Find a like minded Holestic MD or DO ! They are all over. Interview Doc first. They don't mind. They want like minded patients.
Ask for references from the Pharmacists ( private best ), Compounding pharmacies, high end vitamin stores or heath food stores, friends, online etc.
If a regular doc or nurse asks you if you have had a Covid injection say " no comment " because they are starting record of a vax passport as o 1/23 and then they will attempt to give you a billing code to inform you that u should be injected with the Bioweapon injection and they will have record and charged you and your insurance company for this. Stand up and say do not tell me one thing about it and DO NOT bill me or my Insurance ( Medicare ) for it. This is the plan to capture people through the health care system. Run the other way, look for a Doc who will keep paper folder files that are not computerized so they cannot be stolen or uploaded to a large data base. Best
I heard about this invasion of privacy recently. It wouldn't surprise me if people are denied medical treatment or a social security because they didn't get covid jabbed. I and others have already heard about people who were denied organ transplants for the very same reason. I'm doing my best to live as though conventional medicine and their practitioners don't exist anyway. Many of us are better off and liver a better quality of life without them.
Not true in KS either. I had cardiac ablation for afib in Feb ‘22 and had no issues getting anything. They even stopped requiring a covid test 5 days before my procedure (thank god) so I’ve STILL never shoved one of their vile swabs up my nose either. I’ve never been sick either despite working all the way thru it all. That being said I’m on the fence as to whether or not to lie and say I’m vaccinated because that whole billing code business just chaps my ass. And I too worry it will be used against me someday.
Not true in Illinois, I've had 2 hip replacements and 2 eye surgeries in the last 11 months. Some hospitals were denying transplants for unvaxxed though. Bastards!
I didn't know that! I had heard about the organ transplants about 2 years ago. Well, as far as I'm concerned. Allopathic medicine can shove their toxic vaccines, chemical medicines and mistreatments straight into hell.
So, there are newer ICD-10 codes to distinguish those who have been vaccinated or not.
We haven’t been asked to start putting those in patients charts (yet).
But, alI one has to do is press one button to import all vaccinations that have been uploaded to the State (MI) database/registry and import them into the patients chart.
The insurance carriers haven’t asked us to start dropping the ICD-10 codes down into the A/P to bill it out - that’s when insurance companies can see it.
I suspect they won’t ask/incentivize us to do that, as there already is a registry at the state level and if those at the federal level want it they will just take it.
I hate to lie and say yes, as that’s playing into the government scheme. And what if they raise my insurance cost once they figure out the jabs cause disease? I’m actually avoiding going to a doc as I don’t want to be asked!
I agree with you 100%. But if we miss out on TRULY necessary medical care (I believe a large fraction of medical care is NOT actually necessary), then this would be really playing into their hands. We know they tend to be gleeful every time one of us unvaccinated goes downhill or dies.
Go to a Doctor that thinks like you! There are lots. Talk to people and research through FLCCC and AFLD! They are setting up a parallel Health Care system.
They are honest and have been fighting, for you the people who have not been listening to them. They have been telling you to NOT GET THE BIOWEAPON INJECTION and you all were laughing at them. They have been screaming for you to deaf ears! Each and every freedom you have gotten back...Is because of them. ie Dr Pierre Kory Testifies before the US Senate 2020 rumble.com or odysee None of you , at least the ones who got injected, were listening to these smart Doctors who knew better!
Find them on substacks Dr. McCullough ( Cardiologist, Tx) Dr. Pierre Kory ( Pulmonologist ) Dr Simone Gold ( Emergency Medicine ), Dr. Bowden ( ENT ) etc etc etc the list goes on. They get it. They are on your side. Get referrals from them or do Telehealth visits. FLCCC and or AFLD.
Thé Evils are going to trick you again. Make friends with someone knowledgeable you can trust. ( anti vaxer , anti vaxed )
Next hoax I see coming ( there are more ) is Cancer " vaccine ". NO SUCH THING. The words do not even make sense. LGB started talking about it a year ago or more. That is also how you know it is another sick joke on humanity.
That’s my game plan. If I do get sick and I can’t deal with it myself I will go to a Homeopathy/Naturopathy/Chinese medical clinic. No hospital or doctors for me anymore, I’m done.
If you say " yes " , the next question is When ?! Then they will print you a vaccine passport in your computer file, that says you are DUE for your next one. B.Hates has thought of that!
Thé Evils have thought of that Gary. They are smarter than most of us. That is why they are Billionaires and Homicidal Psychopaths that keep getting away with it.
You have to anticipate their moves by thinking like them. This is a chess game. A regular persons immediate response is probably not the right answer to escape them.
Not going to a Hospital Based or Insurance Based Dr is best. Pay cash and then send in your receipt to your insurance company if you have one ( Not always cost affective ).
It may be best to pay out of pocket and just have catastrophic health insurance should/when the time comes. Check it out.
I never go for a Medicare “checkup”. I fractured my ankle last May requiring surgery and metal plates etc. After the follow ups and some physical therapy until they said I could stop going I haven’t been to a doctor since. And before that I went once three years ago when I needed an excuse to get out of jury duty. I’m 74 and very healthy BECAUSE I take no medication and avoid doctors. Walking my big dogs and going to the gym are all the medicine I need
I am almost 73 and avoid these check ups like the plague. I do not take any big pharma drugs and treat my problems myself. I believe for many staying out of the medical system as much as possible is a healthy choice.
I have the same view as Vinnie. I haven't seen a family doctor in a very, very long time. Learning how to be my own doctor was the best thing I have ever done. The good news is that anyone can do it. It takes lots of reading, that's sure. More then 10 years ago I read a book written by a doctor about let's call them not so great things, the medical system does to people. And one of them was the annual checkup. I'm only mentioning it because I found it interesting. But at the end of the day, it's your call. You are the one in charge of your decisions.
Well, here the bureaucratic answer. Once you are on Medicare, there is protocol ( shocking, right?) The Annual Medicare Wellness check up is a joke. They’re more interested in your mental state i.e “ do you feel sad every day, seldom” etc physical “ can you dress yourself?” There is no physical assessment. And if you have any on going concerns about your physical health, make an appt. However, if you do not show up for these annual check ups and then end up in the hospital ( even if it’s because you had a head on collision with a drunk) , Medicare can deny your A/B full coverage because you no showed for your wellness check ups. I’m giving this 45 year old doctor one more chance. I know one of her teenage sons had a bad vax reaction. But if she is still spewing CDC /FDA NYTimes , I’m moving on and looking for a D.O. But I need my Medicare Coverage. I cannot afford to pay out of pocket.
I’ve been on Medicare for one year and never heard of a checkup requirement. I’ll probably lie to any invasive questions as suggested in the comments. Definitely lie about having guns, alcohol use, etc.
I was not aware of the “check-up”. I did not yet sign up for Medicare as my hubby still works and I can continue on his insurance even though I’m over 65 now.
I’m holding off as long as I can. I despise the government nosiness.
I just had a “survey” asking me questions similar to the ones you stated above. But this is associated with a visit to my orthopedic doc tomorrow! They state on the survey it’s a government one so I answered wrongly on all the questions. Despite having some degree of difficulty associated with each question asked, I instead answered as though I were in perfect health.
My girlfriend had her check up today. They didn't ask her about any vaccinations, but on the forms she filled out there were about 20 questions related to her sex life. What garbage. She is almost 77 and her sex life is great!
It is called a wellness check and it includes blood work which I am now paranoid about because who knows where that ends up-China, DOD? I will skip blood work this year.
When the time comes. I'll sign up for Medicaid to avoid future premium penalties for not signing up when I first become eligible to do so. However, I have no plans or intentions of using it. And if some doctor calls me because I put their name down as being my primary physician. As I told a lady that that happened to. I will tell the doctor that I'll call you if I need you.
When I was fired in 2021 for noncompliance to the vax requirements I went on Medicaid to avoid the penalties. But I have not been to any doctor since my primary physician encouraged the shot in summer of 21. I have no plans to ever voluntarily present my body to the medical industry again.
Sorry about the crafting job firing in 2021 for you and everyone else in this upside down world. I think it's a good idea to sign up for Medicaid ASAP. Those late filing premium penalties are for life I read. It appears to me that all health insurance premiums continue to rise. Medicaid or non-medicaid. I looked at what health insurance would cost me last year if I had retired. Almost as much as I pay while working a full-time job, and probably premium increases every year. My group health plan has risen from $60 a month to almost $275 monthly since the passage of Obama care. And rising every year since.
I can carry over my employee sponsored healthcare plan into retirement with one stipulation. It's required that the insured purchase Medicare Part B! My employer sponsored AKA group insurance plan already already covers everything that Medicare Parts A and B covers and more. My roll-over health insurance plan would basically be similar to Medicaid Part C. For those who don't know. You get the premium free Part A coverage from the medicare taxes you paid into that ponzi scheme. Also, Parts B, C and D are your financial responsibility. Last time I looked Medicare Part B was approaching $200 a month per person for non-millionaires. I'm sure the total costs for paying 3 additional Medicare insurance premiums per month can cost close to $400 or more for one person.
If I knew what the future held. I would invest my retirement income on other things besides any part of Medicare. If you have the funds. I would suggest you visit ifm.org (The Institute For Functional Medicine). As far as I know the devil hasn't taken over that institution yet. Integrative medical practitioners can be located around the world through links on that site. However, these type of doctors don't usually take medicare, work outside of the disease care system, and are not beholdened to the disease care treatment model. I like the idea of cleansing the body of toxins and parasites. And giving the body the nutrients and antioxidants it needs to heal and stay healthy. Real medicine.
I usually get that Medicare and Medicaid mixed up. However, both are ponzi schemes in my book. I figure that one person should be prepared to spend around $500 to $1K per month just to cover their health insurance premiums, as costs continues to rise. I still have the option of just signing up for Medicare Part A and keep the rest of my retirement money in my pocket. Being that I would only use that system as a last resort if I ever bothered to use it at all.
I skipped my Medicare “checkup” starting in 2021. My docs use it as an opportunity to harass me for not taking their miracle drugs and injections and endless tests looking for “disease” to treat. Read Dr Gilbert Welch, “Overdiagnosed” and Barbara Ehrenreich’s “Natural Causes”
I had no idea LWB. Now I know what to expect from Medicare doctors if I ever use one. I hear that allopathic doctors get funded by big pharma to promote vaccines, drugs and to write out prescriptions. I'm starting to think that instead of feeding the Medicare system. Just sign up for and use Part A as long as you're not forced to take the other parts. And invest the rest of my money integrative medicine, natural remedies and antioxidants. Come what may. I'm not paying anyone to keep me sick and diseased. It's a wonder Medicare hasn't collapsed already from 40+ years of medical fraud alone.
They do something similar in the UK with our crap NHS.
They basically invite you for a check up to go on a fishing exercise to see if they can get you on statins, blood pressure meds and the like.
It is important for them to get you on these early interventions as this is how they start you on the path to taking 30 medications a day by the time you are 60.
They hope to poison you, rinse you financially for the pivilege and then bump you off before you can collect any pension you may be owed.
I guess I differ from many here in that I don’t think all modern medicine is bad. Five years ago, I had an excellent Asian American orthopedic surgeon install two branny new hips and I went from being in chronic pain to completely pain free, back to a daily 3 mile walk. Also, menopause can wreak havoc with Womens health; metabolism, BP, heart disease.. many of these being hereditary. I don’t take any prescriptions unless it makes sense to me. I maintain a relationship with a Primary Care physician simply to have access if needed. Doctors do not have to take on the liability of seeing someone with whom they are not familiar. I’m 71, my doctor knows where I stand on Big Pharma. It’s a balancing act.
I'll admit that there have been some good advances in allopathic medicine. I've profited from modern medicine in the past myself. Luckily I've only had to deal with non-lethal, non-communicable infections thus far. And I have listened to integrative medical specialists who seem to believe that there is a time and a place for allopathic medicine.
The lies, the deceptions, the fear-mongering, the one-size-fits-all medical model, the non-informed consent are a few of the things that ticks me off about conventional medicine. I think healthcare And medicine has become too politicized for one thing. And when folks starts talking about mandates, or not allowing people the option of taking the handful of prescription medicines that are truly safer and more effective at handling diseases. It's just about totally turned me and many others off from western medicine.
Fortunately there are other options to treat health issues and we flock to those. Some people in these crazy times I hear have gotten good results from working with ethical doctors such as yourself. But in this day and time if third-party treatment is needed on this end outside of emergency care. Seeking conventional medical treatment would be a last resort for me. God bless and keep you in good health.
Watch out, bad Doctors get incentivized and penalized ( esp with HMO) for not writing scripts and not giving every arm Injections. You will be the first to be cut loose in the practice. He/she pays for your non adherence. Our Ped actually told us and I accused her of conflict of interest. She sniffed. Then she eventually send the dear John letter I had been anticipating.
Thanks! I’ve been a healthy skeptic of doctors for decades. Pregnant with my now 35 year old daughter, I was possibly going to need blood transfusions…AIDS was emerging. I asked my ob/gyn about nursing … he scoffed. My husband worked for Prudential, he posed my concern to Pru’s top Doc… the guy howled over “your wife” being paranoid…yeah, well, I didn’t need a transfusion and yes, HIV is transmitted in blood transfusions….
Tim, you're probably right about staying away from government run sick and disease care. And who can put it past these people to mandate that you take pharma drugs whether or not you need or want them in order to keep coverage? Besides, I wouldn't put it past unethical doctors to lie about people having diseases they don't have just to get and keep them on prescription meds. I suspect this has already been in practice for decades.
I know exactly what you are talking about. The first annual check up I attended a nurse looked at the computer screen and just read out the set of 'standarsided' questions. No consideration for individual life styles and body make up. Then they go by numbers (means test results, your cholesterol value etc).
Here I had a similar experience. One dumb episode is when they took my X Ray and told me to take a deep breath I accidentally unconsciously did my Yoga breathing. The result showed my disfigured lungs. And the examining doc said 'you might have had TB. your lungs seem damaged.' When I returned for the following yr, I did my regular breathing. A perfect shot of my lungs. I had to explain it to the doc. She didn't have a clue. They just flash your blood test result and go by numbers. Anything goes outside the 'average range. You are labelled as abnormal. On the way to medication. They say these check ups work as a preventative measure but it feels like the opposite, making you anxious and ill. And I know so many who stop taking alcohol and unhealthy food just before their checkups in an attempt to manipulate their test results.
Also the local authorities seem to get financial incentives for getting the certain number of people undertake the annual checkups.
I realised the tricks so I haven't since taken any more check ups.
That is not the half of it. So much worse. They are keeping your DNA typing in a Data base to develop race based and individual based ( if you are high enough on their enemy list ) Bioweapons. Easy. MTG came out of a Congressional Top Secret Intell Meeting and admitted it, bless her soul. MSM missed it, go figure.
Why do you think the Evils created " 23 and me " etc., etc. Do you think they care if you know who your cousin is? No. The Evils own or bought the data bases.
Find a private, like minded, wholestic , boutique Dr and insist on paper records.
The VIPs use aliases. You will be very happy one day if thé Evils win and line us all up. The less info they have the better.
yeah. i think so too. a friend was vaccine injured, couldn’t function for 6 months after vax, but her ‘diagnosis’ was long covid. she refers to it as ‘the first time she got covid’. but she didn’t get covid at all that first time... the medications she was given messed her up more, finally Traditional Chinese Medicine cleared her up.
The sad thing is there is a small percentage of people who actually do have long covid and they will probably not get the best of care because of the conflation between long covid and vaxx injuries.
If the two aren't distinguished than the treatment standard will be sloppy....and perhaps counterproductive.
I'm incensed over conventional medical treatment for every disease. I don't doubt the covid vaccine injuries, vaccine shedding or the long haul covid experiences.
Long covid symptoms also match the symptoms of microwave radiation poisoning (chronic fatigue, headaches, skin rashes, heart palpitations/ arrhythmia, flu like symptoms, digestive problems, insomnia, blood clots and electrical or buzzing sensations in the skin). So the same logic applies to microwave poisoning injuries and chronic ill health.
Long covid / microwave radiation poisoning symptoms were being reported for years prior to 2020 by people living next to cell towers, smart meters, wifi etc but they got little attention because wireless technology is our new religion (and if you use wireless gadgets your part of the problem).
So now the vax is creating similar symptoms. This is hardly surprising because microwaves/ vax are both toxicological insults to the body. Long covid symptoms are basically the symptoms of a toxicological overload (poisoning).
As long as you agree that your long covid symptoms are caused 'the virus' the health system will acknowledge you. And as long as covid skeptics blame it on the vax the wireless industry will get a few more years of breathing space to completely cover the planet, by which time we will all be sick (the new normal). Cue more 'viruses' and more vaccines and more wireless to surveil the vaxxed population.
Wifi is already being removed from schools in many countries because it's making the children sick (with long covid symptoms). France has banned it. Again, this is all prior to 2020. Without all the drama in 2020 the topic of wireless pollution (and the need to abandon this technology on health and environmental grounds) would have gone mainstream.
Thanks for link. Unfortunately that paper is problematic because it refers to the alleged 'virus' called 'SARS COV2' when no such virus has ever been shown to exist. In fact virology as a field of study does not meet the basic criteria of science (ie hypothesis driven and using adequate controls in order to be falsifiable).
