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Man-i's avatar

I had a bad illness, got tested for covid and was positive , also got tested for influenza because i was doutful and suspicious and i tested neg for flu. Then i had a covid antibody test and was postive and then i also paid for my own T cell test and tested positive for that. So my body was infected with and recovered from infection with C19 and i was never vaxxed before or since

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Gerard Waters's avatar

During the winter of 19/20 I as a very busy GP in Ireland saw no viral illness of any increased pathogenicity over and above my previous 40 winters. In fact it was probably less busy but hard to judge given the dystopian Covid propaganda.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Thank you for this post, so what would be your response to those that say "there is no Covid?" Just for context, I believe I've had Covid twice, the first time in February of 2020 and then again December of the same year. I was never tested though, and never felt that I should be tested since I didn't think of myself in imminent danger. I am in my fifties, have diabetes and a-fib, and remember both incursions as having flu like symptoms...but also dealt with the lingering smell/taste issue.

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Bet Rob's avatar

The smell/taste issue isn't unique to COVID. I had smell loss from a diagnosed case of influenza in January 2018. It took 3-4 months for most scents/odors to return completely, except for coffee (18 months). Even a cold can cause anosmia or hyposmia (reduced/weak sense of smell) if the virus attacks the olfactory nerve.

Pre-COVID, most people who suffered smell loss didn't talk about it. No one understands unless they've had it, and anosmia wasn't something that normally came up in conversation. The estimated prevalence of anosmia for all causes combined (TBI, chemical damage, Parkinson's disease, brain tumor, there are others) was about 5%.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Thanks for sharing that. I don't find that information surprising. So, unless I am mistaken, you are saying that Covid was real, but isn't all that novel, even the unusual symptoms that were reported like the loss of smell/taste. That mainly the difference was who it affected

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Tsubion's avatar

Covid is not real because SARS is not real. You can't label a bunch of symptoms (even if novel) on something that has not been proven to exist.

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Bet Rob's avatar

I'd say that's a fair description. COVID isn't flu or a cold, but it can be flu-like or cold-like.

My first round with COVID in November 2020 resembled a weird cold, with fever around 101F the first couple of days, then afternoon temps around 99.5F for the next week. I had smell loss lasting 6-8 weeks.

Second round of COVID in January 2022 was little more than a really annoying runny nose for a week, and menopause-like night sweats a couple of nights. No fever. Didn't bother getting tested, since my office was already working from home for the month. But I did take an antibody test a couple of weeks after I recovered, that turned positive real quick.

My husband had a lot harder time with original COVID. He's older, overweight, diabetic, and had had sarcoidosis in his lungs years ago. He ended up in the hospital with COVID pneumonia for almost a week (no ventilator). He's never had regular pneumonia, whether on its own or secondary to flu. Second round of COVID for him was much milder. We gave him "vitamins" H & I (if you get my drift) along with zinc and supplements, and he was fine.

I totally don't get the wild claims that viruses in general aren't real because they've "never been isolated" or "scientists can't prove they exist." There doesn't seem to be any amount or type of data or other evidence that would ever convince these non-scientists, any more than you can get flat-earthers to understand that the earth is a sphere, or demonstrate to moon-landing deniers that the US really did put men on the moon in 1969.

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Tsubion's avatar

There is no scientific evidence that any virus actually exists. Virology uses simple tricks to create the illusion that they do. But that's all. They have also never proven that the virii in question (inert proteins and other cell debris) actually cause disease or transmit said disease from one organism to another. It's just superstition and mythology. People get sick for other reasons. The 2019 flu shots already carried new ingredients that were causing more than the usual level of vaccine adverse effects. Many people are sensitive to these ingredients and they are being added to all future jabs as standard. It obviously doesn't help if people are already in poor health when these operations are rolled out. The weakest will drop first.

If you don't get the "wild claims" I suggest you read the history of virology and vaccines from the many authors that have carefully detailed how we've been lied to for the past 100 years. The fact that you still believe any kind of testing for covid actually tells you whether you have some of the fictitious virus particles swimming around inside you or not shows that you still have a long way to go on your journey towards understanding the depth and breadth of this monumental scam.

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Mystic William's avatar

I’ve trained in Ayurveda which is the indigenous form of medicine from India. There is a school of Ayurveda that deals with long colds. Every single cold going around has a percentage of long haulers. We never talked about it. Think about how many times you or someone you know just can’t shake a cold. ‘Are you still coughing?’ ‘Yeah. But seems to go away and then boom, it comes back.’ Well his can go on for months. A woman I know had a really bad cold as a ten year old. She lost her smell and it has never come back. She’s seventy.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You're right about long-haulers. And we know, this has existed for most of human history.

I remember hearing about how a historical figure would suffer from an illness, and would never recover from it, and yet we think this type of thing is unprecedented. A lot of it simply is not talked about.

When I heard about the "smell/taste" issue with Covid, originally my thought was "Well, aren't most colds/flus like that where you can't smell or taste things. But congestion and smell loss are two different things. And yes, there are those people that can't shake a cold. It's been a month and the cold comes back, or never seems to leave.

The woman who lost he smell at ten...did she derive no enjoyment from eating?

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Tsubion's avatar

All the people here that think they had a specifically labled disease or set of symptoms are basing that assumption (in most cases) on the ability of the supplied testing products to be accurate and based on a real existing pathogen. Since the pathogen has not been proven to exist and cannot be under current virlogy protocols then all test based assumptions are null and void. The Drosten PCR is null and void therefore no one can say they "had" Covid based on this faulty premise. Did people suffer symptoms... yes... but whether these symptoms are the result of something novel has yet to be proven. There are many other factors involved beyond mythical virus particles floating up people's nostrils and making a few people sick. Of all the possible causes for disease that is now the least likely IMHO.

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Mystic William's avatar

My opinion too. I can’t rule out chemical spraying. It is obviously occurring.

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Tsubion's avatar

There are many delivery mechanisms for toxins being used in the modern warfare scenario we happen to be living in. Also, psychological, chemical, financial, sociological, electromagnetic... anything and everything to wear down the opponent (us) and succeed with the plan to create a global open air prison system under a digital ID.

Of course, I know they will not succeed. But that's another story.

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Mystic William's avatar

In my area at least.

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