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A number of posters on r/COVID19positive, I've noticed, will say something like "my immune system has been wrecked". Maybe 1 in 20 or 1 in 30. So many non-scientific statements get made on that forum (by both posters and the people who comment on the posts) that it's easy to gloss over this. I think that some posters are simply stating something based on the feedback they are getting from their own bodies, and in full knowledge of their own personal medical history (lifestyle, frequency of and their ability to handle previous bouts of illness, etc.) - i.e., they are not just saying this because the test turned red (or whatever it is) too many times, or it's a line they heard about people suffering long COVID. They saying it because they KNOW there is something wrong with their bodies now. They are weak, and they can't seem fight this thing anymore.

Let's say the mortality is 1 in 600. That number goes to 1 in 150 when you multiply annual infections by 4, but the truth is harsher, because with each successive infection, a person approaches the state of "my immune system has been wrecked".

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Yes, I also noted those comments, they stand out (unfortunately). And your math/logic is impeccable.

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That's why you have to gaslight! Otherwise the whole medical paradigm stops working.

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Good point. Even known malingerers should not be dismissed; In many cases, part of the mitigation and treatment protocol is for them to simply go to the doctor.

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Pretty hard to be wrong about being repeatedly ill I think.

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Then there are those who say nothing about their wrecked immune system as they experience repeat illnesses... the vaxxes are Safe and Effective... to admit endless illness is to bring into question that assertion...

Then there are those who acknowledge sumtingwong... but they parrot the media and claim they've got Long Covid....

I know of one person who has told me he's not felt right since getting covid 3 months ago - he's boosted... he thinks it's long covid... I don't bother to tell him he's wrecked his immune system... he would reject that ... and even if he did consider that possibility why stress him out -- it's not like he can unf789 himself -- he's got the full 4 shot does in play.... what will be... will be... (Doris Day 1956)

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Yeah, the cognitive dissonance is on another level.

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You always see this with cultists.... :(

Each time the faith abjectly fails them it just increase their devotion.

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The standard line of a Covidian

“ it would have been a lot worse if I hadn’t had the vax”

How the heck can one instill logic in that kinda brain?

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That's the one. I said at the start when the official line was down to no more than the promise "it will reduce sever symptoms" How the F..k can you ever know this? Here we are.

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My favorite part is pointing out that out to them only elicits belligerent accusations you are a "conspiracy theorist" for pointing out objective facts.

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Ah yes, believing facts matter and objective science is a process, not a dogma by decree. This is the new witchcraft.

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Eventually the cog diss breaks through. But at first a failure must be rationalized. Or you’d walk from the cult. But the cult member isn’t ready to walk. They’re getting camaraderie/a purpose etc. so their ignoring the failure becomes an act of devotion which strengthens their ties. The cult itself though is filled with intrigue and backbiting etc. The camaraderie that feels so good initially gives way to factions and unpleasantries. Then the cognitive dissonance starts to break through.

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What frightens me is the next level- when the willfully blind actively start scapegoating. Because it's like they will resort to literally anything, other than to accept responsibility for what they have allowed to be done to themselves.

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My sister has long Covid (according to her Docs.) She has leg weakness, trembling, hip pain. She hid out in her home until she was eligible for the vaccine. Never actually had Covid BUT somehow, she has long Covid (which miraculously started after the vaccine) not problems stemming from taking the vaccine (according to her Docs.) She is SO GLAD that she had the vaccine because this Covid thing Is really scary. Says the chick who used to go out in the field hunting fossils down sides of hills and when everyone on her team were wretching their guts out (from both ends) from Montezumas Revenge, she was guzzling vintage cans of beans and eating from rot-gut roadside cantinas. How is this the same person who hid in her house for a year and a half shaking in fear of getting something with a 97%-99% survival rate for her age and health.

She is bullheaded about everything, even the delusion that has hold of her.

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Common story and sad.

re: her symptoms. This is what "Medicine" and Doctors are doing now. Vaccine damage is now Long Covid. Period. This crazed diagnosis will pick up as more vax damaged people overwhelm the medical system. Sons Of Beaches. I despise them.

This is one <of many> reason why I wish the people writing about COVID spent more time shining the light on the vax injured/damaged, which outnumbers the dead probably x100. But mostly what we hear is death, Death, DEATH! numbers and headlines.