Also 'covid' itself has no distinguishing clinical symptoms which means it cannot be called a new disease. Covid symptoms range from no symptoms (asymptomatic).... to the flu .... to dying of multi organ failure ..... and everything else in between. It is a meaningless term.
Ex-virologist Dr Stefan Lanka has demonstrated how the standard virological experiments (cytopathic effect of a cell culture) will provide 'proof' of the supposed 'virus' SARS COV2 even when no sample from a sick person is added. He has also managed to extract the entire SARS COV2 genome from a sample of yeast, again without adding any sample from a sick person. These experiments are the controls that virologists never do.... presumably because they expose virology as pseudo-science.
In other words, virology's own methodology will always provide proof of a 'virus', making the entire field of virology a fraud and everything downstream from virology (tests, vaccines, lockdowns, masks and social distancing) also a fraud.
Over 200 health and environmental agencies have responded to FOIA requests with the admission that they hold no evidence of SARS COV2 being isolated from any sick person. The so called 'virus' is no more than an imaginary computer generated 'in silico' mental construct which has never been proven to exist in nature.
The only part of that paper which adheres to science is the stuff about the harms caused by microwaves. But the stuff about viruses is just nonsense. Microwaves are a real thing, viruses are not.
This is good news. Once virology is rejected as a pseudo-science we can all focus on the REAL threats to our health such as vaccines, wireless pollution, poor diet, pesticides, chemtrails, processed foods, pharma drugs and emotional trauma from watching too much 'fear porn' on TV etc :)
The problems with virology are explained in this paper.
Very useful article, thank you, even taking into account new health paradigm's reservation. It would be a good study to give to a sympathetic doctor willing to open their mind.
Spot on. Where I live the medical industry is not even acknowledging long covid as a post viral syndrome, let alone considering EMFs. We have to sort it out and fix it for ourselves.
Many of my symptoms in my mind while suffering 'COVID', including a two week long 'trip' at home before someone rang me up and found I was out of it and called me an ambulance, I would describe as being exactly like ten tabs of acid (I know exactly the power of such a dose from my experimental days some decades ago), but with the addition of very severe and very disabling physical illness. This trip experience continued bizarrely even during a 4 week induced coma on a mechanical ventilator and subsequent ECMO machine artificial lung membrane blood oxygenating machine, during which time I was literally completely lucid having a constant out of body experience which was a continuation of the trip I had started on at home, and this same trip continued even when I came out of the induced coma, for at least a week more, it was exactly as if I had been plugged into some diabolically sadistic AI supercomputer program that was linked to teams of sadistic scientists in some parallel other dimension skilled more in inflicting the most intense and extremely rapid and painful tortures and mind control techniques than anything else. Of course, that sort of experience can always be ascribed to delirium caused by COVID sepsis. But it was no dream, I still remember everything like it just happened.
Scientists today talk of the possibility of using techniques of giving prisoners many year prison sentences in just few hours punishment using such intensive techniques, I am convinced they are already doing that very thing right now already.
But I have experienced very definite microwave attacks in recent years, for instance a Conservative MP candidate visited my apartment and asked me if I would be voting Conservative in the local bi-elections in the UK, I told him that Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson were mass murderers and belonged in Rampton top security psychiatric hospital for natural life for mass murder after 30,000 older people had died when COVID-infected older people had been shoved into old-peoples' care homes with them with no medical facilities at all, just like tossing a lit petrol-soaked rag in there with them, and then a second canvasser came round a couple of days later or so, and I told him exactly the same, and he made sure he got my exact name and precise flat number confirmed, and then very shortly after his visit came the microwave attack, like a woodpecker pecking loudly and constantly against the inside of my skull for several days in perfect rhythm, like a constant fast metronome beat which could not be ascribed to the beating of my heart, or blood pressure against my ear-drums, as the rhythm was completely different, too fast for the heart and perfectly regular, not broken into pulsed beats, and then it suddenly completely stopped just as it had suddenly started, I have never had those specific symptoms before or since, but have had many other microwave attacks, but then again I am always criticizing the government online and that is what I and many others get for doing that. When I was in the ICU ward, a Jewish-named senior consultant doctor visited me after I had been taken off the mechanical ventilator, and several times menacingly repeated; "The government warned you, the government warned you, the government warned you".
The UK is an open prison now, and they are torturing people and murdering people as they wish.
Despite my having survived, I remain very badly injured, with my life expectancy undoubtedly dramatically shortened I reckon by around a couple of decades or so, it is just a delayed form of murder really.
Several years ago I was accidentally handed a printout within other paperwork that had been printed out accidentally in addition to a hospital referral letter, it stated; "You may deny this patient any treatment", presumably that had been intended to be faxed over to the hospital separately. So they make out they are letting you see a doctor but it is very often all an act, but not always of course, so as to maintain the illusion that healthcare is really still available, if only sporadically, and then treatment may deliberately be entirely inappropriate, or extremely delayed, even intendedly harmful. This was before COVID, even before I was 60 years old. Staff refused me any explanation, I had never been aggressive or rude to any staff, and when I asked why this was on my medical files, I was told only "We think it is necessary" by the heavily-built and tattooed 'practice manager' at my local GP surgery who looked me in the eye constantly and unflinchingly exactly like a boxer facing another in the ring just before a match, he was a total psychopath lusting for violence, no exaggeration there at all in the slightest. But then again, what else would one expect when the Israeli hostile foreign power military occupation government of the UK is busy literally murdering people? Of course they are going to have heavies on hand to enforce the program whenever necessary. This country, and the rest of the entire world is under attack, by Israel I reckon, part of the WEF/UN/Chabad Lubavitcher Noahide Law 'population reduction' and 'spiritual morality' program, as the law against idolatry alone will mean executing 6 billion people, though the Israelis faked their own COVID epidemic and vaccination programs, I have video material proving that, but they of course reckon they have had it worse than everyone else of course, as usual, when they themselves are behind things, as usual.
when a death cult has penetrated the cabinets, we are in the greatest wealth transfer in history, and we have an epidemic of sudden death caused by anything but the vaccine which is baffling the systems which have proven themselves untrustworthy and seem to be actively collapsing, i think we have many good reasons to be wary. i think suspicion is a healthy and rational response.
LGB-FJB “legitimized” so-called long COVID in early 2022, which, as w/ everything this demonic administration supports or does, merely confirms the lies, corruption & ongoing all-government power grab $ giving people further excuses to file for short or long term disability - more suckers on the government teat.
Long COVID encompasses very vague & subjective complaints & “symptoms” that can be chalked up to all sorts of other issues, including psychological ones & the jab séquele itself.
I am unvax’d & had c-pneumonia Dec 2021-Jan 2022, very sick for about a month & on home O2 24/7 for 2 of those. As with any serious illness (respiratory or otherwise) there was a period of recovery, including fatigue, weak lungs, etc for some weeks or months after. But I came out of it ok, never considered that period to be “long COVID” & don’t have lingering effects that I know of. I have no doubt that some unvax’d come out better than others, based on various factors. For the vax’d, knowing what we know now about the damage & death the jab causes, anything going on there with them would have to be due to the poisons.
Yes, Napoleon, I agree. 'Perfect' deceptive cover for covid shot injury.
And for those stating they never had covid, so it couldn't have been "long" covid, the government will say it was an "asymptomatic" case, of which we know there is no such thing.
Yep. 100% what I see. My currently disabled (> 8 months!) neighbour is a wreck because of mandatory vaccination. I have a post-secondary student suffering with post-vaccination issues. Another lost a 45 y.o aunt to a heart attack. But I don't hear anything about long covid so much. It exists, but vaccine injuries vastly outnumber long covid. Long covid is a nice cover to vaccine injury, though.
I agree about the spraying. Our white cars are coated like never before in a fine mist of metallic grey. The roofs of the houses where they use terracotta tiles show the grey streaks like never before. On days that they are spraying particularly heavily, outdoor holidays, large well known outdoor events I can see as well as feel it in the air with my lungs. And not as much at other times. Are other people noticing it on their white cars and roofs etc. ?
I take NAC for good measure and it seems to help as far as I can tell.
BRITAIN is covered in it .. my home is Suffolk is covered in it YES it exists! If you want more information on the perpetrators then look up INDIGO SKYFALL that is the name of the “secret operation” that is chemtrailing us.
The cause can be many things. Spike proteins are only one of those. But unfortunately they are one of those and a lot of people have been exposed to it.
I eat 3 brazil nuts (selenium) per day for this reason. I hope it is doing some good re DNA repair and maintenance function. It is supposed to be important - selenium - to DNA repair.
Have you followed Garth Nicholson and his work on mycoplasma and Gulf War syndrome? You just seem like someone who would know and I’ve lost interest in staying on top of all these things. I think he developed some product to help at the cellular level but I’m not recalling(or even checking before I say anything here)exactly what transpired.
And BTW, I am glad(in a way) to connect with another CFS person. I stoped FB years ago and groups etc.
Garth Nicholson did some amazing work showing contamination in military vaccines being part of the story of Gulf War Syndrome. And there were helpful recovery protocols based on those findings. Worth revisiting that literature. If he is still around and kicking, maybe a Substack writer could interview him.
I haven't followed him so to speak but I have read up on his theories.
Which at least superficially share some similarities with Dr Judy Mikovitz.
I think that they have a good case as to their theories but I think it's a focus, tunnel vision of sorts on a small (or moderate) factor and not entirely the whole unifying picture.
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But I have to confess, until people really start digging into these epigenetic, organelles and even retroviral theories deeper, it's all just guesswork at best.
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It's actually incredibly complex science with difficult experiments to construct and a lot of variables that are hard to eliminate, regardless of which ever hypothesis you lead with. Because each cell has to be looked at as its own unique ecosystem and in conditions similar to its own environment. At a microscopic level.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23734789/ In the present study, we demonstrated that graphene oxide (GO) induced necrotic cell death to macrophages. This toxicity is mediated by activation of toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4) signaling and subsequently in part via autocrine TNF-α production. Inhibition of TLR4 signaling with a selective inhibitor prevented cell death nearly completely.
"What happens if graphene oxide is in your body?
Graphene oxide affects the body by causing various adverse impacts such as abnormal activation of immune cells and thrombogenicity"
Or it could be related to the 24/7 sky spraying going on.
I work in a retirement/assisted living/SNF with loads of fragile elders throughout the plandemic yet I never witnessed a single covid (or flu) death. The deaths came after the injections. They’re on their 5th boost plus all the other vaccinations that get pushed into them.
Yes, think you are right there. I reckon that there are a few things that also contribute to "Long-Covid". They spray junk on us from above, bombard us with depressing fear porn 24/7, they're ruining our food, have set us against each other and have turned critical thinking into a sickness. Even if you don't believe in the narrative, and have tried to stay healthy throughout it all, it is quite hard to stay focused and sane at times.
Constant stressors - these are what are being thrown at us by TPTB. Same techniques that are used to break down prisoners when they are being interrogated.
All this Trans, BLM, Christians singled out as being evil white supremacists (even though most Christians are not white.), believing in Western culture, heck, even believing in science, etc, etc, etc, is all part of keeping people on their back foot, challenged and stressed.
Historically, I wonder how many times in history human beings have felt that the awful things happening were a spiritual battle between darkness and light coming to a head? Thousands and thousands of times I think.
Yes, I do believe it is a battle between good and evil. I just see it as ongoing and that the evil ones appear to be holding all the aces. Their wealth and control of information seems almost unsurmountable. I do not wish to be negative but I only see a power greater than Man being able to hold these people to account.
Yes and the people I know who complain of lonnnngggg COV were fully immersed in the GOVT narrative. They have had primary course and boosters, still mask, and are by and large unemployable. They will not countenance vaccine injury.
This comment is insulting! I never had a Covid vaccine and won't ever. I had a very mild case of Covid infection, never tested positive before the vaccine was available, thought it was a mild case of flu. A few months later I began to have a variety of weird symptoms that have continued for over 2 years. So I had a Covid antibody test that was highly positive. If I'm just a "hypochrondriac" how did this happen???? You are very insensitive. An RN MS medical provider.
I’m sorry for your suffering. I’m an LVN in a nursing home and fell for the whole scam that vaccines are. I didn’t want to take the experimental ones but I wanted to keep my job. Most of my coworkers felt the same. We never saw a single COVID patient (or flu) and only a couple patients passed during the hard lockdown prior to the shots. One died post her shingrix shots with a bad case of shingles. I was starting to think the shingles shot was the culprit because she’s not the first patient I’ve seen die with shingles post shingrix. Msny people complain that they felt like they were hit by a Mack truck post their shingrix. I was being heavily pressured to get that shot since I was turning 50. But I was too scared to get it.
My 2 cats died after their rabies shots. I’ve since been hearing of other pets dying post rabies shots.
I had a nasty reaction to Pfizer #2 and that caused a lot of issues that I’m still dealing with but I’m surrounded by people who think it’s not the experimental drug. With all the chemicals, medications, chemtrailing, gysophate, and Home chemicals and invisible radiation frequencies that run our computers/cellphones how can anyone believe that is natural or healthy? Because the doctor says so? Since awakening to this Covid scan I trust zero doctors. At work I’m also surrounded by WiFi galore, chemicals galore, I took previous flu shots and other vaccines (but never again)so who knows what damage all those things have/are doing. I’m trying to clean up my life now, maybe it’s too little too late but I’m trying. No more beauty supplies, cleaning supplies, hand sanitizers, OTC, & RX’s. I will not spend my money on their poison’s anymore. Yes, I look like an old lady at 54 because I no longer cover my gray hair or put make up on. I was starting to react to all of it so I was forced to stop anyway back in 2015. It was burning my scalp and face.
The point of my rant is that we are taking in and putting on so much poison that can make us sick. Blaming viruses has been their game for centuries. I know I can’t get rid of every toxin in my life but I certainly can stop buying their crap. Stop using those covid tests, they’re what’s keeping the covid charade going.
I took 2 Covid shots, got sick, got “Covid” 1 year later and although it wasn’t the worst illness I’ve ever had (the shot was 10x worse) I have had many issues since HOWEVER, I was taking ivermectin at that time (yes, I fell for that psyop too) so who’s to say that didn’t cause me all my issues (including my “Covid” symptoms) you can’t. Your body needs to purge poisons if you’re overly toxic your body will struggle.
Hair colorants can be deadly; you might try henna as a natural dye. I also remember my mother making her own walnut tincture for various cosmetic purposes. At the time, I just took it for granted, not fully appreciating her commendable efforts.
I’ve tried henna but it made the gray look worse. I’m completely used to my gray hair and makeup was never really my thing. I tried it here and there as I aged but my skin, especially my eye area would swell and itch so I no longer bother.
Long Covid exist. It is rare and it sounds like you are unfortunately experiencing what all of us have experienced or will in our lives:
The manifestion of sequela of a prior viral infection that has either laid dormant for decades or is a carry-on from the initial infection.
Usually the carry-on effects will self resolve whereas the boomerang sequela are often a burden the rest of our lives.
I understand your frustration by these comments, however I think the point is that the medical-industrial-complex will conflate and exploit long covid for vaxx injuries. And as a direct result neither conditions will receive proper treatment.
I wish you the best. I know that my brother has not been the same ever since he was infected by a virus over 30 years ago.
It is a lonely place, but he has been able to find ways to cope.
You have been very unfortunate being a victim of long covid. And I hope you receive treatment that will free you from the curse of living with something you've contracted at no fault of your own.
Thank you. I appreciate your comments. I understand long term health problems are also possible after other viral infections. I also understand that Covid Long haulers are not showing up at clinics. I suspect that is because these clinics do not offer any useful assistance or treatments. The ones I've looked into did not inquire about a patient's Covid history or experience, but are happy to take one's payment. This has been very frustrating.
I had a bad case of Delta and was hospitalized. Since recovering I’ve had one health problem after another. Just finished a stint in the hospital on Friday for a severe infection in the intestines. And yes I’m unvaccinated and will remain that way.
My sister passed away March 2nd leaving a 14yr old and a 17yr old. My other sister and I are devastated, she was the baby but vaccinated and double boosted. I’m not angry, I’m seething.
So sorry about your loss Andea. I'm unvaccinated and also got very sick with Delta, and spent 3 weeks in the hospital. I ended up getting the Covid Protocol which meant plenty if Remdisavir, and I believe that stuff damaged my kidneys. It took me 6 weeks to recover to the point that I could do physical activity, and 6 months to recover fully. I don't know if it was Long Covid, but it took a long time to feel normal again. Fortunately I've been fine since then, with no further respiratory infections.
They threatened to put me on one. I refused. I told them Oxygen and steroids was enough. It seems that the remdisavir interfered with my kidney function, so fluid just kept filling my lungs instead of exiting through the bladder. After I began recovering, I couldn't understand why it would be given to anyone with a respiratory infection. The nurses were very sympathetic to my plight, but the doctors (except for one old school Internist) seemed unconcerned, getting quite testy when I questioned their Covid protocol, or simply breaking eye contact and walking out. Since then I've lost ALMOST all respect for doctors.
This is what happened to thousands. Who are these individual doctors who followed random orders and had no compassion for their individual patients? This is exactly how they’re taught.
