Hi Igor, Whatever happens in this crazy world, I just want to thank you for keeping all of us informed. I'm unvaccinated, had Covid in Dec. 2020 and regularly take vitamin D, C and sometimes Zinc. I have ivermectin in case of infection... After reading this article, I feel nervous for my heavily vaccinated friends and for all of us a bit. I think you gave good advice: exercise and being outside is hugely important. I'm a semi-retired person who is not rich, but am a paid subscriber... Because I believe in you. Here's to a healthy and sane 2023. Keep up the great work! We appreciate you!
L-lysine in supplemental form, as opposed to simply whatever's in the diet, acts as an anti-viral by competing with L-arginine, which is essential for some viruses. Hence, lysine's use in prevention/treatment of herpes simplex. Looks like it might work for covid and Influenza A. In vitro study: https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/7/1301
L-lysine is an excellent anti-viral, as are natural HCQ, (apparently you can make is from citus by simmering Orange, Lemon and Grapefruit peels and the storing it in the fridge,) plus Zinc.
But Vitamin D levels are the most important of all; check them and supplement, especially in Winter!
Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life by Kate Rheaume-Bleue is the most important nutrition book in my collection because it totally explains why megadoses of D3 have gotten a bad rap for causing osteoporosis. The MK-7 variety of K2 will make sure that the calcium liberated by the D3 will get back into your bones instead of winding
up in your arteries and causing arteriosclerosis.
Doctors have a new stethoscopic protocol. They put the stethoscope cup on your neck and listen for turbulence in your carotid arteries, indicating the presence of plaque. Since arteriosclerosis generally starts in the carotid arteries, this can catch it early. I've had a couple of doctors marvel at the fact that this 68-year old male has no indication of plaque in my carotids, which I owe to taking 200mcg of MK-7 K2 every day.
I suspect lysine is underrated. It's done me a solid over the years, even as a topical for wounds and cold sores. Great stuff, and obviously one of those first defender kind of things.
Be sure to take a Whole Plant Multivitamin with Minerals. Covers all the micro nutrient requirements. Whole Plant sources are expensive. I trust and use Marcola Vitamins for this product.
for several years I have used Consumerlab.com for supplement quality control research. costs $35/year but I tend to only buy sup's they have reviewed for quality, quantity vs. label, and they do a nice price comp of the brands that pass.
Also, I think it is worth noting that whole food sources of the compounds you listed above are often more effective than supplement forms (due to a number of factors). Additionally, if one can get these compounds from a whole food that is lacto-fermented this serves to increase the bioavailability of said medicinal compounds while offering the synergistic benefits of bolstering the gut microbiome (which plays a key role in the function of the immune system). This is especially true of medicinal superfoods like turmeric because the fermentation process actually increases the content of specific curcuminoids (such as tetrahydro-curcumin which is increased by 1000% due to the metabolic activity of the lactic acid bacteria that are part of the fermenting process).
There is always a better solution than assaulting yourself with hoardes of alien molecules, whether pharmaceutical or over the counter or harvested from gardens -- maintain a healthy immune system. Those who get sick from routine respiratory viruses are universally suffering from chronic conditions that degrade immune health, mostly voluntary. Many people have been tested to identify antibodies from infections they didn't even know they had. We should want to be like them. Apparently most just want a magic potion and a donut. This is how nature cleans out the gene pool. Some people just don't belong here.
Please do no call naturally occurring molecules as alien. I take 8 pills a day, (breakfast looks like something George Jetson ate.) Vitamins C, D, and K2, zinc, magnesium, Quercetin, and fish oil are all naturally occurring and are in the foods you eat. Not alien or foreign.
I avoid the multivitamins, and depend upon diet for the other stuff. I suppose N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine would not be considered natural as it is a modified amino acid. You do get Cysteine in foods. I take it after being poisoned by shed covid spikes through sweat on a dentists chair. No evidence of shed mRNA poisoning.
I would like to add another point that supports David's argument for it being more beneficial to get your vitamins, nutrients and medicine from food (rather than supplements) by highlighting the fact that supply lines (shipping and manufacturing infrastructure) are becoming increasingly unreliable and will be prone to major disruptions in the near future. Add onto that the fact that our entire financial/monetary system (which allows you to remotely order and have supplements delivered to you, or for you to pay for them at a store locally) is dependent on fragile telecommunications infrastructure that is also vulnerable to major disruptions in the near future (due to a number of factors, one potential factor being large scale solar storms https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/preparing-for-the-100-year-storms ). Thus, given that your ability to continue to access these supplement forms of naturally occurring medicinal molecules can not be relied upon in the long term, even if the supplements were as effective as getting the same thing from whole foods (which they aren't) it would be irresponsible to depend solely on supplements and not take steps to also be able to source out those life giving and healing compounds in whole foods you can access locally (preferably from your garden).
I was not aware of that but it does not surprise me given how much of the mass produced things sold in stores now are from there. I rarely buy supplements (except for a few types of medicinal mushroom extracts that I cannot grow or forage for locally) and strive to only buy from companies that source their plant and fungal medicines from regenerative farmers and or ethically harvest from the wild. My current focus is helping those that are motivated to stop depending on centralized food and medicine systems and to begin creating decentralized food and medicine production systems on a residential and community scale using permaculture design methodology. I feel like at this point it is the most important thing any of us can be doing to prepare to be capable of weathering the storm(s) ahead.
A major problem for the US is we don't have enough manufacturing capacity to supply our own needs, and don't have enough agricultural capacity to produce enough uncontaminated food to sustain the population. We could probably convert our production to supply our needs, if the population wanted it. They don't. They prefer processed foods and cheap foreign products. It won't end well for most of us.
Some have to learn the hard way, I outline what I see as one viable pathway to be capable of weathering the storm ahead in this article https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/in-pursuit-of-an-antidote-for-parasites (or at the very least, a pathway that enables us to be able to plant the seeds for a future worth giving to those that will call this place home after we are gone).
I do, too. But I'm working to reduce and eliminate them. Correct diet eliminates need for supplements. We're constructed to thrive on optimum balance of nutrients. Altering the balance to force improvement in one outcome inevitably degrades another. Better to get your naturally occurring nutrients in naturally occurring foods, not manufactured pills. Unless you have a natural pill tree.
Unfortunately, food has lost over 40% of its nutritional value in the last 50 years because of poor farming practices, pesticides, GMO products, and all the other wonderful stuff delivered by the agricultural industrial complex. Most of us don't have the capability of growing all our own food, and organic is becoming more expensive every day.
Nancy, while you make a great point regarding how the industrial abuse of soil is resulting in plummeting nutritional density in store bought produce this only highlights the imperative for individuals to be taking steps to create rich fertile soil via composting at home and growing some of their own food (no matter how small the set up is every bit counts).
While most of us may not be able to grow all of our own food, we should not use that as an excuse not to grow any at all.
I often encounter people that make the excuse of having no access to land so when I was doing research for writing my gardening/recipe book I experimented with cultivating nutrient dense food and medicine indoors and in containers. I was able to grow significant amounts of ginger, kale, tulsi (aka “holy basil”), microgreens and protein rich gourmet mushrooms using only a south facing window with pots lined up and some mason jars that I filled with spent coffee grounds (for growing oyster mushrooms). Anyone that is motivated can do that (and more) at the very least, and the health benefits that are offered even by growing a steady supply of those things are non-trivial.
Gavin, I'm 75 years old and I grow veggies all year long. Right now, despite some wicked cold weather, I've got cabbage and lettuce growing, and more under grow lights, plus I regularly sprout to supplement. However, I'm an anomaly. Most people don't understand that most of the food in the grocery stores are really not that nutritional. In addition, most people are lazy and spend precious dollars in drive thrus. Many of my friends eat out several days a week; a practice I avoid as I usually get sick since my body is unaccustomed to preservatives. They fail to understand the correlation between their food and numerous trips to the doctor. I'm trying to educate my friends, but most of them took the jab. Need I say more?
Plus I have 5 laying hens even though I live in the suburbs. No rooster. (I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission, and they're much quieter than dogs.)
Yes that is true, the lack of education (and pervasiveness of propaganda) about the detriments of store bought food is widespread. As for the laziness, stagnation and apathy (which I too observe and acknowledge is present in the minds of a pretty sizable chunk of the population there in southern Ontario) some people have to learn the hard way. I offer an open hand to many of them (as our Mother Earth has been at key moments in their lives) but if the invitation to take responsibility for their own lives, health and ability to feed themselves and their loved ones goes unanswered, they will have to learn the hard way when those hyper-centralized systems they depend on to get all the junk they eat implode (and they will).
Yes that is fascinating isn't it, people eating the toxic modern western diet and then being mystified about the skyrocketing instances of degenerative health conditions, cancer, etc. My current approach to help break that cycle is to get to the little ones and help them to know what real food taste like and offer them hands on experience growing, harvesting and enjoying crops before the propaganda of the corporatocracy gets to them (via community gardens we set up and after school programs etc.)
Thank you for being the lovely anomalous and determined person that you are. You give me hope that a select few human beings that are choosing courage, hope, determination and love/respect (for themselves and the living planet) will create enough pockets of regeneration and abundance to weather the storm ahead.
I watch very little tv but Jeopardy is an addiction. It's amazing the number of pharmaceutical and fast food ads shown in a half hour. The irony of that is not lost on me.
I just signed up for your newsletter. Sigh...more to read.😉. You look young in that tiny picture, so that gives me hope, and hope is in short supply these days. I see you live in Canada which is just as totalitarian as the US. We visited Ontario in 2008 and found it beautiful and the micro culture of farming fascinating. I look forward to reading your newsletter, and learning more.
The first step is learning what works, and what doesn't. The medical industry resists teaching that, to patients and even to doctors, since it's not as profitable as selling patent meds to increasingly sick patients. We're on our own.
People should check their reaction to melatonin; if it can be taken during the day without becoming drowsy, that may be better than at night. I took one 10mg "Slow release" tablet to try it, and had a miserable night of the same dull dream sequence that seemed to take forever to end. Maybe I'll try half-pill doses some time, but I didn't see anything miraculous -- or even helpful -- about it. Glad you had positive results.
I was allergic to melatonin it completely upset my digestive system to the point that I couldn’t leave the house. I asked every doctor if the melatonin that I was taking could cause that reaction and ALL OF THEM said NO. I stopped taking the melatonin and within 1 day I was fine. I am beginning to think doctors are idiots. I had to go through a colonoscopy before taking matters into my own hands. This had gone on for months.
Mushrooms can be a powerful ally in empowering motivated individuals to be able to produce our own source of dietary Vitamin D in the winter via exposing mushrooms to UV light before consuming.
Mushrooms and animal skins create vitamin D when exposed to sunlight. Mushrooms are rich in the vitamin D precursor ergosterol, which ultraviolet B (between wavelengths of 290 nm to 315 nm) converts to ergocalciferols, also called provitamin D2.
Similar to when humans are exposed to sunlight (or a sunlamp), mushrooms convert a precursor to vitamin D, called ergosterol, into vitamin D₂ when exposed to UV light.
And though this vitamin D is technically different from the vitamin D₃ found in animal products, that vitamin D is indeed bioavailable, or absorbable by the body. As a vegan source of vitamin D, it is just as effective at elevating and maintaining blood levels of the nutrient, (according to research by a Dr. Holick and colleagues). It’s also “the only pharmaceutical form of D available in the United States,” he adds. This means that the D you’re getting from mushrooms is exactly what you’d be getting in a pharmaceutical/supplement form. In fact, research has shown that consuming 2000 IU of vitamin D₂, whether from mushrooms or from supplements, leads to the same levels of vitamin D (25-hydroxyvitamin D) in the blood as consuming vitamin D₃.
You can either place your mushrooms in the sunlight for 30 min-an hour before cooking for an extra vitamin d boost or you can use UVB lights and super charge them with vitamin d indoors when ever you want. You can do this with any type of mushrooms you like to eat and you will be able to increase the vitamin d levels to some degree, though Shiitake have been shown to be capable of synthesizing a particularly high amount of vitamin d when exposed to UV light as compared to other species.
Ivermectin is on the blacklist for Australia. I tried to get some from the US and it got impounded by customs. ATAGI which is behind all this, has a basic statement that it encourages vaccine hesitancy BUT it also admits that ivermectin is a possible treatment. Sick, sick bastards funded by you know who - the big Harma.
I get my ivermectin from alldaychemist.com. Have you tried that? My family and I have gotten multiple orders filled, and when one got lost they reshipped. It comes from various countries and usually takes close to a month, but it comes!
I did not need a prescription, but it did a have space to put one when ordering. I left it blank. It also asked for your doctor's information, I filled it out but not sure if you have to. There are different mg's and amounts you can buy. I bought 100, 15mg Ivermectin and 100, 200mg of HCQ. My order total was $135. Still more than it probably should be, but much cheaper than going through the online doctors you can get it from. The Ivermectin expires December 2023, the HCQ expires October 2025. My sister in Ohio also orders from them. They keep you informed every step of the way and give you tracking number for your order.
Me too. They are excellent. One has to find a payment method that works. No credit card. I opened a separate bank account just to do a bank draft. Have had multiple orders and no others who have had great service as well. One month turned around is true.
Nigella sativa is black seed oil a supplement substitute for ivm on Flccc protocol. You can grow the plant or eat sprouts if find a source of the seeds. Vit d and a with food for best absorption. Best.
I get my black seed oil from Healthy Traditions. Been ordering from them for years and love many of their products, esp. coconut cream concentrate. The owner of the company is the most cautious person I know with regards to pure food and NO GMO's. Just thought I'd give a great company a plug!
My friend takes it daily and swears that it has done 2 things for him - made is balding hair grow back AND helped with his blood sugar control. He dropped his metformin, and I have seen the before and after pictures on his head. The hair really IS growing back. Weird effect. It is how I got people to take it who wouldn't otherwise take it - told em, yes, but its great for hair loss! Presto they went to get it - and take it. And these are the type who poo poo any 'covid' treatments. So, a tiny win. And yes, BTW people recovering from Covid do lose hair more...
Lisa (below) mentioned black seed oil. It's excellent! Also quercetin and zinc. Dr. Zelenko was treating covid with HCQ and zinc (as well as Vit D and C) and he stated that if you can't get HCQ, quercetin is a good substitute. I would keep quercetin, zinc, black seed oil, vit D, and possibly some herbal tinctures like Baikal Scullcap on hand. Oh, juice from fresh ginger root is a powerful antiviral. Licorice root as well. A good reference is Herbal Antivirals by Stephen Harrod Buhner. He's also the author of Herbal Antibiotics. Both books are excellent!
You mention ginger- my favorite anti viral flu tea is fresh ginger and garlic, simmered for 20 min then strained, lemon and honey added to taste. This got me through a lot of days when I had to work when sick, bringing me back into normalcy quite quickly.
yes, garlic also has antiviral activity. It's not as strong as an antibiotic as was previously thought, but it is an antiviral. Fresh ginger juice I should mention is impossible to drink without diluting. So the way I make it is to cut the ginger root into 1 inch pieces, put them in a blender, add enough water to be able to blend, then blend for a minute or so and then strain out the pulp. Because you have to add water to the juice to be able to drink it, adding water to be able use the blender instead of a juicer makes it easier and quicker to make. You can store this diluted ginger juice in the fridge for several days at least.
Yes! Stephen Buhner's books are a priceless resource, not just for covid but for all illnesses, now that we've all become medical skeptics. Richo Cech's books are also excellent.
Thanks i agree with all treatment add ons. I used skullcap herb for 2021. Several practitioners mentioned its anticv mechanisms i had cv dec2021from family member who played half day indoor volleyball event. I am shotfree, had mild case, three day gradual up down fever, never lost taste or smell and never lost appetite, mild headache for 3 days which is rare for me. No test but daughter and hubby were both positive by pcr. I was taking several herbs skullcap, black seed quercetin vit d previously. I added 5 day ivm capsules at onset of fever headache. Hubby continued to exercise rigorously,dispute my warning, had a longer more exhaustive case. He did not take any herbs only vit d quercetin and 5 day ivm. Young adult daughter double jabbed had mild cases and only took additional vit d. Probably mild cases due to her age. Yes ginger tea is awesome as is homemade ginger ale.i used these as well.
Update I forgot to add that we used nasal hygiene. Homemade alt washes and pyrovidone iodine sprays every 4 hours.
The problem isn't pharma, or government, it's your neighbors, who tolerate oppression. Eventually we'll get serious about protecting ourselves from threats that really matter. Until then, well distract ourselves with hysteria over inconsequential bugs.
Thanks for the heads up on IVM. I have read very carefully the FLCC and I am using their suggested alternatives. Quercetin, vitamins D and C + Zinc are essential.
My Aussie friend, you’ve gone thru a lot, I can’t believe what I’ve seen and read about Oz, it has resembled a totalitarian Soviet Russia state. It was on my bucket list, but, it is now scratched off the list . FYI, I'm in Canada, and yes, we have been treated like sub-humans here too. I’m disgusted with this country, tarnished forever!
What you have read probably does not cover the depth of the horror here. I never thought I would see the police harass old ladies who tried to get fresh air in a park or use rubber bullets on people protesting the restrictions. Yet, it all happened - they copied China's totalitarian garbage here. My commiserations for Canada - such a beautiful place and such a psycho in power.
I saw coverage from Avi@RebelNews from some of the riots and demonstrations. Detention camps, and Stasi like police. Bizarre and infuriating. And to this day, your police want neighbours to turn in neighbours for “misinformation and anti-government sentiments”. Nazi Germany anybody?
Yes, Pink Hitler is a disgusting creature, but 30% of the country still loves him and sees him as a saviour. He has bought the media and press as well, nothing terrible is ever said by them.
We live in opposite world, whatever the government or media says, believe the opposite to be true!
30%? Wow that is massive. And depressing. The media all over world has a lot to answer for. I would put them in the same category as the medicos who administered the jabs - life in prison, no parole.
Canadian politics, the Liberal Party always exploits it. Their base is southern Ontario (Toronto) and French Quebec. Plus, they throw welfare at the Maritimes to own them, welfare and handouts, pandering to this country’s lowest denominator. Win those regions, and you control the country. Western Canada hates Trudeau. I see no solutions other than their supporters die by jab. And I’m okay with that. Happy New Year
Happy New Year. It may sound naïve but probably a simpler solution for places like Canada and Oz is to have a very, very weak federal and state government that is only there for a unified military and customs/trade purposes. The power should rest with the local (and I do mean really local) government and the police should be paid by the individual towns to prevent any sort of overall tyranny that we have seen in both places. If the pay-check for the police comes from the local community then I am willing to bet that would be telling any State or Federal body to get lost if totalitarian measure are dictated from above. After all, it is in their own interest to be in agreement with the communities that pay them.
Well, when it comes to forcing people to get jabbed, they go all out. You would think that drugs (such as ice) and fentanyl would be the ones to try to stop but that is not the case. They even admit that Ivermectin can be used to treat Covid but it "encourages vaccine hesitancy" and they cannot have any of that. Sick, sick, evil scum.
Is that the same form of Ivermectin used for pets and humans? I read multiple posts saying it is...and I still feel a bit hesitant. Maybe its time I challenge my prejudice. Thank you.
Bibi, there are other things that will work for Covid other than Ivermectin, even though Ivermectin is excellent, though I just posted a caution about using the veterinary form, below. But I also just posted on Quercetin as effective for Covid, and also Black Cumin = Black Seed (from the plant Nigella Sativa), and NAC (n-acetylcystein). I will be be posting more over the weekend - here, it is going on 4 a.m. now and I have not yet gone to bed tonight, need to sleep, but you can look for my posts over the weekend. I am a healthcare professional, I have been treating Covid, and from experience, and from publishe reports, I am confident that Quercetin is helpful - And Vitamin D is hugely important - there are things you should be able to access that will help you to stay well or to treat Covid if necessary, without Ivermectin. Though Ivermectin is excellent, but you need to have 0.4 mg. per kg of your body weight, and if you have enough information to definitely get the amount you need for you - good - though I'm not permitted to recommend the veterinary form, even though I'm writing here without my full name, I hesitate. The biggest thing is getting the correct dose because if the dose is way too low, it is not going to help you, and I am aware that the product labeling can be unhelpful and I know of people who were underdosed for that reason.
Yes, I had calculated it for the paste for horses, and the dose by weight recommended on the tube only ended up being 0.2 mg/kg. That not enough for covid. I had also gotten pills from 7 Cells, and only took 0.2 mg/kg. I ended up in the hospital for 2 months and on a ventilator for 5 weeks. It's a miracle I survived, and I now have permanent lung fibrosis from the ventilator. The dose for covid is 0.4 to 0.6 mg/kg.
My brother who had your same experience was told that he was going to need a lung transplant but his lungs have improved a lot. They told him that they are learning a lot about covid and the lungs and that what they thought was damage was some coating that eventually goes away. God bless you and heal your lungs.
Thank you so much! Sorry for such a delayed response... I usually can't find comments again to reply on my phone; I have to get on my computer to relocate them... That is thrilling to hear that your brother has had such an amazing recovery and that now he doesn't need a transplant! You are right. There is a lot the medical establishment thinks they know that they don't fully understand. God bless you and your brother as well!
yes, I think it's best to use several antivirals like Quercetin, Zinc, Black Seed oil, herbal tinctures of antiviral plants like Baikal Scullcap, juice from fresh ginger, licorice root tea, and even high doses of Vit D (50,000 units/day). The high dose Vit D should be done for 3 days only, not longer.
All the standard protocols are triple-therapy, starting with the (possibly very first) one developed by Prof. Borody in Australia. On the other hand, if it is parasites, and not so much a viral infection one needs to get rid off ...
add HCQ with Ivermectin, Black Seed Oil and Quercetin. Add Zinc and vit D3 plus k1,2 - continuously be on the 10 international units of Vit d3 with the balancing K1,2 as a 'preventative' even if not sick. When you start getting the cold/flu symptoms, hit it hard. Fluvoxamine, Steroids, and something like Tamiflu may also be needed. I also like the Native American Indians extract of Pitcher Plant which was found to be quite effective at stopping smallpox virus from replication....Merrimac Indians used it to combat the smallpox outbreak.
Yes, thank you for your comment. Originally, it was thought that 0.2 mg. per kg would be adequate, and with the original Covid, this actually was effective for many people, as I treated many at that dose, and some of the research showed that lower dose to be effective for many. But - absolutely, the new recommendation is 0.4 mg. to 0.6, and 0.4 mg/kg is normally what I prescribe and what I would take myself if ill, for sure. In my area, rather than going with the horse paste, I have known of a number of people who have used the liquid intended for injection and it was really impossible to calculate correctly for humans the way it was labeled. It said how many millileters per pound for animals but you did the same for humans, it was vastly underdosed and the people took many weeks to recover. I am so sorry you went through this and are still suffering from the fibrosis. Ventilators are bad treatment for Covid, though supplemental oxygen through a less invasive means, can be helpful at that stage along with methylprednisolone which is apparently the most helpful steroid when you get beyond the first week and need something more for an adverse respiratory situation. Or, I do prescribe budesonide through a nebulizer to inhale when oxygen is starting to go below normal, to try to avoid need for hospitalization. Budesonide was shown to be safe and effective for Covid in two trials in England through Oxford University, or at least one of them was done by Oxford, leading to UK approving budesonide as an established medication for Covid. Here in US, most doctors don't think of it, though there is a website, I think it is budesonideworks where there are listings of doctors who will prescribe budesonide. In the clinical trials the requirement was, to be in the study you had to start budesonide during the first 7 days of illness with Covid, and it was effective - but typically I would start with Ivermectin plus vitamins and supplements, and then only add on budesonide perhaps late in the first week if the person was having severe cough, or oxgen getting a little low - really, I go by how the person is doing. I had one patient who woke up in the morning the first day that he tested positive, and his oxygen was quite suddenly in the 80's, where it should be at least 95. We decided to try a budesonide treatment one time to see if we could avoid hospital, and he had some immediate improvement, and then within 24 hours and continuing, he was able to keep his oxygen either normal or very nearly so without it dropping so low again. And I also had another man who had been to hospital emergency but left because they said they would be too busy to see him till morning anyway - his oxygen was in the 80's, which is too low, and might have been reason to hospitalize - I gave him a prescription for budesonide to try, and his oxygen went up to 95. He was worried I was not a sufficient expert on Covid, so he went back to the Emergency the next morning, and they said they didn't need to do anything for him - said to "go home and do whatever she tells you." He'd been to emergency more than once and they did know what his oxygen had been doing - low but apparently not low enough for them to have decided to admit to hospital. Anyway, afer he started on budesonide at home, he did very well. Plus he also had a steroid dose pack, probably prednisone, that they had given him on a previous visit to the Emergency Department, so he stayed on that also, and sometimes you do use tablets plus budesonide - budesonide is a steroid, but you're breathing it directly into the lungs where it can do the most good, and as used in the nebulizer, you get a stornger dose than you would in a budesonide inhaler. I think the UK studies on Budesonide are accessible online if one wanted to discuss this with one's physician as a possible means of treating Covid in future. It is actually an approved med in UK, and here in US it has not come to attention where it has been banned for Covid - seems to be a bit "under the radar" and not forbidden. And it usually is extremely helpful. If you google "budesonide" you may find news articles that refer back to the Oxford research, and at least one of the articles is available for free download - I think one of the studies was published in Lancet which has long been considered one of the top medical journals in the world. Also, if you get Covid again, besides a stronger dose of Ivermectin, you might consider if available, NAC 600 mg. twice a day which is n-acetylcysteine. Here the FDA tried to suppress it for a good while, but it was never entirely off the market, and now they are leaving it alone. It is a supplement and non-prescription, and it is something natural that is in the body of every human being who is alive, and this nothing harmful about it. It can help to prevent some of the damage caused by Covid, and cleans up toxins. It is an anti-oxidant. It has been used in hospitals for preventing liver and kidney damage in some types of situations unrelated to Covid, for decades, and it is helpful in Covid. Another thing is that both in the US and in Japan, many doctors who treat Covid are recommending that unless you are on blood thinners, or are allergic, or some other reason that you can't take aspirin, take one aspirin every day while you have Covid and for a few weeks after - it helps to rid the body of spike protein which is what apparently causes a lot of the damage. Even after you are well, there can still be dead virus in the body that you react to, so many US doctors say to take aspirin 325 mg. daily x 30 days, while in Japan i understand they are recommending x 90 days. I say take it with food, like, eat first, then the aspirin right away - on an empty stomach some people may develop a stomach ulcer, so always with food on the stomach, and stop if you are one who starts to get stomach pain to avoid a problem. Or, there is coated aspirin that some can take. Aspirin is not for prevention, but just if you do get Covid again - and you can still take whatever else you want for pain or fever, whether ibuprofen or acetominophen (paracetamol in some countries, same molecule, different name) - but just the one a day of aspirin specifically to help clear the spike protein. As well as NAC.
I read about getting liquid IVM for horses and dosing it from there. I haven't done this, however. I've still had 100% success using the povidone iodine nasal spray that I made according to a recipe from Dr. McCullough/FLCC website. For the third time in the last 6 or 8 months, about 2 days ago I felt "off" like I might be getting sick and when I would swallow my throat and ears hurt slightly, that feeling you get when you might be getting a cold. So once again I used my nasal spray....several sprays in each side of the nose, and also in my throat (spit it out after). Next day that feeling was gone and I'm fine. I'm also taking D, zinc, C, Quercetin, NAC. So far so good. My husband has had the same results, I'll add.
I've been taking lugol's iodine this past year, and used thieves oil blend, as well as a few other tactics, as I work around people in the medical profession, and they are always vaxxing themselves with something or another, and I'm constantly exposed to the shed.
It needs saying that NAC may be tricky, esp. with ladies - there could be an allergic reaction (see studies). Prior to its use in a pressing emergency, it would be advisable to try it out in a small dose, and watch for response. Interestingly, NAC seems to be used in case of paracetamol poisoning, and frankly, I am not keen on either it or ibuprofen.
You had also added a comment about zinc, though I don't see that now, so this is out of place, but I wanted to say more about zinc. I was aware of the fact that too much zinc for very long can backfire and cause some adverse effects, including the copper deficiency you mention. Which is why usually for zinc, the 50 mg. twice a day I recommend is usually for very short term. My understanding is that zinc will help to prevent the virus from replicating, so immediately at the start of Covid symptoms, I recommend 50 mg. twice a day - BUT my understanding is that the Covid virus apparently only replicates for about a week, maybe 10 days, but it does die out after a week and the rest of what happens is the over-reacation of our immune system that can still react to dead virus that has not yet cleared. Once the virus is dead, there is no danger of it multiplying, so no need for zinc then. So the 50 mg. twice a day would only be for a week or ten days, in my opinion, and because it is short-term it doesn't seem to be a problem. The FLCCC doctors at https://covid19criticalcare.com/ recommend this dose for outpatient treatment, and actually I've seen literature showing that zinc works for the flu virus, colds, and many other viruses. For prevention, there is a aspect of dosing that I find time consuming to explain, so I don't always. But - I am aware that here in the US we have a zinc product, zinc gluconate 220 mg. which delivers 50 mg. per dose. This may seem confusing to some on the face of it, but the thing is, the whole entire tablet weighs 220 mg. apparently, but part of the weight is in the zinc, and part of the weight is in the sulfate, so the zinc weighs 50 mg. and the sulfate apparently weighs 170 mg. So the greater part of the weight is the sulfate. You would take 220 mg. of zinc sulfate twice a day to get 50 mg. twice a day for treatment. But in reality, due to supply chain issue, I have rarely had patients abel to get the zinc sulfate, so they take zinc gluconate or other things and I am not always sure they get the whole amount. If the labeling says "Zinc gluconate 50 mg." I would think they are getting less than 50 mg. of actual zinc since part of the weight would be the gluconate and it might not be very much zinc at all, though it would be something. Anyway, the FLCCC physicians used to recommend 50 mg. daily for prevention, in cases where people are continuing to take something perhaps for several years to prevent Covid. IF it is a few days of prevention after a possible exposure, 50 mg. of any form of zinc for a few days should be fine; if people are intending to take long term, true, as you said, it ought to be 30 or 40 mg. of zinc and not 50 mg IF it's every day, with 40 mg of actual zinc being the usual daily limit. When you find zinc gummies or zinc lozenges in pharmacies or stores, usually it just says, zinc, 10 mg. or zinc, 25 mg. and whatever it is, they are giving the amount of actual zinc and not the weight of some combined molecule. So, for these, I think you can definitely rely on the milligram on the label being the actual amount of zinc, and I tend to think the lozenges or gummies may be a bit better than a tablet because the zinc is passing by your throat on the way down, and perhaps getting a head start that way. And it's easy if you have 10 mg. lozenges to just have one four times a day for the 40 mg. of prevention. So that is my thought on zinc, but you are right - some physicians are still saying 50 mg. for prevention, but when it is for more than a few days it ought not be more than 40 mg. per day for prevention, though most US Covid experts - thinking of the FLCCC and also McCullough - recommend 50 mg twice a day if ill with Covid.
(About NAC, n-acetylcysteine). Thank you for this comment. I appreciate hearing this alternative perspective, and I would be interested to know more about your experience with this, or any source material. I had viewed a video by Dr. Mobeen Sayed in which he showed how NAC works and how it would be helpful in Covid. "Dr. Been" produces teaching videos for continuing education for physicians and also for medical students and other healthprofessionals, though I don't remember if this one had been approved for credit. Some of his videos are at you tube, though they took down most of the Covid videos, I think, but he also has them at Odyesee and at his own website. In addition, I have a colleague who has done neuroscience / brain research, who takes NAC himself and recommends it to patients for various purposes. I am aware that every living human being produces NAC so we have our own internal supply, which seems to indicate a level of safety, though apparently what we have on board on our own may not be sufficient to meet our needs in the case of an overwhelming amount of toxins from Covid - or from paracetamol (acetominophen / Tylenol) overdose. Yes, it's been used for decades as a life-saving treatment in cases of acetominophen poisoning, where people would certainly have died without it. It's also been used medically to protect the kidneys when radioactive dye must be used to image kidneys that may already be unwell. Another medical use has been in cystic fibrosis. I had never heard of problems with NAC until you have mentioned it. I would add that the Frontline Covid 19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC at FLCCC.net recommends NAC in some of their various Covid treatment protocols. This group is NOT the one affiliated with Dr. Simone Gold, but is a very scholarly group including Dr. Marik who is an international authority on critical care treatment, who has taught in medical schools and written textbooks and book chapters etc. long before he became known for his work with Covid, and also Dr. Pierre Kory who also treats ICU patients and has taught medical school, and published extensively in the same field of critical care, who now has a private practice where he focuses primarily on Covid treatment and prevention, and long Covid. The fact that they have looked at the resesarch and recommend it makes me relatively confident that I have not been misled about NAC, and I take it myself though not related to Covid, but for another reason. I don't recall it being recommended for prevention, but definitely for use in Covid treatment. Still, I appreciate your comment, and I am always interested to make sure I have not missed anything important in this time of medical censorship and misinformation from so many sources. You say you are not keen on NAC or ibuprofen - they are really completely unrelated to each other even though both do have anti-inflammatory properties. I have always told patients that if they need something for pain and fever during Covid, they can take ibuprofen as one of their options, if they normally would take it, but I don't urge it on people - ibuprofen should never be taken on an empty stomach because it can cause tissue damage there, cause an ulcer in the stomach, even a bleeding ulcer which can be very dangerous - though if not used excessively, if taken while food is in the stomach, and if the person knows to STOP taking it if they have stomach pain - then it's fine for many people especially short term use. However, I recently had a patient with a history of heart surgery and blood pressure issues - his wife was giving him ibuprofen for pain and fever, and his blood pressure shot up to a dangerous level. That is not a frequent effect of ibuprofen, but adverse effects on blood pressure and heart function have been written up in the medical literature, and his blood pressure improved immediately when ibuprofen was stopped, so I'm sure it was that and nothing that I had prescribed. So, yes, certainly ibuprofen and that whole class of ANSAID medications are a "two-edged sword," certainly potential benefit, but also some risks that can be more serious than people realize. However, NAC is not an ANSAID, and I have not seen or experienced any side effects from it, but at the molecular level there are some important beneficial effects. I don't think of NAC as being for pain or fever at all, but really, for cleaning up toxins in the body to prevent tissue damage. Okay, you mention there could be an allergic reaction to NAC - but NAC is an essential thing that is in every human body, so I can't imagine how we could be allergic to NAC itself - it may be some filler in the tablet or something added to make the tablet hold together that could have produced the allergic reaction - I can't comprehend how NAC could possibly cause an allergic reaction. If you have any links or specific references, that would be helpful. Thanks.
I would not have known about the risk of an allergic reaction had I not seen a diabetic in her sixties experience one. The symptoms were: agitation (possibly tachycardia), sleeplessness, rash in the upper torso, neck and face; all subsided spontaneously within 48 hours.
Thank you for this. With the two pubmed articles, both were allergic reactions after the IV NAC. I looked up what was in the IV solution, and it includes disodium edetate. I looked up disodium edetate and that has a list of adverse reactions that include "feeling like you might pass out; or
severe blistering, peeling, or red skin rash. nausea, vomiting, diarrhea; numbness or tingling (especially around your mouth); headache; or pain, redness, or swelling where the needle is placed" and others. Some of these side effects overlap with what has been reported for NAC, so I'm wondering a little bit if this could be related to an additive - maybe the disodium edetate - in the IV formulation and not a true allergy to NAC. But then again, at drugs.com where they list the various side effects, it says "applies to acetylcysteine: oral capsule, oral solution. Other dosage forms: inhalation solution; intravenous solution. So, the side effects listed do apply to the oral capsules, and there is no breakdown over what percentage of side effecs from capsules vs. IV solutions etc. So then I went and looked at what I have on hand myself - a bottle of NAC tablets that include 8 different ingredients besides the NAC (including Croscamellose which I've never heard of, peppermint flavor and more), also NAC capsules with only 3 extra ingredients. So, in whatever forms we obtain NAC, there will be extra ingredients and one or more of those additives might cause an allergic reaction. I truly can't comprehend how NAC itself could cause an allergic reaction but as formulated and purchased, obviously it can, and good to know. As I started thinking about "extras" in our meds, I remembered the Zantac / ranitidine recall due to contamination with the carcinogent NMDA in the made-in-China medication - with so many meds produced in nations that are not particularly known for high safety standards or cleanliness, there could be additives in products that are not listed on the label, but are potential contaminants.
One thing I did notice in looking at the NAC labeling, says that you can get NAC kidney stones, though they are rare. I would think that would be when NAC is used long-term. I don't recommend NAC for "prevention" of Covid, only as part of treatment, relatively short-term. Many of my patients were already taking NAC at first contact, where I often tend to suggest it later in the course since the first time I read about NAC was in the context of long Covid, though apparently it helps when given earlier. I've never read of it for Covid prevention, and I think it would be when taken daily over a long period of time that there might be some risk of NAC kidney stones.
Anyway, good to be aware of the possibility of the allergic reactions - thanks.
I almost died the first time I had Covid in early June of 2021. My lungs had been injured at work by harsh chemicals in a closed environment and someone came to work with a high fever. I ended up on a ventilator for 7 days and ECMO for 11 days. I was in the hospital for 7 weeks because I had two liters of fluid in my thoracic cavity. It took me a year to recover and I still have some minor issues with my lungs, but I can hike and exercise now. I still sometimes feel like I'm not getting a full breath, but I am. My oxygen level is fine. One doctor told me I might be on O2 the rest of my life. The second time I got covid in late June of 2022, the fever broke in two days and I started to feel a lot better after 3 days. I had Ivermectin, NAC, D3, Zinc, HCQ, Nitazoxanide, etc. the second time.
Sorry for the delayed response.... The app on my phone doesn't always show me comments.... Sometimes I have to go and catch up on the computer. Praise God you survived the ventilator and ECMO! Are you totally off oxygen now? I've found that if I mosely slowly, I can go without it. But if I exert myself (and at night), I still need it. I'm going to try biking again (with a small tank and a pulse-dose regulator) when the weather warms up again.
When you think about it, there is a certain sick humour in the fact that the FDA or its equivalent authority in other places, prohibits the use of a well-tested drug like IVM or HCQ whether in the human form or off-label animal products as "dangerous," yet has no problems giving emergency or even full approval to products like the mRNA jabs or other drugs (e.g. Paxlovid) that have at best a few months' data on safety or efficacy.
I and my family were in Israel when all three of us got Omicron and we were taking an exact duplicate of Dr. Zelenko’s formula, including Quercetin, and it did none of us any good in preventing the virus. Disappointing, to say the least.
The zelenko protocol was not meant for preventing the virus but for taking at onset of infection in order to cure you faster as ivm stops virus replication, is what i understand. Used it end of sep/oct when i contracted covid here (netherlands) and feverfree after two days. Prett6 much cured in a week.
Zelenko DID recommend a prevention protocol from the very beginning. The four necessary supplements (zinc/C/D/Quercetin) and HCQ weekly. You are correct that his treatment protocol was designed to keep patients out of the hospital.