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Agreed. I’m seeing this all over. All long COVID. Meanwhile no one got long COVID until April of 2021. All the way from 2019 to then - no. Long COVID.

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Yes. Have you noticed how many people are sick here in mid-June? Incredible. I live out west but speak to many others on a daily basis around the country and so-many-people-have- "covid" i.e. so many people are sick. In June? Something is very wrong and it ain't Long Covid and maybe not even "covid". Spreading t/o whole extended families like crazy.

Maybe:

1) vaccine damage

2) effed up CNS/Immune system from the vaccine.

Well, #1 and #2 are one in the same. 😎

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Yeah, that could be very likely true. I mean it’s all a guessing game from here. You can find in a treatment protocols for vaccine injured from Flccc but yeah it’s another matter of getting them to take the protocols. I send some horsepaste to my parents in Saskatchewan Hidden inside a nice care package but they didn’t even touch it when they got sick. My dad‘s the worst the fear of being intubated is going to come true if he doesn’t smarten up and there seems to be not much I can do. 🙄😢😳😠😂

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sumtingwong* brilliant!

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The reason is if they accept it they might actively find a way to beat it. Nothing lasts forever. Even a disease.

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But sadly no sha la la happy Doris Day ending for these folks.

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Long Covid does exist. I had the exact symptoms and they stood out, in August 2019. Realised mid 2020 it was this and it's creepy structure explained why it was my first noticeable viral infection in 38 years previously. Fast forward nearly 2 years and I was having a very marked problem with my memory, "brain fog" you could say and thrombosis. I treated this effectively with a herb which cured my heart disease years ago and it quickly receded but I remain hypersensitive to the Fauci Fleas they're shedding. Same as a mate's wife who also got it, we get sick in their close presence and can even smell them. The illness is pronounced nausea and it fades in minutes when out of their range. Not that all have the same thing and a lot of hypochondria has been released from anxious people. Their inner hypochondriac has been loosed.

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Chemo effect. Have you ever seen the decline of a person's immune system who is on chemotherapy and eventually dies from the chemo? I have, twice. It is not pretty at all. And yes, the chemo effect of more and more poison (shots and/or re-occuring infections) destroying your immune system will make a person finally say "I can't fight this anymore."

Yes, it is very severe.

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As a naturopathic oncologist, I have seen this daily for 15 years, usually after a person is poisoned so extensively by chemo that the oncologist has told them, 'There is nothing more we can do; it's time for hospice.'

Then the chemo-poisoned individual shows up for a Hail Mary pass at my clinic hoping for a miracle. We try our best, but it would have been vastly better if we had met them a year or more earlier.

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Naturopathic oncologist? Do you use IV Vitamin C for treating cancers?

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Yes, among other needed nutrients, explained in detail on my Cancer & Biochemistry videos at our site NatureWorksBest.com

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God bless your work Colleen!

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I'd come see you before I'd ever consider allopathic oncology!

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Me too.

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Oh thank you for posting the link.

How many of us are now never trusting the Rockefeller medical scammers again

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Yes. Thank you for saying this. I watched my sister die from chemo overdose after all her lymph nodes were taken out. They stripped her immune system from her then poisoned her and said 'she didn't fight hard enough.' Cancer SOP is criminal. I see the same thing happening with covid SOP. Criminal and evil.

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Bingo Colleen. What's happening here with "COVID" vaccines should guide/lead the gullible masses to another Medical Myth: "chemo is a miracle drug" (quoting Tucker Carlson and MANY other naïve people).

The reality is $$chemo$$ is another deadly fraud (one of zillions within "medicine") that cripples, disfigures, destroys, kills so many people. Poison in the body is not well tolerated, you know?

$Vaccines$ are poisons. $Chemo$ is poison. Many $meds$ are poison to the body. The *daily* destruction from the above is mind boggling once a person finally realizes the Truth about "Medicine"

"chemo is a Miracle Drug!" is equal to "I'm pro vaccine!!!!!" or "No! I'm not an anti-vaxxer!!" All should be chucked over the left field fence; but they persist.

Great post.👍

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Amen. Amen.

Amen!