Yes this is right. The vents damage their lungs. They sedate u. Then remdesivir drowns lungs and they say covid oneumonia killed ya and collect some ridicukous 45k perdeath per hospital.
Remdesivir kills kidney function, leading to fluid buildup in the lungs. Stick a ventilator down that patient's trachea and it's just about guaranteed to block up with that fluid, thus drowning the patient -- even if said patient isn't all that sick. This is why they were so adamant to push these methods.
There is a word for this, and it starts with "M." I know of someone who died this way at the end of 2021.
Sorry to hear your story and your sister is just too devastating for words. What did they give you in hospital? Were you given resdemisvir? I just wonder how much the treatment they gave you might have contributed . . . Good luck with your recovery.
I’m so sorry for all you are going through! Did you have your gut microbiome checked? Are you familiar with the work of Dr. Hazan? I would recommend you look into this. My mother had Delta, had GI symptoms but I thought it could have also been related to ivermectin (not sure) but resolved with IV Fluids and anti nausea meds. I wish you and your family health and peace.
Thank you. The week after my sisters funeral I was diagnosed with colitis. However, they believe it was
Montezuma’s Revenge. I did travel from Oklahoma to West Virginia by car. Plenty of 3rd world residents, will give you 3rd world illnesses. Colitis is a process, this process was instant and painful.
There are a lot of ACE 2 receptors in the GI tract epithelium. That may be one of the reasons for increased susceptibility. There has been some research connecting COVID and colitis. I understand how painful it can be and I pray you are able to get it under control.
Yes IVM can have the following side effects: nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain and distention, diarrhea and constipation. And yes to the link about the doctor.
Go to the FLCCC protocols to get better. I would suggest getting the antioxidants and vits from Dr. Mercola's website. Please let me know if you are better in 3-4 weeks. Oh and yogurt and
probiotic pearls. You can have a virtual visit with them. I say move quickly on this before you end up in the deadly hospitals again. Best.
You might look into colostrum, and if it could help. I am currently self-medicating with it for a strange skin infection (three doctors, one specialist, all at a loss), both internally and externally, to good effect.
I'm sorry to hear about illness, Andrea, but very glad to hear that you seem to be recovering at this point. May I ask, were you treated early with IVM/HCQ, or anything else?
The original Long COVID may just be residual original bioweapon poisoning, like Lyme Disease.
* For the inevitable unresolved sake of discussion: the original bioweapon may be virus like particles, infectious clones, lab created toxins modeled on a virus, mixed in with strains of a real virus to be found in a couple of locations across the world (after being purposely deployed).
But this would not create a pandemic, per Yeadon or Sasha or JJ.
Of course for those who trust the Monster, it will loop the vaccine injuries into the mix as "virus", and since the "vaccines" are just Bioweapon Round Two, they can code switch back and forth as needed.
Always absolving Bioweapon #2, the "vaccine"
In Summer, 2021, Comedian Jimmy Dore was injection injured and used to report that his doctor was seeing the precise same symptoms from injection injury with "long Covid" non-injected.
The Spike protein itself is toxic (ex. destruction of vascular endothelial cells, interference with DNA repair, etc.).
Depending on the scholar, the number of Spike proteins produced by infection ≒ 1 billion to 10 billion, and the number produced in the body by inoculation ≒ 1 trillion to 10 trillion.
Therefore, vaccination is 7,000 times worse than natural infection on root square average.
Okay I have a lot to say on this so I'm gonna try keep it short.
I think long covid is another family member of a class of illness I have spent the last decade studying. Which includes my own condition - Chronic fatigue syndrome. And a few others like Gulf war syndrome, fibromyalgia and chronic Lyme disease
There are three major theories that underpin these ailments and viruses (or proteins from viruses) are not necessarily all of them.
1) Mitochondrial DNA damage
2) A new type of autoimmune syndrome related to cytokine release and cellular autophagy.
3) Retroviral and epigenetic changes.
I lean heavily towards the first as the underlying cause of disease but I cannot rule out the others either. Although I suspect it is less likely to be the third.
Spike protein from the alpha variant can damage mitochondrial DNA. Just like the vaccine spike protein appears to too.
Just like ciprofloxacin can if you look at 'floxed' as a side effect.
Just like the bacteria that causes Lyme disease can hide inside cells rubbing shoulders and damaging the mitochondria there too. See a common theme arising?
The trouble is, with genotoxic processes (including those to do with mitochondrial DNA). A cause can have a long incubation period. Or it could present quickly. There is no one sized fits all rule.
Just like we see with asbestos or dioxins or any number of carcinogens, mutagens or teratogenic toxins.
Another thing with these illnesses. An infection might appear to start the syndrome. Eg you get covid and then have long covid. But also the inflammatory process as the body fights the infection could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Another example is why PEM (post exertional malaise) is common with these syndromes.
So you exercise... Causing a small amount of tissue damage, creating new nerve pathways and all that other good stuff, the body in the process of fortifying itself undergoes inflammation, the basis of exercise is to make yourself stronger. That inflammatory process as your body heals creates the excessive fatigue experienced.
Inflammation worsens the symptoms of these conditions.
So to summarize.
There is a lot of maybes.
But it is entirely possible that what seems like an infection is only exacerbating a condition already there lying dormant.
Those who developed it after alpha/delta might have developed the condition from those variants or the spike proteins associated with those variants.
The vaccinated might have it still now without knowing it just yet, as it hasn't incubated for long enough. Until they get a cold later or do something very demanding and poof. Suddenly it's a problem.
Or, I am flat wrong and it is one of those other theories and a complete different mechanism.
I have a condition in this family of illnesses too.
I agree on mitochondria dysfunction, the results of which are fatigue, as ATP production is slowed. However there are so many possible causes for this.
I suspect genetic susceptibility to various B vitamin deficiencies creates a baseline energy deficit that is worsened by an illness. Maybe other vitamins, like D, A, or semi-vitamins like Biotin play a role too.
In my case it seems like neurotransmitters are involved too but that can be downstream of B vitamins problems.
Finally, poor gut health reduces B vitamin absorption. Its plausible to me that many of these conditions have underlying genetic factors but also diet changes in the past decades have made things worse.
It becomes a chicken and egg problem. What is upstream and what is down stream? Where does it all actually start?
I myself have a problematic gut.
Carbs (too much) and preservatives (tiny amounts) seem to set it off. Although I manage that through diet, a sort of Paleo inspired diet that isn't entirely Paleo because I still like some carbs in moderation. I've been eating well for a long time and my microbiome should have changed and adapted/reverted but as soon as I stop, it goes back to being moody.
But agree still, inflamed gut, poor nutritional absorption, can eat all the best most nutritionally dense foods ever but have low levels of vitamins and minerals. Can't be absorbed in a state of perpetual inflammation. And then the low vitamin content in your body has its own downstream dramas.
I am interested in what you suggest about the neurotransmitters though because I find dopamine/nicotine seems to alleviate it in some minor way.
I wonder at times if mine was a result of long term doxycycline antibiotics though. Toxins and damage to the gut.
Or whether it was Epstein Barr virus as is suggested on my medical records.
I know the doctors don't actually know.
There are just so many factors involved. I want more scientists to really dig into this because it's a pretty neat puzzle and whoever eventually solves it...
Wow, that sounds surprising similar to us. Preservatives are a problem, and we eat close to paleo too. My husband and I both have sensitivities, with some variation. Both of us have genetic history.
Neurotransmitters are involved in sleep, migraines, gut and gut healing, muscles and pain, at least. We started taking Melatonin over a year ago for sleep. Melatonin is produced in the gut after every meal, large spikes. Some of our headaches improve after eating for half an hour and then worsen again, those headaches can be made much less severe by taking Melatonin. Melatonin does help improve duration and quality of sleep, but liquid B12 helps a lot too. Doing both has reduced our fatigue a lot.
There's also many plant and chemical substances that interfere with neurotransmitters - nicotine for example affects some Acetylcholine receptors but so do many plants and essential oils, from lavender to belladonna poison (nerve agent).
Many people also talk about histamine, another neurotransmitter, but that doesn't seem to affect me. Although it seems linked to migraines.
Part of me thinks that if a researcher ever fully figured out migraines, I would have a lot more answers.
I’ve been reading everything under the Sun about this for 3 years - most focused exclusively on the vaccines for good reason, but would love to see more of this: how exactly was the virus designed to work?
It was designed to be dangerous but to also quickly devolve into something less harmful after a handful of infections.
This was to cause an enormous panic and then fade into a nothing, a cold, as to not infect those who orchestrated the release. Whilst superficially being able to conflate the early strains and later strains for the sake of keeping the fear alive.
Just a guess.
Cause a panic.
Use the same spike protein in the cure.
Infect everyone (or the greatest possible number) with the spike.
Then you don't have to worry about catching it yourself. You don't have to worry about getting a jab either. And boom.
You poison the whole western world without them realizing until it's too late.
I am very interested that this happened to you. My own Lyme doc related to me that some of her patients also had the same response to the jab! Previous chronic symptoms gone. Scratching my head on that and it still did not convince me to get the jab. Gut instinct said and still says, no.
But wow! Nice for you whatever and however that happened:)
I agree. I have many of those same thoughts especially seeking care for the chronic conditions.
I have been seeing a Lyme naturopathic doc who lives in another state from me. But she has compassion and understands when I tell her certain crazy sounding things. She gets it. She’s dealt with Lyme and company herself. I don’t know if I’ll ever have better functioning and now that I’m aging >65 things are falling apart pretty regularly😬.
Thank you for sharing this story though as your explanation makes as much sense as any doctor might give as to why the Jabs have this affect on certain peoples chronic conditions.
Most longhaulers look normal, and you won't know they're there unless they tell you what they're dealing with. I truly hope the incidence of longcovid is decreasing, since I know from firsthand experience it's simply awful. I've suffered from longhaul covid, which started shortly after getting sick the last week of January 2020--up until mid 2021, after I found what worked for me to get myself free of the worst of it. I have declined offers to take any covid-19 vaccines, since in 2021 I was starting to see some success in reducing my symptoms and relapses from realizing the possibility that the spike protein itself might have been playing a role in my hundreds of symptoms. I'm a member of social media groups of longhaulers, many of whom are still extremely sick, and some of us have pulled out of the symptoms and relapses, thank heavens. Before becoming a longhauler, I was taking and teaching martial arts classes five days a week, working out rigorously, and had hardly ever been sick with much of anything. I'm self employed, so had to cut work hours back while reading medical research papers to help myself recover from the most horrific disabling experience I've ever faced. Most of the hundreds of symptoms appear like rapid aging--like suddenly my going from about 60 years old to in my 90s overnight. I was losing balance, with joints giving out and balance going and hearing and vision going, and all the teeth in my jaws becoming wobbly and loose. The "brain fog" was so bad I wasn't safe to drive a car, since reaction/response time was so slow and unreliable. My heart beat erratically, and I had pains of many varieties shooting and stabbing randomly. At times, I could not walk, and often slept more than half the day. The folks I know who are still longhaulers, also first sick in first quarter 2020 are not hypochondriacs, and have tried different approaches to recover. When we're at our sickest, most of us are not really capable of doing all it takes to pursue answers and cures that truly work, that don't make us sicker.
So keep in mind that some of us longhaulers are so sick we're not up to discovering the best longhaul clinics that might (or might not) be able to help. We stay in touch with other longhaulers, who we tend to trust the most, to find possible new solutions that might actually help that we have the resources including time, energy and money to pursue. We often look normal on the outside, to the point people (including doctors) assume we're fine--and many (if not most) medical tests are not yet capable of identifying just how terribly damaged we've become. We know that the clinics are not consistently helping everyone yet, and we're noticing each case of longcovid can be highly unique and individual.
Sounds like many of my CFS/Lyme symptoms. These two syndromes (I feel)have not been fully recognized by Main stream medicine because an absolute connection to a disease causing entity has not been established(by them or the CDC). And there’s no simple pharmaceutical remedy for either one🤨
But something IS causing people like you to suffer horrendously. If we think
SARS cov 2 is a bioweapon all on its own(not bringing in the jab’s effects), then could it be engineered to not only cause death but also these disabilities?
Yes, I was definitely helped to recover by following the pacing-rest-sleep advice of a recovered CFS friend. There appears to be a biotoxin element to the spike protein, and it behaves very much like a prion, capable of truly wreaking havoc in the body, and sometimes staying in the body, including in the brain. Yes, I suspect you're on the track of what the designers had in mind when creating what indeed seems to be a bioweapon.
There is also a planetary transformation process going on that is putting us through our paces, balancing out the dark programm we are being subjected to. I reckon this is also part of a detox process, both physically and spiritually. I avoided the shots and came through the past 2 years relatively unscathed, had a 2 or 3 mild colds. But the past 2 months have felt really weird. I was sick at the beginning of Jan for a week (with whatever variant was doing the rounds) and although physically better, haven't been able to think straight or concentrate for a lot of the time, motivation was rock bottom. To be honest, at times I thought I was going nuts, nothing made any sense anymore. Going out into nature, grounding, cold showers etc. all help. And reading other peoples vaguely similar experiences (some are very sad admittedly) also helps one feel less sick, less crazy, more connected.
I'm glad you avoided the shots, and came through the past years relatively unscathed. I am hoping and praying that future variants will evolve with reduced toxicity, and also that we can find better ways to rid ourselves of this toxicity. And I agree with your sense that we are involved in a transformative process, and this is at the heart of it. It's truly been a historic event affecting all of humanity.
I think the original long-haulers (the pre-inoculation folks) are the ones that can clearly claim that sort of sequela. One of my friends' brother was sick in 2020 and does have persistent health issues that have been identified with long-covid. At the same time, I have another neighbour whose life was saved by her 7 y.o. by calling 911 when her mom was barely conscious, suffering from "stage 3 covid" (hypoxia, fever, etc.). This neighbour survived, and is out-and-about as if nothing had happened. On the other hand, another neighbour is on disability, most probably jab-injured. The jabs muddled the waters: if I were an MD (I'm not) who had the fortitude to treat long-haulers and the jab-injured, I would consider long-haulers post jabbination as "Jab-injured" first: the jabs inform the body to make the very same stuff that the original pathogen brought in.
I hope you have been recovering well, and wish you all the best!!!
Yes, I agree it seems those of us earliest afflicted also seem hardest hit. I like your thinking about stating "jab-injured" right up front and center, to keep the spotlight on what seems to be a nefarious campaign to unnecessarily injure people. The injuries may not at first seem related to the jab, yet there's such a huge increase in all cause mortality, especially increases in coronary events, strokes, cancer and diabetes--and all increasing after jab roll-out.
Thank you for your kind wishes for my recovery. I've now been symptom and relapse free for almost two years (it'll be 2 years this summer), and I see myself as a canary in the coal mine, having been an early experiencer of much of what the spike protein biotoxin appears to be activating in so many people.
Some folks I follow claim that chelation therapy (i.v. EDTA) seems to be quite effective at clearing the spike. Not many docs offer that. If you know other people with long covid/vaccine injury, one DIY therapy involves Nigella sativa (many common names: black seed, black cumin, nigella, ...). The main chemical component is what we call in the biochem business a "promiscuous binder": the main chemical in Nigella binds to a lot of proteins, including Spike. The theory behind it is that by binding to spike, it inactivates it. I buy the "black seed" on my own grocery store, that has a well stocked Indian (from "India", the country) spice isle. Look for it, and add to your or your friends diets. 1 tea spoon of ground black seed a day. I find the taste a bit too much, so I divide it. My wife likes it, so she does not. A "black seed oil" is commercially available, but way more expensive. On another note, one of my Persian students (from Iran), gave me a flaks of "black seed oil" to use on an injured knee, and it has been very effective!
IMy apologies for any horrible typos. I'm writing without my glasses!!!
Black seed oil is wonderful, a great daily tonic, I find it tastes nutty, not bad at all ... Check out Nattokinase, it's being mentioned a lot lately (Dr. Peter McCullough among others), they say it is also a great help in detoxing.
Recovery is only possible through isolation. I think the original covid messes up the immune system so that its reaction to even flu/cold viruses is different. Because I'm recovered, but if I go into a public space I always get sick.
My 1.5 cents worth, I think that Long Covid does exist the same as any post viral syndrome.
If Long Covid is worse than that, then the onus is upon the powers that be to provide evidence to support this. I want to see evidence how this syndrome is not only unusual for Covid, but for all viruses, my suspicion is that it is not.
Was it the result of a novel hangnail incident? We should all lockdown to prevent any hangnails from occurring, and force everyone to wear gloves so as to prevent any more hangnails. Also, we should encourage recommendations on correct hand hygiene...and have distancing between ourselves and any areas that could encourage the development of hangnails.
Such an informed and "expert" reply. You must work for the CDC Jimmy, and no, we CANNOT afford to ignore this hangnail pandemic. Remember, it's for the children! Also we should set a side a few billion to have Pfizer rapidly develop a hangnail vaccine. We can't ignore the suffering any longer!
Just had shingles which came out on Xmas day. I suffered for at least six weeks. Horrible. I never felt worse in my life. Way worse than covid which I got in August. Never vaxxed and never will!!
Yeah I agree. Shingles is just awful. I didn't make that point to diminish shingles, rather to point out that we all will have challenges to our health even from viruses that have layed latent for decades.
It doesn't seem fair, but it's better than the alternative of not getting to enjoy our days under the sun.
