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Brendan McNeill's avatar

Have you considered that the shots weaken the recipients immune system, amongst other things, making them more vulnerable to all pathogens?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

definitely a possibility

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TSMe's avatar

Igor please consider another possibility.

If we accept the toxic spike protein remains in the body for some time*, we can reasonably hypothesise that as people receive each new dose of spike protein producing 'vaccine', whilst also being exposed to spike protein from repeated infection - given the 'vaccines' do nothing to reduce re-infection, other than increase it - then it seems quite plausible to conclude the damage done by the spike protein will likely accumulate over time.

* In fact, we do not need to see accumulating spike protein to encounter this problem. The problem can occur due to an accumulation of the damage resulting from each spike protein dose - even though the spike protein from previous jabs, or infections has faded. For example, accumulative damage to the myocardium, until we finally have sufficient damage to result in a serious adverse event.

Edit: Or, a combination of this, increased virulence, and weakened immune systems. In which case, we can expect this to get uglier exponentially.

Food for thought.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

It is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. All this is underexplored and important. It is also my opinion thta we can glean much of what we need to know, from various vaccine, covid and death statistics and death reports, if we make an effort.

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Amerikan Werewolf's avatar

Ding ding ding! ... I believe we have a winner, here, when comined with Brendan's hypothesis above.

The shots weaken the immune system through a number of factors. Therefore, exposure to SARS-CoV-2 is more likely to result in clinical illness in those who have received at least the initial series. Those who have not are better able to resist infection to begin with, so even if exposed to a virulent strain, those with a strong natural immune system are at much less risk of contracting the virus.

These shots ALSO work by inducing the body to produce spike protein without even being exposed to SARS-CoV-2.

Therefore, those who have taken the shots are MORE likely to become clinically infected with COVID (which, incidentally, often remains subclinical in these individuals due to immune system attenuation to the spike protein -- thus allowing the virus to remain in the body much, MUCH longer, and do much, MUCH more damage). Those who have taken the shots are ALSO incurring much, MUCH more spike damage than those who have contracted COVID through "natural" infection, because the shots work by promoting the production of spike in vivo.

Quite the effective shot! ... I don't know if I would describe it as "safe," though.

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GaryP's avatar

I have a doubt about the deaths not lining up with jabs as there is a 5 month delay for maximum number of deaths:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/this-one-graph-tells-you-everything

People quit associating deaths with the jabs after a couple months, but it looks like there is a 5 month lag. Some deaths occur within two weeks and 1 in 40 of those end up in a VAERS report.

Walter Chesnut claims the spikes, vaccine or repeat infections, age the organs:

https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/urgentbreaking-updated-summation

It is the jabbed suffering repeat infections. Death can occur from any organ failure and seem to be random. Proper autopsies would look for covid spikes in the organs especially months after the jabs. Young people have been turned into old frail people and will suffer from seasonal deaths.

Geert describes all of the jabbed to have the same immune response to new variants. If a mutation develops that targets that response, it will run wild in the jabbed population. With the switch to IgG4 antibodies months after the booster it looks glum for the jabbed. Of course it gets worse with Merck's molnupiravir drug causing many more mutations in the perfect hosts, humans.

Big Pharma turned millions of patients into little biolabs, testing millions of mutations.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

This is some next level sick game they are playing...with all of humanity at risk.

A lot more people need to wake up and see this if we are ever going to be able to stop it.

If not, all I can say is, everyone better get to know Jesus. 😔🙏

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

or Buddha, or whatever beliefs give you some comfort and inner peace and help you to clean up your own life so you can die with a clean conscience.

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Gica Hagi's avatar

Not all of humanity, just the 25-30% which are jabbed. The replacements will be fine for the future serf class :(

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Just a Clinician's avatar

Over on El Gato Malo's latest, the comment section was advocating for the hashtag #DelayedOnset

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

is El Gatp Malo only on twitter, which I don't use? where else might I find him?

thanks

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, myocarditis can apparently cause a scar to form in the heart even with no initial symptoms. Then many weeks, months, or years later, that scar can lead to ventricular tachycardia, ventricular fibrillation, and sudden cardiac death.

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Wesleyj's avatar

Scarring of heart muscle eventually causes aberrations in conductivity pathways.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

He describes hyperinflammation and calls it by more micro effects. Nrf2 promoters are needed to restore DNA damage repair and promote a healthier balance of microRNA which controls the mRNA which controls which genes are transcribed into proteins.

He and many people need to see the bigger picture - hyperinflammation causes rapid degeneration - aging.

The spike is certainly causing hyperinflammation in many ways but modern life is too and many phytonutrients can help - and more is better than just one.

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skintnick's avatar

John Dee confirmed this "5-month" effect from UK data in a long series of posts starting here https://jdee.substack.com/p/vaccines-and-death-part-1

It was the first thing I looked for in the graph annotated by "explainable"/"not explainable" and I'm not convinced the jabs are not largely responsible.

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Stephanie S's avatar

I think Walter Chesnut’s theory is correct. It explains a lot and why there is such diverse causes of all cause mortality.

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Jennifer Depew, R.D.'s avatar

He describes hyperinflammation and calls it by more micro effects. Nrf2 promoters are needed to restore DNA damage repair and promote a healthier balance of microRNA which controls the mRNA which controls which genes are transcribed into proteins.

He and many people need to see the bigger picture - hyperinflammation causes rapid degeneration - aging.

The spike is certainly causing hyperinflammation in many ways but modern life is too and many phytonutrients can help - and more is better than just one.

Addition - this post has lots of health guidance in the last section - how are the virus and vaccine versions different? https://denutrients.substack.com/p/bioweapons-a-bore-i-dont-think-so

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Ian's avatar

Let's just say the shots weaken the system, period. It's not just the immune system they affect.

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John Sbrochi's avatar

Great point! We are mostly focusing on immune response, but there is other damage from the spike.

Currently have multiple friends with unusual illnesses (aggressive cancer, clotting/ swelling that drugs can't resolve, and sudden leg paralysis (for lack of a better description as there is no diagnosis).

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I have 61-yo male friend, vaxxed and (I think) boosted, no history of serious prior health issues. He recently became dizzy, fell in his house. Fortunately nothing broken. Several days in hospital, many tests. Nothing could be found "wrong."

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Andi Hofmann's avatar

All inorganic antiseptic have a safe therapeutic band.

They

- dissolve blood clots even not crackable by our enzymes due to being knitted by the spike

- eat upon the spike

- soothe the immune system

- of course, killing all pathogens (in covid infection, 1/3 viral load was shown). No wonder, but useful.

- are said to be able to help in fighting cancer. Please find right timing for Vitamin C/Zn intervention, any anti-oxidant is the natural antagonist of any oxidant, and remedy in case of inadvertant overdose (iv Vit.C especially); some do pause CIO2 while doing a C cure. In everyday life, I try to keep some 2hr distance. (For true C cure: 10g/d as infusion, you stop oxidative systemic cures of course). Instead of infusion, one can use truly liposomally solved in 100nm bubbles. (Many fraudsters there just mixing C solution and phospholipides, which is, without bubble formation, quite worthless.)

Other anti-cancer options:

Mistletoe subcutaneously.

Artemisa annua and moringa leaf (prolonging active serum concentration) also are valid cancer, CoV, malaria, …, therapies. See anamed.org

So much more.

Don’t forget the other 2 acis of being: to heal the soul and try to learn information therapy from enegetic healing. TCM, ayurveda or russian information therapy trainings.

But firstly, one has to know why the cancer is necessary. As reduction of CD4/CD8 by LNP of mRNA shots is disabling the ability to fight stalled cancer, the cancer was there before. In the book Prof. Dr. Peter Yoda: Ein medizinischer Insider deckt auf, the author states 1. there are no illnesses (these are names to harvest 100k humans simultaneously), but (sometimes deadly) symptoms: a set of hidden and open symptoms are always the perfect response of our natural system to a state and NECESSARY. Nature is always right.

So help to find interventions for your friends making the symptom Cancer unneccesary.

Dig deeper. Detective’s work is necessary.

Inorganic antiseptics are very universally useable, and can NEVER have any resistances.

But they are just ONE intervention.

Also used in spanish flu military hospitals to disinfect the air, also in bunker ventilation in WW-II on all sides. Meaning: some archives hold valid procedures to use them today. Some companies do. Room dry fog disinfection for hospitals is so safe you can stay insides the room.

Try translating this for history of medicinal use of inorganic antiseptics: https://www.presseportal.ch/de/pm/100076262/100858689

And here is an example of dry fog room disinfection: please use a translator.

https://mediset.de/raumdesinfektion/

Here a paper from 1943 (used for bunker air disinfection?):

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20475674/

Well. Tell the roommdisinfection device it has a 500m² room of a disco, and people walk out healthier than they walk in, and do not spread for the incubation time (all inorganic antiseptics do a least a RESET on incubation time. Thanks Prof. Zastrow for this, DE former StiKo leader. Hygienist.)

The usages are quite endless. Eg. I used ClO2 3000ppm in DMSO 70% as tick bite relief, where it killed lyme in 1 day, healing point 1,5 days. lyme is very stationery in the first days. I even produced it insides the flask (4ml DMSO 1ml water in a 150ml jar glas, and put a 20ml glas with 2ml 25% NaClO2 and 2ml 50% citric acid in it. Close lid of 150ml glass tightly. The freed ClO2 gets in the air and diffuses insides the solution. Give it a few hours until it is a yellow-orange color, tending to 5000ppm.

Rinse away the residual bleach in the 20ml glass.

Strong: But it evaporates on every opening of the 150ml glass. Reduce by storing in fridge. For warts, abcesses (in teeth roots), etc: use a patch of cotton without plastic fibres like wound patch or cotton wool patches from supermarked to apply to skin.

Sorry for editing so much. I just wanted to shy away some typos and got carried away. Next time I do a reply.

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Tank Hough's avatar

There's no breakdown of (excess) deaths by vax status--so conclusions like that are impossible to make.

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Steve's avatar

Dr Ryan Cole (Mayo clinic trained pathologist) explains in the following video how tissue samples can be stained and analyzed to determine if the spike proteins in the tissue are a result of infection or injection. From this, one can determine the sudden deaths are a result of the INJECTIONS. Injection caused spikes (not virus caused) are overwhelming the tissues in organs.

See the 26 minute mark in this video:

https://rumble.com/v1y4u78-foot-long-blood-clots-from-mrna-says-pathologist-dr.-ryan-cole-w-dr-kelly-v.html

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Mystic William's avatar

Conclusions are sketchy. But one can infer something easily enough. Most discoveries are inferred first. Proved second. One can’t wait for proof, which is what the pro vax crowd keeps saying - ‘what proof do you have?’ - because until something is inferred it won’t be looked into and then proved.

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Nick's avatar

Yep. And in the meantime there will be 13 new strains and 3 vaxx mandates forcing the 7th jab on you. In a fast moving situation, truth (data), common sense and educated intiution and inference is all we got.

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Andi Hofmann's avatar

Well there kind of is, but the ONS GB lied about the number of unvaccinated people in each age group by ca. _factor_ 2 (as in denominator, they made it smaller by 2x) to "bend reality" to the liking of the cabal. And prevent the truth of superior nK / innate trained immunity to become wide-spread. As this would end the pandemic. And that of all-cause mortality sky-rocketing for the jabbed.

See

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/ons-data-25-excess-mortality-among

Follow it and download the source data from ONS.

Then we have to discuss the correction factor on numbers of unvaccinated in each age group ;)

There was also Data released till May 2022, where I do not know if they lied, and in my view it already showed that vaccinated were suffering from ADE-D as of May, so Omicron BA.4 and following... So depending if you believe Omicron evolved or was thawed you have 1yr or 3mths of "adopting" by up-selcection of variants to bring ADE-D over a group of people being "uniformly" contaminated by B-cell based antibodies, I more and more perceive as the true vulnerability. (Up-select, not evolve, as all variants possible, at least in waves, are existing in parallel. So no surprise it is so fast. The true evolution has to be analyzed as "evolutionary capacity", and is the real thing to monitor.)

No B-cell based antibodies: Could be a short formulation of CoV therapy goal, to avoid the necessity to produce them, (I combine COMUSAV CIO2 in ca. 1mg/kg/day on 1L water, split in 10 dosings on empty stomach, which is 1/3 of NOAEL dosing and some parts of FLCCC I can buy over-the counter, and 4 plant based axis: kitchen herbs or annual mugwort or birch tree bark, all containing amentoflavone, boosted by moringa leaf powder, and add other principles of operation, found cistus rose (rock rose), and walnut leafs, all ground and eating 10-15g/d in sum bound in eg yoghurt or water with grapefruit seed extract (solved in glycerine, prebiotic, good plant oil based, which is enhancing resorption perhaps by 3-5x, measure it, if you can)).

To compensate the risk of having high titers of spike (wuhan) antibodies like me (50k), while having NONE after 3 days CoV with some fever on nucleocapsid, showing the effect of antigenic sin live and in color (printout from lab;).

End pandemic:

A) give "litte cold" a chance, but protect vulnerable

B) on nasty symptoms, cry STOP to all your contacts, shall treat as if having the flu.

B: if you decide a badass variant hit you (flu-like symptoms, bringing you down). This is subjective and works only in average. But it works.

One can discuss that we have to correct by age and nK status. Children sometimes run happily around having a real flu-like illness.

Peru did it. India did this with early treatment packages. But tested too much.

(See how again a "measure" like mass testing PREVENTS herd immunity and endemic state? If you catch away all variants regardless of virulence, you postpone up-selection of harmless variants, thus postpone endemic state. For 3 years now. "No measures" would let people run on intuition, and they'd adopt behavior by reports from friends of friends, wich is 10k people, and this is millions of years old. All ethical interventions must emulate or fortify these old strategies of all mammals living social: the severely ill retreat, and upon coming back, shed broken pathogens the family or herd can train their innate antibodies from. Driving pathogens to endemic state.

Similarly the "hygiene rules" PREVENT endemic state and sterilizing immunity, as the beautiful thought of hygiene is covered by lies:

- Droplets infect, mainly, not aerosols, which rather train without infecting up to a certain point.

- Droplets fly 3m AND hover 40sec while slowly sinking down, whirring and whirling and drifting with the air, and SEEKING slits in masks to face line, as the pressure drop is Lowest there. ONE droplet carries the infectious dose. 10k's of droplets are emitted by sneezing, coughing AND NOSE BLOWING.

- Masks in theory work. But only there. Chased them so long.

- Masks prevent 99% of aerosol "training", but could not show in real life with good statistics they protect at all.

