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Igor Chudov's avatar

J&J definitely was the "fall guy"

Still wants the money though, even though its vaccine was discontinued

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Charlotte's avatar

That’s what GAVI is leaking to NYT, but we don’t know if that’s entirely true or what are the financial issues with Moderna (Pfizer was obviously going to get away with it no matter what) because there is a conflict of interest. Gates would be obviously incentivized to have GAVI badmouth J and J to draw emphasis away from what Pfizer and Moderna are doing. They are the convenient fall guy once again. I’m not saying they aren’t culpable, I’m just saying this looks like a Gate’s spin job.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

J&J did not have a "platform" technology that would allow for a surfeit of culling.

"Can't cull ain't cutting it for the guvment"

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Blair's avatar

That's a bingo!

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

J&J also used different tech. mRNA is the future don’t you know! So they couldn’t have a successful (or perhaps less deadly) vaccine that might knock out Pfizer and Moderna. Especially after Billy boy invested so heavily.

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shibumi's avatar

My husband's theory is the mRNA is the new stem cell.

Supposed to cure everything under the sun. It's a miracle!

In reality... not so much.

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Chiadrum's avatar

Very interesting that a study out of Denmark I believe showed a clear all cause mortality BENEFIT from the J&J cohort. So of course it was slandered and cancelled. Meanwhile the mRNA miracles showed a clear mortality DEFICIT. But please remember, this is all just wonderful people doing their best to keep us all “safe”. I have a bit of vomit in my mouth right now because I know so many who STILL believe that tripe.

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Messenger17's avatar

Over what time interval?

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Chiadrum's avatar

I can’t recall. The interview may have been on “Unheard” in YouTube but I could be wrong

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Blair's avatar

Come on, Chiadrum! You must never question 'the most sacred miracle elixir.'

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Chiadrum's avatar

Correct. Anything labeled vaccine = flawless.

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