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The etymology of words held important clues before the Rockefeller/Carnegie families declared war on natural health with the issuance of their Flexner Report in 1910. My 1848 edition of Noah Webster's "American Dictionary of the English Language" includes the following entries:

1) "pharmaceutical": From the Greek "pharmacopaeia", to practice witchcraft or use medicine; poison or medicine.

2) "witchcraft": The practices of witches; sorcery; enchantments; intercourse with the devil.

The only true plagues in today's world are BigPharma's and BigBioTechs products, folks! Our telescreens are saturated with propaganda urging us all to "take your medicine" or "ask your doctor" or "get your jab".

Caveat emptor...

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Some conventional cancer therapies work and save lives and I send patients to get, but others have horrible risk/benefit profiles and since the whole industry runs on fear patients normally get pulled into all of them.

One of the things that's extremely challenging in medicine is treating cancer patients because that's the #1 area alternative doctors are targeted for not towing the company line (there's a lot of money in treating cancer), so often times you have to get lucky and find a ND who really knows their stuff (which is quite difficult)

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"The whole industry runs on fear." That is so true. Today was a typical workday, in that an imaging report came in for a patient with language that sounded ominous to the patient. But pulling up and examining the images together, and then calling the radiologist for clarification of our questions, it turned out to be benign. It sure did not sound that way from the report. This happens to one of my patients or another at least once every week or so, I'd say. Imagine if we had taken the imaging report at face value, and she'd made dire treatment decisions, based on pessimistic sounding words.

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First thing I always tell patients with suspected cancers is not to give into the fear. Despite me continually counseling them on that through the process, they often still do which is a testament to how strong the apparatuses around cancer is.

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"since the whole industry runs on fear patients normally get pulled into all of them."

What you stated is so important. Because there are 'some' who can be helped. The problem I have with this is, it's extremely vague - and also rare. It sounds great ('some can be helped') and the vast majority of people are always on the lookout for things that SOUND great. Especially re: health/medicine(s).

The ones who are helped by chemo are in the vast minority, but yes, SOME can be helped. And the god awful 'side effects' and how horrific people feel after the poison is in their body; has to be taken into consideration.

You're a very detailed, meticulous person. I've read some of your substack: https://substack.com/profile/76762071-a-midwestern-doctor.

Maybe you <or some other Doctor> in the future can break chemo down for the naive. Breaking it down meaning, explaining in detail how one should go about making a decision when to do chemo/radiation and when one shouldn't. I realize it's not cut and dry; but a guide.

Taking the 'some are helped by chemo' would be similar to me saying: "some are helped by taking anti-depressants" - which you extensively wrote about on your substack. Extremely misleading (not your website-the quote above).

It's true, I'm sure somewhere between 1% & 5% are actually helped by AD's (for whatever strange reason). But when taken as a whole i.e. those helped versus those destroyed and those dead and those in prison AFTER taking anti-depressants; well, it's not a pretty picture. Net/net, human beings should avoid AD's. Yes?

I could say the same for the vast majority of meds out there, not just the insane psych meds. In fact, if I twisted a few facts around, I could make the case that "some are helped" by the "Covid" vaccine. How disgustingly misleading on my part, if I ever stated that (which is done by others on a daily basis). Which I never will.

"Some are helped" doesn't cut it. We need to - in/with objective detail - define 'some'.

All of your points, well taken.

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The basic issue I'm dancing around is that if I do not feel I am competent in a topic, I do not want to write about it because I feel it's extremely inappropriate for me to put potentially inaccurate information out there. With the cancer subject, I do not frequently treat cancer patients due to the immense degree of liability that's involved in it and the fact that many doctors lose their licenses for doing holistic and alternative cancer therapies. At the same time it is something that I have found extremely interesting, and frequently studied. My general perception is that in almost all cases, chemotherapy and radiation therapy do more harm than they benefit the individual. However, there are certain chemotherapy is for specific types of cancers that work quite well and are not as toxic. Many of those have only become available more recently as there has been a trend within cancer research to make drugs specifically targeted to certain cancers rather than chemotherapeutics the target every cell in the entire body.

