Just excellent, Igor. Thank you for the time and effort it takes to crunch the numbers. And I agree with Andrew below that the more likely reason for this clown show is just garden variety incompetence. Probably mixed with a huge dose of hubris, stupidly believing that they had a thorough enough understanding of the human immune syste…
Just excellent, Igor. Thank you for the time and effort it takes to crunch the numbers. And I agree with Andrew below that the more likely reason for this clown show is just garden variety incompetence. Probably mixed with a huge dose of hubris, stupidly believing that they had a thorough enough understanding of the human immune system to force an inadequately tested product onto the population.
Hopefully they'll leave this data source available to you, but I wouldn't count on it. Governments, and their pharmaceutical pals, tend not to like being embarrassed.
Thank you for the compliment. I believe that this nonsensical situation will resolve in a few months with an extreme embarrassment to various governments, momentous changes in culture and politics, and so on. Not sure if PHE reporting will survive for long enough but this is a time limited situation.
I also do not think that our rulers are that stupid, I believe that there is more criminality than a lot of people assume.
Here's the thing. Igor is talking about how the media is complaining that this is fueling the arguments of "anti-vaxxers," because well, it is. The data shows that this is all spiraling out of control. If the government all of a sudden stops reporting this data, do you think people will ask more or less questions about it? Right now I'd be willing to bet most people in the UK aren't even aware of the fact that their death and hospitalization rates / 100k are climbing relative to the unvaccinated. The only people talking about or looking into this are really the people that are already biased against the COVID/vaccine propaganda. You never know how many people you'll turn on to the cause if they stop reporting, and people start informing their friends, family, and groups on the internet that they're hiding the data now.
This is why we need to share this as widely as possible. We should invite disagreement and even ridicule from Covid cultists, as being in an argument might actually open up a mind or two. If you open one person's mind in a day, this is a day well spent.
I find that arguing with COVID cultists ie people who talk nonsense like "Colin Powell died because YOU DIDN'T take the vaccine (which doesn't prevent transmission)" is a complete waste of time. I think the only way anything changes with those people is if their family and friends begin dying, which makes these "rare cases" seem less rare to them. With people who are on the fence, or at least are willing to argue with you based on scientific studies and facts, I find debating with these people is worthwhile. After a while, they usually don't have much to say, because even when you go to the primary sources like the Pfizer Trial, there's so much concerning and misleading data that it HAS to make these people ask questions about all of this.
I have the opposite opinion. Any word out there is helpful. Even if you do not change mind of a rabid Covid cultist, you might plant a small seed of doubt in their head. Or you might place a seed of doubt in someone else who is near.
Embarrassing a Covid cultist with well prepared data may make them less likely to spread their misinformation in the future.
Also speaking out defeats the appearance of consensus, which convinces the weak minded.
Just excellent, Igor. Thank you for the time and effort it takes to crunch the numbers. And I agree with Andrew below that the more likely reason for this clown show is just garden variety incompetence. Probably mixed with a huge dose of hubris, stupidly believing that they had a thorough enough understanding of the human immune system to force an inadequately tested product onto the population.
Hopefully they'll leave this data source available to you, but I wouldn't count on it. Governments, and their pharmaceutical pals, tend not to like being embarrassed.
Thank you for the compliment. I believe that this nonsensical situation will resolve in a few months with an extreme embarrassment to various governments, momentous changes in culture and politics, and so on. Not sure if PHE reporting will survive for long enough but this is a time limited situation.
I also do not think that our rulers are that stupid, I believe that there is more criminality than a lot of people assume.
Here's the thing. Igor is talking about how the media is complaining that this is fueling the arguments of "anti-vaxxers," because well, it is. The data shows that this is all spiraling out of control. If the government all of a sudden stops reporting this data, do you think people will ask more or less questions about it? Right now I'd be willing to bet most people in the UK aren't even aware of the fact that their death and hospitalization rates / 100k are climbing relative to the unvaccinated. The only people talking about or looking into this are really the people that are already biased against the COVID/vaccine propaganda. You never know how many people you'll turn on to the cause if they stop reporting, and people start informing their friends, family, and groups on the internet that they're hiding the data now.
This is why we need to share this as widely as possible. We should invite disagreement and even ridicule from Covid cultists, as being in an argument might actually open up a mind or two. If you open one person's mind in a day, this is a day well spent.
I find that arguing with COVID cultists ie people who talk nonsense like "Colin Powell died because YOU DIDN'T take the vaccine (which doesn't prevent transmission)" is a complete waste of time. I think the only way anything changes with those people is if their family and friends begin dying, which makes these "rare cases" seem less rare to them. With people who are on the fence, or at least are willing to argue with you based on scientific studies and facts, I find debating with these people is worthwhile. After a while, they usually don't have much to say, because even when you go to the primary sources like the Pfizer Trial, there's so much concerning and misleading data that it HAS to make these people ask questions about all of this.
I have the opposite opinion. Any word out there is helpful. Even if you do not change mind of a rabid Covid cultist, you might plant a small seed of doubt in their head. Or you might place a seed of doubt in someone else who is near.
Embarrassing a Covid cultist with well prepared data may make them less likely to spread their misinformation in the future.
Also speaking out defeats the appearance of consensus, which convinces the weak minded.