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Gaby's avatar

It took me a while to tell this to a friend. She was out of cancer and she had covid later, then she got vaccinated and the cancer came back. I found the way to let her know and clear my conscience. Now is up to her if she get more booster or not. I think she believed me and was somehow an eye opener for her, but it’s the only thing I can do.

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Eli's avatar

It's a terrible situation because we can cause people to become depressed and/or more sick with the bad news (if they believe us).

Nonetheless, I think you did the right thing, the next shot is likely to cause more damage.

The leaked video from the Israeli Health Ministry independent inquiry found that side-effects were repeating with each shot ("rechallenge").

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Charlotte's avatar

I think a lot about what Eugyppius had said, that it was the first time that such a large group of highly intelligent people lined up to get an experimental shot. They convinced each other they were doing the right thing for a variety of reasons- maybe to protect themselves from getting cancer again was one of them- for many also their doctors told them to! Of course, others are annoying and only did it to “save humanity” and virtue signal, and then there are those who were mandated and did it to keep a roof over their heads and their children fed. I think the underlying reason why they took the jab is part of the key to seeing your chance of talking sense into them or not.

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Eli's avatar

Agree - there was a wide range of pressures applied to each community segment and for sure any deprogramming has to take into account the specific audience.

I'm part of the highly-religious Jewish crowd mostly without internet (I'm an outlier). Except for the elderly, they weren't scared in the slightest from Covid (having no access to social media and not seeing many sick on the ground) and simply got the shots because the top Rabbis instructed them - and even with the full knowledge that this might be an evil plot with 100% faith that as long as they are following G-d's instructions the poison would be nullified.

The bright side was, as long as I didn't get myself excommunicated (almost), the second the first two shots were over everyone took off their masks and went back to normal, even against government decrees. We did what the rabbis asked, its over, none of this "5% can still be infected" nonsense.

9 months later they wanted to vax the kids so the government cracked down and the school principles tried to make the kids put the masks back on while the teachers didn't have to wear them and I told them NO WAY - you've been braking the law until now, if you order my kids to put on masks I'm reporting you - and that was it, no masks... :)

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Sometimes that's all it takes with the illegal (and unconstitutional) mandates...standing up and challenging them. Or, threatening to contact whoever insures the school bonds with reporting/suing them.

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Eli's avatar

In Israel we don't have a constitution - everything the government ordered was 100% the law. It looks like the whole world is headed to another "just following orders" scenario. We see that most of the medical field failed the first test and sent people to their deaths with the protocols.

The other side is busy manuvering local and international law to ensure that law enforcement and the army literally will need to rebel to stay ethical (and in the meantime the youth are about to be "educated").

Situation looks grim - but yeah - if we can actually form communal groups we have a chance to resist.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Yes, I believe very it will be as written many years ago...sides will have to be chosen. Those who will stand up for what is right and good against what is wrong and evil. And it's coming quite quickly now.

So sorry you don't have the added backing with constitution/law.

I will keep all in my prayers as this marches forward. 🙏

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