- Masks +70% on severe cases:

If I catch my own viruses in the inner layer(s) of the mask, if I'm infected, and they get re-aerosolised and deeply inhaled into alveoli, solid statistics tell +70% probability of severe cause when wearing a mask. Perhaps this is ameliorated if being able to wear a mask of water-repellent fibre fleece so densely blown it captures dried aerosols (0.1µm) without the need of a water film surrounding the fibre or electrostatic principles (which is how PE masks work)

- NO MENTIONING of topically inactivating viruses by gargling (1/5ths start in saliva glans, 4/5ths in throat ring, 1% elsewhere, for smokers more (distributed) due to cilial filaments paralysis). Especially all inorganic antiseptics are helpful there, as they diffuse into the dead cells and inactivate viral load while still captured in the cell walls. Doing RESET on incubation period.

- NO MENTIONING of possibility to inhale (yes, even inorganic antiseptics. All have a therapeutic band. We use 800ppm NaHCIO produced electrolytically. Shall be Cl2 free.

- NO MENTIONING you can measure mucosal health status by just breathing to a pm2.5 fine dust / air quality sensor: 1 day _before_ infectiousness, yes for CoV, we accidentally measured the base level had risen by factor 7 ca., to 35µg/m³.

- NO MENTIONING of 2-charged metal ions Mg++ Ca++ (stone or Dead Sea salt or add Ca2Cl) preventing aerosol emission for 6hrs.

- FEAR PORN heavily reduces nK, as does the PEG2k.

- Lockdowns heavily reduce nK and rise spread in families and institutions (the more people are out in free air, the better it would be). And burn our wealth.

As in waves ALL variants exist in parallel, it just depends on our immunity AND our behavior, which can also compensate deficits in immunity.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Everyone has VAIDS!

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Martha72's avatar

"These shots ALSO work by inducing the body to produce spike protein without even being exposed to SARS-CoV-2." That seems to be the main thing that the shots do - cause people to make spike protein on a continual basis. But from a recent podcast by Dr. Ryan Cole, I understood that the spike protein turns on a gene that causes cancer and also turns off a gene that regulates the immune system. Most of the damage we know about thus far seems to come from the spike protein. Agree it is very "effective" at what it was designed to do, and what it was designed to do is not at all what they said it would do.

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Amerikan Werewolf's avatar

I'm going to have to investigate that further. I don't know whether to be grateful or disturbed by the fact that this horror show happens to be about one of my absolute favorite subjects (molecular biology with a focus on genetics).

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Andi Hofmann's avatar

Concentrate on epigenetic reprogramming, as this is what the PEG2k medical DEVICE is doing.

I did only find hints that re-regulating epigenetic setup is the true art in medicine, and found only TCM energy-build-up cure, Ayurveda Karma cure and many energetic healing approaches like shamanic, Russian information therapy, Hawaiian, etc.. healing system mostly working only for people socialized in them, or open minded enough to adopt the cultural aspect before expecting healing.

The hits on epigenetic mess the mRNA jabs do NOT by the mRNA (was shown with "dummy" load insides PEG2k bubble!):

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs - PubMed Reprograms ..

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35436552/

Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune responses and alters innate immune fitness in an inheritable fashion | bioRxiv reprograms innate:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.16.484616v2

The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses | medRxiv

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1

discussed here

https://jessicar.substack.com/p/the-bnt162b2-mrna-vaccine-against

I have to walk this one through to determine of we can deduce any therapeutic approach:

Targeting epigenetic modifiers to reprogramme macrophages in non-resolving inflammation-driven atherosclerosis | European Heart Journal Open | Oxford Academic

https://academic.oup.com/ehjopen/article/1/2/oeab022/6353605#

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Martha's avatar

IMHO, repeated/cumulative damage to bodily systems, be it by vax or infection, is a potential culprit, given that most people are not being treated with known therapeutics and supplements.

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Mark Baumann's avatar

The study showing DNA changes to the liver. Would it become a perpetual spike giver? Breaching the brain blood barrier with the nanoparticles passing through. Would not Brain cells become spike protein manufacturer too?

The different doses with different amounts, could wave the line. But the testing is deficient we still find. This paper seems more for narrative. No hard evidence for the dire imparrative. Still can't get over the millimeter radiation exposure. 5G is the elephant seemingly given closure.

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Peter Taggart's avatar

The brain cells do. see Burkhardt, Cole, and Bhakti, as talked of in this conversation. Not heard more on the in vitro liver cell conversions as yet...

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Mark Baumann's avatar

Bhakti warnned of these possibilies now seems a longtime ago. The migration seemed a given using nano.

Liver- Swedish Lund University, gene producing protien 1-line. They saw migration to liver within 6 hrs time. I appologize the period after "liver" above should have been a comma, I wasn't sure. Because I did understand this study inconclusive & called for more. Curious if you knew. But this 5G needs attention too. With the heavy rollout it does coincide. With same damages & same time. Barry Trower has that brain power. If your interested in millimeter wave towers. Decades of studies are in on this tech. I never see it mentioned or any check. My local area tells me wants their built it's national security. Curiously my emails been wrecked since I FOIA-ed the safety. Going on 22 days. Trouble let me count the ways. And nothing yet on cellular water meter....

Thank you for the response Peter !!

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Peter Taggart's avatar

Dr McCullough reported a coroborative study a while back, on the liver cell story.

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Martha72's avatar

The whole concept of the mRNA vax is that we will make the spike protein, and then our bodies will learn to make antibodies against spike protein. However, the common belief among average citizens was that the you would only make a little spike protein, and the vax would stay at the injection site. However, it immediately travels to every organ in the body, which was not publicized in advance. The Japanese regulators said they had to see distribution studies in order to consider using the mRNA vaccines, so distribution studies were done in mice. This showed that the vaccine travels everywhere in the body, and it particularly concentrates in the ovaries and testes - the greatest concentreation is in the overies and testes. But, it's also in the bone marrow, in the spleen, etc. - every part of the body. Dr. Mike Yeadon, a former VP at Pfizer, who left them on good terms, who has 30_ years experience with vaccines and with respiratory viruses etc., was warning people about the vax in advance of rollout, as he thought proper research had not been done, After the distribution study was done, he tried to make people aware of it, and also Dr. Byram Bridle was another who publicized this research. From their reports, I didn't pay attention enough to what they said about the brain, I was more worried about it destroying women's fertility - destroying their ability to ever get pregnant, if it was causing inflammation in the ovaries - but then I heard Dr. Sam Sigoloff who I think in this one was being interviewed for an Epoch Times video - Dr. Sigoloff is a military whistleblower, a physician, who pointed out that the lipid nanoparticles were patented by Moderna in 2017 for the stated purpose of getting stuff into the brain - a drug delivery system. And I'm thinking, why do they especially want to get this vax into the brain? The brain is not the place where we make antibodies. But the lipid nanoparticles were designed as a drug delivery system to get stuff into the brain, and put in the vax for some purpose. Why? Well, I had seen past research, maybe from 2015 showing that lipid nanoparticles do help drugs to get inside the cells throughout the body - but as far as the brain, Dr. Sigoloff reported that it has been found that CRSPER (gene editing tool) is also in the vax - so you can get stuff into the brain and then do gene editing in the brain? For what purpose? "We don't know." But as far as how long people keep making the spike protein, what I have been hearing is that ;whenever they check, two weeks later, a month, two months later - whenever they check, people are still making mRNA, and they make a LOT of it. I saw today a report on someone making it 4 months later. Normally mRNA gets broken down and disappears after use, but the uracil from the mRNA strands was replaced with pseudouridine for the vax, which is much more enduring, more long lasting, so it will just keep going and you can make a ton of the spike protein because the mRNA in the vax was seemingly made to hang around forever - they should be checking to see is it there at 1 year? 2 years? But they guys with all the money don't want to do any research that would make their product look bad - they do not want to know. Sigoloff has videos on rumble. His you-tube videos were taken down, and I am not sure about all of it being on rumble. But I am pretty sure the first one I saw was about a 20 min. video on Epoch Times which was very interesting. He said lipid nanoparticles were never approved for veterinary use and never approved for human use either but here everyone who got the shot got some in their bodies.

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Mark Baumann's avatar

Thank you! I missed Dr. Bridle but It’s beyond insane. I’ve had to a deep dive into virology to find the “theory” brain. Fortunate to find Dr. Cowan & Andrew Kaufman tearing it down. The grift of bioweapons tech & vaccine with its military gown. Vaccines from the beginning are an immune damaging proposition. But that is what I’ve found so far on my imposition.

Some things you may want to see because you mentioned the brain. “Analysis of inter body network components” nice name. Bill Gates patent for “digital id crypto”. Goes well with “ATT intra body transmission & reception” patents to hook us up the new tower we all know. “Harald Kautz-Vella” Frequency transmission & reception of atomic photon light. “Barry Trower” military frequency weapons expert out of sight. “Mark Steele” being attacked wiki bio conspiracy theorist. Which is funny he is weapons inventor & expert just dismissed. Mark is getting towers taken down in UK. He knows the tech inside making led light standards, & the towers weapons system in play. It is an information war as per usual a lot to sift through. My conclusions reserved open but I see an attempt at depopulation & total control to be true. Bio war & complete commerce redo.

With the geoengineering, amount on nano aluminum in foods, rain, soil, & now snow. We are the IOT internet of things hive mind to grow. AI may have been released. The implications to me are quite a beast. But this is why the confidence of crime is so high. Frequency already can inflict effects of choice to apply. If it has been done by an enemy first. This is catch up but I doubt that is the thirst. "Bell labs photons etc" & "DARPA hydrogel" is basically the nano lipid particles. "Graphene oxide & hydroxide" seek articles. I’m still burrowing in but it’s none good news for we the owners here. But you see the distractions. Meantime every minute further reactions. "Harald Kautz-vella" claims 70% hooked up but the control is limited due to spirit. The nano breaks that bond & I’m seeking it's merit. It also figures B. Gates plays into this scheme. Mining crypto internally with behavior whatever the rules may be.

I saw Dr. Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Judy Mikovits, Sigaloff among others thank God they were there! I’ve sucked up a bit too much to be offhand name aware. Once I prepared a massive case I was burnt & dove into law. Few attorneys will cross the line of this power play. So, going alone is where I’m standing today. Iron clad case like the Brunson denial. The SCOTUS who in dereliction avoided trial. But it’s not quite over yet. From what I hear their appeal is set. If its denied again all federal balances but military code of justice have failed. The Attorney Generals of the states ship hasn’t sailed. But they have a twenty four page claim plus files I sent. So, if you pray or send vibes, please, heavy like cement. Your info much appreciated keep the assent. Hope it will be seen & read post haste. We are losing this battle & no time to waste. Keep pumping the information. Sorry I couldn’t supply more right now but a small foundation. Got to hit the sack. Hope we get back!

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zaza40's avatar

that said by pr Bakhdi if I remember

And spike stay and some produce many or no

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shibumi's avatar

Not sure if you're familiar with the work of The Ethical Skeptic on Twitter, but he's got charts galore that seem to say the excess deaths are heart, blood and cancer related. FWIW.

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pobrecollie's avatar

I am on the fence with Ethical Skeptic. He seems smart but doesn't explain himself well (compared to EL Gato Malo for example). Also people have asked him to share his data but he complains that it would take too much time and he couldn't get on with more important stuff, however surely many people working on the same data would provide far more insights.

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Jeff C's avatar

Have the same sense but thought I was the only one. He often speaks in riddles which I assumed was to escape the twitter ban-hammer. However, now that it has been lifted he has not changed.

There really is no good reason to avoid speaking clearly (like Igor does). Playing games and forcing people to figure out what you really mean is not only annoying to the reader, but bound to cause misunderstandings. It is however, an effective way to avoid hard claims that can later be disproven.

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shibumi's avatar

Have you ever heard an interview with Dr. Judy Miskovits? It's kind of the same thing. She is very immersed in her world, and has a hard time dumbing it down. In fact, most of what she says in any interview can go over the normal person's head.

Perhaps it's the same thing for TES. He just can't figure out a way to dumb things down for the rest of us. Maybe he just doesn't have that skill to take it down four steps.

That being said... TES does not necessarily seem wrong.

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pobrecollie's avatar

Alex Berenson speaks clearly, but his conclusions are often easy to shoot down. Ethical Skeptic is too complicated to understand, so you can't necessarily do that. Took me ages to work out what the pull forward effect is - he talks about that a lot.

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

planly speaking is not dumbing things down; quite the opposite. :)

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shibumi's avatar

Interesting comment re: Ethical Skeptic. I'm not a data/math/chart person, and have, at times, had a hard time understanding his charts. I just get the gist of them, aka "deaths going up." I thought it was just me.

Perhaps there is a reason we don't know that he's keeping his data vague. IDK.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

So far.

Wait a little longer for the prion diseases.

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altruistica's avatar

I'd agree with this idea, that the excess deaths are full of the fall-out of a compromised immune system, damaged by mRNA vaccines, along with measurable damage to the heart and other organs just like Sucharit Bhakdi said would happen.

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Peter Taggart's avatar

Multi organ, including brain tissue, damage confirmed by Arne Burkhardt.... with injection spike protein distinguished from viral spike. Viral spike allegedly rarely getting past the mucosal membrane.

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Bird's avatar

And unlike Burkhardt's investigations, your daily friendly coroners in the UK left to deal with all this mess do not have the tools and circumstances to investigate whether Spike and other immune cells have torn up various tissues in the body. As mentioned in Igor's article, this leads to default, vague, socially acceptable descriptions describing death due to heart-related issue: this is the easiest default to write on the form, which cleanly ties things up for administrative processes and gives 'closure' to the family without having to cart their loved one off to the steel table and start cutting them up to dig around – normally preferable to all parties concerned. Even if a detailed autopsy were done, to detect Spike you need to order specialized markers from biotech labs. This isn't in the back pocket of normal practitioners. So when we see these heart-related causes of death, don't take that label too seriously.

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Hi Bird! I found the following intriguing...

Tyler Hagen on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/JTylerHagen

Angie says the spike was still in her body 603 days post vaccination with no incidence of Covid. I hope she is able to share the data, and it would be even better if there are no nucleocapsid antibodies present. That would really put a nail in the coffin on these injections.

Quote TweetReact19@React19org· 13hAccording to the @CDCgov, the mRNA from the vaccine is broken down and discarded from the body within a few days.

Angie's test results showed the spike protein was still present and wreaking havoc in her body 603 days after her vaccine and she never had COVID.