You are right, he did. But the prevention aimed to improve the immune system so as to be able to better ward off infection (imo) not in guaranteeing immunity from infection.
The protocol wasn’t to prevent disease, but to bolster the immune system. That’s what it did for us. Omicron was a nothing for me, just a scratchy throat and loss of taste/smell for a week. NO BIG DEAL! My wife has auto-immune issues and was feverish and I’ll for 4 days, but broke out of it. Others like her ended up in hospital or even died. The protocol is a boost, not a cure. And a far better option than those toxic effing clot shots. Stop arguing and take advice. Or, then, go ahead, ignore advice, and take nothing, or get jabbed even. CHOOSE YOUR SIDE!
R.E. thank you for sharing that the Zelenko protocol did not work for you or your family. "we were taking an exact duplicate..." may I clarify that you and your family members had been taking the zelenko protocol for some time, as prevention, and still got sick?
May I also ask if any of you were hospitalized/had trouble breathing or any other details to describe how sick you got?
I and a family member got what I'm sure was Omicron in Jan 2022. We started Ivermectin at FLCCC's recommened dose at the time upon first symptoms, along with zn + Quercetin, C, and a host of other supps that I failed to document. When I spiked a fever on day two I added the Hydroxyc and it started bringing down my fever within hours, completely resolving it overnight. It was contraindicated for the family member and that person's high fever persisted for a week, cycling up & down in respnse to an OTC fever reducer, until a herbalist protocol of unknown herbs finally defeated it in about 24 hrs.
One thing I learned later: zinc, which plays such an important role in blocking viral replication, is dose dependent. Unfortunately, there are many forms of zinc which translate into different element values. It is the elemental value that is used as a guide for dosing but many companies knowingly or unknowingly mislead by providing not the elemental value of their zinc but the untranslated value of the form used. Always check w the company that the value on the label is its elemental value. Reputable companies will state it clearly or readily provide the info.
have you had your Vitamin D levels checked? You might want to consider that. Ideal is to have Vit D 60ng/ml or higher. In the meantime, you might consider 5000 units per day along with 100 or 200 units of Vit K2.
So, you were taking his TREATMENT protocol? HCQ and/or Ivermectin-Azithromycin-zinc? I don't mean his Z-Stack supplement formula - I mean the TREATMENT protocol. I believe he adds steroids at some point as well, like Dr. McCullough.
The Z-Stack supplements are not the treatment protocol.
Also, you have to be careful taking constant Quercetin, as a preventive. There are studies coming out that it interferes with thyroid function. Also mentioned at FLCCC.
Interesting. I tried to find this on flccc but it mentioned only the risk of interaction with ivm. Am i overlooking? I take quercetin daily, so am interested to learn of studies that might show prolonged use has adverse effects. Can you provide a link? Jonesy? Is that like Jonesy in Dad’s Army? :-D
Quercetin serves as an ionophore for zinc; Dr. Zelenko, paraphrased: The former is the gun, the latter the bullet. Green tea is another ionophore that I should find preferable. I only take Quercetin when green tea is in short supply.
Using both IVM and Quercetin is the proverbial belt and braces. No wonder this may cause trouble.
You are right. Our dutch self help doctors’ website says the same. I think i wrote earlier in the comments spabout using ivm when ill, but i ised hcq and only on the last day took an ivm pill just to see if i would survive these (china, for dogs), and i did. I dont often drink green tea, but lots of fruit, so i will halve the quercetin. As jonesy suggested, i did look up a few studies on thyroid/quercetin and will err on safer side.
I may have been mistaken about the mention in print at FLCCC. Perhaps I heard it in one of their videos. I know they are now telling people not to take Iver and Q at the same time, because of an interaction. If you just search "quercetin thyroid function" many articles appear with this info.
I have an app't next week with my doc who's part of the FLCCC network. It's one of the things I'll need to talk about.
Regarding my screen name, You obviously don't get the gag - I like horses.
The blogger and podcaster Ann Barnhardt, who used to be in the cattle marketing business, has written extensively about the animal version of Ivermectin. The 1% injectable solution (taken orally by humans) appears to me to be easier to dose than the paste version. One of Ann's friends pointed out that while some so called human versions of Ivermectin might be fake, it is unlikely that the animal versions are fake. Ranchers and farmers would get POed if their Ivermectin that they gave to their livestock did not work.
Unlike the mRNA COVID concoctions, whose ingredients are unknown, the 1% injectable Ivermectin that I looked at has just three ingredients. You can examine the Material Safety Data Sheets for the two inactive ingredients.
I have not used the liquid, but can personally vouch for the paste. The fillers/carriers are quite innocuous, and neither my mom nor I have noticed any problems after taking it. She's 86, has taken either the (human) pill form or horse paste every 1-2 weeks as preventative, and has never contracted CV-19. Yes, pills are certainly preferable, but the paste (in my own experience) is perfectly fine, much more accessible, and just as effective. (This is NOT medical advice.)
You know deep down you are right with whatever you are overthinking but you just don't want to admit to yourself how awful it is that everything is so messed up.
This is what I think it is and I have experience of this from dealing with a toxic bitch of a mother who used to say and do the most awful awful things to me.
Thing is it messes with your brain thinking about how your own family can be so cruel, it is upside down and messed up so you overthink it.
I've gone to vetrinary when I can get it. Crazy thing is that they will charge me out the waz to buy deworming meds for cats and dogs, but all I have to do is buy stuff packaged for horses and dose it properly. Crazy. And I know it is OK for dogs and cats and chickens because DAMN one of the things I learned this term in the country is how effing fragile horses are. If a horse can tolerate it, well you could well scale the dose down and feed it to a child...horses are delicate and one could do worse than use them for 'guinea pigs' (In a manner of speaking of course. I love the buttheads).
In TN, it's supposed to be over the counter. I called a compounding pharmacy and they said I could just come in and get it. Maybe they can't ship out of state? IDK
I live in the south and we get it through a mail order pharmacy in New Jersey. The doctor that prescribed it is one of not many here that will prescribe IV.
ALLDAYCHEMIST is batting 1000 with me. 11 orders fulfilled out of 11 orders. They have thousands of online reviews. I know, this is an anonymous internet recommendation, but give it a shot!
That Canada’s Customs agencies are so concentrated on such a widely used, virtually harmless therapeutic, is not only grotesque, it takes their focus from policing truly threatening items.... fentanyl? A Bomb? What a joke.
The 12 mg tablets are “Imrotab 12”. The 6 mg tablets I believe are “Iverheal 6”. But I’m not positive on the 6s since they’re not near me right now. But, they usually offer several different brands ( I can’t tell the difference)
I second alldaychemist. I got HCQ from them. They have IVM for about a dollar a pill, in doses of 3, 6, or 12 mg if I recall correctly. My HCQ order also took about 3 weeks.
You are much better off getting the human form in a prescription calculated for your body weight at 0.5 mg. per kg. I have posted something on this tonight and will be posting more on New Years Eve or New Years Day. I am a healthcare professional. Unfortunately the doses for parasites for animals are not proportional to the human dose for Covid, and the way they are labeled, in my experience makes it quite difficult to figure out how to dose it correctly for humans. I had one whole family who had gotten the Ivermectin for injection for cattle, and the mother was dosing the whole family with a little medicine dropper from the solution - the husband did have some Ivermectin tablets but at the time, we had difficulty obtaining the quantity needed, and the wife continued giving him and others in the family the drops of veterinary Ivermectin - it took the longest time for them to recover from Covid, though no one had to go to hospital, but it turned out, I was able to learn that she was using the wrong dose entirely - it was labeled to give so much per pound for cattle, but the dose for humans was vastly different. I had told her that the medial board would not allow me to recommend a veterinary product for people, but obviously since she had gotten it, she could take it, but I was not able to advise her on it. The vial she had did not say how many milligrams of Ivermectin was in each milliliter, and unless you know the number of milligrams you can't calculate the dose correctly. I wrote a post earlier tonight on how to find a telemed doctor who can prescribe Ivermectin, and how to find a pharmacy that will sell it. At FLCCC.net I will be posting here, more over the weekend. But - FLCCC.net has lists of doctors and pharmacies for the US mainly. Are you in US, or Australia?
Yup, same here. Solvet liquid is a great product. The enclosed instructions tell you how much ivermectin is in each ml of solution and the box contains the appropriate size syringe, so accurate dosing by weight is a cinch for anyone with a $5 Chinese calculator.
As long as the dosage is weight appropriate, if it doesn't kill a horse, it won't kill you. Think about it, most medicines are first tested on animals. I have had dogs and cats over the last 30 years, they get the same drugs we do. Sometimes, if the vet is out of a drug, I get a prescription filled at the pharmacy. The important factor is to measure medicine according to weight. I have yet to have a medicine prescribed for one of my dogs, or cats, which is not also prescribed for people.
I have given Ivermectin to my horses for 20+ years and it's even safe to *double* dose horses for a certain neck threadworm. Horses have the most fragile digestive system and I feel certain if they can tolerate IVM even at double dosages then humans should not have a problem unless allergic or some other issue.
Here in USA, the "horse paste" form is readily available. I can honestly say that I've not yet taken any (my 1st case of Covid-19 last summer was mild.) And as a disclaimer, I by no means recommend using such a product except for the labeled uses.
A quick bit of advice: if you are self medicating, with whatever product, it really shouldn't be that hard to figure out the "right" dosage. What source to rely upon to get that information, I leave up to you. Most products are labelled as to how much active drug it contains. It is up to you with (I assume) a calculator, to figure your correct dose. In fact, it' possible with pencil and paper too. You only need basic math skills. If you don't feel capable of doing so, then you're best avoiding pretending to be doctor and you are probably better off just going to the regular doctor.
I don't know how other nation are, but the product warnings are grotesquely humorous. Here are some quotes from the "horse paste" product:
"Not for use in humans." OK, that's probably pretty standard. Different manufacturing quality control and all that. Probably some truth to it. But, given some of the horror stories about human products (e.g. the "vaccines") I wouldn't lose much sleep over whatever QC differences there may be between animal and human medications.
"...specifically formulated for use in horses only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result." I looked that up and again, strictly speaking, it's true. It's all about the dose folks. Yes, if a human took a horse sized dose, that's asking for trouble, although it's my understanding that ivermectin has low toxicity. The dog warning is true, but only for select breeds. As with humans, ivermectin is used in dog products too. The FDA would apparently have us believe that harms are only possible when using a horse med off-label, but that it couldn't possibly happen when using the dog or human products.
"Environmental safety" -- disposal warnings and risk of contamination including "excreted residues" may be harmful to aquatic life. Again, perhaps true. But the tube of horse paste contains a whopping 113 mg of pure Ivermectin. Just how toxic can it be in small quantities? Is Farmer Brown liable for environmental damage when his mare urinates in the field, potentially contaminating groundwater?
The above are examples of government mandated warnings that have a grain of truth, but our nanny-state governments have blown them so far out of proportion that now they are mangled caricatures of what they would be in an optimal world: guides for common sense. As with many well intended (?) policies, it's likely that such hyperbole will have the adverse effect, that in general people will ignore the warnings since they've become accustomed to most of them being irrelevant.
Follow your own instincts, Bibi, but I want to assure you that (at least in my family's experience) the vet horse paste is perfectly fine. My mom (86) has been on it preventively (low dose every week or 2) for about two years -- no side effects, NO Covid. I got Delta last year, but only AFTER becoming complacent and failing to take the same preventive doses. Note: Though treatment doses are .3 or .4 mg/kg daily, the standard/preventive dose (.2 mg/kg) doesn't need to be high or frequent, because the substance apparently wipes out (or stops replication) of the bug before there is enough of it to require higher concentrations. While Covid is still circulating commonly, I strongly suggest that people consider bi-weekly doses of IVM as a prophylactic. See Dr. Lenny DaCosta's testimony here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bsvK95i6njvd/
I got a tube of paste from an animal supply store. I started small and rubbed it on the bottom feet, put socks on cuz it is a tad greasy. I put a dab on my wrist, inside my elbows and on the back of my knees. I am still alive and didn't get Covid.
It is identical. All the meds get their IVM from a handful of manufacturers. All my friends and family got the 1% sterile IVM prep for animals and it worked fine with no problems. Just syringe out the correct dose and put it in water to drink with food. The solution it is in is safe for humans. You can also use the IVM horse paste - all the ingredients in there are also safe. My friend who did all these nutritional things for her covid still got very ill and had to get IVM to knock it out - I wouldn't want to take the chance and go thru covid without it.
I used horse paste version with absolutely no problems. You learn how to dose it (the dose is about the size of a pencil eraser) based on 50 lb notches on the dispenser. Three notches for me. Mixed it with applesauce, and it worked like a charm (along with quercitin, melatonin, NAC, vit D, vit C, and zinc)
Well, keep in mind that for humans for Covid, the recommended dose is now 0.4 mg. per kg. unless it is severe and then you go to 0.6 mg. per kg of body weight. You convert your own weight to kilograms, and then multiply times either 0.4 or 0.6, and that is the number of milligrams you need. Your dose is NOT going to be proportional to what cattle need for parasites. Another person posted - which I just now read - that she understood the horse paste, which she used, led her to end up with a dose that was 0.2 mg. per kg, going by the horse instructions, which was not a strong enough dose for her and she became very ill and had lung damage - which may not have occurred if she had known to take a stronger dose. Basically just because a "50 pound" marker shows what a 50 pound animal should have - doesn't give you the number of milligrams you need. So, the risk of underdosing is a problem for people who use the veterinary form. From what I can understand of what the other poster had said, I think if she had doubled her dose she may have avoided the severe illness and lung damage, though I would not say for sure because I do not have horse paste in my hand to look at the label and see whether I could truly calculate a human dose from it. The only way I know how to dose humans is to know their weight, convert to kilograms, and then multiply x 0.4 to get 0.4 mg. per kg - and write a prescription for a compounded prescription from a compounding pharmacy. On the other hand if you are in a country where it is impossible to get the human form of Ivermectin, I can understand people using the veterinary products, But I have known people who badly underdosed themselves by miscalculating. I have known multiple families who had gotten the liquid form of Ivermectin that is "for injection" for cattle - and it doesn't say anywhere on the bottle how many milligrams are in it - it just says for a cow of such and weight, give so much of the liquid. But it led to a the people involved receiveing perhaps only a tenth of what they should have had. I tried to explain this on another substack and was criticized by others who thought I was an idiot to give this caution because basically anyone can do the math and figure the correct dose, but I now know for a fact that least some of the solutions for injection - which the people I know took by mouth using a medicine dropper - were not labeled properly for them to be able to calculate a human dose - because the number of milligrams were not given. I was later able to see a photo of the labeled bottle, do some searching online to get the additional info needed - and when I calculated it out, they had hugely underdosed themeselves which is why they had taken weeks and weeks of misery to get well from Covid. Everyone knows that some people do use the horse paste, and some people feel it was helpful - and it may be, but I truly think that when it is possible to get the human form that is the way to do it. As a health professional, I do not recommend the veterinary forms even semi-anonymously due in part to concern I could be discovered by medical board and it would likely not be forgiven, but honestly, the labeling of this products is NOT designed to make it easy for humans to calculate their own dose for Covid - it may say so much for an animal of this size, but what horses or cows or cats take for parasites is NOT going to be identical or proportional to what you may need for Covid. To help find an actual medical doctor who prescibes Covid meds including Ivermectin this link can help you: https://covid19criticalcare.com/providers/ There is a way to search for US doctors, which is most of them (also nurse practioners and physician assistants) but also a place to click for international, and I'm sure they don't have every country but they do have doctors in some countries outside U.S. WIthin US they have a listing of prescribers who are licensed in multiple states and some who are licensed in all states, who do telemed, and then also there listings by state for doctors in your state who treat Covid. The same website also has a tab for "resources" that lists pharmacies where you can obtain Covid meds including Ivermectin but I don't know if they list for other countries, and I get that in some countries you have zero access to Ivermectin, and of course in that case, people will do what they feel they must do to take care of themselves. Besides Ivermectin there are many other meds that can help, and many non-prescription supplements that are surprisingly helpful. I am planning to post on some of these over the weekend. In some cases, I have had to treat patients who had several risk factors and moderately severe illness where I could not access Ivermectin but nonetheless, they recovered without hospitalization and without complications - but - Ivermectin is usually extremely helpful, and I can't fault anyone for using it out of desperation, only the risk is, you may not take enough to do you the good that it could do. Because they do not provide information on human dosing on a veterinary product. I see you used Quercetin, melatonin, NAC, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, and zinc. All of those things are very helpful for Covid. With Quercetin, Dr. David Moskowitz published on this, and he was getting people well using Quercetin 500 mg. two capsules twice a day - normally that is very, very safe, and he has seen excellent efficacy and apparently he has used it from the beginning without needing Ivermectin - and the main caution is, anyone on Coumadin (a blood thinner) should not take it as it may affect the Coumadin level and cause a serious problem. Other than that, there are no medication interactions I would worry about except it is said there may be a minor interaction between Quercetin and Ivermectin in that one can increase the levels of the other. I don't really think of that as a problem, but some say, just don't take Quercetin and Ivermectin at the same time - for example, take Quercetin in the morning, and then take Ivermectin after lunch, and then because they are separated by several hours, you avoid the problem. But my thought is, if one is on Ivermectin 0.4 mg. per kg but the max recommended for Covid is 0.6 mg. per kg - if the level was increased a bit, you are probably still within the recommended range. It is also believed that Ivermectin is very safe even at higher levels than what you would acheive from 0.6 mg. per kg dose - so I don't believe it is anything to worry about, and I have never seen problems taking both. Quercetin has to be twice a day because it does wear off during the day, so to get the full benefit it is twice a day. Ivermectin is normally given just one time of day, but it does need to be given after a meal, otherwise the levels are too low - you absorb it better and achieve higher blood levels if the food and digestive enzymes are there, so food first and then right away, Ivermectin. And to be cautious, just take Quercetin at a different time, first thing in a..m. and again at bedtime, for example or evening.
Dosing is really not a problem; .4mg/kg is twice the horse dose, so you just double your weight, and count the notches. I must add that a PREVENTATIVE dose of .2mg/kg every two weeks has kept my mom (86) Covid-free since the start, so IMHO people should seriously consider that tactic. Results in India described here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bsvK95i6njvd/
Preventive dose is ideally at least once a week. In Argentina, there was a study in which healthcare professionals caring for Covid patients had a choice of no med vs. Ivermectin 0.2 mg/kg. The ones with no med - 58% got Covid. The ones in Ivermectin group, zero got Covid. There have been other studies - once a month didn't work out too well, somebody wondered if taking Ivermectin every two weeks would do the job - the results were in between what was seen for 0.2 mg. / kg once a week vs every 4 weeks. In the every 2 week study, when you looked at cmparison on no meds, it was better than doing nothing at all, but not as good as the once a week group. If you really want to be sure you don't get Covid once a week was the best - until - one of the new variants came out, multipled faster, and got ahead of the once a week dosing. Dr. Pierre Kory was on Ivermectin once a week and got Covid anyway - considering the delta variant, it was decided that twice a week at 0.2 mg. / kg might be better, and that is what the FLCCC doctors started recommending and what I would tell people. If they want to prevent, twice a week. Well, now after Omicron, the FLCCC physicians changed the recommendation again to once a week if you are in a risk group - but so many are. If you are overweight or if you are low in Vitamin D which many are, you are at increased risk even if you are not 80 years old. Anyway, I am in favor of anyone preventing who wants to, and not only with Ivermectin, but I have been telling people, twice a week since delta and I didn't cut back to once a week. There keep being new variants, if you want to be sure, take Ivermectin twice a week and that is likely to be fine. With the original Covid, once a week did very well but since then - twice a week makes sense to me.
But another thing you can do that does make a big difference - I would not rely on this alone - but there is research showing that you can get an antiseptic mouthwash - I remember one of hte ones that was studied was Kool Mint Listerine, probably any of the Listerine flavors would be the same antiseptic, also Crest and Scope mouthwashes were studied, and then more recently there has been study of a mouthwash containing Xylitol, which is Spry brand. What you do, gargle with the mouthwash for about one minute before you go to work or go wherever you are going. For the next 4 to 6 hours, if you breathe in some virus from someone you do not know is sick - maybe this is the day they are about to turn positive and they don't know it yet, or they have sniffles and think it is allergy but really it's Covid etc. - if you breathe in the virus, it goes through nasal passages and down your throat, and some viruses may stay in the region - which is why when you test for Covid, they are checking the nasal area, and also some of the research afterward, to see how long do people shed virus, they measure in the throat. So anyway, what if you have some antispectic from the mouthwash lingering in your throat waiting to meet the virus where it lands? If you gargle every four hours through the day, you will be protected the whole time. If you have gone a little past 4 hours, it's wearing off, maybe there is a bit of virus trying to get started - then you gargle, it's probably gone. Anyway they had great results with mouthwash. In addition, you can do one of several things for the nose. You can take the same mouthwash and put it on a Q tip and swab the inside of the nose, or there are articles about how you can mix up an iodine solution which I think is too much trouble to explain and teach, but you can search to find that, but it's messy, OR you can buy a nasal spray containing Xylitol, the brand name is Xlear and it is available on Amazon. I am aware that some of the best doctors who treat outpatient Covid have started using the Xylitol mouthwash (Spry) plus the Xylitol nasal spray (Xlear) while treating patients and they are treating Covid patients and this seems to be helping. But there is published research that shows it reduces the risk. I would not say to quit Ivermectin in favor of only mouthwash / nasal spray, but if you can't get Ivermectin, this actually is beneficial. Apparently this is what the dentists have been doing all through the pandemic, and it is in expensive and doesn't need a prescription. So I have bought Xylitol mouthwash. I think the nasal spray is a good idea, but I'm mostly working from home, and I have other forms of prevention that have worked fine through the pandemic, so I have not tried the nasal spray.
About dosing veterinary Ivermectin. Probably in the US all the horse paste is required to be labeled the same way, but there are other veterinary forms. There is one form of a liquid that is sprayed on like an insect repellant and has additional ingredients, so it is only for external use, AND the liquid for injection is not labeled in a way where you can calculate it just from the package - and it is NOT the same as the horse paste, it is actually weaker. Could be that since you are injecting it and it's byapssing the digestive system, it does not need to be as strong because it is a more effective method - or different animal, different dosing. But Not all forms of veterinary Ivermectin are going to be easy to figure the dose, and the one liquid is ONLY for external use and should not be used for Covid. If you are sure your horse paste works out like that, good, I have not used or recommended horse paste, have not seen the labeling, so I couldn't say, but good if it works that way and you know to double it. Since the current dosing for humans is not on the package, people would have to know to double the weight if that does give the correct dose. I can't click on the link while I have this comment box in progress, but I will look at it later. I get the human form myself and that is what I prescribe, but it would good to learn everything possible - ah, I see results in India is what the link is - the results in India were amazing, and they mostly use the 12 mg. tablets there but their people tend to be smaller than us, so it worked out. The first time I used Ivermectin, I had gone to the CDC website and looked up Ivermectin, they of course said "Very dangerous, do not use for humans" (paraphrased) so I had hesitated, but then I saw the results in India, and to figure out the correct dose, I looked at the "Covid kits" India was giving out - a zip lock baggie with meds including three 12mg Ivermectin tablets, so with my first two Ivermectin patients, an elderly couple who were quite sick with Covid and not getting better, I gave them each a 12 mg. dose for three days, and they started improving greatly within 24 hours. Later, I learned that it's not truly one-size-fits-all, and you calculate the dose by weight. I had underdosed them, and they had a number of risk factors and were severe enough they really were sick enough to have been admitted, but their primary doctor had already just told them they were well enough to stay home - so I thought I would try, and they did respond quickly to even that 12 mg. dose.
If you are not vaccinated your natural immunity with c ..zinc and quercetin should be enough. As you know in Canberra very few have got really unwell who were not sick with other illness before. This new wave will probs hit us in winter. Prevention is way to handle it. You notice in Canberra people coughing in shopping centres (some may never clear it) and we had one of highest Vax rates?
The higher levels of vitamin D should be taken with vitamin K2. D can increase the amount of Calcium in the blood and Vitamin K2 will help the bones absorb it. Calcium in the walls of the arteries can cause hardening. One can buy Vitamin D with K2 in one capsule.
Hope I’m not overstepping since I se that a healthcare professional has already answered your question. As far as I can see, the active ingredient in the human and veterinary forms are the exact same substance. There are some additives in the veterinary form that I could live without but I have used both for the past 2 1/2 years. They both work well. For me, they have been a miracle since I always develop a long-term cough with viral infections. Not any more! Just be sure to take enough, this makes a big difference. I always take at least 0.4 mgs per kg these days. Best of luck!
Antedotally I heard ivm absorbs topically as well. 1tsp and you smell like apples. Apply to Thin skin area like inner thigh or neck. Go slow just in case but if sick I would look up the Flccc protocol.
Quercetin is an alternative to iver. If they ban it, you can make it yourself from grapefruit &/or orange peels. Recipes on line; really just a strong infusion, then add a sweetener. Also kale is high in it.
Safe & healthy as a preventive, too.
Take with zinc; it helps upload the zinc into cells.
Buy horse paste - you can get it from Amazon - it is the cheapest way to go - I take it every day (Tractor Supply is where I get it usually because it is cheap there)
Yup... we love it too... we are heading over there in a couple hours with our new Cane Corso puppy... let her pick out a toy and maybe a treat... fun stuff.
Hey, Lawrence, how are you doing? I love your newsletter! I'm in Switzerland so I'm not sure I can get it via horse supply shops. It's dead cheap from India. Don't let the b****rds get you down in 2023!
I have ordered twice from Buyivermectin24.com. I also got Hydroxychloroquine from them and keep a supply of that. It comes from India and I have been using it as a prophylactic. So far so good. Go to the FLCCC site for good recommendations on Covid prevention and treatment.
Early on my GP told me that he was prescribing ivermectin with good results. I wanted a prescription before a trip to the Dominican Republic. He told me he could no longer prescribe it because a major health insurer threatened reporting him to the medical board if he continued to prescribe it.
It took about 3 weeks. The price was good and the packaging was excellent with each pill in its own section of the strips. I got 300 12mg tablets of ivermectin and 60 250mg tablets of azithromycin delivered for $244.80. There are discounts and free delivery based on volume.
I take 18mg of ivermectin once a week. I weigh 200 lbs and that is the dose recommended. Along with the ivermectin, I take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, quercetin and black seed oil. Go to the covid19criticalcare website and read the protocols for detailed recommendations.
That's really interesting. I don't know if you know the Book of Revelation? Wormwood is mentioned as the name of an asteroid that will hit the Earth during this period. Apparently we are due a 'near miss' (Don't Look Up) in Apr 2029 of an asteroid called Apophis.
20 drops in juice.. One to 3 times daily. I use the liquid. The capsule probably has mag sterate. Which actually defeats the purpose. I take 2 times weekly for prevention. Only I take in lemon water. Good luck.
I am going to post something about Quercetin tomorrow or the next day, hopefully tomorrow (New Years Eve or New Years Day), it is after 3 a.m. here and I'm too tired at the moment. But Querceint has been used successfully as a main treatment by Dr. David Moskowitz who published on this in 2020. He used 500 mg. two capsules twice a day, and I strongly urge zinc along with it 50 mg. twice a day. Quercetin is a natural supplement and not prescription, comes from apples and various fruits and vegetables. A lot of doctors who treat Covid recommend Quercetin as part of the mix, along with other things, like, in addition to Ivermectin, but Quercetin without Ivermectin has been effective according to Dr. Moskowitz, and I had contacted him a few times to inquire if it is still working, he says yes, he still uses it successfully even since the variants. So I suggest that for one thing. I am a prescriber, a health care professional, and I do treat Covid - hopefully this is something you can access there. Other nonprescription items, Vitamin D makes more difference than you would think, I had written a long post tonight and then got an automated message it was too long and I needed to cut, so I'm too tired to re-organize what I said, but I will - but anyway, Black Cumin otherwise known as Black Seed, from the nigella sativa plant has been used for some thousands of years in Asia / Middle East, and there was an excellent piece of research showing this is effective for Covid, and perhaps even moreso than Ivermectin, though I have been relying on Ivermectin much more than the "Black Seed." On the other hand, because it is non-prescription, I also bought up a supply of "Black Seed" capsules which I have been able to share with family. I am not permitted to treat family members and particularly in other states, but there is no law against sharing non-prescription supplements with an ill family member. Look for my posts over the weekend. I am breaking up a long one into several smaller ones and perhaps some will be helpful. Quercetin, Black Seed, Vitamin D, zinc, and NAC (n-acetylcysteine), if you can get most of these and take them -there are prevention doses and treatment doses - hopefully you can access all of these in Australia. And none of these should require prescriptions. If you look at FLCCC.net and check their prevention protocol and their early outpatient treatment protocol you may get additional ideas. Melatonin at bedtime is good - not just for sleep but because it is in every cell in your body and Covid wipes it out - and one aspirin tablet daily which helps to get rid of spike protein, unless you are allergic to aspirin or on Coumadin or blood thinners or just can't take it for some reason. Aspirin one tablet a day, not for prevention, but for if you get Covid, one aspirin daily after eating a meal, and continue for month, same with NAC, continue for a while after Covid as it cleans up toxins etc. My first Covid patient was a homeless person with multiple risk factors, and I didn't know anything about Ivermectin at that time, and hydroxychloroquine was illegal in my state for Covid, so I had to use other things - I did give her a couple of prescriptions, but kept her out of the hospital without any Ivermectin or HCQ, and she did quite well. I gave her Doxycyline, an antibiotic with antiviral effects, zinc 50 mg. twice a day, colchicine which is a med for gout, but because of its anti-inflammatory effects it also helps Covid. So I did give prescriptions, but there are things that work other than only Ivermectin or HCQ though I appreciate how wonderfully both of these work, and I would want Ivermectin for myself and any patients, having seen it time and again. HCQ is also excellent, but where I am, it can only be used if a person has one of the approved conditions such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, or for travel to an area where there is malaria. But I do have patients who have had approved conditions who have been protected from Covid as a "side effect," and patients who were off their HCQ but who have an approved condition who went back on HCQ for prevention or treatment of Covid with good results. But I don't have a lot of experience with HCQ because of the restrictions here. Anyway - good night and I will be posting more over the weekend. Don't feel hopeless if you can't get Ivermectin, and I understand about Australia. In the US, anyone should be able to get Ivermectin but for anyone who can't obtain it, there are things that work.
I've been making native sarsaparilla (Smilax glyciphylla) tea, which is a strong golden colour from all the natural quercetin. Quercetin is generally high in fruits which are yellow: lemon/grapefruit peel, yellow capsicum, ripe mango, golden delicious apples, and also capers (which are not particularly yellow)
I have noticed that Dr. M no longer seems to tweet about Quercetin and I was wondering if he still recommends it. Did you discuss it with him recently? I found his track record to be impressive.
I never followed Dr. Moskowitz on twitter, so I don't know about his tweets, but when I first read his article about Quercetin, I emailed him actually through Researchgate, and he answered all my questions, and I looked up articles about Quercetin, and my husband and I, and our daughter, all started using it for prevention - he had told me he and his med students and residents were all taking 500 mg. one twice a day for prevention; he said they were treating Covid patients and none of them got Covid, so he was also recommending that to his patients. Then he was treating patients with 500 mg. two capsules twice a day. So that is how I have done it even though I have noticed some of the other doctors who publish are using lesser doses of Quercetin. But he said nobody was having any side effects or difficulty at those doses and it seemed to work, and that is my experience. But then I recontacted him, probably within the past couple months, so, many variants later, and he said it is still working, still has not had problems with it, no side effects to worry about that he has seen, and again, it's on that list from the FDA for "Generally Recognized as Safe" - though as I think I mentioned, I would not give it to anyone on the blood thinner Coumadin because it is necessary to have the Coumadin levels exactly right, and there is a reason that Quercetin might affect the Coumadin levels. But overall, still working, still safe. I didn't read about Coumadin being an issue and he didn't say, but there is a reason I would not recommend it. But he said he is still using the same doses, except sometimes for treatment he just uses 500 mg one twice a day, and then increasing if necessary. He says it is working great for treatment and he thinks it may not be necessary to go as high with the dose as what he had originally used. I usually go with the original doses, though. A lot of people come to me later, after their regular primary doctor did not do anything useful for them, and by the time they get to me, it's a bit later in the course and maybe a bit more severe, and I don't want to monkey around with a lower dose, I have stuck with his original dose, but usually I can access Ivermectin for my patients, so I can't say for sure - is Quercetin really making a difference? Because there is a lot of data on Ivermectin indicating it works, and I've seen that in my patients, so if we also using Quercetin, I don't know for sure if Quercetin is adding benefit or not. But Dr. M. originally used this as a sole treatment and it worked, before anyone was talking about Ivermectin. And my husband and I originally used this as our prevention before I had ever heard of Ivermectin. But he's been using it as a main treatment and main prevention - he was a little less confident more recently about prevention, and I didn't really press him on that - but I'm thinking, if it works for treatment, why would not also help with prevention. Anyway, I think when people do not have access to Ivermectin or lack of access due to cost, Quercetin is a good one to use since you don't need a prescription for it. The biggest drawback I've seen in using it is that none of our local health food stores or pharmacies carry it locally, so you have to order it through Amazon or some other online store and if you need it today, you don't need to order it and have it arrive a week or 10 days later. Plus the cost has gone up some but it is still relatively affordable. But because I have not seen it locally here, I don't always tell my patients about it actually. I am more likely to give them Ivermectin if we can get it, and then IF they have Quercetin or can get it, I recommend it as an add-on. Where Dr. M. has used it first, and as a main treatment and prevention. Oh, but there are several reasons why I am certain it will continue to work. 1) Quercetin is an anti-inflammatory, and Covid is an inflammatory illness, so it is going to help some. 2) Quercetin, I understand, is also an anti-oxidant, and with Covid, you need anti-oxidants to protect from damage that would otherwise occur. [So #1 and #2 are not really directly trying to kill off the virus, but helping to control the illness itself. The virus is there, but it helps to calm the inflammation in your body, and acting at the molecular level to stop tissue damage. But, #3 - Quercetin is said to be an ionophore which opens the gates in your cells to let zinc get into your cells. Zinc has been shown to hinder replication of the Covid virus in your cells, and actually zinc stops something like 17 different viruses that we know of. So, you want to take zinc 30 to maybe up to 50 mg. a day during "prevention" but for treatment, if you have Covid, you take 50 mg. of zinc twice a day. And Quercetin helps zinc to get into your cells so zinc can do its job. For these reasons, I think no matter what the variant, Quercetin will be helpful though you want to take it with zinc and you probably want to ideally use a mix of things anyway and not rely on Q. solely. But it's not like the virus might get reistant to it or something, because it's action is not to kill the virus directly, just to do what it naturally does in our bodies. And yes, I think Dr. Moskowitz is amazing. I got off twitter a while back for several reasons, but now that McCulough and others are back on, I am on twitter again, so I should follow Dr. M. and read his old tweets. Well, and very nice that Igor is back on twitter also. I like the new management there. :-)
Just a note: Zinc in doses over 40 mg per day will deplete copper, so that ought to be supplemented in parallel. Then again, perhaps just a few days of excess zinc intake does not have a substantial impact on the copper levels.
Thanks so much for that very useful and comprehensive response. Your posts are front line boots on the ground information-very important to people like myself that don't have any close reliable contacts in the medical community.
Try India. There is a pharmaceutical clearing house called Indiamart that has plenty of suppliers. And it's dirt cheap. https://corporate.indiamart.com/
I'm in the UK and have twice bought 12mg human grade IVM from India, no customs probs and arrived very quickly by tracked airmail. Worked out at about £8 per box of 100 pills including shipping, I bought 5 boxes each time. Bought from Kachhela Medex (initially via Indiamart), they gave the clearest quotes and have been very efficient. I have no affiliation with them!
As to if it works my only experience was when my son then wife had the virus last winter, I took IVM prophylactically and then when I became ill I took extra, I was only ill one day. They were both ill (not very bad) for about a week (but wouldn't risk the horse medicine!)
I used ivermectin.com They sell some sort of adjunct "sanitiser" which is what I think helps them get past various customs, though you can buy without the sanitiser if you choose. It ships from USA but they do ship internationally. Total 50 12 mg tablets, no sanitiser, w/international shipping will be in the $140 USD range. I have no affiliation, and do read the sales pages VERY CAREFULLY. It did all work out fine for me, and I have my stash.
After looking at the page again, if shipping internationally, you have to buy the Germ stuff. Not just the pills alone. Sorry, but at least they are reliable. I ordered from them and got it right away. Now you only have to concern yourself with your customs. Good luck.
Try equine and farm supply vendors. The ivermectin for animal treatment is produced to very high standards. One need only ensure to adjust the dose, which is calculated by weight.
A gal I met on Twitter who lives 30 miles away got it for me from India. I will write her to get the information. $450 is way too much!! I'll get back to you.
Same. Got mine for pennies from India, along with a z-pack stash. Just took 6 weeks and in US they started confiscating at customs- not sure if they still do.
You have horses is Sweden, right? And sheep? And goats? And cattle? Go to any equine or farm supply store (online or brick and mortar) and buy either the liquid or the paste forms of Ivermectin (the liquid is easier for accurate dosing). Ivermectin for animal husbandry is the same drug as Ivermectin for human use: "Rose is a Rose is a Rose".
I have got the paste for horses, but I am not sure about the dosage since its mixed with this paste, so I have not touched it yet. I got some ivermectin sent from Thailand that was intended for cattle also, and that was great because it was unblended and in tablet form and it said on the bottle exactly how much Ivermectin a tablet contained. But my contact in Thailand moved to another country and have not been able to provide any more Ivermectin.
But you are right. Thank you, I will look at animal medicine again.
Dosing with the horse paste is easy, Emma; use the same pound-for-pound dose suggested for the horses. You are a 60 kg (130 lb.) horse as far as the medicine is concerned (About 3 notches on the syringe). This is .2 mg/kg, the "Normal" dose every week or two for prevention. Since doctors are now suggesting .4 mg/kg, if you become ill you would take a "120 kg horse" dose daily. Don't worry about being accurate, overdoses of IVM need to be massive (like 10x) before any problems occur. It's a very forgiving medicine.
You can get it pretty easily from India, no prescription necessary. Find an online source, then ask as many questions as you need to, so you can trust it. We've done this twice, with two different sources, both of whom were honest and provided the product. The ivermectin, BTW, comes in original manufacturer packaging. It's for human use, not veterinary.
Alldaychemistdotcom. No “s” at the end of “chemist” which would take you to a different website. It’s where we get ours at reasonable prices. Takes 2-3 weeks.
Lugol is better. Hydrogen peroxide works very well, too. As you probably know, it needs to be heavily diluted in saline before nebulization or you will burn your tissues.
Niacin by itself can work as well, just not quite as much. Dr Dmitry Kats himself found that Niacin monotherapy alone worked reasonably well back in 2020. I take flush Niacin from time to time with other vitamins.
