Hey Robyn, We thought our eldest daughter might be aspie too (another new word for me) but in UK it seems the general idea that it is more difficult to spot in females and lots get diagnosed in early twenties. She ended up as Borderline Personality Disorder, whatever that is...
Hey Robyn, We thought our eldest daughter might be aspie too (another new word for me) but in UK it seems the general idea that it is more difficult to spot in females and lots get diagnosed in early twenties. She ended up as Borderline Personality Disorder, whatever that is...
Here's an idea: just don't take the $tab$hots, whether pregnant at any stage or not pregnant. Havent people figured out yet that there are some unfortunate consequences for participating in that racket which is not designed to benefit you but to enrich the coffers of the predatory profiteers? Which includes many in the field of "Psychiatric Medicine." Go down that road at your own risk
It is beyond their comprehension that the white coat 'gods' could possibly ever have any other motive than to be there just for their total convenience and well being. But once you know, you know...
Their "studies" are suspect, designed to flesh out and give a fatuous pseudo authenticity to the lies they want to sell you.
Usually bought and paid for by a corporate entity or "philanthropic" foundation that stands to make a literal "killing" off what they want the masses to buy into.
According to a past editor of the Lancet, up to half the published science today is wrong (read; incorrect, fraudulant, made up, a scam, nonsense, bullshit). The Peer Review process is also corrupted - it's all about the money. And you never initiate a trial/study you don't already know the predetermined result to.
What a crock. And We spend $ Billions on this crap!
I am an Ophthalmic Tech who started before HMO's and the greed business model. I believe that the early 1980's was the last time M.D.'s were allowed to decide how their practice would be run.
It was kind of fun back then, but I may be romanticizing it a bit.
Bingo!!! It's all part of the Great deception prophesied in the Bible for the End Times, which we are in for sure. Gives you understanding about what is actually happening. You can see it all unfolding around you as you speak
Hiya! Funny you should mention BPD. For years, a psychologist and I thought my Mum was BPD...but it turns out she's just Asperger's! When my oldest was diagnosed as ASD Level 1 (ie Asperger's), everything clicked into place. Their 'issues' all made sense to us. They were still horrible issues at times, but we could handle them better. It also helped that I had an admin person working for me at the time whose partner (+ her Dad + her sister!) was Aspie and both their kids were Aspie, too. She was a wealth of knowledge, that woman! Even my Mum said that if my daughter was Aspie, then my firstborn most definitely was, too. Even she could see the striking similarities between herself and her granddaughter!!
I do wonder how many women - especially - are diagnosed with BPD when in fact they might be Asperger's? BPD is pretty weird when you think about it, and a lot of traits are very similar to Asperger's. Your daughter might want to consider getting a second or even a third opinion on that diagnosis, Marc. Just my two cents worth, anyway :-)
There's that book: "Stop walking on eggshells" by Mason & Kreger. It's supposedly about taking your life back from someone who has BPD. However, when you re-read that knowing the person has Asperger's instead, it makes a helluva lot more sense!
Sometimes I think people have not labelled Asperger's, or even Autism, properly, and that one day things are going to be classified in better ways that make a lot more sense. I guess we're all still learning, and the diagnoses we currently use are OK - for now. But I still think we're missing a few links in that knowledge base.
Anyway, YES, female Asperger's/ASD traits, just like with ADHD/ADD, can present quite differently. It's not exactly unexpected, given men are quite different from women, not just physically, but in brain patterns, too!! :-D My Mum once answered a quiz from "Why men don't listen and women can't read maps" by Allan & Barbara Pease, and she ended up as having a 'male' brain. However, she also said that when she was younger, she would've answered some of those questions differently. I guess being a single Aspie Mum certainly took a toll on her through life!! :-\
Personally I take any and all psych diagnoses with a huge pinch of salt. I recently read Cracked by James Davies which details the history of psychiatry since the 50s, including the jump in mental disorders from 106 to around 370 today. It records the history of the DSM, their diagnostic manual, which is an absolute farce - they seem to make it up as they go along - a bunch of psych dudes sat round a table in USA and whoever shouts loudest gets their way. Mind you, they do sell $5 Million worth of manuals around the world per annum... Then, of course, the pHarma sharks rush in with drugs - for every conceivable issue. Another absolute criminal farce!
PS Your dear mum seems to have done very well by you.
PPS Our daughter refuses to acknowledge that we, her stupid parents who allegedly ruined her life, could possibly know anything and totally rejects any help or support we offer. We have just had to accept it, whilst keeping in contact so that she knows we are always here and ready to help if she needs us. So sad...
The psychiatric industry continues to be complicit in aiding and abetting the crimes (electromagnetic frequency assaults) of the Five Eyes psychopaths who have been surreptitiously and remotely torturing dissidents, whistle-blowers and innocent citizens for decades using Directed Energy Weapons. When these Targeted Individuals seek medical help, doctors label them mentally ill causing stigmatization.
My mother did warn me at the time that our psychiatry professor, Dr. Tyhurst, had been involved in the CIA psychological experiments in the 1950's in Montreal. I never did ask how she knew as she left nursing in 1953.
For some people, it is impossible to unsee what they have already seen. For others, they seem to look at the same question over and over again under a flickering strobe gas light, as they remain precariously perched on the fence, second guessing their perceptions.
Some collect dubious diagnoses like participation trophies......they need to find a more unique way of being unique....having an official diagnoses from TPTB could backfire against them in a big way at some point; gaining an official label of mental instability is not anything anyone should aim for whether BPD, ASD or whatever; glombing onto the psychiatric profession, making them into some kind of oracle or idol
will be proven ultimately dangerous to your mental, spiritual and physical health
The field of psychiatry is the ultimate psyc-op! Who the fuck determines the barometers of "normalcy?" Who the fuck has their brain molded by a fellow human being?
