I have the same approach. But I dont think that Igor would agree that we can train our innate immune system. I remember he said somewhere the best thing is NOT TO GET it ever.
I have the same approach. But I dont think that Igor would agree that we can train our innate immune system. I remember he said somewhere the best thing is NOT TO GET it ever.
Everyone's going to get this bug, it's inevitable, especially at a basic reproductive rate of 20, that's unheard of. It's already passed through much of China and although the (alleged) numbers look biblical, remember this is a country 1,400,000,000 people.
I had it. Lasted 36 hours and was gone. Unmemorable. Sore throat and aches and pains.
Norovirus, that I am terrified of, a thousand times worse.
It's not about training your immune system, just keeping it healthy. All fat and wheezing and micronutrient deficient renders one immunocompromised and hence vulnerable.
If anything, this Coof bug has caused people to take an interest in their diet and general state of being. Silver linings.
Maybe it attacks people differently. I had no sore throat just body ache, headache (you know that one "sharp" pulsating pain on left side) and some tearings from the eyes and nose. No congestion. EXTREME DEBILITATING TIREDNESS and dry cough. I couldn't do anything. Just slept and listened to guided meditation with the mask over my eyes. Those were my symptoms. I'm O neg.
Yes. Each immune system is different . I am unvaxxed, I am A, got Delta 12/2021 and my oxygen dropped to 84. Hospital in Germany 4 weeks. Still fatigue a year later up to now. In Germany they refused the FLCCC protocol. Only official standard corticosteroids and antibiotics.
I hope you will eventually fully recover Heike. I know the deliberate withholding of effective meds, since i am your neighbour to the west, where we also have a wef poster boy. Here too, hcq and ivm forbidden. Customs are confiscating shipments. Luckily we ordered very early on last year, and wrote out the protocol in advance, because once you are sick you don’t feel like looking it up. We managed to get both hcq and ivm delivered. Forewarned IS forearmed. Was put to good use this past sep/oct :-)
Yes… I have to order some somewhere. But I want a trusted source. There might be false meds in the Internet . German hospitals still go without IVM, HQ. The FDA pushes on EMA I guess .
Same here, I'm in the US got Delta last December, covid pneumonia and corticosteroids were forbidden along with antibiotics. Literally tried to kill me. Still fatigued! F-ing SOB'S!
At least the Frankfurt university clinic gave me I.v. Corticosteroids and because of pneumonia Antibiotics and Heparin. The feeling to suffocate was horrible. I needed 4 weeks Oxygen then , and had neurological problems ( walking , no smell ). 3 months at home . At Least in Germany the health insurance pays 50 % of your net income. Fatigue stayed and got worse this fall
I am sorry to hear about your oxigen levels dropping. And i am sorry you had to go to hospital. That must have been stressful? I know Germany used to have very advanced health care system. The best in Europe. The important thing is you are getting better. It is been a long road to health. I think you were lucky that they used antibiotics because in Australia they were NOT part of the protocol. GP were FORBIDDEN to prescribe it. That is how they managed to KILL so many people.
Check out Arkmedick:
"That's what they withheld from the elderly that were diagnosed with "COVID pneumonia" because they were told not to treat. It was bacterial pneumonia. They died. If they hadn't had the test they would have had the tablets. #3tablets https://drugs.com/mtm/azithromycin-3-day-dose-pack.html…
I had it late september of this year. 2 days of fever, tiredness and extremely painful body (as if having been driven over by a truck). Fever gone on day 3 and body pain as well. Felt pretty good by then, but took about a week to really clear the symptoms. No bad cough or really sore throat at all. HCQ used from onset, plus rest. Hubby had higher fever, less body pain and was good in one week as well. 70 and 73.
Yes! That's exactly what I was telling friends and family "feel like I've been run over by a truck!". Just 2-3 days and then bounced back. Dry cough stayed around for another week or so..
This was Omicron. As Gates said, it's a "natural vaccine." It's not serious, far from it.
The original did pose a threat to the old and comorbid and the rather unlucky, but the epidemiology shows it wasn't the Black Plague it was made out to be.