I hope you are doing better now. Sorry that you've had to experience that.
I think what Deb is doing here is what we are all attempting and that is to add some perspective to this. I have diabetes, she had shingles, for many of us, these things had far worse consequences than Covid.
The reason why they keep trying to make Covid out to be something more than it is (I believe) is to rationalize why we went through these last three years, and why so many countries fell like dominoes to the Chinese response.
Tabletop exercises, monkey so/monkey do, and somehow the CCP convinced the world that their response, against the pandemic playbook, was the way to go. Maybe there were backroom dealings, or rather, the Chinese spun a great yarn on how simple and easy it was to lock people in their homes like on passover and wait for the virus to "blow right by."
First it was deaths, when there weren't enough deaths, there were cases, when it wasn't cases themselves per se, it was overwhelming hospitals, when it wasn't overwhelming hospitals it was saving grandma, and now here we are at Long Covid.
They tried to make it about kids, and punished kids in the process. Our educational response has no excuse for itself. To suspend school, isolate kids, make them do remote learning, mask them when they finally returned, was a crime against humanity. And those of you playing at home, know how valuable childhood is, a lot of our perspectives of the world, our sense of who we are, are informed by our childhoods. For a third or fourth of their life they have been placed into an artificially created dystopia.
We've also been through all the variations and progressions of the narrative.This one is a last foothold, so to speak because it is so vague and can be explained to all manner of causes, but nonetheless goes under the umbrella of "Long Covid."
Long Covid exists, just as their existed true sickness over the last three years. But here is my question. Could we have picked any other year, focused on numbers, implemented the same restrictions and regulations, and called the origin of it "a novel disease." Each year, a certain number of 80+ year old people die, if we implemented the same treatment protocols as in 2020, would they have also lead to the same number of deaths as we had during Covid?
The problem I have with "Covid doesnt exist" idea isthat people got sick, died, and also struggled under bad early treatments.
I have always been sure long Covid is real, since I knew people who had loooooong mononucleosis, but I also presume that it has been greatly exaggerated to fit the Covidian narrative.
I expect that the same things that would help reduce the incidence of metabolic syndrome, diabetes, cancer, heart/liver/kidney diseases, Alzheimers, some mental health conditions, and Covid would also help prevent or mitigate long Covid: low-carb/keto/carnivore real-food diet, moderate exercise, sufficient sleep, plenty of fresh air and sunshine, non-chemical stress reduction...
Indeed, back in the 70s/80s I frequently observed how some classmates who had a cold/flu early in the winter would take months to stop having a lingering cough. It seemed that it wouldn't happen until some time in April. At the time I thought eliminating the cough required enough strenuous outdoor exercise to fully engage their lungs. Now I think perhaps it was also due to naturally occurring Vitamin D3 reaching proper levels.
I have had those lingering coughs myself as well, sometimes up to two months after a bad cold. Drove me NUTS! Both as a child and as an adult on a few occasions. Most of those occasions were long before Covid was even a thing. Since I started taking more vitamins regularly, it has become a far less common occurrence for me, fortunately.
I had the same issues as you described. Started with EPV infection in my teens. Took several years to get over it.
I had a reoccurance in my early 60s. I am 75 now, and still have ups and downs with energy levels. I knew better than to take any shots that might mess with my immune system when Covid started. Ivermecten has worked really well for me.
Good on you!! Be sure to get some good fresh air every day!! Even if it just means opening your front door and taking some deep breaths! My Finnish Granny taught me that at 5!
Unvaxxed here. Had 'something' in early 2020 and lost my sense of taste and smell for 6 months with viral exanthem. Is that LC? No respiratory symptoms, not really sick at all even during the acute phase just very tired and a bit hot. Found the Zelenko protocol and got my taste and smell back within a week of the protocol.
How about looking at the stark reality that all these people were denied early testament the spike protein destroys the epithelial layer of the cell and targets lung tissue. Another point who would give any credence to a Canadian doctor where was she until now? It’s always about funding and we are all finally learning how scientific funding works. Do as I say spit out my narrative and I just might give you the grant you are requesting ask Fauci he is the main gate keeper of faux research and remember He is Science!
I was working in an Allergy/Immunology Rheumatology Clinic when Fibromyalgia was first diagnosed. The medical community wanted very little to do with these patients.
My Rheumatologists would not schedule anyone with the DX since they didn't believe in the condition. Who is to say at this point? If patients are suffering treat their symptoms and keep an open mind.
Our medical system is like our Criminal Justice System. It is up to the patient to prove their "innocence" or condition. It is a horrible place to be.
I know of no evidence that Fibromyalgia is the cause of Fibromyalgia symptoms. Saying it doesn't exist is a perfectly viable stance, and may actually be helpful to patients.
Sure, doctors can offer to treat nerve damage or whatever, but it is just palliative.
I believe this virus was crafted to be especially damaging to humans, and even more so to different humans with underlying conditions. Then, those same crafters then formulated an “operating system” disguised as a vaccine that programs the recipients body to manufacture the absolute worst part of this disease for an u determined amount of time (maybe indefinitely). There isn’t any part of this situation that is dastardly and nefarious. We don’t even know what the long term effects will be. God help us all.
If I did have Covid, it was in December 2019 and a mild but lingering-longer-than-normal cold. Having a cold last about two weeks certainly wouldn't count as long Covid.
HOWEVER, I suffered from long mRNA vaccine for at least 15 months.
During the first 12 months I spent >> $10K after insurance to deal with the worst side effects.
During the next 3 months I spent a few hundred to address the a less annoying and much less dangerous side effect.
I may have one more side effect, but I have no way of knowing whether it was from a jab or not. Luckily it occurs very rarely and usually requires no prescription meds or interactions with doctors.
Yes, long 'vaccine'. That's exactly what I call it. Sorry to hear of your injuries. It sounds like you are getting through the worst but nobody should have to suffer this from something which is an entirely prophylactic intervention.
Isn't long covid the cumulative effect of being vaxed (which results in poor immune system as well as spike throughout body and organs) and then catching covid which adds even more spike into an already spiked body, which tips some people over the edge into Guillian Barre or similar long symptoms?
Perhaps, but does Long Covid require the Vax? The Vax might damage the immune system but there are plenty of other things that might also do it. Compromised immune systems are the health hallmark of our age.
It's just with all the studies out there about 99% of long covid is in vaxed. The unvaxed might still have had something wrong and then the timing of things coincided with them getting covid etc . . . Also, I had a virus a few years ago that was circulating here in Australia and many of said that we thought it took 3-4 months to be fully over and get our energy back. Many people got it and it wiped us out for a few days. It's just that it wasn't in the media.
Also, I think the governments around the world want to blame the massive increase in disabilities and sick days being taken on long covid. Deaths/disabilities/sick days are all still rising here (not even just staying at the same higher levels, but increasing). And excesses are all in the vaxed population.
Question: if SARS-CoV-2 is real and long COVID represents its chronic form, then why arent they highly contagious for the duration?
The argument is these people have had such serious COVID infection that certain critical organs became physically damaged by the alleged virus: heart, lungs, brain, liver, kidneys. This implies, on the virus assumption, that their bodies are or were teeming with billions of "virus". Why dont these COVID "long-haulers" people spread their virulent pox to literally everything with every exhalation?
The fact they do not tells me it is neither contagious nor deadly, and the "long haul" disease's probable cause is toxicological.
Indeed, chronic infections do exist in some immunocompromised patients but they seem to be rare. The rest of the sequelae, if causally linked, would be due to lingering dysfunction or damage from a cleared infection. Or nutritional deficiencies. And yes, toxicological as well.
Here’s a personal anecdote: in my job a lot of my coworkers are messed up. One of them has random blackouts where he loses consciousness and then comes back, he’s one a heart monitor right now, another one has heart palpitations, another one is super forgetful to the point that it’s scary. 2 others have constant abdominal pain and screwed up bowels. They’ve all had COVID. Some once, most twice. None of them are making connections with these vague but suddenly onset symptoms, that appear months later, to covid. They attribute it to getting old or just random misfortune. But I’d say that almost everyone I know, including kids, have some weird issue that they didn’t have a year or two ago.
So you're sure everyone's issues all started AFTER they got COVID, before that they were fine? Like you, I am seeing that a large number of people I know have recently developed moderate to severe issues, but the opposite as far I see the VACCINATED being worse off, and more than half of the people hadn't had COVID at the time their issues started. I don't think COVID is trivial and I do think long COVID is real although exaggerated, but I am fairly certain that mRNA vaccines only make things worse.
I do know 3 people who died unexpectedly a few months after vaccination, only one of the three had had COVID (mild case before vaccination). As far as "gold standard" scientific evidence, the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials showed 4 killed for every 3 saved overall by the mRNA vaccines.
Im not vaxxed and I’m one of the worst ones off. The guy that passes out is not vaxxed, but the memory issue and 2 abdominal pain ones are. I know the vax can cause issues which is why I didn’t take it, but just from real world experience it seems like I’m worse off than a lot of vaxxed people I know. I don’t have a dog in this fight. I just seek the truth and right now there’s no clear answer. I didn’t take the jab because of mRNA and case reports I read about some jabbed people, but mainly I thought natural immunity would last when it really doesn’t with this virus.
Your experience is similar to mine. Don't know anyone pre vax that had a bad Covid outcome, just one minor long term loss of some (not all) smell. Unvaxed in my circle are as per pre covid. Sh*t happens, but at the same rate as before, which in my full circle Was maybe 1-2 people per year. Now in the vaxed circle, all have had Covid, many twice or more and some are constantly ill. Every vaxed person in my intimate circle has has some weird medical issue requiring medical intervention. One cancer, one tumor around the spine, one long term on oxygen with heart/lung issues, one sudden onset psoriasis right after 3rd jab, one lung tumor, the lesser stuff includes, one reactivation of a tropical illness, one random passing out and one months of severe dizziness. The weirder "coincidence" stuff has been around 3 with tissue/bone injuries requiring surgical intervention. Had the 3 tissue/bone injuries alone happened (within the same quarter) alone I'd have thought it unusual. If this is how it is with those I know well enough to hear such things, it makes me wonder about those that I am not as close with.
Indeed it is. Our gut carries 6 pounds of bacteria. It is needed for our brains and every other organ and body function. The SAD diet Americans gobble and that killer food pyramid has much to do with gut disregulation. And most chronic disease. Thanks for passing on Dr Hazans name.
Im not vaxxed and I’m one of the worst ones off. The guy that passes out is not vaxxed, but the memory issue and 2 abdominal pain ones are. I know the vax can cause issues which is why I didn’t take it, but just from real world experience it seems like I’m worse off than a lot of vaxxed people I know.
Sure. Just a possibility. Every person has a different body make up. I just know a couple of non jabbed who constantly talk about the shedding effect more than the jabbed persons. ( I myself haven't experienced an extreme effect of the shedding.)
I hope your symptoms are temporary and cleared soon.
FLCCC protocol and Telehealth or in person visit if problems. Take vit with food. People should be properly educated as usual, if not there will always be an idiot who ODs on vit D and they put it on the nightly news and then a majority don't take it anymore. Typical Western Hemisphere behavior.
Mike, can you describe your symptoms as you say you are one of the worst ones off, but haven't said what the problems are. From my own experience with a total of knowing six Long Covid individuals and 21 with vaxx injuries, one of the absolute worst injured was a friend with an extremely mild case of Covid (she described it as sniffles not requiring a doctor visit) who is now completely disabled with pulmonary hypertension (not sure if this is from pulmonary fibrosis vs. widespread microclots in her pulmonary artery tree).
I manage a telecom retail store. But I see it in all aspects of life. Since I’ve had these symptoms myself I’m hyper aware of any sudden changes in people I know’s health. Church, family, etc. And if you read the medical literature, COVID can invade your brain, cause your body to develop autoimmunity (the body attacks itself), damage heart and blood vessels, kidneys. It’s not a cold. A virus can’t be super engineered in a lab and ALSO be harmless. Those 2 things cannot be possible at the same time.
There is a cell phone disinfecter box with UV light that many Asians have and use. I would have ALL customers put there phones in this for 30 sec before touching other peoples phones. It is cheap ( $25-$30) and easy.
It could be the energy waves and wifi around you also.
Have you gone away for 2 weeks to the beach or a forest away from everything and if so, how are things then? Important to do. Leave phone in car and turn off wifi in house or cabin you are staying in. Enjoy nature and being disconnected.
Long Covid is a shortcut to new legislation that subsidizes life/health insurance companies, on our dime, to disguise vaxx death/injuries.
That’s it!!! That is exactly it!! I am dreading my Medicare Check up in three weeks... it’s hard not to be combative.
Don't go!
Find a like minded Holestic MD or DO ! They are all over. Interview Doc first. They don't mind. They want like minded patients.
Ask for references from the Pharmacists ( private best ), Compounding pharmacies, high end vitamin stores or heath food stores, friends, online etc.
If a regular doc or nurse asks you if you have had a Covid injection say " no comment " because they are starting record of a vax passport as o 1/23 and then they will attempt to give you a billing code to inform you that u should be injected with the Bioweapon injection and they will have record and charged you and your insurance company for this. Stand up and say do not tell me one thing about it and DO NOT bill me or my Insurance ( Medicare ) for it. This is the plan to capture people through the health care system. Run the other way, look for a Doc who will keep paper folder files that are not computerized so they cannot be stolen or uploaded to a large data base. Best
I heard about this invasion of privacy recently. It wouldn't surprise me if people are denied medical treatment or a social security because they didn't get covid jabbed. I and others have already heard about people who were denied organ transplants for the very same reason. I'm doing my best to live as though conventional medicine and their practitioners don't exist anyway. Many of us are better off and liver a better quality of life without them.
people are not allowed to have surgeries if they are not up to date on covid vaxx.
Not true in KS either. I had cardiac ablation for afib in Feb ‘22 and had no issues getting anything. They even stopped requiring a covid test 5 days before my procedure (thank god) so I’ve STILL never shoved one of their vile swabs up my nose either. I’ve never been sick either despite working all the way thru it all. That being said I’m on the fence as to whether or not to lie and say I’m vaccinated because that whole billing code business just chaps my ass. And I too worry it will be used against me someday.
I plan to say "I'm just here for _______ (whatever reason) and don't wish to discuss that, thanks."
Not true in Illinois, I've had 2 hip replacements and 2 eye surgeries in the last 11 months. Some hospitals were denying transplants for unvaxxed though. Bastards!
I didn't know that! I had heard about the organ transplants about 2 years ago. Well, as far as I'm concerned. Allopathic medicine can shove their toxic vaccines, chemical medicines and mistreatments straight into hell.
Pandelis
Not true!
You made have encountered one incidence but do NOT make this blanket statement.
So, there are newer ICD-10 codes to distinguish those who have been vaccinated or not.
We haven’t been asked to start putting those in patients charts (yet).
But, alI one has to do is press one button to import all vaccinations that have been uploaded to the State (MI) database/registry and import them into the patients chart.
The insurance carriers haven’t asked us to start dropping the ICD-10 codes down into the A/P to bill it out - that’s when insurance companies can see it.
I suspect they won’t ask/incentivize us to do that, as there already is a registry at the state level and if those at the federal level want it they will just take it.
Disgusting they are reporting to a state data base already.
That MI gov is Satans daughter. Sorry, she is despicable, in such a beautiful state.
Yes, that has been done long before COVID.
Not a fan of her either.
Saw a nice pic of her with Soros.
She's running for POTUS in '24.
I hate to lie and say yes, as that’s playing into the government scheme. And what if they raise my insurance cost once they figure out the jabs cause disease? I’m actually avoiding going to a doc as I don’t want to be asked!
I agree with you 100%. But if we miss out on TRULY necessary medical care (I believe a large fraction of medical care is NOT actually necessary), then this would be really playing into their hands. We know they tend to be gleeful every time one of us unvaccinated goes downhill or dies.
Go to a Doctor that thinks like you! There are lots. Talk to people and research through FLCCC and AFLD! They are setting up a parallel Health Care system.
They are honest and have been fighting, for you the people who have not been listening to them. They have been telling you to NOT GET THE BIOWEAPON INJECTION and you all were laughing at them. They have been screaming for you to deaf ears! Each and every freedom you have gotten back...Is because of them. ie Dr Pierre Kory Testifies before the US Senate 2020 rumble.com or odysee None of you , at least the ones who got injected, were listening to these smart Doctors who knew better!
Find them on substacks Dr. McCullough ( Cardiologist, Tx) Dr. Pierre Kory ( Pulmonologist ) Dr Simone Gold ( Emergency Medicine ), Dr. Bowden ( ENT ) etc etc etc the list goes on. They get it. They are on your side. Get referrals from them or do Telehealth visits. FLCCC and or AFLD.
Thé Evils are going to trick you again. Make friends with someone knowledgeable you can trust. ( anti vaxer , anti vaxed )
Next hoax I see coming ( there are more ) is Cancer " vaccine ". NO SUCH THING. The words do not even make sense. LGB started talking about it a year ago or more. That is also how you know it is another sick joke on humanity.
Blessings
That’s my game plan. If I do get sick and I can’t deal with it myself I will go to a Homeopathy/Naturopathy/Chinese medical clinic. No hospital or doctors for me anymore, I’m done.