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Bird's avatar

And this is a fun number to consider, because in lab experiments it takes 6 hours for Spike to cause cells to melt together into a Syncytia blob, and about 24 hours before those cells start to die. When you consider that heart cells, brain cells, ovaries and eggs, progenitor cells that are supposed to build our new supply of blood -- all these things are targeted by Spike. 603 days (and counting) is longer than 6 hours.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

This makes me really wonder if anyone is testing for spike protein in those reporting to having been affected by vax shedding but no known case of contracting covid....like me.

I have an upcoming checkup with the VA but don't know if they do that kind of testing.

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sadie's avatar

Just wondering what test is used to show she never had it? Does the vax create a different antibody than that of the 'novel' corona? One thing this seems to have brought out is how little is understood about our immune system.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

My good doctor friend says the same thing about autopsies - you need specialised tests, thus limited data which suits the perps. https://cmnnews.org/

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Just a Clinician's avatar

True enough.

Congo red is not expensive, though, and that will at least document whether amyloid is present.

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Bird's avatar

Nice idea.

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Suze Omniverse's avatar

This is why they are repeatedly asking about people's mental health! Doctors, at work in corporations, I even seen an advert on the back of a bus ! They know it will affect the brain...and they're taking count....

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JC's avatar

In my small town in South Wales I am seeing a lot of behavioural changes in people. The best way to describe it is simply 'people acting odd'. It is hard to put a label on it. However, I am also noticing increasing anger outbursts, above normal, in males. It reminds me of early dementia signs.

I wonder whether people have internal inflammation from the spike with a massive battle going on inside of them. If you have any inflammation due to wheat or sugar or pollen it plays havoc with you physically, with a resulting knock-on effect mentally. I do think spike is doing this to people.

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Lawrence Butts's avatar

Watch this video. Be prepared to be shocked and possibly depressed. Yes your observations are correct. https://www.bitchute.com/video/vEp62UaWXB0x/

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Janet's avatar

When I quit eating wheat anxiety and joint pain went down. It probably explained my eating disorder (a mental illness) when I was in my 20’s also. I didn’t figure out the wheat thing until my 60’s. I don’t get gastrointestinal problems from the wheat and the gluten, I get joint pain and anxiety. Unvaxxed.

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I think the clot shots are the cause of the massive increase in "unruly passengers" on airplanes and actual duels resulting from road rage in the US. There was one uncomfortably close to me here in Kansas, USA a few months ago where the two participants killed each other. Another one "featured" a girl in each car getting shot. We haven't had road rage like THAT before.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Cue the zombie apocalypse everyone knew was coming! 😯

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

As time goes by evidence will emerge but we will need to rely of anecdotal reports, thus Substack will be crucial for information dissemination as the MSM will block it.

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skintnick's avatar

Not noticed by me in Blaenavon

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Castigator's avatar

Liver damage => anger outbursts; to be expected due to the poison death shot biodistribution. So much for internal inflammation.

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Mystic William's avatar

My family comes from Kidwelly.

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Peter Taggart's avatar

The lipid nanoparticles are very relevant to this, without them the spike wouldn't get so far beyond the circulatory system. However, the spike can burst through anyway , when the immune system attacks cells in the vessel linings producing spike.. Then there is homogenicity to other proteins, and ..... I'm expecting waves of death for the rest of the century.

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Suze Omniverse's avatar

Yes unfortunately...this was the eugenecists plan...sadly they may have been right in estimating / wanting 90% of the population to die eventually....then who is left? The pure blood unvaxed to be enslaved into their smart cities...and maybe permitted to breed stronger slaves so they won't need to spend so much on medical care.

But we must look at it optimistically and fight them however we can- opposing all their tricks, non compliance, information sharing, natural harmless medical treatments for whatever they throw at us. Coming together in communities - but where in the world could it grow large enough to not infiltrate? Brazilian escaped slaves fought the Portuguese off for over a century...maybe we need to all come together in one place so we are strong enough?

https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/quilombo-brazilian-maroons-during-slavery

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Karl Childers's avatar

Cationic nanoparticles

Fun times

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Nat's avatar

Especially in the light of the IgG4 findings. It could be that the double, triple etc vaxxed are having a hard time clearing any covid strain, or even ANY respiratory virus strain. The nightmare scenario would be where they get infected, have a bit of symptoms, nothing severe, but the virus spreads unhindered (because IgG4 tags it as 'safe') deep into their lungs and other organs where it does damage over time.

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Dan's avatar

Your comment gets to the core of Geert's prediction. One one hand we have the immune system "tolerating" strains with non neutralizing antibodies attached to them, on the other we have the strains mutating to a point where they will overcome those antibodies eventually. In Geert's videos he often uses the term "exhaustion" to describe the immune system's constant attempt to deal with viral material that it can't clear from the body due to non neutralizing antibodies. We might see that playing a larger role as pathogens gain an advantage, simply because the opposing army is too tired to put up a fight.

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skintnick's avatar

Not quite, imho. He talked of a strain being *more* lethal (using an argument I could not understand) rather than your explanation of the host being unable to clear a sublethal strain.

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Shades's avatar

Was coming to the comments to say the same thing. IgG4 response in the vaxxed could conceivably cause immune system to ignore covid infection, which would cause mild or possibly no symptoms while the virus replicates unchecked eventually leading to death.

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Andrea's avatar

Igor are you watching the work of Walter Chesnut? Substack.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yes, I am watching his work indeed

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pobrecollie's avatar

What do you make of his stuff? I did follow him but he comes across as a bit over the top.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I would just say that some of his ideas need additional confirmation before I can accept them.

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Wesleyj's avatar

Loves a bit of drama, me thinks.

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Jeff C's avatar

THIS IS MY BIGGEST FINDING YET!!! starts to wear off after about the twentieth post.

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Steve C's avatar

Way to go Igor Chudov! I think Walter is consistently on the cutting edge.

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Jrenn's avatar

Check Walter out. He seems to have it all figure it out if everyone else I’ve been following.

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Boudicca's avatar

Kevin McCairn and Charles Rixey have a lot to offer the debate too.

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shibumi's avatar

He's on Twitter as well.

https://twitter.com/parsifaler

1. I don't understand most of what he says, outside of "oh, this sounds super bad"

2. He doesn't differentiate between spike proteins from COVID and spike proteins from the vaxx, which generally makes me super anxious since I did have COVID in '20

So... non-med people be forewarned: Chesnut is NOT for the faint of heart.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

There is only a small (and nonsignificant) difference between SARS-CoV2 spike and vax spike.

But take heart. You are not corrupted with mRNA programming you to keep making spike. Your immune system has cleared the spike you had in 2020. (And if you're concerned, take nattokinase or something similar to block spike.)

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shibumi's avatar

That's what I figured.... and thank you for the reassurances. I've also taken Vitamin I, and regularly take NAC. So whatever was there is gone.

You've said exactly what my husband has said. :)

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MsDemeanor's avatar

And let's not forget those who may have avoided the virus but were unable to avoid having a response or sickened by shedding from the vaxxed. That seems even harder to determine what is, or might, remain long term.

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Wesley B's avatar

That's a few other things I've tried taking for my leg with no yearly for about two months easy successively. Nattokinase, serepterase, the one from earthworms...uhh lumbrokinase. Oh and grapeseed.

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Wesley B's avatar

I had natural covid too in May or April 2022 so maybe delta or omicron. I was pretty sick for three days straight. so I worry about this also. My body has not quite felt the same. My leg keeps swelling if i do no wear compression socks now and I have varicose veins in my thirties?? I'm otherwise fit and healthy. Not overweight. I've tried herbal teas like pine tea, NAC, querctin, zinc, high doses of vitamin c, d and k2, and more recently tried clo2. 😅 also, I took ivermectin while infected and taken it sometimes since for a week or so at a time at 12mg/day. I'm going to maybe try dmso and clo2 together next and a prolonged seven day water only fast. Hoping that partially heals my leg somehow.

For clarification, completely unvaccinated.

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Mrs S's avatar

Take serrapeptase capsules to clear any vascular scarring (take in between meals).

Also horsechestnut is a tonic for the veins, will reduce swelling and is anti-inflammatory. Take capsules (enteric if possible because it can cause reflux) or tincture.

Signed A Herbalist.

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I have serrapeptase and just take one tablet a week (1 dose of AZ vax more than 2 years ago, 1 mild covid infection last year). I'm thinking more of my daughters who succumbed to the "vax passport" propaganda and got 2/3 mRNA shots each despite me desperately trying to stop them. Would they benefit from serrapeptase to help clear spike? Would Nattokinase be more effective? Help please x

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Don't worry shibumi, if you have made it this far then that tells me your immune system has mastered Covid - nothing to worry about. My wife an I both had Covid in January 2020 (when they didn't know what it was). My wife was very sick for a month, I was less affected with just a bad cough for a month.

My wife is South African and had never been north in her life until we moved back to UK in 2009 to retire. So she had limited exposure to flu which I have been exposed to for much of my life but have never actually had it. Our good doctor friend in Brisbane recommended daily vitamin D & C and zinc (with green tea - an ionophore and anti viral combo) to boost our immune systems.

We have had not even a sniffle since. The Geeks think they know how to manage our magical immune system - they know nothing - this is the province of a power greater than us. Take an entertaining short trip around our amazing immune system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIJK3dwCWCw

Just because they have decoded the 3 billion sets of amino acids in our DNA doesn't mean they understand it, let alone messing with it - this is the province of dark forces.

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Wesley B's avatar

Could you provide a link to his substack?

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Nathalie's avatar

Yes Igor do

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Steve C's avatar

You don’t have to like his style. The fact is, he’s reporting his findings as soon as he can. If you want a jump on the data, he’s the best.

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kertch's avatar

Another effect predicted when the vaccine was first introduced is ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) infection. Non-sterilizing vaccines are known to cause this. This could make subsequent infections worse than the original.

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

And then those get blamed on reinfections being worse than the first infection, and/or newer variants being worse than the original. Or just blamed on "climate change".

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Happiness: AViewpoint!'s avatar

MRNA does lessen the immune system. It was invented for allergies. It works the same way by suppressing immune symptoms so over stimulation/ inflammation doesn’t kill us. .... that’s why they said it helps with lessening symptoms but will not stop the spread.

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No One Knows's avatar

from what you presented it looks like the amount of mRNA excreted by the population correlates with deaths so its got to be CV19 as the source, some variant of it...

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

But how would that explain the excess deaths for the unvaxxed who get covid in highly vaxxed countries - Unless spike protein shedding is a real thing? As your research shows, vax status did not matter when it comes to 'catching' covid and excess deaths.

Maybe it has something to do with immune systems which overproduce certain killer cells or spike proteins - one of the reasons I rejected getting the shots. some of us have immune systems that attack our bodies. (It's thought that much of this problem and big increases in things like asthma, eczema, and other autoimmune overreactions come from exposure to toxins and pollutants in our food, water, air, etc) What do you think?

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Dan's avatar

The inconsistencies in data collection and publication between health authorities has made these numbers difficult to trust. "With" covid vs "From" covid, and then where I live, there is no longer an "unvaccinated" category as this has been replaced with "not fully vaccinated". This new way of categorizing people's status is quite the disservice in my opinion, and makes the "not fully vaccinated" group appear inflated due to the multiple qualifiers that would put someone in it. It's completely possible that the unvaxxed are also experiencing excess deaths, but I'm not sure how to qualify that or determine if the rate exceeds a trend prior to 2020.

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Thanks for the response, Dan. I'm uneasy about so much of this that I am reading and watching in videos. My immune system attacks itself. There are a lot of us with these types of autoimmune overblown responses; ie things like Lupus. Even before the plandemic, these autoimmune inflammation responses, most likely from toxins everywhere, were on a dramatic rise. But maybe, after watching Vaxxed 2 - it all came from all these vaccines. Who knows? I just know that after to listening to an Australian immunologist that John Campbell had interviewed, it made me glad I had chosen not to believe the hype or take the jabs because he was describing people like me who have this problem.

Spike protein shedding from the quadruple- vaxxed or boosted... I believe it is a real thing. I have never stopped mixing with people, including the vaxxed - but carefully - and outdoors mostly - but life has to go on and Life is for living. For awhile I did nothing social with them in closed quarters; only mixed in the store or the post office with them. Now I am attending quilt group again. they are all vaxxed. I sit in a far corner, masked (and knowing it does me no good but they are all afraid of unjabbed me, except for a few who treat me like i am not typhoid mary.

I'm nervous; maybe I shouldn't have let my guard down and risked my health like this. I am supposed to attend a quilting camp and most if not ALL of the quilters are vaxxed - a former requirement to attend camp -until this year. I'm thinking of cancelling, much as i would love to see those ladies.

The thought of this and its implications is just too sad to contemplate. First, the vaxxed themselves, believing the hype, rejected all of us unvaxxed and blamed us for the spread while they are the ones who partied together and gave each other covid. Now that we are officially "accepted" back into parts of society (still not work, though!!!!) it seems we may be taken out with spike protein shedding; was that part of the Plan to use these people to also transfect us? I am deeply disturbed and depressed over this. Every death I hear of now, I suspect the jabs and whatever bioweapon has been put into them.

Also, what you said about their mixing partly vaxxed with unvaxxed makes me think the very worst; that this is part of their plan to transfect the unvaxxed with the mRNA. Those with strong and balanced immune systems may be able to fight it off. Those with overreactive immune systems may not. And we still get every bug that comes along anyway. When i avoided them for two years I was the healthiest I had ever been; not one cold. But I was a dumb one who wore the mask out in public. As soon as I took that off I got every OTHER thing. I believe I had covid in early 2020 when I was in bed with exhaustion for a month and a half. Thanks for listening and for responding to my query, which was meant for Igor but I guess he didn't see it. It is good to read intelligent comments from people trying to know the truth.

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Charlotte's avatar

I just found out that a friend with cancer got a booster and now it’s super aggressive and he is in for the battle of his life. I cant even tell him or his wife that they have to stop the boosters, because they will think I’m crazy. It’s so upsetting. I just cannot wrap my head around the doctors advising them to get it while they are battling cancer!

So cancer will also need to be factored into this, those who unknowingly have cancer or pre-cancerous cells could be converting it to something terminal. Brian Mowrey wrote about Liquid Cancer and Ethical Skeptic is tracking all sorts of cancer increases too.

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shibumi's avatar

It's called Turbo Cancer. Used to be they caught cancer at stage 1. Now cancer appears at stage 4 and you die very quickly.

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God,seriously's avatar

Three members of my family have died of turbo cancer since the vaccination begun.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Sorry God , seriously 🙏 for your losses

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God,seriously's avatar

Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Mark Anthony Hoffman's avatar

Sorry to hear that. Two members of my family have contracted cancer after being vaccinated. Both are doing ok after treatment. Can't be sure it is related to the vax, but both were 50 years old and in prior good health.

