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Richard Seager's avatar

So you have to control glucose levels (supposedly) - do they tend high or low?

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James B's avatar

Yes. Without exogenous insulin my blood glucose levels go very high, even without carbs. With carbs, levels rocket. I collect a ton of data and there are definite patterns, triggers etc.

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Richard Seager's avatar

That's odd. As traditionally Type 1 have the other problem with glucose levels.

What were your symptoms before you started taking 'exogynous insulin'?

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James B's avatar

Type 1 Diabetics have problems producing insulin. Insulin regulates blood glucose, therefore we suffer from HIGH blood glucose. We suffer low blood glucose after taking too much insulin, or haven't eaten adequately to deal with the insulin injected.

I take basal, long acting and bolus fast acting to deal with food and to make blood glucose corrections throughout thd day to bring within a range of 4 to 10 mmol/l.

Initially I was diagnosed as a T2D because I had a number of HBA1C tests over a 6 month period showing an HBA1C of 65 (8.1%).

I refused meds and went keto and started strength training which brought my HBA1C down to pre diabetic level of 42 (6.5%), which was fantastic. However, in 2020 my HBA1C shot up again, despite my nutrition and lifestyle. I returned to the NHS and they were adamant I was a T2D, but I disagreed as T2D is lifestyle related and reversible.

I decided to see a private endocrinologist who ran the beta cell tests which the NHS refused to do, and he diagnosed LADA. The only treatment available to manage LADA or Type 1 effectively is insulin, diet and exercise.

Private endocrinologist had no interest in taking more of my money so he wrote to the NHS and demanded the correct treatment based on diagnosis.

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James B's avatar

With LADA a big tell tale sign is not being able to increase body mass, despite eating a surplus.

With standard Type 1, there's no luxury of finding out slowly as one ends up losing massive amounts of mass over a couple of days and usually ends up in hospital with hyperglycemia which can lead to coma and death, as can hypoglycemia which is due to injecting too much insulin.

Type 2 is a lifestyle related, reversible condition as one still produces insulin but the body has become resistant to it.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Yes well as you can see I'm not really up to date on Type 1. And never heard of LADA before yesterday. I think Pharma are making a killing (literal and metaphorical) on these.

We're all different, who decided that we all had to have bg at 5.5 mmol/L all the time?

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Richard Seager's avatar

And that was more like 8 or 9 or even higher 80 years ago. And it's been bought down 40% in last 25 years or so.

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James B's avatar

I agree with regard to Type 2 as its fixed with disciplined lifestyle changes. Type 1 and 1.5 is a production deficiency, the difference being speed.

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Richard Seager's avatar

It's interesting that over the last few years many, including Igor, you and myself have seen our levels shoot up from what they were.

I don't really see levels as being too much of a problem tbh. As long as they're not 22 or 36 I guess (HBA1C).

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James B's avatar

It wouldn't surprise me that all vaccines have detrimental side effects, and I know I was given a few in the 70s and 80s as a kid. I haven't jabbed my kids though with anything and they are healthy, which I am thankful for.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I didn't take any vaccines.

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James B's avatar

Even as a child?

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Richard Seager's avatar

Undoubtedly, though I don't think that there were that many. Maybe 2-4. Maybe none. I think that in hindsight my Mother was probably anti-vaccine.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I know someone who went up to 36 about a year ago. He didn't even know that he had the issue.

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James B's avatar

A reading above 33 mmol/l is very dangerous.

If your blood sugar level goes above 600 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or 33.3 millimoles per liter (mmol/L), the condition is called diabetic hyperosmolar syndrome.

When blood sugar is very high, the extra sugar passes from the blood into the urine. That triggers a process that draws a large amount of fluid from the body. If it isn't treated, this can lead to life-threatening dehydration and a diabetic coma.

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Richard Seager's avatar

He's fine. He was treated by his doctor and his readings came down to 9 or so I believe, more trusting in that profession than I am.

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James B's avatar

He would have been experiencing symptoms at that level I'm sure. Unquenchable thirst, dehydration, fast loss of weight, nausea, heavy sweating etc.

What was the diagnosis? T1 or 2?

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James B's avatar

2 is lifestyle related. Bad nutrition/exercise choices. It can be reversed as insulin is still produced but the body becomes resistant to insulin when overloaded with carbs.

Any decent Dr would prescribe strength training and an animal based low carb lofestyle, no booze, smoking processed food, seed and veg oils, fruit etc. However, people are misinformed and often don't want to put in the work, so they seek quick remedies. Unfortunately, the remedies that bad doctors offer are drugs that mask the problem and cause side effects.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I'm not sure that he had any of those symptoms tbh.

I'll ask.

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And what's high?

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Richard Seager's avatar

No I meant what do you consider high. I'm not interested in the official version. I operate quite a lot higher than those recommendations and have no symptoms whatsoever despite being told 15 years ago by doc to regulate with poison (aka met for min)

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James B's avatar

When my blood sugars are over 10mmol, I get irritable, sweaty and awfully hungry. Now that I'm on insulin I put on 10kg in a few months, mainly muscle. I have built good strength and a decent physique now for my age, I think. Before insulin, I was skinny.

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James B's avatar

Yes, the standard practice is to promote pills for T2D as many doctors are unaware of or just refuse to offer the appropriate nutritional advice.

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