Are you in Canberra / Australia? I felt debilitatingly tired for 2 days. Could not do anything. Just slept and listened to some guided meditation. I had a bit of runny nose and tearings from the eyes, dry cough and headache, body aches. I went on water fast immediately. Today is my third day and I am a bit better (can use internet, talk to people, type this, do a bit of a housework) but still coughing (that dry cough). I am unvaccinated and never wore a mask. I am a bit concerned that (if this is covid) it might be the kind that attacks the brain (because of a Headache) and/or lungs (because of persistent dry cough). Silly I know. Sometimes silly thoughts just come to my mind and stay there for a while. (but not for too long)
Hi Bibi. I hope you feel better soon. I’m not sure that fasting is the best way to get through an illness. Perhaps your body needs nutrients and energy?
At all accounts, you have made the right decision to not let them vaxxinate you. After your illness is over, you will have a strong immunity that the vaxxinated will not have.
Look into saline/colloidal silver nasal washes. My understanding is that if you reduce the viral load in the sinuses, it helps to limit the risk of neural issues. (Not a medical professional here ~ just what I've heard.)
I've been a neti user for many years. It didn't prevent me getting Covid (one mild case last summer) but "in principle" it makes sense that it rinses out viruses and other baddies. In my case, I use it for the less controversial purpose of reducing nasal congestion. Xlear is also a OTC product that helps loosen clogged sinuses.
Another "fringe" treatment is to add iodine to neti or nasal spray. With amusement, I note (similar to my ivermectin post elsewhere) you can find "official" warning against such "unapproved" use, since iodine is toxic. Yes it is potentially, but if you do a bit of research, you'd have to literally eat or drink quantities far, far greater than you'd ever be exposed to in using a nasal snort or a gargle. You know, if I didn't know better, I would suspect that the media deliberately distort facts to suit a desired agenda. I must be suffering from some sort of delusion. At my next office visit, I'll ask my psychiatrist if he can give me a drug to prevent such anti-social thoughts!
Years ago, I had sinus problems caused by a hiatal hernia and had to have sinus surgery to correct the sinus problems. After the surgery I was instructed to do daily nasal rinses using a NeilMed 8 ounce squeeze bottle filled with warm distilled water mixed with a packet of NeilMed Sinus Rinse powder (don't forget this or your nasal passages will burn.). I have kept up this daily nasal wash since then and in the winter months I do the nasal rinses twice a day.
No. I am in the US. My DIL's 85 year old grandfather was in the hospital with covid two weeks ago. He has other medical issues, so he was more suseptible to covid symptoms. He did have a headache while he was in the hospital. The Drs said he would receive the same meds that were given to President Trump when he had covid.
If you aren't doing this, take zinc, Vitamin C, Quercetin, etc for your symptoms. Praying you feel better soon. 🙏
Jonm thank so much! I am all good now. Went on 11km hike, had to stop a few times but made it! Still fasting 5th Day. Feeling great. I never took the test so have no idea was it C19 or not. Cough resolved on its own, didn't take anything for it but drank Lemon balm tea often. Thank you for your encouragement! Great to hear your wife is well and thriving.
Make sure that you take an ionophore if you are taking zinc, because zinc needs some help to get into cells. Quercetin is a common nutritional ionophore, but needs some vitamin C and maybe some bromelain, which is frequently compounded with it.
Correct. It is a great zinc ionophore. And Quercetin itself also has anti-viral and anti-inflammatory benefits in it's own right as well. Add some Vitamin C, and now you've really got a good synergistic trio!
Turtles indeed. Igor, the case example you ended with is instructive, i.e. don't brush this off lightly, BUT it's a sample size of one. That person very likely has a compromised immune response from boosting. How have the less vaxed/unvaxed fared so far? Too soon for reliable data?
Indeed, for people who DON'T have VAIDS, this new strain is most likely a nothingburger for the most part. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe. Stay healthy and take your vitamins anyway regardless though.
As a 62 a year old, who did not fall for the lies and propaganda, and whose wife was almost convinced by her cardiac specialists to take the jab, I had a hell of a time trying to convince her, that other experts the likes of Peter McCulloch were not offering the same advice. She listened to me and other experts, had open heart surgery, and we believe, her immune system helped her to mend faster because of the vitamin regimin the good doctors had reccomended. We had been taking them 4 months out from her op. These were Vitamin d, quecertin, zink, fish oil, NAC ( to help heal ) and good old vitamin C. We live in Oz and just experienced the latest wave of Covid. This was the first time either of us has been ill since this began and to be honest, it was like a very mild flu. Our 62 year old immune systems worked fine, yet our children who live in a different part of the country succumb to it over 6 ago months were very defensive when I referred to it as a " cold". They claimed it was more like a bad flu. Bad flu them, mild flu us....the difference....our kids are double vaxxed ....I have never been so medically informed, so disillusioned with mainstream medicine and so convinced that vitamins beat fake vaccines for effacacy, in my life.....
Our regimen too, since this began, d, c zinc and quercetin plus nac. 70 plus. Were ill for the first time only this past sep/oct and, with hcq added, recovered within a week.
Glad your wife ultimately knew who had her best interests at heart.
Ioannidis J.P, et .al, Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population, Environmental Research, Volume 216, Part 3, 1 January 2023
Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, Stanford, CA, USA
Just think about that... 64.5 million needles stuck in arms - for what?!?!?!?
This is the most disgusting exploitation of people, not only the pressure to succumb to unnecessary and potentially harmful medical interventions, but also that the diabolical Covid 'response' was used to steal people's freedom, to make them submit to incarceration in their homes in 'lockdowns', preventing free movement and association, and muzzling people with masks.
This is what 'public health' looks like, oppression of the people under the guise of a manufactured crisis.
Agreed that this is the biggest crime EVER. The sad part is that there have been 64 million instances of people being fundamentally stupid and ignorant - some clearly multiple times. My word, what a gullible (not to use a more appropriate word) population Oz has overall.
Yes...if government statistics are to be believed...and it's a 'big iff', a helluva lot of people in Australia have been jabbed.
It was the mandates that cornered people, being cancelled out of civil society if people wouldn't comply with the jabs.
Not sure where you are, but I suspect Australia is one of the most jabbed countries in the world under mandates. I don't think the UK had these mandates. Sure, they were pushed heavily to get the jabs, but not mandated. And the NHS refused the mandates after they were pushed through the UK Parliament.
Whereas in Australia, in most states, people were pressured, coerced and manipulated to have the jabs - people couldn't do much without the jabs.
No Jab, No Job for example, governments, companies, businesses, were insisting on people being jabbed.
Similarly state/territory governments had a range of jab mandates, demanding that people be jabbed to go to restaurants, entertainment, shopping. People had to sign in with QR codes, being under surveillance everywhere.
It was out of control. Some people are still mandated to get the jabs, e.g. in 'health care', but the jabs are worse than rubbish, and people are being coerced to have them over and over again, with no idea of the long-term cumulative effects, and potential disruption of the natural immune response.
Informed consent has been destroyed.
For the past year and a half I've written to the regulator of health practitioners (AHPRA), doctors' professional organisations (the AMA, RACGP, RACP), politicians, the media, raising over and over again the conflict between the obligation for 'informed consent' and the coercive jab rollout.
No-one would take any action to address the situation.
And now millions of people are jabbed. They've been misinformed about the danger, and tricked into having the jabs.
I'm reeling from how bad it is here. How we've been betrayed by politicians and bureaucrats.
The entire country has been set up to be jab fodder for ever more.
A deal has been done to set up a Moderna factory in Victoria, it's the same in the UK and Canada.
It definitely is Fascism. I live WA and I was out of work when my employer decided to go all in with this jabbing garbage. When I spoke up about the idiocy around and the jabs, I was labelled a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer. The issue that I have is that the population has been so cowardly, ignorant and completely lacking critical thinking, it is embarrassing. The medical community in particular should have been up in arms about this horror and yet, 9 out of 10 went along with the jabbing just to keep their paycheck. Pathetic. If they would have quit en-mass, none of this would have happened. Despicable how they are ready to go on strike over pay but not save their useless behinds. The politicians would have backed down and been thrown out of office. My colleagues, who most people would consider intelligent and educated showed that they are useless drones with the critical thinking capacity of a door knob. I do not feel sorry for the medical staff that are still getting jabbed to keep their jobs - they will pay the price soon enough as they are the most jabbed of the lot. I do hope to see the local wannabe emperor locked for the rest of his days along with his clique and every single official at the department of Harm aka Health. All these creatures have distinguished themselves in their malice, pettiness and psychotic behaviour.
My thoughts exactly. Cannot fathom the lack of inquisitiveness and the abundance of trust in government/health instances, whilst the same people are always complaining about government in everything else. This compliance, being ok with friends being banned from restaurants and events and becoming 2nd class citizens and with the divide and conquer tactics, deeply disappointed me in family and friends. They had no qualms about the censorship, didn’t even see it. A repeat performance of the 1920s/1930s here in Europe and we are not supposed to say so. Thank god I smelled a rat early on, being a naturally sceptical and distrusting person (i consider those to be good traits). Read a lot and Tried to warn friends and advised to wait, but they all caved in to pressure whilst not reading anything and just absorbing nightly propaganda. And once it is in, they turn a deaf ear on any of the adverse effects and the deaths. They get angry when you mention it. Needless to say I lost many “friends”.
They were never friends in the first place. I managed a group of around 15 people for over a decade and protected them from the upper echelons but when this nonsense started they "forgot" everything and joined the Covidian cult with no exception. Some of them had a really hard time, heart attacks, hospitalizations and ongoing neural problems but instead of waking up, they are mad at me for refusing the jabs and standing my ground. Since they all had Covid (some multiple times), I think that they are simply angry that I did not "do my part to save grandma" and they think they paid the price instead of me. I have heard of people saying that there needs to be some form of moving on. I do not agree - how can you even begin to reason with such stupidity?
Nope, they get angry because they are either stupid and ignorant or because they realize that they made the mistake of their lives, mistake that they cannot undo. We are simply reminders of what critical thinking is all about and they cannot accept that we were right.
Bingo!!!👍👍👍! I would NOT go to any doctor who has taken these serums! It literally is afecting their brains. First adverse event listed is Gene P136 deletion. If I got this right.They are all sock and overworked. Imagine all the mistakes being made. Surgeries? Hell NOOOOO!
My wife thinks I am a stud :-) However, everything I have done is because I have two boys that along with my wife are all that matters in this world for me. I do not want my kids or my wife to have a life that is worse overall compared to how I used to live in the place I was born. Where I was born, life was bad because the country was under communism/socialism. However, even in that hellhole, we were not locked up in apartments, we did not need passes to go shopping or see a movie, we did not have to mask up or had to take toxic jabs to make a living. Never in my life I could imagine the sort of hell that these imbeciles here in Oz managed to impose WITH the help of the locals. The result of my taking a stand was that I lost all employment for a while and most people I knew turned their backs on me. The only regret I have is the stress on my wife when I was out of work and things were not easy. Part of the credit goes to my wonderful wife - she backed me up all the time without any hesitation. Finally, I would do it again because it is the only thing that anyone with an ounce of sanity would do (in my opinion anyway). If no one tries to say or do something, we will end in a world that makes hell look good and I cannot accept that for my family.
Great to hear that you had backing from day one! That is what makes all the difference in the world - you share the tough times and have a blast as a pair when times are good.
My commiserations. We certainly seem to have some of the dumbest and ignorant people here in Perth (quite a contrast with the country towns which seem have ignored all the BS). Still, the silver lining is that if they keep getting themselves jabbed, it will catch up with them....
As did I. I suspect much of those remarks would apply equally in Washington State, one of the most foaming-at-the mouth Progressive States in our increasingly frayed Union.
I agree - the so called Federal Liberal party funded all the abuses committed by the states (mostly Labor). The problem is very much like in the US - both parties are absolute scum that hate the electorate and want to destroy the country. What really needs to happen is for the candidates at the local level to be thrown out BUT both the media and the political system are stupidly rigged in favour of the current bunch of psychos masquerading as representatives of the people. If it can be done, it will be an incredibly slow process.
I cannot even begin to understand as to what happened to Canada. Trudeau has a lot to answer for and I really hope that the Canadians that are awake, manage to band together and vote this demented filth out of office.
Sadly, it looks like common sense is in very, very, very short supply throughout the world and especially here in Oz (though Canadistan and NZ are competing for the prize of having the dumbest populations on this planet). My hypothesis is that if you work in government, medical or academic environment, then you have zero common sense and have the emotional intelligence of a brick. Unfortunately, that covers a huge chunk of the population and that is how we ended up in the mess we are in at present. Unfortunately, I cannot see it getting better anytime soon.
And the young will lap it up... Not realising that if they don't comply...they can be 'switched off', cancelled out of the system.
This is all happening without consultation.
'Our' governments have been captured.
We have no effective representation.
'Informed consent'...it's not just about medical interventions, it's about politics in general...we're not giving our 'informed consent' to so much that is happening.
People must wake up. The people must say no. Time to take it back.
"...meet Lucy, student in psychology and me, her digital ID wallet issued by the government, to offer a wide range of identity services. In fact I'm a handy way of proving and protecting her identity, both online and face to face. Let's have a closer look at what I can do. I can help governments to better communicate with citizens.
Right now I'm reminding Lucy of the appointment she needs to schedule for
Remember, those rates are averages across entire age cohorts with no influence of known risk factors. If you are average or below average BMI and/or physically fit then your mortality risk is LOWER than shown.
There have been studies that have shown that with COVID, those with type A or AB blood have a harder time than those with B or O. I have found that from my personal experience.
Also... if you are having lung issues, look at NAC. It's a great supplement that does help with that sort of thing.
Someone recently told me about the blood type differences! I started taking NAC (I have asthma) as my sorta prep against COVID and other respiratory viruses and I noticed that it helped with some symptoms of the asthma. Did you know the FDA tried to shut down the OTC sales of NAC? Freaking outrageous. That is how I know something is probably good for treating COVID. Can't let us have anything that helps us.
I am an O and I got Delta bad, my husband is an A and he's done pretty well. Mildly sick a few times. My son is an A and got the very first Covid bad. So at least in our family it was not true.
I am an O and just spend 2 days feeling EXTREMELY tired, with malaise and persistant mild headache and body ache. Felt like I am going down with a flue or C19 after 15 years of health. Did not take the TEST as in Australia you can only get treatment when your Oxygen levels are low enough. So I fasted, forced myself to go for a 30 min walk and slept. Have taken the standard Zev protocol + Rinses. I am fine today but still a bit weak. Still fasting. Hope this helps my O brothers and sisters.
Yeah Bibi, I'm an O and similar for me. SUPER tired and achy for 2-3 days. I'm slack on prepping but did have Vit C on had and took 1000mg anywhere from 3-10x per waking hour over most of those days. Never tested for CV but had been visiting my parents when they came down with it (they tested).
I'm type A and have COPD. I got Delta December last year. Worst flu I've ever had. Came down with pneumonia and my f---ing doctor would not treat my pneumonia. Said it was viral, sorry can't do nothing for you buddy. Eventually got through it but coughing so hard I collapsed a lung and spent New year in hospital for 12 days. Luckily I had IVM.or I probably wouldn't be here. Anyway some kind people here on substack have advised me to take NAC,which I have ordered and hope to have next week. Any way I'm celebrating my 1yr anniversary from Delta and cooking T-bone and lobster for me and wife tonight! 😋 Thanks to all and Happy and Healthy New Year!
Oh, the risks to the young and healthy (under 30) are ten times LESS than influenza. Middle age, same as flu. Average age of death was 82 with co-morbidites in the UK and that was the first "wave". The Wuhan Strain!
On that matter, the peak of the Coof in March/April in the UK had a lower all-cause mortality per 100k population than the flu seasons of 1997, 1999.and 2000.
These deaths were almost exclusively in care homes (Midazolam) and as May rolled around it went back to normal.
Beginning of 2021, a bright spark got some of the local authorities to hand over the total burials and cremations for each year from 2010 up to and including 2020.
No difference.
My oldest childhood friend who's a senior paramedic instructor in Major Incidents in the UK confirmed it was all bullshit back in 2020.
January 2021 comes and he's flat out. 🤔
He also confirmed what I'd been warning about the Coof injections too, just last week called it a "clusterfuck".
I haven't received a response to my email to Nigel Crawford.
I've subsequently followed up on this matter with the then President of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners, Karen Price (9 May 2022). No response.
And also the Federal Health Minister, Mark Butler (18 November 2022). No response.
It's awful in Australia, where so many people have been pressured, coerced and manipulated to submit to the jabs under mandates, e.g. No Jab, No Job.
'Informed consent' has been trashed.
The medical and scientific establishment is an ethical wasteland, along with politicians and the mainstream media. This isn't a liberal democracy, it's tyranny.
Aside from the increasingly evident possiblity this is to sterilise the human population and reduce life expectancy, the more.immediate matter is one of shareholder risk....
Under the United States CARES Act and PREP Act, a vaccine used under an Emergency Use Authorisation has automatic blanket indemnity granted by the state. No one can sue the manufacturers regardless of harm caused.
If this indemnity is to continue once the vaccine is fully approved, the vaccine must be approved for children and recommended/ mandated as part of the childhood vaccination programme.
If the vaccines aren't approved for children, the manufacturers won't enjoy indemnity for any age group under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
This is one reason why children are being subjected to this experimental injection under an EUA, even though there isn't an emergency in their age group.
This is also why this vaccine, which isn't a vaccine, is being called a vaccine, because indemnity only applies to vaccines and no other class of pharmaceuticals.
The US Centers for Disease Control estimated children are at a ten fold greater risk from influenza than they are CoVID-19.
The Nuremberg Charter, written after the horror of medical experimentation by the Third Reich to protect bodily autonomy, was never actually ratified by nations rather, it was the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights.
Article 6 – Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
2. Scientific research should only be carried out with the prior, free, express and informed consent of the person concerned. The information should be adequate, provided in a comprehensible form and should include modalities for withdrawal of consent. Consent may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without any disadvantage or prejudice. Exceptions to this principle should be made only in accordance with ethical and legal standards adopted by States, consistent with the principles and provisions set out in this Declaration, in particular in Article 27, and international human rights law.
3. In appropriate cases of research carried out on a group of persons or a community, additional agreement of the legal representatives of the group or community concerned may be sought. In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.
Article 27 – Limitations on the application of the principles
If the application of the principles of this Declaration is to be limited, it should be by law, including laws in the interests of public safety, for the investigation, detection and prosecution of criminal offences, for the protection of public health or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. Any such law needs to be consistent with international human rights law.
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Article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights enshrines the fundamentals of the Nuremberg Charter into international law and, for the purposes of these CoVID-19 injections, is being criminally subverted by fraudulently invoking Article 27, which suspends Article 6 on the basis of a "public emergency" to justify Emergency Use Authorisation.
These "vaccines" fail all the legal tests for Emergency Use Authorisation
1. There is no emergency, especially in the under 65 with no underlying health conditions;
2. Existing safe and effective treatments are available, especially for early intervention;
3. These injections do not meet the required efficacy, preventing neither transmission or contagion;
4. There is substantial evidence of serious injury and death.
"But we’re never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it. That’s just the way it goes. That’s how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the rotavirus vaccine. And I do think we should vote to approve it." - Dr. Eric Ruben, Editor of the New England Journal of Medicine at the FDA approval hearing for EUA for the children under the age of 12.
Also, in July 2021, the former Morrison government advised health practitioners they had specific medical indemnity for administering Covid Jabs...it now turns out this is a lie. They do NOT have specific medical indemnity for Covid jabs.
And have any of the practitioners properly obtained informed consent, as they are obliged to do?
I'm pursuing this matter with medical insurers and other parties.
All power to you! The insider public servant secret is that Public Service in Australia provides no significant benefit ( less then 20%) to Australians.Its primary purpose is that it keeps people employed. It is a form of high paid Centerlink benefit. Every public servant knows it although they wont admit it to the outsider. Look at the Outcome Statement project deliverables and matrix of success.
Consider that in the eleven months up to December 2020, globally 1.64 million deaths were attributed to Covid-19. These 1.64 million deaths must be seen in context with the 56 million deaths expected in a world that then had around 7.9 billion people.
And that figure was composed with them throwing everything they could at it to build up the numbers to try and justify their grossly disproportionate and ill-targeted Covid response.
We don't know the true numbers, as the CDC defined a covid death as "any death within 28 days of a positive PCR test".
They conflated those who died WITH covid and those who died FROM covid.
Important distinction, as locally we had gun shot victims counted as "covid deaths". (Testing was mandatory when entering a hospital, so if that gun shot victim tested positive, then "poof", another covid death.)
I remember a CDC slip up in 2020 when they said of all the deaths reported as CoVID (death for any reason within 28 days of a positive test), 6% had actually died of the Coof.
The UK, similar. Those with only CoVID on the death certificate numbered under 7,000, that was nearing the end of it in 2021.
I don't think anything can be inferred from government data, can't trust any of it.
He is also on FB. He was working for a large nhs trust. His work comprised three different roles: 1. Clinical Data Manager in charge of departmental databases; 2. Senior Clinical Audit Facilitator in charge of the national and local clinical audit programme; 3. Statistical consultant. Retired in 2009. He has been dissecting a lot of hospital records and ONS information. Writes with great British humor as well. His gift is that he is as good with words as with stats, so the unenlightened in statistics (me) can grasp what he says.
He most certainly is very witty! I enjoy his articles, though I don't have the background to understand more than the basic gist. He does a great job of explaining things in a way that even people (such as myself) without the background education can see where he's going.
Same here, but i do get his story because he explains it so well. And i particularly love how no outcome is accepted as the ‘correct’ one, unless he has used every tool available to double check.
I knew this in March 2020. Ioannidis first meta data analysis back then was saying the same, as did Stockholm University research, hence they never closed Sweden.
This is the funniest one. Look at the date. Look who the authors are.
"On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2"
Truly astounding. I made fun of it for the first 4 months until it became unhealthy.
Total species level fail.
The first day of the lockdowns I looked at my wife and said; They are going to sacrifice saving the MOST lives for trying to save EVERY life. She looked at me and said; They are going to DESTROY lives in order to SAY "if it only saves one life". My wife is smart.
I scrawled that on a post in my workshop the day after the lockdowns began. I wanted to leave a message for the new owner of my house to share with all my neighbors after we fled the midwest for Florida in April of 20'.
That was my argument when they came up with the "you are being selfish" response to not masking. I asked, even back then "What is more selfish, to refuse to mask for the .14% of the population that is going to die due to Covid, or if you are part of the .14% demanding everyone do all these things to accommodate them?
No one has worn mask in the context of respiratory protection against fine aerosols that carry viruses, throughout this entire bullshit. I see the efficacy of N95 masks (for wood dusts) and surgical masks (for spittle) is STILL being debated. I should point out it says it on the side of the box they come in. "Does not protect against viral transmission."
I know about RPE because I spent thirty years a designer and project manager in land remediation, brownfield regeneration and hazardous wastes management. The "face coverings" nonsense was one of the red flags early on. That and the big dance of the excavators in Wuhan. What a big show!
There were many reasons why many wore masks throughout the "pandemic." I'll give you a list here, it is by no means exhaustive. You may say that isn't what you meant when you made your assertion. My intuition tells me that what you meant to say is "The mask was not a legitimate deterrent for the context in which it was worn." I would agree. But here is a list of reasons why people masked:
1. They were told to do so. (move along to get along).
2. They did it to protect their loved ones. (It's not for me, but for everyone around me.)
3. They did it because the virus spreads in water particles. (There was a lot of "hot" water particle talk back in the summer of 2020.
4. The mask stops transmission. (They don't know how it stops transmission, but it makes sense on the surface. You cover your cough...if you wear a mask covering it must cover your mouth that much more effectively.
5. They wore a mask because everyone else wore a mask. (I wasn't going to wear a mask, but I cased a local grocery store at night to see if anyone at all walked in without a mask so see if there would at least be safety in numbers...I gave up and decided to go in anyhow and found no one stopped or questioned me.
My point wasn't concerning mask efficacy, but rather that these measures were never thought of in terms of "risk/reward." but in terms of "This is an evil bad scary disease and must be gotten rid of as quickly as possible to the expense of everything else."
You don't have to tell me your credentials. I have no credentials in regards to masks, but I am surrounded by people who do. I just knew that masks didn't work by asking common sense questions like "If masks worked, why didn't we wear masks each flu season?"
I understand why the general public complied, but I'd add herd mentality to that list. Social compliance.
"I must wear one because you wear one. But we both know these aren't really doing anything because we can eat a sausage roll round the side of the things and John down the road vapes straight through his. But we don't ever mention this and do it anyway and we don't dare question authority."
Most people will unquestioningly conform, however ridiculous or illogical the action.
Herd mentality, Mass formation, belief in the consensus, or as Bonhoeffer calls it "becoming stupid" in some ways it has helped us evolve, but in the last three years if has shown how it can lead to our undoing.
Herd mentality can be extremely helpful. If I eat from tainted food, and throw up, the tendency is that those around me will also throw up, probably because we oftentimes shared the same source of nutrition. That is helpful, makes sure that at least some people survived food poisoning back in the day. It also helps in terms of herd immunity.
Just being together brings safety. But it can cause irrational behavior as well, like stampedes, running off a cliff, and adopting ridiculous, ineffective, and sometimes harmful measures. And the tendency of this herd like behavior is to streamline and simplify it. "Any mask will do" "Two meters," "wash your hands," "everyone must vaccinate."
One of the most ridiculous examples of mass formation was seeing outside a restaurant "Mandatory masking" and you looked at the sea of tables inside the cafeteria and they were all eating maskless.If I had any spine, and some chalk and eraser, I would have erased that sign and replaced it with "Compliance signified by mask on entry, but once at the table, eat because the virus is the Santa Claus of viruses and knows when you are walking around and knows when you are eating."
The measures become more ridiculous as they evolve in the face of reality. What happens when people still get covid-19 if they vaccinate? Well then it's because enough people haven't vaccinated. Or they move the goalposts, and make up lies, and yet still support and maintain the behavior. The HHS still has PSA's in twitter about "Spreading joy and not Covid 19 this Christmas."
I love the people that assert they never had covid for three years, and then finally after being triple vaccinated, and double masked most of the time, they finally got it.
First of all, how do they know they haven't had it? Did they test themselves in november of 2019 when there were no Covid tests? They also knew back in those beginning days that there was "asymptomatic spread." How can they be so sure they were never exposed even while masked. They can't.
I think I had Covid in February and December of 2020. So why did I need to mask, get vaccinated, or anything for a disease I already had and for which had (at that time) a .3% death rate (and now that rate has dropped below .14%)
If there is a hierarchy of ridiculous decisions, it is any one that is dealing with the masking and vaccinating of children. The chance of a child dying from Covid is .0003% It is effectively zero. So hey, closing down school, isolating kids, masking kids, vaccinating kids was at best ineffective..at worst, harmful. They should be held accountable for their actions
Riddle me this, because to this day it leaves me befuddled
I have seen videos from inside these "vaccination centres" where a person received the concoction and promptly collapses unto the floor under the force of gravity, convulses, violently, then medics are pumping on their heart and the person get stretchered out of there.
The people witnessing this spectacle remain seated and wait their turn.
I guess normalcy bias can be an even more extreme (non) reaction than I thought.
There are probably people somewhere working on the ultimate hak. You could have a serious problem ever straightening out a stolen i dentity, with anything that integrated.
That's not even addressing the obvious complete loss of privacy from just being plugged in to such a shitstem.
Next will be geofencing. These "15 minute cities" really means that's the radius you can go before your social credit score thing turns red, it's like Total Recall where the prisoners head gets blown off by the explosive collar as he runs past the boundary limit.
Maybe not that bad, but Boston Dynamics have already outfitted their cute AI robot dog with automatic weapons. That's real.
I grabbed the Fauci paper days after it was published. I gave it to so many friends, family, colleagues. I learned about Ioannis back then. I assessed the risk and figured it out. I watched as the world went bananas. I'm not a medical professional. I am a talented accountant that analyzes data, corroborates what I read and assesses risk. It wasn't that complicated.
You mean the Fauci paper published in NEJM in March 2020?
The paper in which he said:
"If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2"
And:
"Therapy currently consists of supportive care while a variety of investigational approaches are being explored.11 Among these are the antiviral medication lopinavir–ritonavir, interferon-1β, the RNA polymerase inhibitor remdesivir, chloroquine, and a variety of traditional Chinese medicine products.11"
Sunak, Britain's unelected (by anyone including Tory Party members) Prime Minister.
Former Goldman Sachs;
Close ties with the World Economic Forum, unelected as Prime Minister he was installed to carry out their nefarious agenda;
Billionaire wife, richest woman in the UK, non-domiciled tax status;
Obtained a US Green Card during his time in office;
Father-in-law owns Infosys, the technology provider for Digital ID/CBDC/Social Credit system in India;
Sunak's father-in-law has a £900m-a-year joint venture with Amazon, big part of the Great Reset;
Sunak co-founded the hedge fund Theleme, which had an initial fund of £536m, registered in the Cayman Islands;
Major share holder in Moderna, Theleme was an early investor;
Sunak refused to disclose how much profit his investment in Moderna had made through CoVID vaccines;
When Sunak's own backbencher MP's demanded these "vaccines" be withdrawn from use, Sunak refused and replied with "The vaccines are safe and effective."
This video by Tim Gielen, released in March 2021 and subsequently edited in september 21, is elucidating as to who owns the world. https://www.timgielen.com/videos/
When it started, I rushed to the US Holocast Museum website and found ALOT of great material about propaganda. Posters depicting Jews as venom mirrored closely when they said kids are vectors. Shameful.
So why, in May 2021, did John Ioannidis urge Australia to "push for vaccination very fast (given) you have very few people infected. Otherwise I don't see another way out. You will get your wave sooner or later".
This was reported in The Australian newspaper, in an article titled: Lockdowns 'not reason for success', says epidemiologist, 10 May 2021.
I challenged Ioannidis about this, see my emails to him:
Must be the same as old Campbell and Aseem Malhotra. They trusted these institutions and organizations their whole lives, so believed the hype and got wrapped up in it, too myopically close to the subject of the Coof to stand back and see the bigger picture. Big pharma Stockholm syndrome.
It was a revelation watching it all, who got dragged in by the Death Star's tractor beam and who didn't.
It's probably because they each have a television set, whereas I haven't since 2001.
Not sure about him at all but I was going say "trust but verify" however for this situation I think that "distrust until confirmed otherwise" is the way to go.
My goodness it took Campbell SO TEDIOUSLY LONG to see/admit the truth. Either he really did believe the sun shone out of the medical industry or else he was scared of offending YT and losing his channel.
Many were blinded. If I knew him, I would advise him to apologize to you and make a public statement that he erred. It is a black mark on his career. Very sad.
It's worth mentioning that IFR and CFR are legitimate medical terms, but as will all data they can be taken out of context, or directly manipulated by the unscrupulous. For example, lets say that MERS really did have a 36% CFR. That's pretty high. But what what that figure doesn't tell you is even more important -- that (probably) the majority of infections never came to the attention of the health system, probably because they were mild or even went undetected. CFR/IFR does measure something, but it gives about as accurate a view of the true lethality of a disease as would drawing conclusions about motor vehicle safety merely by a survey of ER admissions resulting from auto accidents.
The worst part is that a lot of them do (I showed them the stats) and they still go like sheep to the abattoir. Never thought I would live in times like this. I do understand what Cassandra would have felt like in Troy.
Exactly, no worse than a bad flu - so is there really a COVID after all?
According to a major statistical analysis by D enis R ancourt and colleagues, there is very strong evidence against the theory of excess deaths caused by a contagious pathogen and none to support it.
In a nutshell, excess deaths since the 'pandemic' was announced are correlated to government interventions, both in time and place: lockdowns, masking, vaccines. All causes stress to people who then fall ill to bacterial pneumonia - which interestingly enough has symptoms identical to COVID. Then it's an open question as to whether there were any other unknown 'stressors' introduced into particular locations such as New York and Bergamo to 'kick-start' the 'pandemic'.
If you dig deeper into how the 'variants' are conjured up you discover that it all rests on some very shaky 'science'. See A ndrew K aufman.
Even though my covid experience sucked, I'm not worried about this (for myself) given how long term natural immunity is formed (nk and tcell recognition of functionally constrained proteins). However, I do keep on hand and use when necessary, a neti pot, xclear, iodine rinse as well as a nebulizer which works really well with a little saltwater for clearing out the chest (doc recommended that when I had it) also quercetin, D, zinc and NAC, amongst other supplements. I think it's practical given the viral shitshow going around. Oh and not hiding away but getting lots of frequent exposure at lower levels so you can train the innate immune system. Just my approach.
Dr Fauci said give up smoking and protect yourself. And I still see smokers all over the place. They are not dropping dead. It seems total opposite. (As many of the things he has suggested :-P)
Scientists in France found that nicotine stopped the virus from replicating. A few days later, the government in France made it illegal to buy nicotine replacement therapy online.
They literally did everything they could to stop people having any treatments so they could either die or get the death stabs.
How annoying! Damn French bollocks (excuse my French as Brits say :-P). Macron still wants to piss off the unvaccinated. He is possessed with evil spirits (called WEF).
I still recommend stopping smoking, regardless of the Coof. For twenty years used to smoke a 50g pouch of Golden Virginia a week, rollie's no filters. Stopped in 2017, feel bloody great. Plus, it saves like £1,500 a year or whatever.
There is the theory out there that the spike protein has an afinity for nicotine due to the fact that the type of receptors it binds to are nicotonic acetylcholine receptors. So in the presence of nicotine as in smokers it will bind to the nicotine rather than these receptors. Dr Bryan Ardis talked about it
Thanks. I'm pretty certain I had Covid in December 2019. It kicked my ass but it didn't stop me smoking like a trooper. I literally don't care. About anything.
I am a social smoker. ( Not really social! Lol)! Anyways..Smoke 4 or 5 cigs a day. Have NOT had any illness whatsoever! I do take all the vitamins and minerals that most of us have been taking for about 3 years. So there's that.
Outdoor walking,biking, kayaking, metal detecting and hiking all over.
Lots of sun here in Arizona
All about the D
But tonight..... New Year’s Eve ..... it’s gonna be a whiskey kind of night
Slow and on the rocks
I’m going to celebrate another year without the woo coof and clank a glass of whiskey and be surrounded by some crazy ass folks here in Quartzite AZ 🥳🥳🥂
So much great health advice here- I can tell Igor’s readers are a well informed lot! Those are the exact supplements my family and I take. The only thing I would add is NAC is best to take on empty stomach (or at least not with proteins) and maybe melatonin at bedtime, especially if you don’t get much morning sunshine.
Melatonin is something I definitely should take. I'm an insomniac. Be up for days. Never had a circadian rhythm. I'm into day three of a waking cycle right now. I might finally go to sleep later on tonight.
Absolutely take Melatonin it is safe and it is ok to increase..i started with 1 mg then 3 now 10mg when i felt like im coming down with a flu. Also Lyons Mane mushroom extract from lyfe cykle helps me dream very often
i had a bad reaction to melatonin. made me more insomniac and anxious. what did i do wrong? i have heard taking too much can have negative effects - and to start with miniscule amounts. Most people start with too high a dose. Thoughts?
I can no longer take NAC, the Sulphur stinks and runs overtake me if I do. Maybe I could take smaller more frequent doses, but I used to be able to handle a 600mg dose. Not so much now :(
The "normal range" is supposedly 30 - 100 as measured in the blood test, but 30 is pretty useless in terms of the immune system. You want your level to be at least 50 so that IF you get Covid, it will tend to be milder; Dr. Ryan Cole has said if it is at least 50, you won't get a cytokine storm, your body won't go there - that is the bad lung inflammation that was putting people in the hospital on ventilators in the first round of Covid. I don't know that is a guarantee, but data shows, reasonably correct. However, if you get your level up to 80 you probably will not even get Covid, or flu, or colds, or any other respiratory infections. If you go here https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-PREVENT-COVID-FLU-RSV-Clinical-Guide.pdf there is a pdf of a "Guide to Prevention" and on page 7 there is information that can help you to get your VItamin D level closer to where it may need to be, also page 4 has info on Vitamin D. It is good to check a level, but if there is some reason you can't do it right away, 5,000 IU per day is rasonable. Be aware that as we age, we are not able to convert sunshine into Vitamin D as readily as we did as children, our capacity for this fades as we age. Also in northern climates in the winter, the angle of the sun makes it impossible to get adequate Vitamin D from the sun, plus, it's cold so we're covering up. I saw one presentation where a map was shown and looking at a line of latitude near the top of North Carolina, continuing through Tennessee, Arkansas, Okalahoma - everything to the north of the line was too far north to get adequate Vitmain D from the sun during the winter. I would think in Canada and UK, it's fine to get a little fresh air and sunshine in the winter, but don't count on the sun for meeting your Vitamin D needs in the winter. I understand that Fauci takes 8,000 units a day in the winter.
There was a massive Israeli study that showed if blood levels are >60 ng/ml, mortality in all age groups was virtually zero. The fact that Vitamin D could have stopped Covid cold makes the gene therapy by Pfizer et al., all the more criminal
Hmmm. the study was from the days of Alpha (but it was for mortality - very glad you didn't prove that wrong!!!). Omicron got me from an employee this fall. Was really really miserable for a week - worst flu ever - then tiredness and a cough for a month. Unvaxxed. Hoping for natural immunity for XBB (taking supplements +IVM 24 mg/.dy).
Pls do not forget Mg. It is absolutely necessary for a good VIT D action. Also B Vitamins , esp VIT B3 ( Niacin). To help mitochondria I also take NMN, NAD
I have the same approach. But I dont think that Igor would agree that we can train our innate immune system. I remember he said somewhere the best thing is NOT TO GET it ever.
Everyone's going to get this bug, it's inevitable, especially at a basic reproductive rate of 20, that's unheard of. It's already passed through much of China and although the (alleged) numbers look biblical, remember this is a country 1,400,000,000 people.
I had it. Lasted 36 hours and was gone. Unmemorable. Sore throat and aches and pains.
Norovirus, that I am terrified of, a thousand times worse.
It's not about training your immune system, just keeping it healthy. All fat and wheezing and micronutrient deficient renders one immunocompromised and hence vulnerable.
If anything, this Coof bug has caused people to take an interest in their diet and general state of being. Silver linings.
Maybe it attacks people differently. I had no sore throat just body ache, headache (you know that one "sharp" pulsating pain on left side) and some tearings from the eyes and nose. No congestion. EXTREME DEBILITATING TIREDNESS and dry cough. I couldn't do anything. Just slept and listened to guided meditation with the mask over my eyes. Those were my symptoms. I'm O neg.
Yes. Each immune system is different . I am unvaxxed, I am A, got Delta 12/2021 and my oxygen dropped to 84. Hospital in Germany 4 weeks. Still fatigue a year later up to now. In Germany they refused the FLCCC protocol. Only official standard corticosteroids and antibiotics.