Arthur Furstenberg's book, "The Invisible Rainbow" describes how Freud's influence enabled the medical diagnosis of neurasthenia (electromagnetic frequency sensitivity) to be eliminated in western countries. This occurred at precisely the time when electrical lines were being erected ubiquitously.
Covid-19 is radiation poisoning which is intensified by nanotechnology biosensors in the body.
Lol, just a coinkydink about Freud I' m sure. He's One of many in the false god pantheon that could do no wrong, right? Our blind guides that pretended to have all the answers as we have turned away from God the only Creator and Sustainer to proceed down the ever darkening path that is "science" to our our destruction.....
Thank you for the links you sent, I will be sure and look at them!!
Ah Freud: And then of course there was the Victorians with their Phrenology (every emotion and process allocated to a multi mapped section of the brain) - total quackery.
Not sure we've really moved on much more since, if truth be told. Apparently serotonin level SSRIs bubble has just been burst scientifically. Another 50 years they got the brain wrong. All those poor victims...
Please show me some actual bonafide proof of the truth of the "Chemical Imbalance" theory of mental illness that seems to provide a rationale for the use of SSRIs and other nonsense Psychiatric drugs that have horrific side effects like Serotonin Syndrome, homicidal and suicidal ideation, etc.. they have been paying for and dictating the results of "studies" to justify and corroborate their agenda of expanding diagnoses and drug sales for a long time:
It seems we have an extensive history of being scammed by PigFarma....with us being the Guinea Pigs.....
You are right! My daughter totally identifies with her psych label. Ah well, at least she's not trans. But she 'got' the last fashionable one though: anorexia. Caught it off a friend - I kid you not.
Just one more thing. Do you know I even thanked my mother for her terrible parenting, and all the misery I went through? Because it taught me resilience and allowed me to get through the madness that is/was covid, relatively intact. I'd already grown up in a warzone with seemingly crazy people, so I could handle it. OK, it wasn't easy, and I still suffered lots, but I've come through it a better, wiser person. Not sure if I'm stronger, but I'm certainly not broken. It was just a few years ago when I told her that, in my early 40s. She was a bit shocked I ever thanked her for that, but when I explained it, she understood!
Perhaps your daughter will one day figure out that you weren't such bad parents after all?! It might just take a few more years/decades?! Anyway, I'm sure you guys are FINE. She's probably just not got her head screwed on straight, yet!
Robyn, You are so good to chat with - last thing, I promise:
Our youngest daughter is finally turning into a human being - at age 21. I never thought I would see the day. I was abused by her for years before she ran away at 16 (another story...) Funny thing is, we never had any trouble with our boy and they all had a loving supportive childhood and wanted for nothing (except a horse by the eldest daughter - another story...). I guess the old saying is true about children being destined to be fucked up by their parents - certainly worked for me (another story...). I'm going now...
You know how long it takes for people to grow up, right?!?! Most people never actually morph into adults, they just LOOK like them, but that's where the similarity ends. Most people never progress mentally/emotionally past their teenage years.
I think hormones are the crux of the problem. Sure, they help turn us into a physical body capable of having children, but at what cost? You see kids up to age 10-12, and often they have their heads screwed on. But then the hormones kick in and soon enough, they're turning into their parents or grandparents, in more ways than one, and their brains seem to cease functioning properly for quite some years!!
IF you're lucky, they manage to grow up some more once they hit their 20s, or 30s...or after they've had kids themselves and realise that maybe, just maybe, they weren't the best kids themselves, and that maybe their parents didn't do such a bad job, considering, and that maybe, just maybe, their parents DID actually have half a clue.
So I hope your daughters DO finally have that epiphany - sooner rather than later!!!
I also think our kids have had a much easier life than we had. Sometimes learning resilience at a younger age, whilst certianly not enjoyable at the time, makes you more capable in life. A nicer, easier childhood doesn't always make for the nicest children cum adults...
Then again, I also think our kids have grown up in a very different world to the one we did. Perhaps more flippant, annoying, angry, action-based kids are what the world requires now - because we're living in 'not-nice' times anymore, so we need not-nice children, and not-nice adults to cope better with it.
Well, I would buy your book, oh wise one. There is much truth in what you say. Is being smart a blessing or a curse in a world of so much stunted mediocrity. Covid was a real eye opener!
We've just picked up another self-help book for the girls, by a TikTok psych, Dr Julie Smith: maybe they'll listen to her...
Thank God we are still able to forgive the little darlings.
I hope your girls read these self-help books. But I guess they also have to be ready to read them...
My first book is going to be a gluten-free & dairy-free cookbook! The only wise words in there will be to do with diet! I'm making the final touches! Still! Aargh!
Next book will be a fiction book - about resilience, and following one's dreams. Also to do with figuring out family crap and in the process, transforming oneself. I'm part-way through it. My protagonist learns from things that go on around her, unlike many of the other people, and she ends up married to a good guy. Not to say she doesn't have heartbreak and sorrow along the way, as well as figuring out some intense family problems. 'Mum's the word' in the family she grew up in...so she has to ferret around to figure things out.
She's pretty driven. Subconsciously driven to escape her family, I think! But she's smart enough to figure out what DOESN'T work in her life - and to find things that DO work. I wish more people were like that. Although, I'm not sure I'd get along overly well with this protagonist. She's a bit haughty for my likings; not quite as emotional as me. She's an Aries.
As for being smart, I'd always pick it over being dumb (!) but it's been a long while since I've walked into a room and found people smarter than me! So it can be a very lonely place.