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Diane's avatar

My 51 year old daughter was diagnosed with Stage 2 invasive breast cancer quite a few months after her 3rd Pfizer. Tried to talk her out of booster to no avail. Has had surgery in December and now facing weeks of radiotherapy. This type of cancer has been so far unheard of in our family. So don't know if vax related but I'm very suspicious.

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God,seriously's avatar

I hope she makes a full recovery. Thanks for sharing your story.

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God,seriously's avatar

I hope that both of your family members make a full recovery.

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Mark Anthony Hoffman's avatar

Thanks. So far, so good.

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Fizzygurl's avatar

Good Lord! 💔 So sorry

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God,seriously's avatar

Thanks.

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Lawrence Butts's avatar

Horrible - take care

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God,seriously's avatar

Thank you.

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Nigel Addison's avatar

Yes, one of my colleagues has developed stage 4 breast cancer in both breasts. Fully jabbed

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Patricia Russell's avatar

This interview came out a while back with a Swedish pathologist who is seeing an alarming increase in cancers after Covid vaccination. She remarks on the increase in breast cancer with previously rare large tumors and she is seeing the unusual occurrence of cancer in both breasts. The interview has subtitles but I thought it was worth it.

https://rumble.com/v1eenkp-turbo-cancer-swedish-pathologist-notices-dramatic-increase-in-fast-growing-.html

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Rhymes With "Brass Seagull"'s avatar

Indeed, and last I checked, turbo cancer is NOT known to be caused by the virus. Or climate change for that matter. So it has to be the jabs.

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Janet's avatar

A new term I heard a doc say.

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STH's avatar

I personally know of 24 cancers, 15 of which are “turbo”

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Boudicca's avatar

My Uncle's cancer has accelerated along with his dementia. Hard to say it is the jab but harder not to see the odd acceleration as anything else. He's now stage 4 and his decline was sudden.

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Mig's avatar

I am so so sorry for you! Take care!!

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Roger's avatar

Email received this morning from a French friend living in Indonesia, aged 65'ish:

"I have had tough times with sickness Roger. I had Omicron on my return from France in December, several month after the booster. Half of December was tough. As I carry on exercising avidly, running and walking long distances, I overdid it two weeks after Omicron and caught a terrible throat infection streptococcus alpha that has left me fighting for 12 days between 10th and 22nd January. This has impacted on an already weakened and swollen prostate."

I intend to reply that he would do humanity a great service by declaring publically that he is almost certainly vax-damaged. Will he write me off as a lunatic?

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shibumi's avatar

I've been toying with a new idea. "There have been a lot of people, including sports figures and celebrities that have been hurt by Big Pharma and the vaxx. Did you ever consider that you might be a victim as well?"

FYI.... I'm not a fan of victim culture. But we have to do something to snap people out of the brainwashing and maybe they can wrap their heads around "I am a victim" as opposed to "I did something stupid."

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Exactly and it does work, do not ask me how I know

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shibumi's avatar

I'm glad it's been field tested and is an option.

People need to get help; there are things they can do to help themselves. We just have to get them to the point where they know they are hurt and need treatment.

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Eli's avatar

I don't think people who aren't already aware associate most of the celeb injuries with the vaccine (it's only 1/100 that admit it - although recently more).

I have heard many times people say - and then I heard someone describe their vax injury and I realized that that was exactly what happened to me.

At least in Israel, I think the vax injury stories penetrated peoples subconsciousness which changed the attitude about getting the shots - people understood there was a serious price.

In short - I think the showing people victims telling their own stories helps.

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Charlotte's avatar

Please have him check out his prostrate- that’s the cancer that is hurting my friend- its supposed to be one you can control, but after the boosters its going out of control. If he catches the cancer early enough he could still get through.

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Charlotte's avatar

After everything we’ve seen in the last 3 years- everything is on the table now! Ripping the tinfoil hat off my head as I write :) If I get up the nerve I will try to send it to him, but gosh, they have TDS so mentioning ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine could be tough :(

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CecilRhodes's avatar

Who knows, it may become the fashion. 🎩

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Eli's avatar

Not if you state it very calmly and subtly, and support it with evidence such as the Cleveland clinic study graph clearly showing an increase in number of shots corresponding to an increase in Covid illness (of course with a link to the study).

Leave the "science ball" with him then.

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Castigator's avatar

Dandelion root might help for the prostate. That would make for a positive message.

https://mylifewithnodrugs.com/dandelion-root-tea/

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Lawrence Butts's avatar

Probably - the vaccine damages brain function too. https://www.bitchute.com/video/vEp62UaWXB0x/

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Eli's avatar

This is the tragedy, certainly for them you cannot raise the issue.

Although I had a similar situation, and as the only one rushing around to try and help the family, the wife of the sick husband was remarkably accepting when I threw in a sentence "and don't get any more of those shots!".

However the sick husband, still believing the system, only went according to his doctor's advice (which surprisingly was in initial agreement to take the ivermectin I gave them, but then reverted to a "no").

Don't underestimate fighting with people today - they argue like they always did - but with the scientific data actually supporting us in the realm of injuries, I have seen a change in the pro-vaxxers about 2 weeks after the argument (dropping masks etc). Not that they will openly admit it, but they are affected.

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sampa's avatar

My mom’s doctor refused to treat her cancer till she got her booster.

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Eli's avatar

I'm lost for words - so sorry.

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skintnick's avatar

I have a friend who was biopsied* and found prostate cancer. The hospital said they wouldn't operate unless he had the booster. This in South Wales, UK. Clearly unethical, criminal even. He meekly went along with it. I worry very much about this friend and have saved the Ivermectin study linked above to send to him at some point...

*there are 2 ways of doing a prostate biopsy, through the front or through the bowel. Guess what? They recommended the latter (which I already knew from some tiny germ of knowledge from years before had known risks attached) and he nearly died from sepsis afterwards ffs. He's such a beautiful person and seems to suffer every piece of bad luck that medical science has to offer :(

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Eli's avatar

It's time to eat healthy like our lives depend on it...

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Charlotte's avatar

I’m speechless- how unbelievable. How is your mom doing?

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Janet's avatar

Happened to my sister after her first shot. Being treated for a slower cancer but CHF ramped up in a matter of days—a common occurrence with cancer that eventually shuts everything down. She was her old self on a Monday. Unresponsive on Tuesday and dead on Saturday. Pfizer murdered her.

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Charlotte's avatar

I’m so sorry Janet, that’s awful. Horrible. This whole push of the jabs on those with active cancer is driving me mad, how can they do it?

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MsDemeanor's avatar

What's sad (and equally infuriating) is that even many veterinarians recommend against vaccinating a pet that is sick or recovering from illness.

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Janet's avatar

She was stable at that time before the shot.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I will assume you warned her not to take the shot ... or that someone did... and she ignored them.

My experience with warning people is they tell me to mind my own business ... then I am sure they say very nasty things behind my back.

They need to blame themselves just as much as Pfizer when things go sideways

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I was never in a position to warn others against the first jabs. But yes to boosters, live and especially on the net. As you note, the it usually received a chilly reception. You know what? If, after all the data that has come out, they lined up for #3 etc. they are beyond help; they deserve whatever is coming their way.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

I have witnessed ten turbo charged cancers amongst friends, neighbours. It has calmed down, however I am wondering if there will be another resurgence after the autumn covid booster jab efforts of the NHS.

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Eli's avatar

The turbo cancer may be in some part or perhaps even a large part, due to the repeated testing using swabs sterilized with highly carcinogenic ethylene oxide.

Probably in addition to the injections lowering defenses and then literally swabbing inside the body with swabs sterilized with this, quite literally, carcinogenic pesticide.

My personal theory.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Interesting theory.

There are also at least 2 other mechanisms by which these products can casue cancer, p53 suppression, and changes to PD-L1 (which signals to T cells, that identify and kill cancer cells).

Arkmedic covered 2 of the 3 (with links to the papers) in this article. He covers the PD-L1 paper first, then a separate paper describing a mechanism of immune tolerance (bad), and then after that he briefly explains the p53 paper.

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/philadelphia-2023

Ryan Cole had stated in an interview with Epoch Times that he believed that the use of pseudouridine (changes to the g quadruplexes, replacing uridine with the synthetic version) was leading to cancer as well, by somehow interfering with the toll like receptors. I will try to find the interview...

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shibumi's avatar

Regarding boosters... it seems kind of random in the US. In some places, you hear get your booster all the time. I recall a while back hearing some "gov official" saying you should have a booster every two months. And I've also heard they want to make it a once a year thing. You know, with your flu shot.

Flu/covid shot does tend to give you a stroke, but perhaps that's a feature to our betters.

There doesn't seem to be a coherent plan here. It's more like "oh crap, the peons aren't getting their shots and dying like they're supposed to."

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Gaby's avatar

It took me a while to tell this to a friend. She was out of cancer and she had covid later, then she got vaccinated and the cancer came back. I found the way to let her know and clear my conscience. Now is up to her if she get more booster or not. I think she believed me and was somehow an eye opener for her, but it’s the only thing I can do.

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Eli's avatar

It's a terrible situation because we can cause people to become depressed and/or more sick with the bad news (if they believe us).

Nonetheless, I think you did the right thing, the next shot is likely to cause more damage.

The leaked video from the Israeli Health Ministry independent inquiry found that side-effects were repeating with each shot ("rechallenge").

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Charlotte's avatar

I think a lot about what Eugyppius had said, that it was the first time that such a large group of highly intelligent people lined up to get an experimental shot. They convinced each other they were doing the right thing for a variety of reasons- maybe to protect themselves from getting cancer again was one of them- for many also their doctors told them to! Of course, others are annoying and only did it to “save humanity” and virtue signal, and then there are those who were mandated and did it to keep a roof over their heads and their children fed. I think the underlying reason why they took the jab is part of the key to seeing your chance of talking sense into them or not.

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Eli's avatar

Agree - there was a wide range of pressures applied to each community segment and for sure any deprogramming has to take into account the specific audience.

I'm part of the highly-religious Jewish crowd mostly without internet (I'm an outlier). Except for the elderly, they weren't scared in the slightest from Covid (having no access to social media and not seeing many sick on the ground) and simply got the shots because the top Rabbis instructed them - and even with the full knowledge that this might be an evil plot with 100% faith that as long as they are following G-d's instructions the poison would be nullified.

The bright side was, as long as I didn't get myself excommunicated (almost), the second the first two shots were over everyone took off their masks and went back to normal, even against government decrees. We did what the rabbis asked, its over, none of this "5% can still be infected" nonsense.

9 months later they wanted to vax the kids so the government cracked down and the school principles tried to make the kids put the masks back on while the teachers didn't have to wear them and I told them NO WAY - you've been braking the law until now, if you order my kids to put on masks I'm reporting you - and that was it, no masks... :)

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Sometimes that's all it takes with the illegal (and unconstitutional) mandates...standing up and challenging them. Or, threatening to contact whoever insures the school bonds with reporting/suing them.

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Eli's avatar

In Israel we don't have a constitution - everything the government ordered was 100% the law. It looks like the whole world is headed to another "just following orders" scenario. We see that most of the medical field failed the first test and sent people to their deaths with the protocols.

The other side is busy manuvering local and international law to ensure that law enforcement and the army literally will need to rebel to stay ethical (and in the meantime the youth are about to be "educated").

Situation looks grim - but yeah - if we can actually form communal groups we have a chance to resist.

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pobrecollie's avatar

Has anyone got some decent data on cancer rates and if they are spiking? I see a lot of anecdotes on sites like this, but can't find any hard data.

A colleague of my girlfriend came down with an aggressive leukemia. They are both neurologists, so got jabs early and probably boosted. Of course I suspect the vax, but I want to show her some hard data. She is still to wedded to the official narrative. (If anyone can show cases of MS going up that would be some killer information that she could verify for herself)

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Wesley B's avatar

View ethical skeptics many many cancer icd10 code charts on Twitter. It's a lot of hard data directly from the medical billing system.

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Eli's avatar

Cancer indicators, from a brief review of my compilations:

1. See the response I just got here:

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/is-geerts-prediction-of-a-deadlier/comment/12317965

2. While cancer isn't listed, the Israeli Health Ministry's survey post the first booster found significant exacerbation of existing conditions. See page 9 of the translation (which I made) - link to original Heb on the gov website there.

https://galileoisback.substack.com/p/translated-israeli-moh-survey-of

3. There is of course a very convincing and damning paper by Professor Goldman on his own case where the cancer even moved to the side of the body he injected with the booster:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.798095/full

4. Jessica - IgG4 and cancer - a mechanism of action for cancer relapse and onset

https://substack.com/redirect/2/eyJlIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9qZXNzaWNhci5zdWJzdGFjay5jb20vcC9pZ2c0LWFuZC1jYW5jZXItYS1tZWNoYW5pc20tb2YtYWN0aW9uP3Rva2VuPWV5SjFjMlZ5WDJsa0lqbzBNVGs0TmpNeU1Dd2ljRzl6ZEY5cFpDSTZPVE0zTURFeU1UWXNJbWxoZENJNk1UWTNNalF3TURVM055d2laWGh3SWpveE5qYzBPVGt5TlRjM0xDSnBjM01pT2lKd2RXSXROVEUyT0RrMklpd2ljM1ZpSWpvaWNHOXpkQzF5WldGamRHbHZiaUo5Li1zVXlIZFBtZHYyLUhFOW5CQTgxUy1jMXlVNTFKOHlSSGJia2YtOGJRUTgiLCJwIjo5MzcwMTIxNiwicyI6NTE2ODk2LCJmIjp0cnVlLCJ1Ijo0MTk4NjMyMCwiaWF0IjoxNjcyNDAwNTc3LCJleHAiOjE2NzQ5OTI1NzcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0wIiwic3ViIjoibGluay1yZWRpcmVjdCJ9.kpqRgisU3bySO0LsvCZqIyGktsuAAk80x-5lSNDXmoA?

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Charlotte's avatar

Wesley and Eli posted some great stuff. If you want a study about those with the BRCA 1 and 2 gene being more likely to get the cancers post vax- Arkmedic has a substack article called Welcome to Gilead with the study included. Harrowing stuff.

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Gaby's avatar

I understand how we all at some point believed the narrative but after some months is impossible not to see that something is wrong just using common sense. You don’t even have to be super smart or have all the data to figure it out. And still people decide to believe what now is nonsense and indefensible lies, I can believe how deeply is the brainwashing

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Fast Eddy's avatar

In the same boat -- I say nothing --- doesn't matter as it's too late already... and they'd never change course anyway.

Leave them die

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Dee's meow's avatar

Is it possible to show them some facts that are on a good number of substacks?