I hope you will eventually fully recover Heike. I know the deliberate withholding of effective meds, since i am your neighbour to the west, where we also have a wef poster boy. Here too, hcq and ivm forbidden. Customs are confiscating shipments. Luckily we ordered very early on last year, and wrote out the protocol in advance, because once you are sick you don’t feel like looking it up. We managed to get both hcq and ivm delivered. Forewarned IS forearmed. Was put to good use this past sep/oct :-)
Yes… I have to order some somewhere. But I want a trusted source. There might be false meds in the Internet . German hospitals still go without IVM, HQ. The FDA pushes on EMA I guess .
Same here, I'm in the US got Delta last December, covid pneumonia and corticosteroids were forbidden along with antibiotics. Literally tried to kill me. Still fatigued! F-ing SOB'S!
At least the Frankfurt university clinic gave me I.v. Corticosteroids and because of pneumonia Antibiotics and Heparin. The feeling to suffocate was horrible. I needed 4 weeks Oxygen then , and had neurological problems ( walking , no smell ). 3 months at home . At Least in Germany the health insurance pays 50 % of your net income. Fatigue stayed and got worse this fall
I am sorry to hear about your oxigen levels dropping. And i am sorry you had to go to hospital. That must have been stressful? I know Germany used to have very advanced health care system. The best in Europe. The important thing is you are getting better. It is been a long road to health. I think you were lucky that they used antibiotics because in Australia they were NOT part of the protocol. GP were FORBIDDEN to prescribe it. That is how they managed to KILL so many people.
Check out Arkmedick:
"That's what they withheld from the elderly that were diagnosed with "COVID pneumonia" because they were told not to treat. It was bacterial pneumonia. They died. If they hadn't had the test they would have had the tablets. #3tablets https://drugs.com/mtm/azithromycin-3-day-dose-pack.html…
I had it late september of this year. 2 days of fever, tiredness and extremely painful body (as if having been driven over by a truck). Fever gone on day 3 and body pain as well. Felt pretty good by then, but took about a week to really clear the symptoms. No bad cough or really sore throat at all. HCQ used from onset, plus rest. Hubby had higher fever, less body pain and was good in one week as well. 70 and 73.
Yes! That's exactly what I was telling friends and family "feel like I've been run over by a truck!". Just 2-3 days and then bounced back. Dry cough stayed around for another week or so..
This was Omicron. As Gates said, it's a "natural vaccine." It's not serious, far from it.
The original did pose a threat to the old and comorbid and the rather unlucky, but the epidemiology shows it wasn't the Black Plague it was made out to be.
You most likely have post viral M.E/CFS. Brother got it after the flu five years ago. It can be brutal. Autoimmune disease. He manages it through a low glycemic index, anti-inflammatory wholefoods diet with anti-oxidants, low stress (cortisol seems to cause flare ups) and light exercise, regular sleep.
He was crippled with it at one point, for many months. Doing pretty good now, but it can suddenly kick in, even if just for a few hours.
Reason I say it, brother had a specialist in M.E/CFS through his work. This fellow said he'd been to a "Long CoVID" conference where it was generally agreed Long CoVID was post viral M.E.
That's not to dismiss it in anyway. This condition can range from being overly fatigued to wheelchair bound and dribbling. Some cases are horrific and some don't recover.
In the UK, it's dismissed as a mental illness by the NHS. Seriously. It's an autoimmune disease, those antibodies go on a rampage attacking every fibre of a persons being. I've seen it. Terrible.
So, I'd take your research in that direction and get a diet and lifestyle going that will see it under control. Inflammation and cortisol are the enemy.
Toxic food and toxic chemicals have to go, but also toxic people. They cause severe stress and excess cortisol and inflammation. I noticed this in brother. Dealing with toxic people sets his M.E off. That's why I think there's cortisol involvement. At a guess.
Yes. I have to get tested for EBV. Might be reactivated. Even the doctors in Germany don’t do much if one got Long Covid. They have only 2-3 Long Covid special facilities / treatment in Germany and they are full.
Norovirus is scary . Im 2012 I got it and had a paralysis of my left eye within 1hr. Double vision. Clinic 1 week, home, clinic again with corticoids.. nothing helped. It took 6 months till I could see normal again
I am an unmasked, unvaccinated, interventional endoscopy nurse. I usually volunteer to circulate in covid cases because others are scared. I keep the up to date FLCCC protocol hanging in my vitamin cabinet. I have most of the first line therapies on hand at all times. Whenever I get sniffles, I start ivermectin and increase C and zinc for 5 days. I had COVID last week, positive on two different rapid tests. This was third round. Massive migraine headache for 6 days, nasal congestion for 2. I have never run fever longer than 24 hrs, have a sore throat, cough, shortness of breath or chest congestion with COVID. I do have a significant history of frequent migraines so I feel it does prey on our vulnerabilities. I avoid processed food, fast food, toxins in home and personal products. I’m still overweight and consume alcohol but otherwise relatively healthy. A week of RSV in 2020 was far worse for me than all three covid experiences combined. I considered it Covication from work and spent time enjoying my family.
My experience was just like yours and I too have a history of migraines. I also live with my 3 yo granddaughter who is in preschool and brings everything home and had RSV which was way worse.
I just want to know when people are going to get a grip & stop getting these shots? Three people I am aware of in my neighborhood just got boosters, gleefully I might ad. This is willful ignorance, this will never stop if the shots don’t stop.
Please stop wasting any energy on them - they are too far gone and will find out the hard way the consequences of being stupid and ignorant. Unless someone with some serious power keels over, this will sadly, continue.
Mark Twain: (paraphrase) Don't waste your time arguing with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I know it's heart-wrenching dealing with family /loved ones, but at some point it become every man for himself.
Yep, completely agree. Hence my comment to let them be. I have jabbed relatives and they jabbed their kids too. What can I say? I despair at the ignorance of the parents but it is what it is. I just pray that the kids do not end up paying the price for the stupidity of the parents.
Tragic but true .. l am now alone - my choice - downside = no contact with vaxed family members and friends. Upside = less likelihood of spike proteins spread, leaving me healthy enough (with supplements, excellent diet, exercise and mental stimulation, the piano helps) to continue to FIGHT this evil, using my photographic skills, uncovering so much if the dark satanic world THEY inhabit, watching and cataloguing geographical, socio economic and political changes and passing on information to others who pass it on to those who are taking direct action. It’s extremely risky, my life has been threatened more than once, l am constantly on the move .. BUT .. for me there is NO other option!
Wish to say to my fellow brothers and sisters, all active dissidents - YOU ARE AMAZING PEOPLE and l wish you the very best New Year possible - Stay safe my dear friends!
Yes "don't throw your pearls before the swine lest they turn and tear you to pieces". Sad but that's the place where I've arrived at with some folk because they go absolutely nuts if you mention anything other than the official BS.
thanks. i wasn't sure what you were saying so thanks for taking time to explain how you weave covid into conversation with anyone, whoever, wherever there is an opportunity (and back off if they get defensive, but gently plant the seed if you can). Encourage anyone asking questions to get no further jabs if they've taken any... things like that.
Leslie, I was dropping off my grandkids off at home when I passed a house with six or eight people standing outside in 40 degree weather in the driveway like they were having some kind of meeting. All were masked and 6ft apart like good little sheep 🐑. They probably just got back from getting their booster shots and celebrating 🍾 😅
This won't stop,we just have to move on with out them I'm afraid.
Absolutely. I told the vtards that if they were vax jabbed, then if it worked, as they claimed, were they not safe from me? Was not *I* the one at risk in this situation? And since I was fully happy taking that risk, their insanity and insistence it wouldn't work if I didn't also jab was foolish, not to mention downright illogical. Since when does it take every one to be jabbed for a jab to prevent disease? You are or you are NOT protected - you do not have 'milder disease' and be able to 'transmit'. You stop it cold. Therefore, the jab is NOT a vaccine. Simple. Elementary. But so far beyond their ability to reason out on their own. And now we know, also - which I knew then - NOT SAFE (experimental) and NOT EFFECTIVE (experimental).
Igor asked about health suggestions and whether Ivermectin is still working. I'm treating Covid patients currently and have been, and I wrote a very long post tonight but got an automated message I must shorten it, so I am going to break it up into several shorter posts. I want to tell you things that may be helpful for prevention or treatment, and maybe some bits will be things you didn't already know. I am going to fill you in on Ivermectin, Quercetin, Vitamin D, zinc, and "Black Cumin" = "Black seed" = Nigella sativa - but now that I am having to reorganize my posts plus now it is 2 a.m., I don't know if I can finish tonight and whether I can get them all sent in together or whether some may end up being sent at different times and get separated. If you have interest, but sure to look for each topic.
About Ivermectin. Yes, it is still working currently and I think it will continue to work because I have read that it works for all RNA viruses, not only Covid. There is research that shows it will work for any RNA viruses which would include flu, colds, and a number of other viruses. But you do have to use a strong enough dose.
Currently the recommendation from the FLCCC physicians is to use 0.4 mg. per kg of body weight for treatment, but for more severe cases, 0.6 mg. per kg. So - if you weight 150 pounds, you can use an online calculator to find that your weight in kg. is 68 kg. 0.4 x 68 = 27.2 mg. Maybe in the first year of pandemic, a telemed doctor prescribed 14 mg. as your calculated dose but now, using the 0.4 multiplier, your dose is about double what it was before. If your dose in the past was 15 mg., it's 30 mg. now, for treatment. When I first started prescribing Ivermectin I was using 0.2 mg./kg for treatment, and it worked, I kept people out of the hospital and had good results at that dose, but since all the variants started going round the recommendaions of the FLCCC physicians have been to use 0.4 mg/kg- 0.6 mg./kg, so I currently use the 0.4 multiplier for treatment. which is every day until well. Usually 5 days, but could be a couple weeks, so you take it every day until well. For prevention, it is still 0.2 mg. per kg, once or twice a week. I'll get to that but separately.
If you go to FLCCC.net you can look up protocols for prevention and for early outpatient treatment to see their recommendations and also they have some guidelines in which they explain why you use one thing or another and how much. One thing with Ivermectin, you absolutely want to take it AFTER a meal for best results. If you take it while there is still food in your stomach as soon as you finish eating, then you get a higher level than you would have otherwise, and you need the higher level. The food and digestive enzymes help the Ivermectin to absorb. The original FDA info says take with water, but those who are true Covid experts say, after eating. RIght after eating, not like an hour or two later, but right away.
To obtain Ivermectin, if you go to the FLCCC website, just type FLCCC.net into your browser - you will get there but the URL will end up morphing into something longer, but once there, look for a tab to click to "Find a provider" and some providers are licensed in many states or even all states and can prescribe by telemed for anyone. AND there will be listings by state for those prescribers who are only one particular state, so find a doctor or other prescriber who is licensed in your state, and then contact them about getting Ivermectin.
But where to fill it - before you talk to the prescriber, also look up to "find a pharmacy" that will sell it. In pretty much every state you can find a few pharmacies that will sell Ivermectin - most will not - but you want to find out what pharmacy you want to use so you can tell the telemed doctor where to send the prescription. It's possible there will NOT be even one pharmacy in your city that will sell Ivermectin, but there may be a pharmacy in another city that will ship it to you if your prescriber sends the prescrption there, OR there are some mail order pharmacies that will fill Ivermectin and are licensed to mail to other states, OR if you live close to Tennessee and don't mind the drive, if you go to Tennessee you are supposed to be able to obtain Ivermectin without a prescription so you could just go to a pharmacy to buy it. I suppose maybe call ahead to the pharmacy where you would go, and maybe check for Tennessee pharmacies on the FLCCC's list - but it is legal in Tennessee to get it without prescription. So then you don't have to get a telemed doctor to prescribe it for you. But you have to actually be in Tennessee to obtain it, and actually I don't know if there is any restriction on people driving in from other states, so I suppose check to be sure about that.
What Ivermectin does, it will work for any RNA virus, which includes all the coronaviruses, so it will work for Covid, and also flu, and colds, and some other things. What it does, it will prevent the Covid virus from getting into the nucelus of your cells, if it does not get into the nucleus, the virus cannot replicate. But, in case it had already gotten in, the medication does something else to stop it from replicating anyway. So it is known at the cellular level, that Ivermectin is going to work, and it usually does, though the only way to prevent the virus from replicating is to stop it before it replicates, so you want to start treating BEFORE the test results come back several days later - if you think you have Covid, just START and o not wait. That is the whole key. If you wait a week, you have totally missed your very best opportunity to have a mild case and be well fast. The virus only multiples for about one week, maybe a bit longer, but pretty much one week. Then, the virus dies but you can still react to dead virus. Whatever happens after one week - those cytokine storms that put people in the hospital on ventilators - that is your immune trying to kill the virus that is already dead, overreacting and actually trying to kill you instead. If you get to that stage, for sure you need steroids, and you can also keep going with Ivermectin because it does actually do several different things to help you, and it works at all stages of the illness.
But your chance of wrapping this up in a week or sooner depends on having enough Vitamin D on board at the start, getting antivirals like Ivermectin into your system fast, right away, 0.4 mg/kg, I have also seen recommendations that you can use HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) along with Ivermectin and that was particularly good with one of the new variants - but - you definitely want an MD to prescribe and advise you, HCQ is prescription, and the biggest thing is to start immediately, and do NOT exceed 400 mg. per day which is the max safe dose of HCQ. A problem in many of the studies is they were overdosing the people after starting treatment too late to do any good, then overdosing. 200 mg. twice a day is normal for HCQ, not ever more than that.
Okay, it is way past 2 a.m. I am quitting for tonight, but if you check back over the weekend, I will give you some additional info on the other supplements that I think are helpful. Some of the things you have no doubt heard, and possibly a few items will be things you didn't know - good night.
Sorry about God being changed to Good, which is Who God is, but very often, even being very careful with typing, I see that “God” is not a word that Apple likes.
I was able to email a pharmacy in TN and have Ivermectin mailed to me. This was about a month ago. Hubs and I have had terrible bout of alpha and a nothing burger omicron but in case ol’ Geert is right and a stronger variant is coming, I wanted to be prepared.
As Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche made quite clear, one of these variants will eventually evolve into a killing machine for the vaxed. Who knows, maybe it is this one.
Phil, we should all hope Geert is very very wrong. A large truly pandemic level event would likely destroy the supply chains around the world and increasing death thru famines. But to be honest, for the dedicated globalists and satanists, they want to destroy humanity.
I am seeing friends at work and on the train that are seemingly coughing regularly and ask them if they are ok and they say 'its nothing' or its dry or its an allergy. this means to me that a lot of people are living with ill health now. those that arent are beginning to ramp up the fear meter again. Read that Boston schools are going to require masks again...oh 'just temporarily...'. thats a bad sign. yesterday i spent a several hours outside and I must have heard probably a half dozen ambulances in the area.
A big THANK YOU to everyone on this substack who is sharing what they're doing to get through all of this insanity from a supplement standpoint. I'm interested in what everyone is trying, and have shared what I'm doing.
We have to stick together and help each other through this, since it seems we can't trust the majority of the medical industry.
There are different forms of Mg.. I take a product from a German company ...edubily . It’s a
mix of 3 types of Mg. ( different bioavailability )
Copy / translated :
🔺
2:1:1 Mixture of magnesium glycinate, trimagnesium dicitrate and magnesium carbonate.
All three forms are metabolized differently and supply the body with magnesium via different pathways and sustainably:
🔺Magnesium glycinate - magnesium bound to the amino acid glycine - most likely enters the body through the intestinal amino acid transporter. This ensures incredible tolerability, even at higher doses. And it prevents potential interactions with other micronutrients or ingredients from food.
🔺Trimagnesium Dictrate is one of the best known forms of magnesium - here magnesium is present as a salt, bound to citrates. It exhibits superior bioavailability and flows very quickly in the blood. People often notice this by a "pleasant relaxed feeling" after taking magnesium citrate.
🔺Last but not least, the product contains the inorganic magnesium carbonate. Formerly in disrepute, it is increasingly appreciated as a "slow magnesium" that provides the body with magnesium in a very tolerable and long-lasting way. In addition, the compound provides carbonate, which acts as a natural acid buffer in the body.
We also add small amounts of vitamin B6 to the product, as there is evidence that B6 can improve magnesium absorption or retention.
Finishing up our second Covid round. First was last January. Treated with therapeutics and recovered nicely. Same thing this time, but.... have what I call the Covid snot clot this time. Finished IVM/HCQ/doxycycline/prednisone/Zelenko protocol (ongoing), but sinus congestion and infection lingering so on to azithromycin. Lot of people I know who are recovering from this strain trending here have the same issue of lingering sinus congestion. Don’t know which flavor it is, but it is annoying. Yeah, my wife and I are PureBloods, and in our seventh decade. I do have (mild) emphysema so anything impacting my lungs is of some concern.
I've had some sort of allergy/bronchial thing hanging around for weeks that got bad when our furnace went out.
What has worked for me is pseudophederine (prescribed by allergist, 30mg 2x daily) OTC cherry cold/flu with Acetaminophen and 1600mg of NAC daily At the very least try 1600mg of NAC.
At least the NAC restores the deplete glutathione though. Better yet, take aspirin instead of acetaminophen, as it also reduces inflammation and the chance of blood clots. But aspirin depletes Vitamin C, so take extra Vitamin C to replenish that.
if you watch or listen to Dr. John Campbell, this was explained. Africans do not carry the neanderthal gene, as many europeans and US people DO - which increases your chance of having serious effects of covid. so before you move, find out if you have the gene.
I expect many Africans are taking hcq as prophylaxis for malaria. I always took it on my trips to subsaharan Africa. They take a lot of ivermectin too for river blindness.
Almost no one who lives there takes anything as prophylaxis for malaria - they sleep with nets, get malaria, then treat it. I’ve been working in Uganda for 14 years and have never seen either HCQ or ivermectin at a pharmacy. (We picked up some ivermectin in Panamá this spring but I couldn’t find any to buy in Uganda.) When the govt threatened teachers who didn’t vax (and they only had hundreds of thousands of doses anyway, not millions) many just quit. They’d closed the schools and kept them closed for almost 2 years (beginning of April ‘20 until Jan 28 ‘22) so most had had to get other work to survive. (So now the already terrible eduction “system” is much worse...) I work in Uganda’s largest slum, in Kampala, and don’t know anyone who got any kind of Covid vax. I told everyone I could not to get it, but they were highly skeptical anyway. They don’t get childhood vaccinations so it’s not part of the culture and they don’t trust them much overall. Their bodies also have a lot of much more serious illnesses to fight like typhoid and malaria. (2 kids in one of the rural schools we work with have died just over the Christmas break from malaria.) One friend and his wife got Covid, and an elderly pastor friend, and that’s it that I know of. And NOT because they do anything at all for prevention. They can’t afford it.
There is a great correlation between no covid and IVM regularly used in central Africa, but high covid in S Africa and the Sahel/Sahara where it is not. Convinced the Japanese medical authorities to allow IVM as treatement.
Possibly also to do with parasites being more common. A study from Ethiopia (iirc) showed higher helminthic loads correlated with lower severity covid.
Ha ha exactly. Live in NY too and the maskers are everywhere lining up for jab #4! They don’t want to read or know anything unless it comes from CNN, ugh.
Indeed. And the virus has already played its best cards by now, practically everyone has been exposed to earlier strains, and it is now effectively the new common cold for the most part (except for those who have VAIDS, of course).
Wasn't this predicted, that the vaccine rearranged people's immune systems to not be able to develop immunity and thus be more susceptible to variants, at the same time as it bred variants. And if that's permanent, the vaxxed people will be getting Covid the rest of their lives.
Repeated jabs are changing the body’s antibody response, allowing for repeated breakthrough infections. Though perhaps milder, virus infections are not being cleared. If this holds true over time, immune systems are being irreversibly compromised.
Hi Igor, Whatever happens in this crazy world, I just want to thank you for keeping all of us informed. I'm unvaccinated, had Covid in Dec. 2020 and regularly take vitamin D, C and sometimes Zinc. I have ivermectin in case of infection... After reading this article, I feel nervous for my heavily vaccinated friends and for all of us a bit. I think you gave good advice: exercise and being outside is hugely important. I'm a semi-retired person who is not rich, but am a paid subscriber... Because I believe in you. Here's to a healthy and sane 2023. Keep up the great work! We appreciate you!
Elizabeth, thank you for your kind words and I wish you the best of health and to also to be happy in the new year.
Ivermectin Substitutions
Oil of Oregano
Sweet Wormwood
Black Seed Oil
Krill Oil
Quercetin Liposomal
Curcumin Liposomal
Glutathione Liposomal
Zinc
NAC
Vit-D3/K2 Liposomal
Vit-C Liposomal
Magnesium Glycinate
Be certain of source quality.
Dosage
Purity of Ingredients
No Fillers
Avoid cheap sources, usually compromised.
L-lysine in supplemental form, as opposed to simply whatever's in the diet, acts as an anti-viral by competing with L-arginine, which is essential for some viruses. Hence, lysine's use in prevention/treatment of herpes simplex. Looks like it might work for covid and Influenza A. In vitro study: https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/7/1301
L-lysine is an excellent anti-viral, as are natural HCQ, (apparently you can make is from citus by simmering Orange, Lemon and Grapefruit peels and the storing it in the fridge,) plus Zinc.
But Vitamin D levels are the most important of all; check them and supplement, especially in Winter!
Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life by Kate Rheaume-Bleue is the most important nutrition book in my collection because it totally explains why megadoses of D3 have gotten a bad rap for causing osteoporosis. The MK-7 variety of K2 will make sure that the calcium liberated by the D3 will get back into your bones instead of winding
up in your arteries and causing arteriosclerosis.
Doctors have a new stethoscopic protocol. They put the stethoscope cup on your neck and listen for turbulence in your carotid arteries, indicating the presence of plaque. Since arteriosclerosis generally starts in the carotid arteries, this can catch it early. I've had a couple of doctors marvel at the fact that this 68-year old male has no indication of plaque in my carotids, which I owe to taking 200mcg of MK-7 K2 every day.
Interesting, have taken Lysine for viral stuff in the past...
I suspect lysine is underrated. It's done me a solid over the years, even as a topical for wounds and cold sores. Great stuff, and obviously one of those first defender kind of things.
Part of healthy heart protocol of Linus Pauling; the other is vit. C.
The most important part of Pauling's protocol was intravenous ascorbic acid.
The lysine/arginine thing is confusing... Dr Ealy said arginine was the best but others say lysine. Take one and if that doesn't work, switch?
For Long Covid : Nattokinase too. I heard it reduces Spikes.
also prevents clots and breaks up the fibrin in old clots.
Oh, tks
One other point.
Be sure to take a Whole Plant Multivitamin with Minerals. Covers all the micro nutrient requirements. Whole Plant sources are expensive. I trust and use Marcola Vitamins for this product.
I use Mercola’s multivitamins too! Not cheap but worth it!
for several years I have used Consumerlab.com for supplement quality control research. costs $35/year but I tend to only buy sup's they have reviewed for quality, quantity vs. label, and they do a nice price comp of the brands that pass.
Great list, here is a link to an article I put together that offers some helpful additions to that list: https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/natural-pathways-for-optimizing-the
Also, I think it is worth noting that whole food sources of the compounds you listed above are often more effective than supplement forms (due to a number of factors). Additionally, if one can get these compounds from a whole food that is lacto-fermented this serves to increase the bioavailability of said medicinal compounds while offering the synergistic benefits of bolstering the gut microbiome (which plays a key role in the function of the immune system). This is especially true of medicinal superfoods like turmeric because the fermentation process actually increases the content of specific curcuminoids (such as tetrahydro-curcumin which is increased by 1000% due to the metabolic activity of the lactic acid bacteria that are part of the fermenting process).
There is always a better solution than assaulting yourself with hoardes of alien molecules, whether pharmaceutical or over the counter or harvested from gardens -- maintain a healthy immune system. Those who get sick from routine respiratory viruses are universally suffering from chronic conditions that degrade immune health, mostly voluntary. Many people have been tested to identify antibodies from infections they didn't even know they had. We should want to be like them. Apparently most just want a magic potion and a donut. This is how nature cleans out the gene pool. Some people just don't belong here.
Please do no call naturally occurring molecules as alien. I take 8 pills a day, (breakfast looks like something George Jetson ate.) Vitamins C, D, and K2, zinc, magnesium, Quercetin, and fish oil are all naturally occurring and are in the foods you eat. Not alien or foreign.
I avoid the multivitamins, and depend upon diet for the other stuff. I suppose N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine would not be considered natural as it is a modified amino acid. You do get Cysteine in foods. I take it after being poisoned by shed covid spikes through sweat on a dentists chair. No evidence of shed mRNA poisoning.
I would like to add another point that supports David's argument for it being more beneficial to get your vitamins, nutrients and medicine from food (rather than supplements) by highlighting the fact that supply lines (shipping and manufacturing infrastructure) are becoming increasingly unreliable and will be prone to major disruptions in the near future. Add onto that the fact that our entire financial/monetary system (which allows you to remotely order and have supplements delivered to you, or for you to pay for them at a store locally) is dependent on fragile telecommunications infrastructure that is also vulnerable to major disruptions in the near future (due to a number of factors, one potential factor being large scale solar storms https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/preparing-for-the-100-year-storms ). Thus, given that your ability to continue to access these supplement forms of naturally occurring medicinal molecules can not be relied upon in the long term, even if the supplements were as effective as getting the same thing from whole foods (which they aren't) it would be irresponsible to depend solely on supplements and not take steps to also be able to source out those life giving and healing compounds in whole foods you can access locally (preferably from your garden).
Most supplements and medicines come from China.
I was not aware of that but it does not surprise me given how much of the mass produced things sold in stores now are from there. I rarely buy supplements (except for a few types of medicinal mushroom extracts that I cannot grow or forage for locally) and strive to only buy from companies that source their plant and fungal medicines from regenerative farmers and or ethically harvest from the wild. My current focus is helping those that are motivated to stop depending on centralized food and medicine systems and to begin creating decentralized food and medicine production systems on a residential and community scale using permaculture design methodology. I feel like at this point it is the most important thing any of us can be doing to prepare to be capable of weathering the storm(s) ahead.
A major problem for the US is we don't have enough manufacturing capacity to supply our own needs, and don't have enough agricultural capacity to produce enough uncontaminated food to sustain the population. We could probably convert our production to supply our needs, if the population wanted it. They don't. They prefer processed foods and cheap foreign products. It won't end well for most of us.
Some have to learn the hard way, I outline what I see as one viable pathway to be capable of weathering the storm ahead in this article https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/in-pursuit-of-an-antidote-for-parasites (or at the very least, a pathway that enables us to be able to plant the seeds for a future worth giving to those that will call this place home after we are gone).
Epic. I need to study that a little more.
I do, too. But I'm working to reduce and eliminate them. Correct diet eliminates need for supplements. We're constructed to thrive on optimum balance of nutrients. Altering the balance to force improvement in one outcome inevitably degrades another. Better to get your naturally occurring nutrients in naturally occurring foods, not manufactured pills. Unless you have a natural pill tree.
Unfortunately, food has lost over 40% of its nutritional value in the last 50 years because of poor farming practices, pesticides, GMO products, and all the other wonderful stuff delivered by the agricultural industrial complex. Most of us don't have the capability of growing all our own food, and organic is becoming more expensive every day.
Nancy, while you make a great point regarding how the industrial abuse of soil is resulting in plummeting nutritional density in store bought produce this only highlights the imperative for individuals to be taking steps to create rich fertile soil via composting at home and growing some of their own food (no matter how small the set up is every bit counts).
While most of us may not be able to grow all of our own food, we should not use that as an excuse not to grow any at all.
I often encounter people that make the excuse of having no access to land so when I was doing research for writing my gardening/recipe book I experimented with cultivating nutrient dense food and medicine indoors and in containers. I was able to grow significant amounts of ginger, kale, tulsi (aka “holy basil”), microgreens and protein rich gourmet mushrooms using only a south facing window with pots lined up and some mason jars that I filled with spent coffee grounds (for growing oyster mushrooms). Anyone that is motivated can do that (and more) at the very least, and the health benefits that are offered even by growing a steady supply of those things are non-trivial.
Gavin, I'm 75 years old and I grow veggies all year long. Right now, despite some wicked cold weather, I've got cabbage and lettuce growing, and more under grow lights, plus I regularly sprout to supplement. However, I'm an anomaly. Most people don't understand that most of the food in the grocery stores are really not that nutritional. In addition, most people are lazy and spend precious dollars in drive thrus. Many of my friends eat out several days a week; a practice I avoid as I usually get sick since my body is unaccustomed to preservatives. They fail to understand the correlation between their food and numerous trips to the doctor. I'm trying to educate my friends, but most of them took the jab. Need I say more?
Plus I have 5 laying hens even though I live in the suburbs. No rooster. (I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission, and they're much quieter than dogs.)
That is beautiful! :)
Yes that is true, the lack of education (and pervasiveness of propaganda) about the detriments of store bought food is widespread. As for the laziness, stagnation and apathy (which I too observe and acknowledge is present in the minds of a pretty sizable chunk of the population there in southern Ontario) some people have to learn the hard way. I offer an open hand to many of them (as our Mother Earth has been at key moments in their lives) but if the invitation to take responsibility for their own lives, health and ability to feed themselves and their loved ones goes unanswered, they will have to learn the hard way when those hyper-centralized systems they depend on to get all the junk they eat implode (and they will).
Yes that is fascinating isn't it, people eating the toxic modern western diet and then being mystified about the skyrocketing instances of degenerative health conditions, cancer, etc. My current approach to help break that cycle is to get to the little ones and help them to know what real food taste like and offer them hands on experience growing, harvesting and enjoying crops before the propaganda of the corporatocracy gets to them (via community gardens we set up and after school programs etc.)
Thank you for being the lovely anomalous and determined person that you are. You give me hope that a select few human beings that are choosing courage, hope, determination and love/respect (for themselves and the living planet) will create enough pockets of regeneration and abundance to weather the storm ahead.
I watch very little tv but Jeopardy is an addiction. It's amazing the number of pharmaceutical and fast food ads shown in a half hour. The irony of that is not lost on me.
I just signed up for your newsletter. Sigh...more to read.😉. You look young in that tiny picture, so that gives me hope, and hope is in short supply these days. I see you live in Canada which is just as totalitarian as the US. We visited Ontario in 2008 and found it beautiful and the micro culture of farming fascinating. I look forward to reading your newsletter, and learning more.
The first step is learning what works, and what doesn't. The medical industry resists teaching that, to patients and even to doctors, since it's not as profitable as selling patent meds to increasingly sick patients. We're on our own.
That's exactly why I see a functional doctor.
My morning as well. I have never had an episode of shedding though.
Good list- I take all of that plus melatonin which is a wonder drug!
People should check their reaction to melatonin; if it can be taken during the day without becoming drowsy, that may be better than at night. I took one 10mg "Slow release" tablet to try it, and had a miserable night of the same dull dream sequence that seemed to take forever to end. Maybe I'll try half-pill doses some time, but I didn't see anything miraculous -- or even helpful -- about it. Glad you had positive results.
I was allergic to melatonin it completely upset my digestive system to the point that I couldn’t leave the house. I asked every doctor if the melatonin that I was taking could cause that reaction and ALL OF THEM said NO. I stopped taking the melatonin and within 1 day I was fine. I am beginning to think doctors are idiots. I had to go through a colonoscopy before taking matters into my own hands. This had gone on for months.
Does the exact same thing to me.
Weird. I guess we're all different.
Maybe the PHA'S should have taken that into consideration?
Yes, it's amazing!
Don.... it gives me a morning headache most of the time
So now I’m trying a 3mg cut in half.
Sometimes dreams goes wonky and It all seems slow motion.....like I’m so quietly yelling out “can someone help me out of here” 🤦♀️
Some people say they can take loads of melatonin....
Not sure if it’s messing with my crydian clock ⏰ or off setting it in any way 🤔
I turn on red Xmas lights at night so no blue hue lighting is messing up my sleep...
I find red lighting so calming but yet festive 🎈
Thanks for this information, as I have no idea where to find Ivermectin.
http://gomedicinecounter.com/ It’s in Tennessee.
Alldaychemist.com
Yes, watch for your Vit. D3 sources.
Mushrooms can be a powerful ally in empowering motivated individuals to be able to produce our own source of dietary Vitamin D in the winter via exposing mushrooms to UV light before consuming.
Mushrooms and animal skins create vitamin D when exposed to sunlight. Mushrooms are rich in the vitamin D precursor ergosterol, which ultraviolet B (between wavelengths of 290 nm to 315 nm) converts to ergocalciferols, also called provitamin D2.
Similar to when humans are exposed to sunlight (or a sunlamp), mushrooms convert a precursor to vitamin D, called ergosterol, into vitamin D₂ when exposed to UV light.
And though this vitamin D is technically different from the vitamin D₃ found in animal products, that vitamin D is indeed bioavailable, or absorbable by the body. As a vegan source of vitamin D, it is just as effective at elevating and maintaining blood levels of the nutrient, (according to research by a Dr. Holick and colleagues). It’s also “the only pharmaceutical form of D available in the United States,” he adds. This means that the D you’re getting from mushrooms is exactly what you’d be getting in a pharmaceutical/supplement form. In fact, research has shown that consuming 2000 IU of vitamin D₂, whether from mushrooms or from supplements, leads to the same levels of vitamin D (25-hydroxyvitamin D) in the blood as consuming vitamin D₃.
For more info on how to increase the levels of Vitamin D in mushrooms before eating them via exposing them to UV light: https://fungi.com/blogs/articles/place-mushrooms-in-sunlight-to-get-your-vitamin-d#:~:text=Mushrooms%20and%20animal%20skins%20create,ergocalciferols%2C%20also%20called%20provitamin%20D2.
You can either place your mushrooms in the sunlight for 30 min-an hour before cooking for an extra vitamin d boost or you can use UVB lights and super charge them with vitamin d indoors when ever you want. You can do this with any type of mushrooms you like to eat and you will be able to increase the vitamin d levels to some degree, though Shiitake have been shown to be capable of synthesizing a particularly high amount of vitamin d when exposed to UV light as compared to other species.
For more info : https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/making-allies-in-the-fungal-queendom
You said it so beautifully!❤
If you dont mind where did you get Ivermectin from? I tried 4 online pharmacies spend aroud $450 and I still have no ivermectin. Im in Canberra.
Ivermectin is on the blacklist for Australia. I tried to get some from the US and it got impounded by customs. ATAGI which is behind all this, has a basic statement that it encourages vaccine hesitancy BUT it also admits that ivermectin is a possible treatment. Sick, sick bastards funded by you know who - the big Harma.
Check online with Happy family pharmacy.com
I bought Ivermectin/Stromectol and antibiotics through them. It ships through France, so it takes 2-3 weeks to receive it. Prices are very reasonable.
my IVM order from them was not fulfilled
I get my ivermectin from alldaychemist.com. Have you tried that? My family and I have gotten multiple orders filled, and when one got lost they reshipped. It comes from various countries and usually takes close to a month, but it comes!
Alldaychemist is also where I got mine, I live in North Carolina and it arrived in two weeks.
I also live in NC and ordered from Alldaychemist. It took a month, but did receive it.
Do you need prescription? How is the payment made? Are there small packs and large packs and different mg's. About how much per pill?
Do you need prescription? How is the payment made? Are there small packs and large packs and different mg's. About how much per pill?
I did not need a prescription, but it did a have space to put one when ordering. I left it blank. It also asked for your doctor's information, I filled it out but not sure if you have to. There are different mg's and amounts you can buy. I bought 100, 15mg Ivermectin and 100, 200mg of HCQ. My order total was $135. Still more than it probably should be, but much cheaper than going through the online doctors you can get it from. The Ivermectin expires December 2023, the HCQ expires October 2025. My sister in Ohio also orders from them. They keep you informed every step of the way and give you tracking number for your order.
I paid with Echeck. Can't remember if that was the only option.
Thank you so much.
Me too. They are excellent. One has to find a payment method that works. No credit card. I opened a separate bank account just to do a bank draft. Have had multiple orders and no others who have had great service as well. One month turned around is true.
Nigella sativa is black seed oil a supplement substitute for ivm on Flccc protocol. You can grow the plant or eat sprouts if find a source of the seeds. Vit d and a with food for best absorption. Best.
Black seed oil was very beneficial for my long-COVID cough.
It's Good to know about black seed oil helping coughs.😊
I get my black seed oil from Healthy Traditions. Been ordering from them for years and love many of their products, esp. coconut cream concentrate. The owner of the company is the most cautious person I know with regards to pure food and NO GMO's. Just thought I'd give a great company a plug!
I have been taking that regularly for over a year as a supplement. Will see… had the fauci flu twice- 2nd time done in 2 days.
My friend takes it daily and swears that it has done 2 things for him - made is balding hair grow back AND helped with his blood sugar control. He dropped his metformin, and I have seen the before and after pictures on his head. The hair really IS growing back. Weird effect. It is how I got people to take it who wouldn't otherwise take it - told em, yes, but its great for hair loss! Presto they went to get it - and take it. And these are the type who poo poo any 'covid' treatments. So, a tiny win. And yes, BTW people recovering from Covid do lose hair more...
The Nigella sativa did this? Thanks
Buy the black seed oil and add a bit to coffee or tea
Oh my! The thymol type taste will be something to overcome... but seeing as I suddenly can't smell or taste I guess now is a good time to try it.
Lisa (below) mentioned black seed oil. It's excellent! Also quercetin and zinc. Dr. Zelenko was treating covid with HCQ and zinc (as well as Vit D and C) and he stated that if you can't get HCQ, quercetin is a good substitute. I would keep quercetin, zinc, black seed oil, vit D, and possibly some herbal tinctures like Baikal Scullcap on hand. Oh, juice from fresh ginger root is a powerful antiviral. Licorice root as well. A good reference is Herbal Antivirals by Stephen Harrod Buhner. He's also the author of Herbal Antibiotics. Both books are excellent!
You mention ginger- my favorite anti viral flu tea is fresh ginger and garlic, simmered for 20 min then strained, lemon and honey added to taste. This got me through a lot of days when I had to work when sick, bringing me back into normalcy quite quickly.
yes, garlic also has antiviral activity. It's not as strong as an antibiotic as was previously thought, but it is an antiviral. Fresh ginger juice I should mention is impossible to drink without diluting. So the way I make it is to cut the ginger root into 1 inch pieces, put them in a blender, add enough water to be able to blend, then blend for a minute or so and then strain out the pulp. Because you have to add water to the juice to be able to drink it, adding water to be able use the blender instead of a juicer makes it easier and quicker to make. You can store this diluted ginger juice in the fridge for several days at least.
Yes! Stephen Buhner's books are a priceless resource, not just for covid but for all illnesses, now that we've all become medical skeptics. Richo Cech's books are also excellent.
Thanks i agree with all treatment add ons. I used skullcap herb for 2021. Several practitioners mentioned its anticv mechanisms i had cv dec2021from family member who played half day indoor volleyball event. I am shotfree, had mild case, three day gradual up down fever, never lost taste or smell and never lost appetite, mild headache for 3 days which is rare for me. No test but daughter and hubby were both positive by pcr. I was taking several herbs skullcap, black seed quercetin vit d previously. I added 5 day ivm capsules at onset of fever headache. Hubby continued to exercise rigorously,dispute my warning, had a longer more exhaustive case. He did not take any herbs only vit d quercetin and 5 day ivm. Young adult daughter double jabbed had mild cases and only took additional vit d. Probably mild cases due to her age. Yes ginger tea is awesome as is homemade ginger ale.i used these as well.
