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CMCM's avatar

From so much I have read, it sure seems like those tests are next to worthless. Especially if they can't really distinguish one virus from another. So perhaps they had the flu, but of course the test couldn't really verify that.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Yup. And I'd add that 30 cycles is still a good 5 too many. They're still conflating exposures with infections. Tou could pick it up standing in the test line, catch it in your boogers, swab your boogers up and WOOT! POSITIVE!!!

Given the symptoms, which match typical coronavirus head cold and typical flu, they are worthless. If they ran 30 pcr cycles for whichever variant of flu is showing up, it would probably be positive too.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I believe rapid tests are less prone to false positives. I was sick 2 days ago and yesterday due to being too much outside in cold weather, thought it could be covid, rapid was negative.

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Jack Gordon's avatar

I agree. My wife & I had Covid in Nov. She got it at a gathering of mostly fully-jabbed (some admitted later that they had had 'minor symptoms' at that gettogether) and then gave it to me. She got two negatives & I got one on the rapid home tests, even after we both had symptoms like cough and fatigue. But two days after each of us got a negative, our daughter convinced us to test again because we're old and the symptoms persisted. That time it was BINGO for both of us, confirmed later by a PCR at a local hospital. We began the FLCCC protocol with Ivermectin the day we rapid tested positive and both had a VERY MILD case, no fever, headache, loss of taste, or low oximeter readings. As I said, we're old and I credit our nothingburger cases to long use of supplements (zinc, Vit D3, C, quercetin, etc.) and the FLCCC/Ivermectin connection. My question is: What in hell is wrong with our healthcare system? Why does it actively suppress life-saving therapies?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Would you recommend to add quercetin to a list of regular preventative vitamins? I already had covid a year ago. thanks

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Duchess's avatar

I would. Gets the zinc into your cells. Not as well as HCQ, but taking zinc without a zinc ionosphore is just flushing it down the toilet.

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Melamorph's avatar

Quercetin taken w/ Zinc should be taken separately during the day from Ivermectin and can be taken as a substitue if Ivermectin is unavailable.. I have the more bio available Quercetin and I don't take it all the time but have on hand. You could also take Green tea extract (EGCG) w/ zinc instead. It can react with certain people so check adverse reactions and reactions to other medications first. ( both act as zinc Ionophores and get to the cells to stop viral replication)

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Castigator's avatar

Wash down zinc with green tea, one hour before meals and/or two hours after. Saves the cost of EGCG.

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Jack Gordon's avatar

I would but I too have read that, should you become infected again and require Ivermectin, you should suspend taking it because of interaction with the drug.

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Melamorph's avatar

They want to keep us sick...big industry. $$.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

What is the "specificity" of the rapid test you took? (It should be in the package insert, along with sensitivity)

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I think that we threw the package away, it was quick-vue.

We used the same test on my wife, the red line was FAT and SOLID red just minutes after inserting the stick

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

That suggests a sensitive test, or very high viral load, but gives no indication of its *specificity*

A low sensitivity test would give false negatives.

A low specificity test would give false positives die to cross reactivity.

Gold standard is 98-99% range (imo), but decent test should at least be in 90s for both.

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Jack Gordon's avatar

The day my wife got a positive with a strong pink line that appeared almost immediately after she initiated the process (BinaxNOW, Abbot Labs), I got a positive with a wan line, but one still clearly evident to the naked eye. (She had had symptoms 3 days longer than I before the test and that may explain the difference in the intensity of the pink line.) My positive result was days later confirmed by a hospital administered PCR test.

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CMCM's avatar

I had the impression the rapid tests are fairly worthless, although this is an area of confusion for me at this point. I'm left with the feeling that none of the tests are all that reliable.

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Jack Gordon's avatar

Their negatives are not very reliable, especially if you acquired the disease recently. The positive is usually on the mark, though. That's why most kits have two tests. If the first is negative, wait 36 hours and try the second.

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