I have noticed that Dr. M no longer seems to tweet about Quercetin and I was wondering if he still recommends it. Did you discuss it with him recently? I found his track record to be impressive.
I have noticed that Dr. M no longer seems to tweet about Quercetin and I was wondering if he still recommends it. Did you discuss it with him recently? I found his track record to be impressive.
I never followed Dr. Moskowitz on twitter, so I don't know about his tweets, but when I first read his article about Quercetin, I emailed him actually through Researchgate, and he answered all my questions, and I looked up articles about Quercetin, and my husband and I, and our daughter, all started using it for prevention - he had told me he and his med students and residents were all taking 500 mg. one twice a day for prevention; he said they were treating Covid patients and none of them got Covid, so he was also recommending that to his patients. Then he was treating patients with 500 mg. two capsules twice a day. So that is how I have done it even though I have noticed some of the other doctors who publish are using lesser doses of Quercetin. But he said nobody was having any side effects or difficulty at those doses and it seemed to work, and that is my experience. But then I recontacted him, probably within the past couple months, so, many variants later, and he said it is still working, still has not had problems with it, no side effects to worry about that he has seen, and again, it's on that list from the FDA for "Generally Recognized as Safe" - though as I think I mentioned, I would not give it to anyone on the blood thinner Coumadin because it is necessary to have the Coumadin levels exactly right, and there is a reason that Quercetin might affect the Coumadin levels. But overall, still working, still safe. I didn't read about Coumadin being an issue and he didn't say, but there is a reason I would not recommend it. But he said he is still using the same doses, except sometimes for treatment he just uses 500 mg one twice a day, and then increasing if necessary. He says it is working great for treatment and he thinks it may not be necessary to go as high with the dose as what he had originally used. I usually go with the original doses, though. A lot of people come to me later, after their regular primary doctor did not do anything useful for them, and by the time they get to me, it's a bit later in the course and maybe a bit more severe, and I don't want to monkey around with a lower dose, I have stuck with his original dose, but usually I can access Ivermectin for my patients, so I can't say for sure - is Quercetin really making a difference? Because there is a lot of data on Ivermectin indicating it works, and I've seen that in my patients, so if we also using Quercetin, I don't know for sure if Quercetin is adding benefit or not. But Dr. M. originally used this as a sole treatment and it worked, before anyone was talking about Ivermectin. And my husband and I originally used this as our prevention before I had ever heard of Ivermectin. But he's been using it as a main treatment and main prevention - he was a little less confident more recently about prevention, and I didn't really press him on that - but I'm thinking, if it works for treatment, why would not also help with prevention. Anyway, I think when people do not have access to Ivermectin or lack of access due to cost, Quercetin is a good one to use since you don't need a prescription for it. The biggest drawback I've seen in using it is that none of our local health food stores or pharmacies carry it locally, so you have to order it through Amazon or some other online store and if you need it today, you don't need to order it and have it arrive a week or 10 days later. Plus the cost has gone up some but it is still relatively affordable. But because I have not seen it locally here, I don't always tell my patients about it actually. I am more likely to give them Ivermectin if we can get it, and then IF they have Quercetin or can get it, I recommend it as an add-on. Where Dr. M. has used it first, and as a main treatment and prevention. Oh, but there are several reasons why I am certain it will continue to work. 1) Quercetin is an anti-inflammatory, and Covid is an inflammatory illness, so it is going to help some. 2) Quercetin, I understand, is also an anti-oxidant, and with Covid, you need anti-oxidants to protect from damage that would otherwise occur. [So #1 and #2 are not really directly trying to kill off the virus, but helping to control the illness itself. The virus is there, but it helps to calm the inflammation in your body, and acting at the molecular level to stop tissue damage. But, #3 - Quercetin is said to be an ionophore which opens the gates in your cells to let zinc get into your cells. Zinc has been shown to hinder replication of the Covid virus in your cells, and actually zinc stops something like 17 different viruses that we know of. So, you want to take zinc 30 to maybe up to 50 mg. a day during "prevention" but for treatment, if you have Covid, you take 50 mg. of zinc twice a day. And Quercetin helps zinc to get into your cells so zinc can do its job. For these reasons, I think no matter what the variant, Quercetin will be helpful though you want to take it with zinc and you probably want to ideally use a mix of things anyway and not rely on Q. solely. But it's not like the virus might get reistant to it or something, because it's action is not to kill the virus directly, just to do what it naturally does in our bodies. And yes, I think Dr. Moskowitz is amazing. I got off twitter a while back for several reasons, but now that McCulough and others are back on, I am on twitter again, so I should follow Dr. M. and read his old tweets. Well, and very nice that Igor is back on twitter also. I like the new management there. :-)
Just a note: Zinc in doses over 40 mg per day will deplete copper, so that ought to be supplemented in parallel. Then again, perhaps just a few days of excess zinc intake does not have a substantial impact on the copper levels.