You most likely have post viral M.E/CFS. Brother got it after the flu five years ago. It can be brutal. Autoimmune disease. He manages it through a low glycemic index, anti-inflammatory wholefoods diet with anti-oxidants, low stress (cortisol seems to cause flare ups) and light exercise, regular sleep.
He was crippled with it at one point, for many months. Doing pretty good now, but it can suddenly kick in, even if just for a few hours.
Reason I say it, brother had a specialist in M.E/CFS through his work. This fellow said he'd been to a "Long CoVID" conference where it was generally agreed Long CoVID was post viral M.E.
That's not to dismiss it in anyway. This condition can range from being overly fatigued to wheelchair bound and dribbling. Some cases are horrific and some don't recover.
In the UK, it's dismissed as a mental illness by the NHS. Seriously. It's an autoimmune disease, those antibodies go on a rampage attacking every fibre of a persons being. I've seen it. Terrible.
So, I'd take your research in that direction and get a diet and lifestyle going that will see it under control. Inflammation and cortisol are the enemy.
Toxic food and toxic chemicals have to go, but also toxic people. They cause severe stress and excess cortisol and inflammation. I noticed this in brother. Dealing with toxic people sets his M.E off. That's why I think there's cortisol involvement. At a guess.
Yes. Unfortunately I have a man living above my flat who is constantly making loud noise. Stress pur for 4 years. He is not willing to talk. Nobody likes him. So I live with Noise reductions headphones .
Yes. I have to get tested for EBV. Might be reactivated. Even the doctors in Germany don’t do much if one got Long Covid. They have only 2-3 Long Covid special facilities / treatment in Germany and they are full.
Norovirus is scary . Im 2012 I got it and had a paralysis of my left eye within 1hr. Double vision. Clinic 1 week, home, clinic again with corticoids.. nothing helped. It took 6 months till I could see normal again
I have the same approach. But I dont think that Igor would agree that we can train our innate immune system. I remember he said somewhere the best thing is NOT TO GET it ever.
Everyone's going to get this bug, it's inevitable, especially at a basic reproductive rate of 20, that's unheard of. It's already passed through much of China and although the (alleged) numbers look biblical, remember this is a country 1,400,000,000 people.
I had it. Lasted 36 hours and was gone. Unmemorable. Sore throat and aches and pains.
Norovirus, that I am terrified of, a thousand times worse.
It's not about training your immune system, just keeping it healthy. All fat and wheezing and micronutrient deficient renders one immunocompromised and hence vulnerable.
If anything, this Coof bug has caused people to take an interest in their diet and general state of being. Silver linings.
Maybe it attacks people differently. I had no sore throat just body ache, headache (you know that one "sharp" pulsating pain on left side) and some tearings from the eyes and nose. No congestion. EXTREME DEBILITATING TIREDNESS and dry cough. I couldn't do anything. Just slept and listened to guided meditation with the mask over my eyes. Those were my symptoms. I'm O neg.
Yes. Each immune system is different . I am unvaxxed, I am A, got Delta 12/2021 and my oxygen dropped to 84. Hospital in Germany 4 weeks. Still fatigue a year later up to now. In Germany they refused the FLCCC protocol. Only official standard corticosteroids and antibiotics.
I hope you will eventually fully recover Heike. I know the deliberate withholding of effective meds, since i am your neighbour to the west, where we also have a wef poster boy. Here too, hcq and ivm forbidden. Customs are confiscating shipments. Luckily we ordered very early on last year, and wrote out the protocol in advance, because once you are sick you don’t feel like looking it up. We managed to get both hcq and ivm delivered. Forewarned IS forearmed. Was put to good use this past sep/oct :-)
Yes… I have to order some somewhere. But I want a trusted source. There might be false meds in the Internet . German hospitals still go without IVM, HQ. The FDA pushes on EMA I guess .
Same here, I'm in the US got Delta last December, covid pneumonia and corticosteroids were forbidden along with antibiotics. Literally tried to kill me. Still fatigued! F-ing SOB'S!