If you say " yes " , the next question is When ?! Then they will print you a vaccine passport in your computer file, that says you are DUE for your next one. B.Hates has thought of that!
Thé Evils have thought of that Gary. They are smarter than most of us. That is why they are Billionaires and Homicidal Psychopaths that keep getting away with it.
You have to anticipate their moves by thinking like them. This is a chess game. A regular persons immediate response is probably not the right answer to escape them.
Not going to a Hospital Based or Insurance Based Dr is best. Pay cash and then send in your receipt to your insurance company if you have one ( Not always cost affective ).
It may be best to pay out of pocket and just have catastrophic health insurance should/when the time comes. Check it out.
The evils are not in any way smarter than me or god source though.
Mrs.Mc Farland why go?
I agree with Vinnie. Consider only seeing a doctor if you have a medical issue you're unable to care for at home.
I never go for a Medicare “checkup”. I fractured my ankle last May requiring surgery and metal plates etc. After the follow ups and some physical therapy until they said I could stop going I haven’t been to a doctor since. And before that I went once three years ago when I needed an excuse to get out of jury duty. I’m 74 and very healthy BECAUSE I take no medication and avoid doctors. Walking my big dogs and going to the gym are all the medicine I need
I am almost 73 and avoid these check ups like the plague. I do not take any big pharma drugs and treat my problems myself. I believe for many staying out of the medical system as much as possible is a healthy choice.
Bravo my grandmother who was a nurse during the Spanish told me the only reason to go to a doctor is if you break a bone.
Way to go Connie! 👍👏
Thanks Porge 🥰
Thanks!
I have the same view as Vinnie. I haven't seen a family doctor in a very, very long time. Learning how to be my own doctor was the best thing I have ever done. The good news is that anyone can do it. It takes lots of reading, that's sure. More then 10 years ago I read a book written by a doctor about let's call them not so great things, the medical system does to people. And one of them was the annual checkup. I'm only mentioning it because I found it interesting. But at the end of the day, it's your call. You are the one in charge of your decisions.
Well, here the bureaucratic answer. Once you are on Medicare, there is protocol ( shocking, right?) The Annual Medicare Wellness check up is a joke. They’re more interested in your mental state i.e “ do you feel sad every day, seldom” etc physical “ can you dress yourself?” There is no physical assessment. And if you have any on going concerns about your physical health, make an appt. However, if you do not show up for these annual check ups and then end up in the hospital ( even if it’s because you had a head on collision with a drunk) , Medicare can deny your A/B full coverage because you no showed for your wellness check ups. I’m giving this 45 year old doctor one more chance. I know one of her teenage sons had a bad vax reaction. But if she is still spewing CDC /FDA NYTimes , I’m moving on and looking for a D.O. But I need my Medicare Coverage. I cannot afford to pay out of pocket.
I’ve been on Medicare for one year and never heard of a checkup requirement. I’ll probably lie to any invasive questions as suggested in the comments. Definitely lie about having guns, alcohol use, etc.
Dye your hair blue and go in dressed as the opposite sex, talk endlessly about Karl Marx, then you will not go down on the kill list.
Great idea, I'll use it for sure, especially the guns and alcohol part! Lol!
Has she required hospitalization past 21 days?
I was not aware of the “check-up”. I did not yet sign up for Medicare as my hubby still works and I can continue on his insurance even though I’m over 65 now.
I’m holding off as long as I can. I despise the government nosiness.
I just had a “survey” asking me questions similar to the ones you stated above. But this is associated with a visit to my orthopedic doc tomorrow! They state on the survey it’s a government one so I answered wrongly on all the questions. Despite having some degree of difficulty associated with each question asked, I instead answered as though I were in perfect health.
My girlfriend had her check up today. They didn't ask her about any vaccinations, but on the forms she filled out there were about 20 questions related to her sex life. What garbage. She is almost 77 and her sex life is great!
Lol
Wow-sex life? Was there an option to leave answers blank? I’m prepping for my first Dr appointment in > 3 years.
Funny how I’m now a “prepper” for a stupid doc appointment. 🙃
🤣😂😂
It is called a wellness check and it includes blood work which I am now paranoid about because who knows where that ends up-China, DOD? I will skip blood work this year.
That is so weird. My wellness check up has always been strictly conversation. No bloodwork, no EKGs, Guess it depends on the doctor.
Same here
When the time comes. I'll sign up for Medicaid to avoid future premium penalties for not signing up when I first become eligible to do so. However, I have no plans or intentions of using it. And if some doctor calls me because I put their name down as being my primary physician. As I told a lady that that happened to. I will tell the doctor that I'll call you if I need you.
Find a like minded wholestic, homeopathic dr incase you actually need one some time, you are established with one and you have interviewed them.
Start with FLCCC or AFLD they have Telehealth visits online and likely can help refer you to an honest good private Dr. Locally.
When I was fired in 2021 for noncompliance to the vax requirements I went on Medicaid to avoid the penalties. But I have not been to any doctor since my primary physician encouraged the shot in summer of 21. I have no plans to ever voluntarily present my body to the medical industry again.
Sorry about the crafting job firing in 2021 for you and everyone else in this upside down world. I think it's a good idea to sign up for Medicaid ASAP. Those late filing premium penalties are for life I read. It appears to me that all health insurance premiums continue to rise. Medicaid or non-medicaid. I looked at what health insurance would cost me last year if I had retired. Almost as much as I pay while working a full-time job, and probably premium increases every year. My group health plan has risen from $60 a month to almost $275 monthly since the passage of Obama care. And rising every year since.
I can carry over my employee sponsored healthcare plan into retirement with one stipulation. It's required that the insured purchase Medicare Part B! My employer sponsored AKA group insurance plan already already covers everything that Medicare Parts A and B covers and more. My roll-over health insurance plan would basically be similar to Medicaid Part C. For those who don't know. You get the premium free Part A coverage from the medicare taxes you paid into that ponzi scheme. Also, Parts B, C and D are your financial responsibility. Last time I looked Medicare Part B was approaching $200 a month per person for non-millionaires. I'm sure the total costs for paying 3 additional Medicare insurance premiums per month can cost close to $400 or more for one person.
If I knew what the future held. I would invest my retirement income on other things besides any part of Medicare. If you have the funds. I would suggest you visit ifm.org (The Institute For Functional Medicine). As far as I know the devil hasn't taken over that institution yet. Integrative medical practitioners can be located around the world through links on that site. However, these type of doctors don't usually take medicare, work outside of the disease care system, and are not beholdened to the disease care treatment model. I like the idea of cleansing the body of toxins and parasites. And giving the body the nutrients and antioxidants it needs to heal and stay healthy. Real medicine.
I usually get that Medicare and Medicaid mixed up. However, both are ponzi schemes in my book. I figure that one person should be prepared to spend around $500 to $1K per month just to cover their health insurance premiums, as costs continues to rise. I still have the option of just signing up for Medicare Part A and keep the rest of my retirement money in my pocket. Being that I would only use that system as a last resort if I ever bothered to use it at all.
I skipped my Medicare “checkup” starting in 2021. My docs use it as an opportunity to harass me for not taking their miracle drugs and injections and endless tests looking for “disease” to treat. Read Dr Gilbert Welch, “Overdiagnosed” and Barbara Ehrenreich’s “Natural Causes”
I had no idea LWB. Now I know what to expect from Medicare doctors if I ever use one. I hear that allopathic doctors get funded by big pharma to promote vaccines, drugs and to write out prescriptions. I'm starting to think that instead of feeding the Medicare system. Just sign up for and use Part A as long as you're not forced to take the other parts. And invest the rest of my money integrative medicine, natural remedies and antioxidants. Come what may. I'm not paying anyone to keep me sick and diseased. It's a wonder Medicare hasn't collapsed already from 40+ years of medical fraud alone.
Time for a new Wholestic Doc search and interview. Boutique Docs the best. They work for you.
They do something similar in the UK with our crap NHS.
They basically invite you for a check up to go on a fishing exercise to see if they can get you on statins, blood pressure meds and the like.
It is important for them to get you on these early interventions as this is how they start you on the path to taking 30 medications a day by the time you are 60.
They hope to poison you, rinse you financially for the pivilege and then bump you off before you can collect any pension you may be owed.
If I were you I would stay away.
I guess I differ from many here in that I don’t think all modern medicine is bad. Five years ago, I had an excellent Asian American orthopedic surgeon install two branny new hips and I went from being in chronic pain to completely pain free, back to a daily 3 mile walk. Also, menopause can wreak havoc with Womens health; metabolism, BP, heart disease.. many of these being hereditary. I don’t take any prescriptions unless it makes sense to me. I maintain a relationship with a Primary Care physician simply to have access if needed. Doctors do not have to take on the liability of seeing someone with whom they are not familiar. I’m 71, my doctor knows where I stand on Big Pharma. It’s a balancing act.
I'll admit that there have been some good advances in allopathic medicine. I've profited from modern medicine in the past myself. Luckily I've only had to deal with non-lethal, non-communicable infections thus far. And I have listened to integrative medical specialists who seem to believe that there is a time and a place for allopathic medicine.
The lies, the deceptions, the fear-mongering, the one-size-fits-all medical model, the non-informed consent are a few of the things that ticks me off about conventional medicine. I think healthcare And medicine has become too politicized for one thing. And when folks starts talking about mandates, or not allowing people the option of taking the handful of prescription medicines that are truly safer and more effective at handling diseases. It's just about totally turned me and many others off from western medicine.
Fortunately there are other options to treat health issues and we flock to those. Some people in these crazy times I hear have gotten good results from working with ethical doctors such as yourself. But in this day and time if third-party treatment is needed on this end outside of emergency care. Seeking conventional medical treatment would be a last resort for me. God bless and keep you in good health.
Yup, January of 2021 , I came home from Cabo with a stash of Zithromax and HCQ….1 Ten day treatment? $110.
Mrs. F,
Watch out, bad Doctors get incentivized and penalized ( esp with HMO) for not writing scripts and not giving every arm Injections. You will be the first to be cut loose in the practice. He/she pays for your non adherence. Our Ped actually told us and I accused her of conflict of interest. She sniffed. Then she eventually send the dear John letter I had been anticipating.
Thanks! I’ve been a healthy skeptic of doctors for decades. Pregnant with my now 35 year old daughter, I was possibly going to need blood transfusions…AIDS was emerging. I asked my ob/gyn about nursing … he scoffed. My husband worked for Prudential, he posed my concern to Pru’s top Doc… the guy howled over “your wife” being paranoid…yeah, well, I didn’t need a transfusion and yes, HIV is transmitted in blood transfusions….
Same. I said no and ate more spinach. I was fine.
They missed a $ 1,500. billing.
Tim, you're probably right about staying away from government run sick and disease care. And who can put it past these people to mandate that you take pharma drugs whether or not you need or want them in order to keep coverage? Besides, I wouldn't put it past unethical doctors to lie about people having diseases they don't have just to get and keep them on prescription meds. I suspect this has already been in practice for decades.
I know exactly what you are talking about. The first annual check up I attended a nurse looked at the computer screen and just read out the set of 'standarsided' questions. No consideration for individual life styles and body make up. Then they go by numbers (means test results, your cholesterol value etc).
Here I had a similar experience. One dumb episode is when they took my X Ray and told me to take a deep breath I accidentally unconsciously did my Yoga breathing. The result showed my disfigured lungs. And the examining doc said 'you might have had TB. your lungs seem damaged.' When I returned for the following yr, I did my regular breathing. A perfect shot of my lungs. I had to explain it to the doc. She didn't have a clue. They just flash your blood test result and go by numbers. Anything goes outside the 'average range. You are labelled as abnormal. On the way to medication. They say these check ups work as a preventative measure but it feels like the opposite, making you anxious and ill. And I know so many who stop taking alcohol and unhealthy food just before their checkups in an attempt to manipulate their test results.
Also the local authorities seem to get financial incentives for getting the certain number of people undertake the annual checkups.
I realised the tricks so I haven't since taken any more check ups.
It seems like a kind of captivity. And they collect your personal data and use it for the future drug or plandemic development.
To break away from this vicious circle is, I believe, do our best to be healthy.
That is not the half of it. So much worse. They are keeping your DNA typing in a Data base to develop race based and individual based ( if you are high enough on their enemy list ) Bioweapons. Easy. MTG came out of a Congressional Top Secret Intell Meeting and admitted it, bless her soul. MSM missed it, go figure.
Why do you think the Evils created " 23 and me " etc., etc. Do you think they care if you know who your cousin is? No. The Evils own or bought the data bases.
Find a private, like minded, wholestic , boutique Dr and insist on paper records.
The VIPs use aliases. You will be very happy one day if thé Evils win and line us all up. The less info they have the better.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions
Did you trick the Fanta Exotic test with the baking soda?
Excellent theory, Ryan.
I totally agree. Calling it ong covid is the best way to hide vaccine injuries.
yeah. i think so too. a friend was vaccine injured, couldn’t function for 6 months after vax, but her ‘diagnosis’ was long covid. she refers to it as ‘the first time she got covid’. but she didn’t get covid at all that first time... the medications she was given messed her up more, finally Traditional Chinese Medicine cleared her up.
Well at least there was some help she received. Glad to hear she's clear of it.
I never thought of that before. I did sense in 2020 that certain people didn't want covid to ever go away. It still appears that way to me.
The sad thing is there is a small percentage of people who actually do have long covid and they will probably not get the best of care because of the conflation between long covid and vaxx injuries.
If the two aren't distinguished than the treatment standard will be sloppy....and perhaps counterproductive.
I'm incensed over conventional medical treatment for every disease. I don't doubt the covid vaccine injuries, vaccine shedding or the long haul covid experiences.
Agree. This is what happens with a medical-industrial-complex that WANTS people to be sick, but no sicker.
We are just looked as cattle that need medical intervention at the expense of their health.
Long covid symptoms also match the symptoms of microwave radiation poisoning (chronic fatigue, headaches, skin rashes, heart palpitations/ arrhythmia, flu like symptoms, digestive problems, insomnia, blood clots and electrical or buzzing sensations in the skin). So the same logic applies to microwave poisoning injuries and chronic ill health.
Long covid / microwave radiation poisoning symptoms were being reported for years prior to 2020 by people living next to cell towers, smart meters, wifi etc but they got little attention because wireless technology is our new religion (and if you use wireless gadgets your part of the problem).
So now the vax is creating similar symptoms. This is hardly surprising because microwaves/ vax are both toxicological insults to the body. Long covid symptoms are basically the symptoms of a toxicological overload (poisoning).
As long as you agree that your long covid symptoms are caused 'the virus' the health system will acknowledge you. And as long as covid skeptics blame it on the vax the wireless industry will get a few more years of breathing space to completely cover the planet, by which time we will all be sick (the new normal). Cue more 'viruses' and more vaccines and more wireless to surveil the vaxxed population.
Wifi is already being removed from schools in many countries because it's making the children sick (with long covid symptoms). France has banned it. Again, this is all prior to 2020. Without all the drama in 2020 the topic of wireless pollution (and the need to abandon this technology on health and environmental grounds) would have gone mainstream.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580522/
Thanks for link. Unfortunately that paper is problematic because it refers to the alleged 'virus' called 'SARS COV2' when no such virus has ever been shown to exist. In fact virology as a field of study does not meet the basic criteria of science (ie hypothesis driven and using adequate controls in order to be falsifiable).
Also 'covid' itself has no distinguishing clinical symptoms which means it cannot be called a new disease. Covid symptoms range from no symptoms (asymptomatic).... to the flu .... to dying of multi organ failure ..... and everything else in between. It is a meaningless term.
Ex-virologist Dr Stefan Lanka has demonstrated how the standard virological experiments (cytopathic effect of a cell culture) will provide 'proof' of the supposed 'virus' SARS COV2 even when no sample from a sick person is added. He has also managed to extract the entire SARS COV2 genome from a sample of yeast, again without adding any sample from a sick person. These experiments are the controls that virologists never do.... presumably because they expose virology as pseudo-science.
In other words, virology's own methodology will always provide proof of a 'virus', making the entire field of virology a fraud and everything downstream from virology (tests, vaccines, lockdowns, masks and social distancing) also a fraud.
Over 200 health and environmental agencies have responded to FOIA requests with the admission that they hold no evidence of SARS COV2 being isolated from any sick person. The so called 'virus' is no more than an imaginary computer generated 'in silico' mental construct which has never been proven to exist in nature.
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
The only part of that paper which adheres to science is the stuff about the harms caused by microwaves. But the stuff about viruses is just nonsense. Microwaves are a real thing, viruses are not.
This is good news. Once virology is rejected as a pseudo-science we can all focus on the REAL threats to our health such as vaccines, wireless pollution, poor diet, pesticides, chemtrails, processed foods, pharma drugs and emotional trauma from watching too much 'fear porn' on TV etc :)
The problems with virology are explained in this paper.
https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition/
Virologists have been invited to prove their methods on a set of blinded samples (so far they have refused the challenge).
https://drsambailey.com/resources/settling-the-virus-debate/
(edited: typo)
Very useful article, thank you, even taking into account new health paradigm's reservation. It would be a good study to give to a sympathetic doctor willing to open their mind.