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Eli's avatar

I think substacks are an overload of information and not official enough for someone still holding to official government narratives.

My personal theory is to lob one or two grenades and then await a reaction to see where it can go - the easiest being the Cleveland clinic chart - Fig. 2 - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full

And the summary of all the countries now discontinuing booster shots for <50 (Denmark, Sweden, now UK, Florida - who actually cited side-effects as the cause).

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Credenda's avatar

Eli, that paper’s conclusion was that the bivalent vaccine afforded “modest protection” against Covid-19 . Not sure this is something I’d use to argue against them. However I didn’t see the chart, I just read the study conclusion since I’m in a hurry to get to church.

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Eli's avatar

They always end with a sentence supporting the vaccines - the point is that the bivalent had not been around long enough for the effect to wane. (besides 30% is a failing score for a vaccine) but for all other shots you are in long term problems with a damaged immune system.

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Mystic William's avatar

Depending upon how it is written 30% is not 30% of people are helped. It means 70% are worse off having had it.

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miker's avatar

My neighbor (Norwegian)his best friends wife 42 dropped dead of a stroke..full vaxxed not sure about covid guessing yes. Question has to be split into vax/un and then see who is dying. So far i am un so is my family. I have been sick 3 times 3/20 1/21 6/22. Wife and son only 3/20. I have just swum 150k meter in 52 days and going for 240k by end of feb to finish my clubs polar bear contest.. so I think people have to also keep track of underling health -none or some or a lot. I talk with a good friend in port Elizabeth SA everyday..he said all is ok covid not even in the news. My other neighbor is Aussie (both him and her)and they said many dying or heart/strokes. So what's real and what's not ???his year we are going to find out.

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Steghorn21's avatar

"This year we're going to find out". Indeed. We all sense that 2023 is going to be a very interesting year.

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Tim's avatar

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out how it is all the fault of the unvaccinated?

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Mystic William's avatar

If we had stopped it in its tracks by being vaxed it would have been over. If we knew something why did we keep it to ourselves. We were selfish and foolish and we are okay. They did it right and were selfless and they’re hurt. How is that fair? When I hear some other reason to be angry at us I’ll let you know.

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JMJ's avatar

Im sure they will blame us. Unfortunately there are still many ignorant people regurgitating what they hear on MSM.

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shasta's avatar

Leave us alone. We have enough dealing with another winter of death and disease. XD.

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Mystic William's avatar

How many times did you die last winter? And now year two of dying.

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Mystic William's avatar

They make these stupid statements and no one calls them on it.

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Delphi Pilgrim's avatar

Degraded immune defense among the heavily vaccinated seems very apparent. However, just checked the Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people on Data Explorer for Australia and there has been a sharp spike in deaths over the past couple of weeks, which could signal something else at play.

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Shelagh Anne Shackleton's avatar

I think it is vaccine induced .So there is an autoimmune /hypersensitivity reponse here ,that worsens with each exposure/ COVID injection.

The spike is the most toxic part of the virus.It was never a good idea to inject it into the human body

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LaMaisonGelat's avatar

Even worse, the body was instructed to become a bio-reactor to produce the toxin... Spike isn't injected, the body produces it... Until when, how much? We're finding out...

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Martha72's avatar

The mRNA in the vax is different from what is in the virus, and it was designed and prepared to be very enduring so that as long as the mRNA is present which could be forever, the mRNA continues to make your body produce billions of spike proteins, way, way more than you would ever make just from having the illness of Covid. The vax produces billions of spike protein particles, and you just keep making it.

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skintnick's avatar

This is the pseudouridine effect described above.

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Nathan's avatar

Seen the research on ivermectin blocking the red blood cell agglutination caused by spike protein. Clots Could be what’s causing the deaths so possible cure?

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Greg K's avatar

Clots are just one of the effects of the spike protein. Ivermectin may reduce the number of excess deaths (a bit, somewhat, a lot?) but won't be a cure all

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Nathan's avatar

Yep but at least it may reduce some harmful effects. Better to play Russian roulette with 1 bullet than 3 or 4 or even better not at all!

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Martha72's avatar

FLCCC.net has a protocol to reduce the amount of spike protein in the body. Ivermectin is one part of that. Intermittent fasting is another. The FLCCC physicians have their protocol "I-Recover Vaccine Injury" at https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover/ They have more than one document. Their longest one is https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-Protocol.pdf which gives lists of supplements, meds and things to do, with some detailed explanations. One thing is to take Aspirin 81 mg. per day which is the child-size dose, the little orange tablets. Aspirin is known to help rid the body of spike protein. Since after the vax your body continues to make spike protein, I would expect one has to continue to take aspirin long term. They also say Ivermectin either 0.2 mg/kg or 0.3 mg./ kg, daily. It doesn't say "daily for two weeks" or like that, it just says daily on their current protocol, which makes sense since your body is busy all day every day making more spikes. The things that are suggested in the protocol will reduce the amount of spike protein in the body and can probably mitigate many of the otherwise harmful effects. However - from time to time one reads about prion disease from the shots, and if one picks up some prions in the shot, nobody knows anything that can be done in that case. Death usally comes in a few weeks according to a new paper. This was discussed in a blog post by attorney Jeff Childrens in his substack, Coffee and Covid here https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/prion-shells-tuesday-january-31-2023 His post gives the link to a newly published research study on prion disease in vaxxed people, published in mid-Jan. 2023. It doesn't seem like everyone is getting prion disease (mad cow) but there are known cases where it has followed very quickly after vax. Very quick onset and very rapidly fatal.

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Janet's avatar

A friend now has a rare agglutination immune disease. Boosted to her ears.

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Shelagh Anne Shackleton's avatar

Sorry to hear that.I recommend the FLCCC alliance protocols and doctors to help her.

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Shelagh Anne Shackleton's avatar

Ivermectin helps a lot of people whether suffering from COVID 19 virus infection or vaccine induced injury.It binds the spike

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

Thanks from a fellow Aussie for flagging this here. I will now be doing my own research!

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Martha72's avatar

The FLCCC physicians have their protocol "I-Recover Vaccine Injury" at https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover/ They have more than one document. Their longest one is https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-Protocol.pdf which gives lists of supplements, meds and things to do, with some detailed explanations. One thing is to take Aspirin 81 mg. per day which is the child-size dose, the little orange tablets. Aspirin is known to help rid the body of spike protein. Even if you can't get Ivermectin, there are many things that will help, aspirin being one of several.

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Bill Vinyard's avatar

Same thought occured to me . . .also supported by quite a few other analysts here in substack. OAS and repeated vax in large pcnt of pop sets the highly vaxed up for bad outcome . . .

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Steghorn21's avatar

That seems to be a reasonable assumption. Recent studies have shown that the jabs have moved from causing myocarditis and blood clots, and ADE to a disturbing third level: attacking the body's defenses that help us fight off cancers and other dangerous diseases. Very worrying.

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Martha72's avatar

I just read this week that spike protein can turn on cancer genes and turn off a gene that would otherwise help prevent cancer.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Otherwise known as VAIDS.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

An apposite term: Assuming SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab, according to some who have looked at its sequence, In addition to that mysterious furin cleavage site, something not found in related wild viruses, has multiple inserts that are claimed to be HIV code. https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/how-to-blast-your-way-to-the-truth

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Early on Luc Montagnier insisted this was man made -- as did an Indian outfit that later retracted.

Montagnier suggested the Indians had been pressured - he could not be pressured cuz he was on his last legs and was beyond caring what anyone did to him

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Martha72's avatar

My understanding is, that is correct. There is published research published in 2008 in which Dr Shi (Wuhan) describes taking a harmless bat corona virus that would not enter a human cell, and altering it so that it would enter human cells at the ACE2 receptor. In describing her work, she says that she combined a a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with the chosen corona virus. This is the article. JOURNAL OF VIROLOGY, Feb. 2008, p. 1899–1907 Vol. 82, No. 4 0022-538X/08/$08.000 doi:10.1128/JVI.01085-07 Copyright © 2008, American Society for Microbiology. https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/82/4/1899.full.pdf

I am not a virologist and I can't say that I understand every bit of this article. It says that Shi took two different corona viruses, the SARS virus that did cause human infection, and this newly found "Sars-Like" corona virus from the horseshoe bat and combined these making a chimera that would then enter human cells. The key thing seems to have been that the spike protein from the original SARS was added to the horsehoe bat corona virus and that was the key thing to let the virus into human cells. But it also says they "prepared" an HIV pseudovirus and that was somehow part of the mix, and HIV genetic material was also included. The 208 virus was not the virus that got leaked or released - presumably they continued working on it and refining it for another decade or so, but this paper documents gain of function - the virus from the horseshoe bat gained the function of entering human cells - and it included HIV genetic material apparently. No doubt they had plenty of time to continue working on both the virus and the vaccine to get them perfected to what we are dealing with today. Some say the vax is the bioweapon, and the virus was the excuse to make the vax, and very likely they were done at the same time, or at any rate, the virus was created with the vax in mind. Everything they wanted to do to us was carefully planned. There was nothing accidental about this.

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Allen's avatar

The urgent message that we must take from these past two years is that we are under sustained psychological warfare and have been for quite some time.

Invisible menace has the potential to be more terrifying than violence as it can last longer- you can draw it out for a long time- even an eternity- the thing you can’t see. Good story tellers understand this- Hitchcock understood this.

The psychos running the Bio-Security State know this. This is why the perpetuation of the invisible virus that can strike anyone at any time is so useful as a control mechanism. The catapulting of GoF and "Covid" variants and on and on is part of this Psyop. Those who perpetuate these fabrications are part of the problem, knowingly or not, and are doing the work for the Bio-security State by maintaining and heightening the fear mechanisms.

People who have fallen for this manufactured terror are desperate for explanations and heroes and “bombshell reports” right now.

They want something simple and not too far afield that can explain it all away.

Start talking about global operations, conditional UBI, programmable CBDCs, digital slavery, mass surveillance rolled into the world via an endless series of manufactured crises and it’s all too much.

“It’s just a virus and some bad actors” say the public. “A bioweapon that needs to be contained next time” say the subverted Covid oppositional actors.

Much easier to accept simple lies than the harsh truths of global tyranny.

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Joe Meccia's avatar

In addition, not only weakening the immune system, but actually changing the DNA structure of the original human. Now we actually may have on this Earth now different variants of human beings; the OE (original equipment) human and the GA (genetically altered) human. If you look at it like computer system, it may be like comparing a Windows OS (operating system) to a Mac OS. Yes, both are computers and both ultimately operate to get to similar results, yet you cannot operate programs from one system to the other without some kind of interface. I know what I just said is basic to many of us, but also many are NOT aware of this possibility. Medical intervention on a OE human will most likely not work on an evolving

(devolving?) GA human. To me, that looks like the course that we are headed. Something unknown, untested (shots) enters the system, creates unknown secondary effects and continues to create more and more additional effects until the situation stabilizes. That is Nature. The 'so-called' experts of the 'pro narrative' have played 'Russian roulette' and to me, that is most likely intentional. " If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, Most likely it is a duck!"

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ArnoldF's avatar

Joe, if you are interested there is an outspoken pastor who just did a sermon on the DNA transformation as being the ultimate goal of the attack against mankind. His name is JD Faraq from Calvary Chapel Kaneohe. Satan's goal is to steal, kill and destroy as Jesus said.

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Joe Meccia's avatar

Thanks ArnoldF. I am aware of this Satanic goal and I will check him out as a brave pastor who DOES speak of the DNA transformation...

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Hannah W's avatar

Yes, that. Plus the known effect called VADE, vaccine-triggered antibody dependent enhancement.

If I understand VADE right, this turns the body's normal hostility against the enemy into collaboration - helping the virus protein get into cells instead of destroying it.

That would mean a 'fifth column' is undermining the body's immune system every single time it encounters a variant of coronavirus (either one of the 7 natural strains or a lab-tinkered one), AND ALSO every time it encounters a flu variant (3 types, each with their own variants).

How long the individual's immune system can hold up under that strain is probably variable, but I imagine it could take a year or two, until it gets hit one time too many with (what used to be) a relatively mild illness.

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ArnoldF's avatar

Reminds me of the scene in StarWars 2 where Darth Vadar attacks Luke with things detaching from the wall and being hurled at him--you can only defend yourself so long before you are overwhelmed with incoming. And the unfortunate thing is most people are weak in their vitamins and mineral uptake which makes it a loosing proposition.

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pobrecollie's avatar

We could easily find this out by monitoring similar groups of vaxxed and unvaxxed. Instead we get the opposite, trying to destroy the control group and completely ignoring problems in the experimental group.

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No One Knows's avatar

yes, and a damaged heart followed at some point by excess stress or exertion of some sort would /could increase the number of sudden deaths

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Jason's avatar

That seems very likely. Just 2 weeks ago a 7yo local girl caught something (flu, nobody knows) but she died suddenly the next day like her body couldn't fight it off. My friends wife is a school teacher and had this girl in her class. Now what's crazy is just yesterday another girl from the same class had Strep A which spread to her lungs. She's now in the ICU. It's like their bodies are unable to fight off other diseases now.

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No One Knows's avatar

sad, tragic, fauci and his su[[prting network killing children

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Mitch's avatar

The reality is, we don’t know for sure what is in the vaccines. We don’t know for sure what mRNA is coded… what mistakes are made in the coding (or intentionally done)… we don’t know for sure there isn’t some form of self-replicating or self-assembling nano-tech. So who knows. All we know for sure is the vaccines are dangerous, and the people who took them are borderline retarded.

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Andi Hofmann's avatar

I took it, Astra then pfi... so yes. I was borderline brain-washed by Gvt approved MSM eg. Kekulé and Drosten podcasts, and read many papers, feeling it gets a narrow escape between costs and benefits. After I turned away from MSM, my eyes opened wide and my jaws fell open, like Alice following into the rabbit hole. And I have to learn to “live in allowance”, as anything else will even enhance the level of violence and suffering. The game the white side has to play is so much more complicated than that of empathy deprived narcissistic psychopaths that seem to be running the world, vigorously destroying the last remnants of their karma.

I also discovered that spirituality is directly affecting realities… but that is another story and not yet sorted out…

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Mitch's avatar

Good for you, man. That is some serious growth, and really is a silver lining to all of this. It has shone a light on the things that were previously hiding in the dark, and you're forever changed now... for the better, in a big way! I think it is even harder for people who bought the narrative and made the emotional investment in getting the vaccine... because it requires admitting you were wrong. Not a lot of people are good at that, evidently, and especially in the context of being attacked with relentless 5th Gen Psychological Warfare ops. Pat yourself on the back. I'm sure you already have, but do it again. Not a small thing, and I think you are right re the spiritual side of things. This game runs deeper, and will have real consequences on levels we aren't aware of or able to comprehend right now.