In most cases, I support getting surgeries true move cancerous lumps before they metastasize. In some cases you run the risk of spreading a cancer by operating on it, but provided the tumor is in a safe area to operate, it is immensely beneficial to do the surgery, and I have had friends who refuse surgery because they hated the cancer industry and then subsequently died for my cancer I felt probably could've been treated if it had been addressed earlier.

My general preference is to surgically remove a cancer, and to consider in chemotherapy if it is specific to the cancer and it has a relatively good efficacy to toxicity ratio (many do not) and it will not bankrupt the patient (many of the chemo therapies are incredibly expensive).

There are a lot of alternative cancer therapies I believe work much better than chemotherapy (including many wish for all practical purposes have been erased from history), so I have the luxury to often avoid that aspect of cancer care. Typically, cancers arise as a result of a systemic imbalance within the body, and unless you address that in balance, it is quite likely the cancer will come back later. The problem is that very few people have the skill in background to accurately recognize these imbalances and correct them.

I hope that is helpful since it still somewhat of a non-answer to your question.

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Yes. Thanks

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What we are seeing is certainly analogous to the chemo effect. The distinction is that chemo is generally longer in duration.

However, it is quite possible that the immune system damage attributable to the inoculations is cumulative, just as would be with chemo.

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And chemo is given to dying people, in hopes that the dying people die a bit later.

The covid vax is given to formerly healthy people

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This is a very important point most people don't get. To some extent you can justify a toxic therapeutic to treat an already existing disease, but it is almost never mathematically or ethically defensible to give a toxic treatment to a healthy patient to prevent the potential of later developing a severe or fatal disease.

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I tried to account for that in my wording!

Since Igor runs a math website I try to periodically jest with how the entire COVID situation is also immensely mathematically frustrating.

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You're right. How do people not see this at this point? The lack of common sense and unwillingness to course correct is breath-taking. You would think a person would rather be right than consistent when it comes to their health.

The cumulative aspect is the part that's grim. I hate talking about it, especially the implications it could have on the children. They could've been spared, but otherwise decent people, simply did not give much thought to the implications of using them as "shields". And f'ing masking them all day - even at recess! I am still astonished by this. It is obvious that this is/was WRONG. There is no such thing as a "little" child abuse. This country did it for two years with barely a peep - that's not a good harbinger for the future.

IMO the masking and "vaccination" have already become "immoral" as it relates to children. The refrain about how resilient they are is disgusting to me. Of course they're resilient - as most humans are. But what does that say about the resiliency of the person saying that? It was hard enough for adults to make sense of this shit-show. I wonder how the children processed the isolation and covering their faces? What about being surrounded, unnecessarily, in a "spirit" of FEAR for extended periods? I wonder how they're going to feel 20 years from now about the behavior of the adults? They will eventually figure out they paid the price, without a voice or consideration for their future. And all for nothing. Their future was mortgaged for fear and laziness.

What species can survive if they "eat" their own? It's been a really bad showing for adults. And the harm to the kids in many places is still happening. The children bared most of the burden, with their whole lives in front of them, with virtually zero risk. Just disgraceful and it was for two years!

Sorry for that rant...

IMO, If you have multiple infections with short intervals, it is almost certain to be cumulative. If you had multiple old fashion colds 3 or 4 times a year, with 7-10 days duration for each, over a 10 year period, you would be damaging you're immune system and quite possibly some of your other bodily systems. You just can't spend 30 or 40 days a year sick and not have a cumulative effect - and perhaps an acceleration of the acceleration of the cumulative effects over time. Couple that with the normal aging process and the wick burns at both ends.

Unfortunately, it will probably affect us all, regardless of "vaccination" status. The unvaccinated to lesser degree because at least you had a full response and some cross immunization to subsequent variants.

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"The refrain about how resilient they are is disgusting to me." So true. Even if the children are resilient, since when is a person's level of resilience a reasonable excuse for abuse?

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I know Sophia, it gives me such a heavy heart watching whats been done to children...no less by selfish adults.

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You are absolutely right.

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Seen it once. My dad got 1 chemo treatment and went from playing golf 3x week to the grave in 3 months.

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And how quickly would he go without the chemo? Do you have any estimates?