I think one day I'll write a book titled "Just call me Cassandra" and it will be a somewhat humorous take on life, possibly semi-autobiographical in parts, where people don't listen to what they should! Anyway, I've got a political trilogy (with offshoots) to write before that, but you know, maybe I can write them concurrently, ha ha...
Personally, I think I have given myself over a decade's worth of writing work, amidst rearing my family! We'll see how it all turns out! :-D
Wow! You'd better give up sleeping to get that lot done. Mind you, it can be like therapy - let it all out girl. Keep half a mind on TV & Film rights and who you want to play 'you' (1st novels are generally autobiographical, even if subliminally).
I've been reading very extensively about diet, health, and the total over medification of especially oldies. As a result, I am on a full fat, real food, low(er) carb, and eat what I like diet. I'm on no drugs at all and I've lost 7 Ibs in a month without really trying. The Docs would hate me as I totally buck their BS - they'd have me on at least seven drugs already!
People ask me how I know so much - it's simple: I read! (Too much sometimes...)
I guess I feel like I have books to offer the world. And I don't want them to be half-baked offerings, either; people need to read GOOD books. I recently read 'Educated' by Tara Westover. And I was VERY disappointed. Thought a better title for her book would've been 'Lost'. Without the 'shock' value of a bunch of highly charged emotional memories, that book was crap. Flimsy. Sure, there was some good stuff in there, but the overall tenor was quite lame. And the worst part was that she learned NOTHING. If anything, she lost knowledge, not gained it, even WITH a PhD! At least IMO ;-)
Oh, there is totally some auto-biographical stuff in this first novel of mine! You're onto it, aren't you?! :-)
I've been writing another book a bit here and there over the years, but it's an easier read than this one will be. Or perhaps just more simple. Aimed at slightly younger readers, perhaps. But I did start it many years ago. My current novel will be my first finished one. My protagonist's mother has aspects of my mother. Mostly the bad bits, I'm afraid! Her little sister is a bit like one of my cousins. And not necessarily in a good way. My protagonist's hubby could be an extroverted version of my hubby! But my mostly lovely, and sometimes haughty, protagonist is tall and willowy and blonde (I missed out on those genes!) although she is very self-sufficient, like I am. The theme/content is probably closer to home than the characters are, but there's definitely some cross-over.
I would expect most authors to base many of their characters on people they have met/known, to at least some degree. If you want the character to be believable, then you have to be able to create someone who COULD be real, right?
I don't desperately care if my books ever get made into film/TV. And unless you're a Producer, or scriptwriter, you probably don't get much of a say as to what happens. But I'll keep a thought in the back of my mind about it, anyway; thanks for the heads up :-)
I am GLAD you are keeping on top of your health, Marc! Eating whole food is a great idea. Lower carb & higher protein tends to help more easily with weight loss. Exercise also helps! ;-)
I plan on taking zero medications my whole life. Anyway, I figure it's a bit hard to take meds when you don't see medicos, right?! My Mum is in her 70s. She's on a VERY low dose blood pressure med each day. And it's taken her years to take even that! She refuses to take anything else. The medico would have her on seven drugs a day, too, if he had his way!
Thanks for sharing and I wish you luck with your opus. Personally, I have never really felt the need; I think I am more of an editor - or a critic... I spent a lifetime proofing stuff, often in foreign languages, so I am rather anal in that department. I can spot a typo at 100yds.
Good on your mum holding out too. (And of course blood pressure rises a bit for most people as they get older: it's perfectly normal - Duh!) Just don't get me started about statins!
PS Exercise - I know, I know... I have a rowing machine waiting for me patiently in the spare room... (I'm only 13st, 3lbs - give me a break!)
Very sensible to take things with a large pinch of salt!!
Yes, my Mum is lucky to have me as a daughter. It's taken her until her 70s for her to finally see what a wonderful daughter I am, but hey, what's that saying: "better late than never"?! Maybe I'm just patient in the long-term. I'm not sure that it's a virtue, though. It's not been an easy path with my Mum these 45 years. Still, the silver lining is that she's the most difficult person I've EVER had to deal with, so if I can manage her, I can manage anyone, right?!
Yes, those DSM manuals do sell. Very convenient that ASD Level 1 is now part of it all, right? Forget that ASD Level 4 or 5 would be unimaginably hard to 'parent' and that a fully autistic, or even regressed autistic, may be completely different to Asperger's, with perhaps even a different cause, but hey, let's just throw Level 1 in anyway, all on the same scale of 1-5, and it's all hunky dory, and people will pay us! Right?! No cynicism from me, no sirree.
Sounds like your daughter needs to grow up a bit more!! :-D Good luck with that. I guess I'm glad I've gotten in early with my firstborn (and suffered for it!) because she's upfront with me now and we have a great line of communication and she's getting Dux of her class AND is very sociable! Almost no-one can tell she's Aspie. Sure, it's practically killed me and my sanity, and driven my anxiety through the roof at times (I take herbal supplements daily for my anxiety...as does my firstborn...as does my husband...) but so long as we get the setup working NOW, then she should be set for life. I hope so, anyway. I swear, she's easier to deal with now, heading into her tween years, than she ever was when she was younger! At least the 'red beast' meltdowns are practically non-existent, now. They were shocking when she was younger.
Kids can be so hard, sometimes, I know, Marc. I'm sure you've tried to do the best you can, or at least a darned good job of it (none of us do 'perfect' jobs, but most of us DO try!) but people are people, even our own kids, and so we can only do what we can do and if that doesn't cut it, then we are left with Hope that things may yet turn out OK.