Spot on. Where I live the medical industry is not even acknowledging long covid as a post viral syndrome, let alone considering EMFs. We have to sort it out and fix it for ourselves.
https://christinekent.substack.com/p/please-please-please-start-investigating
Many of my symptoms in my mind while suffering 'COVID', including a two week long 'trip' at home before someone rang me up and found I was out of it and called me an ambulance, I would describe as being exactly like ten tabs of acid (I know exactly the power of such a dose from my experimental days some decades ago), but with the addition of very severe and very disabling physical illness. This trip experience continued bizarrely even during a 4 week induced coma on a mechanical ventilator and subsequent ECMO machine artificial lung membrane blood oxygenating machine, during which time I was literally completely lucid having a constant out of body experience which was a continuation of the trip I had started on at home, and this same trip continued even when I came out of the induced coma, for at least a week more, it was exactly as if I had been plugged into some diabolically sadistic AI supercomputer program that was linked to teams of sadistic scientists in some parallel other dimension skilled more in inflicting the most intense and extremely rapid and painful tortures and mind control techniques than anything else. Of course, that sort of experience can always be ascribed to delirium caused by COVID sepsis. But it was no dream, I still remember everything like it just happened.
Scientists today talk of the possibility of using techniques of giving prisoners many year prison sentences in just few hours punishment using such intensive techniques, I am convinced they are already doing that very thing right now already.
But I have experienced very definite microwave attacks in recent years, for instance a Conservative MP candidate visited my apartment and asked me if I would be voting Conservative in the local bi-elections in the UK, I told him that Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson were mass murderers and belonged in Rampton top security psychiatric hospital for natural life for mass murder after 30,000 older people had died when COVID-infected older people had been shoved into old-peoples' care homes with them with no medical facilities at all, just like tossing a lit petrol-soaked rag in there with them, and then a second canvasser came round a couple of days later or so, and I told him exactly the same, and he made sure he got my exact name and precise flat number confirmed, and then very shortly after his visit came the microwave attack, like a woodpecker pecking loudly and constantly against the inside of my skull for several days in perfect rhythm, like a constant fast metronome beat which could not be ascribed to the beating of my heart, or blood pressure against my ear-drums, as the rhythm was completely different, too fast for the heart and perfectly regular, not broken into pulsed beats, and then it suddenly completely stopped just as it had suddenly started, I have never had those specific symptoms before or since, but have had many other microwave attacks, but then again I am always criticizing the government online and that is what I and many others get for doing that. When I was in the ICU ward, a Jewish-named senior consultant doctor visited me after I had been taken off the mechanical ventilator, and several times menacingly repeated; "The government warned you, the government warned you, the government warned you".
The UK is an open prison now, and they are torturing people and murdering people as they wish.
Despite my having survived, I remain very badly injured, with my life expectancy undoubtedly dramatically shortened I reckon by around a couple of decades or so, it is just a delayed form of murder really.
Several years ago I was accidentally handed a printout within other paperwork that had been printed out accidentally in addition to a hospital referral letter, it stated; "You may deny this patient any treatment", presumably that had been intended to be faxed over to the hospital separately. So they make out they are letting you see a doctor but it is very often all an act, but not always of course, so as to maintain the illusion that healthcare is really still available, if only sporadically, and then treatment may deliberately be entirely inappropriate, or extremely delayed, even intendedly harmful. This was before COVID, even before I was 60 years old. Staff refused me any explanation, I had never been aggressive or rude to any staff, and when I asked why this was on my medical files, I was told only "We think it is necessary" by the heavily-built and tattooed 'practice manager' at my local GP surgery who looked me in the eye constantly and unflinchingly exactly like a boxer facing another in the ring just before a match, he was a total psychopath lusting for violence, no exaggeration there at all in the slightest. But then again, what else would one expect when the Israeli hostile foreign power military occupation government of the UK is busy literally murdering people? Of course they are going to have heavies on hand to enforce the program whenever necessary. This country, and the rest of the entire world is under attack, by Israel I reckon, part of the WEF/UN/Chabad Lubavitcher Noahide Law 'population reduction' and 'spiritual morality' program, as the law against idolatry alone will mean executing 6 billion people, though the Israelis faked their own COVID epidemic and vaccination programs, I have video material proving that, but they of course reckon they have had it worse than everyone else of course, as usual, when they themselves are behind things, as usual.
and probably, while disguising vaccine injuries, it will also usher in a new reason for medically assisted death in Canada.
Right?! It's so hard not to be cynical these days
when a death cult has penetrated the cabinets, we are in the greatest wealth transfer in history, and we have an epidemic of sudden death caused by anything but the vaccine which is baffling the systems which have proven themselves untrustworthy and seem to be actively collapsing, i think we have many good reasons to be wary. i think suspicion is a healthy and rational response.
LGB-FJB “legitimized” so-called long COVID in early 2022, which, as w/ everything this demonic administration supports or does, merely confirms the lies, corruption & ongoing all-government power grab $ giving people further excuses to file for short or long term disability - more suckers on the government teat.
Long COVID encompasses very vague & subjective complaints & “symptoms” that can be chalked up to all sorts of other issues, including psychological ones & the jab séquele itself.
I am unvax’d & had c-pneumonia Dec 2021-Jan 2022, very sick for about a month & on home O2 24/7 for 2 of those. As with any serious illness (respiratory or otherwise) there was a period of recovery, including fatigue, weak lungs, etc for some weeks or months after. But I came out of it ok, never considered that period to be “long COVID” & don’t have lingering effects that I know of. I have no doubt that some unvax’d come out better than others, based on various factors. For the vax’d, knowing what we know now about the damage & death the jab causes, anything going on there with them would have to be due to the poisons.
So how do you explain the unvaxxed with long covid? Are we all liars and fantasists?
An awful break.
No you are not a liar.
No it's 5g.
Bingo!
I agree, Ryan.
We should make our own new legislation, in our own process. Here's a link to an intro to this idea of people getting organized. Cheers.
https://markgmeyers.substack.com/p/introduction-to-a-democratic-approach
Yes, Napoleon, I agree. 'Perfect' deceptive cover for covid shot injury.
And for those stating they never had covid, so it couldn't have been "long" covid, the government will say it was an "asymptomatic" case, of which we know there is no such thing.
What I see in my life mirrors the data you guys are putting out.
What I see in my life is what all my friends and acquaintances are reporting.
COVID was nothing, everyone knows one or two people who got messed up bad from COVID, but for 99% of us it was a flu or cold.
Everyone knows lots of people who were permanently messed up from the vaccine, or “died suddenly” after taking the vaccine.
There’s probably one or two people complaining about “long COVID” but they could be hypochondriacs.
Yep. 100% what I see. My currently disabled (> 8 months!) neighbour is a wreck because of mandatory vaccination. I have a post-secondary student suffering with post-vaccination issues. Another lost a 45 y.o aunt to a heart attack. But I don't hear anything about long covid so much. It exists, but vaccine injuries vastly outnumber long covid. Long covid is a nice cover to vaccine injury, though.
Christine,
I agree about the spraying. Our white cars are coated like never before in a fine mist of metallic grey. The roofs of the houses where they use terracotta tiles show the grey streaks like never before. On days that they are spraying particularly heavily, outdoor holidays, large well known outdoor events I can see as well as feel it in the air with my lungs. And not as much at other times. Are other people noticing it on their white cars and roofs etc. ?
I take NAC for good measure and it seems to help as far as I can tell.
BRITAIN is covered in it .. my home is Suffolk is covered in it YES it exists! If you want more information on the perpetrators then look up INDIGO SKYFALL that is the name of the “secret operation” that is chemtrailing us.
Del Bigtree and RFK (the Defender) each had a segment on chemtrails recently.
Operation Indigo Skyfall
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/light-on-conspiracies/id1247812750
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=operation+indigo+skyfall&t=ipad&ia=web
Yeah I've started complaining about my looooong chicken pox I might get when I'm diagnosed with shingles.
I'm pretty sure it's mitochondrial DNA damage.
The cause can be many things. Spike proteins are only one of those. But unfortunately they are one of those and a lot of people have been exposed to it.
https://mistermedic.substack.com/p/an-unhappy-genotoxic-family
I eat 3 brazil nuts (selenium) per day for this reason. I hope it is doing some good re DNA repair and maintenance function. It is supposed to be important - selenium - to DNA repair.
Have you followed Garth Nicholson and his work on mycoplasma and Gulf War syndrome? You just seem like someone who would know and I’ve lost interest in staying on top of all these things. I think he developed some product to help at the cellular level but I’m not recalling(or even checking before I say anything here)exactly what transpired.
And BTW, I am glad(in a way) to connect with another CFS person. I stoped FB years ago and groups etc.
Garth Nicholson did some amazing work showing contamination in military vaccines being part of the story of Gulf War Syndrome. And there were helpful recovery protocols based on those findings. Worth revisiting that literature. If he is still around and kicking, maybe a Substack writer could interview him.
I haven't followed him so to speak but I have read up on his theories.
Which at least superficially share some similarities with Dr Judy Mikovitz.
I think that they have a good case as to their theories but I think it's a focus, tunnel vision of sorts on a small (or moderate) factor and not entirely the whole unifying picture.
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But I have to confess, until people really start digging into these epigenetic, organelles and even retroviral theories deeper, it's all just guesswork at best.
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It's actually incredibly complex science with difficult experiments to construct and a lot of variables that are hard to eliminate, regardless of which ever hypothesis you lead with. Because each cell has to be looked at as its own unique ecosystem and in conditions similar to its own environment. At a microscopic level.
And you would need a lot of data.
Hopefully one-day it gets done.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23734789/ In the present study, we demonstrated that graphene oxide (GO) induced necrotic cell death to macrophages. This toxicity is mediated by activation of toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4) signaling and subsequently in part via autocrine TNF-α production. Inhibition of TLR4 signaling with a selective inhibitor prevented cell death nearly completely.
"What happens if graphene oxide is in your body?
Graphene oxide affects the body by causing various adverse impacts such as abnormal activation of immune cells and thrombogenicity"
-Google answer
https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/yeadon-on-graphene-and-our-comment
Interesting. Thx for the link!
Or it could be related to the 24/7 sky spraying going on.
I work in a retirement/assisted living/SNF with loads of fragile elders throughout the plandemic yet I never witnessed a single covid (or flu) death. The deaths came after the injections. They’re on their 5th boost plus all the other vaccinations that get pushed into them.
Yes, think you are right there. I reckon that there are a few things that also contribute to "Long-Covid". They spray junk on us from above, bombard us with depressing fear porn 24/7, they're ruining our food, have set us against each other and have turned critical thinking into a sickness. Even if you don't believe in the narrative, and have tried to stay healthy throughout it all, it is quite hard to stay focused and sane at times.
Constant stressors - these are what are being thrown at us by TPTB. Same techniques that are used to break down prisoners when they are being interrogated.
All this Trans, BLM, Christians singled out as being evil white supremacists (even though most Christians are not white.), believing in Western culture, heck, even believing in science, etc, etc, etc, is all part of keeping people on their back foot, challenged and stressed.
It is an attack on Humanity.
In its essence it's an ongoing spiritual battle between darkness and light imo, seems to be coming to a head too.
Historically, I wonder how many times in history human beings have felt that the awful things happening were a spiritual battle between darkness and light coming to a head? Thousands and thousands of times I think.
Yes, I do believe it is a battle between good and evil. I just see it as ongoing and that the evil ones appear to be holding all the aces. Their wealth and control of information seems almost unsurmountable. I do not wish to be negative but I only see a power greater than Man being able to hold these people to account.
Mass murder
😡🤯
Yes and the people I know who complain of lonnnngggg COV were fully immersed in the GOVT narrative. They have had primary course and boosters, still mask, and are by and large unemployable. They will not countenance vaccine injury.
This comment is insulting! I never had a Covid vaccine and won't ever. I had a very mild case of Covid infection, never tested positive before the vaccine was available, thought it was a mild case of flu. A few months later I began to have a variety of weird symptoms that have continued for over 2 years. So I had a Covid antibody test that was highly positive. If I'm just a "hypochrondriac" how did this happen???? You are very insensitive. An RN MS medical provider.
I’m sorry for your suffering. I’m an LVN in a nursing home and fell for the whole scam that vaccines are. I didn’t want to take the experimental ones but I wanted to keep my job. Most of my coworkers felt the same. We never saw a single COVID patient (or flu) and only a couple patients passed during the hard lockdown prior to the shots. One died post her shingrix shots with a bad case of shingles. I was starting to think the shingles shot was the culprit because she’s not the first patient I’ve seen die with shingles post shingrix. Msny people complain that they felt like they were hit by a Mack truck post their shingrix. I was being heavily pressured to get that shot since I was turning 50. But I was too scared to get it.
My 2 cats died after their rabies shots. I’ve since been hearing of other pets dying post rabies shots.
I had a nasty reaction to Pfizer #2 and that caused a lot of issues that I’m still dealing with but I’m surrounded by people who think it’s not the experimental drug. With all the chemicals, medications, chemtrailing, gysophate, and Home chemicals and invisible radiation frequencies that run our computers/cellphones how can anyone believe that is natural or healthy? Because the doctor says so? Since awakening to this Covid scan I trust zero doctors. At work I’m also surrounded by WiFi galore, chemicals galore, I took previous flu shots and other vaccines (but never again)so who knows what damage all those things have/are doing. I’m trying to clean up my life now, maybe it’s too little too late but I’m trying. No more beauty supplies, cleaning supplies, hand sanitizers, OTC, & RX’s. I will not spend my money on their poison’s anymore. Yes, I look like an old lady at 54 because I no longer cover my gray hair or put make up on. I was starting to react to all of it so I was forced to stop anyway back in 2015. It was burning my scalp and face.
The point of my rant is that we are taking in and putting on so much poison that can make us sick. Blaming viruses has been their game for centuries. I know I can’t get rid of every toxin in my life but I certainly can stop buying their crap. Stop using those covid tests, they’re what’s keeping the covid charade going.
I took 2 Covid shots, got sick, got “Covid” 1 year later and although it wasn’t the worst illness I’ve ever had (the shot was 10x worse) I have had many issues since HOWEVER, I was taking ivermectin at that time (yes, I fell for that psyop too) so who’s to say that didn’t cause me all my issues (including my “Covid” symptoms) you can’t. Your body needs to purge poisons if you’re overly toxic your body will struggle.
Hair colorants can be deadly; you might try henna as a natural dye. I also remember my mother making her own walnut tincture for various cosmetic purposes. At the time, I just took it for granted, not fully appreciating her commendable efforts.
I’ve tried henna but it made the gray look worse. I’m completely used to my gray hair and makeup was never really my thing. I tried it here and there as I aged but my skin, especially my eye area would swell and itch so I no longer bother.
Long Covid exist. It is rare and it sounds like you are unfortunately experiencing what all of us have experienced or will in our lives:
The manifestion of sequela of a prior viral infection that has either laid dormant for decades or is a carry-on from the initial infection.
Usually the carry-on effects will self resolve whereas the boomerang sequela are often a burden the rest of our lives.
I understand your frustration by these comments, however I think the point is that the medical-industrial-complex will conflate and exploit long covid for vaxx injuries. And as a direct result neither conditions will receive proper treatment.
I wish you the best. I know that my brother has not been the same ever since he was infected by a virus over 30 years ago.
It is a lonely place, but he has been able to find ways to cope.
You have been very unfortunate being a victim of long covid. And I hope you receive treatment that will free you from the curse of living with something you've contracted at no fault of your own.
Thank you. I appreciate your comments. I understand long term health problems are also possible after other viral infections. I also understand that Covid Long haulers are not showing up at clinics. I suspect that is because these clinics do not offer any useful assistance or treatments. The ones I've looked into did not inquire about a patient's Covid history or experience, but are happy to take one's payment. This has been very frustrating.
This is a direct result of the PHA'S banking on a vaccine in which they also thought they'd make bank.
No attention has been given to either because it would be an indictment of their decision to make everyone wait at home for a non-vaxx vaxx.
Disgusting
Longcovidx.com; hope it's helpful
Yeah. I’m not sensitive at all.
I had a bad case of Delta and was hospitalized. Since recovering I’ve had one health problem after another. Just finished a stint in the hospital on Friday for a severe infection in the intestines. And yes I’m unvaccinated and will remain that way.
My sister passed away March 2nd leaving a 14yr old and a 17yr old. My other sister and I are devastated, she was the baby but vaccinated and double boosted. I’m not angry, I’m seething.
https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/27426246/heather-ruth-pleasants/martinsburg/west-virginia/brown-funeral-home
I am so sorry Andrea
So sorry about your loss Andea. I'm unvaccinated and also got very sick with Delta, and spent 3 weeks in the hospital. I ended up getting the Covid Protocol which meant plenty if Remdisavir, and I believe that stuff damaged my kidneys. It took me 6 weeks to recover to the point that I could do physical activity, and 6 months to recover fully. I don't know if it was Long Covid, but it took a long time to feel normal again. Fortunately I've been fine since then, with no further respiratory infections.
Remdesivir has a 75% kill ratio. U escaped death hospital. With ventilars it wqs near 100%
They threatened to put me on one. I refused. I told them Oxygen and steroids was enough. It seems that the remdisavir interfered with my kidney function, so fluid just kept filling my lungs instead of exiting through the bladder. After I began recovering, I couldn't understand why it would be given to anyone with a respiratory infection. The nurses were very sympathetic to my plight, but the doctors (except for one old school Internist) seemed unconcerned, getting quite testy when I questioned their Covid protocol, or simply breaking eye contact and walking out. Since then I've lost ALMOST all respect for doctors.