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Prostate cancer survivor from 1998. Spread to liver and lung had been managed w/whatever that drug is that reduces testosterone (I forget). Lit up in liver (maybe lung, too) late 2016. They tried something else then talked him into chemo. I wasn't in on discussions with CA Dr as I'm out of state so I don't know (or forgot what I was told) his prognosis. But, even if it had been the same 3–4 months, at least most of it would have been active, not in rapid decline from systemic poisoning of chemo. He literally played golf Monday, got the chemo Tuesday, played golf again Wednesday, in hospital by Saturday. All downhill from there.

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I can estimate. As a naturopathic oncologist, I have treated cancer patients for 15 years. Please see my response to Napoleon above.

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As Colleen says she would know best about estimates. But in my anecdotal situation with my sister she probably would have lived two years longer doing nothing. And even if she died in the same time period the agony of what she went through in the chemo poisoning (the death certificate actually noted chemo poisoning) would not have occurred. And I'm not even going to mention the cost of the treatment that bankrupts you as you're dying.

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And it's not just fighting off SARS-CoV-2.

Norovirus infections are through the roof.

Non-endemic monkeypox is spreading far more aggressively than the current African outbreaks (and that INCLUDES the Congo Basin clade cases that are likely at issue in the Democratic Republic Of Congo), and the countries where that spread is the greatest are all highly inoculated, while the countries where monkeypox is endemic have comparatively low inoculation rates.

https://allfactsmatter.substack.com/p/monkeypox-where-are-the-african-cases

We are seeing the emergence of broad data sets that indicate the inoculations have weakened immunological responses across the board. People aren't just more susceptible to COVID, they potentially are susceptible to everything. VAIDS is moving from conspiracy theory to conspiracy fact.

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Exactly as predicted by some (including The Dude).

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As Jeff Goldblum's character in Jurassic Park observed, "Nature always finds a way."

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Yep. Another "conspiracy theory" that turned out to be correct. When will people wake up?

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Thanks for all the good news!...:)

Just crazy...and predictable. It's unfortunate that this is self inflicted. Some of this may have happened, to a degree, even without the "vaccine". We tried to "hide" from it, giving the virus more time for recombination in a naïve sample of 8 billion hosts, spread across the globe.

Administering a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic (let alone a leaky one) just poured jet fuel on a forest of tree's with no bark. Repeating that every 4-6 months isn't going to just affect the tree's - it could very well affect the whole "ecosystem".

As far as I'm concerned, data and studies weren't necessary initially (they most definitely are now though) to understand this. Just common sense, observation and logic - it wouldn't have hurt to get a wise grandmother's input.

This has always been a matter of saving the MOST lives vs. trying to save every life. Fear and hubris lead to dismissing the least "bad" option. That's all we were ever going to be afforded. We chose to give the virus a year, waiting on a vaccine, without any other measures/therapeutics/ protocols to mitigate the threat and build herd immunity.

That in and of itself, prevented any chance of "cauterizing" the initial viral wave. During that time the virus was able to matriculate across the globe unimpeded. We couldn't make the "tough" decision above, so all hope was tied to a vaxx that was supposed to be a panacea.

Because it neither stopped infection or transmission, the population

ended up being a launching pads for variant after variant - and in parallel weaking the response to each reinfection, but ALSO weaking the immune system as a whole.

As you indicated, we are probably in a scenario, where our immune systems are in a slow roll to being neutered, by repeat infections that lack a full response, thereby diminishing the ability to clear the infection. All of which makes us more susceptible to other pathogens.

We are in uncharted territory. And I don't expect our public health officials to provide a solution

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I agree with everything you just said. I need to replace the word vaccine to kill shot. Every time I write vaccine we tacitly lend it credence. It should have zero

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Monkeypox is in the orthopoxvirus genus. Shingles is attributed to herpes zoster--a completely different virus.

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But does it matter, when the media use shingles pictures as if monkeypox?

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Yes, it matters.

For starters, shingles is a secondary expression of the herpes zoster virus. It is not the primary infection.

Moreover, conflating monkeypox and chicken pox obscures the relevance of exposure to or vaccination against other orthopoxviruses. Cross immunity is not merely a thing, it is the basis for smallpox immunization with the vaccine.

Finally, there is enough medical hysteria in the world --too much, in fact. It is far better to follow the facts and not be distracted by the hysterics.