Thank you for relating your stories! In reading all of this I continue to wonder where the billions of dollars/pounds/euros, etc. are for finding a cause and potential cure for ASD are. The latest CDC figures (FWIW, you know, CDC) which are a few years old show the rate at 1 in 36, which may be an under count. I know numerous people with kids on the spectrum. Growing up I had one friend who may have been Asperger's but no one else I knew was ASD or had an autistic sibling. I think the "Powers That Be" are afraid of what they will find if real investigations are done. This is a real epidemic deserving of real resources. Think what could be accomplished if they stopped all dangerous GOF research and turned those labs loose on an existing problem, not one they are trying to create!
Dr Toby Rogers regularly writes on autism and wrote his thesis on it, including the social and economic costs - but of course, no one wants to know... Maybe if Trump gets in this time he will keep his word and look into it (so long as fShizer don't offer him another $1 Million for his inauguration party again...).
Why are you on the other side of the world? We could be besties!
Excellent you know all about the DSM.
Your mum sounds like two handfuls - as was mine! And good luck with your daughter and the teenage years!!
PS Stumbled on another Aussie comedy gem on Netflix: Wellmania. About a dis functional drug taking party 'girl' nearing 40 who is very loud and chaotic (but with a lovely heart). And of course her brother is gay, because someone has to be in every drama nowadays...
Ha ha, you're hilarious! You do sound like you'd be a good friend to hang out with. It's just that miserable UK weather. It's lovely occasionally, but living through it daily would depress me too much!! The only time I've been over there, though, in Nov 2006, the weather was actually pretty good! Jeans & a 3/4 sleeve top - in London, in November! But Scotland was FREEZING. I do not know how people live there. That wind goes THROUGH you, no matter what you're wearing!!
Anyway, back to your comment. I've not heard of that Netflix comedy, either! We don't have TV, just DVDs. Gave up the TV connection about 12 years ago! And we don't watch Netflix. I know, so sad, and I'm only 45! I also don't have time to watch hours and hours of TV like I used to when I was a teenager - but at least back then the TV shows WERE generally good! Although looking back, I don't know how I found time to watch 20 hours of TV a week when I was at school, worked 15 hours/week at a fruit market, played competition tennis & hockey (+ did training!), was on the phone up to 10 hours a week to friends & I played the piano an hour a day, plus I slept plenty! And I had to do homework, as well as plenty of household chores! Maybe there were 30 hours a day back then, who knows ;-)
Sounds like we both got lumped with difficult mothers. Maybe that's why 1. we are quite capable but 2. why we have difficult children. Things tend to skip generations. My kids are WAY more like my parents than I am. It's like I'm the black sheep in a bunch of white sheep, and my hubby's the same; so does that mean we only have black sheep as offspring? Not necessarily...
Ouch. That must've really hurt when your brother was given the house. THIS is why I like Wills to be transparent, and for everyone to know what's going down before YOU do!
Maybe your parents thought you'd done well enough for yourself so you didn't need the house? Who knows. Regardless, I still like to be thought of EQUALLY. I mean, if one sibling becomes absolutely loaded, and the other sibling does not, I guess it makes sense to help out the un-loaded one...but I'd still explain this to my kids before changing things in my Will. Sure, it's my money/resources right now, but I don't want it to create animosity after I'm gone.
You're right about parents just being People. But it's hard to distance yourself from them, being so close to them both emotionally and in DNA! The greatest hurts I have suffered have pretty well all been from the family I come from, except when I was 25, when I learned that 'love was not enough' after breaking up with an older boyfriend, whom I could have married in another lifetime. Anyway, some families are just nicer than others. Maybe we got the short straws?!?! Try not to let it eat you up. Life is too short for that. People are just people, even if they're related to you. And People like to take People for granted, ESPECIALLY if they're related to you! Sometimes you've just got to level with yourself about a few not-nice truths. It hurts, but it also makes it easier in the end.
Chopin. Yeah, he was a weird one. Great music, though! I love to listen to Chopin. He could've been a brilliant jazz composer if he'd been born later. He certainly had some interesting riffs in there. So few composers can make music speak the way Chopin did. I don't play much of his stuff, because there are SO many notes - and all over the place! Did you know he broke his own little finger so he could reach a 10th? Mad. I think that puts him in the masochistic realm rather than sadistic...but some might just say he was 'driven'. Yep. So driven that his weak lungs drove him to an early grave! But how these people lived in those days, and all that cold weather...it's no wonder lots died young.
Do you still play?
PS - if you'd rather email me so readers don't have to traipse through our long conversations, my emails is: drrobyn1978@proton.me
Thank you. Trouble is she's been on their poisons for five years already so who knows what that has done to fry her brain. And the last consult she had was with a psych 250 miles away so had to be done on Zoom. But hey, that's the UK's totally underfunded NHS for you. The mental health waiting lists are horrendous - and getting even worse.
Hey Robyn, We thought our eldest daughter might be aspie too (another new word for me) but in UK it seems the general idea that it is more difficult to spot in females and lots get diagnosed in early twenties. She ended up as Borderline Personality Disorder, whatever that is...
Here's an idea: just don't take the $tab$hots, whether pregnant at any stage or not pregnant. Havent people figured out yet that there are some unfortunate consequences for participating in that racket which is not designed to benefit you but to enrich the coffers of the predatory profiteers? Which includes many in the field of "Psychiatric Medicine." Go down that road at your own risk
It is beyond their comprehension that the white coat 'gods' could possibly ever have any other motive than to be there just for their total convenience and well being. But once you know, you know...
Their "studies" are suspect, designed to flesh out and give a fatuous pseudo authenticity to the lies they want to sell you.
Usually bought and paid for by a corporate entity or "philanthropic" foundation that stands to make a literal "killing" off what they want the masses to buy into.
Time to wake up. You're being conned.