Update I forgot to add that we used nasal hygiene. Homemade alt washes and pyrovidone iodine sprays every 4 hours.
Thyme, rehmannia and echinacea too.
The problem isn't pharma, or government, it's your neighbors, who tolerate oppression. Eventually we'll get serious about protecting ourselves from threats that really matter. Until then, well distract ourselves with hysteria over inconsequential bugs.
Spot on! This 1000%.
That makes too much sense Mr. Watson
You must have better neighbors than I do. Some of mine don't make much sense. I try to help them.
I left my neighbors in April of 20' for Florida.
Remember, chloroquine and Hydroxycloroquine are derived from Quinine.
Think the British, India, and Gin and Tonics. ; )))
We humans have been fighting diseases with plant extracts for a very long time! And if it's Mother Nature's molecule pHarma cannot steal or patent it.
So, find Her substitutes, they are always out there.
Good luck, and keep your Vitamin D levels high!
Try a horse/tack store, for IVM supplements. Get the one without the boticide.
This is a perfectly safe product. If you still can’t get it, then make sure to get NAC and Quercetin. These worked well for us, with D, C, Zinc too.
Thanks for the heads up on IVM. I have read very carefully the FLCC and I am using their suggested alternatives. Quercetin, vitamins D and C + Zinc are essential.
My Aussie friend, you’ve gone thru a lot, I can’t believe what I’ve seen and read about Oz, it has resembled a totalitarian Soviet Russia state. It was on my bucket list, but, it is now scratched off the list . FYI, I'm in Canada, and yes, we have been treated like sub-humans here too. I’m disgusted with this country, tarnished forever!
What you have read probably does not cover the depth of the horror here. I never thought I would see the police harass old ladies who tried to get fresh air in a park or use rubber bullets on people protesting the restrictions. Yet, it all happened - they copied China's totalitarian garbage here. My commiserations for Canada - such a beautiful place and such a psycho in power.
I saw coverage from Avi@RebelNews from some of the riots and demonstrations. Detention camps, and Stasi like police. Bizarre and infuriating. And to this day, your police want neighbours to turn in neighbours for “misinformation and anti-government sentiments”. Nazi Germany anybody?
Yes, Pink Hitler is a disgusting creature, but 30% of the country still loves him and sees him as a saviour. He has bought the media and press as well, nothing terrible is ever said by them.
We live in opposite world, whatever the government or media says, believe the opposite to be true!
30%? Wow that is massive. And depressing. The media all over world has a lot to answer for. I would put them in the same category as the medicos who administered the jabs - life in prison, no parole.
Canadian politics, the Liberal Party always exploits it. Their base is southern Ontario (Toronto) and French Quebec. Plus, they throw welfare at the Maritimes to own them, welfare and handouts, pandering to this country’s lowest denominator. Win those regions, and you control the country. Western Canada hates Trudeau. I see no solutions other than their supporters die by jab. And I’m okay with that. Happy New Year
Happy New Year. It may sound naïve but probably a simpler solution for places like Canada and Oz is to have a very, very weak federal and state government that is only there for a unified military and customs/trade purposes. The power should rest with the local (and I do mean really local) government and the police should be paid by the individual towns to prevent any sort of overall tyranny that we have seen in both places. If the pay-check for the police comes from the local community then I am willing to bet that would be telling any State or Federal body to get lost if totalitarian measure are dictated from above. After all, it is in their own interest to be in agreement with the communities that pay them.
Try getting Isoprinosine instead of IVM; another anti-parasitic, and it works a treat. The mass murderers may not be wise to it yet.
Have they got nothing better to do than snoop through people's post?
Well, when it comes to forcing people to get jabbed, they go all out. You would think that drugs (such as ice) and fentanyl would be the ones to try to stop but that is not the case. They even admit that Ivermectin can be used to treat Covid but it "encourages vaccine hesitancy" and they cannot have any of that. Sick, sick, evil scum.
Get horse paste from a local online pet store. Equimec.
Is that the same form of Ivermectin used for pets and humans? I read multiple posts saying it is...and I still feel a bit hesitant. Maybe its time I challenge my prejudice. Thank you.
Bibi, there are other things that will work for Covid other than Ivermectin, even though Ivermectin is excellent, though I just posted a caution about using the veterinary form, below. But I also just posted on Quercetin as effective for Covid, and also Black Cumin = Black Seed (from the plant Nigella Sativa), and NAC (n-acetylcystein). I will be be posting more over the weekend - here, it is going on 4 a.m. now and I have not yet gone to bed tonight, need to sleep, but you can look for my posts over the weekend. I am a healthcare professional, I have been treating Covid, and from experience, and from publishe reports, I am confident that Quercetin is helpful - And Vitamin D is hugely important - there are things you should be able to access that will help you to stay well or to treat Covid if necessary, without Ivermectin. Though Ivermectin is excellent, but you need to have 0.4 mg. per kg of your body weight, and if you have enough information to definitely get the amount you need for you - good - though I'm not permitted to recommend the veterinary form, even though I'm writing here without my full name, I hesitate. The biggest thing is getting the correct dose because if the dose is way too low, it is not going to help you, and I am aware that the product labeling can be unhelpful and I know of people who were underdosed for that reason.
Yes, I had calculated it for the paste for horses, and the dose by weight recommended on the tube only ended up being 0.2 mg/kg. That not enough for covid. I had also gotten pills from 7 Cells, and only took 0.2 mg/kg. I ended up in the hospital for 2 months and on a ventilator for 5 weeks. It's a miracle I survived, and I now have permanent lung fibrosis from the ventilator. The dose for covid is 0.4 to 0.6 mg/kg.
Michelle. I am so very sorry for your lung damage.
I hope it improves.
My brother who had your same experience was told that he was going to need a lung transplant but his lungs have improved a lot. They told him that they are learning a lot about covid and the lungs and that what they thought was damage was some coating that eventually goes away. God bless you and heal your lungs.
Thank you so much! Sorry for such a delayed response... I usually can't find comments again to reply on my phone; I have to get on my computer to relocate them... That is thrilling to hear that your brother has had such an amazing recovery and that now he doesn't need a transplant! You are right. There is a lot the medical establishment thinks they know that they don't fully understand. God bless you and your brother as well!
Thank you!
ivermectin is only a mild antiviral. I hope people know not to use it as a monotherapy
yes, I think it's best to use several antivirals like Quercetin, Zinc, Black Seed oil, herbal tinctures of antiviral plants like Baikal Scullcap, juice from fresh ginger, licorice root tea, and even high doses of Vit D (50,000 units/day). The high dose Vit D should be done for 3 days only, not longer.
My dad and some friends had great results using it as a monotherapy. You just have to hit it very fast.
All the standard protocols are triple-therapy, starting with the (possibly very first) one developed by Prof. Borody in Australia. On the other hand, if it is parasites, and not so much a viral infection one needs to get rid off ...
add HCQ with Ivermectin, Black Seed Oil and Quercetin. Add Zinc and vit D3 plus k1,2 - continuously be on the 10 international units of Vit d3 with the balancing K1,2 as a 'preventative' even if not sick. When you start getting the cold/flu symptoms, hit it hard. Fluvoxamine, Steroids, and something like Tamiflu may also be needed. I also like the Native American Indians extract of Pitcher Plant which was found to be quite effective at stopping smallpox virus from replication....Merrimac Indians used it to combat the smallpox outbreak.
Yes, thank you for your comment. Originally, it was thought that 0.2 mg. per kg would be adequate, and with the original Covid, this actually was effective for many people, as I treated many at that dose, and some of the research showed that lower dose to be effective for many. But - absolutely, the new recommendation is 0.4 mg. to 0.6, and 0.4 mg/kg is normally what I prescribe and what I would take myself if ill, for sure. In my area, rather than going with the horse paste, I have known of a number of people who have used the liquid intended for injection and it was really impossible to calculate correctly for humans the way it was labeled. It said how many millileters per pound for animals but you did the same for humans, it was vastly underdosed and the people took many weeks to recover. I am so sorry you went through this and are still suffering from the fibrosis. Ventilators are bad treatment for Covid, though supplemental oxygen through a less invasive means, can be helpful at that stage along with methylprednisolone which is apparently the most helpful steroid when you get beyond the first week and need something more for an adverse respiratory situation. Or, I do prescribe budesonide through a nebulizer to inhale when oxygen is starting to go below normal, to try to avoid need for hospitalization. Budesonide was shown to be safe and effective for Covid in two trials in England through Oxford University, or at least one of them was done by Oxford, leading to UK approving budesonide as an established medication for Covid. Here in US, most doctors don't think of it, though there is a website, I think it is budesonideworks where there are listings of doctors who will prescribe budesonide. In the clinical trials the requirement was, to be in the study you had to start budesonide during the first 7 days of illness with Covid, and it was effective - but typically I would start with Ivermectin plus vitamins and supplements, and then only add on budesonide perhaps late in the first week if the person was having severe cough, or oxgen getting a little low - really, I go by how the person is doing. I had one patient who woke up in the morning the first day that he tested positive, and his oxygen was quite suddenly in the 80's, where it should be at least 95. We decided to try a budesonide treatment one time to see if we could avoid hospital, and he had some immediate improvement, and then within 24 hours and continuing, he was able to keep his oxygen either normal or very nearly so without it dropping so low again. And I also had another man who had been to hospital emergency but left because they said they would be too busy to see him till morning anyway - his oxygen was in the 80's, which is too low, and might have been reason to hospitalize - I gave him a prescription for budesonide to try, and his oxygen went up to 95. He was worried I was not a sufficient expert on Covid, so he went back to the Emergency the next morning, and they said they didn't need to do anything for him - said to "go home and do whatever she tells you." He'd been to emergency more than once and they did know what his oxygen had been doing - low but apparently not low enough for them to have decided to admit to hospital. Anyway, afer he started on budesonide at home, he did very well. Plus he also had a steroid dose pack, probably prednisone, that they had given him on a previous visit to the Emergency Department, so he stayed on that also, and sometimes you do use tablets plus budesonide - budesonide is a steroid, but you're breathing it directly into the lungs where it can do the most good, and as used in the nebulizer, you get a stornger dose than you would in a budesonide inhaler. I think the UK studies on Budesonide are accessible online if one wanted to discuss this with one's physician as a possible means of treating Covid in future. It is actually an approved med in UK, and here in US it has not come to attention where it has been banned for Covid - seems to be a bit "under the radar" and not forbidden. And it usually is extremely helpful. If you google "budesonide" you may find news articles that refer back to the Oxford research, and at least one of the articles is available for free download - I think one of the studies was published in Lancet which has long been considered one of the top medical journals in the world. Also, if you get Covid again, besides a stronger dose of Ivermectin, you might consider if available, NAC 600 mg. twice a day which is n-acetylcysteine. Here the FDA tried to suppress it for a good while, but it was never entirely off the market, and now they are leaving it alone. It is a supplement and non-prescription, and it is something natural that is in the body of every human being who is alive, and this nothing harmful about it. It can help to prevent some of the damage caused by Covid, and cleans up toxins. It is an anti-oxidant. It has been used in hospitals for preventing liver and kidney damage in some types of situations unrelated to Covid, for decades, and it is helpful in Covid. Another thing is that both in the US and in Japan, many doctors who treat Covid are recommending that unless you are on blood thinners, or are allergic, or some other reason that you can't take aspirin, take one aspirin every day while you have Covid and for a few weeks after - it helps to rid the body of spike protein which is what apparently causes a lot of the damage. Even after you are well, there can still be dead virus in the body that you react to, so many US doctors say to take aspirin 325 mg. daily x 30 days, while in Japan i understand they are recommending x 90 days. I say take it with food, like, eat first, then the aspirin right away - on an empty stomach some people may develop a stomach ulcer, so always with food on the stomach, and stop if you are one who starts to get stomach pain to avoid a problem. Or, there is coated aspirin that some can take. Aspirin is not for prevention, but just if you do get Covid again - and you can still take whatever else you want for pain or fever, whether ibuprofen or acetominophen (paracetamol in some countries, same molecule, different name) - but just the one a day of aspirin specifically to help clear the spike protein. As well as NAC.
I read about getting liquid IVM for horses and dosing it from there. I haven't done this, however. I've still had 100% success using the povidone iodine nasal spray that I made according to a recipe from Dr. McCullough/FLCC website. For the third time in the last 6 or 8 months, about 2 days ago I felt "off" like I might be getting sick and when I would swallow my throat and ears hurt slightly, that feeling you get when you might be getting a cold. So once again I used my nasal spray....several sprays in each side of the nose, and also in my throat (spit it out after). Next day that feeling was gone and I'm fine. I'm also taking D, zinc, C, Quercetin, NAC. So far so good. My husband has had the same results, I'll add.
I've been taking lugol's iodine this past year, and used thieves oil blend, as well as a few other tactics, as I work around people in the medical profession, and they are always vaxxing themselves with something or another, and I'm constantly exposed to the shed.
It needs saying that NAC may be tricky, esp. with ladies - there could be an allergic reaction (see studies). Prior to its use in a pressing emergency, it would be advisable to try it out in a small dose, and watch for response. Interestingly, NAC seems to be used in case of paracetamol poisoning, and frankly, I am not keen on either it or ibuprofen.
You had also added a comment about zinc, though I don't see that now, so this is out of place, but I wanted to say more about zinc. I was aware of the fact that too much zinc for very long can backfire and cause some adverse effects, including the copper deficiency you mention. Which is why usually for zinc, the 50 mg. twice a day I recommend is usually for very short term. My understanding is that zinc will help to prevent the virus from replicating, so immediately at the start of Covid symptoms, I recommend 50 mg. twice a day - BUT my understanding is that the Covid virus apparently only replicates for about a week, maybe 10 days, but it does die out after a week and the rest of what happens is the over-reacation of our immune system that can still react to dead virus that has not yet cleared. Once the virus is dead, there is no danger of it multiplying, so no need for zinc then. So the 50 mg. twice a day would only be for a week or ten days, in my opinion, and because it is short-term it doesn't seem to be a problem. The FLCCC doctors at https://covid19criticalcare.com/ recommend this dose for outpatient treatment, and actually I've seen literature showing that zinc works for the flu virus, colds, and many other viruses. For prevention, there is a aspect of dosing that I find time consuming to explain, so I don't always. But - I am aware that here in the US we have a zinc product, zinc gluconate 220 mg. which delivers 50 mg. per dose. This may seem confusing to some on the face of it, but the thing is, the whole entire tablet weighs 220 mg. apparently, but part of the weight is in the zinc, and part of the weight is in the sulfate, so the zinc weighs 50 mg. and the sulfate apparently weighs 170 mg. So the greater part of the weight is the sulfate. You would take 220 mg. of zinc sulfate twice a day to get 50 mg. twice a day for treatment. But in reality, due to supply chain issue, I have rarely had patients abel to get the zinc sulfate, so they take zinc gluconate or other things and I am not always sure they get the whole amount. If the labeling says "Zinc gluconate 50 mg." I would think they are getting less than 50 mg. of actual zinc since part of the weight would be the gluconate and it might not be very much zinc at all, though it would be something. Anyway, the FLCCC physicians used to recommend 50 mg. daily for prevention, in cases where people are continuing to take something perhaps for several years to prevent Covid. IF it is a few days of prevention after a possible exposure, 50 mg. of any form of zinc for a few days should be fine; if people are intending to take long term, true, as you said, it ought to be 30 or 40 mg. of zinc and not 50 mg IF it's every day, with 40 mg of actual zinc being the usual daily limit. When you find zinc gummies or zinc lozenges in pharmacies or stores, usually it just says, zinc, 10 mg. or zinc, 25 mg. and whatever it is, they are giving the amount of actual zinc and not the weight of some combined molecule. So, for these, I think you can definitely rely on the milligram on the label being the actual amount of zinc, and I tend to think the lozenges or gummies may be a bit better than a tablet because the zinc is passing by your throat on the way down, and perhaps getting a head start that way. And it's easy if you have 10 mg. lozenges to just have one four times a day for the 40 mg. of prevention. So that is my thought on zinc, but you are right - some physicians are still saying 50 mg. for prevention, but when it is for more than a few days it ought not be more than 40 mg. per day for prevention, though most US Covid experts - thinking of the FLCCC and also McCullough - recommend 50 mg twice a day if ill with Covid.
(About NAC, n-acetylcysteine). Thank you for this comment. I appreciate hearing this alternative perspective, and I would be interested to know more about your experience with this, or any source material. I had viewed a video by Dr. Mobeen Sayed in which he showed how NAC works and how it would be helpful in Covid. "Dr. Been" produces teaching videos for continuing education for physicians and also for medical students and other healthprofessionals, though I don't remember if this one had been approved for credit. Some of his videos are at you tube, though they took down most of the Covid videos, I think, but he also has them at Odyesee and at his own website. In addition, I have a colleague who has done neuroscience / brain research, who takes NAC himself and recommends it to patients for various purposes. I am aware that every living human being produces NAC so we have our own internal supply, which seems to indicate a level of safety, though apparently what we have on board on our own may not be sufficient to meet our needs in the case of an overwhelming amount of toxins from Covid - or from paracetamol (acetominophen / Tylenol) overdose. Yes, it's been used for decades as a life-saving treatment in cases of acetominophen poisoning, where people would certainly have died without it. It's also been used medically to protect the kidneys when radioactive dye must be used to image kidneys that may already be unwell. Another medical use has been in cystic fibrosis. I had never heard of problems with NAC until you have mentioned it. I would add that the Frontline Covid 19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC at FLCCC.net recommends NAC in some of their various Covid treatment protocols. This group is NOT the one affiliated with Dr. Simone Gold, but is a very scholarly group including Dr. Marik who is an international authority on critical care treatment, who has taught in medical schools and written textbooks and book chapters etc. long before he became known for his work with Covid, and also Dr. Pierre Kory who also treats ICU patients and has taught medical school, and published extensively in the same field of critical care, who now has a private practice where he focuses primarily on Covid treatment and prevention, and long Covid. The fact that they have looked at the resesarch and recommend it makes me relatively confident that I have not been misled about NAC, and I take it myself though not related to Covid, but for another reason. I don't recall it being recommended for prevention, but definitely for use in Covid treatment. Still, I appreciate your comment, and I am always interested to make sure I have not missed anything important in this time of medical censorship and misinformation from so many sources. You say you are not keen on NAC or ibuprofen - they are really completely unrelated to each other even though both do have anti-inflammatory properties. I have always told patients that if they need something for pain and fever during Covid, they can take ibuprofen as one of their options, if they normally would take it, but I don't urge it on people - ibuprofen should never be taken on an empty stomach because it can cause tissue damage there, cause an ulcer in the stomach, even a bleeding ulcer which can be very dangerous - though if not used excessively, if taken while food is in the stomach, and if the person knows to STOP taking it if they have stomach pain - then it's fine for many people especially short term use. However, I recently had a patient with a history of heart surgery and blood pressure issues - his wife was giving him ibuprofen for pain and fever, and his blood pressure shot up to a dangerous level. That is not a frequent effect of ibuprofen, but adverse effects on blood pressure and heart function have been written up in the medical literature, and his blood pressure improved immediately when ibuprofen was stopped, so I'm sure it was that and nothing that I had prescribed. So, yes, certainly ibuprofen and that whole class of ANSAID medications are a "two-edged sword," certainly potential benefit, but also some risks that can be more serious than people realize. However, NAC is not an ANSAID, and I have not seen or experienced any side effects from it, but at the molecular level there are some important beneficial effects. I don't think of NAC as being for pain or fever at all, but really, for cleaning up toxins in the body to prevent tissue damage. Okay, you mention there could be an allergic reaction to NAC - but NAC is an essential thing that is in every human body, so I can't imagine how we could be allergic to NAC itself - it may be some filler in the tablet or something added to make the tablet hold together that could have produced the allergic reaction - I can't comprehend how NAC could possibly cause an allergic reaction. If you have any links or specific references, that would be helpful. Thanks.
First, my apologies for some sloppy syntax. The last sentence should have read: ... I am not keen on either [paracetamol] or ibuprofen.
NAC is generally fine, yet it is good to be aware of any potential issues; as usual, there are also possible interactions. https://www.drugs.com/sfx/nac-side-effects.html
I would not have known about the risk of an allergic reaction had I not seen a diabetic in her sixties experience one. The symptoms were: agitation (possibly tachycardia), sleeplessness, rash in the upper torso, neck and face; all subsided spontaneously within 48 hours.
A couple of references:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6523726/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29423816/
While taking supplemental NAC orally for the first time, it may be good to have some antihistamines at hand, just in case.
Thank you for this. With the two pubmed articles, both were allergic reactions after the IV NAC. I looked up what was in the IV solution, and it includes disodium edetate. I looked up disodium edetate and that has a list of adverse reactions that include "feeling like you might pass out; or
severe blistering, peeling, or red skin rash. nausea, vomiting, diarrhea; numbness or tingling (especially around your mouth); headache; or pain, redness, or swelling where the needle is placed" and others. Some of these side effects overlap with what has been reported for NAC, so I'm wondering a little bit if this could be related to an additive - maybe the disodium edetate - in the IV formulation and not a true allergy to NAC. But then again, at drugs.com where they list the various side effects, it says "applies to acetylcysteine: oral capsule, oral solution. Other dosage forms: inhalation solution; intravenous solution. So, the side effects listed do apply to the oral capsules, and there is no breakdown over what percentage of side effecs from capsules vs. IV solutions etc. So then I went and looked at what I have on hand myself - a bottle of NAC tablets that include 8 different ingredients besides the NAC (including Croscamellose which I've never heard of, peppermint flavor and more), also NAC capsules with only 3 extra ingredients. So, in whatever forms we obtain NAC, there will be extra ingredients and one or more of those additives might cause an allergic reaction. I truly can't comprehend how NAC itself could cause an allergic reaction but as formulated and purchased, obviously it can, and good to know. As I started thinking about "extras" in our meds, I remembered the Zantac / ranitidine recall due to contamination with the carcinogent NMDA in the made-in-China medication - with so many meds produced in nations that are not particularly known for high safety standards or cleanliness, there could be additives in products that are not listed on the label, but are potential contaminants.
One thing I did notice in looking at the NAC labeling, says that you can get NAC kidney stones, though they are rare. I would think that would be when NAC is used long-term. I don't recommend NAC for "prevention" of Covid, only as part of treatment, relatively short-term. Many of my patients were already taking NAC at first contact, where I often tend to suggest it later in the course since the first time I read about NAC was in the context of long Covid, though apparently it helps when given earlier. I've never read of it for Covid prevention, and I think it would be when taken daily over a long period of time that there might be some risk of NAC kidney stones.
Anyway, good to be aware of the possibility of the allergic reactions - thanks.
🙏🤗Michelle
I almost died the first time I had Covid in early June of 2021. My lungs had been injured at work by harsh chemicals in a closed environment and someone came to work with a high fever. I ended up on a ventilator for 7 days and ECMO for 11 days. I was in the hospital for 7 weeks because I had two liters of fluid in my thoracic cavity. It took me a year to recover and I still have some minor issues with my lungs, but I can hike and exercise now. I still sometimes feel like I'm not getting a full breath, but I am. My oxygen level is fine. One doctor told me I might be on O2 the rest of my life. The second time I got covid in late June of 2022, the fever broke in two days and I started to feel a lot better after 3 days. I had Ivermectin, NAC, D3, Zinc, HCQ, Nitazoxanide, etc. the second time.
Glad your better Walter_Kowalski… happy hiking 🥾
Sorry for the delayed response.... The app on my phone doesn't always show me comments.... Sometimes I have to go and catch up on the computer. Praise God you survived the ventilator and ECMO! Are you totally off oxygen now? I've found that if I mosely slowly, I can go without it. But if I exert myself (and at night), I still need it. I'm going to try biking again (with a small tank and a pulse-dose regulator) when the weather warms up again.
When you think about it, there is a certain sick humour in the fact that the FDA or its equivalent authority in other places, prohibits the use of a well-tested drug like IVM or HCQ whether in the human form or off-label animal products as "dangerous," yet has no problems giving emergency or even full approval to products like the mRNA jabs or other drugs (e.g. Paxlovid) that have at best a few months' data on safety or efficacy.
FYI,
I and my family were in Israel when all three of us got Omicron and we were taking an exact duplicate of Dr. Zelenko’s formula, including Quercetin, and it did none of us any good in preventing the virus. Disappointing, to say the least.
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The zelenko protocol was not meant for preventing the virus but for taking at onset of infection in order to cure you faster as ivm stops virus replication, is what i understand. Used it end of sep/oct when i contracted covid here (netherlands) and feverfree after two days. Prett6 much cured in a week.
Zelenko DID recommend a prevention protocol from the very beginning. The four necessary supplements (zinc/C/D/Quercetin) and HCQ weekly. You are correct that his treatment protocol was designed to keep patients out of the hospital.
You are right, he did. But the prevention aimed to improve the immune system so as to be able to better ward off infection (imo) not in guaranteeing immunity from infection.
You’re wrong.
The protocol wasn’t to prevent disease, but to bolster the immune system. That’s what it did for us. Omicron was a nothing for me, just a scratchy throat and loss of taste/smell for a week. NO BIG DEAL! My wife has auto-immune issues and was feverish and I’ll for 4 days, but broke out of it. Others like her ended up in hospital or even died. The protocol is a boost, not a cure. And a far better option than those toxic effing clot shots. Stop arguing and take advice. Or, then, go ahead, ignore advice, and take nothing, or get jabbed even. CHOOSE YOUR SIDE!
R.E. thank you for sharing that the Zelenko protocol did not work for you or your family. "we were taking an exact duplicate..." may I clarify that you and your family members had been taking the zelenko protocol for some time, as prevention, and still got sick?
May I also ask if any of you were hospitalized/had trouble breathing or any other details to describe how sick you got?
I and a family member got what I'm sure was Omicron in Jan 2022. We started Ivermectin at FLCCC's recommened dose at the time upon first symptoms, along with zn + Quercetin, C, and a host of other supps that I failed to document. When I spiked a fever on day two I added the Hydroxyc and it started bringing down my fever within hours, completely resolving it overnight. It was contraindicated for the family member and that person's high fever persisted for a week, cycling up & down in respnse to an OTC fever reducer, until a herbalist protocol of unknown herbs finally defeated it in about 24 hrs.
One thing I learned later: zinc, which plays such an important role in blocking viral replication, is dose dependent. Unfortunately, there are many forms of zinc which translate into different element values. It is the elemental value that is used as a guide for dosing but many companies knowingly or unknowingly mislead by providing not the elemental value of their zinc but the untranslated value of the form used. Always check w the company that the value on the label is its elemental value. Reputable companies will state it clearly or readily provide the info.
This is eye-opening, and credibly presented / documented, something that ought to be listened to in it’s entirety.
It was certainly news to me.
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/evidence-of-the-conspiracy-to-commit-mass-murder-by-the-dod-hhs-sasha-latypova/
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EVERYBODY needs to be aware of the info being brought to light by Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt. Both are substack authors.
see the summary of this video (also along the same lines).
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/136964-2/
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The vaccine was never a vaccine. It was a DOD-produced bioweapon. The entire vaccine pantomime was cover for a DOD-run psych-op.
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Quiet slave! No job, groceries or driving for you!
Great summary, and important information!
have you had your Vitamin D levels checked? You might want to consider that. Ideal is to have Vit D 60ng/ml or higher. In the meantime, you might consider 5000 units per day along with 100 or 200 units of Vit K2.
Depends on dose
But it would have been worse without it? (What is good for the goose is good for the gander.)
So, you were taking his TREATMENT protocol? HCQ and/or Ivermectin-Azithromycin-zinc? I don't mean his Z-Stack supplement formula - I mean the TREATMENT protocol. I believe he adds steroids at some point as well, like Dr. McCullough.
The Z-Stack supplements are not the treatment protocol.
Yes, the FLCCC protocols state .4 or .6 mg/kg.
Also, you have to be careful taking constant Quercetin, as a preventive. There are studies coming out that it interferes with thyroid function. Also mentioned at FLCCC.
Interesting. I tried to find this on flccc but it mentioned only the risk of interaction with ivm. Am i overlooking? I take quercetin daily, so am interested to learn of studies that might show prolonged use has adverse effects. Can you provide a link? Jonesy? Is that like Jonesy in Dad’s Army? :-D
Quercetin serves as an ionophore for zinc; Dr. Zelenko, paraphrased: The former is the gun, the latter the bullet. Green tea is another ionophore that I should find preferable. I only take Quercetin when green tea is in short supply.
Using both IVM and Quercetin is the proverbial belt and braces. No wonder this may cause trouble.
You are right. Our dutch self help doctors’ website says the same. I think i wrote earlier in the comments spabout using ivm when ill, but i ised hcq and only on the last day took an ivm pill just to see if i would survive these (china, for dogs), and i did. I dont often drink green tea, but lots of fruit, so i will halve the quercetin. As jonesy suggested, i did look up a few studies on thyroid/quercetin and will err on safer side.
I may have been mistaken about the mention in print at FLCCC. Perhaps I heard it in one of their videos. I know they are now telling people not to take Iver and Q at the same time, because of an interaction. If you just search "quercetin thyroid function" many articles appear with this info.
I have an app't next week with my doc who's part of the FLCCC network. It's one of the things I'll need to talk about.
Regarding my screen name, You obviously don't get the gag - I like horses.
I will do that, look for studies. Haha, no didnt get the gag. Dutch and the jonesy i hear in my head is from these old british series :-|)
interesting, i had thyroid removed bc large growth, turned out negative cancer.
i take synthroid or equal each day.
i take quercetin as well.
i test thyroid fn each year.
in sep 2022 was in middle of range.
proly does not affect metabolism of the synthetic thyroid hormone.
That’s good to know. I’m on Sythroid so when I read that Quercitin wasn’t recommend for those with thyroid problems, I quit.
i take quercetin every day with a 10000 iu vit d, vit c and zinc.
i keep black seed and lacxtoferrin with pseudofed for use if ill.
i had + test for c
c-19 in june.
took a couple of days black seed and lactoferrin....
very mild.
Northern hemisphere in June? It was no coronavirus then.
The medicine is the same; the filler is different (paste vs. pill).
Dose it for a 'horse' of your weight.
Ivermectin is also available in liquid form, which simplifies accurate dosing.
The blogger and podcaster Ann Barnhardt, who used to be in the cattle marketing business, has written extensively about the animal version of Ivermectin. The 1% injectable solution (taken orally by humans) appears to me to be easier to dose than the paste version. One of Ann's friends pointed out that while some so called human versions of Ivermectin might be fake, it is unlikely that the animal versions are fake. Ranchers and farmers would get POed if their Ivermectin that they gave to their livestock did not work.
Unlike the mRNA COVID concoctions, whose ingredients are unknown, the 1% injectable Ivermectin that I looked at has just three ingredients. You can examine the Material Safety Data Sheets for the two inactive ingredients.
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
I have not used the liquid, but can personally vouch for the paste. The fillers/carriers are quite innocuous, and neither my mom nor I have noticed any problems after taking it. She's 86, has taken either the (human) pill form or horse paste every 1-2 weeks as preventative, and has never contracted CV-19. Yes, pills are certainly preferable, but the paste (in my own experience) is perfectly fine, much more accessible, and just as effective. (This is NOT medical advice.)
No wonder it didn't work for me!
I've been taking mud baths in the paste.
JJ.
Do you ever feel like sometimes we're over thinking it? Not just ivermectin, etc., but everything?
Seems a legitimate question to me.
I hope I don't get in trouble for asking that here
You know deep down you are right with whatever you are overthinking but you just don't want to admit to yourself how awful it is that everything is so messed up.
This is what I think it is and I have experience of this from dealing with a toxic bitch of a mother who used to say and do the most awful awful things to me.
Thing is it messes with your brain thinking about how your own family can be so cruel, it is upside down and messed up so you overthink it.
People give it to purebred horses worth hundreds of thousands of dollars
Most governments view humans as worth less than that
Know people taking stuff from the farm store
May not taste great but perhaps even more trustworthy than the stuff from India
More money was given to stranded pets during covid than to business owners.
That's true.
So you're right. The government does not care about you or where you'll get your next meal.
Economy is on borrowed time. I hope everyone knows that.
But the point of lockdowns was to break small businesses so they weren't going to give business owners money that would help them.
Trust me. I know. I own a few businesses.
Saw it coming a mile away.
Funny how most biz owners just ate their shit sandwich without so much as a peep.
Secretariat doesn't get fed bullshit drugs, that's for sure!
Excellent point.
I use a dropper (screwed into the top of my bottle) and fill gel caps.
According to recommended dosage, by bodyweight.
https://solvet.ca/ivermectin-liquid-calculator/
No taste at all.
I've gone to vetrinary when I can get it. Crazy thing is that they will charge me out the waz to buy deworming meds for cats and dogs, but all I have to do is buy stuff packaged for horses and dose it properly. Crazy. And I know it is OK for dogs and cats and chickens because DAMN one of the things I learned this term in the country is how effing fragile horses are. If a horse can tolerate it, well you could well scale the dose down and feed it to a child...horses are delicate and one could do worse than use them for 'guinea pigs' (In a manner of speaking of course. I love the buttheads).
A lot of my prescriptions sent to me from the VA are made in India.
Be careful with the dose.
I have had four successful orders from all day chemist in India of IVM - no problem. Took about three weeks to get to the US
In TN, it's supposed to be over the counter. I called a compounding pharmacy and they said I could just come in and get it. Maybe they can't ship out of state? IDK
Here's a compounding pharmacy in TN that will ship an online order:
https://medicine-counter01.business.site/#posts
I live in the south and we get it through a mail order pharmacy in New Jersey. The doctor that prescribed it is one of not many here that will prescribe IV.
That's the beauty of TN ~ no prescription required.
perhaps it would be good to consult an equine doctor. There are plenty in Virginia. I do not know how that will go really.
ALLDAYCHEMIST is batting 1000 with me. 11 orders fulfilled out of 11 orders. They have thousands of online reviews. I know, this is an anonymous internet recommendation, but give it a shot!
Mine got stopped at the border twice. Never received any. I live in Canada
That Canada’s Customs agencies are so concentrated on such a widely used, virtually harmless therapeutic, is not only grotesque, it takes their focus from policing truly threatening items.... fentanyl? A Bomb? What a joke.
Bummer Jen but good to know.
Try getting it from this company or vet. If you own a horse... 😉
https://solvet.ca/products/ivermectin-liquid-for-horses/
Oh I have the horse paste 😁. It’s the people pills I can’t get.
Have the horse liquid.
Cannot get the human pills in Canada too.
Valley Vet (online) carries the paste, too.
I also ordered from them twice. Satisfied customer.
Used a check which took longer.
If you use a payment app it is much faster.
What brand of IVM did they send you?
The 12 mg tablets are “Imrotab 12”. The 6 mg tablets I believe are “Iverheal 6”. But I’m not positive on the 6s since they’re not near me right now. But, they usually offer several different brands ( I can’t tell the difference)
Think you might find the following about IVM interesting.
https://doyourownresearch.substack.com/p/not-all-ivermectin-is-created-equal
Helpful!!! My 6 mg is from Austro. I’m relieved! No worms in me!
I got Ivervid and my friend used it and it worked well. Hopefully the same from batch to batch.
I second alldaychemist. I got HCQ from them. They have IVM for about a dollar a pill, in doses of 3, 6, or 12 mg if I recall correctly. My HCQ order also took about 3 weeks.
what is the hydroxychloroquine do? I have several of those pills. I was taking them for RA but they do not help at all
All Day Chemist asks for a prescription - just leave it blank - they do not care.
Don't hesitate: whether equine or human Ivermectin, it's the same drug.
Been taking, and "loaning" my Ivermectin manufactured by this solid Canadian company.
Quite a good supply was given to me by a good Samaritan and I've paid it forward to 2 vaxxed Family members who recently had Covid.
https://solvet.ca/products/ivermectin-liquid-for-horses/
Works great.
You are much better off getting the human form in a prescription calculated for your body weight at 0.5 mg. per kg. I have posted something on this tonight and will be posting more on New Years Eve or New Years Day. I am a healthcare professional. Unfortunately the doses for parasites for animals are not proportional to the human dose for Covid, and the way they are labeled, in my experience makes it quite difficult to figure out how to dose it correctly for humans. I had one whole family who had gotten the Ivermectin for injection for cattle, and the mother was dosing the whole family with a little medicine dropper from the solution - the husband did have some Ivermectin tablets but at the time, we had difficulty obtaining the quantity needed, and the wife continued giving him and others in the family the drops of veterinary Ivermectin - it took the longest time for them to recover from Covid, though no one had to go to hospital, but it turned out, I was able to learn that she was using the wrong dose entirely - it was labeled to give so much per pound for cattle, but the dose for humans was vastly different. I had told her that the medial board would not allow me to recommend a veterinary product for people, but obviously since she had gotten it, she could take it, but I was not able to advise her on it. The vial she had did not say how many milligrams of Ivermectin was in each milliliter, and unless you know the number of milligrams you can't calculate the dose correctly. I wrote a post earlier tonight on how to find a telemed doctor who can prescribe Ivermectin, and how to find a pharmacy that will sell it. At FLCCC.net I will be posting here, more over the weekend. But - FLCCC.net has lists of doctors and pharmacies for the US mainly. Are you in US, or Australia?
https://solvet.ca/products/ivermectin-liquid-for-horses/
With a calculator.
Worked for me, and my loved ones.
Yup, same here. Solvet liquid is a great product. The enclosed instructions tell you how much ivermectin is in each ml of solution and the box contains the appropriate size syringe, so accurate dosing by weight is a cinch for anyone with a $5 Chinese calculator.
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As long as the dosage is weight appropriate, if it doesn't kill a horse, it won't kill you. Think about it, most medicines are first tested on animals. I have had dogs and cats over the last 30 years, they get the same drugs we do. Sometimes, if the vet is out of a drug, I get a prescription filled at the pharmacy. The important factor is to measure medicine according to weight. I have yet to have a medicine prescribed for one of my dogs, or cats, which is not also prescribed for people.
I have given Ivermectin to my horses for 20+ years and it's even safe to *double* dose horses for a certain neck threadworm. Horses have the most fragile digestive system and I feel certain if they can tolerate IVM even at double dosages then humans should not have a problem unless allergic or some other issue.
Just don’t feed your dog xylitol
Or gremlins after midnight
I know a guy who passed a kidney stone after taking lasix from the farm supply store.
Here in USA, the "horse paste" form is readily available. I can honestly say that I've not yet taken any (my 1st case of Covid-19 last summer was mild.) And as a disclaimer, I by no means recommend using such a product except for the labeled uses.