This is what happened to thousands. Who are these individual doctors who followed random orders and had no compassion for their individual patients? This is exactly how they’re taught.
Yes this is right. The vents damage their lungs. They sedate u. Then remdesivir drowns lungs and they say covid oneumonia killed ya and collect some ridicukous 45k perdeath per hospital.
Yes. That's the intention.
Remdesivir kills kidney function, leading to fluid buildup in the lungs. Stick a ventilator down that patient's trachea and it's just about guaranteed to block up with that fluid, thus drowning the patient -- even if said patient isn't all that sick. This is why they were so adamant to push these methods.
There is a word for this, and it starts with "M." I know of someone who died this way at the end of 2021.
Indeed, Long Remdesivir, Long Jab Injury, and Long Lockdown all explain a good chunk of Long Covid.
Sorry to hear your story and your sister is just too devastating for words. What did they give you in hospital? Were you given resdemisvir? I just wonder how much the treatment they gave you might have contributed . . . Good luck with your recovery.
I refused RunDeathIsNear and was given OLUMIANT instead. I did end up with a blood clot a week after discharge but that’s since resolved.
Did you have a look at FLCCC "i-Recover" protocol, the version for long-covid?
No medication is safe.
It is not Medicine. It is vitamins and antioxitives that are needed and required by the body for heathy function.
I second InfoHog. Everybody knows it works. Look at their website. They have treated and saved the most people in the world over this Plandemic.
I’m so sorry for all you are going through! Did you have your gut microbiome checked? Are you familiar with the work of Dr. Hazan? I would recommend you look into this. My mother had Delta, had GI symptoms but I thought it could have also been related to ivermectin (not sure) but resolved with IV Fluids and anti nausea meds. I wish you and your family health and peace.
Thank you. The week after my sisters funeral I was diagnosed with colitis. However, they believe it was
Montezuma’s Revenge. I did travel from Oklahoma to West Virginia by car. Plenty of 3rd world residents, will give you 3rd world illnesses. Colitis is a process, this process was instant and painful.
There are a lot of ACE 2 receptors in the GI tract epithelium. That may be one of the reasons for increased susceptibility. There has been some research connecting COVID and colitis. I understand how painful it can be and I pray you are able to get it under control.
Jean James, are saying IVM causes GI symptoms? Is this the Dr you are referring to? https://progenabiome.com/our-story
Yes IVM can have the following side effects: nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain and distention, diarrhea and constipation. And yes to the link about the doctor.
Andrea,
Go to the FLCCC protocols to get better. I would suggest getting the antioxidants and vits from Dr. Mercola's website. Please let me know if you are better in 3-4 weeks. Oh and yogurt and
probiotic pearls. You can have a virtual visit with them. I say move quickly on this before you end up in the deadly hospitals again. Best.
So sorry for your loss, that is truly horrible. Best wishes for your recovery as well.
You might look into colostrum, and if it could help. I am currently self-medicating with it for a strange skin infection (three doctors, one specialist, all at a loss), both internally and externally, to good effect.
I'm sorry to hear about illness, Andrea, but very glad to hear that you seem to be recovering at this point. May I ask, were you treated early with IVM/HCQ, or anything else?
The original Long COVID may just be residual original bioweapon poisoning, like Lyme Disease.
* For the inevitable unresolved sake of discussion: the original bioweapon may be virus like particles, infectious clones, lab created toxins modeled on a virus, mixed in with strains of a real virus to be found in a couple of locations across the world (after being purposely deployed).
But this would not create a pandemic, per Yeadon or Sasha or JJ.
Of course for those who trust the Monster, it will loop the vaccine injuries into the mix as "virus", and since the "vaccines" are just Bioweapon Round Two, they can code switch back and forth as needed.
Always absolving Bioweapon #2, the "vaccine"
In Summer, 2021, Comedian Jimmy Dore was injection injured and used to report that his doctor was seeing the precise same symptoms from injection injury with "long Covid" non-injected.
Which is why Biden or any power that be will ever fully declassify the “origin of COVID”. Must protect the little Dr Frankensteins.
The Spike protein itself is toxic (ex. destruction of vascular endothelial cells, interference with DNA repair, etc.).
Depending on the scholar, the number of Spike proteins produced by infection ≒ 1 billion to 10 billion, and the number produced in the body by inoculation ≒ 1 trillion to 10 trillion.
Therefore, vaccination is 7,000 times worse than natural infection on root square average.
Okay I have a lot to say on this so I'm gonna try keep it short.
I think long covid is another family member of a class of illness I have spent the last decade studying. Which includes my own condition - Chronic fatigue syndrome. And a few others like Gulf war syndrome, fibromyalgia and chronic Lyme disease
There are three major theories that underpin these ailments and viruses (or proteins from viruses) are not necessarily all of them.
1) Mitochondrial DNA damage
2) A new type of autoimmune syndrome related to cytokine release and cellular autophagy.
3) Retroviral and epigenetic changes.
I lean heavily towards the first as the underlying cause of disease but I cannot rule out the others either. Although I suspect it is less likely to be the third.
Spike protein from the alpha variant can damage mitochondrial DNA. Just like the vaccine spike protein appears to too.
Just like ciprofloxacin can if you look at 'floxed' as a side effect.
Just like the bacteria that causes Lyme disease can hide inside cells rubbing shoulders and damaging the mitochondria there too. See a common theme arising?
The trouble is, with genotoxic processes (including those to do with mitochondrial DNA). A cause can have a long incubation period. Or it could present quickly. There is no one sized fits all rule.
Just like we see with asbestos or dioxins or any number of carcinogens, mutagens or teratogenic toxins.
Another thing with these illnesses. An infection might appear to start the syndrome. Eg you get covid and then have long covid. But also the inflammatory process as the body fights the infection could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Another example is why PEM (post exertional malaise) is common with these syndromes.
So you exercise... Causing a small amount of tissue damage, creating new nerve pathways and all that other good stuff, the body in the process of fortifying itself undergoes inflammation, the basis of exercise is to make yourself stronger. That inflammatory process as your body heals creates the excessive fatigue experienced.
Inflammation worsens the symptoms of these conditions.
So to summarize.
There is a lot of maybes.
But it is entirely possible that what seems like an infection is only exacerbating a condition already there lying dormant.
Those who developed it after alpha/delta might have developed the condition from those variants or the spike proteins associated with those variants.
The vaccinated might have it still now without knowing it just yet, as it hasn't incubated for long enough. Until they get a cold later or do something very demanding and poof. Suddenly it's a problem.
Or, I am flat wrong and it is one of those other theories and a complete different mechanism.
I have a condition in this family of illnesses too.
I agree on mitochondria dysfunction, the results of which are fatigue, as ATP production is slowed. However there are so many possible causes for this.
I suspect genetic susceptibility to various B vitamin deficiencies creates a baseline energy deficit that is worsened by an illness. Maybe other vitamins, like D, A, or semi-vitamins like Biotin play a role too.
In my case it seems like neurotransmitters are involved too but that can be downstream of B vitamins problems.
Finally, poor gut health reduces B vitamin absorption. Its plausible to me that many of these conditions have underlying genetic factors but also diet changes in the past decades have made things worse.
Agree with a lot of what you say.
It becomes a chicken and egg problem. What is upstream and what is down stream? Where does it all actually start?
I myself have a problematic gut.
Carbs (too much) and preservatives (tiny amounts) seem to set it off. Although I manage that through diet, a sort of Paleo inspired diet that isn't entirely Paleo because I still like some carbs in moderation. I've been eating well for a long time and my microbiome should have changed and adapted/reverted but as soon as I stop, it goes back to being moody.
But agree still, inflamed gut, poor nutritional absorption, can eat all the best most nutritionally dense foods ever but have low levels of vitamins and minerals. Can't be absorbed in a state of perpetual inflammation. And then the low vitamin content in your body has its own downstream dramas.
I am interested in what you suggest about the neurotransmitters though because I find dopamine/nicotine seems to alleviate it in some minor way.
I wonder at times if mine was a result of long term doxycycline antibiotics though. Toxins and damage to the gut.
Or whether it was Epstein Barr virus as is suggested on my medical records.
I know the doctors don't actually know.
There are just so many factors involved. I want more scientists to really dig into this because it's a pretty neat puzzle and whoever eventually solves it...
Kudos to them forever I say.
Wow, that sounds surprising similar to us. Preservatives are a problem, and we eat close to paleo too. My husband and I both have sensitivities, with some variation. Both of us have genetic history.
Neurotransmitters are involved in sleep, migraines, gut and gut healing, muscles and pain, at least. We started taking Melatonin over a year ago for sleep. Melatonin is produced in the gut after every meal, large spikes. Some of our headaches improve after eating for half an hour and then worsen again, those headaches can be made much less severe by taking Melatonin. Melatonin does help improve duration and quality of sleep, but liquid B12 helps a lot too. Doing both has reduced our fatigue a lot.
Melatonin production requires B vitamins, as does GABA and glutamate. Paleo diet or similar is good for balancing GABA / glutamate. https://www.holistichelp.net/blog/how-to-increase-gaba-and-balance-glutamate/
There's also many plant and chemical substances that interfere with neurotransmitters - nicotine for example affects some Acetylcholine receptors but so do many plants and essential oils, from lavender to belladonna poison (nerve agent).
Many people also talk about histamine, another neurotransmitter, but that doesn't seem to affect me. Although it seems linked to migraines.
Part of me thinks that if a researcher ever fully figured out migraines, I would have a lot more answers.
Interesting.
Thank you, there is a lot in there to unpack.
Essential oils flare you up?
Do any help?
Just curious.
And magnesium and or epsom salts? Any benefit or changes to symptoms with those?
Doesn't really work for me but pain is not a major symptom, mostly irritability, fatigue and brain fog with minor generalized aches.
And a real long shot.
Have you heard of a book called
'All in my head' by Paula Kamen?
I’ve been reading everything under the Sun about this for 3 years - most focused exclusively on the vaccines for good reason, but would love to see more of this: how exactly was the virus designed to work?
First you need to substitute bioweapon for virus; only then can your inquiry start in earnest. Essential question: What kind of bioweapon? https://mega.nz/file/9kgXyIbY#AmRykmU_5vv9VtZ411NtGFE5zENUPLiF_PIZRVcw0qA
Longcovidx.com - hope that's helpful 👍
I can only offer a layman's best guess.
It was designed to be dangerous but to also quickly devolve into something less harmful after a handful of infections.
This was to cause an enormous panic and then fade into a nothing, a cold, as to not infect those who orchestrated the release. Whilst superficially being able to conflate the early strains and later strains for the sake of keeping the fear alive.
Just a guess.
Cause a panic.
Use the same spike protein in the cure.
Infect everyone (or the greatest possible number) with the spike.
Then you don't have to worry about catching it yourself. You don't have to worry about getting a jab either. And boom.
You poison the whole western world without them realizing until it's too late.
I am very interested that this happened to you. My own Lyme doc related to me that some of her patients also had the same response to the jab! Previous chronic symptoms gone. Scratching my head on that and it still did not convince me to get the jab. Gut instinct said and still says, no.
But wow! Nice for you whatever and however that happened:)
I agree. I have many of those same thoughts especially seeking care for the chronic conditions.
I have been seeing a Lyme naturopathic doc who lives in another state from me. But she has compassion and understands when I tell her certain crazy sounding things. She gets it. She’s dealt with Lyme and company herself. I don’t know if I’ll ever have better functioning and now that I’m aging >65 things are falling apart pretty regularly😬.
Thank you for sharing this story though as your explanation makes as much sense as any doctor might give as to why the Jabs have this affect on certain peoples chronic conditions.
Most longhaulers look normal, and you won't know they're there unless they tell you what they're dealing with. I truly hope the incidence of longcovid is decreasing, since I know from firsthand experience it's simply awful. I've suffered from longhaul covid, which started shortly after getting sick the last week of January 2020--up until mid 2021, after I found what worked for me to get myself free of the worst of it. I have declined offers to take any covid-19 vaccines, since in 2021 I was starting to see some success in reducing my symptoms and relapses from realizing the possibility that the spike protein itself might have been playing a role in my hundreds of symptoms. I'm a member of social media groups of longhaulers, many of whom are still extremely sick, and some of us have pulled out of the symptoms and relapses, thank heavens. Before becoming a longhauler, I was taking and teaching martial arts classes five days a week, working out rigorously, and had hardly ever been sick with much of anything. I'm self employed, so had to cut work hours back while reading medical research papers to help myself recover from the most horrific disabling experience I've ever faced. Most of the hundreds of symptoms appear like rapid aging--like suddenly my going from about 60 years old to in my 90s overnight. I was losing balance, with joints giving out and balance going and hearing and vision going, and all the teeth in my jaws becoming wobbly and loose. The "brain fog" was so bad I wasn't safe to drive a car, since reaction/response time was so slow and unreliable. My heart beat erratically, and I had pains of many varieties shooting and stabbing randomly. At times, I could not walk, and often slept more than half the day. The folks I know who are still longhaulers, also first sick in first quarter 2020 are not hypochondriacs, and have tried different approaches to recover. When we're at our sickest, most of us are not really capable of doing all it takes to pursue answers and cures that truly work, that don't make us sicker.
So keep in mind that some of us longhaulers are so sick we're not up to discovering the best longhaul clinics that might (or might not) be able to help. We stay in touch with other longhaulers, who we tend to trust the most, to find possible new solutions that might actually help that we have the resources including time, energy and money to pursue. We often look normal on the outside, to the point people (including doctors) assume we're fine--and many (if not most) medical tests are not yet capable of identifying just how terribly damaged we've become. We know that the clinics are not consistently helping everyone yet, and we're noticing each case of longcovid can be highly unique and individual.
Thank you for your report. I hope everyone gets better. A lot of conditions get lumped into long covid but it is definitely real.
Sounds like many of my CFS/Lyme symptoms. These two syndromes (I feel)have not been fully recognized by Main stream medicine because an absolute connection to a disease causing entity has not been established(by them or the CDC). And there’s no simple pharmaceutical remedy for either one🤨
But something IS causing people like you to suffer horrendously. If we think
SARS cov 2 is a bioweapon all on its own(not bringing in the jab’s effects), then could it be engineered to not only cause death but also these disabilities?
Yes, I was definitely helped to recover by following the pacing-rest-sleep advice of a recovered CFS friend. There appears to be a biotoxin element to the spike protein, and it behaves very much like a prion, capable of truly wreaking havoc in the body, and sometimes staying in the body, including in the brain. Yes, I suspect you're on the track of what the designers had in mind when creating what indeed seems to be a bioweapon.
There is also a planetary transformation process going on that is putting us through our paces, balancing out the dark programm we are being subjected to. I reckon this is also part of a detox process, both physically and spiritually. I avoided the shots and came through the past 2 years relatively unscathed, had a 2 or 3 mild colds. But the past 2 months have felt really weird. I was sick at the beginning of Jan for a week (with whatever variant was doing the rounds) and although physically better, haven't been able to think straight or concentrate for a lot of the time, motivation was rock bottom. To be honest, at times I thought I was going nuts, nothing made any sense anymore. Going out into nature, grounding, cold showers etc. all help. And reading other peoples vaguely similar experiences (some are very sad admittedly) also helps one feel less sick, less crazy, more connected.
I'm glad you avoided the shots, and came through the past years relatively unscathed. I am hoping and praying that future variants will evolve with reduced toxicity, and also that we can find better ways to rid ourselves of this toxicity. And I agree with your sense that we are involved in a transformative process, and this is at the heart of it. It's truly been a historic event affecting all of humanity.
Hey Cynthia,
I think the original long-haulers (the pre-inoculation folks) are the ones that can clearly claim that sort of sequela. One of my friends' brother was sick in 2020 and does have persistent health issues that have been identified with long-covid. At the same time, I have another neighbour whose life was saved by her 7 y.o. by calling 911 when her mom was barely conscious, suffering from "stage 3 covid" (hypoxia, fever, etc.). This neighbour survived, and is out-and-about as if nothing had happened. On the other hand, another neighbour is on disability, most probably jab-injured. The jabs muddled the waters: if I were an MD (I'm not) who had the fortitude to treat long-haulers and the jab-injured, I would consider long-haulers post jabbination as "Jab-injured" first: the jabs inform the body to make the very same stuff that the original pathogen brought in.
I hope you have been recovering well, and wish you all the best!!!
Yes, I agree it seems those of us earliest afflicted also seem hardest hit. I like your thinking about stating "jab-injured" right up front and center, to keep the spotlight on what seems to be a nefarious campaign to unnecessarily injure people. The injuries may not at first seem related to the jab, yet there's such a huge increase in all cause mortality, especially increases in coronary events, strokes, cancer and diabetes--and all increasing after jab roll-out.
Thank you for your kind wishes for my recovery. I've now been symptom and relapse free for almost two years (it'll be 2 years this summer), and I see myself as a canary in the coal mine, having been an early experiencer of much of what the spike protein biotoxin appears to be activating in so many people.