Oooo! I think I like you: A Truth Sister.
According to a past editor of the Lancet, up to half the published science today is wrong (read; incorrect, fraudulant, made up, a scam, nonsense, bullshit). The Peer Review process is also corrupted - it's all about the money. And you never initiate a trial/study you don't already know the predetermined result to.
What a crock. And We spend $ Billions on this crap!
I am an Ophthalmic Tech who started before HMO's and the greed business model. I believe that the early 1980's was the last time M.D.'s were allowed to decide how their practice would be run.
It was kind of fun back then, but I may be romanticizing it a bit.
It was far more fun.
Watch MASH or Carry on Doctor and compare them to House,MD.
Every decade it became less independent and less enjoyable.
Bingo!!! It's all part of the Great deception prophesied in the Bible for the End Times, which we are in for sure. Gives you understanding about what is actually happening. You can see it all unfolding around you as you speak
I don't think you are wrong! Surely it can't go on.
How cool would it be to be alive (at least for the first bit) at the end of the world. Shame none of us will be here to record it...
Hiya! Funny you should mention BPD. For years, a psychologist and I thought my Mum was BPD...but it turns out she's just Asperger's! When my oldest was diagnosed as ASD Level 1 (ie Asperger's), everything clicked into place. Their 'issues' all made sense to us. They were still horrible issues at times, but we could handle them better. It also helped that I had an admin person working for me at the time whose partner (+ her Dad + her sister!) was Aspie and both their kids were Aspie, too. She was a wealth of knowledge, that woman! Even my Mum said that if my daughter was Aspie, then my firstborn most definitely was, too. Even she could see the striking similarities between herself and her granddaughter!!
I do wonder how many women - especially - are diagnosed with BPD when in fact they might be Asperger's? BPD is pretty weird when you think about it, and a lot of traits are very similar to Asperger's. Your daughter might want to consider getting a second or even a third opinion on that diagnosis, Marc. Just my two cents worth, anyway :-)
There's that book: "Stop walking on eggshells" by Mason & Kreger. It's supposedly about taking your life back from someone who has BPD. However, when you re-read that knowing the person has Asperger's instead, it makes a helluva lot more sense!
Sometimes I think people have not labelled Asperger's, or even Autism, properly, and that one day things are going to be classified in better ways that make a lot more sense. I guess we're all still learning, and the diagnoses we currently use are OK - for now. But I still think we're missing a few links in that knowledge base.
Anyway, YES, female Asperger's/ASD traits, just like with ADHD/ADD, can present quite differently. It's not exactly unexpected, given men are quite different from women, not just physically, but in brain patterns, too!! :-D My Mum once answered a quiz from "Why men don't listen and women can't read maps" by Allan & Barbara Pease, and she ended up as having a 'male' brain. However, she also said that when she was younger, she would've answered some of those questions differently. I guess being a single Aspie Mum certainly took a toll on her through life!! :-\
Personally I take any and all psych diagnoses with a huge pinch of salt. I recently read Cracked by James Davies which details the history of psychiatry since the 50s, including the jump in mental disorders from 106 to around 370 today. It records the history of the DSM, their diagnostic manual, which is an absolute farce - they seem to make it up as they go along - a bunch of psych dudes sat round a table in USA and whoever shouts loudest gets their way. Mind you, they do sell $5 Million worth of manuals around the world per annum... Then, of course, the pHarma sharks rush in with drugs - for every conceivable issue. Another absolute criminal farce!
PS Your dear mum seems to have done very well by you.
PPS Our daughter refuses to acknowledge that we, her stupid parents who allegedly ruined her life, could possibly know anything and totally rejects any help or support we offer. We have just had to accept it, whilst keeping in contact so that she knows we are always here and ready to help if she needs us. So sad...
The psychiatric industry continues to be complicit in aiding and abetting the crimes (electromagnetic frequency assaults) of the Five Eyes psychopaths who have been surreptitiously and remotely torturing dissidents, whistle-blowers and innocent citizens for decades using Directed Energy Weapons. When these Targeted Individuals seek medical help, doctors label them mentally ill causing stigmatization.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349881372_Effect_of_Coronavirus_Worldwide_through_Misusing_of_Wireless_Sensor_Networks
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359691796_The_Internet_of_Bodies_The_Human_Body_as_an_Efficient_and_Secure_Wireless_Channel
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=pTEXQSW4GvWr79qz&v=rMpWXsu2tjg&feature=youtu.be
https://rumble.com/v49bn93-truth-be-told-targeted-individuals-symposium-presented-by-vaxxchoice-and-dr.html
My mother did warn me at the time that our psychiatry professor, Dr. Tyhurst, had been involved in the CIA psychological experiments in the 1950's in Montreal. I never did ask how she knew as she left nursing in 1953.
So, yes to your five eyes assertion.
For some people, it is impossible to unsee what they have already seen. For others, they seem to look at the same question over and over again under a flickering strobe gas light, as they remain precariously perched on the fence, second guessing their perceptions.
Some collect dubious diagnoses like participation trophies......they need to find a more unique way of being unique....having an official diagnoses from TPTB could backfire against them in a big way at some point; gaining an official label of mental instability is not anything anyone should aim for whether BPD, ASD or whatever; glombing onto the psychiatric profession, making them into some kind of oracle or idol
will be proven ultimately dangerous to your mental, spiritual and physical health
I like your thinking, Catherine.
The field of psychiatry is the ultimate psyc-op! Who the fuck determines the barometers of "normalcy?" Who the fuck has their brain molded by a fellow human being?