A quick bit of advice: if you are self medicating, with whatever product, it really shouldn't be that hard to figure out the "right" dosage. What source to rely upon to get that information, I leave up to you. Most products are labelled as to how much active drug it contains. It is up to you with (I assume) a calculator, to figure your correct dose. In fact, it' possible with pencil and paper too. You only need basic math skills. If you don't feel capable of doing so, then you're best avoiding pretending to be doctor and you are probably better off just going to the regular doctor.
I don't know how other nation are, but the product warnings are grotesquely humorous. Here are some quotes from the "horse paste" product:
"Not for use in humans." OK, that's probably pretty standard. Different manufacturing quality control and all that. Probably some truth to it. But, given some of the horror stories about human products (e.g. the "vaccines") I wouldn't lose much sleep over whatever QC differences there may be between animal and human medications.
"...specifically formulated for use in horses only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result." I looked that up and again, strictly speaking, it's true. It's all about the dose folks. Yes, if a human took a horse sized dose, that's asking for trouble, although it's my understanding that ivermectin has low toxicity. The dog warning is true, but only for select breeds. As with humans, ivermectin is used in dog products too. The FDA would apparently have us believe that harms are only possible when using a horse med off-label, but that it couldn't possibly happen when using the dog or human products.
"Environmental safety" -- disposal warnings and risk of contamination including "excreted residues" may be harmful to aquatic life. Again, perhaps true. But the tube of horse paste contains a whopping 113 mg of pure Ivermectin. Just how toxic can it be in small quantities? Is Farmer Brown liable for environmental damage when his mare urinates in the field, potentially contaminating groundwater?
The above are examples of government mandated warnings that have a grain of truth, but our nanny-state governments have blown them so far out of proportion that now they are mangled caricatures of what they would be in an optimal world: guides for common sense. As with many well intended (?) policies, it's likely that such hyperbole will have the adverse effect, that in general people will ignore the warnings since they've become accustomed to most of them being irrelevant.
All good points. Id rather take ivermecting manifuctured for humans. Unless, Doorless Carp says it is ok to use horse paste.
Follow your own instincts, Bibi, but I want to assure you that (at least in my family's experience) the vet horse paste is perfectly fine. My mom (86) has been on it preventively (low dose every week or 2) for about two years -- no side effects, NO Covid. I got Delta last year, but only AFTER becoming complacent and failing to take the same preventive doses. Note: Though treatment doses are .3 or .4 mg/kg daily, the standard/preventive dose (.2 mg/kg) doesn't need to be high or frequent, because the substance apparently wipes out (or stops replication) of the bug before there is enough of it to require higher concentrations. While Covid is still circulating commonly, I strongly suggest that people consider bi-weekly doses of IVM as a prophylactic. See Dr. Lenny DaCosta's testimony here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bsvK95i6njvd/
I got a tube of paste from an animal supply store. I started small and rubbed it on the bottom feet, put socks on cuz it is a tad greasy. I put a dab on my wrist, inside my elbows and on the back of my knees. I am still alive and didn't get Covid.
I wouldn't ingest it.
interesting
I've taken a little horse paste no less than once monthly for over a year. It's great. Haven't been sick once.
Ann Bernhardt has an excellent summary, including calculating dosages: https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
Hi Bibi, please find a link here citing Dr. Sladoljev Srecko (Croatian immunologist) about Ivermectin, it is in Croatian but you can translate it easily: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4830682716961962&set=pb.100000608438100.-2207520000.&type=3
He is censored massively, but keeps fighting for bringing out the truth.
-> Sladoljev Srećko: "A colleague sent me precise instructions for dosing liquid Ivermectin (10mg/1ml)"
0.2mg / kg telesne tezine
50kg --> 10mg = 1.0ml
60kg --> 12mg = 1.2ml
70kg --> 14mg = 1.4ml
80kg --> 16mg = 1.6ml
90kg --> 18mg = 1.8ml
100kg > 20mg = 2.0ml
110kg > 22mg = 2.2ml
120kg > 24mg = 2.4ml
130kg > 26mg = 2.6ml
140kg > 28mg = 2.8ml
150kg > 30mg = 3.0ml
0.3mg / kg telesne tezine
50kg --> 15mg = 1.5ml
60kg --> 18mg = 1.8ml
70kg --> 21mg = 2.1ml
80kg --> 24mg = 2.4ml
90kg --> 27mg = 2.7ml
100kg > 30mg = 3.0ml
110kg > 33mg = 3.3ml
120kg > 36mg = 3.6ml
130kg > 39mg = 3.9ml
140kg > 42mg = 4.2ml
150kg > 45mg = 4.5ml
0.4mg / kg telesne tezine
50kg --> 20mg = 2.0ml
60kg --> 24mg = 2.4ml
70kg --> 28mg = 2.8ml
80kg --> 32mg = 3.2ml
90kg --> 36mg = 3.6ml
100kg > 40mg = 4.0ml
110kg > 44mg = 4.4ml
120kg > 48mg = 4.8ml
130kg > 52mg = 5.2ml
140kg > 56mg = 5.6ml
150kg > 60mg = 6.0ml
0.5mg / kg telesne tezine
50kg --> 25mg = 2.5ml
60kg --> 30mg = 3.0ml
70kg --> 35mg = 3.5ml
80kg --> 40mg = 4.0ml
90kg --> 45mg = 4.5ml
100kg > 50mg = 5.0ml
110kg > 55mg = 5.5ml
120kg > 60mg = 6.0ml
130kg > 65mg = 6.5ml
140kg > 70mg = 7.0ml
150kg > 75mg = 7.5ml
0.6mg / kg telesne tezine
50kg --> 30mg = 3.0ml
60kg --> 36mg = 3.6ml
70kg --> 42mg = 4.2ml
80kg --> 48mg = 4.8ml
90kg --> 54mg = 5.4ml
100kg > 60mg = 6.0ml
110kg > 66mg = 6.6ml
120kg > 72mg = 7.2ml
130kg > 78mg = 7.8ml
140kg > 84mg = 8.4ml
150kg > 90mg = 9.0ml
It is identical. All the meds get their IVM from a handful of manufacturers. All my friends and family got the 1% sterile IVM prep for animals and it worked fine with no problems. Just syringe out the correct dose and put it in water to drink with food. The solution it is in is safe for humans. You can also use the IVM horse paste - all the ingredients in there are also safe. My friend who did all these nutritional things for her covid still got very ill and had to get IVM to knock it out - I wouldn't want to take the chance and go thru covid without it.
I used horse paste version with absolutely no problems. You learn how to dose it (the dose is about the size of a pencil eraser) based on 50 lb notches on the dispenser. Three notches for me. Mixed it with applesauce, and it worked like a charm (along with quercitin, melatonin, NAC, vit D, vit C, and zinc)
Well, keep in mind that for humans for Covid, the recommended dose is now 0.4 mg. per kg. unless it is severe and then you go to 0.6 mg. per kg of body weight. You convert your own weight to kilograms, and then multiply times either 0.4 or 0.6, and that is the number of milligrams you need. Your dose is NOT going to be proportional to what cattle need for parasites. Another person posted - which I just now read - that she understood the horse paste, which she used, led her to end up with a dose that was 0.2 mg. per kg, going by the horse instructions, which was not a strong enough dose for her and she became very ill and had lung damage - which may not have occurred if she had known to take a stronger dose. Basically just because a "50 pound" marker shows what a 50 pound animal should have - doesn't give you the number of milligrams you need. So, the risk of underdosing is a problem for people who use the veterinary form. From what I can understand of what the other poster had said, I think if she had doubled her dose she may have avoided the severe illness and lung damage, though I would not say for sure because I do not have horse paste in my hand to look at the label and see whether I could truly calculate a human dose from it. The only way I know how to dose humans is to know their weight, convert to kilograms, and then multiply x 0.4 to get 0.4 mg. per kg - and write a prescription for a compounded prescription from a compounding pharmacy. On the other hand if you are in a country where it is impossible to get the human form of Ivermectin, I can understand people using the veterinary products, But I have known people who badly underdosed themselves by miscalculating. I have known multiple families who had gotten the liquid form of Ivermectin that is "for injection" for cattle - and it doesn't say anywhere on the bottle how many milligrams are in it - it just says for a cow of such and weight, give so much of the liquid. But it led to a the people involved receiveing perhaps only a tenth of what they should have had. I tried to explain this on another substack and was criticized by others who thought I was an idiot to give this caution because basically anyone can do the math and figure the correct dose, but I now know for a fact that least some of the solutions for injection - which the people I know took by mouth using a medicine dropper - were not labeled properly for them to be able to calculate a human dose - because the number of milligrams were not given. I was later able to see a photo of the labeled bottle, do some searching online to get the additional info needed - and when I calculated it out, they had hugely underdosed themeselves which is why they had taken weeks and weeks of misery to get well from Covid. Everyone knows that some people do use the horse paste, and some people feel it was helpful - and it may be, but I truly think that when it is possible to get the human form that is the way to do it. As a health professional, I do not recommend the veterinary forms even semi-anonymously due in part to concern I could be discovered by medical board and it would likely not be forgiven, but honestly, the labeling of this products is NOT designed to make it easy for humans to calculate their own dose for Covid - it may say so much for an animal of this size, but what horses or cows or cats take for parasites is NOT going to be identical or proportional to what you may need for Covid. To help find an actual medical doctor who prescibes Covid meds including Ivermectin this link can help you: https://covid19criticalcare.com/providers/ There is a way to search for US doctors, which is most of them (also nurse practioners and physician assistants) but also a place to click for international, and I'm sure they don't have every country but they do have doctors in some countries outside U.S. WIthin US they have a listing of prescribers who are licensed in multiple states and some who are licensed in all states, who do telemed, and then also there listings by state for doctors in your state who treat Covid. The same website also has a tab for "resources" that lists pharmacies where you can obtain Covid meds including Ivermectin but I don't know if they list for other countries, and I get that in some countries you have zero access to Ivermectin, and of course in that case, people will do what they feel they must do to take care of themselves. Besides Ivermectin there are many other meds that can help, and many non-prescription supplements that are surprisingly helpful. I am planning to post on some of these over the weekend. In some cases, I have had to treat patients who had several risk factors and moderately severe illness where I could not access Ivermectin but nonetheless, they recovered without hospitalization and without complications - but - Ivermectin is usually extremely helpful, and I can't fault anyone for using it out of desperation, only the risk is, you may not take enough to do you the good that it could do. Because they do not provide information on human dosing on a veterinary product. I see you used Quercetin, melatonin, NAC, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, and zinc. All of those things are very helpful for Covid. With Quercetin, Dr. David Moskowitz published on this, and he was getting people well using Quercetin 500 mg. two capsules twice a day - normally that is very, very safe, and he has seen excellent efficacy and apparently he has used it from the beginning without needing Ivermectin - and the main caution is, anyone on Coumadin (a blood thinner) should not take it as it may affect the Coumadin level and cause a serious problem. Other than that, there are no medication interactions I would worry about except it is said there may be a minor interaction between Quercetin and Ivermectin in that one can increase the levels of the other. I don't really think of that as a problem, but some say, just don't take Quercetin and Ivermectin at the same time - for example, take Quercetin in the morning, and then take Ivermectin after lunch, and then because they are separated by several hours, you avoid the problem. But my thought is, if one is on Ivermectin 0.4 mg. per kg but the max recommended for Covid is 0.6 mg. per kg - if the level was increased a bit, you are probably still within the recommended range. It is also believed that Ivermectin is very safe even at higher levels than what you would acheive from 0.6 mg. per kg dose - so I don't believe it is anything to worry about, and I have never seen problems taking both. Quercetin has to be twice a day because it does wear off during the day, so to get the full benefit it is twice a day. Ivermectin is normally given just one time of day, but it does need to be given after a meal, otherwise the levels are too low - you absorb it better and achieve higher blood levels if the food and digestive enzymes are there, so food first and then right away, Ivermectin. And to be cautious, just take Quercetin at a different time, first thing in a..m. and again at bedtime, for example or evening.
Dosing is really not a problem; .4mg/kg is twice the horse dose, so you just double your weight, and count the notches. I must add that a PREVENTATIVE dose of .2mg/kg every two weeks has kept my mom (86) Covid-free since the start, so IMHO people should seriously consider that tactic. Results in India described here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bsvK95i6njvd/
Preventive dose is ideally at least once a week. In Argentina, there was a study in which healthcare professionals caring for Covid patients had a choice of no med vs. Ivermectin 0.2 mg/kg. The ones with no med - 58% got Covid. The ones in Ivermectin group, zero got Covid. There have been other studies - once a month didn't work out too well, somebody wondered if taking Ivermectin every two weeks would do the job - the results were in between what was seen for 0.2 mg. / kg once a week vs every 4 weeks. In the every 2 week study, when you looked at cmparison on no meds, it was better than doing nothing at all, but not as good as the once a week group. If you really want to be sure you don't get Covid once a week was the best - until - one of the new variants came out, multipled faster, and got ahead of the once a week dosing. Dr. Pierre Kory was on Ivermectin once a week and got Covid anyway - considering the delta variant, it was decided that twice a week at 0.2 mg. / kg might be better, and that is what the FLCCC doctors started recommending and what I would tell people. If they want to prevent, twice a week. Well, now after Omicron, the FLCCC physicians changed the recommendation again to once a week if you are in a risk group - but so many are. If you are overweight or if you are low in Vitamin D which many are, you are at increased risk even if you are not 80 years old. Anyway, I am in favor of anyone preventing who wants to, and not only with Ivermectin, but I have been telling people, twice a week since delta and I didn't cut back to once a week. There keep being new variants, if you want to be sure, take Ivermectin twice a week and that is likely to be fine. With the original Covid, once a week did very well but since then - twice a week makes sense to me.
But another thing you can do that does make a big difference - I would not rely on this alone - but there is research showing that you can get an antiseptic mouthwash - I remember one of hte ones that was studied was Kool Mint Listerine, probably any of the Listerine flavors would be the same antiseptic, also Crest and Scope mouthwashes were studied, and then more recently there has been study of a mouthwash containing Xylitol, which is Spry brand. What you do, gargle with the mouthwash for about one minute before you go to work or go wherever you are going. For the next 4 to 6 hours, if you breathe in some virus from someone you do not know is sick - maybe this is the day they are about to turn positive and they don't know it yet, or they have sniffles and think it is allergy but really it's Covid etc. - if you breathe in the virus, it goes through nasal passages and down your throat, and some viruses may stay in the region - which is why when you test for Covid, they are checking the nasal area, and also some of the research afterward, to see how long do people shed virus, they measure in the throat. So anyway, what if you have some antispectic from the mouthwash lingering in your throat waiting to meet the virus where it lands? If you gargle every four hours through the day, you will be protected the whole time. If you have gone a little past 4 hours, it's wearing off, maybe there is a bit of virus trying to get started - then you gargle, it's probably gone. Anyway they had great results with mouthwash. In addition, you can do one of several things for the nose. You can take the same mouthwash and put it on a Q tip and swab the inside of the nose, or there are articles about how you can mix up an iodine solution which I think is too much trouble to explain and teach, but you can search to find that, but it's messy, OR you can buy a nasal spray containing Xylitol, the brand name is Xlear and it is available on Amazon. I am aware that some of the best doctors who treat outpatient Covid have started using the Xylitol mouthwash (Spry) plus the Xylitol nasal spray (Xlear) while treating patients and they are treating Covid patients and this seems to be helping. But there is published research that shows it reduces the risk. I would not say to quit Ivermectin in favor of only mouthwash / nasal spray, but if you can't get Ivermectin, this actually is beneficial. Apparently this is what the dentists have been doing all through the pandemic, and it is in expensive and doesn't need a prescription. So I have bought Xylitol mouthwash. I think the nasal spray is a good idea, but I'm mostly working from home, and I have other forms of prevention that have worked fine through the pandemic, so I have not tried the nasal spray.
About dosing veterinary Ivermectin. Probably in the US all the horse paste is required to be labeled the same way, but there are other veterinary forms. There is one form of a liquid that is sprayed on like an insect repellant and has additional ingredients, so it is only for external use, AND the liquid for injection is not labeled in a way where you can calculate it just from the package - and it is NOT the same as the horse paste, it is actually weaker. Could be that since you are injecting it and it's byapssing the digestive system, it does not need to be as strong because it is a more effective method - or different animal, different dosing. But Not all forms of veterinary Ivermectin are going to be easy to figure the dose, and the one liquid is ONLY for external use and should not be used for Covid. If you are sure your horse paste works out like that, good, I have not used or recommended horse paste, have not seen the labeling, so I couldn't say, but good if it works that way and you know to double it. Since the current dosing for humans is not on the package, people would have to know to double the weight if that does give the correct dose. I can't click on the link while I have this comment box in progress, but I will look at it later. I get the human form myself and that is what I prescribe, but it would good to learn everything possible - ah, I see results in India is what the link is - the results in India were amazing, and they mostly use the 12 mg. tablets there but their people tend to be smaller than us, so it worked out. The first time I used Ivermectin, I had gone to the CDC website and looked up Ivermectin, they of course said "Very dangerous, do not use for humans" (paraphrased) so I had hesitated, but then I saw the results in India, and to figure out the correct dose, I looked at the "Covid kits" India was giving out - a zip lock baggie with meds including three 12mg Ivermectin tablets, so with my first two Ivermectin patients, an elderly couple who were quite sick with Covid and not getting better, I gave them each a 12 mg. dose for three days, and they started improving greatly within 24 hours. Later, I learned that it's not truly one-size-fits-all, and you calculate the dose by weight. I had underdosed them, and they had a number of risk factors and were severe enough they really were sick enough to have been admitted, but their primary doctor had already just told them they were well enough to stay home - so I thought I would try, and they did respond quickly to even that 12 mg. dose.
If you are not vaccinated your natural immunity with c ..zinc and quercetin should be enough. As you know in Canberra very few have got really unwell who were not sick with other illness before. This new wave will probs hit us in winter. Prevention is way to handle it. You notice in Canberra people coughing in shopping centres (some may never clear it) and we had one of highest Vax rates?
It’s almost as if the jabs have negative efficacy while simultaneously debilitating the immune system
Do not forget Vitamin D 1000-5000 IU
The higher levels of vitamin D should be taken with vitamin K2. D can increase the amount of Calcium in the blood and Vitamin K2 will help the bones absorb it. Calcium in the walls of the arteries can cause hardening. One can buy Vitamin D with K2 in one capsule.
Hope I’m not overstepping since I se that a healthcare professional has already answered your question. As far as I can see, the active ingredient in the human and veterinary forms are the exact same substance. There are some additives in the veterinary form that I could live without but I have used both for the past 2 1/2 years. They both work well. For me, they have been a miracle since I always develop a long-term cough with viral infections. Not any more! Just be sure to take enough, this makes a big difference. I always take at least 0.4 mgs per kg these days. Best of luck!
Antedotally I heard ivm absorbs topically as well. 1tsp and you smell like apples. Apply to Thin skin area like inner thigh or neck. Go slow just in case but if sick I would look up the Flccc protocol.
you can order from India
Make sure it's straight vitamin eye, with no other ingredients. 1.87%
Quercetin is an alternative to iver. If they ban it, you can make it yourself from grapefruit &/or orange peels. Recipes on line; really just a strong infusion, then add a sweetener. Also kale is high in it.
Safe & healthy as a preventive, too.
Take with zinc; it helps upload the zinc into cells.
Hi Saving,
Love your user name BTW
I made my own quercitin Ice cubes earlier this year.
Put the orange and lemon peels (used organic citrus) in a crock pot/slow cooker over night with some water in it
Drained and put into ice cube trays and then eventually into a baggie for later use
I would drop into hot water to make a tea
But wow bitter! Used a few drops of honey.
Did take with zinc or just had a TBone steak that night
There are a bunch of great videos out there on how to make it. It’s pretty simple
*also make my own bone broths in the crock. Freeze and have as a morning beverage all winter
Happy new year~
Thanks I know I have been taking Zev protocols. But Ivermectin is included in protocol just NOT at the same time. 12h difference
Fwiw, Frontline doctors no longer recommends ivermectin as a preventive. (They used to say iver or quercetin; now its quercetin or reservatrol, etc).
Sorry you can't get it in Australia. I got dog/cat pills early on, before customs started stealing it here in the US.
Anyway, here is the link to frontline. They offer protocols for all different situations, from prevention to treatment.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-prevent-protect/
Buy horse paste - you can get it from Amazon - it is the cheapest way to go - I take it every day (Tractor Supply is where I get it usually because it is cheap there)
Love Tractor Supply!!!
Yup... we love it too... we are heading over there in a couple hours with our new Cane Corso puppy... let her pick out a toy and maybe a treat... fun stuff.
Hey, Lawrence, how are you doing? I love your newsletter! I'm in Switzerland so I'm not sure I can get it via horse supply shops. It's dead cheap from India. Don't let the b****rds get you down in 2023!
If someone here is Canadian or has access to a vet: this Ivermectin is awesome.
https://solvet.ca/products/ivermectin-liquid-for-horses/
I know that Tractor Supply compsny as well, but... Canada.
Also try "Buckerfields".
Talking about the ivermectin for horses😬
How do you use it? As a crème on your body or invest it?
Ingest
I have ordered twice from Buyivermectin24.com. I also got Hydroxychloroquine from them and keep a supply of that. It comes from India and I have been using it as a prophylactic. So far so good. Go to the FLCCC site for good recommendations on Covid prevention and treatment.
Early on my GP told me that he was prescribing ivermectin with good results. I wanted a prescription before a trip to the Dominican Republic. He told me he could no longer prescribe it because a major health insurer threatened reporting him to the medical board if he continued to prescribe it.
Can you tell me about how much and how long it took to get?
It took about 3 weeks. The price was good and the packaging was excellent with each pill in its own section of the strips. I got 300 12mg tablets of ivermectin and 60 250mg tablets of azithromycin delivered for $244.80. There are discounts and free delivery based on volume.
I take 18mg of ivermectin once a week. I weigh 200 lbs and that is the dose recommended. Along with the ivermectin, I take Vitamin D, zinc, Vitamin C, quercetin and black seed oil. Go to the covid19criticalcare website and read the protocols for detailed recommendations.
Did they require a prescription?
Good to know. Thank so much!
Wormwood.( Artemisia) Tincture. Compound of Ivermectin.Healthfood Stores or order online. We take it. Works.
That's really interesting. I don't know if you know the Book of Revelation? Wormwood is mentioned as the name of an asteroid that will hit the Earth during this period. Apparently we are due a 'near miss' (Don't Look Up) in Apr 2029 of an asteroid called Apophis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
Yes I do know. Thank for reminding me.
Yes I bought that when someone gave that tip a year ago. I bought Super Artemisinin - 200 mg - 60 VCaps. Do you know the dosage?
20 drops in juice.. One to 3 times daily. I use the liquid. The capsule probably has mag sterate. Which actually defeats the purpose. I take 2 times weekly for prevention. Only I take in lemon water. Good luck.
Thank you, i will look for the liquid stuff then.
Tastes kinda crappy. Use a straw to get it down.
Try a veternarian...or animal husbandry store. Tell em yer hors iss sic.
That's another option. But do I have to produce a horse to get it? :)
Exactly.
https://solvet.ca/products/ivermectin-liquid-for-horses/
TGA banned ivermectin imports to Aus. It's being confiscated by customs. You cannot get it here.
I am going to post something about Quercetin tomorrow or the next day, hopefully tomorrow (New Years Eve or New Years Day), it is after 3 a.m. here and I'm too tired at the moment. But Querceint has been used successfully as a main treatment by Dr. David Moskowitz who published on this in 2020. He used 500 mg. two capsules twice a day, and I strongly urge zinc along with it 50 mg. twice a day. Quercetin is a natural supplement and not prescription, comes from apples and various fruits and vegetables. A lot of doctors who treat Covid recommend Quercetin as part of the mix, along with other things, like, in addition to Ivermectin, but Quercetin without Ivermectin has been effective according to Dr. Moskowitz, and I had contacted him a few times to inquire if it is still working, he says yes, he still uses it successfully even since the variants. So I suggest that for one thing. I am a prescriber, a health care professional, and I do treat Covid - hopefully this is something you can access there. Other nonprescription items, Vitamin D makes more difference than you would think, I had written a long post tonight and then got an automated message it was too long and I needed to cut, so I'm too tired to re-organize what I said, but I will - but anyway, Black Cumin otherwise known as Black Seed, from the nigella sativa plant has been used for some thousands of years in Asia / Middle East, and there was an excellent piece of research showing this is effective for Covid, and perhaps even moreso than Ivermectin, though I have been relying on Ivermectin much more than the "Black Seed." On the other hand, because it is non-prescription, I also bought up a supply of "Black Seed" capsules which I have been able to share with family. I am not permitted to treat family members and particularly in other states, but there is no law against sharing non-prescription supplements with an ill family member. Look for my posts over the weekend. I am breaking up a long one into several smaller ones and perhaps some will be helpful. Quercetin, Black Seed, Vitamin D, zinc, and NAC (n-acetylcysteine), if you can get most of these and take them -there are prevention doses and treatment doses - hopefully you can access all of these in Australia. And none of these should require prescriptions. If you look at FLCCC.net and check their prevention protocol and their early outpatient treatment protocol you may get additional ideas. Melatonin at bedtime is good - not just for sleep but because it is in every cell in your body and Covid wipes it out - and one aspirin tablet daily which helps to get rid of spike protein, unless you are allergic to aspirin or on Coumadin or blood thinners or just can't take it for some reason. Aspirin one tablet a day, not for prevention, but for if you get Covid, one aspirin daily after eating a meal, and continue for month, same with NAC, continue for a while after Covid as it cleans up toxins etc. My first Covid patient was a homeless person with multiple risk factors, and I didn't know anything about Ivermectin at that time, and hydroxychloroquine was illegal in my state for Covid, so I had to use other things - I did give her a couple of prescriptions, but kept her out of the hospital without any Ivermectin or HCQ, and she did quite well. I gave her Doxycyline, an antibiotic with antiviral effects, zinc 50 mg. twice a day, colchicine which is a med for gout, but because of its anti-inflammatory effects it also helps Covid. So I did give prescriptions, but there are things that work other than only Ivermectin or HCQ though I appreciate how wonderfully both of these work, and I would want Ivermectin for myself and any patients, having seen it time and again. HCQ is also excellent, but where I am, it can only be used if a person has one of the approved conditions such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, or for travel to an area where there is malaria. But I do have patients who have had approved conditions who have been protected from Covid as a "side effect," and patients who were off their HCQ but who have an approved condition who went back on HCQ for prevention or treatment of Covid with good results. But I don't have a lot of experience with HCQ because of the restrictions here. Anyway - good night and I will be posting more over the weekend. Don't feel hopeless if you can't get Ivermectin, and I understand about Australia. In the US, anyone should be able to get Ivermectin but for anyone who can't obtain it, there are things that work.
I've been making native sarsaparilla (Smilax glyciphylla) tea, which is a strong golden colour from all the natural quercetin. Quercetin is generally high in fruits which are yellow: lemon/grapefruit peel, yellow capsicum, ripe mango, golden delicious apples, and also capers (which are not particularly yellow)
I believe onions are high in Quercetin.
I have noticed that Dr. M no longer seems to tweet about Quercetin and I was wondering if he still recommends it. Did you discuss it with him recently? I found his track record to be impressive.
I never followed Dr. Moskowitz on twitter, so I don't know about his tweets, but when I first read his article about Quercetin, I emailed him actually through Researchgate, and he answered all my questions, and I looked up articles about Quercetin, and my husband and I, and our daughter, all started using it for prevention - he had told me he and his med students and residents were all taking 500 mg. one twice a day for prevention; he said they were treating Covid patients and none of them got Covid, so he was also recommending that to his patients. Then he was treating patients with 500 mg. two capsules twice a day. So that is how I have done it even though I have noticed some of the other doctors who publish are using lesser doses of Quercetin. But he said nobody was having any side effects or difficulty at those doses and it seemed to work, and that is my experience. But then I recontacted him, probably within the past couple months, so, many variants later, and he said it is still working, still has not had problems with it, no side effects to worry about that he has seen, and again, it's on that list from the FDA for "Generally Recognized as Safe" - though as I think I mentioned, I would not give it to anyone on the blood thinner Coumadin because it is necessary to have the Coumadin levels exactly right, and there is a reason that Quercetin might affect the Coumadin levels. But overall, still working, still safe. I didn't read about Coumadin being an issue and he didn't say, but there is a reason I would not recommend it. But he said he is still using the same doses, except sometimes for treatment he just uses 500 mg one twice a day, and then increasing if necessary. He says it is working great for treatment and he thinks it may not be necessary to go as high with the dose as what he had originally used. I usually go with the original doses, though. A lot of people come to me later, after their regular primary doctor did not do anything useful for them, and by the time they get to me, it's a bit later in the course and maybe a bit more severe, and I don't want to monkey around with a lower dose, I have stuck with his original dose, but usually I can access Ivermectin for my patients, so I can't say for sure - is Quercetin really making a difference? Because there is a lot of data on Ivermectin indicating it works, and I've seen that in my patients, so if we also using Quercetin, I don't know for sure if Quercetin is adding benefit or not. But Dr. M. originally used this as a sole treatment and it worked, before anyone was talking about Ivermectin. And my husband and I originally used this as our prevention before I had ever heard of Ivermectin. But he's been using it as a main treatment and main prevention - he was a little less confident more recently about prevention, and I didn't really press him on that - but I'm thinking, if it works for treatment, why would not also help with prevention. Anyway, I think when people do not have access to Ivermectin or lack of access due to cost, Quercetin is a good one to use since you don't need a prescription for it. The biggest drawback I've seen in using it is that none of our local health food stores or pharmacies carry it locally, so you have to order it through Amazon or some other online store and if you need it today, you don't need to order it and have it arrive a week or 10 days later. Plus the cost has gone up some but it is still relatively affordable. But because I have not seen it locally here, I don't always tell my patients about it actually. I am more likely to give them Ivermectin if we can get it, and then IF they have Quercetin or can get it, I recommend it as an add-on. Where Dr. M. has used it first, and as a main treatment and prevention. Oh, but there are several reasons why I am certain it will continue to work. 1) Quercetin is an anti-inflammatory, and Covid is an inflammatory illness, so it is going to help some. 2) Quercetin, I understand, is also an anti-oxidant, and with Covid, you need anti-oxidants to protect from damage that would otherwise occur. [So #1 and #2 are not really directly trying to kill off the virus, but helping to control the illness itself. The virus is there, but it helps to calm the inflammation in your body, and acting at the molecular level to stop tissue damage. But, #3 - Quercetin is said to be an ionophore which opens the gates in your cells to let zinc get into your cells. Zinc has been shown to hinder replication of the Covid virus in your cells, and actually zinc stops something like 17 different viruses that we know of. So, you want to take zinc 30 to maybe up to 50 mg. a day during "prevention" but for treatment, if you have Covid, you take 50 mg. of zinc twice a day. And Quercetin helps zinc to get into your cells so zinc can do its job. For these reasons, I think no matter what the variant, Quercetin will be helpful though you want to take it with zinc and you probably want to ideally use a mix of things anyway and not rely on Q. solely. But it's not like the virus might get reistant to it or something, because it's action is not to kill the virus directly, just to do what it naturally does in our bodies. And yes, I think Dr. Moskowitz is amazing. I got off twitter a while back for several reasons, but now that McCulough and others are back on, I am on twitter again, so I should follow Dr. M. and read his old tweets. Well, and very nice that Igor is back on twitter also. I like the new management there. :-)
Just a note: Zinc in doses over 40 mg per day will deplete copper, so that ought to be supplemented in parallel. Then again, perhaps just a few days of excess zinc intake does not have a substantial impact on the copper levels.
Thanks so much for that very useful and comprehensive response. Your posts are front line boots on the ground information-very important to people like myself that don't have any close reliable contacts in the medical community.
Yep, that's what they did to my shipment. Someday I want to see these evil creatures pay for their crimes.
If you can get Isoprinosine, you are all set. Another anti-parasitic that disposes of covid. I used it to good effect with a 92-year old.
Unbelievable
Try India. There is a pharmaceutical clearing house called Indiamart that has plenty of suppliers. And it's dirt cheap. https://corporate.indiamart.com/
I'm in the UK and have twice bought 12mg human grade IVM from India, no customs probs and arrived very quickly by tracked airmail. Worked out at about £8 per box of 100 pills including shipping, I bought 5 boxes each time. Bought from Kachhela Medex (initially via Indiamart), they gave the clearest quotes and have been very efficient. I have no affiliation with them!
As to if it works my only experience was when my son then wife had the virus last winter, I took IVM prophylactically and then when I became ill I took extra, I was only ill one day. They were both ill (not very bad) for about a week (but wouldn't risk the horse medicine!)
Thank you so much! That was really good advise, I have emailed them.
horseland online. a thumb nail full ... Equimec xoxoxo
I used ivermectin.com They sell some sort of adjunct "sanitiser" which is what I think helps them get past various customs, though you can buy without the sanitiser if you choose. It ships from USA but they do ship internationally. Total 50 12 mg tablets, no sanitiser, w/international shipping will be in the $140 USD range. I have no affiliation, and do read the sales pages VERY CAREFULLY. It did all work out fine for me, and I have my stash.
Thank you for this.
After looking at the page again, if shipping internationally, you have to buy the Germ stuff. Not just the pills alone. Sorry, but at least they are reliable. I ordered from them and got it right away. Now you only have to concern yourself with your customs. Good luck.
Thank you.
wowww
Try equine and farm supply vendors. The ivermectin for animal treatment is produced to very high standards. One need only ensure to adjust the dose, which is calculated by weight.
Pharmacyonair.com ivermectin kits, you can use PayPal. Paid a lot less than $450?
Thank you. Happy New Year!
A gal I met on Twitter who lives 30 miles away got it for me from India. I will write her to get the information. $450 is way too much!! I'll get back to you.
Same. Got mine for pennies from India, along with a z-pack stash. Just took 6 weeks and in US they started confiscating at customs- not sure if they still do.
Please, could you give me her contacts also? It is
Ewa-Lotta@protonmail.com
I live in Sweden and I am having trouble getting it through the customs and I have spent a lot of money on Ivermectin that I don't get. Thank you.
You have horses is Sweden, right? And sheep? And goats? And cattle? Go to any equine or farm supply store (online or brick and mortar) and buy either the liquid or the paste forms of Ivermectin (the liquid is easier for accurate dosing). Ivermectin for animal husbandry is the same drug as Ivermectin for human use: "Rose is a Rose is a Rose".
I have got the paste for horses, but I am not sure about the dosage since its mixed with this paste, so I have not touched it yet. I got some ivermectin sent from Thailand that was intended for cattle also, and that was great because it was unblended and in tablet form and it said on the bottle exactly how much Ivermectin a tablet contained. But my contact in Thailand moved to another country and have not been able to provide any more Ivermectin.
But you are right. Thank you, I will look at animal medicine again.
Dosing with the horse paste is easy, Emma; use the same pound-for-pound dose suggested for the horses. You are a 60 kg (130 lb.) horse as far as the medicine is concerned (About 3 notches on the syringe). This is .2 mg/kg, the "Normal" dose every week or two for prevention. Since doctors are now suggesting .4 mg/kg, if you become ill you would take a "120 kg horse" dose daily. Don't worry about being accurate, overdoses of IVM need to be massive (like 10x) before any problems occur. It's a very forgiving medicine.
Thank you Don, I will look at your answer again tomorrow and compare it to my horse paste. Happy new year and thank you!
The liquid should be the injectable, but take it orally. DO NOT use drench, sheep dip, or anything like that
You can get it pretty easily from India, no prescription necessary. Find an online source, then ask as many questions as you need to, so you can trust it. We've done this twice, with two different sources, both of whom were honest and provided the product. The ivermectin, BTW, comes in original manufacturer packaging. It's for human use, not veterinary.
Alldaychemistdotcom. No “s” at the end of “chemist” which would take you to a different website. It’s where we get ours at reasonable prices. Takes 2-3 weeks.
Thanks
Vitamin C , D, and Zinc all well. Don't forget Quercetin, Thiamine, NAC, and especially Niacin as well.
Resveratrol and Fisetin are good too.
And Xlear nasal spray and mouthwash too.
And don't forget the coffee too:
https://sprudge.com/scientists-discover-how-coffee-may-be-inhibiting-covid-19-infection-193595.html
XLear is a game changer! We started using that back in mid 2020 after that one study came out
Yep and Betadine cold defense nasal spray
I use that as well from time to time. I get it on Amazon since it is from Canada.
I have some Lugols iodine
Wasn’t sure if that’s the same as the betadine
I also have the mercola/Levy nebulizer ready if needed
H2O2 food grade with a drop of idodine
Haven’t used yet but glad I have this ready if needed
Lugol is better. Hydrogen peroxide works very well, too. As you probably know, it needs to be heavily diluted in saline before nebulization or you will burn your tissues.
Same here, since late 2020. I still use it every day.
I have Niacin in a flush form but I do not take it. It requires a whole protocol to have a therapeutic effect.
Niacin by itself can work as well, just not quite as much. Dr Dmitry Kats himself found that Niacin monotherapy alone worked reasonably well back in 2020. I take flush Niacin from time to time with other vitamins.
His protocol is down to three main things now, flush niacin, lactoferrin and folic acid. He’s back on Twitter now as well.
Lactoferrin was promoted by someone else last year, along with Benadryl. The folic acid is pretty new though.
So he removed the serine, NAC, melatonin, and other stuff now?
(I know he thinks Quercetin is counterproductive, but really, just don't take too close to when you take the Niacin. Space it out.)
My son, DIL, and 3 year old grandson have Covid now with symptoms like a cold, runny nose and feeling blah.
Are you in Canberra / Australia? I felt debilitatingly tired for 2 days. Could not do anything. Just slept and listened to some guided meditation. I had a bit of runny nose and tearings from the eyes, dry cough and headache, body aches. I went on water fast immediately. Today is my third day and I am a bit better (can use internet, talk to people, type this, do a bit of a housework) but still coughing (that dry cough). I am unvaccinated and never wore a mask. I am a bit concerned that (if this is covid) it might be the kind that attacks the brain (because of a Headache) and/or lungs (because of persistent dry cough). Silly I know. Sometimes silly thoughts just come to my mind and stay there for a while. (but not for too long)
Hope your family members recover soon!
Make sure you take a baby aspirin. When I had Covid I got a blood clot after I started feeling better.
Thank you. I take K & Nattokinase I will add baby aspirin 12h apart. Its not recommended to take Natto & baby aspirin at the same time.
Be sure "at the same time" doesn't means the same day..
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Know fish oil n asa and curcumin all thin blood and don't want to take those together
Just research that
And hope u feel better soon
You will be ok don't worry
Hi Bibi. I hope you feel better soon. I’m not sure that fasting is the best way to get through an illness. Perhaps your body needs nutrients and energy?
At all accounts, you have made the right decision to not let them vaxxinate you. After your illness is over, you will have a strong immunity that the vaxxinated will not have.
Either way, plenty of clear liquids probably helpful
Look into saline/colloidal silver nasal washes. My understanding is that if you reduce the viral load in the sinuses, it helps to limit the risk of neural issues. (Not a medical professional here ~ just what I've heard.)