Some folks I follow claim that chelation therapy (i.v. EDTA) seems to be quite effective at clearing the spike. Not many docs offer that. If you know other people with long covid/vaccine injury, one DIY therapy involves Nigella sativa (many common names: black seed, black cumin, nigella, ...). The main chemical component is what we call in the biochem business a "promiscuous binder": the main chemical in Nigella binds to a lot of proteins, including Spike. The theory behind it is that by binding to spike, it inactivates it. I buy the "black seed" on my own grocery store, that has a well stocked Indian (from "India", the country) spice isle. Look for it, and add to your or your friends diets. 1 tea spoon of ground black seed a day. I find the taste a bit too much, so I divide it. My wife likes it, so she does not. A "black seed oil" is commercially available, but way more expensive. On another note, one of my Persian students (from Iran), gave me a flaks of "black seed oil" to use on an injured knee, and it has been very effective!
IMy apologies for any horrible typos. I'm writing without my glasses!!!
Black seed oil is wonderful, a great daily tonic, I find it tastes nutty, not bad at all ... Check out Nattokinase, it's being mentioned a lot lately (Dr. Peter McCullough among others), they say it is also a great help in detoxing.
Yes, 2020 long haulers are clearly worse hit.
I am one of these people.
Recovery is only possible through isolation. I think the original covid messes up the immune system so that its reaction to even flu/cold viruses is different. Because I'm recovered, but if I go into a public space I always get sick.
Sounds like many cases of CFS and similar illnesses where the sufferers are very active, driven, high achievers who get their ass kicked.
My 1.5 cents worth, I think that Long Covid does exist the same as any post viral syndrome.
If Long Covid is worse than that, then the onus is upon the powers that be to provide evidence to support this. I want to see evidence how this syndrome is not only unusual for Covid, but for all viruses, my suspicion is that it is not.
Looooong chicken pox...er...shingles.
I have Long Diabetes.
I've had long hang nail. Ouch that hurt!
Was it the result of a novel hangnail incident? We should all lockdown to prevent any hangnails from occurring, and force everyone to wear gloves so as to prevent any more hangnails. Also, we should encourage recommendations on correct hand hygiene...and have distancing between ourselves and any areas that could encourage the development of hangnails.
Such an informed and "expert" reply. You must work for the CDC Jimmy, and no, we CANNOT afford to ignore this hangnail pandemic. Remember, it's for the children! Also we should set a side a few billion to have Pfizer rapidly develop a hangnail vaccine. We can't ignore the suffering any longer!
If there is one thing I know, it's hangnails. We can't ignore how unsafe a hangnail can become. It could lead to infection, and serious symptoms.
Just had shingles which came out on Xmas day. I suffered for at least six weeks. Horrible. I never felt worse in my life. Way worse than covid which I got in August. Never vaxxed and never will!!
Yeah I agree. Shingles is just awful. I didn't make that point to diminish shingles, rather to point out that we all will have challenges to our health even from viruses that have layed latent for decades.
It doesn't seem fair, but it's better than the alternative of not getting to enjoy our days under the sun.
I hope you are doing better now. Sorry that you've had to experience that.
I think what Deb is doing here is what we are all attempting and that is to add some perspective to this. I have diabetes, she had shingles, for many of us, these things had far worse consequences than Covid.
The reason why they keep trying to make Covid out to be something more than it is (I believe) is to rationalize why we went through these last three years, and why so many countries fell like dominoes to the Chinese response.
Tabletop exercises, monkey so/monkey do, and somehow the CCP convinced the world that their response, against the pandemic playbook, was the way to go. Maybe there were backroom dealings, or rather, the Chinese spun a great yarn on how simple and easy it was to lock people in their homes like on passover and wait for the virus to "blow right by."
First it was deaths, when there weren't enough deaths, there were cases, when it wasn't cases themselves per se, it was overwhelming hospitals, when it wasn't overwhelming hospitals it was saving grandma, and now here we are at Long Covid.
They tried to make it about kids, and punished kids in the process. Our educational response has no excuse for itself. To suspend school, isolate kids, make them do remote learning, mask them when they finally returned, was a crime against humanity. And those of you playing at home, know how valuable childhood is, a lot of our perspectives of the world, our sense of who we are, are informed by our childhoods. For a third or fourth of their life they have been placed into an artificially created dystopia.
We've also been through all the variations and progressions of the narrative.This one is a last foothold, so to speak because it is so vague and can be explained to all manner of causes, but nonetheless goes under the umbrella of "Long Covid."
Long Covid exists, just as their existed true sickness over the last three years. But here is my question. Could we have picked any other year, focused on numbers, implemented the same restrictions and regulations, and called the origin of it "a novel disease." Each year, a certain number of 80+ year old people die, if we implemented the same treatment protocols as in 2020, would they have also lead to the same number of deaths as we had during Covid?
The problem I have with "Covid doesnt exist" idea isthat people got sick, died, and also struggled under bad early treatments.
Agree. Well said
BINGO. Sequelae are more common that most people think for plenty of other viruses, bacteria, etc.
I have always been sure long Covid is real, since I knew people who had loooooong mononucleosis, but I also presume that it has been greatly exaggerated to fit the Covidian narrative.
I expect that the same things that would help reduce the incidence of metabolic syndrome, diabetes, cancer, heart/liver/kidney diseases, Alzheimers, some mental health conditions, and Covid would also help prevent or mitigate long Covid: low-carb/keto/carnivore real-food diet, moderate exercise, sufficient sleep, plenty of fresh air and sunshine, non-chemical stress reduction...
It took me nearly 6 months to recover from mono when I was 22 in the prime of my life.
I hate to say it; but this is the cost of doing business in a universe where evolution is the driver of life.
Viruses have 3.5 billion year head start, and we're just one ingredient in their "soup".
Survival and health are not a birthright for a species. We are only given the "right" to struggle.
Yes. All this and it’s the key to a joy in life and liberty. Plus faith and strength in God, who can remove fear and cover us with peace.
Amen!
Indeed, back in the 70s/80s I frequently observed how some classmates who had a cold/flu early in the winter would take months to stop having a lingering cough. It seemed that it wouldn't happen until some time in April. At the time I thought eliminating the cough required enough strenuous outdoor exercise to fully engage their lungs. Now I think perhaps it was also due to naturally occurring Vitamin D3 reaching proper levels.
I have had those lingering coughs myself as well, sometimes up to two months after a bad cold. Drove me NUTS! Both as a child and as an adult on a few occasions. Most of those occasions were long before Covid was even a thing. Since I started taking more vitamins regularly, it has become a far less common occurrence for me, fortunately.
I had the same issues as you described. Started with EPV infection in my teens. Took several years to get over it.
I had a reoccurance in my early 60s. I am 75 now, and still have ups and downs with energy levels. I knew better than to take any shots that might mess with my immune system when Covid started. Ivermecten has worked really well for me.
Good on you!! Be sure to get some good fresh air every day!! Even if it just means opening your front door and taking some deep breaths! My Finnish Granny taught me that at 5!
Sorry, I meant ÈBV infection.
Epstein Barr. 85% of the population tests positive. It’s how your immune system handles it.
Indeed, it's been around since practically forever.
I do not know a single unvaxxed person with long covid. I know plenty vax injured.
I know one (who got vaxed later but it is not clinically relevant)
Here is one. Probably Delta in 2020. Unvaxxed. They exist.
I don't know one either. But I know so many that have vax injuries that it should shock every doctor that still promotes this toxic shots.
Unvaxxed here. Had 'something' in early 2020 and lost my sense of taste and smell for 6 months with viral exanthem. Is that LC? No respiratory symptoms, not really sick at all even during the acute phase just very tired and a bit hot. Found the Zelenko protocol and got my taste and smell back within a week of the protocol.
never vaxed, long covid in 2020, still can't go outside
How about looking at the stark reality that all these people were denied early testament the spike protein destroys the epithelial layer of the cell and targets lung tissue. Another point who would give any credence to a Canadian doctor where was she until now? It’s always about funding and we are all finally learning how scientific funding works. Do as I say spit out my narrative and I just might give you the grant you are requesting ask Fauci he is the main gate keeper of faux research and remember He is Science!
Agree and would like to add that it's also about fear and control.
I was working in an Allergy/Immunology Rheumatology Clinic when Fibromyalgia was first diagnosed. The medical community wanted very little to do with these patients.
My Rheumatologists would not schedule anyone with the DX since they didn't believe in the condition. Who is to say at this point? If patients are suffering treat their symptoms and keep an open mind.
Our medical system is like our Criminal Justice System. It is up to the patient to prove their "innocence" or condition. It is a horrible place to be.
I know of no evidence that Fibromyalgia is the cause of Fibromyalgia symptoms. Saying it doesn't exist is a perfectly viable stance, and may actually be helpful to patients.
Sure, doctors can offer to treat nerve damage or whatever, but it is just palliative.
I believe this virus was crafted to be especially damaging to humans, and even more so to different humans with underlying conditions. Then, those same crafters then formulated an “operating system” disguised as a vaccine that programs the recipients body to manufacture the absolute worst part of this disease for an u determined amount of time (maybe indefinitely). There isn’t any part of this situation that is dastardly and nefarious. We don’t even know what the long term effects will be. God help us all.
If I did have Covid, it was in December 2019 and a mild but lingering-longer-than-normal cold. Having a cold last about two weeks certainly wouldn't count as long Covid.
HOWEVER, I suffered from long mRNA vaccine for at least 15 months.
During the first 12 months I spent >> $10K after insurance to deal with the worst side effects.
During the next 3 months I spent a few hundred to address the a less annoying and much less dangerous side effect.
I may have one more side effect, but I have no way of knowing whether it was from a jab or not. Luckily it occurs very rarely and usually requires no prescription meds or interactions with doctors.
I am so sorry. Get well soon.
Yes, long 'vaccine'. That's exactly what I call it. Sorry to hear of your injuries. It sounds like you are getting through the worst but nobody should have to suffer this from something which is an entirely prophylactic intervention.
Isn't long covid the cumulative effect of being vaxed (which results in poor immune system as well as spike throughout body and organs) and then catching covid which adds even more spike into an already spiked body, which tips some people over the edge into Guillian Barre or similar long symptoms?
Perhaps, but does Long Covid require the Vax? The Vax might damage the immune system but there are plenty of other things that might also do it. Compromised immune systems are the health hallmark of our age.
It's just with all the studies out there about 99% of long covid is in vaxed. The unvaxed might still have had something wrong and then the timing of things coincided with them getting covid etc . . . Also, I had a virus a few years ago that was circulating here in Australia and many of said that we thought it took 3-4 months to be fully over and get our energy back. Many people got it and it wiped us out for a few days. It's just that it wasn't in the media.
Also, I think the governments around the world want to blame the massive increase in disabilities and sick days being taken on long covid. Deaths/disabilities/sick days are all still rising here (not even just staying at the same higher levels, but increasing). And excesses are all in the vaxed population.
COVID can also damage the immune system, but not nearly as efficiently as the "vax".
Question: if SARS-CoV-2 is real and long COVID represents its chronic form, then why arent they highly contagious for the duration?
The argument is these people have had such serious COVID infection that certain critical organs became physically damaged by the alleged virus: heart, lungs, brain, liver, kidneys. This implies, on the virus assumption, that their bodies are or were teeming with billions of "virus". Why dont these COVID "long-haulers" people spread their virulent pox to literally everything with every exhalation?
The fact they do not tells me it is neither contagious nor deadly, and the "long haul" disease's probable cause is toxicological.
Indeed, chronic infections do exist in some immunocompromised patients but they seem to be rare. The rest of the sequelae, if causally linked, would be due to lingering dysfunction or damage from a cleared infection. Or nutritional deficiencies. And yes, toxicological as well.
Here’s a personal anecdote: in my job a lot of my coworkers are messed up. One of them has random blackouts where he loses consciousness and then comes back, he’s one a heart monitor right now, another one has heart palpitations, another one is super forgetful to the point that it’s scary. 2 others have constant abdominal pain and screwed up bowels. They’ve all had COVID. Some once, most twice. None of them are making connections with these vague but suddenly onset symptoms, that appear months later, to covid. They attribute it to getting old or just random misfortune. But I’d say that almost everyone I know, including kids, have some weird issue that they didn’t have a year or two ago.
Mike, thanks for sharing and for highlighting vax status in your replies below
So you're sure everyone's issues all started AFTER they got COVID, before that they were fine? Like you, I am seeing that a large number of people I know have recently developed moderate to severe issues, but the opposite as far I see the VACCINATED being worse off, and more than half of the people hadn't had COVID at the time their issues started. I don't think COVID is trivial and I do think long COVID is real although exaggerated, but I am fairly certain that mRNA vaccines only make things worse.
I do know 3 people who died unexpectedly a few months after vaccination, only one of the three had had COVID (mild case before vaccination). As far as "gold standard" scientific evidence, the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials showed 4 killed for every 3 saved overall by the mRNA vaccines.
Were any of them jabbed, by any chance?
Im not vaxxed and I’m one of the worst ones off. The guy that passes out is not vaxxed, but the memory issue and 2 abdominal pain ones are. I know the vax can cause issues which is why I didn’t take it, but just from real world experience it seems like I’m worse off than a lot of vaxxed people I know. I don’t have a dog in this fight. I just seek the truth and right now there’s no clear answer. I didn’t take the jab because of mRNA and case reports I read about some jabbed people, but mainly I thought natural immunity would last when it really doesn’t with this virus.
Your experience is similar to mine. Don't know anyone pre vax that had a bad Covid outcome, just one minor long term loss of some (not all) smell. Unvaxed in my circle are as per pre covid. Sh*t happens, but at the same rate as before, which in my full circle Was maybe 1-2 people per year. Now in the vaxed circle, all have had Covid, many twice or more and some are constantly ill. Every vaxed person in my intimate circle has has some weird medical issue requiring medical intervention. One cancer, one tumor around the spine, one long term on oxygen with heart/lung issues, one sudden onset psoriasis right after 3rd jab, one lung tumor, the lesser stuff includes, one reactivation of a tropical illness, one random passing out and one months of severe dizziness. The weirder "coincidence" stuff has been around 3 with tissue/bone injuries requiring surgical intervention. Had the 3 tissue/bone injuries alone happened (within the same quarter) alone I'd have thought it unusual. If this is how it is with those I know well enough to hear such things, it makes me wonder about those that I am not as close with.
That’s quite a lot going on in your circle. If this smaller circle is so f’d up—yes, consider the wider world. We are in big trouble.
The gut’s health status seems to play a role. Dr Sabine Hazan seems to be most knowledgeable about this subject.
Indeed it is. Our gut carries 6 pounds of bacteria. It is needed for our brains and every other organ and body function. The SAD diet Americans gobble and that killer food pyramid has much to do with gut disregulation. And most chronic disease. Thanks for passing on Dr Hazans name.
Are they vaxxed?
Im not vaxxed and I’m one of the worst ones off. The guy that passes out is not vaxxed, but the memory issue and 2 abdominal pain ones are. I know the vax can cause issues which is why I didn’t take it, but just from real world experience it seems like I’m worse off than a lot of vaxxed people I know.
Any possibility of being exposed to the shedding from the jabbed people?
I guess. But that seems far fetched to me. Plus why would it affect me more than actual spike producing machine (the person who’s vaccinated)
Sure. Just a possibility. Every person has a different body make up. I just know a couple of non jabbed who constantly talk about the shedding effect more than the jabbed persons. ( I myself haven't experienced an extreme effect of the shedding.)
I hope your symptoms are temporary and cleared soon.
A lot of people are taking multiple random supplements, some of which cause stomach issues etc. I’d check that first.
Aimee,
FLCCC protocol and Telehealth or in person visit if problems. Take vit with food. People should be properly educated as usual, if not there will always be an idiot who ODs on vit D and they put it on the nightly news and then a majority don't take it anymore. Typical Western Hemisphere behavior.
I know, right?
Mike, can you describe your symptoms as you say you are one of the worst ones off, but haven't said what the problems are. From my own experience with a total of knowing six Long Covid individuals and 21 with vaxx injuries, one of the absolute worst injured was a friend with an extremely mild case of Covid (she described it as sniffles not requiring a doctor visit) who is now completely disabled with pulmonary hypertension (not sure if this is from pulmonary fibrosis vs. widespread microclots in her pulmonary artery tree).
Where do you work? What is near by?
Water source? Electrical towers? Surrounded by Products ?
There is going to be a common thread somewhere.
I manage a telecom retail store. But I see it in all aspects of life. Since I’ve had these symptoms myself I’m hyper aware of any sudden changes in people I know’s health. Church, family, etc. And if you read the medical literature, COVID can invade your brain, cause your body to develop autoimmunity (the body attacks itself), damage heart and blood vessels, kidneys. It’s not a cold. A virus can’t be super engineered in a lab and ALSO be harmless. Those 2 things cannot be possible at the same time.
Mike,
There is a cell phone disinfecter box with UV light that many Asians have and use. I would have ALL customers put there phones in this for 30 sec before touching other peoples phones. It is cheap ( $25-$30) and easy.
It could be the energy waves and wifi around you also.
Have you gone away for 2 weeks to the beach or a forest away from everything and if so, how are things then? Important to do. Leave phone in car and turn off wifi in house or cabin you are staying in. Enjoy nature and being disconnected.