Arthur Furstenberg's book, "The Invisible Rainbow" describes how Freud's influence enabled the medical diagnosis of neurasthenia (electromagnetic frequency sensitivity) to be eliminated in western countries. This occurred at precisely the time when electrical lines were being erected ubiquitously.
Covid-19 is radiation poisoning which is intensified by nanotechnology biosensors in the body.
https://rumble.com/v43ox2q-you-inject-these-into-the-body-of-the-human-ian-f.-akyildiz.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349881372_Effect_of_Coronavirus_Worldwide_through_Misusing_of_Wireless_Sensor_Networks
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359691796_The_Internet_of_Bodies_The_Human_Body_as_an_Efficient_and_Secure_Wireless_Channel
Lol, just a coinkydink about Freud I' m sure. He's One of many in the false god pantheon that could do no wrong, right? Our blind guides that pretended to have all the answers as we have turned away from God the only Creator and Sustainer to proceed down the ever darkening path that is "science" to our our destruction.....
Thank you for the links you sent, I will be sure and look at them!!
Ah Freud: And then of course there was the Victorians with their Phrenology (every emotion and process allocated to a multi mapped section of the brain) - total quackery.
Not sure we've really moved on much more since, if truth be told. Apparently serotonin level SSRIs bubble has just been burst scientifically. Another 50 years they got the brain wrong. All those poor victims...
Please show me some actual bonafide proof of the truth of the "Chemical Imbalance" theory of mental illness that seems to provide a rationale for the use of SSRIs and other nonsense Psychiatric drugs that have horrific side effects like Serotonin Syndrome, homicidal and suicidal ideation, etc.. they have been paying for and dictating the results of "studies" to justify and corroborate their agenda of expanding diagnoses and drug sales for a long time:
It seems we have an extensive history of being scammed by PigFarma....with us being the Guinea Pigs.....
I'd like to see that proof too! But of course it will be corrupted to support the hypothesis that justifies the drugs that make the profits.
The covid vaccine fraud doesn't seem so surprising when you know what 'the science' has been cheating and lying about for decades.
Check out this intriguing view of the big picture.
https://wrenchinthegears.com/2024/01/27/human-weather-why-for-now-outrage-isnt-my-tool-of-choice/
You are right! My daughter totally identifies with her psych label. Ah well, at least she's not trans. But she 'got' the last fashionable one though: anorexia. Caught it off a friend - I kid you not.
Just one more thing. Do you know I even thanked my mother for her terrible parenting, and all the misery I went through? Because it taught me resilience and allowed me to get through the madness that is/was covid, relatively intact. I'd already grown up in a warzone with seemingly crazy people, so I could handle it. OK, it wasn't easy, and I still suffered lots, but I've come through it a better, wiser person. Not sure if I'm stronger, but I'm certainly not broken. It was just a few years ago when I told her that, in my early 40s. She was a bit shocked I ever thanked her for that, but when I explained it, she understood!
Perhaps your daughter will one day figure out that you weren't such bad parents after all?! It might just take a few more years/decades?! Anyway, I'm sure you guys are FINE. She's probably just not got her head screwed on straight, yet!
Robyn, You are so good to chat with - last thing, I promise:
Our youngest daughter is finally turning into a human being - at age 21. I never thought I would see the day. I was abused by her for years before she ran away at 16 (another story...) Funny thing is, we never had any trouble with our boy and they all had a loving supportive childhood and wanted for nothing (except a horse by the eldest daughter - another story...). I guess the old saying is true about children being destined to be fucked up by their parents - certainly worked for me (another story...). I'm going now...
You know how long it takes for people to grow up, right?!?! Most people never actually morph into adults, they just LOOK like them, but that's where the similarity ends. Most people never progress mentally/emotionally past their teenage years.
I think hormones are the crux of the problem. Sure, they help turn us into a physical body capable of having children, but at what cost? You see kids up to age 10-12, and often they have their heads screwed on. But then the hormones kick in and soon enough, they're turning into their parents or grandparents, in more ways than one, and their brains seem to cease functioning properly for quite some years!!
IF you're lucky, they manage to grow up some more once they hit their 20s, or 30s...or after they've had kids themselves and realise that maybe, just maybe, they weren't the best kids themselves, and that maybe their parents didn't do such a bad job, considering, and that maybe, just maybe, their parents DID actually have half a clue.
So I hope your daughters DO finally have that epiphany - sooner rather than later!!!
I also think our kids have had a much easier life than we had. Sometimes learning resilience at a younger age, whilst certianly not enjoyable at the time, makes you more capable in life. A nicer, easier childhood doesn't always make for the nicest children cum adults...
Then again, I also think our kids have grown up in a very different world to the one we did. Perhaps more flippant, annoying, angry, action-based kids are what the world requires now - because we're living in 'not-nice' times anymore, so we need not-nice children, and not-nice adults to cope better with it.
Perhaps...
Well, I would buy your book, oh wise one. There is much truth in what you say. Is being smart a blessing or a curse in a world of so much stunted mediocrity. Covid was a real eye opener!
We've just picked up another self-help book for the girls, by a TikTok psych, Dr Julie Smith: maybe they'll listen to her...
Thank God we are still able to forgive the little darlings.
I hope your girls read these self-help books. But I guess they also have to be ready to read them...
My first book is going to be a gluten-free & dairy-free cookbook! The only wise words in there will be to do with diet! I'm making the final touches! Still! Aargh!
Next book will be a fiction book - about resilience, and following one's dreams. Also to do with figuring out family crap and in the process, transforming oneself. I'm part-way through it. My protagonist learns from things that go on around her, unlike many of the other people, and she ends up married to a good guy. Not to say she doesn't have heartbreak and sorrow along the way, as well as figuring out some intense family problems. 'Mum's the word' in the family she grew up in...so she has to ferret around to figure things out.