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Andi Hofmann's avatar

They do. But specifically, they do this just against CoV.

- tolerance like Desensitisation IG4 high viral load no symptoms perfect spreader, and constant 20% LHCS (unvaccinated 1/30ths of this)

- antigenic sin: I had CoV in spring 22, NO antibodies though Inhad some fever and felt it was entering my body (I reluctantly treated because Inneeded a positive test to get PCR to avoid 3rd shot. Crazy reasoning I know. Only after 3 DAYS after onset of symptoms the darn RAG Test went positive).

RESULT: ZERO nucleocapsid antibodies. 50k against vaccinal spike.

I had 2 shots, one astra one pfizer in spring 21.

- ADE-D as of May ‘22, Omicron BA.4.

This is the last month of data by vaccination status GB ONS published. See

https://expose-news.com/2022/08/25/1-in-every-73-covid-19-vaccinated-people-dead/

Only look at the “per 100k inhabitants” charts.

Try getting the data from ONS and play with it.

We need wastewater PCR on all kinds of pathogens by vaccination status of the area the water stems frim, calibrated by representative single persons measurement on illness and vaccination status.

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Bartram's avatar

There does appear to be an increase in non-covid infections in the data. I'm preparing an article that discusses this increased risk, amongst other issues.

There certainly appears to be an increase in morbidity in the post-vaccine period. It is very concerning.

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D F Barr's avatar

Wife is a nurse at the hospital. Her floor receives all of the “vid positive” patients. The other day there were none. But there is an increase in cancer patients on the floor. Now training all nurses in the administration of chemo. Not just the cancer nurses anymore. There isn’t a more deadly vid out there now, but the jabs are doing their damage in other ways

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Tim's avatar

Chemo is lucrative, pharma and the medics will be pleased.

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ArnoldF's avatar

The perpetrator of the vxx is of their father, the Devil. The perpetrator of the vxx truly hates mankind. They need to put on trial and hung til dead. All those useful idiots who enabled this to occur need to be put on trial for complicity to wage war against mankind and God and His creation.

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Bird's avatar

She would probably enjoy reading DoorlessCarp's posts on cancer and spike:

https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/archive?sort=search&search=carcinogenesis

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Sally Gould's avatar

For Bird and Martha-

The brilliant Doorless Carp included this chilling breast cancer study:

https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/p/spike-protein-inc-vax-induced-immunodeficiency-8ca/com

Spike protein binds with ACE2, depletes ACE2, can lead to anti-ACE2 antibodies, promotes ANGII which stimulates microvascular proliferation (angiogenesis)...and carcinogenesis/metastasis.

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Marten's avatar

Yup, and Fenbendazole cure cancer !!!!

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Scampster's avatar

Know a reliable site to research this more?

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Ivermectin too when added into cancer treatment....even per NIH's own website.

I only recently began reading/hearing about fenbendazole...most likely due to being suppressed in the search engines.

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Marten's avatar

Fenben is superior to Ivermectin, for "treating" cancer, don't get me wrong !!!!

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MsDemeanor's avatar

That's what I've been hearing/reading in bits and pieces. Amazing what has been hidden in plain sight for awhile now. And it's also relatively easy (and inexpensive) to procure too.

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Martha72's avatar

Thank you for posting this link.

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Martha72's avatar

The shots cause your body to produce billions of spike proteins, much more than the virus would ever produce. Spike protein can turn on cancer genes and turn off immune genes that would otherwise have protected.

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Glenda's avatar

See Jessica Rose on IgG4 and cancer

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

D F Barr thank you for that info ... the insiders need to spill the beans as much as they can .

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Mystic William's avatar

The vax causes the immune system to crater. A normal flu or cold or any other stressor can then kill someone. Every single person dying in an old folks home dies with a bug or two in them. The same bug in a healthy twenty year old would be sloughed off instantly but can’t be in a 90 year old with no immune system. Simple flus killed AIDS patients in the 80s. The deadly flu was only deadly because there wasn’t an immune system to respond. The logical thought to me is the immune systems have been devastated. Somewhere in your article you say excess deaths aren’t happening in unvaxed areas. If the Geert deadly variant is around it should show up everywhere. There is too much travel everywhere now. Perhaps it shows up a bit later in an unvaxed area. But it shouldn’t be significantly different over time. Yet it seems to be.

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Ann K.'s avatar

And the bug can’t be sloughed off by an 18-year-old with no immune system. I think you’re right about the bigger picture.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

I'm really not sure about this. I think the vaccines are causing delayed effects. Just in the past couple of weeks two vaccinated people I know, one my husband, were diagnosed with very elevated hypertension. In the case of my husband it was at emergency levels such that the doctor would not permit him to drive home as he could have died at any moment. We believe it must have been the shot because he did not have hypertension prior. The other lady thought hers couldn't be connected to the vaccine as it was too long ago, but I disagree. Yet another vaxxed friend has been having strange vision issues recently, yet another atrial fibrillation. These poison shot effects are not limited in their scope unfortunately.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I hope your husband gets well soon. Covid vaccines do all sorts of damage!

The same exact thing happened to two of my relatives, crazy hypertension not responding to drugs. It somehow went away. Happened at about same time too around October or so.

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Charlotte's avatar

Do you think the hypertension could be due to undiagnosed micro clots in the blood? Just thinking out loud.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211004104134.htm

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Just a Clinician's avatar

Multiple mechanisms are possible. Recall that ACE2 is part of the (highly complex) renin-angiotensin system that plays a hand in blood pressure control - and spike binds to ACE2. But also, endothelial dysfunction (inside layer of blood vessels) occurs from vax.

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Charlotte's avatar

I was just thinking that for high blood pressure they prescribe diuretics and that could be dangerous if it’s actually caused by something else...

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MsDemeanor's avatar

It's happening to those exposed to vax shedders as well. My BP jumped crazy high after exposure and long term illness effects from my vaxxed folks.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Interesting. Shedding seems very implausible to me but too many people report it to discount it. Someone should do a study on it.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

I keep hearing more and more reporting having reactions when in close proximity of those vaxxed, especially those more recently vaxxed.

Some Dr's had already reported spike protein can affect/pass thru some body fluids...nursing mothers, sperm, blood etc. Stands to reason that it's possible thru sweat or vapor when you exhale as well.

Would love to see a lot more looked into because this is turning into a nightmare very quickly now.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

It certainly is. I haven't experienced the shedding phenomenon but the roll call of dead and injured I know is staggering. Honestly makes me afraid for what lies ahead.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

If they don't stop these jabs soon, I fear we will see it get a lot worse.

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Mystic William's avatar

I’ve heard of people being sick-ish from being around recently vaxed. From many people. I haven’t experienced that myself. I’ve been around lots of recent vaxed. I do know a lot of women who absolutely won’t date a vaxed man. 100%. No germy spermies being squirted into them.

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Kim Nari's avatar

Sounds like what my mother's been going through recently.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Thankful to hear it went away. He got only one shot of Moderna in July 2021 and it manifested now in Jan 2023 as transient vision loss in one eye, but we think it started after the shot based on other symptoms.

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JohnG's avatar

A new release perhaps?

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KATHAZEL's avatar

Agree. A lady I know suffered from terrible vertigo and dizziness after two Pfizer shots. She recovered after several weeks but months later (no booster shots at all) the symptoms returned as badly as ever. Both my children received vaccinations and they have both had recurrent illness since. These injections are definitely causing compromise in people's general immunity, and this is opening the door for other pathogens and chronic disease further down the line.

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Anne-Lise H's avatar

Check out WMC Research his cure posts. Bromelian and NAC are good at getting rid of spike proteins that are lingering.

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Wesley B's avatar

One of my female friends with 2 Pfizers had zero symptoms and I thought she'd dodged it with a blank or improperly temperature controlled one...but last weekend she passed out unexpected and when she woke up had tightness in her chest and arm tingling. The doctors diagnosed it as just a vegus nerve impingement (temporarily) and assured her it is common among early 40s women. She's 41 and in great shape with a healthy bmi. Non drinker, non cigarette smoker.

Her vaccine #1 I think was April 21 and number two maybe June 21....

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Mystic William's avatar

Oh yes, very common. Totally. Never heard of it before now, but totally common. A woman I know was having dinner in a restaurant. A glass of water in front of her. She did a face plant into her dinner. No warning. Instant blackout. ER said she was dehydrated. While eating and drinking? They said it’s quite common.

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Wesley B's avatar

That's how I felt when I heard of that diagnosis but it seemed to reassure her...

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Mystic William's avatar

The problem with that is, assuming it’s a vax injury, then there might be things she can do IF she works on it. She has a major health injury and her doctors are telling her to ignore it. In fact she might be able to fix herself if she stops listening to doctors and takes matters into her own hands.

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Cómo?

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Ah muchas gracias, lo investigaré.

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ForkInSocket's avatar

Regarding timing of vaccine side effects, some analysis presented by Steve kirsch observed high rates of death 5 or 6 months after a dose, in addition to right away. The delayed group was a larger number but more diffuse in time.

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David 1260's avatar

There are two prominent modes of vaccine death: Immediate (within 2 weeks of injection) and delayed by 4-5 months (massive clotting). That would change the relationship between the "vaccines" administered and the excess deaths. Here's the article:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/this-one-graph-tells-you-everything

I found another Kirsch paper that might be relevant to this inquiry:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/sharp-increases-in-all-cause-mortality

I also found Andreas' review of Geert:

https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/actually-how-wrong-was-geert-vanden

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Mystic William's avatar

Fauci actually said vax side effects can show up years later. We could not even remotely be seeing the worst effects. Cancers grow slowly usually.

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TSMe's avatar

Like having the hangman telling the soon to be hanged, "This could cause some discomfort around the neck."

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Mystic William's avatar

‘If a persistent ring like rash appears around your neck tell your doctor’.

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ArnoldF's avatar

MW, I heard a broadcast recently of a Canadian Dr Hoffe after vxx and boosted patient, that a tumor grew 10CM within either several months or half a year. Recommend listening to him. Brilliant guy attacked by the authorities.

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Mystic William's avatar

Yeah. He was shocked at the government response. He was the doc for a contained community of 900. He had within a very short period of time 9 significant impairments and/or deaths following the rollout. He was recording the info. He wrote the PHO and the Health Minister. Their response was to yank his license. He kept up his research and what a shame.../his lab burned to the ground. He lost all his info.

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Mystic William's avatar

I’m guessing this has tripled now. Probably thirty or more significant problems.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Nice of him to tell us!

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SEF's avatar

This is EXACTLY what the Pfizer and Moderna "gold standard" randomized clinical trials both showed. Excess deaths in the vaccine groups showed up between 1 and 6 months post-vax, but none were seen at 1 month post-vax

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ForkInSocket's avatar

Surely the timing of the end of the trial is pure coincidence

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Mystic William's avatar

I remember a commercial for a slow car. ‘Watch our Epic Envoy beat The Green Monster in a drag race’. The Green Monster held the world land speed record at the time. The lights changed at the drag strip, the Epic took off, and the Monster wound up it’s engine and began slowly inching forward. It took ten seconds for it to move and then it shot out like a sling shot flying past the little

Car. The Announcer said ‘and there you see it. The Epic beats the Green Monster in an....87 yard drag race!’ Same idea. ‘When did they start dying?’ ‘Uh 45 days.’ ‘Okay, no worries then. We cut off the research at 44 days’.

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SEF's avatar

Exactly, it's pure coincidence that they unblinded the trials RIGHT AFTER the excess vaccine deaths began showing up

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ForkInSocket's avatar

Yes and I think due to rolling enrollment at the start, the "6 month" duration was actually a bit shorter for many participants. It's completely possible they saw the writing on the wall and took action

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SEF's avatar

You are spot on, the median was somewhere between 4-5 months IIRC, but they published it as "Six Month Safety"...

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TSMe's avatar

Yes. And, perhaps there's a third, forth and fifth chronological surge to come.

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Wesley B's avatar

If you view, in a windows web betide by clicking preview channel https://t.me/covidbc you'll find there's another huge spike at 15 to 18 months that seems to be those suited suddenly heart attacks and cancers.... so there might be a second spike at a year and a half it seems. These will never be associated despite healthy 18-40 year old dropping ...

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ForkInSocket's avatar

That would not be surprising, although there are many other factors that would need to accounted for, including further boosters and covid cases. For example the research on IGg4 issues shows that it is affected by time post shot, additional shots, and also by covid infection.

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lymond's avatar

I think there's another option. Dr McCollough mentioned quite a while ago, when discussing "mild myocarditis", that there was a study pre-pandemic that showed that such diagnoses led to a 50% mortality rate within 5 years. If that's so, then we could be seeing lagging deaths due to the shots/boosters for years to come. Perhaps illness / covid (or the stress of such) could put the heart more at risk, dunno.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yes, and I buy it, but what explains "waves" of excess mortality? Going up and down like infections do?

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Paul's avatar

Waves of other infections, eg flu, that stress the heart with sub-clinical myocarditis.

Just speculating.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Waves of boosters seems plausible to me.

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lymond's avatar

Sorry, wasn't clear in my last sentence. My wild guess is that the infections may put the heart under stress in some manner that makes the existing heart damage fatal. If it's correlated with the covid infection waves, perhaps spike protein levels have something to do with it.

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A Dizzle's avatar

That is a very plausible theory. Too many vaxed may be suffering with myocarditis due to the medical profession being absolutely rendered useless by their greed and fear. I've heard many complain of chest tightness but whom refuse to see a doctor as they didn't trust them anymore.

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Chiadrum's avatar

My very healthy buddy clearly has it, was jabbed AFTER easily recovering from the original strain. I showed him the Kyle Warner story since we are both avid mountain bikers. He laughed it off. I pray every day that he doesn’t become a statistic. And he raged against the FDA after watching Dopesick on Hulu. You can’t make this stuff up. His daughter needed emergency surgery for an aggressive brain tumor as well. And he sees nothing. Wasn’t sure about the booster the last time we spoke. He thinks I’m insane so I can’t say much.

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Paul's avatar

This truly is natural selection in action.,

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MsDemeanor's avatar

And the 'trust' issue is well justified. Many doctors can't (or won't) initially see this as a heart issue. Many are blowing off the increased visits of patients complaining of chest issues as simply stress or anxiety related.

A gentleman from Scotland, I think (can't remember his name right off), has a video diary of his journey over the past year after being left with disabling heart issues. He could no longer work or even function normally with simple daily activities. He kept getting jerked around the healthcare system, while the medical expenses kept piling up, until one of the noted anti-vax Dr's caught wind of it. He is now getting the much needed long overdue treatment he needed (for issues that included myocarditis)...at no cost to him.