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Very insightful. Only the individual can truly know for sure that something is wrong with them. For example; I don't NEED to take a test to know I'm sick.

The sad thing is they will probably be dismissed as malingerers by the medical industrial complex. And by doctors themselves; what doctor would ever want to admit/acknowledge that they have some responsibility (tacit or not) for compromising someone's health - potentially for the rest of their lives- and maybe truncate their lifespan?! But rest assured they will collect their co-pays and bill for visits.

Further, can you imagine all the mental health issues we're going to see with the vaccinated, in addition to voluntarily compromising their immune system? - and possibly being ignored for it?

They would be in three vicious cycles; individually for both body and mind. And the worst; the feedback loop between the two. I think its safe to say, that the effects on overall health would NOT be just linear.

I'm not prone to depression, but i could see myself having "Mr. Scary" depression if I'd done that to myself. Heck, I'll be depressed for them.

Could there be anything worse?

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Ditto with “I don’t need to take a test to know I am sick”. Do these people still have Mothers that cut the crusts off their sandwiches?

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hilarious. and cut into the shape of a heart.

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"I don't NEED to take a test to know I'm sick." How very 2019 of you. Oh, how I miss 2019.

I know someone who took three tests to prove to himself he had corona. Then he took some more to prove he didn't have it any longer. Somewhere in between, he took Pavloxid. Since he no doubt tests more often than he eats, and since he took Pavloxid, I have no doubt he's gotten more positive tests back.

He's spent so much time testing over the past 2+ years, even the guy manning the corona testing van thought he was going too far.

P.S. This guy works from home. Sick or no, he spends most of his time away from other people.

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The inanity. I almost feel sorry for them. How do they have so much time for this shit?!

These people will be "terrorized" with FEAR the rest of their lives. And many will be wearing mask in perpituity if they think there's any threat at all. I wonder what this latest generations going to look like after the horrible example the adults have set with their behavior of the last 2 years. Cowards for the most part.

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The testing for some people has gotten to the level of OCD.

And to think of the abuse kids are having to experience in the name of not killing their grandmothers and whatnot. What kind of people are these children going to become? These are future politicians. Are we going to end up with a whole bunch of maniacal, cruel Trudeaus (etc.) on our hands?

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I'm thinking that's possible after watching the last two years. Bunch of cowards who try to guilt and shame us for not subjugating ourselves. Because we can think for ourselves

And you know how I feel about the children. Whats been done to them fills me with anger

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I'm not terribly kiddy-widdy, but seeing the abuse people are doing to children makes me physically ill. How can people who claim to love kids do such awful things to them? Their minds have become twisted by fear and illogic.

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A lot of the posters on the reddit forum are absolutely obsessed with testing.

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We are looking at mortality rates to be increasing and even exponential?

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I believe that will be the case. Those who have been boosted, in particular, will not last too long. Each successive injection further debilitates the immune system. I know people who have gotten one shot initially early on and had Covid several months to a year later who are well enough for the time being. No “long Covid” in them that I’m aware of.

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There is zero way of ever knowing for sure. If it had been protecol for everyone to have a D-Dimer test, before and after each shot, then it would have been quickly apparent and traceable. Cancer rates are up across the type and those with no "aparent' effects, I'd be checking in with them in 3-6 months.

(note- bit of grey zone re the data on cancers, as 5 year remission is considered "cured", but there's lots of reactivations lately, so blurred lines and all that. Gives that wiggle room though, to massage the definitions as done in OTHER areas.

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A big increase in cancer would be passed off as a result of cancer treatments not be available during lockdown, in reality cancer sufferers staying away from the chemo/radio therapy butchers is far better for them.

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Exactly. And it will continue to provide "cover". This all stems from not being able to prove a negative with the initial measures. It's only one facet, but probably the most diabolical in this dirty rat trickbox that only lucifer himself could've devised. It is the foundation of the current state of affairs. The rest of the variables are sequela to the initial measures that could not be proved or disproved.

Quite tidy and elegant with plenty of versatility for "updates" and "upgrades".

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True on all counts.

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A lot of the graphs appeared to show that those who actually survived a single jab were doing the best of all.

The unjabbed were second best and then it all went tits up for the booster junkies.