She's pretty driven. Subconsciously driven to escape her family, I think! But she's smart enough to figure out what DOESN'T work in her life - and to find things that DO work. I wish more people were like that. Although, I'm not sure I'd get along overly well with this protagonist. She's a bit haughty for my likings; not quite as emotional as me. She's an Aries.
As for being smart, I'd always pick it over being dumb (!) but it's been a long while since I've walked into a room and found people smarter than me! So it can be a very lonely place.
I think one day I'll write a book titled "Just call me Cassandra" and it will be a somewhat humorous take on life, possibly semi-autobiographical in parts, where people don't listen to what they should! Anyway, I've got a political trilogy (with offshoots) to write before that, but you know, maybe I can write them concurrently, ha ha...
Personally, I think I have given myself over a decade's worth of writing work, amidst rearing my family! We'll see how it all turns out! :-D
Wow! You'd better give up sleeping to get that lot done. Mind you, it can be like therapy - let it all out girl. Keep half a mind on TV & Film rights and who you want to play 'you' (1st novels are generally autobiographical, even if subliminally).
I've been reading very extensively about diet, health, and the total over medification of especially oldies. As a result, I am on a full fat, real food, low(er) carb, and eat what I like diet. I'm on no drugs at all and I've lost 7 Ibs in a month without really trying. The Docs would hate me as I totally buck their BS - they'd have me on at least seven drugs already!
People ask me how I know so much - it's simple: I read! (Too much sometimes...)
I guess I feel like I have books to offer the world. And I don't want them to be half-baked offerings, either; people need to read GOOD books. I recently read 'Educated' by Tara Westover. And I was VERY disappointed. Thought a better title for her book would've been 'Lost'. Without the 'shock' value of a bunch of highly charged emotional memories, that book was crap. Flimsy. Sure, there was some good stuff in there, but the overall tenor was quite lame. And the worst part was that she learned NOTHING. If anything, she lost knowledge, not gained it, even WITH a PhD! At least IMO ;-)
Oh, there is totally some auto-biographical stuff in this first novel of mine! You're onto it, aren't you?! :-)
I've been writing another book a bit here and there over the years, but it's an easier read than this one will be. Or perhaps just more simple. Aimed at slightly younger readers, perhaps. But I did start it many years ago. My current novel will be my first finished one. My protagonist's mother has aspects of my mother. Mostly the bad bits, I'm afraid! Her little sister is a bit like one of my cousins. And not necessarily in a good way. My protagonist's hubby could be an extroverted version of my hubby! But my mostly lovely, and sometimes haughty, protagonist is tall and willowy and blonde (I missed out on those genes!) although she is very self-sufficient, like I am. The theme/content is probably closer to home than the characters are, but there's definitely some cross-over.
I would expect most authors to base many of their characters on people they have met/known, to at least some degree. If you want the character to be believable, then you have to be able to create someone who COULD be real, right?
I don't desperately care if my books ever get made into film/TV. And unless you're a Producer, or scriptwriter, you probably don't get much of a say as to what happens. But I'll keep a thought in the back of my mind about it, anyway; thanks for the heads up :-)
I am GLAD you are keeping on top of your health, Marc! Eating whole food is a great idea. Lower carb & higher protein tends to help more easily with weight loss. Exercise also helps! ;-)
I plan on taking zero medications my whole life. Anyway, I figure it's a bit hard to take meds when you don't see medicos, right?! My Mum is in her 70s. She's on a VERY low dose blood pressure med each day. And it's taken her years to take even that! She refuses to take anything else. The medico would have her on seven drugs a day, too, if he had his way!
Thanks for sharing and I wish you luck with your opus. Personally, I have never really felt the need; I think I am more of an editor - or a critic... I spent a lifetime proofing stuff, often in foreign languages, so I am rather anal in that department. I can spot a typo at 100yds.
Good on your mum holding out too. (And of course blood pressure rises a bit for most people as they get older: it's perfectly normal - Duh!) Just don't get me started about statins!
PS Exercise - I know, I know... I have a rowing machine waiting for me patiently in the spare room... (I'm only 13st, 3lbs - give me a break!)
Very sensible to take things with a large pinch of salt!!
Yes, my Mum is lucky to have me as a daughter. It's taken her until her 70s for her to finally see what a wonderful daughter I am, but hey, what's that saying: "better late than never"?! Maybe I'm just patient in the long-term. I'm not sure that it's a virtue, though. It's not been an easy path with my Mum these 45 years. Still, the silver lining is that she's the most difficult person I've EVER had to deal with, so if I can manage her, I can manage anyone, right?!
Yes, those DSM manuals do sell. Very convenient that ASD Level 1 is now part of it all, right? Forget that ASD Level 4 or 5 would be unimaginably hard to 'parent' and that a fully autistic, or even regressed autistic, may be completely different to Asperger's, with perhaps even a different cause, but hey, let's just throw Level 1 in anyway, all on the same scale of 1-5, and it's all hunky dory, and people will pay us! Right?! No cynicism from me, no sirree.
Sounds like your daughter needs to grow up a bit more!! :-D Good luck with that. I guess I'm glad I've gotten in early with my firstborn (and suffered for it!) because she's upfront with me now and we have a great line of communication and she's getting Dux of her class AND is very sociable! Almost no-one can tell she's Aspie. Sure, it's practically killed me and my sanity, and driven my anxiety through the roof at times (I take herbal supplements daily for my anxiety...as does my firstborn...as does my husband...) but so long as we get the setup working NOW, then she should be set for life. I hope so, anyway. I swear, she's easier to deal with now, heading into her tween years, than she ever was when she was younger! At least the 'red beast' meltdowns are practically non-existent, now. They were shocking when she was younger.