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Penny North's avatar

I know an ICU nurse that reports current beds are filled with Influenza A. They seem to be treating them with a similar protocol that CV was treated with. It may be the protocol causing death in some cases. The repeated CV jabs definitely ruin the immune system enabling otherwise non life threatening illnesses to be deadly. Just my opinion.

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Penelope Powell's avatar

Seasonal peaks, winter being worse of course. Plus perhaps the timing of repeat doses. I find it difficult to understand FOR SURE that one can actually get covid twice.

I find I've a lot of questions still. I wonder-- is there any natural or manmade variance in our electromagnetic environment? Increased EMF exposure makes all sorts of bacterial & fungal pathogens produce more potent toxins. Also, increased EMF effects calcium channels, a cardiac stressor.

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Almost no one is really seriously looking at EMF. But Dr. Martin Pall and others have warned of the toxic effects it would have in the body. An environmental toxin would explain people getting sick multiple times, vaccinated or not. What they are looking at as evidence of “virus” might be the cellular debris left behind after exposure. This may be a “virus” if you look at the root of that word - “toxin/poison.” If Covid symptoms are actually EMF symptoms, vaccinating would be pointless (and harmful) because you are essentially adding instructions for the body to recognize and focus on very specific parts of the proteins that are expressed by cells upon cell death, and not giving the immune system freedom to recognize the toxin the way it’s designed to. You are also loading the body up with even more spike protein fragments. So, there are a few things to think about here. 1. Is viral theory correct? 2. Why aren’t we seriously looking into the effects of 5g rollout, which correlate well with the geographic spread of the disease. 3. The damage from EMF, (initial and ongoing exposures being purged from the body) can explain excess deaths, outside of vaccines only. 4. Vaccines would weaken the body and turn off signals that prevent tumors, so of course they could explain excess mortality as well, but I agree with Igor, not fully, devastating as they are. 5. Focus on the greed of Pfizer and others is more than evident as recently made clearer than ever in the Project Veritas video. But think if this: if the govt is really compromised and corporations have full regulatory capture, then that would go for telecommunications as well. Which leads to my final thought...6. As much of a “cash cow” Covid vaccines are for the medical/pharmaceutical industry, think about how much money is at stake with 5g infrastructure and use. And then think about collusion between these industries. At the highest levels, they are aware the EMF will harm the body. They decide that creates the perfect opportunity to vaccinate on a scale never seen before, thinking it will offset the effects of EMF, (which most people will still be looking at as a “virus” including those in medicine). All the while, viral theory is wrong in the first place. Scientists are surprised on the whole that the vaccines aren’t working. But the reason is that this was never a virus. The only answer is to shut down 5g.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

The new PV video is certainly making an impact FAR greater than anticipated and compared to others they have done...over 18 million views before YouTube yanked it about a day later. That is HUGE! It means more are starting to sit in and pay attention. And Pfizer is NOT happy about that!

But, it also means we need to stay alert to what they might be trying to do to us next.

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Penny North's avatar

Yes sir! Go look up the initial world CV outbreaks map and compare to 5G install world maps.

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EO 9066's avatar

Interesting re calcium channels

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Paul's avatar

I've had it twice, definitely, and probably once more. First time was bad (Feb 2020, the original strain), the others no big deal.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

If the heart is already damaged by the jabs, every single infection following the jabs will potentially add to the damage until the heart can no longer function. The deaths would, if I am correct, follow the infection waves. Sound simplistic but I would argue that Occam's razor is the way to interpret the data.

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Wesley B's avatar

What about the widower effect? When one spouse goes, the other can quickly join. Likewise for close siblings. Death causes a lot of grief and stress. I wonder if that might push people over the edge physically creating a kind of negative forward feedback loop. To the next round is kicked off by a new variant, new booster campaign or even new rsv/flu season hitting weakened immune systems.

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Susie AH's avatar

I think it is well known that the elderly do not get much benefit from other vaccines such as flu. The elderly people here in the UK are getting Covid boosters, pneumonia, shingles and flu vaxxes. The best of vaccines cause a disturbance in the immune system, they are designed that way, that’s what adjuvants do. These people are on a vaccine roller coaster.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

The elderly, immune compromised, etc. are at a double disadvantage. Their immune system does not respond as strongly to the vaccine, so (I guess) doesn't provide as good resistance if and when the bug comes calling. And I'd suspect they are at greater risk of adverse effects of the vaccine. Make that triple disadvantage.

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CMCM's avatar

They're advertising a double strength flu shot for people over 60. No telling what that might do to muck things up.

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Tony's avatar

The weather usually has an impact on seasonal deaths as well. Could be a factor

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Witzbold's avatar

Yes, Eugyppius has written a number of posts about viral interference and Hope-Simpson's theory of seasonality.

I addressed this in a post last week: Seasonality Shifts?

https://lostintranslations.substack.com/p/seasonality-shifts

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CecilRhodes's avatar

Could be just the type of injury and average life expectancy for said injury. All these folks took the jab in waves so why should waves not be in the jab injury pattern?

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JohnG's avatar

That's what I'm hoping is the case

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Suze Omniverse's avatar

Geo-engineering? As I've noticed they drop a lot at once, then stop for a while...Satellites?Have you seen how many there are now? 5G boosts? Maybe boosting up the Ghz every now and then.... Could be all of the above..

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Witzbold's avatar

I think you are on to something! Taking a closer look at the Euromo graphs, there may even be a periodicity or symmetry that is not apparent in pre-pandemic years (although there is normally a summer heat-induced mini bump around week 30 it is much less pronounced than in 2022):

2021: major winter wave peak week 48

2022: mini-waves peaks in weeks 5(?), 14, 29, 42

2022: major winter wave peak week 51

I came at this from a slightly different angle in my last post, "Seasonality Shifts?" because I noticed the winter deaths we have just experienced in Germany coincided with an unseasonally early appearance of the flu season.

https://lostintranslations.substack.com/p/seasonality-shifts

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Mystic William's avatar

Weather changes cause the bodies to shift their responses.

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Mystic William's avatar

There is also random distribution. Just a numbers thing. There is nothing inherently that says it should be evenly distributed deaths. Some times we might see even distribution followed by spikes. In addition some jurisdictions record deaths inaccurately. The recorder takes a week off, comes back to work and half last weeks deaths get recorded in this week.

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JohnG's avatar

Perhaps tied to the egg timer in people who've gotten damaged. Each got damaged at a different time. I guess we need to start looking at longer delayed responses to Covid waves, not just vaccine timing. Or, maybe a new release...

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shibumi's avatar

It would be interesting to have someone, I don't know, in the medical field, actually do studies about this sort of thing.

Too bad they're all to busy working on mRNA studies for hangnails and thin eyebrows.

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Mystic William's avatar

Get a Wall

street math wonk to do it.

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tugordie's avatar

Not in a manner that follows waves of COVID infections like Igor showed here

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Brett J Stevens's avatar

But at the right of the graph they are not following anything. This could be related to anything, including the scenario mentioned.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

But the excess deaths have been deemed not Covid- related, meaning not recent Covid anyway, so how does that connect to the deaths that happen during Covid waves?

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MsDemeanor's avatar

If you are asking about covid waves pre-vax rollout, remember flu deaths all but disappeared on the 2020 reports/graphs (likely from 2021 too because there were some unreported flu gaps). And they pretty much followed the same waves as previous years and what was being reported in the covid waves. So, in order to boost (scary) numbers, not only were they labeling 'with' covid to 'from' covid (eeeeeeverybody got a covid), all flu cases got dumped in that pile as well. This boosted the funding $$$ in addition to a rushed EUA and then scare/mandates into getting vaxxed.

They actually admitted at a press conference that all positive covid cases were included on the same list.

Now they've resumed flu reporting, with multiple vax boosters ongoing, and we're seeing excess deaths are far outpacing any previous years stats from pre-covid.

Hope that made sense.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

The myocarditis is caused by the spike protein in the jabs which effectively gets the immune system to attack the heart tissue. The virus also produces the spike protein so my guess would be that repeated infections are just adding to the damage done by the jabs until it becomes lethal. I do not want to be overly pessimistic but if one took the jabs, any infection after that could lead to the worst outcome possible. I pray I am wrong but I do recall many "experts" boasting that the jabs lead to more spike protein being generated in the body of the recipient than any virus infection could. In short, they were boasting about the fact that jabs could do more damage to your heart than the virus ever could, pure insanity!

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Max's avatar

It seems to be critically important to avoid (more) infections. I want to share another great possibility with you. Respiratory Infections like Covid may be prevented (up to 98% lower risk of cases) with oropharyngeal probiotics.

Please let your readers know about it.

Oropharyngeal Probiotic ENT-K12:

"A well-established first-line defense on oropharyngeal microbiome could be a promising strategy to protect individuals from respiratory tract infections including COVID-19. The most thoroughly studied oropharyngeal probiotic product which creates a stable upper respiratory tract microbiota capable of preventing upper respiratory tract infections was chosen to evaluate the safety and efficacy on reducing episodes of upper respiratory tract infections for COVID-19 healthcare workers. To our knowledge to date, this is the very first study describing the beneficial effects of oropharyngeal probiotic been administered by healthcare workers during the COVID-19 pandemic. In this randomized controlled trial, we provided the probiotics to frontline medical staff who work in the hospitals in Wuhan and had been in close contact with hospitalized COVID-19 patients for prophylactic use on a daily basis. Our finding suggests that oropharyngeal probiotic administration significantly reduced the incidence of respiratory tract infections by 64.8%, reduced the time experiencing respiratory tract infections and oral ulcer symptoms by 78%, shortened the days absent from work by 95.5%, and reduced the time under medication where there is no record of antibiotic and anti-viral drug intake in the probiotic group. Furthermore, medical staff treated with Bactoblis experienced sustained protection from respiratory tract infections since the 10th day of oropharyngeal probiotic administration resulting in an extremely low incidence rate of respiratory tract infections."

Wang Q, Lin X, Xiang X, Liu W, Fang Y, Chen H, Tang F, Guo H, Chen D, Hu X, Wu Q, Zhu B, Xia J. Oropharyngeal Probiotic ENT-K12 Prevents Respiratory Tract Infections Among Frontline Medical Staff Fighting Against COVID-19: A Pilot Study. Front Bioeng Biotechnol. 2021 Jun 24;9:646184.

Another oropharyngeal probiotic called Streptococcus salivarius K12 was also highly effective to prevent Covid (study from Italy). 98% lower risk of cases.

DI Pierro F, Colombo M. The administration of S. salivarius K12 to children may reduce the rate of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Minerva Med. 2021 Aug;112(4):514-516.

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Wesley B's avatar

Where does one obtain this? Is it in a spray format or ?...

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EO 9066's avatar

Blis probiotic on Amazon

Or oral health probiotics from Life Extension

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Wesley B's avatar

Thank you!

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Bailout Failure's avatar

Very intresting 👍️. Thx for sharing.

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Max Feng's avatar

I think the excess mortality will continue to rise as people's innate immune system is destroyed by the jabs, the vaxxed won't be able to fight off other virus and bacterial infections. My biggest fear is tuberculosis, watch carefully if we start seeing TB cases.

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Bird's avatar

That would be the biggest nightmare. To get rid of TB, someone needs 6 months of *isolated* treatment on multiple severe medicines – nobody follows the rule to self-isolate and no hospital has capacity to handle that + many people's bodies simply can't handle the heavy side effects so they just stop taking the meds. Causing: new antibiotic-resistant TB variants rapidly blooming on the world map: which govs never care to protect their populations by screening for during international air travel (except Japan – need a negative TB test to get a JP visa). This is genuinely a massive disaster waiting to happen because we simply do not have new antibiotics lined up.

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ArnoldF's avatar

Bird, sounds like the judgments coming on the world as bible prophecy speaks about as death, disease, pestilence and famine kill 1/4 of the globe's population. We seem clearly to moving towards this time. Do not take the allegiance mark from the coming anti-Christ beast system.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

🎯

🙏

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Penny North's avatar

Find a competent homeopathic doctor.

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EO 9066's avatar

TB is not as contagious as the flu?

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Bird's avatar

Ha! Don't you love "public health" garble: "Tuberculosis is NOT spread by: - sharing food or drink, - sharing toothbrushes, - kissing". Because everyone knows that a disease spread by aerosol droplets does not exist in your mouth. "This way to the slaughterhouse, folks, and everyone make sure to share your toothbrushes."

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Glenda's avatar

Yes. And we are inundated with thousands of illegal aliens dispersed throughout the country whose medical status and basic vaccine histories we do not know. There has been an uptick in treatment resistant TB already. This is not a matter of disrespect to these individuals, but a concern for safety to citizen of the USA.... my children and grandchildren especially.

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EO 9066's avatar

Good point

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TRM's avatar

"Months passed, and hopes appeared that Geert’s prediction was a mistake. (nobody wants excess deaths, right?)" - Even Geert hoped it wouldn't happen but when you put evolutionary pressure on a virus at some point you might get both infectivity and virulence going up.

I don't think that is what we are seeing yet. People with 3+ mRNA have the IgG4 trying to do the job of IgG3. They are bringing a knife to a gun fight. Anything viral will cause them huge issues. Anything latent in their system will come back to life. Without an immune system they are in a world of hurt.

There are probably a lot more issues we are just beginning to see.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yes, that is another possibility

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Charlotte's avatar

I’m also thinking- wow- we’ve had 2 straight years of high deaths and still no pull forward effect. Meaning, these high death rates are even worse than we can imagine....

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TRM's avatar

I was expecting to see some daylight below the line (5 Year Average) after Nov2020-Feb2021 due to the large die off in that 4 month period. ACM went back to the line but not below. Then from Aug2021-Feb2022 deaths were massive again. From Jun2022 onward we appear to be in a "slow burn" phase with 5-10% above the line but not the 20-40% of previous waves.

https://i.postimg.cc/284L0y69/ACM-vs-Vaccine-Status-2.png

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Charlotte's avatar

The scary thing is, this “slow burn” is burning through the healthy people now :(

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TRM's avatar

If this is a bio-weapon (and it sure appears to be one) we need to face the fact that it might be doing exactly what it was designed to. A delayed onset, slow kill bio-weapon to lower life expectancy by a couple of decades with dozens of causes (plausible deniability). A lot of young people would have to die as well to drop life expectancy.

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Bird's avatar

Throw in 44 motifs that cause the immune system to target the reproductive system, and make sure that children get doses of it every year.

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Just a Clinician's avatar

Not to mention those that don't even get born due to decreased fertility.

