated fats? In addition, bear in mind that the inventor of the so-called Covid test said it is not specific and should not be used as a conclusive test; it just shows the presence of cellular debris.
I have had it twice, am unvaxed and the second time was much milder. I took the Zinc, D3, C, Reveratrol, Garlic, Tumeric, Black seed Oil and Quecertin. Still on all those in smaller doses.
I understand after what I heared from a phisycian that treatment should NOT include vitamins, vitamins should be taken before illness, not during it. I do not know if this is true, but this doctor wrote a book about covid so could be an accurate assesment.
A friend of a colleague is very ill at the moment with his lungs filling up. He apparently looks like hell and has been told by his GP to call the emergency number when unable to ‘go to the toilet’ 🤪. He is vaccinated. My colleague, is not and convinced him to start a similar treatment as yours Igor. Fingers crossed. Ik will report back.
Thank you for sharing and I hope that everybody recovers
So sorry you got spiked! Probably should start on a spike detox program to get it out of your body.
I have the privilege of being totally isolated. I prefer to be isolated because I consider my health and feeling good to be more valuable than anything else
Somehow, I came down with covid symptoms in the middle of June as well. I wonder if it's related to yours.
I still have a long COVID, but I think that most people don't notice their long COVID symptoms. I am very attuned to my health and I can definitely feel my energy being slightly lower for several months after a covid infection. It's not the totally-incapacitating long COVID of 2020, but it is still suboptimal.
Where did you get the Ivermect!N?
The Chinese sticks seem to be a delivery system of some kind. Do not stick anything from Big Pharma into your system! ...and go Amish with your food if you can!
Hope that you continue to do all of the right things that you are and get back to 100% in the near future.
Also, thank you for sharing, especially to us fellow unvaxed.
Igor, I forgot to ask if you had tried or considered chlorine dioxide AKA MMS. People are swearing by it for covid and everything else. I've been meaning to learn how to make me some up.
Hope you are doing better Igor. Did you add Vitamins B and C, Quercitin or NAAC to your healing protocols? A short-term use of elderberry may help as well. I also take Echinacea as a short-term wellness aid. Don't forget those omega three's. and the NAC (amino acid). Well wishes.