Kids can be so hard, sometimes, I know, Marc. I'm sure you've tried to do the best you can, or at least a darned good job of it (none of us do 'perfect' jobs, but most of us DO try!) but people are people, even our own kids, and so we can only do what we can do and if that doesn't cut it, then we are left with Hope that things may yet turn out OK.
xox
Thank you for relating your stories! In reading all of this I continue to wonder where the billions of dollars/pounds/euros, etc. are for finding a cause and potential cure for ASD are. The latest CDC figures (FWIW, you know, CDC) which are a few years old show the rate at 1 in 36, which may be an under count. I know numerous people with kids on the spectrum. Growing up I had one friend who may have been Asperger's but no one else I knew was ASD or had an autistic sibling. I think the "Powers That Be" are afraid of what they will find if real investigations are done. This is a real epidemic deserving of real resources. Think what could be accomplished if they stopped all dangerous GOF research and turned those labs loose on an existing problem, not one they are trying to create!
Please be well and be strong and kind.
Thank you for your kind words.
Dr Toby Rogers regularly writes on autism and wrote his thesis on it, including the social and economic costs - but of course, no one wants to know... Maybe if Trump gets in this time he will keep his word and look into it (so long as fShizer don't offer him another $1 Million for his inauguration party again...).
Why are you on the other side of the world? We could be besties!
Excellent you know all about the DSM.
Your mum sounds like two handfuls - as was mine! And good luck with your daughter and the teenage years!!
PS Stumbled on another Aussie comedy gem on Netflix: Wellmania. About a dis functional drug taking party 'girl' nearing 40 who is very loud and chaotic (but with a lovely heart). And of course her brother is gay, because someone has to be in every drama nowadays...
Ha ha, you're hilarious! You do sound like you'd be a good friend to hang out with. It's just that miserable UK weather. It's lovely occasionally, but living through it daily would depress me too much!! The only time I've been over there, though, in Nov 2006, the weather was actually pretty good! Jeans & a 3/4 sleeve top - in London, in November! But Scotland was FREEZING. I do not know how people live there. That wind goes THROUGH you, no matter what you're wearing!!
Anyway, back to your comment. I've not heard of that Netflix comedy, either! We don't have TV, just DVDs. Gave up the TV connection about 12 years ago! And we don't watch Netflix. I know, so sad, and I'm only 45! I also don't have time to watch hours and hours of TV like I used to when I was a teenager - but at least back then the TV shows WERE generally good! Although looking back, I don't know how I found time to watch 20 hours of TV a week when I was at school, worked 15 hours/week at a fruit market, played competition tennis & hockey (+ did training!), was on the phone up to 10 hours a week to friends & I played the piano an hour a day, plus I slept plenty! And I had to do homework, as well as plenty of household chores! Maybe there were 30 hours a day back then, who knows ;-)
Sounds like we both got lumped with difficult mothers. Maybe that's why 1. we are quite capable but 2. why we have difficult children. Things tend to skip generations. My kids are WAY more like my parents than I am. It's like I'm the black sheep in a bunch of white sheep, and my hubby's the same; so does that mean we only have black sheep as offspring? Not necessarily...
Yeah, I felt the same - I never fitted in, unlike my younger brother...
I guess when you realise your parents are just people with all their own crap, it's easier to make your peace with it.
At least that's what I used to think, until they left their house to my brother! Now THAT really hurt!! He still lives there now. I don't visit.
PS I played piano at college. Chopin was my favourite. But how can something so beautiful be SO difficult: I think he was a sadist...
Ouch. That must've really hurt when your brother was given the house. THIS is why I like Wills to be transparent, and for everyone to know what's going down before YOU do!
Maybe your parents thought you'd done well enough for yourself so you didn't need the house? Who knows. Regardless, I still like to be thought of EQUALLY. I mean, if one sibling becomes absolutely loaded, and the other sibling does not, I guess it makes sense to help out the un-loaded one...but I'd still explain this to my kids before changing things in my Will. Sure, it's my money/resources right now, but I don't want it to create animosity after I'm gone.
You're right about parents just being People. But it's hard to distance yourself from them, being so close to them both emotionally and in DNA! The greatest hurts I have suffered have pretty well all been from the family I come from, except when I was 25, when I learned that 'love was not enough' after breaking up with an older boyfriend, whom I could have married in another lifetime. Anyway, some families are just nicer than others. Maybe we got the short straws?!?! Try not to let it eat you up. Life is too short for that. People are just people, even if they're related to you. And People like to take People for granted, ESPECIALLY if they're related to you! Sometimes you've just got to level with yourself about a few not-nice truths. It hurts, but it also makes it easier in the end.
Chopin. Yeah, he was a weird one. Great music, though! I love to listen to Chopin. He could've been a brilliant jazz composer if he'd been born later. He certainly had some interesting riffs in there. So few composers can make music speak the way Chopin did. I don't play much of his stuff, because there are SO many notes - and all over the place! Did you know he broke his own little finger so he could reach a 10th? Mad. I think that puts him in the masochistic realm rather than sadistic...but some might just say he was 'driven'. Yep. So driven that his weak lungs drove him to an early grave! But how these people lived in those days, and all that cold weather...it's no wonder lots died young.
Do you still play?
PS - if you'd rather email me so readers don't have to traipse through our long conversations, my emails is: drrobyn1978@proton.me
:-)
Thank you. Trouble is she's been on their poisons for five years already so who knows what that has done to fry her brain. And the last consult she had was with a psych 250 miles away so had to be done on Zoom. But hey, that's the UK's totally underfunded NHS for you. The mental health waiting lists are horrendous - and getting even worse.