At least the Frankfurt university clinic gave me I.v. Corticosteroids and because of pneumonia Antibiotics and Heparin. The feeling to suffocate was horrible. I needed 4 weeks Oxygen then , and had neurological problems ( walking , no smell ). 3 months at home . At Least in Germany the health insurance pays 50 % of your net income. Fatigue stayed and got worse this fall
Wow! You really got it bad. So sorry! Hope you're better soon, hang in there and keep fighting 💪
I am sorry to hear about your oxigen levels dropping. And i am sorry you had to go to hospital. That must have been stressful? I know Germany used to have very advanced health care system. The best in Europe. The important thing is you are getting better. It is been a long road to health. I think you were lucky that they used antibiotics because in Australia they were NOT part of the protocol. GP were FORBIDDEN to prescribe it. That is how they managed to KILL so many people.
Check out Arkmedick:
"That's what they withheld from the elderly that were diagnosed with "COVID pneumonia" because they were told not to treat. It was bacterial pneumonia. They died. If they hadn't had the test they would have had the tablets. #3tablets https://drugs.com/mtm/azithromycin-3-day-dose-pack.html…
Yes, they saved my life. But ..I had to order from Amazon Zink, Vit D, Vit C to help myself. They refused IVC.
I had it late september of this year. 2 days of fever, tiredness and extremely painful body (as if having been driven over by a truck). Fever gone on day 3 and body pain as well. Felt pretty good by then, but took about a week to really clear the symptoms. No bad cough or really sore throat at all. HCQ used from onset, plus rest. Hubby had higher fever, less body pain and was good in one week as well. 70 and 73.
Yes! That's exactly what I was telling friends and family "feel like I've been run over by a truck!". Just 2-3 days and then bounced back. Dry cough stayed around for another week or so..
I was laid up for a day and a half, fatigue, yes. The throat was like razorblades. Apart from that, nothing special.
Lucky you ;)
This was Omicron. As Gates said, it's a "natural vaccine." It's not serious, far from it.
The original did pose a threat to the old and comorbid and the rather unlucky, but the epidemiology shows it wasn't the Black Plague it was made out to be.
You most likely have post viral M.E/CFS. Brother got it after the flu five years ago. It can be brutal. Autoimmune disease. He manages it through a low glycemic index, anti-inflammatory wholefoods diet with anti-oxidants, low stress (cortisol seems to cause flare ups) and light exercise, regular sleep.
He was crippled with it at one point, for many months. Doing pretty good now, but it can suddenly kick in, even if just for a few hours.
Yes ..dizziness on/off-tiredness a lot
Reason I say it, brother had a specialist in M.E/CFS through his work. This fellow said he'd been to a "Long CoVID" conference where it was generally agreed Long CoVID was post viral M.E.
That's not to dismiss it in anyway. This condition can range from being overly fatigued to wheelchair bound and dribbling. Some cases are horrific and some don't recover.
In the UK, it's dismissed as a mental illness by the NHS. Seriously. It's an autoimmune disease, those antibodies go on a rampage attacking every fibre of a persons being. I've seen it. Terrible.
So, I'd take your research in that direction and get a diet and lifestyle going that will see it under control. Inflammation and cortisol are the enemy.
I Started ketogenic for 2 months now.
Yes ..Autoimmunity and Inflammation.
Toxic food and toxic chemicals have to go, but also toxic people. They cause severe stress and excess cortisol and inflammation. I noticed this in brother. Dealing with toxic people sets his M.E off. That's why I think there's cortisol involvement. At a guess.
Yes. Unfortunately I have a man living above my flat who is constantly making loud noise. Stress pur for 4 years. He is not willing to talk. Nobody likes him. So I live with Noise reductions headphones .
Yes. I have to get tested for EBV. Might be reactivated. Even the doctors in Germany don’t do much if one got Long Covid. They have only 2-3 Long Covid special facilities / treatment in Germany and they are full.
Norovirus is scary . Im 2012 I got it and had a paralysis of my left eye within 1hr. Double vision. Clinic 1 week, home, clinic again with corticoids.. nothing helped. It took 6 months till I could see normal again
Seven years on, PTSD off it. 🤣 I watched it reduce hardened demolition men, from notorious East London gangster families, to squeaking little mice.
Not by the looks of what I see in shopping carts where I shop.