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JC's avatar

I clearly remember in the late 1980s reading news reports of fears that a bioweapon would be spread across the West as a prelude to war - yes, the Warsaw Pact were to be the cause.

The article told a story of the virus spreading slowly with people suffering an unknown flu-like minor infection which would appear to go away only to return a short time later. By the time doctors put two and two together hospitals would have begun to come overwhelmed and the infrastructure of Society in the West would have begun to break down.

With the hindsight of decades and the events of the last few years, when I think of the 1980's article now I - tin foil hat on - wonder whether it was a plant by our own intelligence services, aware of Western bio-labs own man-made toxins. It was, after all, published at the time of the AIDS / HIV hysteria.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

Not so 'tin foil hat' when looking at the worldwide picture as a whole.

Look at what's occurring in the US...people getting sick/disabled, inflation out of control, strategic oil reserves being depleted, sky high food prices and we are giving away so much money and our military equipment to Ukraine (on top of the billions worth left behind in Afghanistan)...all of these things combined weaken a once very strong world power. And other western/European countries facing the same. All while being overwhelmed by mass migration.

A total world collapse (with or without a ww3) is inevitable if it continues.

Then, right on cue, in strolls your 'new world order' without so much as a whimper from the remaining beaten survivors.

*removes and burns tin foil hat and gets ready to rumble!*

Edit to add: I just got alert that yet another huge poultry barn just went up in flames.

I've also received word recently of possible tampering of certain brands (of known big name companies) of chicken egg layer feed. Numerous reports of whole flocks not laying eggs for months. Replace it with regular whole grain/scratch feed (organic if possible or from your local mill sourced from local farners) and let them free range if possible. Egg laying usually returns within a few weeks to a couple months.

The attack on our food sources is no conspiracy!

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ArnoldF's avatar

So why is it that the west refuses to believe that what we could be witnessing could be a direct attack on the west from Chinese Communists in this entire Covid plandemic and the subsequent vxx? They own the medical-industrial complex internationally and could easily have seeded the viral vaccine DNA with a bioweapon formula worked out years back that stupid Pfizer and the operation warp speed institutions recklessly decided to implement without actually looking at the details of the DNA sequence details..."we have to implement this now". Idiots all.

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Brena M.'s avatar

I recall Geert stating that only the vaccinated would be at risk of a deadlier variant due to the priming. At this point, we will never know the answers. Anecdotally, I do not know any unvax people who are struggling with repeat infections, long covid, much less dying suddenly. Regardless, I think it is essential that we consider everything as a contributing factor. ADE is highly probable.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I know two repeat infected unvaxed persons, and many more vaxed

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

One I know who is unvaxxed was on workers compensation for workplace bullying and feeling very low when she caught covid at the beginning of last year followed by a repeat infection 3 weeks after recovery. She's since had long covid that she describes as like someone sitting on her chest combined with extreme fatigue and "brain fog," difficulty remaining focused and forgetfulness. There is some research linking pre-existing depression to increased risk of long covid. Walter M Chesnut at WMC Research substack notes that long covid appears to be identical to cancer cachexia. He has some really good posts. He advocates consideration of treatment with escitalopram, which repairs damaged endothelium, and metformin, among other treatments.

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Mystic William's avatar

I’ve had two colds since COVID. I’m unvaxed. But I’ve been working like a nut under ridiculous pressure for the last three years. And I’m in my 70s. And I have CAD. Both times It went away.

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Mystic William's avatar

People Typically get sick every so often. The symptoms of COVID are the same as any other cold one gets. The PCR test has never been accurate. It would be reasonable to say since COVID broke the average unvaxed would have been sick a couple of times. That’s typical. If you stick something up your nose it’s hit or miss whether it will be positive or negative. Saying I was sick with COVID is not any more reasonable than saying I was sick with a cold.

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ArnoldF's avatar

or sticking the swab into a can of coke and coming back with a positive pcr test as was reported.

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Mystic William's avatar

The African President, who mysteriously died shortly after, who tested a mango and found it had COVID.

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ArnoldF's avatar

I think that was the example I was thinking of...my bad.

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Mystic William's avatar

Oh my Gaia! COke = COvid!

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Have regular health screens. The Chinese don't use anti-HIV drugs to treat covid for no reason.

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Greg K's avatar

Were the unvaccinated repeat cases an earlier variant and then omicron? I haven't heard of a case where an unvaccinated person has contracted omicron twice

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I don't know about the repeat cases Igor referred to. I can think of 5 repeat cases in unvaxxed I know of. In no case was the variant identified but in the first of all of those cases borders had just opened a few weeks to months into the first omicron wave locally. It's not impossible the first cases were delta although I think it's more likely that most if not all were omicron. 2 cases were a husband and wife in their 80s and their son probably aged about 50. Another was a male in his early 60s and one, who was on workers compensation, was a woman in her 30s. The woman was hit hard. All except the woman in her 30s had their first case in early 2022 and the 2nd case just before Christmas 2022. The son of the woman in her 80s twice took her to hospital and was turned away each time in early 2022. They are business people and she worked through her 2nd infection. Her husband was coughing blood during the 2nd infection but tested negative after 5 days. The son said infection was mild the first time and even milder the 2nd time. The other male in his early 60s said it was mild each time.

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Greg K's avatar

Early 2022 would still be more likely to be Delta than Omicron. It only became prevalent in South Africa in early December 2021 (where it was first detected in November 2021).

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Anja's avatar

I seem to remember that quite some time ago Igor wrote about all the Omicrons being very different from eachother. so that actually there is not "One Omicron" but lots of different variants all called "omicron". I had omicron, don't know which variant though, in March 22 here in Germany. Unvaxxed and it was my first and up to now last covid infection. Hardly any symptoms.

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shasta's avatar

As you know, that is very dependent on your willing to test yourself...

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Matt's avatar

Just tested positive with my second covid infection, almost a year after the first. It happens.

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Nancy HOYT's avatar

I am unvaxxed and had delta April 2021 and omicron January 2022. Both were akin to strange colds.

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Matt's avatar

About the same so far for me, of course this is my first day of symptoms with the second infection, so we'll see how it progresses.

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Scott's avatar

Could easily be a complicated mix. Delayed effects of the vax alone and/or COVID mixing with immune damaged people because of the vax. I don't think it's a "deadlier" variant unless we start seeing the unvaxxed start taking a hit. Bulgaria would suggest no.

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Paul's avatar

Not so simple, as it is quite possible the unvaxxed will mount a far more robust immune response to the postulated deadlier variant...which would make it deadlier only to the vaxxed.

I think Igor is onto something. I know from my own experience that the long-term effects of covid can be real. FLCCC takes long covid seriously, and that carries a lot of weight with me. I'm unvaxxed, a pre-pandemic anti-vaxxer I have no qualms admitting, and I would really like all the problems to be due to the vax, but I think that's wrong. Covid is a bioweapon, can't forget that. Although the vaxxed are clearly at much higher risk than the unvaxxed, across the board, I suspect the unvaxxed remain at risk.

The unvaxxed countries have herd immunity; the vaxxed countries don't. This should be getting shouted from the rooftops. But...deafening silence.

Interesting, BTW, that this article appears in the same week Pfizer admits to gain of function research.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

It would be deadlier to those that are immuno-compromised. That is what the jabs do and to make things really worse, they damage the heart. It is the luck of the draw - some people never made past 2 weeks after the jabs whereas some are only now starting to notice that their heart rates are going through the roof for normal activity. From the jabbed point of view, a variant could be deadlier because the immune response is no longer effective and that is what the data from Bulgaria seems to suggest.

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Michael Dunn's avatar

I've been asking this same question for a while now. I hate the injections and I hate the over-hyping of covid but people have been so quick to rule out the possibility that these excess deaths could be caused by something created in a lab by psychopaths. The truth is, we don't KNOW what is killing these people. I suspect the poisonous injections but I don't know that. If I was qualified to investigate it, I'd try. I sure wish someone would figure it out soon. I know too many good people who have taken the shots and I'm sure I've had covid a time or two myself.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

bingo

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shibumi's avatar

Perhaps it's telling that no one is interested in finding out why there are excess deaths. It's almost like that's what they want.

On El Gato Malo's site, someone basically said this:

In a few years, when they admit that the injections caused lots of people to die and others to be infertile, they'll celebrate it. People will no longer have to worry about birth control and can have all the sex they want and the planet/ climate will be healthier because so many people died. It will be seen as a win-win.

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Mystic William's avatar

I don’t think so. Because it isn’t like some die and the rest are okay. This will be like a war. For every death there are ten damaged people living with it.

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shibumi's avatar

Really good point about the people who are damaged and living with it.

Perhaps that's another reason that places like Canada are now ALL IN on assisted suicide.

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Mystic William's avatar

Canada has gone to the dark side. Unsay this as a Canadian. Justin is more than stupid. He’s evil.

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TB's avatar

That won't work unless the infertility is 100% effective... the ones who WANT to go out having sex won't be happy if there's still a 5%, 10%, 20% chance of getting pregnant. And no matter what, all the ones who want children will be MEGA pissed.

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MsDemeanor's avatar

The only ones lucky enough for children will be the very rich and the parasites (they're NOT elites) controlling everything, including the newly built artificial womb clinics that will be creating custom ordered 'pod' babies.

Think I'm joking?

Look it up...it's no secret.

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FreedomFighter's avatar

There is one very potent factor-- the spike protein. Spike proteins cause numerous problems, the worse of which is the blood clotting, which will be the cause of different causes of death. An infection, a shot or 3 or 4 or 5, another infection are all adding spike protein to a body. Having read a bit from Zelenko, Geert, Alexander and others, they all predicted that the body's innate immune system would slowly become non-functional. In other words, no immunity. Any disease, from the flu to cancer, will kill when there is no immunity. These experts also predicted a rash of deaths starting in the 3rd or 5th year after being inoculated. These predictions are coming to fruition, unfortunately. Certainly not everybody, but many who took the shots will succumb. I believe the deaths will increase, especially if the bioweapons are still being injected. Geert's prediction of a more virulent strain, I believe, has not (yet) occurred. The lower excess deaths in the low vaxxed nations also is proof of what is happening.

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Sharon W's avatar

In the late 1970s there was an episode of All Creatures Great and Small wherein Herriott discovered the dairy cows got an infection due to the wife milking them after her baby was inoculated. In other words, vax transmission, in this case from baby, to mother (at least on her hands) to the cows udder.

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FreedomFighter's avatar

I had not even considered shedding as a factor causing death. There seems to be little doubt that the spike protein can be transmitted to another person, but I have not heard of any studies or anecdotal evidence that shedding could cause death to the person on the receiving end. With these bioweapon jabs, there is little that would surprise me.

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Paul's avatar

Now that's very, very interesting. Spike protein shedding is for pussies, compared to that. Sheds from baby to mother to...another species. Wow.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

If you are looking at it from a jabbed point of view, Geert was correct. The latest strains seem more lethal then previous ones and that is inline with what he claimed in an interview with the HighWire.

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Joel Walbert's avatar

The 3+ injection group are quite possibly getting hit hard with things that normally are not an issue. Doesn't necessarily have to be a deadlier anything if typical seasonal illnesses are too much for some people now.

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Hanna's avatar

And what about the children of these folks? I’m hearing of a lot of children (many unvaxxed) who are struggling with many illnesses? I wonder about shedding, masking, toxicity in school This is not my experience parenting a child who has only received one vaccine ever and is homeschooled. Not one illness in 3 years and we live life normally albeit on a farm with copious amounts of bone broth. But “normal” still.

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Bird's avatar

Nice life. :)

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Joel Walbert's avatar

I honestly dont know what to think of the shedding thing. Being that Pfizer does have documented 'concerns' about it clearly a possibility, but as far as I have seen (and its possible I missed something) nothing has actually been shown conclusive either way. Although even flu shots do have a warning about recent recipients potentially be unifected carriers for up to 30 days so with this new technology, who knows. What I can say with near certainty is its not a guaranteed issue. I live with someone who got Moderna and my health is fine (been 12 yrs since last illness so I might not be the best test case on that issue though). My assumption is shedding effects depend on the person, like most things.

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A Dizzle's avatar

The immune system not responding at all or triggering a further, more devastating, auto immune response. Sub clinical myocarditis, or affected tissue being attacked again by the immune system?

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Bird's avatar

Plus Spike targets the blood cells - the immune cells and erythrocytes. AND their progenitors. If things work the classic way, Spike-as-foreign-invader should flag the immune system to destroy any infected cell.

Neurons and reproductive cells also targeted.

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Joel Walbert's avatar

Yea that sounds reasonable unfortunately.

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baker charlie's avatar

So, WTF, I can never 'retire'. Gonna have to keep on because the COL is shite, the fund I paid into for decades is kaput, the silver lining is that an unvaxxed employee who can show up every day and display cognizance will be catnip...

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I have the same exact dilemma

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Mystic William's avatar

In my field I am seeing unbelievable incompetence. I had been seeing it for awhile. Before COVID. Experienced people Retiring, younger types taking over without the requisite years of experience, also a whole crop of very unmotivated youngsters. In large part because they have been told ‘you’ll never own a house, the world is dying, don’t bring children into this mess’ and so on. Partly they were helicoptered by overbearing overprotective parents. Since the jab though we have gone into Turbo Incompetence. Previously competent people are struggling to get things done. And making egregious errors.

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Miko (Socialism Survivor)'s avatar

Join the club! For me the biggest fear is that we are looking at a slow decent into a Mad Max world because the people that are running very complex and fragile supply chains, are simply going to be gone before any replacement can be found.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

It is time to prepare.

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Sheila Secrist's avatar

What if...the last round of shots have a slow building adverse event that is only now peaking after x number of months from shot? Like the sudden death heart attacks (and maybe others) now happening everywhere. Couldn't that be a possible factor, maybe even large factor. Most posted info has worst AEs within a fairly short time period after shots but what if there's more, quietly growing and building until it peaks (like cancer)?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Could be, but somehow we need to explain "waves". The vaccines probably do a lot of various types of damage. One is susceptibility to reinfections.

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MAGA_From_Heaven's avatar

Perhaps that Travis Scott concert is the answer?

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shasta's avatar

Yes! I have just written something about it.

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Sheila Secrist's avatar

The next few months should tell the story on this if it is related to the shots. Very few, comparatively, got the last couple boosters. If this last peak is due to a slow something, say 6 months, after the last shot then there shouldn't be any more huge peaks? On the other hand as you say reinfection is a problem...and could even be something like now in the heavily vaccinated a common cold becomes a deadly illness... etc etc etc. The only way to truly know (not guess) would be to know of all the excess deaths how many were vaxed vs unvaxed, right?

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