I've been a neti user for many years. It didn't prevent me getting Covid (one mild case last summer) but "in principle" it makes sense that it rinses out viruses and other baddies. In my case, I use it for the less controversial purpose of reducing nasal congestion. Xlear is also a OTC product that helps loosen clogged sinuses.
Another "fringe" treatment is to add iodine to neti or nasal spray. With amusement, I note (similar to my ivermectin post elsewhere) you can find "official" warning against such "unapproved" use, since iodine is toxic. Yes it is potentially, but if you do a bit of research, you'd have to literally eat or drink quantities far, far greater than you'd ever be exposed to in using a nasal snort or a gargle. You know, if I didn't know better, I would suspect that the media deliberately distort facts to suit a desired agenda. I must be suffering from some sort of delusion. At my next office visit, I'll ask my psychiatrist if he can give me a drug to prevent such anti-social thoughts!
🤣🤣🤣
Years ago, I had sinus problems caused by a hiatal hernia and had to have sinus surgery to correct the sinus problems. After the surgery I was instructed to do daily nasal rinses using a NeilMed 8 ounce squeeze bottle filled with warm distilled water mixed with a packet of NeilMed Sinus Rinse powder (don't forget this or your nasal passages will burn.). I have kept up this daily nasal wash since then and in the winter months I do the nasal rinses twice a day.
I have read to use the saline rinse too. I use it in my nettie pot, and it really does help to clean out sinuses.
Great! Thank you for confirming, Sherry.
@ Bibi ~
You may also find the following article quite reassuring:
> How much should we worry about finding SARS-CoV-2 in the brain?
-- https://joomi.substack.com/p/how-much-should-we-worry-about-finding
No. I am in the US. My DIL's 85 year old grandfather was in the hospital with covid two weeks ago. He has other medical issues, so he was more suseptible to covid symptoms. He did have a headache while he was in the hospital. The Drs said he would receive the same meds that were given to President Trump when he had covid.
If you aren't doing this, take zinc, Vitamin C, Quercetin, etc for your symptoms. Praying you feel better soon. 🙏
That may be true but it sounds like you’re doing the right things
Be positive - it will help you heal
Early and prophylactic treatment is the only way. Daily vitamins (while you're still healthy) of C, D, quercetin, zinc and probiotics are a good barrier. Then, as soon as any symptoms arrive, follow the Brownstein protocol for nebulized hydrogen peroxide (https://www.docsoutsidethebox.us/post/how-nebulized-hydrogen-peroxide-has-been-used-to-help-with-respiratory-infections-like-covid). This is how my whole family has dealt with fending off all variants successfully over the past 3 yrs.
Bibi my wife has exactly what you have. Lost her voice too but she is farther along than you so don’t worry. Clearing out as we speak.
Jonm thank so much! I am all good now. Went on 11km hike, had to stop a few times but made it! Still fasting 5th Day. Feeling great. I never took the test so have no idea was it C19 or not. Cough resolved on its own, didn't take anything for it but drank Lemon balm tea often. Thank you for your encouragement! Great to hear your wife is well and thriving.
Feel better soon, Bibi!! 💕
Make sure that you take an ionophore if you are taking zinc, because zinc needs some help to get into cells. Quercetin is a common nutritional ionophore, but needs some vitamin C and maybe some bromelain, which is frequently compounded with it.
True. Also EGCG from green tea is a good zinc ionophore as well.
So you also take quercetin to provide the zinc with the requisite ionophore?
Correct. It is a great zinc ionophore. And Quercetin itself also has anti-viral and anti-inflammatory benefits in it's own right as well. Add some Vitamin C, and now you've really got a good synergistic trio!
'She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!'
Chasing the dragon.
Turtles all the way down.....
Turtles indeed. Igor, the case example you ended with is instructive, i.e. don't brush this off lightly, BUT it's a sample size of one. That person very likely has a compromised immune response from boosting. How have the less vaxed/unvaxed fared so far? Too soon for reliable data?
Indeed, for people who DON'T have VAIDS, this new strain is most likely a nothingburger for the most part. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe. Stay healthy and take your vitamins anyway regardless though.
I would say I am mostly with you here
She swallowed the what?
"C'mon man...I challenge you to a push-up contest!"
No fair
You’re a Guy
And Guys have more upper body strength
Ha! Good one Guy!🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I posted that on Twitter. Hope you don't mind.
Spread far and wide. Hopefully it could wake a few people up
That reminds me of this tasteless old joke:
A man calls the doctor. "Doc, I was about to make love to my wife when a mouse ran into her honeypot! Come quick."
The doctor says, "Get a piece of cheese and try to lure the mouse out. I'll be right over." (This was back when doctors made house calls.)
When the doctor arrives, he is let in and he finds the husband waving a can of tuna outside his wife. "I said use cheese," he says.
The husand retorts "The cat's in there!"
LOL
As a 62 a year old, who did not fall for the lies and propaganda, and whose wife was almost convinced by her cardiac specialists to take the jab, I had a hell of a time trying to convince her, that other experts the likes of Peter McCulloch were not offering the same advice. She listened to me and other experts, had open heart surgery, and we believe, her immune system helped her to mend faster because of the vitamin regimin the good doctors had reccomended. We had been taking them 4 months out from her op. These were Vitamin d, quecertin, zink, fish oil, NAC ( to help heal ) and good old vitamin C. We live in Oz and just experienced the latest wave of Covid. This was the first time either of us has been ill since this began and to be honest, it was like a very mild flu. Our 62 year old immune systems worked fine, yet our children who live in a different part of the country succumb to it over 6 ago months were very defensive when I referred to it as a " cold". They claimed it was more like a bad flu. Bad flu them, mild flu us....the difference....our kids are double vaxxed ....I have never been so medically informed, so disillusioned with mainstream medicine and so convinced that vitamins beat fake vaccines for effacacy, in my life.....
Me too.
Our regimen too, since this began, d, c zinc and quercetin plus nac. 70 plus. Were ill for the first time only this past sep/oct and, with hcq added, recovered within a week.
Glad your wife ultimately knew who had her best interests at heart.
LOVE the speech by the Queensland rep!
Amen to that!
Ioannidis J.P, et .al, Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population, Environmental Research, Volume 216, Part 3, 1 January 2023
Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS), Stanford University, Stanford, CA, USA
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512201982X?ut
From the data above, Median infection fatality rate (IFR) during the PRE-VACCINATION ERA was:
0.0003% at 0–19 years
0.002% at 20–29 years
0.011% at 30–39 years
0.035% at 40–49 years
0.123% at 50–59 years
0.506% at 60–69 years
0.034% for people aged 0–59 years
0.095% for those aged 0–69 years
According to today's Australian government statistics, 64,498,048 Covid jabs have been administered, in a country of around 26 million people: https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics
Just think about that... 64.5 million needles stuck in arms - for what?!?!?!?
This is the most disgusting exploitation of people, not only the pressure to succumb to unnecessary and potentially harmful medical interventions, but also that the diabolical Covid 'response' was used to steal people's freedom, to make them submit to incarceration in their homes in 'lockdowns', preventing free movement and association, and muzzling people with masks.
This is what 'public health' looks like, oppression of the people under the guise of a manufactured crisis.
Biggest crime in history.
Agreed that this is the biggest crime EVER. The sad part is that there have been 64 million instances of people being fundamentally stupid and ignorant - some clearly multiple times. My word, what a gullible (not to use a more appropriate word) population Oz has overall.
Yes...if government statistics are to be believed...and it's a 'big iff', a helluva lot of people in Australia have been jabbed.
It was the mandates that cornered people, being cancelled out of civil society if people wouldn't comply with the jabs.
Not sure where you are, but I suspect Australia is one of the most jabbed countries in the world under mandates. I don't think the UK had these mandates. Sure, they were pushed heavily to get the jabs, but not mandated. And the NHS refused the mandates after they were pushed through the UK Parliament.
Whereas in Australia, in most states, people were pressured, coerced and manipulated to have the jabs - people couldn't do much without the jabs.
No Jab, No Job for example, governments, companies, businesses, were insisting on people being jabbed.
Similarly state/territory governments had a range of jab mandates, demanding that people be jabbed to go to restaurants, entertainment, shopping. People had to sign in with QR codes, being under surveillance everywhere.
It was out of control. Some people are still mandated to get the jabs, e.g. in 'health care', but the jabs are worse than rubbish, and people are being coerced to have them over and over again, with no idea of the long-term cumulative effects, and potential disruption of the natural immune response.
Informed consent has been destroyed.
For the past year and a half I've written to the regulator of health practitioners (AHPRA), doctors' professional organisations (the AMA, RACGP, RACP), politicians, the media, raising over and over again the conflict between the obligation for 'informed consent' and the coercive jab rollout.
No-one would take any action to address the situation.
And now millions of people are jabbed. They've been misinformed about the danger, and tricked into having the jabs.
I'm reeling from how bad it is here. How we've been betrayed by politicians and bureaucrats.
The entire country has been set up to be jab fodder for ever more.
A deal has been done to set up a Moderna factory in Victoria, it's the same in the UK and Canada.
Is this fascism?
It definitely is Fascism. I live WA and I was out of work when my employer decided to go all in with this jabbing garbage. When I spoke up about the idiocy around and the jabs, I was labelled a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer. The issue that I have is that the population has been so cowardly, ignorant and completely lacking critical thinking, it is embarrassing. The medical community in particular should have been up in arms about this horror and yet, 9 out of 10 went along with the jabbing just to keep their paycheck. Pathetic. If they would have quit en-mass, none of this would have happened. Despicable how they are ready to go on strike over pay but not save their useless behinds. The politicians would have backed down and been thrown out of office. My colleagues, who most people would consider intelligent and educated showed that they are useless drones with the critical thinking capacity of a door knob. I do not feel sorry for the medical staff that are still getting jabbed to keep their jobs - they will pay the price soon enough as they are the most jabbed of the lot. I do hope to see the local wannabe emperor locked for the rest of his days along with his clique and every single official at the department of Harm aka Health. All these creatures have distinguished themselves in their malice, pettiness and psychotic behaviour.
My thoughts exactly. Cannot fathom the lack of inquisitiveness and the abundance of trust in government/health instances, whilst the same people are always complaining about government in everything else. This compliance, being ok with friends being banned from restaurants and events and becoming 2nd class citizens and with the divide and conquer tactics, deeply disappointed me in family and friends. They had no qualms about the censorship, didn’t even see it. A repeat performance of the 1920s/1930s here in Europe and we are not supposed to say so. Thank god I smelled a rat early on, being a naturally sceptical and distrusting person (i consider those to be good traits). Read a lot and Tried to warn friends and advised to wait, but they all caved in to pressure whilst not reading anything and just absorbing nightly propaganda. And once it is in, they turn a deaf ear on any of the adverse effects and the deaths. They get angry when you mention it. Needless to say I lost many “friends”.
They were never friends in the first place. I managed a group of around 15 people for over a decade and protected them from the upper echelons but when this nonsense started they "forgot" everything and joined the Covidian cult with no exception. Some of them had a really hard time, heart attacks, hospitalizations and ongoing neural problems but instead of waking up, they are mad at me for refusing the jabs and standing my ground. Since they all had Covid (some multiple times), I think that they are simply angry that I did not "do my part to save grandma" and they think they paid the price instead of me. I have heard of people saying that there needs to be some form of moving on. I do not agree - how can you even begin to reason with such stupidity?
They get Angey because they are scared!!
Nope, they get angry because they are either stupid and ignorant or because they realize that they made the mistake of their lives, mistake that they cannot undo. We are simply reminders of what critical thinking is all about and they cannot accept that we were right.
That's what I mean about being scared. They know something is terribly wrong but can't admit. So they get mad. I agree with you !!
Bingo!!!👍👍👍! I would NOT go to any doctor who has taken these serums! It literally is afecting their brains. First adverse event listed is Gene P136 deletion. If I got this right.They are all sock and overworked. Imagine all the mistakes being made. Surgeries? Hell NOOOOO!
Yep, it is really, really scary. What does one do if surgery is indeed absolutely critical?
Well said.
You're a stud (or studette) for doing the right thing.
Ups to you Miko!
My wife thinks I am a stud :-) However, everything I have done is because I have two boys that along with my wife are all that matters in this world for me. I do not want my kids or my wife to have a life that is worse overall compared to how I used to live in the place I was born. Where I was born, life was bad because the country was under communism/socialism. However, even in that hellhole, we were not locked up in apartments, we did not need passes to go shopping or see a movie, we did not have to mask up or had to take toxic jabs to make a living. Never in my life I could imagine the sort of hell that these imbeciles here in Oz managed to impose WITH the help of the locals. The result of my taking a stand was that I lost all employment for a while and most people I knew turned their backs on me. The only regret I have is the stress on my wife when I was out of work and things were not easy. Part of the credit goes to my wonderful wife - she backed me up all the time without any hesitation. Finally, I would do it again because it is the only thing that anyone with an ounce of sanity would do (in my opinion anyway). If no one tries to say or do something, we will end in a world that makes hell look good and I cannot accept that for my family.
Good job Mike you stud. A good wife is amazing - mine is a sweet looking thing but she has a steel spine and refused to wear a mask from day one.
Great to hear that you had backing from day one! That is what makes all the difference in the world - you share the tough times and have a blast as a pair when times are good.
Indeed. My heart goes out to all those whose spouses were/are in the other corner. That would be so tough.
You're making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Seriously.
I threw the "punches". My wife got us through.
My commiserations. We certainly seem to have some of the dumbest and ignorant people here in Perth (quite a contrast with the country towns which seem have ignored all the BS). Still, the silver lining is that if they keep getting themselves jabbed, it will catch up with them....
Well I'm a moron. I misinterpreted WA as Washington state instead of Western Austrailia....
As did I. I suspect much of those remarks would apply equally in Washington State, one of the most foaming-at-the mouth Progressive States in our increasingly frayed Union.
Oh, I am sure it does. It is run by democrats if I am not mistaken and that by default means lunatics and psychos.
Me too!
Heh, the mistake goes both ways.
Same thing happened in Canada.
Vaccine mandates STILL very much in effect here, in order to be hired... (Or even interviewed.)
And I'm not talking merely "medical industry" employment.
Five Eyes countries… US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.
Apparently taken over by the World Economic Forum, ‘build back better’ etc.
Is this not shocking?
Who voted for this?
There’s been a coup, and we’ve been betrayed by the political parties, which appear to have been overtaken by cuckoos.
Treachery on a massive scale.
How do we take it back?
I agree - the so called Federal Liberal party funded all the abuses committed by the states (mostly Labor). The problem is very much like in the US - both parties are absolute scum that hate the electorate and want to destroy the country. What really needs to happen is for the candidates at the local level to be thrown out BUT both the media and the political system are stupidly rigged in favour of the current bunch of psychos masquerading as representatives of the people. If it can be done, it will be an incredibly slow process.
UK is utterly broken
I don't know...we all need to think.
I cannot even begin to understand as to what happened to Canada. Trudeau has a lot to answer for and I really hope that the Canadians that are awake, manage to band together and vote this demented filth out of office.
Yes, it is.
It definitely was fascism.
Israel I believe is most vaccinated.
Israel is the laboratory of the world.
They are literally the largest study of the jabs.
Sadly, it looks like common sense is in very, very, very short supply throughout the world and especially here in Oz (though Canadistan and NZ are competing for the prize of having the dumbest populations on this planet). My hypothesis is that if you work in government, medical or academic environment, then you have zero common sense and have the emotional intelligence of a brick. Unfortunately, that covers a huge chunk of the population and that is how we ended up in the mess we are in at present. Unfortunately, I cannot see it getting better anytime soon.
Oz is aptly-named. So who is the little man behind the curtain?
Well, based on the evidence so far, a complete and absolute moron.
So true
Yup. Bullshit meters are the real "shortage".
That's because we cornered the market on bullshit meters here on substack! Lol!
Love it - good one!
So true.
Especially in Oz and NZ.
🤔 For what?
https://youtu.be/PxvNzzgoJX8
Lays out the control system in three minutes. Official Thales corporate video.
Grim isn't it?!
And the young will lap it up... Not realising that if they don't comply...they can be 'switched off', cancelled out of the system.
This is all happening without consultation.
'Our' governments have been captured.
We have no effective representation.
'Informed consent'...it's not just about medical interventions, it's about politics in general...we're not giving our 'informed consent' to so much that is happening.
People must wake up. The people must say no. Time to take it back.
11th hour stuff now. Me and authority never get on. Me and tyranny, Oooooo... bad idea.
Same here.
That’s the purpose of a free country.
The government is supposed to rule with a light touch, not too many laws, no heavy handed enforcement.
That’s the genius of the Constitution. Most everyone can live with it.
But, no....that’s not good enough.
So now come the fascist busybodys who want to tell everyone how to live...
It’s pissing me off just thinking about it.
Industry out of obstruction.
Mike, re the link you provided for the Thales digital ID wallet, here's some of the transcription... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxvNzzgoJX8
"...meet Lucy, student in psychology and me, her digital ID wallet issued by the government, to offer a wide range of identity services. In fact I'm a handy way of proving and protecting her identity, both online and face to face. Let's have a closer look at what I can do. I can help governments to better communicate with citizens.
Right now I'm reminding Lucy of the appointment she needs to schedule for
her mandatory vaccination..."
Who in their right mind ever wants to hear from the govt?
Isn't it great? I saw this not long after it was first uploaded, Dayz of Noah (YouTube) covered it.
None is more switched on to all this than Noah.
scary!
AMEN!
Remember, those rates are averages across entire age cohorts with no influence of known risk factors. If you are average or below average BMI and/or physically fit then your mortality risk is LOWER than shown.
There is another factor as well.
There have been studies that have shown that with COVID, those with type A or AB blood have a harder time than those with B or O. I have found that from my personal experience.
Also... if you are having lung issues, look at NAC. It's a great supplement that does help with that sort of thing.
Someone recently told me about the blood type differences! I started taking NAC (I have asthma) as my sorta prep against COVID and other respiratory viruses and I noticed that it helped with some symptoms of the asthma. Did you know the FDA tried to shut down the OTC sales of NAC? Freaking outrageous. That is how I know something is probably good for treating COVID. Can't let us have anything that helps us.
I am an O and I got Delta bad, my husband is an A and he's done pretty well. Mildly sick a few times. My son is an A and got the very first Covid bad. So at least in our family it was not true.
I am an O and just spend 2 days feeling EXTREMELY tired, with malaise and persistant mild headache and body ache. Felt like I am going down with a flue or C19 after 15 years of health. Did not take the TEST as in Australia you can only get treatment when your Oxygen levels are low enough. So I fasted, forced myself to go for a 30 min walk and slept. Have taken the standard Zev protocol + Rinses. I am fine today but still a bit weak. Still fasting. Hope this helps my O brothers and sisters.
Crazy. This is what I did when I had Delta.
Early Intervention Soulmates! Hahaha
Yeah Bibi, I'm an O and similar for me. SUPER tired and achy for 2-3 days. I'm slack on prepping but did have Vit C on had and took 1000mg anywhere from 3-10x per waking hour over most of those days. Never tested for CV but had been visiting my parents when they came down with it (they tested).
I'm type A and have COPD. I got Delta December last year. Worst flu I've ever had. Came down with pneumonia and my f---ing doctor would not treat my pneumonia. Said it was viral, sorry can't do nothing for you buddy. Eventually got through it but coughing so hard I collapsed a lung and spent New year in hospital for 12 days. Luckily I had IVM.or I probably wouldn't be here. Anyway some kind people here on substack have advised me to take NAC,which I have ordered and hope to have next week. Any way I'm celebrating my 1yr anniversary from Delta and cooking T-bone and lobster for me and wife tonight! 😋 Thanks to all and Happy and Healthy New Year!
Awful. Congrats on making it through, glad you did Porge and can celebrate!
Thank you Baya👍💪
I remember! Amazon stopped selling it at the time. So did Lassens. It’s available again now though.
AL I was able to get NAC on iHerb website continually. With no interruption.
I started sending it to everyone
Family/friends were miffed
What’s this??!
If I sent a study or article most “didn’t have time to read....too busy” 🤦♀️
Just blows my mind
Unless the info could come to them through a 30 second tik tok video no one got time to listen
Had my fiancés daughter (33)say
“Is it on tik tok....cause everything I learn now is on TikTok”
Blown away she admitted that
🤮
A healthy 49 year old friend has type O and he got Omicron badly ( unvaxxed). / Germany
Oh, the risks to the young and healthy (under 30) are ten times LESS than influenza. Middle age, same as flu. Average age of death was 82 with co-morbidites in the UK and that was the first "wave". The Wuhan Strain!
On that matter, the peak of the Coof in March/April in the UK had a lower all-cause mortality per 100k population than the flu seasons of 1997, 1999.and 2000.
These deaths were almost exclusively in care homes (Midazolam) and as May rolled around it went back to normal.
Beginning of 2021, a bright spark got some of the local authorities to hand over the total burials and cremations for each year from 2010 up to and including 2020.
No difference.
My oldest childhood friend who's a senior paramedic instructor in Major Incidents in the UK confirmed it was all bullshit back in 2020.
January 2021 comes and he's flat out. 🤔
He also confirmed what I'd been warning about the Coof injections too, just last week called it a "clusterfuck".
Re the 'young and healthy'...
In Australia, according to government statistics, 2,153,200 children aged 5-15 years have had one Covid jab. 1,858,599 children aged 5-15 years have had two Covid jabs: https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics
These needles are unnecessary, and potentially harmful, medical interventions pressed upon children...
I challenged the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation on this matter, see my email to the Chair, Nigel Crawford:
Why does ATAGI recommend COVID-19 mRNA injections for all children aged 5 to 11 years? 22 April 2022: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2022/04/why-does-atagi-recommend-covid-19-mrna-injections-for-all-children-aged-5-to-11-years.pdf
I haven't received a response to my email to Nigel Crawford.
I've subsequently followed up on this matter with the then President of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners, Karen Price (9 May 2022). No response.
And also the Federal Health Minister, Mark Butler (18 November 2022). No response.
It's awful in Australia, where so many people have been pressured, coerced and manipulated to submit to the jabs under mandates, e.g. No Jab, No Job.
'Informed consent' has been trashed.
The medical and scientific establishment is an ethical wasteland, along with politicians and the mainstream media. This isn't a liberal democracy, it's tyranny.
Aside from the increasingly evident possiblity this is to sterilise the human population and reduce life expectancy, the more.immediate matter is one of shareholder risk....
Under the United States CARES Act and PREP Act, a vaccine used under an Emergency Use Authorisation has automatic blanket indemnity granted by the state. No one can sue the manufacturers regardless of harm caused.
If this indemnity is to continue once the vaccine is fully approved, the vaccine must be approved for children and recommended/ mandated as part of the childhood vaccination programme.
If the vaccines aren't approved for children, the manufacturers won't enjoy indemnity for any age group under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
This is one reason why children are being subjected to this experimental injection under an EUA, even though there isn't an emergency in their age group.
This is also why this vaccine, which isn't a vaccine, is being called a vaccine, because indemnity only applies to vaccines and no other class of pharmaceuticals.
The US Centers for Disease Control estimated children are at a ten fold greater risk from influenza than they are CoVID-19.
The Nuremberg Charter, written after the horror of medical experimentation by the Third Reich to protect bodily autonomy, was never actually ratified by nations rather, it was the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights.
Article 6 – Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
2. Scientific research should only be carried out with the prior, free, express and informed consent of the person concerned. The information should be adequate, provided in a comprehensible form and should include modalities for withdrawal of consent. Consent may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without any disadvantage or prejudice. Exceptions to this principle should be made only in accordance with ethical and legal standards adopted by States, consistent with the principles and provisions set out in this Declaration, in particular in Article 27, and international human rights law.
3. In appropriate cases of research carried out on a group of persons or a community, additional agreement of the legal representatives of the group or community concerned may be sought. In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.
Article 27 – Limitations on the application of the principles
If the application of the principles of this Declaration is to be limited, it should be by law, including laws in the interests of public safety, for the investigation, detection and prosecution of criminal offences, for the protection of public health or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. Any such law needs to be consistent with international human rights law.
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Article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights enshrines the fundamentals of the Nuremberg Charter into international law and, for the purposes of these CoVID-19 injections, is being criminally subverted by fraudulently invoking Article 27, which suspends Article 6 on the basis of a "public emergency" to justify Emergency Use Authorisation.
These "vaccines" fail all the legal tests for Emergency Use Authorisation
1. There is no emergency, especially in the under 65 with no underlying health conditions;
2. Existing safe and effective treatments are available, especially for early intervention;
3. These injections do not meet the required efficacy, preventing neither transmission or contagion;
4. There is substantial evidence of serious injury and death.
"But we’re never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it. That’s just the way it goes. That’s how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the rotavirus vaccine. And I do think we should vote to approve it." - Dr. Eric Ruben, Editor of the New England Journal of Medicine at the FDA approval hearing for EUA for the children under the age of 12.
Mike, in Australia, I have a recent letter from the Department of Health and Aged Care confirming to me:
"Informed consent should be obtained for every COVID-19 vaccination, as per usual consent procedures for other vaccinations."
This is clear and unambiguous, would you not agree?
But who has been properly informed about these jabs? I suggest no-one has been properly informed... And here we are, with 64.5 million Covid needles stuck in arms... https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics
Also, in July 2021, the former Morrison government advised health practitioners they had specific medical indemnity for administering Covid Jabs...it now turns out this is a lie. They do NOT have specific medical indemnity for Covid jabs.
And have any of the practitioners properly obtained informed consent, as they are obliged to do?
I'm pursuing this matter with medical insurers and other parties.
See response from the Australian Department of Health and Aged Care: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/mc22-018819-signed-highlighted-1.pdf
See my correspondence to Federal Health Minister Mark Butler: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2022/12/response-re_-are-health-practitioners-covered-for-indemnity-insurance-re-the-covid-jabs2.pdf
Try and get one of the safety information inserts (massive sheet of paper) that come with these injections when delivered to clinics.
The ones I saw being presented to Senator Ron Johnson had "Intentionally Blank" on them and nothing else.
These pages are supposed to be the basis of informed consent.
All power to you! The insider public servant secret is that Public Service in Australia provides no significant benefit ( less then 20%) to Australians.Its primary purpose is that it keeps people employed. It is a form of high paid Centerlink benefit. Every public servant knows it although they wont admit it to the outsider. Look at the Outcome Statement project deliverables and matrix of success.
Informed consent was impossible from the outset b/c we have NO data about long term harms. Period.
100 % Agree
To further put things in perspective...
Consider that in the eleven months up to December 2020, globally 1.64 million deaths were attributed to Covid-19. These 1.64 million deaths must be seen in context with the 56 million deaths expected in a world that then had around 7.9 billion people.
And that figure was composed with them throwing everything they could at it to build up the numbers to try and justify their grossly disproportionate and ill-targeted Covid response.
For more background, please see my:
- BMJ rapid response: Liberal democracies being turned upside down to 'protect health services', 18 December 2020: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4847/rr-16
- Email to Anders Tegnell, then State Epidemiologist, Swedish Public Health Agency: Sweden, coronavirus, vaccination - ethical considerations, 22 December 2020: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/sweden-coronavirus-vaccination-ethical-considerations.pdf
One death is a tragedy,
A million is a statistic.
-Stalin
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Most people don't understand basic maths.
We don't know the true numbers, as the CDC defined a covid death as "any death within 28 days of a positive PCR test".
They conflated those who died WITH covid and those who died FROM covid.
Important distinction, as locally we had gun shot victims counted as "covid deaths". (Testing was mandatory when entering a hospital, so if that gun shot victim tested positive, then "poof", another covid death.)
Re the UK, this is interesting to consider...
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England
I remember a CDC slip up in 2020 when they said of all the deaths reported as CoVID (death for any reason within 28 days of a positive test), 6% had actually died of the Coof.
The UK, similar. Those with only CoVID on the death certificate numbered under 7,000, that was nearing the end of it in 2021.
I don't think anything can be inferred from government data, can't trust any of it.
Do you follow John Dee as well Mike! Being from the UK? I do (Dutch here).
Yeadon? I have since early 2020. John Dee, can't remember.
Here’s the link to his substack. https://jdee.substack.com/
He is also on FB. He was working for a large nhs trust. His work comprised three different roles: 1. Clinical Data Manager in charge of departmental databases; 2. Senior Clinical Audit Facilitator in charge of the national and local clinical audit programme; 3. Statistical consultant. Retired in 2009. He has been dissecting a lot of hospital records and ONS information. Writes with great British humor as well. His gift is that he is as good with words as with stats, so the unenlightened in statistics (me) can grasp what he says.
Kettle on! Love his attitude, too!
Me too, so witty! And such a way with words.
He most certainly is very witty! I enjoy his articles, though I don't have the background to understand more than the basic gist. He does a great job of explaining things in a way that even people (such as myself) without the background education can see where he's going.
Same here, but i do get his story because he explains it so well. And i particularly love how no outcome is accepted as the ‘correct’ one, unless he has used every tool available to double check.
Yes, and we need that!
Yep, already subscribed. I get.lost with it all now. I remember when it was just Mike Yeadon. It was easy then.
Yes, it sure was. Could still keep track then ;-)
This.
Tell everyone
Every person we know should know this imo
I knew this in March 2020. Ioannidis first meta data analysis back then was saying the same, as did Stockholm University research, hence they never closed Sweden.
This is the funniest one. Look at the date. Look who the authors are.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2002387
"On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2"
Truly astounding. I made fun of it for the first 4 months until it became unhealthy.
Total species level fail.
The first day of the lockdowns I looked at my wife and said; They are going to sacrifice saving the MOST lives for trying to save EVERY life. She looked at me and said; They are going to DESTROY lives in order to SAY "if it only saves one life". My wife is smart.
I scrawled that on a post in my workshop the day after the lockdowns began. I wanted to leave a message for the new owner of my house to share with all my neighbors after we fled the midwest for Florida in April of 20'.
That was my argument when they came up with the "you are being selfish" response to not masking. I asked, even back then "What is more selfish, to refuse to mask for the .14% of the population that is going to die due to Covid, or if you are part of the .14% demanding everyone do all these things to accommodate them?
No one has worn mask in the context of respiratory protection against fine aerosols that carry viruses, throughout this entire bullshit. I see the efficacy of N95 masks (for wood dusts) and surgical masks (for spittle) is STILL being debated. I should point out it says it on the side of the box they come in. "Does not protect against viral transmission."
I know about RPE because I spent thirty years a designer and project manager in land remediation, brownfield regeneration and hazardous wastes management. The "face coverings" nonsense was one of the red flags early on. That and the big dance of the excavators in Wuhan. What a big show!
There were many reasons why many wore masks throughout the "pandemic." I'll give you a list here, it is by no means exhaustive. You may say that isn't what you meant when you made your assertion. My intuition tells me that what you meant to say is "The mask was not a legitimate deterrent for the context in which it was worn." I would agree. But here is a list of reasons why people masked:
1. They were told to do so. (move along to get along).
2. They did it to protect their loved ones. (It's not for me, but for everyone around me.)
3. They did it because the virus spreads in water particles. (There was a lot of "hot" water particle talk back in the summer of 2020.
4. The mask stops transmission. (They don't know how it stops transmission, but it makes sense on the surface. You cover your cough...if you wear a mask covering it must cover your mouth that much more effectively.
5. They wore a mask because everyone else wore a mask. (I wasn't going to wear a mask, but I cased a local grocery store at night to see if anyone at all walked in without a mask so see if there would at least be safety in numbers...I gave up and decided to go in anyhow and found no one stopped or questioned me.
My point wasn't concerning mask efficacy, but rather that these measures were never thought of in terms of "risk/reward." but in terms of "This is an evil bad scary disease and must be gotten rid of as quickly as possible to the expense of everything else."
You don't have to tell me your credentials. I have no credentials in regards to masks, but I am surrounded by people who do. I just knew that masks didn't work by asking common sense questions like "If masks worked, why didn't we wear masks each flu season?"
I understand why the general public complied, but I'd add herd mentality to that list. Social compliance.
"I must wear one because you wear one. But we both know these aren't really doing anything because we can eat a sausage roll round the side of the things and John down the road vapes straight through his. But we don't ever mention this and do it anyway and we don't dare question authority."
Most people will unquestioningly conform, however ridiculous or illogical the action.
That, in a nutshell, is why we are where we are.
Herd mentality, Mass formation, belief in the consensus, or as Bonhoeffer calls it "becoming stupid" in some ways it has helped us evolve, but in the last three years if has shown how it can lead to our undoing.
Herd mentality can be extremely helpful. If I eat from tainted food, and throw up, the tendency is that those around me will also throw up, probably because we oftentimes shared the same source of nutrition. That is helpful, makes sure that at least some people survived food poisoning back in the day. It also helps in terms of herd immunity.
Just being together brings safety. But it can cause irrational behavior as well, like stampedes, running off a cliff, and adopting ridiculous, ineffective, and sometimes harmful measures. And the tendency of this herd like behavior is to streamline and simplify it. "Any mask will do" "Two meters," "wash your hands," "everyone must vaccinate."
One of the most ridiculous examples of mass formation was seeing outside a restaurant "Mandatory masking" and you looked at the sea of tables inside the cafeteria and they were all eating maskless.If I had any spine, and some chalk and eraser, I would have erased that sign and replaced it with "Compliance signified by mask on entry, but once at the table, eat because the virus is the Santa Claus of viruses and knows when you are walking around and knows when you are eating."
The measures become more ridiculous as they evolve in the face of reality. What happens when people still get covid-19 if they vaccinate? Well then it's because enough people haven't vaccinated. Or they move the goalposts, and make up lies, and yet still support and maintain the behavior. The HHS still has PSA's in twitter about "Spreading joy and not Covid 19 this Christmas."
I love the people that assert they never had covid for three years, and then finally after being triple vaccinated, and double masked most of the time, they finally got it.
First of all, how do they know they haven't had it? Did they test themselves in november of 2019 when there were no Covid tests? They also knew back in those beginning days that there was "asymptomatic spread." How can they be so sure they were never exposed even while masked. They can't.
I think I had Covid in February and December of 2020. So why did I need to mask, get vaccinated, or anything for a disease I already had and for which had (at that time) a .3% death rate (and now that rate has dropped below .14%)
If there is a hierarchy of ridiculous decisions, it is any one that is dealing with the masking and vaccinating of children. The chance of a child dying from Covid is .0003% It is effectively zero. So hey, closing down school, isolating kids, masking kids, vaccinating kids was at best ineffective..at worst, harmful. They should be held accountable for their actions
Riddle me this, because to this day it leaves me befuddled
I have seen videos from inside these "vaccination centres" where a person received the concoction and promptly collapses unto the floor under the force of gravity, convulses, violently, then medics are pumping on their heart and the person get stretchered out of there.
The people witnessing this spectacle remain seated and wait their turn.
I guess normalcy bias can be an even more extreme (non) reaction than I thought.
Fuck knows but that is mad.
Exactly.
The most important part is you said something.
This is what this latest variant, the BS.24/7.TV-ChinaRapidCoof is going to be used to push. Think about this in parallel with CBDC's...
https://youtu.be/PxvNzzgoJX8
terrifying. and the most of the young don't even see it.
Send it everywhere. To everyone. The "....remind Lucy to book her MANDATORY VACCINATION..."
Because if Lucy doesn't, Lucy's fk'd. Lucy can't access her CBDC UBI or even the front door of the house she doesn't own.
Lucy doesn't even own her own clothes anymore.
Hill to die on and all that. 🙂
There are probably people somewhere working on the ultimate hak. You could have a serious problem ever straightening out a stolen i dentity, with anything that integrated.
That's not even addressing the obvious complete loss of privacy from just being plugged in to such a shitstem.
Next will be geofencing. These "15 minute cities" really means that's the radius you can go before your social credit score thing turns red, it's like Total Recall where the prisoners head gets blown off by the explosive collar as he runs past the boundary limit.
Maybe not that bad, but Boston Dynamics have already outfitted their cute AI robot dog with automatic weapons. That's real.
They're already doing it. Why do you think they really started tracking movements during covid?
Perhaps climate lockdowns are next?....
😱
Robots have vulnerabilities too
ChinaRapidSpoof.
It's almost a spoof at this point...except people are killing themselves!
It's mental. Been reading posts from China. Typical... "Yeah, we all had it two weeks ago and it wasn't much.of anything. Why the fuss?"
I grabbed the Fauci paper days after it was published. I gave it to so many friends, family, colleagues. I learned about Ioannis back then. I assessed the risk and figured it out. I watched as the world went bananas. I'm not a medical professional. I am a talented accountant that analyzes data, corroborates what I read and assesses risk. It wasn't that complicated.
You mean the Fauci paper published in NEJM in March 2020?
The paper in which he said:
"If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2"
And:
"Therapy currently consists of supportive care while a variety of investigational approaches are being explored.11 Among these are the antiviral medication lopinavir–ritonavir, interferon-1β, the RNA polymerase inhibitor remdesivir, chloroquine, and a variety of traditional Chinese medicine products.11"
Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2002387
Exactly that one! I showed this to people who maintained a bunny in headlights look and failed to absorb and comprehend what I was showing them.
And here we are...
Except billions of people have been tricked into having rubbish medical interventions/jabs...not to mentions billions and billions of rubbish tests.
The creation of the oh so lucrative Covid industry...out of thin air...
A means to exploit the people - steal their money and their freedom.
What a crime!!!!
Who are the beneficiaries...?
Here's one....
Sunak, Britain's unelected (by anyone including Tory Party members) Prime Minister.
Former Goldman Sachs;
Close ties with the World Economic Forum, unelected as Prime Minister he was installed to carry out their nefarious agenda;
Billionaire wife, richest woman in the UK, non-domiciled tax status;
Obtained a US Green Card during his time in office;
Father-in-law owns Infosys, the technology provider for Digital ID/CBDC/Social Credit system in India;
Sunak's father-in-law has a £900m-a-year joint venture with Amazon, big part of the Great Reset;
Sunak co-founded the hedge fund Theleme, which had an initial fund of £536m, registered in the Cayman Islands;
Major share holder in Moderna, Theleme was an early investor;
Sunak refused to disclose how much profit his investment in Moderna had made through CoVID vaccines;
When Sunak's own backbencher MP's demanded these "vaccines" be withdrawn from use, Sunak refused and replied with "The vaccines are safe and effective."
This video by Tim Gielen, released in March 2021 and subsequently edited in september 21, is elucidating as to who owns the world. https://www.timgielen.com/videos/
Sunak's bint also had a Bounceback Loan (well not her but an off-the-shelf company) for just under £2 million.
Written off though.
I know I have a link for this but I cannot find it at present but when I do I shall add it.
It set the foundations for our future "anti-vaxxer" status. Once you'd figured it out in 2020, you were primed to resist the onslaught of 2021.
Without a doubt.
When it started, I rushed to the US Holocast Museum website and found ALOT of great material about propaganda. Posters depicting Jews as venom mirrored closely when they said kids are vectors. Shameful.
