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Jestre's avatar

I hate relying on my individual experience... but I know many double vaxxed and boosted people getting reinfected lately. But as an unvaccinated person, I have been fine even after being in the same room with COVID positive people for extended periods of time.

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AJ Nock's avatar

Oh dude, as far as anecdotal experience goes, the shots may as well be covid super spreaders. Now obviously I'm going to have some confirmation bias, that would be impossible to discount at this point (after the way us unvaccinated have been treated, you bet we got a chip on our shoulders). But in my workplace omicron came and seemingly only affected the vaccinated. Each of us dirty unclean unvaccinated worked next to, carpooled with, ate lunch with, etc. vaccinated and covid positive people who would then end up taking time off because of their illness. I think I maybe had 24hrs of mild symptoms a couple months ago, but that's it, and the other unvaccinated haven't mentioned anything to me and haven't taken any time off work (I'm sure the boss must have noticed who was and who wasn't getting sick - he asked for our vax status so they could segregate the xmas party in December, so everyone knows who is and isn't jabbed).

Maybe it's just coincidence but it was very "in your face" at my workplace. You couldn't ignore the disparity in who actually got sick with covid if you know who took the shots and who didn't. I think the racial disparity between the vaxed and unvaxed must also have made people uncomfortable - I'm the only white unvaccinated person at my workplace.

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Jomokau's avatar

@AJ

Nice to get a political perspective from your side. I live in Namibia and naturally us blacks don't trust authorities hence our low vax rates.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

People in Namibia are smart and don't trust the government for a good reason, you are the lucky ones

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Zade's avatar

Where I live in US a lot of blacks don't want the shots. Too much anecdotal and first person news out there of terrible side effects, plus history of bad treatment of blacks by US medical establishment.

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Daithi's avatar

Much the same in many of the Caribbean islands. People have seen too many side effects; sudden deaths from cardiac arrest and stroke, and the no jab no jab kicking in to force many that had refused.

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DWB's avatar

People have talked about the uptick in mortality of people 25-34 at around the time the boosters came out in August, 2021. I compared white deaths to black deaths - there seems to be a bigger jump in white deaths at that time, I presume because more whites got boosted.

I also compared white men to white women, and there seemed to be a bigger jump in men's deaths.

These are the charts I made:

https://imgur.com/3rh08Pk

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And now, it's the whites who are lined up and jabbed. Fun times!

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Castigator's avatar

No job? No jab. Simple, safe and effective.

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John Davison's avatar

Karma I believe...

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Bandit's avatar

You are very smart!

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Robert's avatar

They’re coming for you, please spread the word to refuse the vaxes. They’re building the plants to produce over there. I think in Uganda they face 6 mths in prison for refusing the jab

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Jomokau's avatar

True they're trying very hard. Us socalled Anti-vaxxers are also hard at work spreading the message. True they're building a vaccine plant in South Africa but I doubt their vax rate will go much higher than the current 30%. Those taking the vax now are being forced by employers or universities, for students who are registering.

Uganda is ruled by a dictator Museveni, hence they've little freedom of choice there, but they're currently at 30%. I suspect they'll plateau around 40%.

In Namibia where I live we're at 20% but I think it has already peaked. We put up a huge fight after the Government tried to introduce mandates, then they gave up.

Thing is it's very difficult to enforce mandates in Africa bcoz our societies are setup differently. For example most people are self employed through the informal sector so employee mandates don't affect them.

Social safety nets like welfare grants, unemployment benefits, housing projects, Medicare that are common in the developed countries are none existent in most of Africa. Most people also don't have bank accounts.

So the African governments' hands are tied in terms of levers to pull, despite best efforts from WHO, and globalists to push vaccines down our throats.

In fact Nigeria recently destroyed 1 million expired AstraZeneca vaccine doses due to poor uptake.

In Namibia we also destroyed a few batches.

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Robert's avatar

That’s brilliant news, I wish people in the UK would have thought before accepting the kill shots. I heard the WHO were applying pressure to Nigeria to boost vax take up or lose funding. I also heard of the African leaders who died after refusing the Covavax. Stay strong, as long as you are aware, it’s a fight for our lives

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Jomokau's avatar

Yes quite a few African leaders died mysteriously, the most prominent was Tanzania's president Magufuli who was vehemently opposed to Covid19 vaccines.