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I believe that's changed. All cause data, when adjusted for shots status, says none is best, 1x is next best, and so on- except for the under 18s and wait for it....the elderly!! So we are literally back to "killing grandma" again. This time by iatrogenic not pathogenic.

The sad part is, that elder category is moving downwards, with more shots. So check in in 9mths and you'll see them redefine what "elderly" is, just like they redefined who's at risk for heart attacks.😐

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Well said. Coincidentally I just pointed this out somewhere else on this posting. The unvaxxed will be affected as well. No immune system can handle constant waves of variants without some damage. It just can't keep up and have enough time to rest and heal itself.

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I would hope natural immunity from prior infection is more robust than the leaky jabs meaning the unvaxxed should not suffer as many or possibly any repeat infections.

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I believe this is an artifact because those who were harmed by the single jab were being counted as unvaccinated if it happened within 14 days of vax.

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I agree with that, but when the ONS was actually showing the data, the 1 jab column was usually showing the lowest incidence of death and hospitalisation.

I take no delight in saying that, because it does muddy the waters somewhat.

However. If the jabs do indeed cause a rise in other diseases, I would expect that a 1 jab recipient will maybe suffer the same immune suppression, but at a slower rate than the booster junkies.

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It will be interesting to see what the death shot uptake will be this autumn/winter. I'd like to think that many people have wised up, but I doubt it. I feel I should be putting up posters and handing out leaflets to give them the facts, but to be honest, I can't be bothered. If they don't know the truth by now, they never will.

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Maybe, but of course we'll all hoping that's not the case.

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I notice the ones Igor post on twitter - majority don't say "thanks to the v..."

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Some say they got Covid after their third shot wore off, and they’re mad at the CDC for not letting them get a booster.

Really, the CDC should be studying this strange, highly contagious, masochistic yet brain-dead condition. Only the ones who didn’t get mass formation syndrome have attained herd immunity against it.

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We are in the survival group.

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Maybe they are and it shows that the shot is working better than they expected.

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What if it took the vaxx three shots to kill the brain and program that psycho wish for more? 🤔

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Mostly official people say that nowadays

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1 in 600....1 in 150....1 in 100....2 in 50...etc....soon, very soon, the data will represent a larger percentage that has to wake up more and more individuals. Has to. Well, at least 70%. There are the 30% MFS folks that will succumb to their embedded dependencies in the state. I cannot understand their rationality, never will, thankfully.

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A lot will choose to not wake up.

They will have to face the reality of what they allowed evil people to do to them.

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Terrible. I have sympathy for the innocent child, but none for the idiotic parent.

She has created her own family hell.

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I agree. I'm seeing it in my body.

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I've heard this a few times now and the frequency is rising. What's crazy is that some refuse to acknowledge the obvious correlation with their jabbery and already accept the idea their survival lies in more jabs. The "but lucky I got jabbed, or it would be much worse" leaves me shaking my head all along.

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I do not like censors so I have ignored anything on Reddit for years. I wanted to sign up to make one comment on r/COVID19positive but did not.

"Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadows of the walking dead, I will feel no evil. For vitamin C&D, zinc, and quercetin are with me."

Reading about 50 entries at reddit was terrible. I could not continue We are living with the walking dead, the zombie apocalypse. My experience with Covid19 version 1 after taking the supplements for 8 months: I woke up soaking wet after a fever sweat. Sheets were soaking wet. At least a pint of sweat. That was it. I never felt ill, no symptoms. I slept through the fever. I may never have a cold again.

The reddit people truly are zombies and I do not want their deadly attention. The zinc and zinc ionophore are too late for them. I always mention what worked for me, but reddit is not the place to do it. The censors at reddit have killed these people. They just haven't noticed it yet.

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Reading reddit makes me similarly unsettled

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I hear you. I shared similar information i.e. zinc that was not typically found in that group, I received about 15 negative reviews and then I was banned for life. God has been dethroned and replaced by ’ Science’. It’s a pity for those that have been coerced and are looking for help in that room.

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Maybe they're saying their immune systems are wrecked because their immune systems are, in fact, wrecked.

Their interferon signaling and production is wrecked. Their T cells are wrecked. Their vax-inspired antibodies enhance infection. Their tumor-suppressing genes are turned off. And more:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

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