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cmpalmer75's avatar

Innate immunity.

Pre-existing immunity.

General state of health.

Hydration.

General state of GI health.

Genetics.

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Marius's avatar

How about Occam's razor: there's no virus to begin with, disease is caused by environmental factors (toxicity, etc)

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cmpalmer75's avatar

There are contagious agents, and there are co-factors.

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Marius's avatar

Please, show me the contagion experiment.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

It's called life. I'm sure you know that challenge experiments in human beings are considered unethical. No doubt environmental toxins can make you sick. No doubt they can make you more vulnerable to infection.

Really not interested in this debate, Marius.

And Occam's razor does not apply. There is nothing simple about the human immune system.

contagion

kən-tā′jən

noun

Disease transmission by direct or indirect contact.

A disease that is or may be transmitted by direct or indirect contact; a contagious disease.

The direct cause, such as a bacterium or virus, of a communicable disease.

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Marius's avatar

Back then, when human experimentation was not forbidden, people did experiments to see if the Spanish flu is contagious. And they failed miserably.

And other experiments done later, for the regular flu, also failed miserably.

So there's that..

https://viroliegy.com/2021/10/03/the-infectious-myth-busted-part-1-the-rosenau-spanish-flu-experiments-1918/

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"I'm sure you know that challenge experiments in human beings are considered unethical."

Please explain why is it ethical to inject billions of people with a new technology never tested in humans, but why we couldn't test a virus with 99.99x% survival rate..

How do you call these injections, if not "human experimentation"?!

Every single vaccine out there is tested in humans. First, in small batches, and then, in larger batches. How's that any different than other human experiments? Why are vaccine makers allow to experiment on humans, but people in labs, also trying to save lives, are not allowed?

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