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/19016790.people-will-die---bcp-puts-strong-covid-message
What do you think of this that was posted on some Instagram thing that youngsters would see?
First I knew about it was when my friends daughter asked me "if Nanny dies, is it my fault?"
So why, in May 2021, did John Ioannidis urge Australia to "push for vaccination very fast (given) you have very few people infected. Otherwise I don't see another way out. You will get your wave sooner or later".
This was reported in The Australian newspaper, in an article titled: Lockdowns 'not reason for success', says epidemiologist, 10 May 2021.
I challenged Ioannidis about this, see my emails to him:
- John Ioannidis urges Australia to "push for vaccination very fast..." Why? 17 September 2021: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/john-ioannidis-urges-australia-to-_push-for-vaccination-very-fast..._-why_.pdf
- COVID-19 vaccination in Australia and John Ioannidis' advice, 1 October 2021: https://vaccinationispolitical.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/covid-19-vaccination-in-australia-and-john-ioannidis-advice-1.pdf
Must be the same as old Campbell and Aseem Malhotra. They trusted these institutions and organizations their whole lives, so believed the hype and got wrapped up in it, too myopically close to the subject of the Coof to stand back and see the bigger picture. Big pharma Stockholm syndrome.
It was a revelation watching it all, who got dragged in by the Death Star's tractor beam and who didn't.
It's probably because they each have a television set, whereas I haven't since 2001.
Be wary of Malhotra - too pushy with the jabs on UK TV and then180.
Like maybe he is genuine but just seems "off"
Noticed he keeps mentioning some people refused the injection because they believe this nonsense about "depopulation, microchips and control."
Perhaps he is controlled opposition, or coming from polite society (unlike us savages) has a little way to go on his long mental journey.
Not sure about him at all but I was going say "trust but verify" however for this situation I think that "distrust until confirmed otherwise" is the way to go.
I don't trust anyone. Learned from hard experience, many times.
My goodness it took Campbell SO TEDIOUSLY LONG to see/admit the truth. Either he really did believe the sun shone out of the medical industry or else he was scared of offending YT and losing his channel.
He had probably assumed, rather lazily, that it was a vaccine.
Many were blinded. If I knew him, I would advise him to apologize to you and make a public statement that he erred. It is a black mark on his career. Very sad.
It's worth mentioning that IFR and CFR are legitimate medical terms, but as will all data they can be taken out of context, or directly manipulated by the unscrupulous. For example, lets say that MERS really did have a 36% CFR. That's pretty high. But what what that figure doesn't tell you is even more important -- that (probably) the majority of infections never came to the attention of the health system, probably because they were mild or even went undetected. CFR/IFR does measure something, but it gives about as accurate a view of the true lethality of a disease as would drawing conclusions about motor vehicle safety merely by a survey of ER admissions resulting from auto accidents.
The worst part is that a lot of them do (I showed them the stats) and they still go like sheep to the abattoir. Never thought I would live in times like this. I do understand what Cassandra would have felt like in Troy.
*I do understand what Cassandra would have felt like in Troy
Brilliant. I forgot about that. So thanks!
Mass vaccination prevents lockdowns … the disease is irrelevant
I'll do anything to get my kids back in school...and den?!
Exactly, no worse than a bad flu - so is there really a COVID after all?
According to a major statistical analysis by D enis R ancourt and colleagues, there is very strong evidence against the theory of excess deaths caused by a contagious pathogen and none to support it.
In a nutshell, excess deaths since the 'pandemic' was announced are correlated to government interventions, both in time and place: lockdowns, masking, vaccines. All causes stress to people who then fall ill to bacterial pneumonia - which interestingly enough has symptoms identical to COVID. Then it's an open question as to whether there were any other unknown 'stressors' introduced into particular locations such as New York and Bergamo to 'kick-start' the 'pandemic'.
If you dig deeper into how the 'variants' are conjured up you discover that it all rests on some very shaky 'science'. See A ndrew K aufman.
Even though my covid experience sucked, I'm not worried about this (for myself) given how long term natural immunity is formed (nk and tcell recognition of functionally constrained proteins). However, I do keep on hand and use when necessary, a neti pot, xclear, iodine rinse as well as a nebulizer which works really well with a little saltwater for clearing out the chest (doc recommended that when I had it) also quercetin, D, zinc and NAC, amongst other supplements. I think it's practical given the viral shitshow going around. Oh and not hiding away but getting lots of frequent exposure at lower levels so you can train the innate immune system. Just my approach.
To stay in good condition, my strategy has been...
Minimum 5,000 steps a day, a lot of the walk up steep inclines, in clean air.
Anti-inflammatory, low glycemic index wholefoods diet. Max 1800 calories a day.
Intermittent fasting, 4/20 progressing to OMAD.
Supplements, take with food...
Quercetin 500mg/day
Vitamin D3, 5000iu/day
Vitamin C, 1000mg/day
Vitamin K2 Mk7, 100mcg/day
Omega-3 fish oil, 1000mg/day
Zinc, 25mg/day
NAC, 1,600mg/day
Black cumin seed oil, 1,000mg/day
Turmeric and cayenne pepper, strong anti-inflammatory
Don't smoke or drink.
"Don't smoke or drink."
You lost me there sadly.
Dr Fauci said give up smoking and protect yourself. And I still see smokers all over the place. They are not dropping dead. It seems total opposite. (As many of the things he has suggested :-P)
Hey mate.
Scientists in France found that nicotine stopped the virus from replicating. A few days later, the government in France made it illegal to buy nicotine replacement therapy online.
They literally did everything they could to stop people having any treatments so they could either die or get the death stabs.
Fuck the lot of these scumbags.
So nicotine works then :-)
What else Fauci has said ? Gotta check.
How annoying! Damn French bollocks (excuse my French as Brits say :-P). Macron still wants to piss off the unvaccinated. He is possessed with evil spirits (called WEF).
Macron deserves a medieval execution. A mere guillotining would be too kind.
How synchronous. I was thinking of the French Revolution too.
Lock him up in Conciergerie.
An iron mask and a brick wall would be ok with me.
He does not recommend smoking but using patches or the gum but more to treat long covid or problems with taste and smell.
See Dr. Bryan Ardis on the nicotine theory
Yeah he's got that one right.
I still recommend stopping smoking, regardless of the Coof. For twenty years used to smoke a 50g pouch of Golden Virginia a week, rollie's no filters. Stopped in 2017, feel bloody great. Plus, it saves like £1,500 a year or whatever.
I stopped too! Already in 98! A 50 a day habit, cold turkey. Best thing I did. But i do very much like a glass of good wine! Can’t give that up.
I hear you. I would still say it's a personal choice and balancing act will be needed by each smoker should they wish to continue to smoke.
*I am not a smoker.
I regret ever smoking.
There is the theory out there that the spike protein has an afinity for nicotine due to the fact that the type of receptors it binds to are nicotonic acetylcholine receptors. So in the presence of nicotine as in smokers it will bind to the nicotine rather than these receptors. Dr Bryan Ardis talked about it
Thanks. I'm pretty certain I had Covid in December 2019. It kicked my ass but it didn't stop me smoking like a trooper. I literally don't care. About anything.
I am a social smoker. ( Not really social! Lol)! Anyways..Smoke 4 or 5 cigs a day. Have NOT had any illness whatsoever! I do take all the vitamins and minerals that most of us have been taking for about 3 years. So there's that.
Vape and alcohol free gin.
Vaping is fine. Alcohol free gin? Why even live?
Baboon
I do all of the above vitamins/supplements.
And a sniff of Xlear
Also
Outdoor walking,biking, kayaking, metal detecting and hiking all over.
Lots of sun here in Arizona
All about the D
But tonight..... New Year’s Eve ..... it’s gonna be a whiskey kind of night
Slow and on the rocks
I’m going to celebrate another year without the woo coof and clank a glass of whiskey and be surrounded by some crazy ass folks here in Quartzite AZ 🥳🥳🥂
Enjoy AZ. I finally got to see Phoenix (and Sedona) for a week in Jan 2020. Then back home to my family in NZ just before the crazy started...
Hahah!
So much great health advice here- I can tell Igor’s readers are a well informed lot! Those are the exact supplements my family and I take. The only thing I would add is NAC is best to take on empty stomach (or at least not with proteins) and maybe melatonin at bedtime, especially if you don’t get much morning sunshine.
Melatonin is something I definitely should take. I'm an insomniac. Be up for days. Never had a circadian rhythm. I'm into day three of a waking cycle right now. I might finally go to sleep later on tonight.
Absolutely take Melatonin it is safe and it is ok to increase..i started with 1 mg then 3 now 10mg when i felt like im coming down with a flu. Also Lyons Mane mushroom extract from lyfe cykle helps me dream very often
Here's one. Magnolia Bark extract. For anxiety and sleep. Works a charm. Combine with turmeric and pepper as an anti-inflammatory. Wonderful.
Better than a pint of vodka with a methadone top!
Melatonin works on multiple pathways. Check out John Paul substack " All things hidden"
i had a bad reaction to melatonin. made me more insomniac and anxious. what did i do wrong? i have heard taking too much can have negative effects - and to start with miniscule amounts. Most people start with too high a dose. Thoughts?
NAC is powerful and one has to be careful taking it if there are other medications involved.
I had a very bad reaction to a sulfa anti biotic, it's now listed as an allergy on my medical chart. Do you think NAC is safe for me?
I can no longer take NAC, the Sulphur stinks and runs overtake me if I do. Maybe I could take smaller more frequent doses, but I used to be able to handle a 600mg dose. Not so much now :(
add Black Elderberry Syrup & Melatonin. I also take Juice Plus--all 4 varieties. Increase your Vit C. At least double. Resveratol 500 mg/daily
Black Elderberry sounds nice.
FLCCC protocol recommends. It works.
Get as much sunshine as possible before 10.30 AM helps too.
As if. You furkers keep me awake until stupid o'clock. 😂
Your fault. You got me all riled up with your post over at SimComm's spot!
I have that effect on people, it's true.
This is the UK. Nuff said.
5000 IU Vit D may not be enough. Get a blood test (its quite inexpensive) and adjust accordingly.
The "normal range" is supposedly 30 - 100 as measured in the blood test, but 30 is pretty useless in terms of the immune system. You want your level to be at least 50 so that IF you get Covid, it will tend to be milder; Dr. Ryan Cole has said if it is at least 50, you won't get a cytokine storm, your body won't go there - that is the bad lung inflammation that was putting people in the hospital on ventilators in the first round of Covid. I don't know that is a guarantee, but data shows, reasonably correct. However, if you get your level up to 80 you probably will not even get Covid, or flu, or colds, or any other respiratory infections. If you go here https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-PREVENT-COVID-FLU-RSV-Clinical-Guide.pdf there is a pdf of a "Guide to Prevention" and on page 7 there is information that can help you to get your VItamin D level closer to where it may need to be, also page 4 has info on Vitamin D. It is good to check a level, but if there is some reason you can't do it right away, 5,000 IU per day is rasonable. Be aware that as we age, we are not able to convert sunshine into Vitamin D as readily as we did as children, our capacity for this fades as we age. Also in northern climates in the winter, the angle of the sun makes it impossible to get adequate Vitamin D from the sun, plus, it's cold so we're covering up. I saw one presentation where a map was shown and looking at a line of latitude near the top of North Carolina, continuing through Tennessee, Arkansas, Okalahoma - everything to the north of the line was too far north to get adequate Vitmain D from the sun during the winter. I would think in Canada and UK, it's fine to get a little fresh air and sunshine in the winter, but don't count on the sun for meeting your Vitamin D needs in the winter. I understand that Fauci takes 8,000 units a day in the winter.
Martha, I had Delta last year 12/21 very badly / clinic for 4 weeks, as O2 dropped terribly . My VITD was 125ng/ml ( laboratory Clinic).
A German functional doctor told me :
- prophylaxis: blood test and then accordingly upregulating to 100 ng/ml.
- ♦️Cave: if LONG COVID and TH2 Shift : NO VIT D
There was a massive Israeli study that showed if blood levels are >60 ng/ml, mortality in all age groups was virtually zero. The fact that Vitamin D could have stopped Covid cold makes the gene therapy by Pfizer et al., all the more criminal
I got Delta 20DEC2021. Emergency to hospital after 5 days of high fever ..Oxygen dropped within 2hrs to 84.
🔴 My VITD was 125 ng/ml acc to the university Clinic Frankfurt / Germany.
It did not stop it.
Hmmm. the study was from the days of Alpha (but it was for mortality - very glad you didn't prove that wrong!!!). Omicron got me from an employee this fall. Was really really miserable for a week - worst flu ever - then tiredness and a cough for a month. Unvaxxed. Hoping for natural immunity for XBB (taking supplements +IVM 24 mg/.dy).
Pls do not forget Mg. It is absolutely necessary for a good VIT D action. Also B Vitamins , esp VIT B3 ( Niacin). To help mitochondria I also take NMN, NAD
Avoid salt and sugar, and check this out: https://c19early.org/
Sugar is the enemy....but so hard to give up for me
we had a relative who died from his supplement, most of which come from China by the way.
The poison affected his kidneys.
Which supplement?
One has to check the sources . This is why I have my German Manufacturer who does check his ingredients
I am sorry for your loss
I have the same approach. But I dont think that Igor would agree that we can train our innate immune system. I remember he said somewhere the best thing is NOT TO GET it ever.
Everyone's going to get this bug, it's inevitable, especially at a basic reproductive rate of 20, that's unheard of. It's already passed through much of China and although the (alleged) numbers look biblical, remember this is a country 1,400,000,000 people.
I had it. Lasted 36 hours and was gone. Unmemorable. Sore throat and aches and pains.
Norovirus, that I am terrified of, a thousand times worse.
It's not about training your immune system, just keeping it healthy. All fat and wheezing and micronutrient deficient renders one immunocompromised and hence vulnerable.
If anything, this Coof bug has caused people to take an interest in their diet and general state of being. Silver linings.
Maybe it attacks people differently. I had no sore throat just body ache, headache (you know that one "sharp" pulsating pain on left side) and some tearings from the eyes and nose. No congestion. EXTREME DEBILITATING TIREDNESS and dry cough. I couldn't do anything. Just slept and listened to guided meditation with the mask over my eyes. Those were my symptoms. I'm O neg.
Yes. Each immune system is different . I am unvaxxed, I am A, got Delta 12/2021 and my oxygen dropped to 84. Hospital in Germany 4 weeks. Still fatigue a year later up to now. In Germany they refused the FLCCC protocol. Only official standard corticosteroids and antibiotics.
I hope you will eventually fully recover Heike. I know the deliberate withholding of effective meds, since i am your neighbour to the west, where we also have a wef poster boy. Here too, hcq and ivm forbidden. Customs are confiscating shipments. Luckily we ordered very early on last year, and wrote out the protocol in advance, because once you are sick you don’t feel like looking it up. We managed to get both hcq and ivm delivered. Forewarned IS forearmed. Was put to good use this past sep/oct :-)
Yes… I have to order some somewhere. But I want a trusted source. There might be false meds in the Internet . German hospitals still go without IVM, HQ. The FDA pushes on EMA I guess .
Same here, I'm in the US got Delta last December, covid pneumonia and corticosteroids were forbidden along with antibiotics. Literally tried to kill me. Still fatigued! F-ing SOB'S!
At least the Frankfurt university clinic gave me I.v. Corticosteroids and because of pneumonia Antibiotics and Heparin. The feeling to suffocate was horrible. I needed 4 weeks Oxygen then , and had neurological problems ( walking , no smell ). 3 months at home . At Least in Germany the health insurance pays 50 % of your net income. Fatigue stayed and got worse this fall
Wow! You really got it bad. So sorry! Hope you're better soon, hang in there and keep fighting 💪
I am sorry to hear about your oxigen levels dropping. And i am sorry you had to go to hospital. That must have been stressful? I know Germany used to have very advanced health care system. The best in Europe. The important thing is you are getting better. It is been a long road to health. I think you were lucky that they used antibiotics because in Australia they were NOT part of the protocol. GP were FORBIDDEN to prescribe it. That is how they managed to KILL so many people.
Check out Arkmedick:
"That's what they withheld from the elderly that were diagnosed with "COVID pneumonia" because they were told not to treat. It was bacterial pneumonia. They died. If they hadn't had the test they would have had the tablets. #3tablets https://drugs.com/mtm/azithromycin-3-day-dose-pack.html…
Yes, they saved my life. But ..I had to order from Amazon Zink, Vit D, Vit C to help myself. They refused IVC.
I had it late september of this year. 2 days of fever, tiredness and extremely painful body (as if having been driven over by a truck). Fever gone on day 3 and body pain as well. Felt pretty good by then, but took about a week to really clear the symptoms. No bad cough or really sore throat at all. HCQ used from onset, plus rest. Hubby had higher fever, less body pain and was good in one week as well. 70 and 73.
Yes! That's exactly what I was telling friends and family "feel like I've been run over by a truck!". Just 2-3 days and then bounced back. Dry cough stayed around for another week or so..
I was laid up for a day and a half, fatigue, yes. The throat was like razorblades. Apart from that, nothing special.
Lucky you ;)
This was Omicron. As Gates said, it's a "natural vaccine." It's not serious, far from it.
The original did pose a threat to the old and comorbid and the rather unlucky, but the epidemiology shows it wasn't the Black Plague it was made out to be.
You most likely have post viral M.E/CFS. Brother got it after the flu five years ago. It can be brutal. Autoimmune disease. He manages it through a low glycemic index, anti-inflammatory wholefoods diet with anti-oxidants, low stress (cortisol seems to cause flare ups) and light exercise, regular sleep.
He was crippled with it at one point, for many months. Doing pretty good now, but it can suddenly kick in, even if just for a few hours.
Yes ..dizziness on/off-tiredness a lot
Reason I say it, brother had a specialist in M.E/CFS through his work. This fellow said he'd been to a "Long CoVID" conference where it was generally agreed Long CoVID was post viral M.E.
That's not to dismiss it in anyway. This condition can range from being overly fatigued to wheelchair bound and dribbling. Some cases are horrific and some don't recover.
In the UK, it's dismissed as a mental illness by the NHS. Seriously. It's an autoimmune disease, those antibodies go on a rampage attacking every fibre of a persons being. I've seen it. Terrible.
So, I'd take your research in that direction and get a diet and lifestyle going that will see it under control. Inflammation and cortisol are the enemy.
I Started ketogenic for 2 months now.
Yes ..Autoimmunity and Inflammation.
Toxic food and toxic chemicals have to go, but also toxic people. They cause severe stress and excess cortisol and inflammation. I noticed this in brother. Dealing with toxic people sets his M.E off. That's why I think there's cortisol involvement. At a guess.
Yes. I have to get tested for EBV. Might be reactivated. Even the doctors in Germany don’t do much if one got Long Covid. They have only 2-3 Long Covid special facilities / treatment in Germany and they are full.
Norovirus is scary . Im 2012 I got it and had a paralysis of my left eye within 1hr. Double vision. Clinic 1 week, home, clinic again with corticoids.. nothing helped. It took 6 months till I could see normal again
Seven years on, PTSD off it. 🤣 I watched it reduce hardened demolition men, from notorious East London gangster families, to squeaking little mice.
Not by the looks of what I see in shopping carts where I shop.
Exactly!
I am an unmasked, unvaccinated, interventional endoscopy nurse. I usually volunteer to circulate in covid cases because others are scared. I keep the up to date FLCCC protocol hanging in my vitamin cabinet. I have most of the first line therapies on hand at all times. Whenever I get sniffles, I start ivermectin and increase C and zinc for 5 days. I had COVID last week, positive on two different rapid tests. This was third round. Massive migraine headache for 6 days, nasal congestion for 2. I have never run fever longer than 24 hrs, have a sore throat, cough, shortness of breath or chest congestion with COVID. I do have a significant history of frequent migraines so I feel it does prey on our vulnerabilities. I avoid processed food, fast food, toxins in home and personal products. I’m still overweight and consume alcohol but otherwise relatively healthy. A week of RSV in 2020 was far worse for me than all three covid experiences combined. I considered it Covication from work and spent time enjoying my family.
My experience was just like yours and I too have a history of migraines. I also live with my 3 yo granddaughter who is in preschool and brings everything home and had RSV which was way worse.
I just want to know when people are going to get a grip & stop getting these shots? Three people I am aware of in my neighborhood just got boosters, gleefully I might ad. This is willful ignorance, this will never stop if the shots don’t stop.
Multi ‘boosting’ = Darwinism at work. The facile stupidity being erased isn’t genetic, but it is contagious.
Please stop wasting any energy on them - they are too far gone and will find out the hard way the consequences of being stupid and ignorant. Unless someone with some serious power keels over, this will sadly, continue.
Mark Twain: (paraphrase) Don't waste your time arguing with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I know it's heart-wrenching dealing with family /loved ones, but at some point it become every man for himself.
Yep, completely agree. Hence my comment to let them be. I have jabbed relatives and they jabbed their kids too. What can I say? I despair at the ignorance of the parents but it is what it is. I just pray that the kids do not end up paying the price for the stupidity of the parents.
Tragic but true .. l am now alone - my choice - downside = no contact with vaxed family members and friends. Upside = less likelihood of spike proteins spread, leaving me healthy enough (with supplements, excellent diet, exercise and mental stimulation, the piano helps) to continue to FIGHT this evil, using my photographic skills, uncovering so much if the dark satanic world THEY inhabit, watching and cataloguing geographical, socio economic and political changes and passing on information to others who pass it on to those who are taking direct action. It’s extremely risky, my life has been threatened more than once, l am constantly on the move .. BUT .. for me there is NO other option!
Wish to say to my fellow brothers and sisters, all active dissidents - YOU ARE AMAZING PEOPLE and l wish you the very best New Year possible - Stay safe my dear friends!
Yes "don't throw your pearls before the swine lest they turn and tear you to pieces". Sad but that's the place where I've arrived at with some folk because they go absolutely nuts if you mention anything other than the official BS.
I agree.
Yes indeed!
Yup. Sadly
I'm just saying it out loud now.
Clerks at convenience stores. Wherever
So what exactly are you saying?
If covid comes up in any fashion I just weave it into the conversation...kindly.
Or sometimes I'll "make" covid come up.
Be creative and avoid battles...and pick your battles.
Use humor. Self depracate
There's no magic bullet. Just be willing to say out loud what you know to be true.
thanks. i wasn't sure what you were saying so thanks for taking time to explain how you weave covid into conversation with anyone, whoever, wherever there is an opportunity (and back off if they get defensive, but gently plant the seed if you can). Encourage anyone asking questions to get no further jabs if they've taken any... things like that.
100%. Just like that. Well said
If they are full of glee then there is nothing you can do to help them.
Absolutely, leave them be - you have more chance of getting some sense out of brick wall than out these Covid zombies.
Correct.
Leslie, I was dropping off my grandkids off at home when I passed a house with six or eight people standing outside in 40 degree weather in the driveway like they were having some kind of meeting. All were masked and 6ft apart like good little sheep 🐑. They probably just got back from getting their booster shots and celebrating 🍾 😅
This won't stop,we just have to move on with out them I'm afraid.
It’s unreal. I think that you are right. Some people will never wake up.
The liberal over 55 crowd:
"I'm vaxxed and boosted and I'm fine. I have to have the shots to protect my aging parent."
Your jabs have 0% relevance in protecting your parent.
Absolutely. I told the vtards that if they were vax jabbed, then if it worked, as they claimed, were they not safe from me? Was not *I* the one at risk in this situation? And since I was fully happy taking that risk, their insanity and insistence it wouldn't work if I didn't also jab was foolish, not to mention downright illogical. Since when does it take every one to be jabbed for a jab to prevent disease? You are or you are NOT protected - you do not have 'milder disease' and be able to 'transmit'. You stop it cold. Therefore, the jab is NOT a vaccine. Simple. Elementary. But so far beyond their ability to reason out on their own. And now we know, also - which I knew then - NOT SAFE (experimental) and NOT EFFECTIVE (experimental).
Igor asked about health suggestions and whether Ivermectin is still working. I'm treating Covid patients currently and have been, and I wrote a very long post tonight but got an automated message I must shorten it, so I am going to break it up into several shorter posts. I want to tell you things that may be helpful for prevention or treatment, and maybe some bits will be things you didn't already know. I am going to fill you in on Ivermectin, Quercetin, Vitamin D, zinc, and "Black Cumin" = "Black seed" = Nigella sativa - but now that I am having to reorganize my posts plus now it is 2 a.m., I don't know if I can finish tonight and whether I can get them all sent in together or whether some may end up being sent at different times and get separated. If you have interest, but sure to look for each topic.
About Ivermectin. Yes, it is still working currently and I think it will continue to work because I have read that it works for all RNA viruses, not only Covid. There is research that shows it will work for any RNA viruses which would include flu, colds, and a number of other viruses. But you do have to use a strong enough dose.
Currently the recommendation from the FLCCC physicians is to use 0.4 mg. per kg of body weight for treatment, but for more severe cases, 0.6 mg. per kg. So - if you weight 150 pounds, you can use an online calculator to find that your weight in kg. is 68 kg. 0.4 x 68 = 27.2 mg. Maybe in the first year of pandemic, a telemed doctor prescribed 14 mg. as your calculated dose but now, using the 0.4 multiplier, your dose is about double what it was before. If your dose in the past was 15 mg., it's 30 mg. now, for treatment. When I first started prescribing Ivermectin I was using 0.2 mg./kg for treatment, and it worked, I kept people out of the hospital and had good results at that dose, but since all the variants started going round the recommendaions of the FLCCC physicians have been to use 0.4 mg/kg- 0.6 mg./kg, so I currently use the 0.4 multiplier for treatment. which is every day until well. Usually 5 days, but could be a couple weeks, so you take it every day until well. For prevention, it is still 0.2 mg. per kg, once or twice a week. I'll get to that but separately.
If you go to FLCCC.net you can look up protocols for prevention and for early outpatient treatment to see their recommendations and also they have some guidelines in which they explain why you use one thing or another and how much. One thing with Ivermectin, you absolutely want to take it AFTER a meal for best results. If you take it while there is still food in your stomach as soon as you finish eating, then you get a higher level than you would have otherwise, and you need the higher level. The food and digestive enzymes help the Ivermectin to absorb. The original FDA info says take with water, but those who are true Covid experts say, after eating. RIght after eating, not like an hour or two later, but right away.
To obtain Ivermectin, if you go to the FLCCC website, just type FLCCC.net into your browser - you will get there but the URL will end up morphing into something longer, but once there, look for a tab to click to "Find a provider" and some providers are licensed in many states or even all states and can prescribe by telemed for anyone. AND there will be listings by state for those prescribers who are only one particular state, so find a doctor or other prescriber who is licensed in your state, and then contact them about getting Ivermectin.
But where to fill it - before you talk to the prescriber, also look up to "find a pharmacy" that will sell it. In pretty much every state you can find a few pharmacies that will sell Ivermectin - most will not - but you want to find out what pharmacy you want to use so you can tell the telemed doctor where to send the prescription. It's possible there will NOT be even one pharmacy in your city that will sell Ivermectin, but there may be a pharmacy in another city that will ship it to you if your prescriber sends the prescrption there, OR there are some mail order pharmacies that will fill Ivermectin and are licensed to mail to other states, OR if you live close to Tennessee and don't mind the drive, if you go to Tennessee you are supposed to be able to obtain Ivermectin without a prescription so you could just go to a pharmacy to buy it. I suppose maybe call ahead to the pharmacy where you would go, and maybe check for Tennessee pharmacies on the FLCCC's list - but it is legal in Tennessee to get it without prescription. So then you don't have to get a telemed doctor to prescribe it for you. But you have to actually be in Tennessee to obtain it, and actually I don't know if there is any restriction on people driving in from other states, so I suppose check to be sure about that.
What Ivermectin does, it will work for any RNA virus, which includes all the coronaviruses, so it will work for Covid, and also flu, and colds, and some other things. What it does, it will prevent the Covid virus from getting into the nucelus of your cells, if it does not get into the nucleus, the virus cannot replicate. But, in case it had already gotten in, the medication does something else to stop it from replicating anyway. So it is known at the cellular level, that Ivermectin is going to work, and it usually does, though the only way to prevent the virus from replicating is to stop it before it replicates, so you want to start treating BEFORE the test results come back several days later - if you think you have Covid, just START and o not wait. That is the whole key. If you wait a week, you have totally missed your very best opportunity to have a mild case and be well fast. The virus only multiples for about one week, maybe a bit longer, but pretty much one week. Then, the virus dies but you can still react to dead virus. Whatever happens after one week - those cytokine storms that put people in the hospital on ventilators - that is your immune trying to kill the virus that is already dead, overreacting and actually trying to kill you instead. If you get to that stage, for sure you need steroids, and you can also keep going with Ivermectin because it does actually do several different things to help you, and it works at all stages of the illness.
But your chance of wrapping this up in a week or sooner depends on having enough Vitamin D on board at the start, getting antivirals like Ivermectin into your system fast, right away, 0.4 mg/kg, I have also seen recommendations that you can use HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) along with Ivermectin and that was particularly good with one of the new variants - but - you definitely want an MD to prescribe and advise you, HCQ is prescription, and the biggest thing is to start immediately, and do NOT exceed 400 mg. per day which is the max safe dose of HCQ. A problem in many of the studies is they were overdosing the people after starting treatment too late to do any good, then overdosing. 200 mg. twice a day is normal for HCQ, not ever more than that.
Okay, it is way past 2 a.m. I am quitting for tonight, but if you check back over the weekend, I will give you some additional info on the other supplements that I think are helpful. Some of the things you have no doubt heard, and possibly a few items will be things you didn't know - good night.
Good bless you and thank you for this very practical and useful advice.
Sorry about God being changed to Good, which is Who God is, but very often, even being very careful with typing, I see that “God” is not a word that Apple likes.
I turned off autocorrect because I got sick of Apple trying to tell me what I wanted to type...
Well done! Now, why didn’t I think of that? Happy new year!!
May God bless you greatly in the New Year as well!
I was able to email a pharmacy in TN and have Ivermectin mailed to me. This was about a month ago. Hubs and I have had terrible bout of alpha and a nothing burger omicron but in case ol’ Geert is right and a stronger variant is coming, I wanted to be prepared.
Did they require a prescription? If no, could you give the name of the place?
Nope. TN law did away with that. When I’m home I will look up the contact info on the bottle.
Thank you- that would be much appreciated!
thank you for this information. I will look for your other posts in this thread.
As Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche made quite clear, one of these variants will eventually evolve into a killing machine for the vaxed. Who knows, maybe it is this one.
My thoughts exactly. Waiting for the one that allows the virus into the lower respiratory tract.
I hope not, so far it seems a bit more severe and that's it
He already declared that it was "five past midnight" - so could be.
Phil, we should all hope Geert is very very wrong. A large truly pandemic level event would likely destroy the supply chains around the world and increasing death thru famines. But to be honest, for the dedicated globalists and satanists, they want to destroy humanity.
The thing is, we do not need a variant from hell to take down people's health, several reinfections per year are bad enough.
I am seeing friends at work and on the train that are seemingly coughing regularly and ask them if they are ok and they say 'its nothing' or its dry or its an allergy. this means to me that a lot of people are living with ill health now. those that arent are beginning to ramp up the fear meter again. Read that Boston schools are going to require masks again...oh 'just temporarily...'. thats a bad sign. yesterday i spent a several hours outside and I must have heard probably a half dozen ambulances in the area.
Unfortunately he hasen't been wrong yet.
We may reach this conclusion anyway, just with the vax damage accruing as it is.
How about we start letting in a bunch of tourists from China? Oh wait..
A big THANK YOU to everyone on this substack who is sharing what they're doing to get through all of this insanity from a supplement standpoint. I'm interested in what everyone is trying, and have shared what I'm doing.
We have to stick together and help each other through this, since it seems we can't trust the majority of the medical industry.
Agree 100%! This community is amazing and so informed!
Time to buy a nebulizer for hydrogen peroxide & Providone Iodine therapy once these infectious new variants arrive. The lungs need protected.
Even us unvaxxed will need these tools to survive.
The CDC is lying. I know XBB showed up last July in NC. Two people I know had it. Had to go to court to get the sequencing.
Wow, NC, Gee I wonder what labs or who might be in NC.... huh, what rhymes with cleric....
Ralph Baric... Chapel Hill
Fucker. Wearing a red dress to his hanging, along with the short Italian guy.
The CDC lying?! You don’t say!🙄
First thing I thought:
How can we believe their data now?
Just being nosey but why did they want the sequencing?
Tell me to piss off if I am out of order here.
Controlled release of 'farmed' bug... to ramp up panic and move the have nothing eat bugs plan along...
My thoughts exactly, Greg.
They wanted the online friend to sign a release or they wouldn't tell them what they had. They refused to sign the non disclosure agreement.
My current protocol is
Olive leaf extract
Neem
Colostrum
Zinc
Bayberry Root
D3
Oil of oregano
NAC
Haven't had covid or anything else in three years.
Mg! Vit D needs Mg for good action
And Vit K1 and K2.
Bayberry root? That’s new to me. Will have to look it up!
Well done, sir. I also take apolactoferrin and CoQ10.
How much you take?
There are different forms of Mg.. I take a product from a German company ...edubily . It’s a
mix of 3 types of Mg. ( different bioavailability )
Copy / translated :
🔺
2:1:1 Mixture of magnesium glycinate, trimagnesium dicitrate and magnesium carbonate.
All three forms are metabolized differently and supply the body with magnesium via different pathways and sustainably:
🔺Magnesium glycinate - magnesium bound to the amino acid glycine - most likely enters the body through the intestinal amino acid transporter. This ensures incredible tolerability, even at higher doses. And it prevents potential interactions with other micronutrients or ingredients from food.
🔺Trimagnesium Dictrate is one of the best known forms of magnesium - here magnesium is present as a salt, bound to citrates. It exhibits superior bioavailability and flows very quickly in the blood. People often notice this by a "pleasant relaxed feeling" after taking magnesium citrate.
🔺Last but not least, the product contains the inorganic magnesium carbonate. Formerly in disrepute, it is increasingly appreciated as a "slow magnesium" that provides the body with magnesium in a very tolerable and long-lasting way. In addition, the compound provides carbonate, which acts as a natural acid buffer in the body.
We also add small amounts of vitamin B6 to the product, as there is evidence that B6 can improve magnesium absorption or retention.
Translation
2 capsules
https://edubily.de/products/magnesium-komplex-kapseln
With Covid I like magnesium threonate. It’s the only mag to cross the blood brain barrier.
Yessss♥️ I encapsule it myself as it is cheaper . Mgthreonate is quite expensive in Germany
How much is it? In American dollars?
90 capsules : 16 €.
I guess you can can in US the different versions maybe cheaper
Finishing up our second Covid round. First was last January. Treated with therapeutics and recovered nicely. Same thing this time, but.... have what I call the Covid snot clot this time. Finished IVM/HCQ/doxycycline/prednisone/Zelenko protocol (ongoing), but sinus congestion and infection lingering so on to azithromycin. Lot of people I know who are recovering from this strain trending here have the same issue of lingering sinus congestion. Don’t know which flavor it is, but it is annoying. Yeah, my wife and I are PureBloods, and in our seventh decade. I do have (mild) emphysema so anything impacting my lungs is of some concern.
I've had some sort of allergy/bronchial thing hanging around for weeks that got bad when our furnace went out.
What has worked for me is pseudophederine (prescribed by allergist, 30mg 2x daily) OTC cherry cold/flu with Acetaminophen and 1600mg of NAC daily At the very least try 1600mg of NAC.
Acetaminophen depletes glutathione...not good if you have covid.
At least the NAC restores the deplete glutathione though. Better yet, take aspirin instead of acetaminophen, as it also reduces inflammation and the chance of blood clots. But aspirin depletes Vitamin C, so take extra Vitamin C to replenish that.
Seriously have thought of moving to Africa where natural (herd) immunity has occurred. Not going to happen here (Oz).
Africa is the jab target of WEF
They call it "vaccine equity" - how sinister
Happy New year!
Yes, it's horrifying. I hope the African people don't buy into it!
Hell no matter what color you are you should be afraid of Whitey's medicines.
if you watch or listen to Dr. John Campbell, this was explained. Africans do not carry the neanderthal gene, as many europeans and US people DO - which increases your chance of having serious effects of covid. so before you move, find out if you have the gene.
I expect many Africans are taking hcq as prophylaxis for malaria. I always took it on my trips to subsaharan Africa. They take a lot of ivermectin too for river blindness.
Almost no one who lives there takes anything as prophylaxis for malaria - they sleep with nets, get malaria, then treat it. I’ve been working in Uganda for 14 years and have never seen either HCQ or ivermectin at a pharmacy. (We picked up some ivermectin in Panamá this spring but I couldn’t find any to buy in Uganda.) When the govt threatened teachers who didn’t vax (and they only had hundreds of thousands of doses anyway, not millions) many just quit. They’d closed the schools and kept them closed for almost 2 years (beginning of April ‘20 until Jan 28 ‘22) so most had had to get other work to survive. (So now the already terrible eduction “system” is much worse...) I work in Uganda’s largest slum, in Kampala, and don’t know anyone who got any kind of Covid vax. I told everyone I could not to get it, but they were highly skeptical anyway. They don’t get childhood vaccinations so it’s not part of the culture and they don’t trust them much overall. Their bodies also have a lot of much more serious illnesses to fight like typhoid and malaria. (2 kids in one of the rural schools we work with have died just over the Christmas break from malaria.) One friend and his wife got Covid, and an elderly pastor friend, and that’s it that I know of. And NOT because they do anything at all for prevention. They can’t afford it.
Cool and informative report!
There is a great correlation between no covid and IVM regularly used in central Africa, but high covid in S Africa and the Sahel/Sahara where it is not. Convinced the Japanese medical authorities to allow IVM as treatement.
Possibly also to do with parasites being more common. A study from Ethiopia (iirc) showed higher helminthic loads correlated with lower severity covid.
I’d guess ivermectin might help with several of those parasites.
There are quite a few "lifestyle" reasons that would argue against a move to anywhere in Africa, but we need not discuss them here 😎
Get on with life.
Bingo !!!
Amen to that!
Ha ha exactly. Live in NY too and the maskers are everywhere lining up for jab #4! They don’t want to read or know anything unless it comes from CNN, ugh.
Indeed. And the virus has already played its best cards by now, practically everyone has been exposed to earlier strains, and it is now effectively the new common cold for the most part (except for those who have VAIDS, of course).
Well-said.
Wasn't this predicted, that the vaccine rearranged people's immune systems to not be able to develop immunity and thus be more susceptible to variants, at the same time as it bred variants. And if that's permanent, the vaxxed people will be getting Covid the rest of their lives.
Correct?
Repeated jabs are changing the body’s antibody response, allowing for repeated breakthrough infections. Though perhaps milder, virus infections are not being cleared. If this holds true over time, immune systems are being irreversibly compromised.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798
Jeff Childers did an excellent stack on this (IgG4) since Christmas. He explained it all very clearly.
Is this the future: “Ah, I would like to marry you but I need to know if your family has a history Jab Jab Jab?”