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Castigator's avatar

A friend of mine with wife, both jabbed top to bottom, recently went to South Africa, with a view to visit Namibia. Took a covid test before flying in but on arrival found out they needed local tests. They came back positive, so instead of Namibia, Cape Town for the rest of their trip. I did not laugh but I could have.

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A.Itoje's avatar

How long ago was their trip?

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Jomokau's avatar

Ok but Namibia relaxed the rules last week. If you're vaccinated no need to take a Covid19 test.

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A.Itoje's avatar

If they travelled before last week from the date of your comment then restrictions were in place preventing them from travelling.

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Castigator's avatar

Too late for them! But good to know.

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Jomokau's avatar

Yeah I actually studied in Norway for 2 years on a scholarship paid for by the Norwegian government. So am familiar with Scandinavia. Very good people.

My observation throughout this pandemic is that countries that have very easy going, law abiding citizens are also easier to oppress and enforce government mandates. Just look at what's happening in Canada.

Other observation is that the anti vax mandate protests in the Western world were just too "peaceful and civilised", hence it was easy for the governments to simply ignore.

You're welcome to visit Namibia. 👐

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Jomokau's avatar

Yep, I studied at an international college in Flekke.

Red Cross Nordic United World College.

I had a very good experience.

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Canny Granny's avatar

You are wise.

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YYR's avatar

Interestingly, the black population in New Orleans is heavily vaxxed and terrified of the coof because of their (misplaced) trust in partisan political hacks and their churches urging them to protect themselves. The city is still under vax mandate for schools and restaurants, and indoor masking. 😒

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Here in NYC we have lots of vax ads targeted at assorted ethnic groups or youth.. They have preachers and community leaders doing pitches.. some ads even challenge the hesitancy head on saying things like "many people are suspicious of vax developed so quickly but..." it is a vile, manipulative abuse of trust

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AJ Nock's avatar

For what it's worth, I'm in Montreal. And the black coworkers I'm talking about are largely immigrants - Africa, Carribean and Haiti. It might be a different story with Canadian born black folks I dunno.

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Vxi7's avatar

This is how it happened from December until 3 weeks ago and suddenly very few unvaccinated ones we got covid almost all of us within a few days! At least we were the very last ones of the group! Let's see how it goes after this.

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AnonD's avatar

The jabbed not only seem to be reinfected with COVID -- they seem to be having a host of other recurring illnesses as well.

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Beverley's avatar

I have five close friends\family unvaccinated none of whom have ever had covid, or if they have they were asymptomatic.

A neighbour, boosted to go on holiday had to have emergency surgery abroad, multiple clots surrounding his heart. Has been home about a month, tested positive a few days ago.

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Candis's avatar

4! Four covid jabbed people in my area have had the clots in the heart issue!! Two of them I know personally, (one of them just out of the hospital over the weekend) and they are young (40's) with children!

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Zade's avatar

Horrible

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Igor Chudov's avatar

same here

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Daithi's avatar

Mike Yeadon referenced a study that was done in the US some months back. Would have to do some digging to find it again, but the basic conclusion was that the adverse reactions could be traced back to certain batches that were used in some states in the US but not in others - hence the apparent lack of ADR's in some locales v high rates in other places.

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Jenny Simon's avatar

Yes. Howbad.org I think is the link. Expose also did a database.

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Jeff C's avatar

I'll chime in here too, my two teenage boys, my wife, and I are all unvaxxed. Not only have we not had Covid, but aside from a two-day cold my son had, we haven't been sick in two years. We have taken no social distancing precautions but have been taking vitamin D and zinc throughout. We have the FLCCC protocol on hand but have not needed it.

It really does look like the vax not only drove variants but also did long-term harm to the immunity of folks who received it. What's infuriating is that this was all predicted, none of this is a new phenomena.

BTW, great work Igor in fleshing out yet another hidden tidbit in the data. I think you are exactly right in the the arbitrary 60 day window is hiding reinfections. It's similar to how the 14 day lag before someone is considered vaxxed is hiding cases.

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Sasha's avatar

Same

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Greg's avatar

Same here. We just do a nasal rinse after being in public.

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Jenny Simon's avatar

I have been using xlear nasal spray before I go out and sucking on xylitol lozenges as well. Mouthwash when get home. I do sometimes neti pot also. Food grade hydrogen peroxide

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Greg's avatar

My doc only recommends saline in the netti pot otherwise microbiome in one's sinuses might be harmed.

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