Thanks so much for that very useful and comprehensive response. Your posts are front line boots on the ground information-very important to people like myself that don't have any close reliable contacts in the medical community.
I have noticed that Dr. M no longer seems to tweet about Quercetin and I was wondering if he still recommends it. Did you discuss it with him recently? I found his track record to be impressive.
I never followed Dr. Moskowitz on twitter, so I don't know about his tweets, but when I first read his article about Quercetin, I emailed him actually through Researchgate, and he answered all my questions, and I looked up articles about Quercetin, and my husband and I, and our daughter, all started using it for prevention - he had told me he and his med students and residents were all taking 500 mg. one twice a day for prevention; he said they were treating Covid patients and none of them got Covid, so he was also recommending that to his patients. Then he was treating patients with 500 mg. two capsules twice a day. So that is how I have done it even though I have noticed some of the other doctors who publish are using lesser doses of Quercetin. But he said nobody was having any side effects or difficulty at those doses and it seemed to work, and that is my experience. But then I recontacted him, probably within the past couple months, so, many variants later, and he said it is still working, still has not had problems with it, no side effects to worry about that he has seen, and again, it's on that list from the FDA for "Generally Recognized as Safe" - though as I think I mentioned, I would not give it to anyone on the blood thinner Coumadin because it is necessary to have the Coumadin levels exactly right, and there is a reason that Quercetin might affect the Coumadin levels. But overall, still working, still safe. I didn't read about Coumadin being an issue and he didn't say, but there is a reason I would not recommend it. But he said he is still using the same doses, except sometimes for treatment he just uses 500 mg one twice a day, and then increasing if necessary. He says it is working great for treatment and he thinks it may not be necessary to go as high with the dose as what he had originally used. I usually go with the original doses, though. A lot of people come to me later, after their regular primary doctor did not do anything useful for them, and by the time they get to me, it's a bit later in the course and maybe a bit more severe, and I don't want to monkey around with a lower dose, I have stuck with his original dose, but usually I can access Ivermectin for my patients, so I can't say for sure - is Quercetin really making a difference? Because there is a lot of data on Ivermectin indicating it works, and I've seen that in my patients, so if we also using Quercetin, I don't know for sure if Quercetin is adding benefit or not. But Dr. M. originally used this as a sole treatment and it worked, before anyone was talking about Ivermectin. And my husband and I originally used this as our prevention before I had ever heard of Ivermectin. But he's been using it as a main treatment and main prevention - he was a little less confident more recently about prevention, and I didn't really press him on that - but I'm thinking, if it works for treatment, why would not also help with prevention. Anyway, I think when people do not have access to Ivermectin or lack of access due to cost, Quercetin is a good one to use since you don't need a prescription for it. The biggest drawback I've seen in using it is that none of our local health food stores or pharmacies carry it locally, so you have to order it through Amazon or some other online store and if you need it today, you don't need to order it and have it arrive a week or 10 days later. Plus the cost has gone up some but it is still relatively affordable. But because I have not seen it locally here, I don't always tell my patients about it actually. I am more likely to give them Ivermectin if we can get it, and then IF they have Quercetin or can get it, I recommend it as an add-on. Where Dr. M. has used it first, and as a main treatment and prevention. Oh, but there are several reasons why I am certain it will continue to work. 1) Quercetin is an anti-inflammatory, and Covid is an inflammatory illness, so it is going to help some. 2) Quercetin, I understand, is also an anti-oxidant, and with Covid, you need anti-oxidants to protect from damage that would otherwise occur. [So #1 and #2 are not really directly trying to kill off the virus, but helping to control the illness itself. The virus is there, but it helps to calm the inflammation in your body, and acting at the molecular level to stop tissue damage. But, #3 - Quercetin is said to be an ionophore which opens the gates in your cells to let zinc get into your cells. Zinc has been shown to hinder replication of the Covid virus in your cells, and actually zinc stops something like 17 different viruses that we know of. So, you want to take zinc 30 to maybe up to 50 mg. a day during "prevention" but for treatment, if you have Covid, you take 50 mg. of zinc twice a day. And Quercetin helps zinc to get into your cells so zinc can do its job. For these reasons, I think no matter what the variant, Quercetin will be helpful though you want to take it with zinc and you probably want to ideally use a mix of things anyway and not rely on Q. solely. But it's not like the virus might get reistant to it or something, because it's action is not to kill the virus directly, just to do what it naturally does in our bodies. And yes, I think Dr. Moskowitz is amazing. I got off twitter a while back for several reasons, but now that McCulough and others are back on, I am on twitter again, so I should follow Dr. M. and read his old tweets. Well, and very nice that Igor is back on twitter also. I like the new management there. :-)
Just a note: Zinc in doses over 40 mg per day will deplete copper, so that ought to be supplemented in parallel. Then again, perhaps just a few days of excess zinc intake does not have a substantial impact on the copper levels.
Thanks so much for that very useful and comprehensive response. Your posts are front line boots on the ground information-very important to people like myself that don't have any close reliable contacts in the medical community.